1 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Podcast starts now. Welcome y'all, it's Lab. Hey. 2 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: I just want to say welcome to Stradio Lab. Wow. George, No, 3 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: it was southern. It was taste. No, it was tasteful. 4 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: It was southern. I don't know what was that. No, 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: it was southern. You were just being sort of a 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: southern lady. George. Don't be embarrassed. You are such You 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: hide your your beautiful accent work behind this intellectual facade. 8 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: And I know the truth is that you are sort 9 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: of that impressions master. You can do regions, you can 10 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: do celebs, you can you can do anything you put 11 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: your mind to, and you know this world tries to 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: tell you don't do that. It's true. No, I think 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: you're hitting the nail on the head, which is that 14 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: my entire life, going to college, getting a job, going 15 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: to grad school even correct, it has all been. In fact, Uh, 16 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: this really desperate attempt to escape the fact that at 17 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: my core I'm an impressions artist. You try to sort 18 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: of get these degrees and this education as an armor 19 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: to protect you from who you really are, which of 20 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: course is an impressionist potentially character actor. And it's time 21 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: you let that go. Yeah once again, it's through um 22 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm sorry. I'm trying to remember what our 23 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: friend Julie Claire used to do a Hannah Gatsby impression. 24 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do it now. Cost No, see, I 25 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: can't do it. No, you've got this trauma. No, I see, 26 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: I can't do it. Okay, never mind, Maybe you should 27 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: go back to school again. Everyone has one accent that 28 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: they can do. I mean, it's like, can I even 29 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: do a share impression? Snap out of it? There you go. 30 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I find that I am. I think 31 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm definitely worse had accents than you know. I think 32 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: sometimes they that's the thing, Sometimes they come to me 33 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: naturally and they can actually be good. I have never 34 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: in my life been able to do an accent on 35 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: commit like knowing like I'm about to do an accent. 36 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: When someone asks me to do an accent, I suddenly can't, 37 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Like I can name like like like even like a 38 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: basic Southern I have you know, you know, I lived 39 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: in the South. This is not a foreign accent to me. 40 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: It's it should be very natural. And yet if someone's like, 41 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: well just do it, it's like, well, the only accent 42 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: I really can do is Nick Kroll as Liz and 43 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: publicity and and and you know that's been recorded on 44 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: this podcasts. Don't really need to get back into that. Okay, fine, 45 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: um wait wait, no, he did it anyway. I told him, Wait, 46 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: did you hear that? What? I kind of sounded like Seinfeld? Okay, 47 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm honestly kind of blindsided by that. As No, I 48 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: totally sounded like Seinfeld. I was like, did I sound 49 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: like I had the cadence? I sounded like Seinfeld. I 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: was like, you did it anyway? Oh wow, good job 51 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: I sounded and then you could do it again too, 52 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: And then I recalled it even on An't you know what, George? 53 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: We actually we hinted at this last episode. Um, but 54 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: we haven't really gotten into it. We're watching Seinfeld. That's right, 55 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you don't milk voice. Um, we are watching Seinfeld. I 56 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: specifically watched maybe like episodes in a row, but then 57 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: never returned to it. It was because I was kind 58 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: of running errands and folding laundry. But then you've been 59 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: doing a much deeper dive into it. Yeah, I'm on 60 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: season three currently. Wow. Yeah, I've been going going, going interesting. Well, 61 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I just started Vanenel. Oh, you know, in many ways, 62 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: that's the Seinfeld of our time, Seinfeld of Spain. So 63 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: what is so far the most the funniest like storyline 64 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: that was unexpected because you because it was like to me, 65 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the more interesting arc that I feel like no one 66 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: talks about is George's raging bisexuality. He's of course, this 67 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: is what you're gravitating towards you. No, I mean, look, 68 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not so hacked that like it's funny 69 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: to me to like talk about how George is hot. Like, no, obviously, 70 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I think George is hot, this is a given. He's 71 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: I've always said Costanza is the hottest Seinfeld. And I've 72 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: said to the tune of blue is the warmest color, 73 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Costan just the hottest Seinfeld. Um, I really, obviously I 74 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: believe that he's one. One thing that's extremely hot about 75 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: him is how pent up horny he is. That is 76 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: one of the hotter things in life. Two, what's most 77 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: interesting about him, This guy's got to be bisexual. He's 78 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: constantly being so afraid because he's maybe attracted to men. 79 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: That's like his whole deal, right, But it's like kind 80 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: of the backbone of all humor in the nineties and 81 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: two thousand's no, because Jerry Seinfeld is like, why are 82 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: you like that? I'm sorry I didn't nail it. Um. 83 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: But he's sort of like, you know, like it's actually 84 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: not weird, like you're allowed to you can be gay 85 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: if you want. And he's like, I'm not. I'm simply not. 86 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: And it's sort of like not the background, it's like 87 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: George's whole deal, Like it's George's deal, not Seinfeld, the 88 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: show's deal. Do you think George has bad luck with women? 89 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: And there is thus victim blaming himself and it's like, 90 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: is the reason I have bad luck with women because 91 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm gay? Wow? That's very um like what a religious 92 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: person thinks gay people are. Um, yeah, well, finding that 93 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, what it's time to repent? What do 94 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: you mean? I mean that, now that we've done fifty episodes, 95 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: it's time to drop the facade and come out as 96 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: religious and come out as both religious and straight. We 97 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: are both success stories. We both tried really hard, and 98 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: we're out the other side. We are out on the 99 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: other side. Um, yeah, this is our I mean. Sindeld 100 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: was part of the conversion therapy and exactly in fact, 101 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: this entire podcast. It's like we obviously we were too 102 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: we didn't want to be too earnest. But the reason 103 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: why we are so interested in straight culture is because 104 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: we've been trying to convert. Yeah, and um, obviously it 105 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: worked great. And this is our first episode, you know, 106 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: not as two gay guys sort of discussing straight culture, 107 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: but as two straight guys, um, living within straight culture 108 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: and fully understanding, um, all of its nuances and beauties. Yeah, 109 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: So like with that kind of in the back of 110 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: our minds, Like I just feel like what's really cool 111 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: about this podcast is that we can just be ourselves totally. 112 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Like I've always felt like podcasting is like kind of 113 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: one of the most like awesome ways to sort of 114 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: like talk, and so this is like one of those ways. 115 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: I just think, like for us, it's like we've been 116 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: on the other side, like we get it, and like, 117 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, we are kind of coming at it from 118 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: like a perspective that a lot of people don't have. 119 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: And I really think that, like it's definitely been like 120 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: interesting to me and like honestly pretty bomb to like 121 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: meet people that are like different than I am, or 122 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: even people that like have different lifestyles. Honestly, thank you 123 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: so much for saying that, like like, look, we've been gay, 124 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: like we get it, like we understand like what's over there, 125 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: but like that like I own that, like I'm not 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: denying that, and it's just like now I'm not gay 127 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: and that's cool too, Like it's like no judgment to 128 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: those who are Like many of our past guests I 129 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: think are gay. No, I think like gay guys are 130 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: so funny and like I think what they do, like 131 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: like don't hit on me, but like what no funny. 132 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: It's I've always said this, like all my girls gay 133 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: friends are like the funniest guys. They're so funny. Don't 134 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: touch me? Yeah, I mean definitely, like I have physically 135 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: hit them if they get too close to me. But 136 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, okay, but what you said, like 137 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: that was fucking fun funny and um and yeah, like 138 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: I sometimes say, you know, if they're there, I don't 139 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: want to be there because I don't want to be 140 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: close to them. But then I'll to think about Saturday seven. 