WEBVTT - NST Hotline: B-list wedding invites, hallway storage, and more

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Anny, I'm Noah. This is and this is no

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<v Speaker 2>It's the NST Hotline.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be giving advice about B list wedding invites, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you should side with your spouse or your mother, hat

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<v Speaker 1>etiquette and Hallway etiquette, and then stick around for our.

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<v Speaker 2>Gift guide for this holiday season.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no no such thing, no such thing, no such thing,

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<v Speaker 4>such thing, such a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I think let's start with this question about

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<v Speaker 1>wedding b list invites.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Manny, Noah, and Devin. I'm a longtime listener of

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<v Speaker 5>the podcast. I had kind of a weird question. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>just jump right into it. I'm engaged and getting married

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<v Speaker 5>next year, and we are currently in the phases of

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<v Speaker 5>narrowing down our guest list. We obviously have an a

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<v Speaker 5>list people we need to be there, but we also

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<v Speaker 5>have some people that we would like to be there

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<v Speaker 5>if space opened up. We were chatting it that was

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<v Speaker 5>appropriate to have a B list wedding invite list of

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<v Speaker 5>other friends that we would love to see again if

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<v Speaker 5>the space opened up. My friend under saying it would

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<v Speaker 5>be no big deal to have a B list, Whereas

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<v Speaker 5>I think if I found out I was on the

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<v Speaker 5>B list and I got an invitation a two months

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<v Speaker 5>before the wedding, I would feel like an afterthought. So

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<v Speaker 5>my question, in short, is is it appropriate to have

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<v Speaker 5>a B list of wedding invites at your own wedding?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So despite the fact that I am married, I've not

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with this. Only one of us have

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with wedding invites. So Noah, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get your take on this. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you have a B list?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because we really only did one round of invites,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were certainly when we were making the initial list,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, Like she says, it's like, all right, you

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<v Speaker 2>have family, extended family, people who have to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>people involved in the wedding, of course, and then you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well who else, Like who are the friends we would invite?

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<v Speaker 3>Are there work people, whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have a bee where we didn't do two rounds.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we had gotten a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who couldn't make it, whether you know, family or whoever

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<v Speaker 2>that couldn't fly out or something like that. We would

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<v Speaker 2>have added more. I mean with the vent, like our venue,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a minimum amount of people that we were

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<v Speaker 2>paying for no matter what, and then you pay per

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<v Speaker 2>person on top of that. My view is I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay to do. I think anyone who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the B list probably knows they're on the

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<v Speaker 2>B list. Like within your friend groups, there are people

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to regularly, and then there's people I see

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<v Speaker 2>every couple of months who wouldn't be surprised if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not invited to my wedding. That's limited, like if I

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<v Speaker 2>was having a thousand person wedding. Some people do have

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<v Speaker 2>huge weddings and they invite everyone they've ever met, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's cool. So similarly, if I received an

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<v Speaker 2>invite that seemed suspiciously close to the date, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be in sold because it's probably someone I barely

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<v Speaker 2>talk to and I'm like, cool, it seems fun, like

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<v Speaker 2>I always liked them, and I'll go if it's convenient.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>If I got an invite that was like two months

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<v Speaker 1>away from wedding, it would be number one very clear

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<v Speaker 1>that like some room became available.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think i'd be offended.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of weddings in my life that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I kind of thought i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>invited to that, but it wasn't like it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>fuck them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I was immediately like, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>They must have you know, very limited space, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see them all the time, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of b lists. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it's still nice. You're still getting invited

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<v Speaker 1>to the most important day in someone's life, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even if you don't really care.

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<v Speaker 2>As I think, it's like they can maybe avoid this

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<v Speaker 2>depending on when the wedding is. If they send out

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<v Speaker 2>the invites really early, then at least the second wave

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<v Speaker 2>can come right and they you know, they say please

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<v Speaker 2>actually if you by this, you can have it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit farther back. So it's not like, Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying like we need to fill these tables because otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be out, you know, a couple of thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so we need to be honest with each

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<v Speaker 2>other about Yeah, yeah, it's the same with plus ones,

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like we didn't give we didn't give like

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<v Speaker 2>plus ones to everyone or really most people. It was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like if you ask, then we could see

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<v Speaker 2>what the numbers were shaking out based on other rs vps.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's like and like, if I know you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anyone there, or like you're gonna be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there by yourself, that's one thing. If you're coming

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<v Speaker 2>by yourself and I know you know at least ten

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<v Speaker 2>other people, I don't feel like I don't need you

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<v Speaker 2>to bring some random person respectfully.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's not free.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like and now it's like, now, great, so this

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<v Speaker 2>other person's here, this random person for no for really

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<v Speaker 2>no reason other than like you wanted someone to drive

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<v Speaker 2>up with, which is fair. But it's like it's in

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<v Speaker 2>those scenarios, it's kind of like, you know, respectfully again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't make it because of that, yeah, i'll

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<v Speaker 2>see it. I'll see you next time. No hard feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>What I thought when I first heard this is what

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<v Speaker 6>if there was a way to like put people on

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<v Speaker 6>a waiting list.

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<v Speaker 3>That's you know, that's especially what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Talking a lot about. But we're doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>like okay, behind closed door stuff. What if you were

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<v Speaker 6>really upfront with people and you sent out to save

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<v Speaker 6>the dates and you sent them a save the date

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<v Speaker 6>that said, hey, would.

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<v Speaker 3>Love to have you there, save the date because limited

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<v Speaker 3>we might need you.

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<v Speaker 6>We you know, if things open, if some family close

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<v Speaker 6>family members can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it, that's more than that's more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to save this day a year from now

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, prime maybe prime travel time and be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh well what if what if they can't make it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would like to be surprised with an invite,

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like it's up to me if I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to, because it's.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd rather not know ahead of time and have a

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<v Speaker 3>last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the B List one, it's like no pressure that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, inviter can't get mad if I can't make

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<v Speaker 2>it on shorter notice, it's like, well, no one, neither

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<v Speaker 2>of us expected to be No.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the same expectations, right, Like, if.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sending you a B List invite, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>expect you to be there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I always have the same expectations,

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<v Speaker 6>even if I were sending something ahead of time, is

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<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you got the note earlier, I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to insult that person more.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm thinking the way better.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you go on a website, it seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>like dice FM that music tickets thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it, but we'll text you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you get a couple of hours before.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, or like Rezie, I like your suggestion of doing

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<v Speaker 6>the invites earlier so that you can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's not like I mean, that's just good advice

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what. Yeah, you get your number locked in.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, say you're sending the B list, you even say

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<v Speaker 6>anything in your scenario, do you say what you just said?

