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Speaker 1: We'll be giving advice about B list wedding invites, whether

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Speaker 1: All right, I think let's start with this question about

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Speaker 5: Hey, Manny, Noah, and Devin. I'm a longtime listener of

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Speaker 5: the podcast. I had kind of a weird question. I'll

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Speaker 5: just jump right into it. I'm engaged and getting married

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Speaker 5: next year, and we are currently in the phases of

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Speaker 5: narrowing down our guest list. We obviously have an a

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Speaker 5: list people we need to be there, but we also

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Speaker 5: if space opened up. We were chatting it that was

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Speaker 5: appropriate to have a B list wedding invite list of

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Speaker 5: other friends that we would love to see again if

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Speaker 5: the space opened up. My friend under saying it would

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Speaker 5: my question, in short, is is it appropriate to have

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Speaker 5: a B list of wedding invites at your own wedding?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So despite the fact that I am married, I've not

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Speaker 1: I just want to get your take on this. Did

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Speaker 2: No, because we really only did one round of invites,

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Speaker 2: of course, Like she says, it's like, all right, you

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Speaker 2: well who else, Like who are the friends we would invite?

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Speaker 3: Are there work people, whatever?

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Speaker 2: We didn't have a bee where we didn't do two rounds.

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Speaker 2: it's okay to do. I think anyone who's going to

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Speaker 2: B list. Like within your friend groups, there are people

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Speaker 2: not invited to my wedding. That's limited, like if I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's cool. So similarly, if I received an

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Speaker 1: If I got an invite that was like two months

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Speaker 1: There were a couple of weddings in my life that

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Speaker 2: It was like I was immediately like, all right.

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Speaker 2: As I think, it's like they can maybe avoid this

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Speaker 3: It's like it's not free.

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Speaker 2: It's like and now it's like, now, great, so this

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Speaker 2: if you can't make it because of that, yeah, i'll

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: What I thought when I first heard this is what

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Speaker 3: That's you know, that's especially what it is.

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Speaker 6: Talking a lot about. But we're doing a lot of

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Speaker 6: like okay, behind closed door stuff. What if you were

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Speaker 6: really upfront with people and you sent out to save

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Speaker 3: Love to have you there, save the date because limited

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Speaker 6: We you know, if things open, if some family close

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Speaker 2: Make it, that's more than that's more.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the way.

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to save this day a year from now

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Speaker 2: and you know, prime maybe prime travel time and be.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh well what if what if they can't make it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to be surprised with an invite,

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Speaker 1: And then it's like it's up to me if I

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Speaker 3: You'd rather not know ahead of time and have a

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Speaker 2: Because the B List one, it's like no pressure that

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Speaker 2: you know, inviter can't get mad if I can't make

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Speaker 2: it on shorter notice, it's like, well, no one, neither

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Speaker 3: I think it's the same expectations, right, Like, if.

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Speaker 2: I'm sending you a B List invite, I don't really

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I always have the same expectations,

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Speaker 3: Even if you got the note earlier, I think you're

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Speaker 2: But I'm thinking the way better.

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Like you go on a website, it seems like a

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Speaker 1: like dice FM that music tickets thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Take it, but we'll text you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you get a couple of hours before.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or like Rezie, I like your suggestion of doing

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Speaker 3: Like it's not like I mean, that's just good advice

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Speaker 3: no matter what. Yeah, you get your number locked in.

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Speaker 6: Okay, say you're sending the B list, you even say

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Speaker 6: anything in your scenario, do you say what you just said?

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Speaker 3: You just open up or do you just send it

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Speaker 3: like it's normal. I think I sent in.

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Speaker 2: I think if it was someone like like someone in

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Speaker 2: we text and like I like seeing him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he's someone I could.

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Speaker 2: Have seen making it on that B list. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: think for him I would have texted because one he

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Speaker 3: Yeah too, So him.

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Speaker 2: I would probably send the invite and then I like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're sending a thing like YadA YadA other people. I'm

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't text, but I could see just sending it

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Speaker 6: I think the text would be just more so like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. But to your point, the whole idea

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Speaker 3: of a B list is like if they're not there,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to ruin your day. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I don't think it really matters how you

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Speaker 6: send it out. Well, yeah, because if they don't show up,

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Speaker 3: Be on the A list and hopefully that's mutual too.

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Speaker 2: Like just like so many other things that and like

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Speaker 2: like you just kind of you can't force some things,

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Speaker 2: and not everyone's going to be your best or one

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Speaker 3: You have to understand that.

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Speaker 6: I would say that the only way you I think

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Speaker 6: it's justified to be insulted is if you feel like

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Speaker 6: you're closer to the person and other people who are

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Speaker 2: Like if you're if you're a definite A list for

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Speaker 2: it's tough because it's like, well, sometimes it happens.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes you're probably rare, but sometimes someone in your

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Speaker 6: life you're better friends, at least in your mind you're

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Speaker 6: better friends with them than they are to you. Oh

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Speaker 6: have I ever told this story? This is the infamous

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Speaker 6: I call it. I think the firefly exchange firefly, that

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Speaker 6: amazing fly.

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Speaker 3: I'll make it really quick.

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Speaker 6: And we were camping out and there was this campsite

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Speaker 6: And the guy stopped him and he said, oh, we're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't really have you all

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Speaker 2: This, not really.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm lucky that my family and me as family,

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Speaker 2: And then it's like, all right now, thirty year whatever,

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, Manny, you're similar my family and you

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Speaker 1: And like your face gets this guy married, So I

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Speaker 3: Day to day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, put on your own mask before my mask around

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Speaker 8: What why is and you say, well, let me google

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Speaker 1: This one's really funny. I think that you're right to

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Speaker 6: You guys want to talk about it. About this This is

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Speaker 6: AI in our day to day lives. I think we

443
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Speaker 6: blame a lot of stuff on AI. But I think

444
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Speaker 6: this is just like, like you said, this used to

445
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Speaker 6: people used to do this with Google.

