1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. A very happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Bucky DJ back with you, moved the sticks. Buck? How 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: you doing man, man, I'm good man. Look. Thanksgivings always 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: a great time of reflection. So I'm gonna say, look, 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the gratitude that I have not only for our relationship 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: on and off the pod, but for everyone around us 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: that really helps the MTST and come together, like, really 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: appreciate all the efforts that everyone does. So at the 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: time when everyone is kind of taking time to reflect 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: and appreciate, I want everyone to know we really appreciate you. 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Listener to all the people on the other side. No, 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: that's a great call, man. Uh. First of all, very 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: very thankful for you Buck, chance to to do these 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: pods together, to kind of um engage our football curiosity 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: together over all these years, what we've been able to 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: do and to see it all growing. Um to see 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: the TV show which is doing great, Thanks to all 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: you guys for for watching that on Monday days. That's 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: been a blast. And the Thursday nights that we've been 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: doing with Amazon. It's just fun to watch what this started, 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: this little podcast has kind of grown. Um and and 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: very thankful for you. Very thankful for the bill and 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: all the folks behind the scenes that kind of make 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 1: this whole thing go. Um. We've got a great team, 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Ted and Climbing, Um, Tanton, everybody that's involved on the 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: on the TV show. So thankful for everybody for all 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: that they do. For is David Singer and the best 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: booker in the business. UM forgetting this great guest like 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: we had just the other day with Luke Kikley. UM. 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: So again, very thankful for all those folks, and and 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: really thankful for you the listeners who have who have 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: helped this thing grow and been a big part of 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: the ride. Thank you guys so much for for being 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: with us and joining us. I'm not gonna be a 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: long pod today. I want to talk a little bit 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: about some of these Thanksgiving games that we've been coming up. 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: But I had a topic I want to hit you 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: up on, Buck, because I was thinking about this the 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: other day and talking to a coach, and we're getting 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: ready to finish up the regular season for college football, which, 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: by the way, I was told you could probably see 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: the first coaching hire of this of all these jobs, 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, could be like Sunday as a lot of 45 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: these seasons come to an end. We've got conference championship 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: games coming up after that. But the chances are, you know, 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: one of these big jobs gonna hire somebody that's not 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: playing in that game. So you could see that kind 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: of start. Once those dominos start falling, now you're gonna 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: start to see a lot of movement here in college football. 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: But I was talking with his coach and he brought 52 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: up a great point. We were talking about a player 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: of his that may or may not come out, you know, 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: not like a lock first rounder. You and all like, 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to be a first rounder, but probably 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: a mid round pick he comes out, which we've seen 57 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: a lot of those over the last couple of years. 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Hundred plus you know, entrance, early entrance. And he said, 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I think we're gonna keep. I think 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna get him to stay. And I said, how 61 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: do you do. They's like, well, with n I L 62 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: he's gonna make a lot of money. Like he's he's 63 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: a popular player in our college town, in our market. 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna make a good sum of money. And uh 65 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: versus the uncertainty of where he would get picked, and 66 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: all that wine not stay in college. It's not like 67 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, it used to be like, you know, being 68 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: a fourth fifth round pick and get what you can 69 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: get better than making no money. These guys might have 70 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: a chance in some of these situations to make more 71 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: money in college next year than they what is rookies. No, 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: that's an interesting deal because the n I L deal 73 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: is still kind of one of those things where everyone's 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to navigate it. Um. I 75 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: think that is that is a great situation. But I 76 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard about what Old miss has 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: been able to do with the academic bonuses for their 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: teams where they able to pay guys out. I didn't. 79 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't know for academic achievement and the base level 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: academic achievement, maybe academic eligibility, so to be able to 81 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: get like a handful of ones and stuff like that 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: for just making sure you're eligible to go. Yeah, I 83 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be creative ways for teams to kind 84 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: of entice guys to stick around, especially if they have 85 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: kind of like the uncertain draft status. Yeah, I think 86 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: that's the way of the world. I think you kind 87 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: of have to be able to understand what it is. 88 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: And though it's going to continue to further divide to 89 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: have from the have nots, but that's just