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<v Speaker 3>You just open up or do you just send it

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<v Speaker 3>like it's normal. I think I sent in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if it was someone like like someone in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, like like yeah, we don't need to have

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<v Speaker 2>his name in here, we're not that close, but like

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<v Speaker 2>we text and like I like seeing him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah he's someone I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Have seen making it on that B list. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>think for him I would have texted because one he

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<v Speaker 2>would also he's married, he would he would get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah too, So him.

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably send the invite and then I like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're sending a thing like YadA YadA other people. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think what an example of that other person

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<v Speaker 2>would that I that I'm close enough to want to invite. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't text, but I could see just sending it

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<v Speaker 2>and be like hey, if they do it, then great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think i'd be like some perpheral family person or yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the text would be just more so like

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<v Speaker 6>giving context, so like wow, you're getting the things. Also

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<v Speaker 6>be on the lookout for it because it's like we

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<v Speaker 6>kind of need an answer right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. But to your point, the whole idea

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<v Speaker 3>of a B list is like if they're not there,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to ruin your day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I don't think it really matters how you

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<v Speaker 6>send it out. Well, yeah, because if they don't show up,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't really care. Otherwise they would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be on the A list and hopefully that's mutual too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like just like so many other things that and like

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about. I think maybe on one of our

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<v Speaker 2>past advice ones where it's like woman was asking about

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<v Speaker 2>how to make friends or something and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you just kind of you can't force some things,

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<v Speaker 2>and not everyone's going to be your best or one

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<v Speaker 2>of your twenty best friends or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to understand that.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say that the only way you I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's justified to be insulted is if you feel like

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<v Speaker 6>you're closer to the person and other people who are

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<v Speaker 6>on the A list.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you're if you're a definite A list for

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<v Speaker 2>that person in whatever scenario they're getting married. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough because it's like, well, sometimes it happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, sometimes you're probably rare, but sometimes someone in your

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<v Speaker 6>life you're better friends, at least in your mind you're

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<v Speaker 6>better friends with them than they are to you. Oh

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<v Speaker 6>have I ever told this story? This is the infamous

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<v Speaker 6>I call it. I think the firefly exchange firefly, that

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<v Speaker 6>amazing fly.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll make it really quick.

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<v Speaker 6>And we were camping out and there was this campsite

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<v Speaker 6>next to us, and this guy was introducing his friend

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<v Speaker 6>to the group and he said, Hey, this is like

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<v Speaker 6>one of my best friends, Manny.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't his name, but.

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<v Speaker 6>And the guy stopped him and he said, oh, we're

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<v Speaker 6>not best friends, we're kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, damn, maybe good acquaintances, but he it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was not a joke. He wasn't like trying to first

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<v Speaker 3>guy said.

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<v Speaker 1>The first guy said, best friend, one of my best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, the one of is doing heavy lifting.

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<v Speaker 2>At least, it's like invited, is correcting the main guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't a joke. It wasn't like yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>I could I could see that would be a funny joke.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, he was dead serious. What was the reaction,

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<v Speaker 3>It was like kind of silence.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but they're not gonna be good friends anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's definitely a B listen.

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<v Speaker 3>But but ye exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, so that one person, that guy maybe is

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<v Speaker 6>his best man, and then the other guy like he's

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<v Speaker 6>on the B list if invited at all. So there

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<v Speaker 6>are those situations where you're gonna have a different relationship

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<v Speaker 6>with the person than they maybe have with you, or

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<v Speaker 6>you rank them higher.

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<v Speaker 2>So much is based on the scale of the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah too, because like it is also easy when it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a smaller wedding to be like sorry, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>no space, it's only gonna be forty people.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, Well, let's give an official piece of advice for

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<v Speaker 1>this woman. I think she should do a B list

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<v Speaker 1>if it's gonna make her feel better. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that many people receiving the b Liss invite will be insulted.

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<v Speaker 1>If some of them are insulted.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think they're gonna be insulted, don't invite them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know, make your clear list of who

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<v Speaker 2>you'd need, your need to have, and then after that

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<v Speaker 2>have in your background. All right, if people fall out,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I'm gonna do, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>totally okay to do and try to do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you need to bump up the rs VP date

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<v Speaker 2>a little, hopefully to make that smoother, then I think

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<v Speaker 2>do so. I think people give way too much time

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<v Speaker 2>for r s VP. Great, it's because then we were

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for people to r VP that I knew were

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<v Speaker 2>going to come. It's like I'm texting people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months. It's like I know you're gonna like,

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<v Speaker 2>please just tell me, or like if you're not tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>because then I'd figure out something else.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, This one's like tangentially related. Okay, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>tough question for my favorite hot takers that I need

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<v Speaker 1>your hot takes on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you get married, is your allegiance to your spouse

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<v Speaker 1>or your family? For example, if your mom and wife

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<v Speaker 1>have issues, who's in the right?

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<v Speaker 2>How should you respond?

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<v Speaker 1>All my love to one of the best podcasts ever, Nicky,

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<v Speaker 1>Nice and simple, very simple. This one's This one's hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, obviously ideally you're in the middle, like

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<v Speaker 1>like that you're going in with a default, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to always agree with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>For the sake of the question. If you had to

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<v Speaker 2>choose one, what would you go with?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first of all, my mom has only met one

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<v Speaker 6>person I've been dating and they've never gotten in a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's kind of a classic American Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>People love to talk about it, but you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it's just my personal experience, but I haven't had

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<v Speaker 6>a ton of experience with like my mom's saying something

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<v Speaker 6>in the person, my partner is saying something else, and

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<v Speaker 6>like having the side between its you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a lot more once people have kids

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<v Speaker 2>and there's grandparents and they're fighting about there's more stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to figure bigger sticks.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I mean I think it's yeah to me

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<v Speaker 6>just in the abstract. I think it depends on what

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<v Speaker 6>the specifics of the conversation. I think this's weird, like

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<v Speaker 6>you have the you know your mom is your mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I don't really have you all

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<v Speaker 3>had experience with.