446
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Speaker 3: This is just like the latest iteration.

447
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Speaker 2: Of a good point.

448
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think he should Michael, right, that's his name. Yeah,

449
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 6: maybe you should just be upfront and be like, hey, actually,

450
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Speaker 6: I just want to talk about this.

451
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Speaker 2: That would just be like what do you think? Yeah,

452
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Speaker 2: what do you think about this? Obviously depends on what

453
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Speaker 2: the question is, Like if it is a fact check thing,

454
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Speaker 2: I do see why someone would be like like, I

455
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Speaker 2: don't know what Scenarioo's talking about, but it's like, Okay,

456
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Speaker 2: I saw this thing online, Like is that true? That

457
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Speaker 2: could be something where it is like okay, I need

458
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Speaker 2: to just go on whether it's an AI thing or

459
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Speaker 2: like Snopes or whatever and see like is this real?

460
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Speaker 2: But it still is like what do you think or like,

461
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Speaker 2: what do you know about this? Right, And that's the

462
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Speaker 2: human element of it, whether or not you can verify

463
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Speaker 2: this information already know the answer already, it's like, well,

464
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Speaker 2: what do you know about this? What can you bring

465
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Speaker 2: to this discussion we're having or I'm trying to have? Yeah,

466
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: apparently nothing. They just send them. Yeah, yeah, so I

467
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Speaker 2: could see why someone would try to just send the link,

468
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Speaker 2: but yeah, I think ultimately, like Devins saying, most of

469
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Speaker 2: the time, they're not going to you because you're expected

470
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Speaker 2: to be a you know, encyclopedic. Yeah, like you answer yeah,

471
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Speaker 2: they want to know what you know and then see

472
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Speaker 2: and then you know later on if you need to,

473
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Speaker 2: then you can be like, all right, let's actually look

474
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Speaker 2: into this somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Elseeah, go to a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's also there is an added layer of dismissiveness,

477
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Speaker 1: like what we used to do is let me google that.

478
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Speaker 1: It's like you could be like you should google that,

479
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Speaker 1: or you say something along the lines, but sending the

480
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Speaker 1: thing is supposed to be an insult, so like, yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: you know, this guy is feeling insulted.

482
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Speaker 2: He's probably in the right.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there are degrees to this, like you were saying, like,

484
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Speaker 1: sometimes people ask me like, you know, what time does

485
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Speaker 1: this store open or whatever, like what when's the game tonight?

486
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Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'm like, okay, you could you could

487
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Speaker 1: have just you know, check that yourself. But yeah, I

488
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Speaker 1: think it's it's easy to forget why someone would ask

489
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Speaker 1: a simple question like that, which is that they're just

490
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Speaker 1: engaging in human, regular human interaction. And if someone's asking

491
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Speaker 1: me what time is the New York Knicks game, maybe

492
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Speaker 1: that that's that is just the beginning of the conversation

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Speaker 1: that we.

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Speaker 6: Were and maybe they want to see if you're going

495
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Speaker 6: to a bar and want to go with you. Yeah, yeah,

496
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Speaker 6: I would think, Okay, what why is this person? If

497
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Speaker 6: you're receiving this, This is what I've started to do,

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Speaker 6: you know, over the last I feel like I've been

499
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Speaker 6: much better about this, being like why is this person

500
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Speaker 6: actually setting me this? Okay, before I give this like

501
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Speaker 6: dismissive response like you were saying earlier, many put myself

502
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Speaker 6: in their shoes. Yeah, and Okay, this person is asking

503
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Speaker 6: me about the game. Maybe they actually want to have

504
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Speaker 6: a conversation about it, so I can respond and maybe

505
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Speaker 6: add a little bit more detail about the game.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I mean I've I find myself doing

508
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Speaker 1: this too sometimes, where like recently I asked my cousin

509
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Speaker 1: when the college football playoffs are and then he sent

510
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Speaker 1: me He didn't send me let me google that. He

511
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Speaker 1: sent me like the official collegeball playoffs page. And then

512
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Speaker 1: I realized, oh, I could have easily just done that,

513
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Speaker 1: but subconsciously we were talking about football that I was like, yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: when is that again?

515
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Speaker 6: Well, I think part of it is just like establishing

516
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Speaker 6: or re establishing like points of connection with people, right,

517
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Speaker 6: Like so much of our interactions nowadays are through stuff

518
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Speaker 6: like that, right, sending people links and like asking simple questions. Right,

519
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Speaker 6: It's like you may not see these people day to day,

520
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Speaker 6: but it's like just texting to ask a simple question

521
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Speaker 6: or send the link is like, oh okay, I'm keeping

522
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Speaker 6: in touch with this person in some way.

523
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Speaker 1: Why we talk about why, hey, the weather outside, it's

524
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Speaker 1: like small talk.

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Speaker 2: Shit, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I think.

527
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Speaker 2: It's like why it's sometimes nice to go to a

528
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Speaker 2: store to get something that you could just as easily

529
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Speaker 2: or yeah again the next day or.

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Speaker 3: That later that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like sometimes it's nice to just do things.

532
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Speaker 2: See people I don't know, see the person of the

533
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Speaker 2: story is going to not make eye contact, totally ignore me.

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Speaker 1: Now, the worst thing is when someone will ask a

535
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Speaker 1: question that has been answered previously in the conversation.

536
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Speaker 2: Just scroll up and get like we've talked about you,

537
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Speaker 2: like look two inches up.

538
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it happens.

539
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Speaker 2: That happens so often.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Michael, I think you should feel

541
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Speaker 1: insulted because I think there's a little bit of intentionally

542
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Speaker 1: petty dismissive behavior when they're just sending you that link. Now,

543
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Speaker 1: if if on your end you do you're just wanting

544
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Speaker 1: to start a conversation, I think you should tell them that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or just rephrase your question. Yeah, just say like,

546
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Speaker 3: what do you think about that?