kind of 90 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the way it is in college football, and so those 91 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: coaches and programs that are very creative and what they're 92 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: able to do, I might have the advantages. And so 93 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: it should it should it should be good. It should 94 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: be it should be a great opportunity. It's going to 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: change the topic, you know, because how many times have 96 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: you heard and I think we both have said the 97 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: same thing about a player, whether he should come out 98 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: or not, even he's not a first round pick, second 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: round pick. But you know, hey, what you know, go 100 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 1: get paid, young man. Don't give away your services for free. Well, 101 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: you can stay where you are and get paid. In 102 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: some cases you might be making more there in a 103 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: cost certainty to know what money you're gonna make versus 104 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a crapshoot of you know, whether 105 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna get drafted, maybe you're an undrafted free agent. 106 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: Do it make the team? Do you not make the team? 107 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: Like the old burden the hand here, but buck, Yeah, 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: I think that is something too and I think everyone 109 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: has to know where you kind of fit in the 110 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: pecking order when it comes to that stuff like where 111 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: am I gonna be? Do I get good advice? Okay, 112 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: well I could be a mid round pick or later, 113 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: or I could potentially work my way up, and I 114 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: think there's some great examples of later. And look, we 115 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: don't know how this thing is going to turn out 116 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: for a guy like Kenny Pickett, but he's a guy 117 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: who's been around for a long time who certainly has 118 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: benefited from the extra time and experience, and he's gonna 119 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: parlay that into um, potentially a high pick. And there 120 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: are others that also would do so. So I think 121 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity for those if you're uncertain where 122 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: you're going to go, one stick around of college and 123 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: get a degree, to continue to develop on your game 124 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: and just kind of see where it plays out in 125 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, I know, it's uh, that's interesting. I'm 126 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: curious to see kind of now that we have a 127 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: full off season of this with the n I l 128 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: like how it impacts not only guys declaring for the draft, 129 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: but maybe some of the transfer stuff. I know there 130 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: was some fears kind of early on of the you know, 131 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of the bigger schools poaching a lot of these 132 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: smaller school players to come up and say, hey, hey, hey, 133 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: thanks for developing them. We'll take him that. Yeah, yeah, 134 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: we we we would hear from here, We'll take it 135 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: from here. I don't know, I don't know what we're 136 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna see. But um, we touched on this a little 137 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: bit previously. I don't though we've totally fleshed it out. 138 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: But um, I know there was some talk with these 139 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: college jobs. Man, with the early signing period. You you 140 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: gotta get your coach, you gotta get him right now, 141 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: get him in and try and salvage this recruiting class 142 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: because I think the early sign dates like the early 143 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: early December, right, So, but but with the portal, with 144 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, who cares you gonna take all the 145 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: high school kids you want? M Cherry picked the best 146 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: college kids. Get him coming here, like Michigan State just did. Well. 147 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Here's the thing to DJ like, Um, if you you 148 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: talk around the college landscape and high school landscape, Yeah, 149 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the opportunities are dwindling for high school guys because guys 150 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: want certainty, They want like now rather than wait on 151 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: the seventeen year old kid that could be a possible 152 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: Let me go see what some of these didn't see 153 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: some of these first and second, you guys look like 154 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: and Adam in the other thing that has also changed, 155 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: um has been when you lose the recruiting battle now 156 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: where it used to be bitter and I can I 157 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: believe you're going there that you keep that relationship. Yeah, hey, 158 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: door is always open. It make sure you keep my number. Yeah, 159 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Like I think I always think about like if you're 160 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: if you're one of the southern schools, like either in 161 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: the in the SEC or you're in the Pac twelve 162 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of in good weather areas and be like, no, hey, 163 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: you go to the Midwest, we we should pack of cold. 164 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: It gets a little cold there. But if it's uh, hey, 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: if you ever, if you're ever not happy you missed 166 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: the sun and it's so much there. But if you 167 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: missed that, come on back send the occasional postcard. I 168 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: mean seriously, as a high school coach, and I'm sure 169 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: the long as you do this you will encounter this, 170 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: but I would imagine that that you kind of are 171 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: the go between, right, like if you have a player 172 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: that left your school, and went off to to you know, 173 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: playing in college somewhere and the team that may be 174 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: lost in recruiting. Maybe just