141 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: It's really funny. Yeah, you know, I think we should actually, 142 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: um what's that called? Fuck? Um? Bringing our guest? Um? 143 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: Who is also straight. Um uh, please give it up. 144 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Give a warm welcome to Grace Kolan Schmidt. How you guys, 145 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: it's really good to be here, so Grace, Like, what's 146 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: going on with you? You know, not really much. It's 147 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: like really a weird time because I live with two girls. 148 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh do you guys make out? Like I almost wish, 149 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: but it's like for who you know out there's no 150 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: guys around, that's so fucking cool. It's like that, dude. 151 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Girls will literally be like, oh yeah, we make out. Yeah, 152 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: and we do, and we like it is really hilarious. 153 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: It is really funny to do it. It's like I 154 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: think it's like we always talk about how gay guys 155 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: are funny, but like girls will like make out and 156 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: like that's also funny. And I think, honestly, it's like 157 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: we were always having these conversations about like sexism and feminism, 158 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: and that is like the one point where I'm like, no, 159 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: women do, like it is cool for women to make 160 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: out and it's not cool for men to make out, 161 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: so girls kind of win in that way. Yeah. No, 162 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: it's so true. It's like, dude, we don't talk about 163 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: how like for a lot of things like women have 164 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: it better, you know what I mean. It's like yeah, 165 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: like like in the summer, like they get to wear 166 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: dresses and they like don't have to be hot. It's 167 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: like like dude, like I would wear a dress shirt. Well, 168 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: it's like and like yeah, like I mean, I mean 169 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: it's just like even like think about like society, like 170 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: like if we're like really being like hunter gathered, like 171 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: if like ship really goes down, like like it's gonna 172 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: be men that have to like build houses and ship 173 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: like like that's just like true, you know what I mean. 174 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: And it's like yeah, like oh, I mean, I get it, 175 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: like they want to work or whatever, but it's like 176 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: I wish I could just stay home and cook. I'm okay. 177 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: This is like kind of low key. If you really 178 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: talked to a girl, they don't want to work, Like 179 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: we literally hate working. It sucks. It sucks so bad, 180 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: and like all we do want to do is have babies. 181 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: So it's kind of funny to me when you know, 182 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: you I hear people say that they do want to work, 183 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're lying. Yeah, No, It's like it is 184 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like you know they have 185 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: to say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm 186 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: also I like, I'll say it and I will work, 187 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: but it's not what I was meant to do, and 188 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: biologically I feel that. Yeah. I mean, it's like that's 189 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. It's like we have primal needs, 190 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like for women 191 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: it's like it's making out with each other as a joke, 192 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: and like for men it's kind of like being you know, 193 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: kind of weird totally like I'm really weird. You are, 194 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: you are super weird. I noticed that first thing when 195 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: I when I came on this podcast guys, can we reconvert? 196 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Oh no? Why? Because I'm like feeling all this pressure 197 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: to like perform now, and it's like like, can I 198 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: tell you what my plan was? Yeah? Okay, I was. 199 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know how I was going to get to 200 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: from point A to point B. But what I wanted 201 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: was for the bit about how he how I was 202 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I mean I wish I could wear 203 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: a dress for that to go on, so that then 204 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: we would come full circle and I'd be like, yeah, 205 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: like of course I think about making out with men, 206 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: like yeah, obviously, Like if so, then you know what 207 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like he would be like then he 208 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: would go back to being gay. Okay, that's so smart 209 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: and c George, You're always writing and you're always thinking 210 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: and like I wish, I wish we could have given 211 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you that opportunity. Yeah, and you know I was, that's 212 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: my bad. I'm sorry. I was kind of like I 213 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: didn't see the master plan and sort of we were 214 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: driving without a map, and I was like, you know, struggling, Grace, 215 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: and thank you for seeing that, because I was like struggling, 216 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, no one's even seeing this, like 217 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: no one seeing me as I am, which is struggling. 218 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: And you know what, I was so focused on my 219 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: because in my mind, I was like, I'm the main character. 220 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: So even often, you know, Grace would say something that 221 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: was actually really funny, and instead of yes, ending, I'd 222 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: be like, let's focus on the narrative. I'm trying to 223 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: do this like really like this kind of um what's 224 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: the word, uh, balancing act of like of of going 225 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: full circle. I mean it is a full it's almost um, 226 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like many famous one person shows. 227 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: I'm thinking the Net, I'm thinking the Hulu Magic special. 228 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking what the Constitution means to me very similar 229 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: using my own personal journey as a way to comment 230 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: on things like politics and society. Uh huh huh um. Yeah, 231 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: you know I saw my role in that. I was 232 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: definitely a supportive cast member. Um. And you know, I 233 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: sort of saw myself as maybe maybe the director because 234 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I saw both of you, and you were so in 235 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: character and you but you didn't you know, you couldn't 236 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: see outside of yourselves because you were just living in 237 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: the moment in such a way that I thought, you know, 238 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: it's maybe my job to call cut before they get 239 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: lost in these characters forever. Wow. That what an interesting 240 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: way to um kind of on the one hand, compliment 241 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: us on the other hand, offend us kind on the 242 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: other hand, kind of make me feel like poop. Right, 243 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: you know where I saw myself in it my turn, 244 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: I saw myself you know if we're talking DVDs, because 245 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: we are, Yeah, I saw myself on the cover, but 246 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: only George's name is written. Oh my god, and can 247 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: we talk about that when here's what my Thank you 248 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: so much for bringing this up. Have you guys ever 249 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: seen a DVD cover when when they have the actors right, 250 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: it'll be in the in the wrong order and the 251 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: wrong names are above their heads. It's um, why do 252 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: they Why do they do that? The reason they do 253 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: that is literally because like people want to be first, 254 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: like the order is an order of importance, and people 255 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: like fight for their names to be first or whatever. 256 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: But then like a different person is in charge of 257 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: the artwork. Do they think people are such slow readers 258 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: that don't only read the first name. It's like I'm 259 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: reading actually the like cover of Cold Mountain, and I 260 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: didn't get to Reneez that Wegger and oh I actually 261 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't know she was in this because I didn't get 262 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: that far. I got to actually just the first part 263 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: of Jude Law. I read Nicole Kidman and in Jude 264 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: and then I complete my eyes rolled to the back 265 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: of my head. I didn't get to Renee. I think 266 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: as actors and performers, we need to band together and 267 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: put a stop of this, put our egos aside, and 268 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: say this would make a better DVD cover if we 269 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: just put the right names over the right heads. But 270 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: don't you think that's such a perfect encapsulation of the 271 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: just complete uh wild West of the entertainment industry. It's 272 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: like something as simple as that that has such a 273 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: clear correct way of being done. There is such a 274 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: clear correct way to make a movie cover of Cold Mountain, 275 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: and but no, it's gonna be. It's good. There are 276 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: literally like fifteen people in the room. There's a million 277 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: associate and executive producers, and all of them cannot come 278 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: to the correct decision because everyone's driven by ego. Yeah, 279 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: and it's good that we're having this conversation of all 280 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: people because we collectively have been in what thousands of 281 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: UM feature films. Yeah, roughly. I remember when I was 282 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: working on Cold Mountain, my name wasn't even on the cover, 283 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: and they kind of they actually uh minimized not minimized. 