547
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Speaker 2: Or whatever, like add whatever next step to it, if

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Speaker 2: that's the response we're getting, or beforehand, even like in

549
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Speaker 2: the initial question, yeah, or if you want to follow

550
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Speaker 2: this and be like, hey, the information on these ll

551
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Speaker 2: ms is really not accurate that so actually I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: You yeah, yeah, all right, after the break, we're going

553
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Speaker 1: to be fielding a few more questions here from the

554
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Speaker 1: ns TEA hotline about milk hats and apartment Hallway etiquette.

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Speaker 3: Hi, big fan of the show.

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Speaker 7: I'm calling to ask your take on hat etiquette because

557
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Speaker 7: when I was a kid, my parents said it was

558
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Speaker 7: rude to wear a hat inside anywhere, including our house. Now,

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Speaker 7: when I go out with my friends as an adult

560
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Speaker 7: and I want to wear a hat, I ask them

561
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Speaker 7: can I wear a hat there?

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Speaker 10: And they always make fun of me.

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Speaker 3: They say, you can wear a hat anywhere.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know about that.

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Speaker 7: What do you think is it rude to wear a

566
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Speaker 7: hat to some places or is it universally okay to

567
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Speaker 7: wear a hat out?

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Speaker 3: It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible that you you're asking people if you should

570
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Speaker 1: wear a hat somewhere. I mean, I guess like the

571
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Speaker 1: norms have changed since the nineteen fifties or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been that. I'll think about it. In school,

573
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Speaker 3: you could wear a hat, Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 6: I think even in yeah, even in the last I

575
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Speaker 6: think since we've been in high school, it has changed,

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Speaker 6: because I do remember when we were in high school.

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Speaker 6: That was when things were starting to change, and it

578
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Speaker 6: was a similar thing of parents would be like, why

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Speaker 6: are you wearing your like place like Applebee's.

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Speaker 2: I definitely remember the restaurant. Yeah, just like if you're

581
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Speaker 2: in a restaurant, you can't wearing a hat. Y.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really funny. I don't remember this as much.

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Speaker 1: I remember it as like an old timey like in

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Speaker 1: TV shows or whatever.

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Speaker 6: What would always be it wouldn't be peer to peer,

586
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Speaker 6: would be parents. Yea, how I was encountered with parents

587
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Speaker 6: being like, you shouldn't be wearing And also I think

588
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Speaker 6: it's different like what I learned, who was different between

589
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Speaker 6: men and women to wear hats and a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I was.

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Speaker 2: I think I had only read this the voice text.

592
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Speaker 2: I assumed it was a man asking just because that's

593
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Speaker 2: the context of what I heard.

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Speaker 3: That still where it's like a.

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Speaker 1: Guy in a baseball cap basically, yeah, not like a

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Speaker 1: woman with a woman in a hat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when I think you usually get a little bit

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Speaker 6: more leeway with this alshow like, you know, usually they're

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Speaker 6: putting on a hat, they have some sort of hairstyle

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Speaker 6: taking off the hat.

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Speaker 3: If it's a good beep, it's.

602
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Speaker 1: Much more part of their look than like I'm going

603
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Speaker 1: out and throwing on my you know, yeah ace cap

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, Obviously, it is highly dependent on the

605
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Speaker 1: exact scenario, but yeah, I do not. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's rude to wear hats inside today.

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Speaker 3: I think in ninety nine for someone.

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Speaker 2: Who's wearing a hat car Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think for especially for women, for ninety nine percent

610
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Speaker 6: of the places that you're going to be, you can

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Speaker 6: wear a hat if you're you know, if you work

612
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Speaker 6: at Goldman Sachs, and I think maybe you can't wear

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Speaker 6: a hat.

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Speaker 2: I think uniform more than rudeness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I think like the places you can't wear

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Speaker 3: a hat, it's pretty.

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Speaker 2: What are the places you can't wear a hat? I

618
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Speaker 2: mean I would like a really up restaurant maybe, like

619
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Speaker 2: and even that, like women can wear hats a church

620
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Speaker 2: if you're wearing a church hat.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't show up in a baseball cap to church.

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Speaker 6: But if it's if it's appropriate to what you're wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even in funerals, like people wear those hats, you know. Yeah, yeah,

624
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Speaker 2: because that's what I'm kind of picturing. But yeah, so

625
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Speaker 2: I mean for restaurants, I feel like even I don't

626
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Speaker 2: really wear caps that often now, I feel like I

627
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Speaker 2: used to. Actually I would take it off when I

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Speaker 2: was sat down at a restaurant. Yeah, not like I

629
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Speaker 2: wasn't worried I was going to get reprimended, but it

630
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Speaker 2: was just.

631
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Speaker 3: Like out of habit almost.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I think I'm I'm probably still going to take

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Speaker 2: it off, just because I don't really like sitting around

635
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Speaker 2: in a hat. Usually I think I think about it

636
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Speaker 2: less because I'm like, oh, yeah, it's kind of normal

637
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Speaker 2: to do. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wonder where the caller is from, because I imagine

639
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: this is more of a thing in the South. There

640
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: was a clip that went viral after a football game.

641
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick just lost his like millionth game at North Carolina,

642
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: and the coach, the coaches of the opposing teams always

643
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: revere him so much that like they want to go

644
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: meet him after the game even though they just destroyed him.

645
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Speaker 1: And this guy's running up to Bill Belichick and to

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Speaker 1: greet him. He takes his hat off to shake his

647
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: hand because in the greeting it's kind of rude, I

648
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Speaker 1: guess to wear your hat. And I just wonder, maybe

649
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Speaker 1: in the South, if it's a little bit she's.