hey, coach Brooks, Uh, how's 175 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy doing. Jimmy? Yeah, how'd you mean homesick at all? 176 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy homesick? So look, there has to be a go 177 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: between because I do wanted with a lot of these 178 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: portal decisions that we're seeing, how are they having these conversations, 179 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of you know, maybe maybe I 180 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: should leave. Maybe they're better opportunities out there for me 181 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: if I leave in the middle of the year, like 182 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: a Michael Pittman um at Oregon. We're seeing more of 183 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: these guys in the middle of the year. You explained 184 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: this one to me that this is the one thing, 185 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Like if I am in a transfer and I think 186 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: he I think this was announced maybe before they got 187 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: their doors blown off by Utah, But like if I 188 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: at that point in time, I think they had a 189 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: chance to get into the playoff, Like may am I 190 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: not like a school and I not know I'm gonna leave, 191 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna probably see that thing through the playoff 192 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: before I make that move. Well, maybe it's the old thing. 193 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the old time for me. But finish what 194 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: you start. The ring? That that was the point of 195 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Can I get? Can I get the ring? The bowl sweats? 196 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Can I get? Can I get all the swag? All 197 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: the stuff that's coming my way, the watches and all 198 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: that it comes from playing in the best bowl gift? 199 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: What was the best bowl gift you got? Uh? Peace Ball? 200 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: We gotta watch in a ring? Uh Mississippi State Uh 201 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. That was our first bowl game too that 202 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: we've been to in a long time. So yeah, that 203 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: that that was. That was a nice one. But now 204 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: they get all the different stuff. I just can't understand, 205 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: like why guys. I can understand why why guys would 206 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: leave before the end of the year, Like, well, the 207 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: only thing I can think of is if you want 208 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: to transfer it semester and get there for spring ball, 209 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: maybe it gives you a chance to get that all accomplished. 210 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then with the rid shirt rules and 211 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: stuff like that, I know there's something to that, but 212 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like and I know it has changed 213 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the way that we view transfers at the NFL level 214 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: and the way that we because you remember how we 215 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: used to talk about transfers like, uh, got transferred. I 216 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you compete battle all that stuff is done, 217 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: But there would be a part of me that would 218 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: be like, man, you can leave in the middle of 219 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: the year on your team, like just that that that 220 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: still would kind of hang out. But it's the way 221 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: of the world. It's a different thing. I mean, it's 222 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: it's completely different. These bowl games are gonna look different 223 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: with all the optouts, guys not gonna play. It's gonna 224 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: be like, it's gonna be like a spring game scrimmage. 225 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: That's kind of what we've lobbied for too, was like. 226 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: And now now that they changed the red shirt rule, 227 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: hopefully you kind of saved one of those four games 228 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: for those you know, you know, for those red shirts, 229 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: so that they can just roll out there in the 230 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: in the bowl game. Roll out in the bowl game. 231 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Let's have a little scrimmage. See what it looks like. 232 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: Get it on tape. Did I tell you what we 233 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: got for going to the playoffs? Uh? Three years when 234 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: I was at up State one Double A playoffs, but 235 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: we got we got one T shirt. I got one 236 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: T shirt and three years Yeah, with a real stretched 237 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: out neckative it didn't fit very good. Well, you know 238 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: the standards so high there that state like y'all kind 239 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: of like the noted y'all, the Notre Dame of you. 240 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, when the national championship you don't get anything 241 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of amazing like it, and Notre Dame don't 242 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: get anything. Listen, went to national title, you got to 243 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: do all those shugar bowls and all that. No ring, 244 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: just I think they'd give a watch. You can get 245 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: a watch. So I don't know this data. Why don't 246 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: they gets Why don't they get anything? You know to 247 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: day because we went national titles, so they don't. Don't 248 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: they don't take bull gifts. That's crazy. It's always but 249 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: you don't get a ring. You don't only get away 250 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: a national tit they're not a conference. Yeah, but you 251 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: get a bull ring regardless. Do with a bull ring? 252 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: Come on, buck DJ See that's that app state entitlement thing. No, yeah, 253 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: you get a ring for everything. Like the Colts. You're 254 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: hanging up that finalist banner up in the up in 255 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the arena. I'll take my gate a ball in my 256 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: peach bowl ring and I'll just pull it out at it. 257 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Who's look at it? But that's yeah, they give out everything. 