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<v Speaker 2>This, not really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm lucky that my family and me as family,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're all beta's, Like we're all just like whatever's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make whatever's gonna make this work the best.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think if you're in a scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Where there's like a real issue happening, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>you should try your best to be like a mediator

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<v Speaker 1>versus someone who's like, I gotta roll with my mom

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<v Speaker 1>on this one, or I gotta roll with my wife

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<v Speaker 1>because that's some allegiance that I have to have. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, you've married someone, you've set off on a

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<v Speaker 1>new life. You live with that person, you live with

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to make your family happy, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are with someone every day that's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>person who you want to lean towards in the event

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<v Speaker 1>there's like some kind of unsolvable issue.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're saying you lean towards your partner.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that is a general consensus, which is like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you chose me or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, what I hear people say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think i'd lean that way too, as far as

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<v Speaker 2>like in the immediate, like I've gotta lean towards this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna say, like, let's go easy on on

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<v Speaker 2>mom exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is this builds.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's like, all right now, thirty year whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of my life, they're just gonna hate each other, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or then the mom thinks, you know, here's this evil

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<v Speaker 2>wife taking me away or changing me. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>in the day to day you should lean with your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's like it's certainly not as

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<v Speaker 2>simple as like, oh my wife's always right, Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's always wrong, because that's what I chose to do

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we knew what Nicky's situation was. Nicky seems

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<v Speaker 1>like this might be happening in her life, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just a competitive situation as there's probably some

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<v Speaker 1>natural like from your parents or family, there's probably some

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<v Speaker 1>quite natural sentiments of we're seeing our son less often.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that probably hurts a little bit there, you might

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<v Speaker 1>and then they might be like trying to find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to hold on to what they do have left. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's you know, that probably happened when

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<v Speaker 1>they got married, Like this is kind of a natural

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<v Speaker 1>cycle of life.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like, Manny, you're similar my family and you

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<v Speaker 2>know my wife's family. It seems like the parents were

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<v Speaker 2>never I think, you know, at least, it's very much

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<v Speaker 2>a trope. It's like the very protective parents and to

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<v Speaker 2>be who want to be hating, like want to find

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<v Speaker 2>something wrong with the person, versus my family was the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite where they definitely wanted to like anyone and then

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<v Speaker 2>if there's flaws or something, that's the secondary issue, versus

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<v Speaker 2>the inverse, which is like like.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do with my son?

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<v Speaker 7>I know?

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<v Speaker 1>And like your face gets this guy married, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think that's the you know, a good thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone wants to get along versus like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I never liked her.

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be good yeah, good intentions, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be like it has to be

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<v Speaker 2>exactly my way, yata YadA, find some compromise position. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's kind of how I feel about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it feels like, you know, addressing what

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest fire. So just to use a tired analogy,

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<v Speaker 1>like you probably want to do the fire that's closest

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<v Speaker 1>to you, like well.

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<v Speaker 3>Day to day.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, put on your own mask before my mask around

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<v Speaker 6>you you're living with is your mask?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think that makes sense just

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<v Speaker 2>for your own survival. But everyone should try to get

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<v Speaker 2>along walking each other's shoes exactly, use another one. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's the biggest deterrent to understanding, like

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<v Speaker 2>solving some kind of problem is not being able to

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<v Speaker 2>see that person's perspective. Yeah, I feel like that would

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<v Speaker 2>go a long way, Nikki if you consider.

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<v Speaker 3>This, but don't, Yeah, don't go crazy. Be nice to

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<v Speaker 3>your mom, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The next question here is from Michael, who is wondering

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<v Speaker 1>whether his friends are being a little rude to him

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<v Speaker 1>when he asks them questions.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, Manny, Noah, Devin.

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<v Speaker 9>My name is Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>I am fifty three years old.

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<v Speaker 9>The reason I mentioned my age is because I wanted

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<v Speaker 9>to mention that I've been on the internet since about

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen ninety two. About fifteen years ago, we had a

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<v Speaker 9>big joke running around which was when you say to someone,

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<v Speaker 9>let me google that for you. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 9>you tell someone I need to do X, Y or

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<v Speaker 9>Z and they say I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>What why is and you say, well, let me google

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<v Speaker 8>that for you. And I've kind of a put down

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<v Speaker 8>out of style now. But now I am encountering something

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<v Speaker 8>new in this universe, and that is that I will

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<v Speaker 8>ask a question to my social circles, and more often

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<v Speaker 8>than not, what I'm getting now is someone giving me

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<v Speaker 8>a link to an artificial intelligence LLM engine or something

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<v Speaker 8>from kind of chat GBT or Google AI studio or

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<v Speaker 8>some other various engine.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm beginning to frankly feel insulted. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 9>I should check that as an insult, And so I

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<v Speaker 9>wonder if you guys have any comments about that from

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<v Speaker 9>your own human perspective. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's really funny. I think that you're right to

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<v Speaker 1>be insulted. The main reason being that CHATGBT and lms

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<v Speaker 1>get shit wrong all the time, so they're selling you

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<v Speaker 1>that you should just go to this machine to ask

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<v Speaker 1>this question, but the information is wrong. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to figure something out and you're asking someone who

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<v Speaker 1>might have some kind of knowledge about the issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they send you that link.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be insulted.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me say this, I think we're maybe missing the

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<v Speaker 6>larger thing at play here, And I will say I

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<v Speaker 6>used to be this person. I think we all to

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<v Speaker 6>some degree and our younger selves, we used to be

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<v Speaker 6>this person when we used to work together. We love

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<v Speaker 6>to say, like we would literally send each other let

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<v Speaker 6>me google it for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember this, Yeah, links when people would ask the question. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's degrees to this, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's people who ask questions for stuff that's

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<v Speaker 6>just like, my god, the amount of time that you

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<v Speaker 6>spent asking me this question, you could have just gotten

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<v Speaker 6>the answer. But what I've learned, you know, as I've

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<v Speaker 6>gotten older, is a lot of times it's not about

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<v Speaker 6>the question itself, exactly right. People are just trying. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>people ask questions all the time in conversation, and of

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<v Speaker 6>course they could just google and look up. But part

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<v Speaker 6>of it is like the conversation that you're having building

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<v Speaker 6>a bond with these people, So it's not about actually

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<v Speaker 6>finding the answer. It's like, Hey, I'm interested in this thing.

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<v Speaker 6>You guys want to talk about it. About this This is

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<v Speaker 6>my way into talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About it with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Total, that's what it sounds like where Michael's coming from exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I want to engage in a dialogue

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Yeah, here's my jumping off point.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't you know, we talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 6>AI in our day to day lives. I think we

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<v Speaker 6>blame a lot of stuff on AI. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>this is just like, like you said, this used to

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<v Speaker 6>people used to do this with Google.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just like the latest iteration.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a good point.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I think he should Michael, right, that's his name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe you should just be upfront and be like, hey, actually,

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>That would just be like what do you think? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about this? Obviously depends on what

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<v Speaker 2>the question is, Like if it is a fact check thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I do see why someone would be like like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what Scenarioo's talking about, but it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this thing online, Like is that true? That

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<v Speaker 2>could be something where it is like okay, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to just go on whether it's an AI thing or

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<v Speaker 2>like Snopes or whatever and see like is this real?