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Speaker 3: Not from the South, not basically or really good.

651
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Speaker 2: Well, she doesn't live in the South. Maybe she's from

652
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: the South. You're supposed to take off your hat during

653
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: the anthem. Yeah, and that's definitely gone away.

654
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Speaker 1: But yeah, for sure, whenever we go to nets games,

655
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Speaker 1: I do see people taking their hats sometimes. So yeah,

656
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, unfortunately this is a

657
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: gendered conversation. I think women definitely keep.

658
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Speaker 3: The hat on wherever you want.

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Speaker 1: Now, now, your friends are making fun of you when

660
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Speaker 1: you ask, I think that's fair, don't You don't need

661
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: to ask that question if.

662
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Speaker 2: We're going out to a kind of normal restaurant, not

663
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Speaker 2: like something, Yeah, if you were at my wedding wearing

664
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: a baseball cap, I'd be like, what are you doing?

665
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 9: Yeah?

666
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if we're just going out to dinner at

667
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: like a non insanely fancy place where if it's a

668
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: place where you don't need to have like a jacket on, yeah,

669
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: I think you're pretty much good.

670
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 6: I would say a lot of fancy restaurants nowadays, like

671
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 6: people will Yeah, I.

672
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: Went to me and Julia went to a like steakhouse,

673
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: not like a super nice one, but like Gage and

674
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Torner kind of old school steakhouse. And like we weren't

675
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: like dressed up, but like people are there in shorts

676
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: and a T shirts. Yeah, and it's like I was like, okay,

677
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: like you know, it's fun to or whatever. But yeah,

678
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: it's like you can really wear whatever, and no one's

679
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: like batting an eye. It's not like I wonder if

680
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: by her question can I wear a hat?

681
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: There?

682
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: She's really asking like what is how nice?

683
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: Is it?

684
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, another way to ask. Yeah,

685
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, not like I need to wear a hat.

686
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: But put the hat on. Girl, you don't do it?

687
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just do what you want, do what makes

688
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable. Your friends are clowning on you, but

689
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: it's in good spirit. I think you don't need to

690
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: ask if you can wear a hat anywhere?

691
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: All right.

692
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: The next question on the NST Hotline is about milk. Hey,

693
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: guys love the podcast.

694
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm an international listener here from London. I wanted to

695
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: ask is drinking milk, specifically cow's milk as an adult

696
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: gross and why do people think it is? This girl

697
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm dating finds it gross that I regularly drink milk,

698
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: and even worse that I'm a fan of skimmed milk.

699
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: We call it red milk in the UK. She's not

700
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: lactose intolerant or vegan, which might be why some adults

701
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: find it gross. However, I feel like drinking milk is

702
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: good for you, and ninety nine percent of people enjoyed

703
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: it early on in life as a children. The famous Yeah,

704
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: so why the massive drop in popularity. Most people still

705
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 1: enjoy sweets. I feel like there might not be an

706
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: objective answer here, but it does spark strong feelings. Whenever

707
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: I say I drink milk, he's just going proclaiming that

708
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: around I say I drink milk, even in non vegan

709
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: or lack I drink milk intolerant circles.

710
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully this is interesting.

711
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: It is the longest email I've ever written, wow about milk.

712
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Sorry that from and this is from Tony. All right,

713
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: you're asking the right group of guys, because I am

714
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: someone who also enjoys a nice cold glass of any milk. Really,

715
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: but whole milk is really?

716
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: What does it for me?

717
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: I will say there are you know, I don't drink

718
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: it as much in my adult life, but when I

719
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: go back home and I'm with my parents and stuff

720
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: and they've got the milk in there, I'm definitely drinking.

721
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: So your parents keep it stocked, They keep it socks. Yeah,

722
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: they keep it socks but it's for like their coffee

723
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: and like that. But when I go in there, they

724
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: always make fun because I'm wrecking their supply. Do you

725
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: two think that drinking milk is gross by itself? I

726
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, but I don't think it's gross.

727
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: I don't think you don't drink milk by itself. No,

728
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: I am actually lactose in topic.

729
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good reason. But you don't think it's gross.

730
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Like Tony's friends, it doesn't like gross me out.

731
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: It's just not for me.

732
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: I think it would be unusual if I went to

733
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: like my friend's placed for dinner and they were pouring milk.

734
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if I was what if you guys came

735
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: over and I was like, would you guys like a

736
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: glass of milk?

737
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? I find it strange.

738
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: I could see it though, if it is like in

739
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: a kind of dessert, yeah, scenario and like instead of

740
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: coffee or something.

741
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: I guess.

742
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: So wait to be clear, you don't think it's gross,

743
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: but you do think it's strange.

744
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: It's unusual. Yeah, at this point in our lives, it's true.

745
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: All right.

746
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: I have a weird thing with milk.

747
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: It's disgusting, like the fact that I was just talking

748
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 6: about it and it's making me feel.

749
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: A little bit sick. And have you always felt this one?

750
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: I used to drink chocolate milk when I was younger,

751
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: like the where you pour the syrup in, yeah, which

752
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: was the one where yeah, you get syrup in the

753
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: fridge and you put it in. There's that yeah, or

754
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: there's a powder powder. I like the syrup one. I

755
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: never used the powder.

756
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: The syrup is it is better or it's like chocolate,

757
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: it's more chocolate, more chocolate.

758
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: So I would do that as a kid. Yeah, I

759
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: haven't had.

760
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 6: I think if we had a glass of milk right

761
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 6: here and you said I have to drink it, I

762
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 6: think I would actually throw up.

763
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: And it's not like a tolerance thing at all.

764
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

765
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like milkshakes. Oh yeah, wait, you're a milkshake head.

766
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 6: I love milkshakess are great. Like I put fake milk

767
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 6: in my smoothies like an almond or yeah, if I

768
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 6: had regular, like I could put regular in it and

769
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: I would be fine.