284 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: UM made my face really small and put it inside 285 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Rena's Wager's eyeball. You know, really squint. I just want 286 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: to say that if I had to pick a favorite 287 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: director to work with, it would be the Coen Brothers. Huh, 288 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, because they're just it's nice to have that 289 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: family feeling. Yeah, yeah, No. For me, I love Woody 290 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Allen and I have always said, you know, to be 291 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: in a Woody Allen film as every actor's dream. I've 292 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: always said this, Yeah, you have always said that. For me, 293 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: my dream director is, um, oh, shoot, what's his name? 294 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: The youngest Franco, Dave, Dave Franco, unless there's another one 295 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: that I don't know about. No, Dave he is. I 296 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: saw something the other day. He's having his directorial debut. 297 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to get in that. I 298 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: have to get in that. Yeah. Yeah, wow, God to 299 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: be in a Dave Franco film. Well, anyway, I was 300 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: actually joking this entire time. In my dream director is 301 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: Gretig Gerwig because I like women who cool, awesome sauce. 302 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm really a girl who you know. Now 303 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: that you've named them, I'm like, yeah, those are directors. 304 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: But if you told me write down five directors names, 305 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: I'd be in trouble. Yeah. I definitely don't have room 306 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: for that many. I've got the Spielberg Well, thank Cohen's 307 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: Cohen Cohen. Yeah, but what did they do again, I'm like, oh, no, 308 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: don't ask me this. Oh the Coen Brothers right, didn't 309 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: write Avatar? Right? Avatar? Um no, everybody stopped right here, 310 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: squid in the whale, everybody stopped right now. Where were 311 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: you when you saw Avatar for the first time? Oh, 312 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: I was. It was my brother. My mom had this 313 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: kind of master plan of making my brother and I 314 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: bombed something that we've resisted our whole lives. And he 315 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: said to me, do you want to go see the 316 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Avatar movie. He's a couple of years older than me. 317 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: I said, fuck no, I'm not a nerd who sees 318 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: movies about cartoons, Billy little me. I thought that it 319 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: was about Avatar the last An. Anyway, it did end 320 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: up having to go to kind of help my mom out, 321 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: and it was so amazing, and it was one of 322 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: the best movies I've ever seen in my life. I know, 323 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: you go, you go? Okay, Well, I was home for 324 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: I guess Christmas break. I assume it was a Christmas release, 325 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: but I was a Christmas release, So I was home 326 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: for for from college. It was my freshman year, and 327 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: I went and saw it in yes three D with 328 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: maybe even my whole family. And then I remember posting 329 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: my analysis on Facebook, which was that it was a 330 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: dumbed down version of the Iraq War. Wait did you 331 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: really write that? Ye? In fact, what I wrote was 332 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: um dumb down version of the Iraq War plus God 333 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: and I wish I remembered what the second thing is. 334 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: It was like plus C G I equals dollar signed, 335 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: dollar signed? Not sorry, where'd you go to college? Stamford? 336 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh that is so funny? Wait, that's also such a 337 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: Actually that was my common as was my analysis of Avatar. 338 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: If I love that critique too, because you're disappointed that 339 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: it was a watered down version of the Iraq War. 340 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: Like if you if that movie worked in your mind, 341 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: it would be a very realistic portrayal of the Like 342 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: who's playing General Petrayus, That's where I'm coming from. Who's 343 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Condi Rice, Who's Colin Powell? You know which one's Dick Cheney? 344 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: And I do want to say one thing about Avatar, 345 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: which is that it was a ay so it was 346 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: a huge deal at Stanford because um Siggourney Weaver is 347 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: a Stanford grad and in the film she wears a 348 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: Stanford um uh tank top as her Avatar character, And 349 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: so then everyone will go back and they'd be like 350 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Stanford Pride, not devastating. No, I would have done the 351 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: same thing, but I felt like I had to speak 352 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: out and say, hey, this is a dumb down version 353 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: of the Iraq War. And it's almost like actually, it's 354 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: about colonialism. I was like, well, aren't they one and 355 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: the same. So people argued with you in the comments? Yes, no, 356 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: for sure. This one piller arguing with me, I remember 357 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: very well. Um, and then he also said it was 358 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: like the best movie you've ever seen. And I was like, okay, well, 359 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about colonialism from someone who 360 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: says Avatar is the best movie they've ever seen. I'm like, wow, 361 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: this is a completely real argument. This is insane. Yeah, no, 362 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: this definitely happened. I was very active on Facebook my 363 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: freshman year. I could see that stinkler. Remember it was 364 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: like my first finals, and after each one I would 365 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: write like three more left. Yeah. I mean we've talked 366 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: about this, but you were to read more right, Yeah? 367 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: I guess I was. But that was later in college. 368 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: In the beginning of college, it's like freshman. Freshman year, 369 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: I was like a little bit, I was a little 370 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: school spirit, and then I became radicalized into being actually 371 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm not school spirit. You know. This is something I've 372 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: been thinking about where I'm ready to get back into 373 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: school spirit. I think like having um sort of owning 374 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: my Like I'm in my thirties and like, really respect 375 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: my college is such a funny person to be and um, 376 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: I kind of want to lean back into that. It's 377 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: very suburban, it's very eighties. I want it. Matthew just 378 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: got a letter in the May out from someone who 379 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: is in his sixties running for like president of some 380 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: like specific committee of the alumni association of his college. 381 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: And maybe that's where you're heading towards. Hey, anything's possible. 382 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: I've already conquered film, just as the Coen Brothers. I 383 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: was on the street just a couple of weeks ago 384 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: and I ran into a woman who was wearing a 385 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: color sweatshirt from my sweatshirt, which is Skidmore College. And 386 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: I said, she was walking a dog and I said, 387 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: I went to Skidmore. And she tried, she tried to 388 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: keep walking, but then she stopped and she said, that's 389 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: so awesome. I graduated in. I said, I graduated in. 390 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: And then we said I have a great day. Well, 391 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: unfortually nice. It was so cool. The city is so big. 392 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: It used to feel grounded for a second. No, that 393 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: sense of community is like why we do what we do. Sorry, 394 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: I blacked out when you said and I just blacked in. No, no, no, see. 395 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: I I had braced myself for it, and I said, Sam, 396 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: you're not going to be one of those thirty one 397 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: year old who freaks out when you meet younger people. 398 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: You're gonna be normal. You're gonna be chill, because you know, 399 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: it's not that freaking weird. Everyone's thirty one eventually. Yeah, 400 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm older. I'm older than you guys like mentally, like, well, 401 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's interesting. Great because you specifically chose to 402 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: include my graduation. You're in that story in order to 403 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of really um kind of like hammere it in 404 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: exactly what the age difference is. You know what? Did 405 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: I say anything bad about Grace? Thank you for saying that, 406 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: because I feel like, George, it's you're being like really 407 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: sensitive and like like Grace literally didn't make a judgment call. 408 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: She was just sort of saying a fact. I mean, 409 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: I guess let's just move on from this. Okay. Someone's 410 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: turned thirty this summer and I'm mad. I'm not angry, 411 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: like it's you know, I think, like, you know, maybe 412 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: the narrative that's being offered is kind of a dumb 413 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: down version of the Iraq war. Oh wow, he's using 414 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: that as a shield again. Yeah, that's actually what I 415 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: say whenever I someone's pissing me off, I say what 416 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you're saying to me right now sounds like a dumb 417 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: down version of the Iraq War and love the grace. 