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<v Speaker 2>But it still is like what do you think or like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you know about this? Right, And that's the

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<v Speaker 2>human element of it, whether or not you can verify

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<v Speaker 2>this information already know the answer already, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you know about this? What can you bring

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<v Speaker 2>to this discussion we're having or I'm trying to have? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently nothing. They just send them. Yeah, yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 2>could see why someone would try to just send the link,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I think ultimately, like Devins saying, most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time, they're not going to you because you're expected

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<v Speaker 2>to be a you know, encyclopedic. Yeah, like you answer yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they want to know what you know and then see

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know later on if you need to,

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<v Speaker 2>then you can be like, all right, let's actually look

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<v Speaker 2>into this somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Elseeah, go to a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But there's also there is an added layer of dismissiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>like what we used to do is let me google that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you could be like you should google that,

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<v Speaker 1>or you say something along the lines, but sending the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is supposed to be an insult, so like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this guy is feeling insulted.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably in the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there are degrees to this, like you were saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people ask me like, you know, what time does

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<v Speaker 1>this store open or whatever, like what when's the game tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes I'm like, okay, you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>have just you know, check that yourself. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's easy to forget why someone would ask

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<v Speaker 1>a simple question like that, which is that they're just

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in human, regular human interaction. And if someone's asking

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<v Speaker 1>me what time is the New York Knicks game, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that is just the beginning of the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that we.

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<v Speaker 6>Were and maybe they want to see if you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to a bar and want to go with you. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I would think, Okay, what why is this person? If

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<v Speaker 6>you're receiving this, This is what I've started to do,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, over the last I feel like I've been

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<v Speaker 6>much better about this, being like why is this person

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<v Speaker 6>actually setting me this? Okay, before I give this like

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<v Speaker 6>dismissive response like you were saying earlier, many put myself

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<v Speaker 6>in their shoes. Yeah, and Okay, this person is asking

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<v Speaker 6>me about the game. Maybe they actually want to have

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<v Speaker 6>a conversation about it, so I can respond and maybe

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<v Speaker 6>add a little bit more detail about the game.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I mean I've I find myself doing

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<v Speaker 1>this too sometimes, where like recently I asked my cousin

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<v Speaker 1>when the college football playoffs are and then he sent

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<v Speaker 1>me He didn't send me let me google that. He

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<v Speaker 1>sent me like the official collegeball playoffs page. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized, oh, I could have easily just done that,

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<v Speaker 1>but subconsciously we were talking about football that I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when is that again?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think part of it is just like establishing

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<v Speaker 6>or re establishing like points of connection with people, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Like so much of our interactions nowadays are through stuff

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<v Speaker 6>like that, right, sending people links and like asking simple questions. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>It's like you may not see these people day to day,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's like just texting to ask a simple question

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<v Speaker 6>or send the link is like, oh okay, I'm keeping

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<v Speaker 6>in touch with this person in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>Why we talk about why, hey, the weather outside, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like small talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like why it's sometimes nice to go to a

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<v Speaker 2>store to get something that you could just as easily

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<v Speaker 2>or yeah again the next day or.

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<v Speaker 3>That later that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like sometimes it's nice to just do things.

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<v Speaker 2>See people I don't know, see the person of the

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<v Speaker 2>story is going to not make eye contact, totally ignore me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the worst thing is when someone will ask a

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<v Speaker 1>question that has been answered previously in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Just scroll up and get like we've talked about you,

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<v Speaker 2>like look two inches up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens so often.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Michael, I think you should feel

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<v Speaker 1>insulted because I think there's a little bit of intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>petty dismissive behavior when they're just sending you that link. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if if on your end you do you're just wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to start a conversation, I think you should tell them that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or just rephrase your question. Yeah, just say like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or whatever, like add whatever next step to it, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's the response we're getting, or beforehand, even like in

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<v Speaker 2>the initial question, yeah, or if you want to follow

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<v Speaker 2>this and be like, hey, the information on these ll

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<v Speaker 2>ms is really not accurate that so actually I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 1>You yeah, yeah, all right, after the break, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fielding a few more questions here from the

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<v Speaker 1>ns TEA hotline about milk hats and apartment Hallway etiquette.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, big fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm calling to ask your take on hat etiquette because

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<v Speaker 7>when I was a kid, my parents said it was

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<v Speaker 7>rude to wear a hat inside anywhere, including our house. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>when I go out with my friends as an adult

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<v Speaker 7>and I want to wear a hat, I ask them

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<v Speaker 7>can I wear a hat there?

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<v Speaker 10>And they always make fun of me.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, you can wear a hat anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you think is it rude to wear a

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<v Speaker 7>hat to some places or is it universally okay to

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<v Speaker 7>wear a hat out?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible that you you're asking people if you should

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<v Speaker 1>wear a hat somewhere. I mean, I guess like the

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<v Speaker 1>norms have changed since the nineteen fifties or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't been that. I'll think about it. In school,

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<v Speaker 3>you could wear a hat, Yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I think even in yeah, even in the last I

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<v Speaker 6>think since we've been in high school, it has changed,

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<v Speaker 6>because I do remember when we were in high school.

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<v Speaker 6>That was when things were starting to change, and it

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<v Speaker 6>was a similar thing of parents would be like, why

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<v Speaker 6>are you wearing your like place like Applebee's.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely remember the restaurant. Yeah, just like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a restaurant, you can't wearing a hat. Y.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really funny. I don't remember this as much.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it as like an old timey like in

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>What would always be it wouldn't be peer to peer,

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<v Speaker 6>would be parents. Yea, how I was encountered with parents

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<v Speaker 6>being like, you shouldn't be wearing And also I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's different like what I learned, who was different between

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<v Speaker 6>men and women to wear hats and a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I had only read this the voice text.

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<v Speaker 2>I assumed it was a man asking just because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the context of what I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>That still where it's like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy in a baseball cap basically, yeah, not like a

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<v Speaker 1>woman with a woman in a hat.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, when I think you usually get a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>more leeway with this alshow like, you know, usually they're

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<v Speaker 6>putting on a hat, they have some sort of hairstyle

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<v Speaker 6>taking off the hat.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's a good beep, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Much more part of their look than like I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>out and throwing on my you know, yeah ace cap

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Right, Obviously, it is highly dependent on the

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<v Speaker 1>exact scenario, but yeah, I do not. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's rude to wear hats inside today.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in ninety nine for someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's wearing a hat car Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think for especially for women, for ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 6>of the places that you're going to be, you can

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<v Speaker 6>wear a hat if you're you know, if you work

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<v Speaker 6>at Goldman Sachs, and I think maybe you can't wear

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<v Speaker 6>a hat.