770
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: The idea.

771
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 6: I think the issue with me, if with milk, is

772
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 6: the consistency of it, Like something doesn't like score up

773
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 6: in my head of just like it's not quite liquidy enough.

774
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 6: It's not as liquid as like a water, but it's

775
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 6: not milkshake consistency. It's like somewhere in between.

776
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if you would prefer skim or whole. It's wick.

777
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: Skim milk is kind of like skim is straight up water.

778
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't. That's like I said, I

779
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: haven't had a full glass of milk.

780
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: Then you then you'll get back off the train.

781
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 6: So I would think that if if I was dating

782
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: someone who was drinking full glasses of milk with dinner,

783
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 6: I would it would make me a little bit sick.

784
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

785
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: Not you know, I'm not that guy usually, but that

786
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: milk does it for me.

787
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: As far as the health impacts of milk, I feel

788
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: like there was it was literally like the dairy hobbies. Yeah,

789
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: it was never as good for our bones as they

790
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: made it sound. Yeah, I don't think it's bad for

791
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: you by anymore. But I don't think it's like I'm

792
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: sure this is this thing of like you need to

793
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: drink milk or else.

794
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: You're not going to grow. It's a great market.

795
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: Granted I'm short saying this, but yeah, it was like

796
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: that's a lot.

797
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: You can get those nuns from all places. Yeah, we can.

798
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 2: We'll put some links in the in the newsletter, of course.

799
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 6: About since we don't know this, you know what my

800
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 6: advice would be, Yeah, don't put it in the glass.

801
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to see that you're drinking.

802
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 5: Oh.

803
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: I used to hide it.

804
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: Put it in put another container that I can tell,

805
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: the mug or a thermos.

806
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: I literally used to do this so people wouldn't be

807
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: like they would walk by, like, are you drinking milk?

808
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: Exactly?

809
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you put it in something else, you know, none,

810
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: don't ask, don't tell, don't ask, don't tell. You don't

811
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: need to be out here telling people you're drinking milk,

812
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 6: all right, so let's keep that on the on the

813
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 6: hush hush.

814
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: I remember my brother worked for President Chris Murphy years ago,

815
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: and he would drink mountain dew every morning, but he'd

816
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: put in a coffee mug.

817
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you the same reason. Yeah, I would be like,

818
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: I'm never going to support you in any election if

819
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: I see it there a bottle of at eight a

820
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: m Yeah. Hell no.

821
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: I can confirm that the idea that milk drinking milk

822
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: is weird is probably the consensus.

823
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 2: I did go viral for adults, Yeah, for sure.

824
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I posted a photo of me putting my milk in

825
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: a mug so that people at one couldn't see what

826
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: it was, and then it kind of it went crazy online,

827
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: people calling me, discussing people who I know and love. Yeah,

828
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: you put some people on the b list for the

829
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: Way based on that interaction fifteen years ago. So I'm

830
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: certainly sympathetic to Tony's position. I say, do do what

831
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: you enjoy, maybe consider putting it in a mug sometimes

832
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: if it's really a problem to your partner.

833
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: To me, you don't need to be telling other people

834
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: you're doing this all right.

835
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: Your partner knows, but the fact that they're just going

836
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 6: out in interacting with people. Yeah, the consensus is not

837
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 6: if you're trying to win people over, it's not the

838
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 6: way to do it.

839
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: Have you ever ordered milk at a restaurant? No, I

840
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: don't think I would love to see that. I've bet someplace.

841
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 2: I bet like a diner. You could, Yeah, I doubt

842
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: like most restaurants would be able to. Now, sometimes I'll

843
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: get coffee and you know they'll give you milk on

844
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: the side. You just you just drink it a couple

845
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: on a couple of occasions, I'll pour it into my coffee.

846
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: There's not that much room there. I don't know why

847
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: they give you so much milk, and then there's a

848
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: lot of excess milk.

849
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: So you'll drink the coffee and then put the rest

850
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: of it in.

851
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes I drink it wrong, oh man, straight from the

852
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: straight from the teat?

853
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: Would you drink breast milk?

854
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: No?

855
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: Why not?

856
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: From who.

857
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 8: In a jar?

858
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: You're Are you saying that it's the same like the

859
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: cow's milk.

860
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: If you know you're about to have a kid. I

861
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: don't know what MIA's plans are for.

862
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna breastfeed.

863
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: Okay, nice, I'll be there. Yeah, hey, hold on out

864
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: of the way.

865
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: Something for me.

866
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: You got enough six pounds?

867
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: Speaking of my wife. We have one more question from

868
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: the NST hotline, and it's from Mia.

869
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 10: Hey, NST, I have a question about hallway etiquette. So

870
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 10: I was in the Netherlands recently, staying in a four

871
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 10: floor walk up, and every floor I walked past had

872
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 10: just so many shoes outside, like an art installation of shoes,

873
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 10: Like some of them were organized towers. Some of them

874
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 10: were just spelling out everywhere, and it reminded me of

875
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 10: a conversation that Manny and I had about our hallway.

876
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 10: We do have a shoe dresser and a bench, but

877
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 10: we keep it as neat as we can. Anyway hallway etiquette,

878
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 10: what's okay and what isn't.

879
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: As you know, in New York City, very limited apartment space,

880
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: and so in our in the heart, yeah, say your

881
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: piece in our hallway space, Uh, there's a little bit

882
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: of space to use that would not block someone from

883
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: going upstairs or to their apartment. So we have a

884
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: shoe shelf in there, and we have a bench so

885
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: that you can like sit down and put the shoes on.

886
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: And so in this.

887
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: Scenario, I guess if a neighbor of mine had a complaint,

888
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: I would feel a little bit like, Okay, well, this

889
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: isn't blocking you from getting upstairs, and we keep ours

890
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: very neat as much as we can.