418 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I'm really sorry about my 419 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: tone before. No, it's okay. I want to say that 420 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm so you don't. I really wish, God, 421 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I wish every day I wake up. I feel like 422 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: a piece of ship for it. And I just want 423 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: to thank you, No, thank you for that. Thank you, 424 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: And that's all I want to say. I want to 425 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: say thank you, and I say thank you, and I 426 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: want to say shout out to the woman who graduated 427 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: from Skidmore College who was assaulted on the street by 428 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: my friend, Grace J. Schmidt. Um, just yelling I went 429 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: there too. You know. I'm sure she was just to 430 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: have a normal day in quarantine, wearing fifteen masks, walking 431 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: her dog, who was also wearing many masks. Uh and um. 432 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: She was maybe not prepared for that interaction and she 433 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: said it. She immediately didn't look at you. You were 434 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: immediately offended. Yeah, it's some and for you to make 435 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: a judgment call about her age to her face, I 436 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: feel for her, she said, I graduate. And then you 437 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: immediately said and maybe even thirty depending. M yeah. And 438 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: then I looked at the dog and I said, old dog, 439 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: where did you get this thing? Fuck? I have a confession. 440 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: And this has literally never happened before. It was around 441 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: the time that we have to do our first segment 442 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: because we went along with our previous guests. I do 443 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: not have my complete for questions. What do we do? George? 444 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: Never couldn't. You couldn't think of any while we were 445 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: just sitting there. I have beginnings of why in two, three, four, five, 446 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: at the beginnings of six? Combine some of them. Okay, 447 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I'll combine some of them, but they were not We 448 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: are not going to make any sense, George. It's just 449 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: like the professionalism of this podcast is already like hanging 450 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: on by a threat. I know, I kind of feel 451 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: that you're actually mad at me, and I do get 452 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: it because I've never done anything like this before. Well, 453 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm upset because I wanted a perfect score. I know. 454 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: It's really sad. Wait, um, okay, Sam, why don't you start? Okay, 455 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: I'll explain what is going on and then I will 456 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: also start grace. Um, welcome to our first segment. UM, 457 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: it's called straight Shooters. And then we ask you a 458 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: series of rapifire questions UM to gauge your familiarity with 459 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: the temperature of straight culture. UM, it's just a r B. 460 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: And if you ask us a question to follow up, 461 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: we will get pissed at you. Capiche Um, you know 462 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: I've actually never known, UM, and I will start okay, um, 463 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: grace agreeing to terms and conditions, or proving you're not 464 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: a robot Um, proving I'm not a robot network sitcom 465 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: or environmentally toxic bath bomb network sitcom, homemakeover or violent 466 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: government takeover, violent government takeover, easy one. I'm being silenced 467 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: by cancel culture. Or I'm being Eiffel towered by two 468 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: hot guys. I'm being Eiffel towered by two hot guys. 469 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: Um a list of tweets that totally made us L 470 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: O L this week. Or meet the one artist who's 471 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: changing the way we see fashion. Meet the one artists Blossom, Bubbles, 472 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: Buttercup or Margaret Thatcher, Marge okay A B C D 473 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: E F G or element O P element definitely element 474 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah baby, spice, scary spice, ginger spice, spice, sporty spice, 475 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: or Margaret Thatcher, Margie Marky Mark. Wait are we done? 476 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: That's literally we're done. Okay, Well I had my last 477 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: one was being an interior decorator or and then I 478 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: was trying to make some joke about like having interiority. 479 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: You could have just said that, Okay, well, he's about 480 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: having what like having interior thoughts, like the whole, like 481 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: the it's like being an interior decorator or being just 482 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: someone with interiority. I've never heard that word in my life. 483 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't ask it. Yeah. Same, Well, well, 484 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: what's what's Grace's score? I think Grace should actually rate 485 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: us on our score because I sucked it up so bad. Okay, Grace, 486 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: what's our scores? Yeah, well, they're gonna have to be individual. Yeah. 487 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: I was suspected Sam. I think I came prepared, so 488 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: I will give Sam kind of a ten. And George 489 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: just it wasn't totally there for me. So and here's 490 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: the thing. It's it's I want to you know, in theory, 491 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: you weren't eight. You know, you weren't too bad, but 492 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: I really want to see you push for podcast and 493 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: the next guest. So I'm just gonna have to give 494 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: you I really appreciate it. I really appreciate it, and 495 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: I do want to say I specifically feel bad that 496 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: this is happening with you, as I guess someone who 497 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: has listened to the podcast before, who had certain expectations 498 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: coming in. Um, dreams, you know, dreams that. Yeah, and 499 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: I just dream you were excited. You were you know 500 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: this segment you were excited for kind of like some 501 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: unique questions. And I do think, um, Sam brought his 502 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: A game today and I think, um, it made my 503 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: questions even more lacking. Yea. And in fact, what I 504 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: thought was, I was like, wow, because I had the 505 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have the last, I didn't have a final 506 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: option for two of mine. I thought maybe there could 507 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: be kind of a meta joke if I do Margaret 508 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: Thatcher twice. But ultimately, Margaret Thatcher is not a funny 509 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: coda to like the Powerpuff Girls. You know, sure, it's 510 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: it's less like a direct relation. But George, I really 511 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: think that you were overthinking and um, you don't need 512 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: to be so critical of what is a sort of 513 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: a flippant segment even I know, but then you came 514 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: in with I mean some really really thoughtful intellect. They 515 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: were really good and look, but it's not a competition. 516 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: Actually think this time it was. But yeah, I know 517 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: this time it was and I lost and that is 518 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: hurt and it doesn't feel good. No, but you know 519 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: it's a it's a learning moment and a growing moment. Yeah, Grace, 520 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: how do you think it's a good thing because it 521 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: gives you a first start for Monday? I in right 522 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: after this is over, I have to go have dinner 523 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend's parents. What do you think my vibe 524 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: will be after recording two episodes of this podcast? Um, 525 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be um happy. I think you're 526 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna be sort of silly. But in a way that's 527 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: actually going to kind of backfire because no one else 528 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: is going to be in that headspace. I completely agree. 529 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: So you're going to chart, You're going to a restaurant 530 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: or are you having it at a home? Um, it's 531 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna be outdoors. Don't worry. Well, I actually wasn't even 532 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: asking for that. Oh it's at a home, but it's outdoors, yeah, 533 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: because I was going and do I do you want 534 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: me to judge you or are you clear? Okay? Well 535 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I never knew, I mean in these times. No, listen, listen, 536 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: this episode comes out in two weeks. And also they're 537 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: both the parents are both vaccinated. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, so 538 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: many parents are so many parents? Yeah, it's something to talk. Yeah, 539 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: it's like the you know exactly, Yeah. Vaccination now is 540 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: kind of like what those quilty um bags were that 541 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: moms used to have in like the early two thousand's, 542 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, m Yeah, yeah, were Lily 543 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Putzer's something No, no, it was called um oh funk 544 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: what were those called? Grace doesn't know she was too 545 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: when they were Um wait, let oh my god, I 546 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Cares you 547 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: need to come down? Um wait? Should we get to 548 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: our topic right now? It's like, I think this is 549 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: one of those episodes where we really need to get 550 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: right into the topic. And I also think, frankly, we 551 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: have been um talking too much and not letting Gray 552 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: stock No, I feel I've been talking. Okay, good, I 553 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: feel the same way. Okay, So that was a trap. Yeah, yeah, 554 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: it was a trap, and you actually fell into it 555 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: even though you knew it was a trap you felt. 556 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: George is really indirect. That was his way to ask 557 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: you to speak a little bit less whisper I. Actually 558 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: it's like how people are like, you know, if someone's 559 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: being too loud or something, Oh my god, well actually 560 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: there's not a good story. But if if someone's like 561 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: being louder, like are you do you hear that? Or something? 562 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. So that's like a 563 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: movie kind of perfect passive, passive aggressive, you know what 564 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: it is. It's Meryl Streep going no, no, that wasn't 565 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: a question. She's such a rock star. She said that 566 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: in rock Star. She said that in Doubt when she 567 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: was interrogating the priest about if he committed, um, he 568 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: committed child abuse. She was like, and you committed child abuse? 569 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: And he was like no, and she goes, no, no, 570 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: that wasn't a question. It was a really iconic comedic scene. Anyway, 571 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: let's go on to the topic. All right, yeah, this 572 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: is where we let you host. I'm sorry, was that 573 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: too much? Which part just like me making a joke 574 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: about doubt. No, people, we got the doubt heads in 575 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: this podcast are going to be freaking for that. Okay, Um, Okay, Grace, 576 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: you know you hit us with a couple of topics, 577 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: but one really spoke to us. Will you sort of 578 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: walk us through how you found this topic and what 579 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: it is? Mm hmmm. So the topic is um siblings 580 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: boy girl siblings taking photos where they're just too close 581 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: to each other. Yes, yeah, yeah. And I chose this 582 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: this topic because it freaks me out, creeps me out, 583 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: weirds me out, and I just I hope it ends 584 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: in and so you know, I can't help, but notice 585 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: I've picked up on some things just in this conversation. 586 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: You yourself have a brother, and so that would be 587 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: sort of a boy girl sibling. And um, have you 588 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: been forced to take pictures where you're too close together? 589 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: Have you ever been in the same room? Yeah, we have, 590 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: we have, and we will to continue to. But here's 591 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: what you know, I guess I'll go and more details. 592 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: The hardest part of this topic for me is when 593 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: they're amongst the pool, so the boy shirt is off, 594 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: the girls wearing a bikini, and their hips are just 595 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: too cool. They're touching, you know. And I just want 596 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: everyone to know. I want us and I want all 597 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: the whole um. Everyone's sning to know, you're never going 598 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: to see my brother and I shirtless with our hips touching, 599 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, Grace, just be careful because we have a 600 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of investigative journalists, you know, our fan base, and 601 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: saying a statement like that, people are gonna look for pictures. 602 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: I actually think most of our listeners are investigative journalists, 603 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: and I just think it. You know, obviously, if it's true, 604 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: go ahead and make a bold claim like that. I 605 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: mean maybe when we were young there could have been, 606 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: because before it was never. Yeah, but never never just 607 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: means posting. Um, okay, I guess when do you think 608 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: it becomes appropriate to touch hips? I think it's appropriate 609 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: until m hmm, good question. Really until puberty. I'm kind 610 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 1: of gonna say, I think we're going through puberty. Look 611 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: good doing it? They? Um. I guess why? What do 612 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: you think the relation is with straightness? Um? I think 613 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: the relationship with straightness is that, you know, my alarms 614 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: and my head go off and I go, they're not siblings, 615 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: they're fucking And so that's where that's where it happens 616 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: for me, at the very least, with my brother and 617 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: I do one day, then the very least I'm a lesbian. 618 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, I do often think about what it 619 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: would be like two even have that on the tape, like, 620 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: because I agree there is no world in which I 621 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: would ever have sexual tension with any of my siblings 622 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: sam well as someone who has a brother and a sister. 623 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: So in that sense, I am bisexual. M that's it 624 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: adds up. Um. You know, I think you guys are being, um, 625 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: pretty ignorant of um what a sibling relationship is, because 626 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, actually, even if you are UM attracted to 627 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: um man for example, and you have a brother, you know, 628 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: growing up with them, you actually don't find them hot 629 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: because you've sort of grown up together. It's sort of 630 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: like a like a biological thing. Okay, continue, I'm curious 631 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: to see where this goes. Yeah, so far I'm not following. Okay, Okay, 632 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: here's okay, here's a little mind game we can all play. 633 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: So George, I'll start with you. You know you have 634 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: a mother and a father. Yes, it so how did 635 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: you grow up and not find your dad um extremely 636 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: hot because he's a man? Right? Yeah? But but um 637 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: m hmm no, that's a very good point, Um, George, 638 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: you gotta answer, George. This is not looking good. I 639 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: just was not. I was not attracted him because he 640 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: was my dad. However, I think when you grow up 641 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: with someone and you are, you know, the same age 642 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: as it's like someone in your grade or someone in 643 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: your class at school that is way more let's stay 644 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: close to home than someone who is your dad's age. 645 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: So I you know, when you normally ask a kid 646 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: do you have a crush on anyone at school? It's 647 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 1: so rare that the kid says, my history teacher, Mr Webster. 648 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, usually it's kind of like Mikey, Yeah, Mikey Webster, 649 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: the history teacher. Um. So you're saying that the age 650 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: difference the age you're not ultimately what I'm saying that 651 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: it's the And also it's like, you know, as as 652 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: a gay uh boy, you want to protect your mom 653 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: and suddenly there's this man and he's what sleeping with 654 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: your mom? Disgusting? How would I ever be attracted at right? 655 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: A monster of sorts? H m hm that makes sense 656 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: to me. Anyway, Sam, what's your deal with your brother? 657 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: Because you're soon to be asking a lot of questions. 658 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: Dam are you? Here's what I'm asking. Are you at 659 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: the beach or at a pool and you're both shirts 660 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: and you're taking pics hips touching. Here's what I will 661 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: tell you. I have absolutely taken pictures at the beach 662 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: with my siblings, both of them hips touching. Oh my god, 663 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: sibling sandwich and a picture and and you know, my 664 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: brother and I were wearing speedos and and we're taking 665 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: these these pictures to hip, both of you, and we're 666 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: sending them to our parents. And we're saying that is sick. 667 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: God forbid, God forbid the sisters wearing anything anything. No, 668 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: she's wearing for her sake, she's wearing a bikini, baccany. 669 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you are taking sexy, sexual 670 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: photos and then sexting them to your own parents. And 671 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, mom and dad locally just took taking 672 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: the photos too. Yeah, some kind of fourth weird sibling 673 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: with like a weird kind of look that is ostracized 674 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: in the family and his job is to take the photos. 675 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, now that you've mentioned that, I actually have 676 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: no idea who was taking that picture. It was just 677 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: the three of us at the beach, a private beach. Wow. 678 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: And so and you're and you're also rich, so you 679 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: have a private beach where you do where you take 680 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: sexy photos of your siblings. This is like Galaine Maxwell 681 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: type level shit. Oh my goodness, George, here we go again, 682 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: being the podcast trope of talking about Epstein on a podcast. 