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<v Speaker 2>I think uniform more than rudeness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. I think like the places you can't wear

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<v Speaker 3>a hat, it's pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the places you can't wear a hat? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I would like a really up restaurant maybe, like

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<v Speaker 2>and even that, like women can wear hats a church

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<v Speaker 2>if you're wearing a church hat.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't show up in a baseball cap to church.

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<v Speaker 6>But if it's if it's appropriate to what you're wearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even in funerals, like people wear those hats, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what I'm kind of picturing. But yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for restaurants, I feel like even I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really wear caps that often now, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>used to. Actually I would take it off when I

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<v Speaker 2>was sat down at a restaurant. Yeah, not like I

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>wasn't worried I was going to get reprimended, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like out of habit almost.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I think I'm I'm probably still going to take

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 2>it off, just because I don't really like sitting around

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>in a hat. Usually I think I think about it

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<v Speaker 2>less because I'm like, oh, yeah, it's kind of normal

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder where the caller is from, because I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>this is more of a thing in the South. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a clip that went viral after a football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick just lost his like millionth game at North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and the coach, the coaches of the opposing teams always

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>revere him so much that like they want to go

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>meet him after the game even though they just destroyed him.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy's running up to Bill Belichick and to

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<v Speaker 1>greet him. He takes his hat off to shake his

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<v Speaker 1>hand because in the greeting it's kind of rude, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to wear your hat. And I just wonder, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in the South, if it's a little bit she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not from the South, not basically or really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she doesn't live in the South. Maybe she's from

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the South. You're supposed to take off your hat during

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the anthem. Yeah, and that's definitely gone away.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, for sure, whenever we go to nets games,

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<v Speaker 1>I do see people taking their hats sometimes. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think you know, unfortunately this is a

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<v Speaker 1>gendered conversation. I think women definitely keep.

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<v Speaker 3>The hat on wherever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, now, your friends are making fun of you when

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<v Speaker 1>you ask, I think that's fair, don't You don't need

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to ask that question if.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going out to a kind of normal restaurant, not

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<v Speaker 2>like something, Yeah, if you were at my wedding wearing

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball cap, I'd be like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But if we're just going out to dinner at

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<v Speaker 2>like a non insanely fancy place where if it's a

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 2>place where you don't need to have like a jacket on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're pretty much good.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say a lot of fancy restaurants nowadays, like

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<v Speaker 6>people will Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to me and Julia went to a like steakhouse,

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<v Speaker 2>not like a super nice one, but like Gage and

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Torner kind of old school steakhouse. And like we weren't

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>like dressed up, but like people are there in shorts

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and a T shirts. Yeah, and it's like I was like, okay,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like you know, it's fun to or whatever. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you can really wear whatever, and no one's

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<v Speaker 2>like batting an eye. It's not like I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>by her question can I wear a hat?

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<v Speaker 3>There?

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<v Speaker 2>She's really asking like what is how nice?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, another way to ask. Yeah,

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, not like I need to wear a hat.

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<v Speaker 2>But put the hat on. Girl, you don't do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, just do what you want, do what makes

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable. Your friends are clowning on you, but

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it's in good spirit. I think you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>ask if you can wear a hat anywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>The next question on the NST Hotline is about milk. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>guys love the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an international listener here from London. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask is drinking milk, specifically cow's milk as an adult

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<v Speaker 1>gross and why do people think it is? This girl

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dating finds it gross that I regularly drink milk,

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<v Speaker 1>and even worse that I'm a fan of skimmed milk.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>We call it red milk in the UK. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>lactose intolerant or vegan, which might be why some adults

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>find it gross. However, I feel like drinking milk is

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>good for you, and ninety nine percent of people enjoyed

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it early on in life as a children. The famous Yeah,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>so why the massive drop in popularity. Most people still

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.959
<v Speaker 1>enjoy sweets. I feel like there might not be an

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>objective answer here, but it does spark strong feelings. Whenever

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I say I drink milk, he's just going proclaiming that

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>around I say I drink milk, even in non vegan

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>or lack I drink milk intolerant circles.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully this is interesting.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>It is the longest email I've ever written, wow about milk.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that from and this is from Tony. All right,

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you're asking the right group of guys, because I am

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>someone who also enjoys a nice cold glass of any milk. Really,

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>but whole milk is really?

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<v Speaker 3>What does it for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I will say there are you know, I don't drink

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>it as much in my adult life, but when I

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>go back home and I'm with my parents and stuff

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and they've got the milk in there, I'm definitely drinking.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>So your parents keep it stocked, They keep it socks. Yeah,

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they keep it socks but it's for like their coffee

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and like that. But when I go in there, they

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>always make fun because I'm wrecking their supply. Do you

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>two think that drinking milk is gross by itself? I

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it, but I don't think it's gross.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you don't drink milk by itself. No,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I am actually lactose in topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a good reason. But you don't think it's gross.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Like Tony's friends, it doesn't like gross me out.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>It's just not for me.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it would be unusual if I went to

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>like my friend's placed for dinner and they were pouring milk.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what if I was what if you guys came

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>over and I was like, would you guys like a

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>glass of milk?

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I find it strange.

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I could see it though, if it is like in

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 2>a kind of dessert, yeah, scenario and like instead of

0:32:59.000 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>coffee or something.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 2>So wait to be clear, you don't think it's gross,

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>but you do think it's strange.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 3>It's unusual. Yeah, at this point in our lives, it's true.

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I have a weird thing with milk.

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<v Speaker 6>It's disgusting, like the fact that I was just talking

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 6>about it and it's making me feel.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>A little bit sick. And have you always felt this one?

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 3>I used to drink chocolate milk when I was younger,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 3>like the where you pour the syrup in, yeah, which

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>was the one where yeah, you get syrup in the

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>fridge and you put it in. There's that yeah, or

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a powder powder. I like the syrup one. I

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>never used the powder.

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>The syrup is it is better or it's like chocolate,

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>it's more chocolate, more chocolate.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 3>So I would do that as a kid. Yeah, I

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>haven't had.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 6>I think if we had a glass of milk right

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 6>here and you said I have to drink it, I

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 6>think I would actually throw up.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 3>And it's not like a tolerance thing at all.

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like milkshakes. Oh yeah, wait, you're a milkshake head.

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 6>I love milkshakess are great. Like I put fake milk

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 6>in my smoothies like an almond or yeah, if I

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 6>had regular, like I could put regular in it and

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 6>I would be fine.

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>The idea.