258 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: That's part of the deal. That's hilarious. I got I gotta, 259 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: I got a Southern Conference championship ring. So that's uh okay, 260 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: get you get to the championship. No idea where that 261 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: thing is, Uh, no clue. I think I gave it 262 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: to my dad for Father's Day one year. Never saw 263 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: it again. You're the guy that doesn't You don't hang 264 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: any manners for anything, like you're so so so right 265 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: now because f states in the sunbell right do they 266 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: have Do they have a North Division South Division? Or 267 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: how did they know we want we want? Yeah, it's 268 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: two divisions. We wanted the division. Think what like the 269 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: fifth out of six years? We just is there is 270 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: there a banner at designation anywhere in the stadium to 271 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: say that we won that we've won five or whatever 272 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: four or five championships that we've we've never lost the 273 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: championship game. So okay. So so there wouldn't be like 274 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: a runner. If we'll find out they got they got Georgia, 275 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: they'll beat Georgia Southern, beat the breaks off Georgia Southern 276 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: this weekend, and then we'll turn around and we have 277 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: to Avenge a loss against a really good Louisiana team. 278 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: But Napier's got and he's like he might be you know, 279 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: he might have like he might have the car all 280 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: packed up to go to Baton Rouge. So maybe it's 281 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: a little distracted there. We can hammer them and uh 282 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: and then get our eleven wins and go one another 283 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: bowl game. Okay, I gotta I gotta ask you this 284 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: because like, look, it's it's the Thanksgiving. We can kind 285 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: of go wherever. Of the jobs that are out there, 286 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: like I don't want to disrespecting, but the big jobs 287 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: right Florida, USC, Virginia Tech. If you had your druthers, 288 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: which is the job that you're like, oh, that's no brand, 289 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I gotta take them. Well, I mean mine would be 290 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: different because I think it would be like where I'm 291 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: living would matter, you know, I think all things considered, 292 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: I would and I was calling me Homer, I live 293 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: by I would say USC, just because I can own 294 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: that conference. I can live in Manhattan Beach and and 295 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: we'll be good and recruiting what I would recruiting doesn't 296 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: appeal to me, but it would be a lot easier 297 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: to recruit there. Then it would it the others. But 298 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: if you're saying, like if I'm just a pure football 299 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: guy and I want to go win a national championship 300 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: and apologize to my family, um, then it would be 301 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: L s U. Because L s U over Florida. I'll 302 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: go L s U over Florida. See, and I would 303 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: go Florida over L s U. Only intern will. Now 304 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say I don't have the alabnefit, but 305 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: now I got to Georgia. Fact, I got the cocktail 306 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: because Georgia, Georgia Saban's getting older. Buck Man, that's not 307 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: gonna be forever. Jimbo's over then at an M. Yeah, 308 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: I got I got Lane for his longest you know, 309 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: Lane is gonna be a hurricane by the time this 310 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: podcast coming out. Maybe. So here's the thing, and here's 311 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: what I would I would say, like just the advice, 312 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: because you tweeted this out and I kind of I 313 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: saw your tweet after I already tweeted something. Here's what 314 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: I would say to anyone who takes the s C job. Yeah, 315 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to leave the States. No, 316 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: you don't need to leave this city, stay in this 317 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you need to leave 318 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: the stay and I would use a model that has 319 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: been very successful back in the day University of Miami. 320 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: I would use my experience with coach Brown did it 321 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I would try and throw a fence 322 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: around Southern California and I would make it a situation 323 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: where hey, man, Bryce Young and c. J. Stroud, they 324 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: cannot leave the state and go play elsewhere. Not look 325 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: and I know USC signed quarterbacks in those classes that 326 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: were held as whatever, but man, the best quarterbacks in 327 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Southern California, they have to play at SC. Like that 328 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: has to be almost a mandate that you have to 329 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: do that. And I don't know how you get those 330 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: guys in there, but it has to be a deal 331 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: where you can't let the best talent from Southern California 332 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: leave and not play at USC. And that has to 333 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: be the number one thing when I think about what 334 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: they're doing and what happens with that job. Talent has 335 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: to be there, and I think you have to have 336 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: the right coach because it can also be a situation 337 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: where years upon years upon years, I'm not seeing SC 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: offensive or defensive lineman taken in the first two rounds. 