683 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: Um uh, well you seem no. I'm just thinking a 684 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: lot of my brain around this. I I do want 685 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: to say, um, Grace, you have forced both of us 686 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: to do a lot of soul searching. But I am 687 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: wondering what would make you want to go on a 688 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: podcast and immediately interrogate people about whether or not they've 689 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: ever touched hips with their siblings. What are you trying 690 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: to prove? Yeah, you know, so I'll go into my 691 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: backstory kind of Oh she's got a backstory. Yeah, I've 692 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: got a backstory growing up, growing up, I'll you know, honestly, 693 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: I had to have a hot brother. And I know 694 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: this because we should put a sad score behind this, Okay, 695 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: keep going. I know this because people have been spitting 696 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: it at me my whole life, and friends of friends, 697 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: they've all been telling me you got a hot brother. 698 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: And at a certain point in high school, I said, fine, 699 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: I admit it, Yeah I do. And then they said 700 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: to me, whoa, do you want to kiss your brother? 701 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: And I said no, I'm just kind of admitting to 702 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: the facts. And then I became Then I was forced 703 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: to become a lesbian to get myself out of that hole. 704 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh oh wait, this is wait, this is actually is 705 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: that the end of your backstory? Okay, because this actually 706 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: hits on something very interesting that I think maybe it's 707 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: the common thread between all three of us, because my 708 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: sister was just one right above me, and people will 709 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: always be like, your sister is hot, and so then 710 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: I had to be like, well, I'm gay then, because 711 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: to dispel the rumors. It's the only way. And George, 712 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: you have only sisters. So I do have only sisters. 713 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: But I will say, as much as I understand where 714 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: your two are coming from and celebrate it, I do 715 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: think it has to do with more with having an 716 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: older sibling. So my sisters are younger than me, and 717 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: in fact, I mean one is five years younger than 718 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: one is eight years younger. Like it was never no 719 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 1: one growing up was like you have a hot sister, 720 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: Like that was not part of it because she was 721 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: way way younger than anyone I would be in school with. 722 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: So my experience with what you guys are saying was 723 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: that all the guys in my grade would say my 724 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: mom was hot, So I would be like one of 725 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: those people who had a hot mom. That's the penultimate. 726 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: And in fact, when I was in middle school and 727 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: this was still in New Jersey before I moved back 728 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: to Greece, me and this other kids, Schavan both had 729 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: the two hot moms. And then I went from being 730 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: insecure out everyone's saying at mom to being like, okay, 731 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: hold on, there's competition. I want my mom to be 732 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: hotter than Chavon's mom. Yeah. Wow. So you'd be like, 733 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: you know, suggesting sort of fashion tips to your mom, 734 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: sort of hello, we're about to go to this event. 735 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: Chavon's mom is going to be there, Like, I better 736 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: fucking step your yeah, undo that top button. And then 737 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: Chavon's would show up in like a gown, and I'd 738 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: be like, fuck, I mean, why my mom has the 739 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: one of those quilted bags from before? Call back, call 740 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: back to the name we can't remember? Um? Interesting? I mean, 741 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: this is um. I do think to try to tie 742 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: it into straight culture. There is a fear that straight 743 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: people have about their families where they're like afraid of 744 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: sexualizing their relatives. We do you say that's true? Well, 745 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, doesn't everyone Like I don't think you feel 746 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: gay people would feel the same. I guess that's true. 747 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: That's sort of where the gay and straight people meet 748 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: in the middle is not wanting to sexualize each other's 749 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: So maybe the final taboo is sexualizing your family. Yeah, so, 750 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: so should I move on to my next topic because 751 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 1: this one didn't work at all? Kind of was MythBusters 752 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: and you guys came on and then you guys are 753 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: like busted. So I still think, I mean, I get 754 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: what you mean. I still think the actual photograph is 755 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: such a relic of straight culture. I think it is. 756 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: I think maybe your reasoning um is flawed, you know, 757 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: sort of if you see, like your answer is right, 758 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: but the work, when you actually show the work, it's like, 759 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: well that's not right. But I do want to say 760 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: one thing is that a beach is one of those 761 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: settings that can have both the familial a family connotation 762 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: and a sex like a beach can be sexy, but 763 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: it can also be the site of a family vacation, 764 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: and I think the tension between those two is where 765 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: this Uh, darkness comes from like that. That is where 766 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: that is where it becomes scary. It's like because you 767 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: see a photo of two siblings hips touching, and you say, 768 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: is this beach a sexy setting or is it a 769 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: family setting? And that's why it can be really deadly. 770 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: You know, I really when I brought this up, I really, 771 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about this one guy that I know. 772 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: The photos he takes with his sister, they are so 773 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 1: much more sexual than the photos he takes with his girlfriend. 774 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: It's really because he's always on vacation with his sister shirtless, 775 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 1: hips touching, and with the girlfriend. I guess they're just 776 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: kind of you know, drinking wine or something, you know, 777 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: something non sexual. It's interesting that you it started with 778 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: this one guy, Um, And in order for you to 779 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: grapple with just the fact that you know one person 780 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: that takes appropriate photos, you had to plunge me and 781 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: Sam into the depths of our past traumas. UM make 782 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: theories about heterosexuality and culture at large. Come on a 783 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: podcast even, um and you know, put us through this 784 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: whole journey just to them be like, yeah, I guess 785 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: it's just this one guy, know who's weird. Well, here's 786 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: the deal. I was. I'm a psychology major. I could 787 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: definitely sense that. Yeah, and I got a two points 788 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: that I graduated with the two point seven g p 789 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: A insurance. So I'm always kind of just psychology isn't 790 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: on the brain constantly. So I was kind of trying 791 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: to I wanted to gauge where you guys were at. Yeah, 792 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: do you think the fact that you majored in psychology 793 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: but um graduated two point seven g p A does 794 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: that mean it? Do you think college made you better 795 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: at psychology or you saw what they were teaching and 796 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: you were like, this is wrong. I know better, but 797 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: I know more about psychology. Yeah, I'd say, you know, 798 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: I took everything that I learned in my psychology college 799 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 1: classes and I've kind of ran with it since. So 800 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm developing a lot in my lab, um, and I'm 801 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: going to be using that your recording this, Georgia, I'm 802 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: also recording this. Oh wow. So in many ways you 803 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: were on our podcast, but at the same time we 804 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: were in your research project. Well, one of the things 805 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: you kept doing in college was instead of doing projects, 806 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: you would record podcasts and submit them and UM people 807 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: with the teachers would say that's not how college works. 808 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: And you would say, well, we're brought to you by Squarespace. 809 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: I'd say, just wait till right. Podcasts are gonna be everywhere. 810 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna be big money. My favorite part about having 811 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: a podcast is all the money. Yeah, we're drowning in it. 812 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: You're drowning in it. Sorry, just like fully left my body. 813 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: Wait why because because I've just been like on autopilot, 814 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: and I'm also so afraid someone's going to say something 815 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: weird about about siblings. No, everyone's being really really tasteful 816 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: and respectful, or that I will say something weird or like, 817 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: in my attempts to be funny, I will say something 818 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 1: that's like really inappropriate. It really is one of those topics, 819 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: Like it's like, it's so difficult to be funny about 820 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: um hip, about siblings hips touching right. Well, Also, like 821 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: you said, your siblings are younger, My my brother is older. 