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 6>I think the issue with me, if with milk, is

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 6>the consistency of it, Like something doesn't like score up

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 6>in my head of just like it's not quite liquidy enough.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 6>It's not as liquid as like a water, but it's

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 6>not milkshake consistency. It's like somewhere in between.

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if you would prefer skim or whole. It's wick.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Skim milk is kind of like skim is straight up water.

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I haven't. That's like I said, I

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 3>haven't had a full glass of milk.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Then you then you'll get back off the train.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 6>So I would think that if if I was dating

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 6>someone who was drinking full glasses of milk with dinner,

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 6>I would it would make me a little bit sick.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Not you know, I'm not that guy usually, but that

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 3>milk does it for me.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>As far as the health impacts of milk, I feel

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 2>like there was it was literally like the dairy hobbies. Yeah,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it was never as good for our bones as they

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>made it sound. Yeah, I don't think it's bad for

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you by anymore. But I don't think it's like I'm

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>sure this is this thing of like you need to

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>drink milk or else.

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>You're not going to grow. It's a great market.

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Granted I'm short saying this, but yeah, it was like

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 3>You can get those nuns from all places. Yeah, we can.

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.479
<v Speaker 2>We'll put some links in the in the newsletter, of course.

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 6>About since we don't know this, you know what my

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 6>advice would be, Yeah, don't put it in the glass.

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't want to see that you're drinking.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I used to hide it.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Put it in put another container that I can tell,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the mug or a thermos.

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I literally used to do this so people wouldn't be

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like they would walk by, like, are you drinking milk?

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if you put it in something else, you know, none,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 6>don't ask, don't tell, don't ask, don't tell. You don't

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 6>need to be out here telling people you're drinking milk,

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 6>all right, so let's keep that on the on the

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:56.399
<v Speaker 6>hush hush.

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember my brother worked for President Chris Murphy years ago,

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 2>and he would drink mountain dew every morning, but he'd

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 2>put in a coffee mug.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you the same reason. Yeah, I would be like,

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to support you in any election if

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I see it there a bottle of at eight a

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>m Yeah. Hell no.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I can confirm that the idea that milk drinking milk

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>is weird is probably the consensus.

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I did go viral for adults, Yeah, for sure.

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I posted a photo of me putting my milk in

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a mug so that people at one couldn't see what

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it was, and then it kind of it went crazy online,

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 1>people calling me, discussing people who I know and love. Yeah,

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you put some people on the b list for the

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Way based on that interaction fifteen years ago. So I'm

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>certainly sympathetic to Tony's position. I say, do do what

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you enjoy, maybe consider putting it in a mug sometimes

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>if it's really a problem to your partner.

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:52.919
<v Speaker 3>To me, you don't need to be telling other people

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 3>you're doing this all right.

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 6>Your partner knows, but the fact that they're just going

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 6>out in interacting with people. Yeah, the consensus is not

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 6>if you're trying to win people over, it's not the

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 6>way to do it.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever ordered milk at a restaurant? No, I

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think I would love to see that. I've bet someplace.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I bet like a diner. You could, Yeah, I doubt

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>like most restaurants would be able to. Now, sometimes I'll

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>get coffee and you know they'll give you milk on

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 2>the side. You just you just drink it a couple

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>on a couple of occasions, I'll pour it into my coffee.

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>There's not that much room there. I don't know why

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they give you so much milk, and then there's a

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 1>lot of excess milk.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 3>So you'll drink the coffee and then put the rest

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>of it in.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I drink it wrong, oh man, straight from the

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>straight from the teat?

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Would you drink breast milk?

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Why not?

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 2>From who.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 8>In a jar?

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>You're Are you saying that it's the same like the

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>cow's milk.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 3>If you know you're about to have a kid. I

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>don't know what MIA's plans are for.

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna breastfeed.

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, nice, I'll be there. Yeah, hey, hold on out

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 3>of the way.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Something for me.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You got enough six pounds?

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.919
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of my wife. We have one more question from

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the NST hotline, and it's from Mia.

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 10>Hey, NST, I have a question about hallway etiquette. So

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 10>I was in the Netherlands recently, staying in a four

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 10>floor walk up, and every floor I walked past had

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 10>just so many shoes outside, like an art installation of shoes,

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 10>Like some of them were organized towers. Some of them

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 10>were just spelling out everywhere, and it reminded me of

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 10>a conversation that Manny and I had about our hallway.

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 10>We do have a shoe dresser and a bench, but

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 10>we keep it as neat as we can. Anyway hallway etiquette,

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 10>what's okay and what isn't.

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>As you know, in New York City, very limited apartment space,

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and so in our in the heart, yeah, say your

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>piece in our hallway space, Uh, there's a little bit

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of space to use that would not block someone from

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>going upstairs or to their apartment. So we have a

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>shoe shelf in there, and we have a bench so

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that you can like sit down and put the shoes on.

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 3>And so in this.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Scenario, I guess if a neighbor of mine had a complaint,

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I would feel a little bit like, Okay, well, this

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't blocking you from getting upstairs, and we keep ours

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>very neat as much as we can.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people don't, and.

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>So I would think in that specific scenario, this guy's overreacting.

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>But how do you guys feel about this? What are

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>your experiences with people putting their shoes and stuff in

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the hallways of the apartment buildings?

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm hardline. The hall is for everyone. There shouldn't be

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 2>anything out there. Mm at most leave a wet umbrella

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and like your dirty pair of boots while they're drying off.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think once we start adding stuff, its what, Yeah,

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 2>there's there's no there's no limit because it's like, Okay,

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you might say, well I just have one pair of

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>shoes and my wife has one pair of shoes. We're

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>now what if someone with three kids comes and now

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I all have two pairs of shoes out there? We're

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>adding furniture and artwork. It's like, even if I can

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>walk by, it's a little bit like where does it end?

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's kind of like you just got you

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 2>have too many shoes. If you can't keep the stuff

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>in your apartment, I'm sorry you have too many We

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>already we all know we have too many things, material

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>objects in our lives, and so maybe think you know,

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I live in New York too, there's not a lot

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of space. I understand my closets are jam packed, but

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>it should instead of now putting your stuff outside, you

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>should be thinking what can I do without?

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 3>How can I do without?

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 3>So that's it. I'm sorry.

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 2>But that's that's how I feel. Now I've I've just

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>been to apartments and I see, you know, you do

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 2>keep it neat. Your stuff's not in the way many

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and other people do. But then it's like, okay, well

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>now i'll put this box out here. I'll put you know,

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.879
<v Speaker 2>my skis and my golf clubs. Because no one's walking

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>past here. It's like, it's kind of not about that.

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 5>To me.