339 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Unacceptable it can't happen. It just can't happen. And so 340 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: that's it. That's my uh fight, Like, yeah, that has 341 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: to be that has to be a deal. Because I 342 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: said city, I guess I should have said county because 343 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: you gotta go to Orange County. But I mean, you 344 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: just mean it's all southern California, that it's all the same, 345 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: like it can't be a situation wastion like that. And 346 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: then the same thing for Florida. They talk about Georgia 347 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: and those things. There's too much talent in just those areas. Yeah, 348 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have to go far to get players to 349 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: play when you're a Gator. Yeah, you know, You've got 350 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: me thinking on this L s U Florida thing. Maybe 351 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: I am wrong on that. Maybe Florida is better, right. 352 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: I just think of L s U. And there's just 353 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: there's like like a toughness that that L s U. 354 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: I think of L s U and I kind of 355 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: think of more of just like it's just more football Florida. 356 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: I know they've won national championships with Tebow, but I 357 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: just think of I think of Florida a little bit 358 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: more finesse. I think of L s U a little 359 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: gritty or a little tougher, so the thando clouds. And 360 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing with Florida is and I 361 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: think it's challenging. I would say it's very similar to 362 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: like you like Indiana basketball or whatever. It's not only winning, 363 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: but it's how you win. So Florida has been so 364 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: defined by the Steve Spurrier era where they won, but 365 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: it was fun and gun. It was thrown around the yard, 366 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: run up to school plays, like all of that other stuff. 367 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: I think with L s U and L s U 368 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: is one, there's been a grittiness to their teams. Even 369 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: with Joe Burr likes as much as they live around, 370 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: the defense had a level of grit and just that 371 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: you kind of like I think in Florida you're always 372 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: balancing that part of it. You know, like, hey, we 373 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: want you to win because they mother wanted a high level, 374 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: but you kind of want you to win also while 375 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: doing it a certain way like you cee l A basketball, 376 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: Like when you see l A basketball, they want they 377 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: had been howling, but no one liked they were playing 378 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Biggie so much defense, Like what are we doing so 379 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: much defense? Like we get shuts up? I think there's 380 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: some of that that may hang around the Florida program 381 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: and so you just have to you have to do it. 382 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: But man, look it is everything, and these these because 383 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: they're more openings than elite level coaches. When you take 384 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: one of these jobs, you better fit your personality, how 385 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: you want to get down and what you see because 386 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: of not Man, nothing is worse than like seeing it 387 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: ill fitting situation because it just it just won't work 388 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: out and you know it's short term, no doubt. Um. 389 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: All right, well let's take a quick break then we'll 390 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: come back and talk about these Thanksgiving Day games. All right, 391 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: buck Um, I mean we're not gonna go in detail 392 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: on all these games here. Well, you're not excited coming 393 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: off I think they've all lost last week, which is 394 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: crazy to think You've got six teams playing on Thanksgiving, 395 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: all of them coming off of a loss. Bears at Lions. 396 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: Do you think the Lions get one here? Do they 397 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: get one? Oh? This is a look, I know this. 398 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: The Lions always bring their a game on Thanksgiving. I 399 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Maybe it's something about the 400 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: turkey or whatever. The early start, the lines are gonna 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: play and the Lions get to play the Bears with 402 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback you used to be to start in 403 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I think it's a nice situation for him. 404 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: They have been playing hard. They haven't been playing great, 405 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: but they've been playing hard. They've been running to football. Um. 406 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on who starts 407 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback. If Jerry Golf starts the quarterback, I give 408 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: the Lions a chance. A Tim Bull starts, I don't. 409 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they can. I don't think they can 410 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: win with him. I just don't think you're not buying No. 411 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Like I said this, I don't 412 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: look no disrespect to him. I don't know DJ. He 413 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of experience at any level. Like 414 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he was at Yukon for three years. He's 415 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: at Eastern Kentucky Use Ohio Valley Conference passing leader during 416 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: his last time. Then he's kind of been in the 417 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: league for I think this is his fourth year in 418 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: the league. I don't know. It wasn't a great start 419 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: his first time out so one yards, but maybe he 420 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: gets it right the second time if he has to start. 421 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: But if they have Jerry Garf, I think they have 422 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: a chance. So, if I'm to be understood here, if 423 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: you're to be understood, the three year total of one 424 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: touchdown in thirteen interceptions at Connecticut does not inspire a 425 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: lot of confidence, is that what you're saying? Not very confident? 