822 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, what the Yeah, it's always fine 823 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: to sexualize older siblings. Well, okay. There's also the final 824 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: piece of this puzzle, I feel is the beach. And 825 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: I think the fact that you're talking specifically about swimsuit 826 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: beach pictures is important because there is like the whole 827 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: weirdness of the beach, like is that you are semi 828 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: nude around a lot of times your family. Like I 829 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,720 Speaker 1: have a vivid memory of like, you know, my parents 830 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: lived near Lake Michigan, and like for the Fourth of July, 831 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: we're at Lake Michigan and like random family members show up, 832 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: like uncles that I don't really know, we're like, and 833 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: they'll be like, like, I'll be in like teeny tiny 834 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: shorts and it'll be like do we hug? Now? Like 835 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: it's it's actually homophobic if you don't hug me, but 836 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 1: it's actually gay if we hug. So what do we do? 837 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: It's also like why am I like if you're it's 838 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: like you will then just like see your dad's co 839 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: workers in their underwear essentially, and you're just supposed to 840 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: be okay with that. And in many ways, you know, 841 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: I feel like in a dream, we should be you know, 842 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: nudity should be fine and normal and we can sort 843 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: of take away sexuality when it's you know, not appropriate 844 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: for the city. Nudity is wrong, guys because it was 845 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: taught to be wrong, right, Thank you. That's a really 846 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: good point. So much. Yeah. Actually, it's so you pioneered 847 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: the concept that society teaches us certain things are wrong, 848 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: they're not inherently wrong. And I go really into I 849 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: love to bring up biblical stuff, you know, I go 850 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: into Adam and Eve. Oh wow, right, well, Adam and Eve. Uh, 851 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 1: the God said don't. God said, don't touch your hips. Yeah, 852 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: he said that, and they did so, and then they 853 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: had the apple and the snake. Yes, and now we're 854 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: cursed to see our dad's coworkers in underwear. Well blessed, 855 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: But you know, it depends on what the co workers 856 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: look like. Let me tell you that fascinating. Fascinating. It 857 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: is true, though, that the beaches like. It's just it's 858 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: interesting because because you are supposed to both find things 859 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: incredibly both find bathing suits incredibly sexual, and pretend they 860 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: are not sexual at all. Yeah, and I'm still I've 861 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: never felt, you know, honestly good in any single bathing 862 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: thing I've ever worn in my life. Could not imagine 863 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: feeling good in a bathing that the idea that you 864 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: would that I would be at a beach and not 865 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: be looking for for ways to cover my body is 866 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: so foreign to me. Grace, how are we doing on 867 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: this podcast. I think, really well, I'm having a lot 868 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: of fun. Okay, good, I feel like you know you're 869 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: you're someone I think is so funny. And we've never 870 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: literally ever talked in person. And we didn't even address 871 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: that either. We did not whoa. We didn't address that. 872 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: You guys have worked together, No, we've never spoken before. 873 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: Inn in my mind, you're both in the Comedy Central cabal. 874 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: Sam was on salary. I got paid to two dollars. Yeah, 875 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: well I'm familiar. Was the r guy that gave made 876 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: the offer for two years. Sam said, let's take a 877 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: chance on this young hungry girl, Grace. Sam said, now 878 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: we'll give you to Look. I said, babe, I got you. 879 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: You're getting to go buy yourself a Gatorade and give 880 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: me and keep the extra fifty cents. And she did. 881 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: We never met. I only worked with Devin and that's it. Wow. Um, 882 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: can I say something earlier when I was like talking 883 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 1: about like Grace being young and truly in my mind 884 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: I forgot like when was like it seemed like so 885 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: much more recently, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's 886 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: are actually very close and in my mind to me, 887 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, my god, that's last year. But 888 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: it's not I'm that young. I mean, that's kind of 889 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like you actually are like, I mean, 890 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: most something in Hollywood years. Oh my god, it might 891 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: be time to start looking into the botox and fillers. 892 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: And I've already been told. I've already been told. They're saying, 893 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, Grace, this is your last year to play 894 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: sex symbol. They keep telling me that, but then years past, 895 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 1: and I keep getting the roles because they're like trying 896 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: to get me into be in Transformers as kind of 897 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 1: the new Megan Falls. But they're saying, well, you're aging 898 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, so we'll see what happened. We'll see 899 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: what ends up happening. But you know, but I think 900 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: something that you can do is, um, do it with 901 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: your face. Do you just an impression of a baby 902 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: like as you're acting, just kind of be like, yeah, 903 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: I think that would really work. I think it does 904 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: make you younger. And and I feel like that's a 905 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: little acting trick. It's funny that you say it's so 906 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: simply because it's really good trick. It's worked for a 907 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, I know a lot of people 908 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 1: it's so interesting. A lot of our most famous actors, 909 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot of our national treasures, what they do for 910 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: every role is pretend they're a baby, you know, and 911 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: can we can I say something? Yeah, I have been 912 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: noticing a lot of I've been obviously have been paying 913 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: attention to actors, you know, I'm trying to learn everything 914 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: from the greats, and I have noticed a lot of 915 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: people doing this thing with their lips where they like 916 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: like they quiver. No, no, no no, it's not quiver. They 917 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: like purse them like when they're thinking, and they like 918 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: you see them like smushed together in a way that's 919 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: to me very inhuman. But to me, it's also the 920 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: most popular acting choice of our time, and Halfaway does that. 921 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: It's a lot like sorry, I know this is a 922 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: visual um right thing to talk about, So it's kind 923 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: of difficult. It's interesting you're saying this because I'm I'm like, shit, 924 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: I haven't watched anything that's scripted in a full year. 925 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: I the question about that, So, Grace, you are kind 926 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: of a reality queen. Yeah, I mean I just can't. 927 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 1: I can't watch scripture television. I've tried, and I've tried. 928 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: So what are your favorite shows. Well, I really love 929 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. UM, I love Below Deck, 930 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: I love MTVS The Challenge. Oh, I love MTV as 931 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 1: the Challenge. Really didn't they recently bring it back or something? 932 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't watched it since I was very young. 933 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: But um, my brother is literally an editor on that 934 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: show who is not random. So by loving his work, 935 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,479 Speaker 1: you're sort of like loving him. Yeah, that's so. Really 936 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're with him. It's like your version 937 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: of a little bit your version of like touching hips 938 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: with him is like seeing his footage of other people's hips. 939 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: It's my secret way to get get in there. Yikes. 940 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: You know. I think the structure of this particular episode 941 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: is very funny because at the beginning, we UM really 942 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: came in hot with a bit um you know, full 943 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: a full sort of improv scene. Then we sort of 944 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: came in with the you know, the normal podcast, the segments, 945 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: the topic, and now we're sort of being like, oh, hey, Grace, 946 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: we actually don't know you at all. Let's chat up 947 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: it and sort of what's up? I think you have 948 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: real you know, a sort of a more experienced podcast. 