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, that's not your space. Yeah, and it

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't just be overflown because it's the sort of thing

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 2>where if everyone did.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 3>That, yeah, it's chaos.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Ye, that's a completely understandable take. I disagree with it,

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>but I think it makes sense. We try to do

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>we try to make sure we're not using it as

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like extended storage.

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>It's more like what is the ship you need when

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>you're on your way out of there?

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>But you are why definite because it's not your apartments,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's extended storage.

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's not like boxes of stuff. Sure, yes,

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what I meant.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 3>We're not. I'm not.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't write about storage space for the items in

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>my hallway. So it feels like if it's like so

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, we have a problem with our coats. There's

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>nowhere to put our coats in our apartment, and sometimes

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>New York City apartments of course they're all small, but

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's actually not closets and.

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 6>So like, yeah, I literally don't have closses. You have closets,

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 6>So explain to me why you don't have space for

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 6>your coats.

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 4>We have.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>We have one closet that's in our kind of like office,

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>so that's a lot of office stuff in there, so

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there's no room for the coats. There is a closet

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>upstairs where we have coats, but we're not to coat

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that many. Now I'm thinking about getting a coat or

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a little thing on the you know you walk in

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>on the wall. We have one of those as well.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we just have place we need to put.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>You need to choose your seasonal coach, and the rest

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 2>need to be packed away. Well, look, hold on a second.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>The coats are not outside, relaxed, They're they're about to

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>be coats outside.

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Exactly what I'm talking about. He's thinking about it.

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I was about to say, what Noah's making sense. No,

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense in that we have too much ship.

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you got to get rid of some of the stuff, yes,

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>before we attack you. But yeah, I basically think like,

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>so I've I've lived in places too where other people

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>have their ship outside, and I'm always someone like, if

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not blocking me, I really don't give a ship. Now,

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys, I've seen the examples in your apartment for example.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean that's horror, horrifying.

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 3>So this is hate.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I hate to be I hate that this person is

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>representing you, my very eyes, the hallway packery.

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 3>This is not all hallways. This is how we had

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 3>to evolve. Because I was before.

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 6>I was a little bit lenient too, But over the

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 6>last couple of weeks, my neighbors have gotten very bold.

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 6>So the apartment next to me, they've gone through a

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 6>couple of iterations to this. The first iteration was they

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 6>just had the shoes all over the floor. The first

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 6>door to get into that little apartment is closer to

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 6>their apartment, so you open the door and there's your

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 6>shoes all over the place. Okay, that was pretty terrible.

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 6>Then they get they got you know, they got their

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 6>ship together a little bit. They got a shoe rack.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that was a little bit better. Now there's

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.399
<v Speaker 3>so much shoes. The shoes are on the shoe act

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.479
<v Speaker 3>and on the floor, spilling, spilling out onto the floor.

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 2>No one's wearing that many shoes that frequently.

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, this is every shoe day, every is out there.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 6>Then over the last week or two they put this giant,

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 6>ugly piece of artwork, huge, huge, and the thing is too.

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 6>What really bothers me about it is that there's a

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 6>small window in the door where you go, you know,

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 6>to go into that little vegetable and you could see

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 6>that all you see is the damn artwork in the

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 6>window now and then okay, representing you now yeah, now

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 6>now it looks like that's my ship.

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but even worse.

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 6>All right, So it's bad enough they got their shoes

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 6>all over the place. Once you get within that door,

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's blocking the floor.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 3>They got the artwork.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm trying to get my dog, you know,

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 6>to wipe his feet, put his flee Shawn. He's like

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 6>stepping all over those shoes.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 3>He's confused where you want.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Me to stand, to be clear, I find this offense

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy.

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 6>And then every other day they're adding something new out there,

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, okay, there, so they're treating it like really,

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 6>I know we're talking about man and his shoes, but

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 6>they're truly treating this like storage.

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>This is where they're cleaning stuff.

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 3>This is like a closet now, and there's a closet

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>and it just doesn't look good.

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.439
<v Speaker 1>If the thing that I'm keeping out there wasn't there,

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>would you be able to get to your apartment?

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Would you? Would you?

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 4>I hear you?

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's where I originally landed.

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just like, I also, yeah that mainly, And

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I also think it's like, you know what, I think

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of fair to not want to see random

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 2>stuff in the hall.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I think, whether that's artwork or just other stuff.

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Like the guy below me is a little eccentric for

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 2>other reasons, but sometimes he'll just have like fishing poles

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 2>out there for like days, and it's like, and is

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that like like hanging up a guitar like this is

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just like, I mean, they're both bad. It's like

0:45:56.440 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a pail of fishing rods interesting because they're wet. I

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 2>don't get it. I don't know why, but like I said,

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>this guy's yeah, this guy's like, well, I don't know

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.439
<v Speaker 2>this guy's doing something, but it's like and I'm walking

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>by it, I'm just like, I don't really.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like ugly. Yeah, now that the building is so beautiful.

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 2>That is one.

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the one part I do understand, where like this

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>is a common it's your taste, you're what you like art,

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>shoes and shit.

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind. It's like as long as I'm not

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 2>touching it.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And then even with shoes, I'm kind of like I

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>understand why some people would like not want to see

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>it that I don't care nearly as much about if

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not in your way.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like if someone's going to be annoyed, I'm like, yeah.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel.

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm going they need to keep it restrained your shoes,

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 6>and the shoes need to be in some sort of

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 6>container or rap.

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at least one out of us.

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm hardline in the support legislation that yeah banned. I

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>just think it's it's the best solution to me, and

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, think about what you actually need.

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I reiterate that's fair.

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm I'm gonna you know, I'm here, I hear

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys. I'm gonna continue using my space the way

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 2>If I get things are gonna change, I'm ready to

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the mayor.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if we now, if the.

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Landlord was like, get your shit inside, obviously I would listen.

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And our uh, our neighbor doesn't seem to carry us

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and said anything, and he has some stuff.

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll listen to your neighbors podcast.

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, maybe he's got maybe he's complaining.

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 3>He's strobably coming at two pm after this.

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, that does it for the No Such Thing

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Hotline this time, But since it's holiday season, stick around

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>after the break for the No Such Thing Gift Guide

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty five. Welcome to the gift guide portion

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of today's episode. Noah, I'm gonna start with you.

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll start broadly and then I'll point you to one

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>specific item. Okay, it's that's helpful for all of our listeners.