426 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Like DJ, I hate to say this because we live 427 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: in the personnel evaluation business. When I saw him, was like, 428 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: who's Tim Boyd? I've heard? And then I had to 429 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: dig deep into the files and I was like, oh wow, 430 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know of another quarterback outside of Matt Castle 431 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: who might have entered the league. What year? What year 432 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: did he come in? Sixteen? Yeah? Not as decorated. No, 433 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: sorry sorry, he was two thousand. Uh let's see two 434 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen was undrafted. I'm gonna look in the notes 435 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: because this is I'm pretty sure I got notes on him. 436 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Let me look this up here live live. Look, this 437 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: is exciting podcasting right here. Well, look I can I 438 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: can give you the details. I know he's sick threes 439 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: two and thirty five pounds. Hold on, um, I told 440 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: you too. For like twenty two hundred or twenty eight 441 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards in eastern Kentucky had eleven touchdowns and thirteen 442 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: interceptions during that year. He lit it up for the 443 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in the preseason that earned him a 444 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: couple of spots two thousand eighteen or two thousand nineteen. Yeah, see, 445 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: I know I've got it. I know because I remember 446 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: you don't forget a stat line like that super super 447 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: super sleeper right there? Um, Tim Boyle, what's traits and 448 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: arm two thousand eighteen eighteen? Whatnot? I'm not seeing it here? 449 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: I must. We're popping the build on because the bill 450 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: is our homework ahead. Bill. Can you pop on? Please? 451 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Can you pop on? Give us a little scouting report 452 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: on Tim Board from a time with the Packers, Like 453 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: what do you remember seeing Tim Board from his preseason 454 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: work with the Backers. He actually didn't start off as good, 455 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: but you know when he uh, they had him instead 456 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: of Jordan Love, and he looked pretty good. He was 457 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: actually the second string quarterback and Jordan was the third. 458 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: He played in the preseason. Uh, I don't think he's 459 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: really played in this season though, he's maybe throw throw 460 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: like four passes in the season. Mm hmm. I feel 461 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: about feel about him when you're watching those preseason games. 462 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: You look at in the preseason as as he got 463 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: more comfortable in the system. So if he plays on 464 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day, are you willing to put your paycheck on 465 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: how well he performs? I think he might upset the Bears. 466 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. The Bears disrespect is so 467 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: real from a package man. Okay, you Papa, you can 468 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: go away, all right? Yeah? I know, I know he 469 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: was an All Star game. Honestly, it was like the 470 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: East West or something, because I definitely remember talking about that. That. Yeah, 471 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I think I think that's an amazing stat line is 472 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: amazing thing. But dj I think what it speaks to 473 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: we saw this week with all the backup quarterbacks. We 474 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: saw Tyler Huntley start and get a win. Who was 475 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: undrafted player. I mean, we look, we always talked about 476 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: like quarterbacks and those things, But to me, it's hard 477 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: enough to find starters. Yeah, let alone find young developmental 478 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: guys that you can kind of work with and build around. Jeez. Yeah, 479 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: I must say I'm taking the Bears, um, so I'll 480 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: go Bears on that one. Raiders Cowboys. Raiders are struggling 481 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys coming off kind of an ugly game. Uh noah, 482 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper, uh ceedee lamb is probably TVD game time decision, 483 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: Michael Gell. But normally when the Cowboys play a stinker 484 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: like that that kind of come up and play well, 485 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: I would lean more towards the Cowboys and de win 486 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: over the Raiders. Um. I just don't know where the 487 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: Raiders government. Man, they've had I feel like they played 488 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: three seasons in one with all of the stuff that. 489 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: I just think it's I think at some point the 490 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: mental fatigue for having to deal with all the emotional 491 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: stuff that they've had too kind of overcome kind of 492 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: gets to him at the end. I think the Raiders 493 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: pass rush can give the Cowboys some trouble. But um, 494 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think I'll stick with the Cowboys 495 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: on that one. Bill Saints gotlie. The Bills have got 496 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: to figure that their stuff out. They they've got to 497 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: be more physical, man. You gotta find some type of 498 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: a run game and be more physical. I am really 499 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: surprised at a Sharman team relies on the quarterback and 500 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: the lack of running game as much as they do. 501 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: And I understand when you have a great player, the 502 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: theories they put it in his hands, let him control it. Man, 503 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: they have to get a ball to the running backs 504 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: at some point they have to have a semblance of 505 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: a ground attack to kind of balance it out and 506 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: do those things. How did you guys do that? How 507 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: do you when you're in Buffalo the k gun and 508 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: you've got obviously a prolific passing team, you got Thurman Thomas. 509 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: But how how did they maintain their physicality by being 510 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: a team that could chuck it? Uh, you know, it's tough. 511 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the it's really the competented players that 512 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: you have. Defensively, you had some guys Bruce Smith and 513 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: Darryl Talley, Yeah, Henry Jones, who's a young player. Those 514 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: guys could kind of play. They were good up front. 