949 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: UM maybe would have flipped that sort of getting to 950 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: know you at the top. No, I think an inexperience 951 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: podcast would have done that because the most obvious thing 952 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: to do, because they're they're reaching, they're reaching. We can't 953 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: think of anything. I cannot even imagine how humiliated I 954 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: would be if I brought someone on our podcast and 955 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: literally was like, so, ho have you been rather watch 956 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,959 Speaker 1: Avatar again? In theaters? If my mom while touching hits 957 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: with all my family members. You know, I never told 958 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: you where I was when I watched Avatar while I 959 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: was in Minneapolis, Minnesota with not only my brother but 960 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: also my cousins, and we were sitting in the chairs 961 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: in three D and we were moved by the cinema 962 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: that was Avatar. You have to admit, the blue guys 963 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: are pretty cool to look at. It's like, have you 964 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: rewatched it since it came out? Uh? No, no, right, no, 965 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: it would never cross my mind. I cannot wait for 966 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,439 Speaker 1: the next ones to come out. I'm going to be there. 967 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Opening Nights is a remake or is it? Like Avatar? 968 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: To is literally about to be like five sequels and 969 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like that. Have been your development for 970 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: like a decade, a decade and it's gonna be I mean, 971 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: it's I feel like there's like a chance it's a 972 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: total flop. You imagine if it was a total flop. 973 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I am hoping and praying. I'm wanting I want James 974 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Cameron's art pop era. I've said it once, I'll say 975 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: it a million times. I'm ready to see this bitch flop. Okay, 976 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: here's the cinophile. Wait, so you want his art pop 977 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: in the in the sense that you wanted to flop 978 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to slop, that you wanted to be good. 979 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I want to flop in an exciting way. Oh so 980 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: you want him to make like uh yeah, Like, um, 981 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 1: what's the movie like that movie Mother with Jennifer Lawrence 982 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 1: that was really good? Did that? Okay? Randomly I loved it? 983 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: You know, I never watched it because people said it 984 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: was a little bit scary. It's really scary. Really well, 985 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: it's I mean it's not. I mean it's stressful. It's 986 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: very stressful and things happen that are disgusting and yeah 987 01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 1: compared to like Hereditary, um Midsummer No, not scary like those, 988 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: more like um, just like good, yeah, very stressful. Wait 989 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: for performance. Sorry, go ahead? Should we do our last segment. Funk, 990 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:19,959 Speaker 1: I guess look like when the milk. It's like I see, 991 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Grace to me is just like so talented and so funny, 992 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: and I I I have, I feel such a sense 993 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: of urgency to get everything I can out of her 994 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 1: insode and it feels like strange. I'm trying to siphon 995 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: it out of you, and I think I'm there, very 996 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: hocus pocused vibes, trying to suck right out. Yeah, yeah, 997 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 1: I if you can tell, I'm actually much less wrinkly 998 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: than I was at the beginning of this episode, and 999 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: insanely rinkly the doing of this episode. It was weird. 1000 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: It was a little too rinkly. Yeah, it was. But 1001 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I've been doing my exercises and pretending to be a 1002 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: baby in order to be a better actor, and I 1003 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: think it's working. I think, Yeah, dressed for the job 1004 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: you want, I'm currently wearing a diaper and shipping myself. Wow. Okay, 1005 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: let's do our final seg Um, Grace. Our final segments 1006 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: called shout outs, and we um give us a shout out, 1007 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: sort of in the style of two thousand one TRL 1008 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: back to your Squad, back Home, just about literally anything 1009 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 1: you're like enjoying right now. Um. And you know, per usual, 1010 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: we never have them. We are not the type of people. 1011 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, George has proven over and over again he 1012 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: doesn't prepare for this podcast. Um um, but call back, 1013 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 1: call back to earlier, kind of call back to the 1014 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: whole episode a little bit. Yeah, I kind of call 1015 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: back you vibes. Um. I want to give a quick 1016 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: shout out to Grace's hair and nose ring combo. What 1017 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: it says is like, it's this thing and I've been 1018 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: trying to put my finger on it. It's like it 1019 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: is exactly what it needs to be, but it's pretending 1020 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: it's all completely effortless and a reverend. But in fact, 1021 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: both of those things together make up such a specific 1022 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of visual. Um. Uh, you know it's it's hold on, 1023 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut this both of those together. Why this 1024 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 1: is your show? Shut up? My point is it's like 1025 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: it's like it's like this is like exactly the kind 1026 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: of look I would want, where it's like you think 1027 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: it's effortless, but in fact it has been completely focus 1028 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: group tested. Grace has spent years and hired consultants from 1029 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Bain McKenzie many companies honestly, other companies that are very 1030 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: uneffical to work with the American government and even have 1031 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: blood on their hands. She has hired them to focus 1032 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 1: group this look that she currently has going all under 1033 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: the pretense pretense of being like, oh, I'm the grown 1034 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: up store. Wow. Maybe if you live next door to 1035 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: the Pentagon. Who wow? Um, that go off so incredibly kind. 1036 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, that actually inspires a good shout out 1037 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: for me. Um, what's up? Listeners? Um, you know, all 1038 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: respect to Grace, I think you know her look is incredible. 1039 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 1: It's not It's isn't a commentary on that at all. 1040 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: I just want to say that if I could have 1041 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: my top hair style that a team of consultants would 1042 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: give me, it would be I want the top Pony 1043 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 1: that is really really long. Ariana Grande does it well, 1044 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: but I want it more um, sort of mormal comedy 1045 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: instead of um pop, sorry if that makes any sense. 1046 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: And I wanted to be platinum blonde and I want 1047 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: to be able to whip it around. I really think 1048 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I would crush and um, it would be sort of 1049 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: an incredible look. Uh, shout out to the top Pony, 1050 01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: You're beautiful. I love you. Woo. That was good? Am 1051 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: I allowed to talk in between these? Yeah, that's so 1052 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: it would be so fun. Imagine um, you know, in 1053 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande's music video, perhaps what's the one you got 1054 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: me All night? Thank You? In the music video, she's 1055 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: on a bike. She's kind of a soul cycle bike, 1056 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: and it would just be fun to do a soule 1057 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: psycle class with that hair. Yes, I cannot believe. That's 1058 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: what a lot of stuff would be fun. A psycho 1059 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 1: class are on a Grande? Yeah, a little body too 1060 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 1: for her day? Why not? Oh my god? Why not 1061 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: take it for a spiny? Is it my turn? Yes? 1062 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: I want to give I want to give a shout 1063 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 1: out to at the baseball game, the MLB professional You 1064 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: go upstairs and you get a soft serve. But you 1065 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 1: don't get it in a in a cup or accoune. 1066 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: You get it in a tiny little helmet. Whoa, Oh 1067 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: my god. When things are the shape of other things, 1068 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I lose it. No, I think that what I'm talking about, right, 1069 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: of course, of course, And you get to bring the 1070 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: little helmet home. Oh my god. So it's actually like 1071 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: two things for the price of the point, because you're 1072 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: getting the helmet and the ice cream. I mean, it's 1073 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: really the bread bowl of sports snacks. And Daddy's paying, honey, 1074 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: when I'm at the game. Daddy's always paying. And our 1075 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: hips started touching. Oh well, um, Grace, thank you so 1076 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: much for doing this podcast. This was really illuminating. I 1077 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: am really big fans of both of you. I'm really 1078 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 1: honored to have been on this podcast, and I I'm 1079 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: so clit to hang after this is over. I know, 1080 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk both big fans of yours. 1081 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: It's true and this you know, we've never met, and 1082 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: yet this was completely effortless. I feel like I'm talking 1083 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: to a damn old friend, absolutely old, even age wise, 1084 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: as we've George, George, I dropped it. I dropped the 1085 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: age thing. Look like, let us go, Like I dropped it, okay, 1086 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: like we don't have to bring it up, Like yes, 1087 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: it's just like give it like drop it. Um but seriously, 1088 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: but for realities, um, Okay, well then thank you and okay, 1089 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 1: bye bye. But do