891
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people don't, and.

892
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: So I would think in that specific scenario, this guy's overreacting.

893
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: But how do you guys feel about this? What are

894
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: your experiences with people putting their shoes and stuff in

895
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: the hallways of the apartment buildings?

896
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm hardline. The hall is for everyone. There shouldn't be

897
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: anything out there. Mm at most leave a wet umbrella

898
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: and like your dirty pair of boots while they're drying off.

899
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 3: Wow.

900
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: But I think once we start adding stuff, its what, Yeah,

901
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: there's there's no there's no limit because it's like, Okay,

902
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: you might say, well I just have one pair of

903
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: shoes and my wife has one pair of shoes. We're

904
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: now what if someone with three kids comes and now

905
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: I all have two pairs of shoes out there? We're

906
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: adding furniture and artwork. It's like, even if I can

907
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: walk by, it's a little bit like where does it end?

908
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: And it's it's kind of like you just got you

909
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: have too many shoes. If you can't keep the stuff

910
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: in your apartment, I'm sorry you have too many We

911
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: already we all know we have too many things, material

912
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: objects in our lives, and so maybe think you know,

913
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: I live in New York too, there's not a lot

914
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: of space. I understand my closets are jam packed, but

915
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: it should instead of now putting your stuff outside, you

916
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: should be thinking what can I do without?

917
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: How can I do without?

918
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: Wow?

919
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 3: So that's it. I'm sorry.

920
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: But that's that's how I feel. Now I've I've just

921
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: been to apartments and I see, you know, you do

922
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 2: keep it neat. Your stuff's not in the way many

923
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: and other people do. But then it's like, okay, well

924
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: now i'll put this box out here. I'll put you know,

925
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 2: my skis and my golf clubs. Because no one's walking

926
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: past here. It's like, it's kind of not about that.

927
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: To me.

928
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's not your space. Yeah, and it

929
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: shouldn't just be overflown because it's the sort of thing

930
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: where if everyone did.

931
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: That, yeah, it's chaos.

932
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Ye, that's a completely understandable take. I disagree with it,

933
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: but I think it makes sense. We try to do

934
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: we try to make sure we're not using it as

935
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: like extended storage.

936
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: It's more like what is the ship you need when

937
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: you're on your way out of there?

938
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: But you are why definite because it's not your apartments,

939
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: So it's extended storage.

940
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: Of course, it's not like boxes of stuff. Sure, yes,

941
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: that's what I meant.

942
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: We're not. I'm not.

943
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't write about storage space for the items in

944
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: my hallway. So it feels like if it's like so

945
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: right now, we have a problem with our coats. There's

946
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: nowhere to put our coats in our apartment, and sometimes

947
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: New York City apartments of course they're all small, but

948
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: sometimes there's actually not closets and.

949
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 6: So like, yeah, I literally don't have closses. You have closets,

950
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: So explain to me why you don't have space for

951
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 6: your coats.

952
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: We have.

953
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: We have one closet that's in our kind of like office,

954
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: so that's a lot of office stuff in there, so

955
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: there's no room for the coats. There is a closet

956
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: upstairs where we have coats, but we're not to coat

957
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: that many. Now I'm thinking about getting a coat or

958
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: a little thing on the you know you walk in

959
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: on the wall. We have one of those as well.

960
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we just have place we need to put.

961
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: You need to choose your seasonal coach, and the rest

962
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: need to be packed away. Well, look, hold on a second.

963
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: The coats are not outside, relaxed, They're they're about to

964
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: be coats outside.

965
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: Exactly what I'm talking about. He's thinking about it.

966
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I was about to say, what Noah's making sense. No,

967
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: it makes sense in that we have too much ship.

968
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to get rid of some of the stuff, yes,

969
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: before we attack you. But yeah, I basically think like,

970
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: so I've I've lived in places too where other people

971
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: have their ship outside, and I'm always someone like, if

972
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: it's not blocking me, I really don't give a ship. Now,

973
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: you guys, I've seen the examples in your apartment for example.

974
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's horror, horrifying.

975
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: So this is hate.

976
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: I hate to be I hate that this person is

977
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: representing you, my very eyes, the hallway packery.

978
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: This is not all hallways. This is how we had

979
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 3: to evolve. Because I was before.

980
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 6: I was a little bit lenient too, But over the

981
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 6: last couple of weeks, my neighbors have gotten very bold.

982
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: So the apartment next to me, they've gone through a

983
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 6: couple of iterations to this. The first iteration was they

984
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: just had the shoes all over the floor. The first

985
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 6: door to get into that little apartment is closer to

986
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 6: their apartment, so you open the door and there's your

987
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: shoes all over the place. Okay, that was pretty terrible.

988
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 6: Then they get they got you know, they got their

989
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 6: ship together a little bit. They got a shoe rack.

990
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was a little bit better. Now there's

991
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: so much shoes. The shoes are on the shoe act

992
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 3: and on the floor, spilling, spilling out onto the floor.

993
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: No one's wearing that many shoes that frequently.

994
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: Now, this is every shoe day, every is out there.

995
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 6: Then over the last week or two they put this giant,

996
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 6: ugly piece of artwork, huge, huge, and the thing is too.

997
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 6: What really bothers me about it is that there's a

998
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 6: small window in the door where you go, you know,

999
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 6: to go into that little vegetable and you could see

1000
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 6: that all you see is the damn artwork in the

1001
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 6: window now and then okay, representing you now yeah, now

1002
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 6: now it looks like that's my ship.

1003
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even worse.

1004
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 6: All right, So it's bad enough they got their shoes

1005
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 6: all over the place. Once you get within that door,

1006
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 6: you know, it's blocking the floor.

1007
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: They got the artwork.