515 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: They're always playing with the least so the capass rush um. 516 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, like that's the thing. When you throw 517 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: it around the yard like that, it is hard to 518 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: retain like that, that physicality, and when you would play 519 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: those teams that were the most physical teams, if you 520 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: can't jump out on top of it, it becomes a 521 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: slug fest, like they can't lean onto you. But it's 522 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: one of those perceptions that you can kind of deal with. Yeah, 523 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: I mean, they're kind of in the middle of the 524 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: pack eighteen yards a game, but you kind of factor 525 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen into that as well. Um, but it's just 526 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a there's a toughness component that's 527 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: kind of missing with this team. Um, and I'm Jags 528 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: game and the Colts games. I'm surprised because they are 529 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: such a team of blue collar guys, Like I feel 530 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: like this team embodies the coach. I feel like there's 531 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: unison from top to bottom, the synergy and the connectivity 532 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: between the coach, Sean McDermott, how he is, who he is, 533 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: and how this team is constructed and built. I'm just 534 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: surprised that they haven't been as physical. It's not enough. 535 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not too late for them to turn 536 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: it around, but they certainly are not like the rough 537 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: and rugged team that you would think giving his defensive 538 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: background and kind of how he's come up. Um, all right, 539 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: he's uh again not the sexiest of lineup of games here, Saints, 540 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: you know that they're gonna be in the game. We 541 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: know that they're just gonna hang around and see what 542 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: happens at home, try and see if they can get 543 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: after up front. Marcus Davenport by the way, he's going 544 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: to get paid. That's my one Saints littlenugget for you there. 545 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: I think he's a free agent after this year. Healthy 546 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: the light comes on and um, I do want I 547 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: thought they picked up his fifth year option. Maybe not, 548 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: I thought they did, But either way, he is going 549 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: to get paid because he's finally playing, um like the 550 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: guy many expected when he was coming from ut s A. Well, 551 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: if they did, then he's gonna be extension worthy here 552 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: because it's hard to find guys that are six ft 553 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: six two or seventy pounds that can rush like that. 554 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: He's kind of picked up. He speaking of Saints. What 555 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: is the taste him? He'll deal? Like what what is that? 556 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Like the four year extension that can fluctu away from 557 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: forty million up to nine million depending on what position 558 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: he plays. Um, he's thirty one years old, like this year, 559 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: I think he only has like thirty two touches. Like, 560 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: what is the fascination right now that the Saints have 561 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: over Tassom? He'll particularly when he's not playing quarterback? You 562 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: know what this is? Like? This is like somebody that remember, 563 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: like in high school, somebody would break up with their 564 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: girlfriend and be like I don't want data anymore, but 565 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: you can't dat her. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 566 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: use him offensively, but no, no, no, no, you're not 567 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: allowed to. You can't like that's crazy at that number. 568 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Twenty two million guaranteed at that number is crazy. And 569 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: so if you're not utilizing them. The best thing that 570 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: Tassom Hill did was he was he's a Swiss Army 571 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: knife and they're not even using them at that And 572 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: from a person nail standpoint, he's thirty one years of 573 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: age and if we're going to utilize him as a 574 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: utility player, he needs to be utilized as a utility 575 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: to play and I'm gonna get everything out of him. 576 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is playing fifty plus snaps again, h back 577 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: full back? Why receiver? He has to be on the field, 578 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: because how do you justify that cap number if he's 579 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: not on the field. That's to me just I think 580 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: it's a positive note to end this podcast. Thanksgiving podcasts 581 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: for everybody there. Uh, but Bucky's thankfully you don't have 582 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: to scratch that check, you know, very thankful, because I 583 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: would I justify I don't know how it justified by 584 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: the way we will not be doing any of these 585 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: Thursday games with our Twitch and Amazon broadcast, so that'll 586 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: be back next week. So uh, just get your turkey, 587 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: enjoy the games like we will, um, and then we'll 588 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: catch you guys back the following Thursday. So man, I 589 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: am thankful for all of you again. Thank you guys 590 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: so much for for letting us do this for a living. 591 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: It SHARE's a lot of fun. Buck anyone to add 592 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, notice it man, once again, 593 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: just to gratitude, Thanks so much everybody for tuning in 594 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: for listen. It's been a great ride. We look forward 595 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: to doing more and more more cool stuff going forward. 596 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: And you WoT a holiday. There you go, Happy Thanksgiving everybody. 597 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here, I move the sticks.