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I think a nice board game is a good gift

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 2>because it's inoffensive and there's a wide range. You can

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>easily get one for less than fifteen dollars. I'd say,

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>even with the tariffs, you can go you know, kind

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 2>of mid scale hit the nice you know, let's say

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty to sixty range, and if you're a real you know,

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 2>real head, you can probably you know, get a nice

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>chest set that's you know, in the hundreds thousands. One

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 2>in particular that I like, you can buy from the

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 2>MoMA design store. It's a backgammon set. It looks very

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 2>sleek and modern, bright colors. Don't ask me how much

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it costs. I'm not sure anymore.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 3>But do you own this? I bought it for someone.

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so it's a gift you've done before and

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 3>you do it again, and I stand by.

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.879
<v Speaker 2>I haven't gotten any negative feedback on the one person

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 2>you bought it for. Yeah, godden positive feedback at the

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 2>time anyway.

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, has it been touched? Not my problem?

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>God, that's okay. Yeah, I want to say it's probably

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 2>in the forty to fifty dollars range.

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll link to it.

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll link to it obviously in the sub stack.

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think it's nice because it's it's kind

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 2>of you can have it as a decorative piece somewhere.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.399
<v Speaker 2>You don't really need to play it obviously holiday season.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 3>It's nice.

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully there's people around you can play a game with

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 2>fun for the whole family, et cetera.

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>I haven't played backgammon.

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's kind of checkers, like, Oh okay, I

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 2>like checkers more than chess, though, yeah, it's like a

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 2>little bit more complicated than checkers, less complicated than chess,

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 2>right up my alley, Yeah exactly, all right, Well checkers easy,

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 2>chess can't be bothered to learn. Yeahaha, sounds like the

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 2>right move less some strategic I think. And you can

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 2>probably just resell this easily if you don't like it,

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 2>go to.

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 3>You, no harm, no foul.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all right, Devin, I'm gonna cheat a little bit.

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 6>I've kind of took my like real real gift is

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 6>I think you know, we don't have no such thing

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 6>plus yet, but I think it would be great if

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 6>you know someone likes a podcast, to buy them a

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 6>subscription to it, right, because it's one of those things

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 6>that like is kind of annoying to have to buy yourself.

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 6>But if your friend, say, is really in the search engine,

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 6>you get them search Engine Plus I don't know what

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 6>it's called incognito mode, and then they get to listen

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 6>to the show with no ads for a year. You're supporting,

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, independent people making art.

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a good price for a gift too. Exactly because

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not like crazy, No, it's also like the it's

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 2>just the amount of money that you might not want

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to spend exactly for yourself, but someone gave it to you.

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, are you talking a year subscription? Yeah, year subscription,

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 1>because it's going to be like fifty sixty.

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, I just got my hyper fixed whatever subscription

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 6>renewed is forty dollars for the year.

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Not bad.

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 6>Forty dollars for a gift, pretty good anything that someone

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 6>would actually use dead day. So remember that in a

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 6>couple months when we start, no such thing. Plus, so

0:50:58.120 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 6>you can subscribe.

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a really good gift. I mean I might do

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 2>this actually see really thoughtful.

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but my actual gift is a little bit more

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 6>heartfelt and it takes a lot more work, but it's

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 6>a good gift.

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm out listening.

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 6>We need to bring back the mixtape, but not in

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 6>a Spotify playlist, but I'm talking about and I've done this,

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 6>you know a couple of times.

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 8>Now.

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 6>You make a it's almost like a DJ set, right,

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 6>It's one you do one track and you make it

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 6>about I'll give you forty five minutes to an hour

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 6>long of music. You select what songs. You don't have

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<v Speaker 6>to play all the songs front the bat. Sure, it's

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<v Speaker 6>like you're curating a specific DJ set for one.

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<v Speaker 3>Person and you're doing this yourself. I've done it, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>many times. Wow, I like to have fun with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bring in like some YouTube clips.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, it's always there's a great who's Kevin

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<v Speaker 6>Gates has some incredible quotes.

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<v Speaker 3>He has just like quote about like licking his dog

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<v Speaker 3>in the mouth, Like you put that over some music.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's like you can really like curate it

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<v Speaker 3>for a specific person.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing this on a particular program or yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I usually do it in the way premiere. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>could do it in Adobe edition.

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<v Speaker 6>If you don't know how to use audio editing programs,

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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna be a little bit tougher for.

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<v Speaker 3>You, but you can do it. I bet there's some

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<v Speaker 3>apps to that can kind of do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Hates a good Devin props, but these are two bangor gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>Was my go to UH gift when I was in

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Great ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice many All right, So there's this there's this stock

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<v Speaker 1>in the stock market. Game stop gmmy, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, So my my.

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<v Speaker 2>First gift, I was like, all right, it's not financial advice.

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<v Speaker 1>So my gift is earplugs. And this is specific, specific

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<v Speaker 1>brand that I've really come to love. They're called Loops.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kind of like designer ear plugs, but don't be

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of the word designer. They're probably forty to fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have tonightis like I don't know if New

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<v Speaker 1>York City made it worse or it just gets worse

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<v Speaker 1>as I get older, but like my ears are ringing

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and I think actually most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize how much their ears are getting attacked on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis. So what Loops has done is they've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's different versions you can buy. I bought the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are that are called switch loop switch, where

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<v Speaker 1>you can filter how many decibels are being blocked.

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<v Speaker 3>Expensive, that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Is fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those are on the way right now to my.

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<v Speaker 1>Wife, Oh really, the lost yeah, that one problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that they're so easy to lose. So I am on

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<v Speaker 1>my third pair. But the switches, yeah, those are more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive but just like super useful, like even when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at a cafe by myself, like I'll throw them in

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<v Speaker 1>and you start to realize, like how much your ears

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<v Speaker 1>are just getting violated all day?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's lated, it's a much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a much more calming experience. The cheaper ones, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want to block everything out, they have

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<v Speaker 1>like the versions that don't switch. Those are like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks every movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I put them in.

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<v Speaker 6>I do it at concerts. Now, Manny, you've got you

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<v Speaker 6>converted me to be a loopshead, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wear them nearly every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've got someone in your life you think

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<v Speaker 1>is who might they also have? Like sleeping versions. I

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<v Speaker 1>bought some recently. I haven't tried them out yet, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they they are. It's a quality of life upgrade for your.

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<v Speaker 2>Loved ones and Loops.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, please sponsor meds.

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<v Speaker 7>Thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No such thing as a production of Kaleidoscope content. Our

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<v Speaker 1>executive producers are Kate Osborne and Mangesh hot To Cadur.

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<v Speaker 1>The show was created by Mandy Fidel No Freedoman and

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Joseph. The theme songs are by Me Manny, and

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<v Speaker 1>mixing is done by Steve Bone. Thank you to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's sent us questions for this NST Hotline episode. If

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