1008
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 6: You know, I'm trying to get my dog, you know,

1009
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 6: to wipe his feet, put his flee Shawn. He's like

1010
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: stepping all over those shoes.

1011
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: He's confused where you want.

1012
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: Me to stand, to be clear, I find this offense

1013
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

1014
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 6: And then every other day they're adding something new out there,

1015
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 6: and I'm like, okay, there, so they're treating it like really,

1016
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 6: I know we're talking about man and his shoes, but

1017
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 6: they're truly treating this like storage.

1018
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: This is where they're cleaning stuff.

1019
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: This is like a closet now, and there's a closet

1020
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: and it just doesn't look good.

1021
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: If the thing that I'm keeping out there wasn't there,

1022
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: would you be able to get to your apartment?

1023
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: Would you? Would you?

1024
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: I hear you?

1025
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: And that's where I originally landed.

1026
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, I also, yeah that mainly, And

1027
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: I also think it's like, you know what, I think

1028
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: it's kind of fair to not want to see random

1029
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: stuff in the hall.

1030
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: I think, whether that's artwork or just other stuff.

1031
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: Like the guy below me is a little eccentric for

1032
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: other reasons, but sometimes he'll just have like fishing poles

1033
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: out there for like days, and it's like, and is

1034
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: that like like hanging up a guitar like this is

1035
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: It's just like, I mean, they're both bad. It's like

1036
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: a pail of fishing rods interesting because they're wet. I

1037
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: don't get it. I don't know why, but like I said,

1038
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: this guy's yeah, this guy's like, well, I don't know

1039
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: this guy's doing something, but it's like and I'm walking

1040
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: by it, I'm just like, I don't really.

1041
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: It's like ugly. Yeah, now that the building is so beautiful.

1042
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: That is one.

1043
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: That's the one part I do understand, where like this

1044
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: is a common it's your taste, you're what you like art,

1045
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: shoes and shit.

1046
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: I don't mind. It's like as long as I'm not

1047
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: touching it.

1048
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: And then even with shoes, I'm kind of like I

1049
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: understand why some people would like not want to see

1050
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: it that I don't care nearly as much about if

1051
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: it's not in your way.

1052
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if someone's going to be annoyed, I'm like, yeah.

1053
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: That's how I feel.

1054
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 6: I'm going they need to keep it restrained your shoes,

1055
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 6: and the shoes need to be in some sort of

1056
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 6: container or rap.

1057
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least one out of us.

1058
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm hardline in the support legislation that yeah banned. I

1059
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: just think it's it's the best solution to me, and

1060
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, think about what you actually need.

1061
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reiterate that's fair.

1062
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm gonna you know, I'm here, I hear

1063
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm gonna continue using my space the way

1064
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: I do.

1065
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: If I get things are gonna change, I'm ready to

1066
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: the mayor.

1067
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we now, if the.

1068
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 2: Landlord was like, get your shit inside, obviously I would listen.

1069
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1070
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: And our uh, our neighbor doesn't seem to carry us

1071
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: and said anything, and he has some stuff.

1072
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: I'll listen to your neighbors podcast.

1073
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, maybe he's got maybe he's complaining.

1074
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: He's strobably coming at two pm after this.

1075
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for the No Such Thing

1076
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: Hotline this time, But since it's holiday season, stick around

1077
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: after the break for the No Such Thing Gift Guide

1078
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Welcome to the gift guide portion

1079
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: of today's episode. Noah, I'm gonna start with you.

1080
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: I'll start broadly and then I'll point you to one

1081
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: specific item. Okay, it's that's helpful for all of our listeners.

1082
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: I think a nice board game is a good gift

1083
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: because it's inoffensive and there's a wide range. You can

1084
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: easily get one for less than fifteen dollars. I'd say,

1085
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: even with the tariffs, you can go you know, kind

1086
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: of mid scale hit the nice you know, let's say

1087
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: twenty to sixty range, and if you're a real you know,

1088
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: real head, you can probably you know, get a nice

1089
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: chest set that's you know, in the hundreds thousands. One

1090
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: in particular that I like, you can buy from the

1091
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: MoMA design store. It's a backgammon set. It looks very

1092
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: sleek and modern, bright colors. Don't ask me how much

1093
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: it costs. I'm not sure anymore.

1094
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: But do you own this? I bought it for someone.

1095
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so it's a gift you've done before and

1096
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: you do it again, and I stand by.

1097
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten any negative feedback on the one person

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Speaker 2: you bought it for. Yeah, godden positive feedback at the

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Speaker 2: time anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, has it been touched? Not my problem?

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Speaker 2: God, that's okay. Yeah, I want to say it's probably

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Speaker 2: in the forty to fifty dollars range.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll link to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll link to it obviously in the sub stack.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's nice because it's it's kind

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Speaker 2: of you can have it as a decorative piece somewhere.

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Speaker 2: You don't really need to play it obviously holiday season.

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Speaker 3: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully there's people around you can play a game with

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Speaker 2: fun for the whole family, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: I haven't played backgammon.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of checkers, like, Oh okay, I

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00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: like checkers more than chess, though, yeah, it's like a

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Speaker 2: little bit more complicated than checkers, less complicated than chess,

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Speaker 2: right up my alley, Yeah exactly, all right, Well checkers easy,

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Speaker 2: chess can't be bothered to learn. Yeahaha, sounds like the

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Speaker 2: right move less some strategic I think. And you can

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Speaker 2: probably just resell this easily if you don't like it,

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Speaker 2: go to.

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Speaker 3: You, no harm, no foul.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Devin, I'm gonna cheat a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I've kind of took my like real real gift is

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Speaker 6: I think you know, we don't have no such thing

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Speaker 6: plus yet, but I think it would be great if

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Speaker 6: you know someone likes a podcast, to buy them a

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Speaker 6: subscription to it, right, because it's one of those things

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00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 6: that like is kind of annoying to have to buy yourself.

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Speaker 6: But if your friend, say, is really in the search engine,

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Speaker 6: you get them search Engine Plus I don't know what

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Speaker 6: it's called incognito mode, and then they get to listen

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00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 6: to the show with no ads for a year. You're supporting,

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00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 6: you know, independent people making art.

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Speaker 2: It's a good price for a gift too. Exactly because

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Speaker 2: it's not like crazy, No, it's also like the it's

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Speaker 2: just the amount of money that you might not want

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Speaker 2: to spend exactly for yourself, but someone gave it to you.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Now, are you talking a year subscription? Yeah, year subscription,

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Speaker 1: because it's going to be like fifty sixty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I just got my hyper fixed whatever subscription

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00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 6: renewed is forty dollars for the year.

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Speaker 3: Not bad.

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Speaker 6: Forty dollars for a gift, pretty good anything that someone

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Speaker 6: would actually use dead day. So remember that in a

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Speaker 6: couple months when we start, no such thing. Plus, so

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00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 6: you can subscribe.

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00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: It's a really good gift. I mean I might do

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Speaker 2: this actually see really thoughtful.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but my actual gift is a little bit more

1151
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 6: heartfelt and it takes a lot more work, but it's

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00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 6: a good gift.

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Speaker 3: I'm out listening.

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Speaker 6: We need to bring back the mixtape, but not in

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 6: a Spotify playlist, but I'm talking about and I've done this,

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00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 6: you know a couple of times.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 6: You make a it's almost like a DJ set, right,

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00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 6: It's one you do one track and you make it

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Speaker 6: about I'll give you forty five minutes to an hour

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00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 6: long of music. You select what songs. You don't have

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Speaker 6: to play all the songs front the bat. Sure, it's

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00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 6: like you're curating a specific DJ set for one.

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Speaker 3: Person and you're doing this yourself. I've done it, yeah

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00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: many times. Wow, I like to have fun with it.

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Speaker 3: I'll bring in like some YouTube clips.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's always there's a great who's Kevin

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00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 6: Gates has some incredible quotes.

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00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 3: He has just like quote about like licking his dog

1170
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: in the mouth, Like you put that over some music.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's like you can really like curate it

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Speaker 3: for a specific person.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing this on a particular program or yeah?

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Speaker 3: I usually do it in the way premiere. Yeah, you

1175
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: could do it in Adobe edition.

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Speaker 6: If you don't know how to use audio editing programs,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna be a little bit tougher for.

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Speaker 3: You, but you can do it. I bet there's some

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Speaker 3: apps to that can kind of do this.

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Speaker 2: Hates a good Devin props, but these are two bangor gifts.

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Speaker 3: Was my go to UH gift when I was in

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Speaker 3: a relationship.

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00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: Great ideas.

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Speaker 1: Nice many All right, So there's this there's this stock

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Speaker 1: in the stock market. Game stop gmmy, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, So my my.

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00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: First gift, I was like, all right, it's not financial advice.

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Speaker 1: So my gift is earplugs. And this is specific, specific

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Speaker 1: brand that I've really come to love. They're called Loops.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of like designer ear plugs, but don't be

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00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: afraid of the word designer. They're probably forty to fifty bucks.

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00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: And I have tonightis like I don't know if New

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00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: York City made it worse or it just gets worse

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00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: as I get older, but like my ears are ringing

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Speaker 1: all the time, and I think actually most people don't

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Speaker 1: realize how much their ears are getting attacked on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis. So what Loops has done is they've gotten

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Speaker 1: Like there's different versions you can buy. I bought the

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Speaker 1: ones that are that are called switch loop switch, where

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: you can filter how many decibels are being blocked.

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Speaker 3: Expensive, that one.

1202
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Speaker 2: Is fifty bucks.

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Speaker 3: I think those are on the way right now to my.

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Speaker 1: Wife, Oh really, the lost yeah, that one problem is

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00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: that they're so easy to lose. So I am on

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00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: my third pair. But the switches, yeah, those are more

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Speaker 1: expensive but just like super useful, like even when I'm

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00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: at a cafe by myself, like I'll throw them in

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00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: and you start to realize, like how much your ears

1210
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: are just getting violated all day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lated, it's a much.

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00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: It's a much more calming experience. The cheaper ones, like

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Speaker 1: if you really want to block everything out, they have

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Speaker 1: like the versions that don't switch. Those are like twenty

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Speaker 1: bucks every movie.

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Speaker 3: I put them in.

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Speaker 6: I do it at concerts. Now, Manny, you've got you

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00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 6: converted me to be a loopshead, but I.

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Speaker 2: Wear them nearly every day.

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Speaker 1: So if you've got someone in your life you think

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Speaker 1: is who might they also have? Like sleeping versions. I

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Speaker 1: bought some recently. I haven't tried them out yet, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: they they are. It's a quality of life upgrade for your.

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Speaker 2: Loved ones and Loops.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, please sponsor meds.

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Speaker 7: Thing.

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Speaker 1: No such thing as a production of Kaleidoscope content. Our

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Speaker 1: executive producers are Kate Osborne and Mangesh hot To Cadur.

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Speaker 1: The show was created by Mandy Fidel No Freedoman and

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Speaker 1: Devin Joseph. The theme songs are by Me Manny, and

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Speaker 1: mixing is done by Steve Bone. Thank you to everyone

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Speaker 1: who's sent us questions for this NST Hotline episode. If

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Speaker 1: you have something you'd like our advice on, definitely feel

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Speaker 1: free to call the number in the show notes or

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Speaker 1: send us an email. Visit no Such Thing dot show

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: to subscribe to our newsletter, and if you have feedback

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Speaker 1: for us or a question for our regular episodes, our

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Speaker 1: email is Manny Noah Devin at gmail dot com. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back next week with a new episode, Heals