1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: And that's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss podcast 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: the Guest Edition. This is the one and only the man, 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend, the icon, Jacob Artist Jake Puckerman. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Finally, we have been so excited for this. The stars 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: have aligned. He is here. He's releasing new music and 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: new music video. It's all happening. And he is one 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: of our favorite people on the face of the planet 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: and one of the sweetest, was talented, just good humans, 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: and we are so excited to have him here. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: We literally had the best time with him shooting he 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to his music, go listen to it. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: And then his newest single is Before Alt Version and 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that he released in music video I think today hour 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: and so we're going to talk to you about it 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: and go check it out. And here's Jacob Jacobarri's congrats 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: on your new music. You're knew a single before Alt 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: This is the before Alt Version is what it's called. 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: I it's so good. 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Jenna. It's so stupid. You're so stupidly talented. Yeah, 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: I mean, please, coming from you too. It's about goddamn 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: time the level of talent that you two have, Like, 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: give me a break, but thank you so much. No, 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: it's very nice. 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: Though. 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: What made you start doing music now? Like this year 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: putting out music? 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: And you know, I think like when we were doing 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: the show, that was sort of the first kind of 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: itch of like being in the studio and like that 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: whole experience. And then I think I just got to 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: a point where, you know, I wanted to do it 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: and I wanted to pursue it, and I wanted to 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: tell stories and kind of like expose myself in that 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: way and be really vulnerable and hopefully you know, it 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: connects with people and they can relate to some level 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: of like emotionality. That is what I was going through, 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: and it was just exciting and I just wanted to 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: try it. And like I said, Glee, I think was 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: the first kind of eye opening moment of like, oh 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: my god, like this would be so fun because I 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: had never been i mean in a studio or anything 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: like that before, right, And so you know, about a 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: year ago, I just was like, I feel like this 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: is something that I want to do. 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: So you had to get it out. 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: I had to get it out. Yeah. 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: It's therapeutic, isn't it? It is? 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: It really is. 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, have you before that, like before you put 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: out your first song, had you been writing songs that 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: you know weren't released, Like was that something that you 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: did as like a hobby, as a way to express 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: yourself or was it more of an intention of I'm 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: going to start doing this now, like this is the 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: time I need to These are the stories I want 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: to tell, and we're going to start from here. 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it was. You know, I 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: did some sessions with producers and writers like right after 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: we finished the show, and like I was very like 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: useless in those sessions because I hadn't yet kind of 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: learned that muscle or wanted to you know, talk about 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: the things I wanted to talk about, or like I said, 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: tell the stories that I wanted to tell. So, you know, 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: after just I mean we wrapped the show what like now, 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: ten years ago, I think it felt really organic, Like 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: it just felt like something that was exciting and new, 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: and you know I kind of just wanted to dive 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: in and do it. So it wasn't something I always 72 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: was doing, like it was something sort of gradually like 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: over time. You know. 74 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like a departure from what we normally 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: know you to do, which is like dancing and acting. 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, totally. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: But then we were rewatching the show and like, and 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: even Darren said, he's like, I remember sitting down and 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: watching Jacob performance first solo and we were like blown away, 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, this kid can dance, he can act, 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and he can sing, which was underutilized on the show. 82 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: We all know something about that. 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: But I also listened to Darren's episode and you guys 84 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: were very very nice to me, so thank you. I 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: was like, fab four. 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: But it's very exciting and it's really it's different, and 87 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's very you. Like I I feel like 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: you've come into yourself. And it's been a long time 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: obviously since the show. We've all kind of grown into 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: ourselves in other ways, and so this is really cool. 91 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: You also have a music video of it's out now. 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: Oh yes, okay, so I did a little. 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: Video, Yes, give us we love it by. 94 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: The water we went to I did it like in 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: near San Diego. Amazing. It's out right now, but I'm 96 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: excited about it. There's a bit of dancing in there, 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: which is so Yeah, it's I like at school, I 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: liked that. 99 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: You know what I think is so hard And Jenna's 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: just Jenna's point just now about like your music that 101 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: you're putting out feels like as someone who knows you, 102 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: feels like you like an extension of you. And I 103 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: feel like so often when people want to start doing music, 104 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: you have an idea of what you want to do, 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: of what you think you want to do, and there's 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: a disconnect from you know, the music to representing the 107 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: real person or the artist. I feel like your music 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: really encapsulates a specific side of you, and it's such 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: a skill to be able to do that, to express 110 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: it in that way. Was there anything like going into 111 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: it with the music videos, with the song itself and 112 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: any capacity of like your artistry as a as a 113 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: singer now like to make sure that that came across, Like, 114 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: was there anything you had to or is it just 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: showing up and being you and putting your taste in it? 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I think the showing up was I mean, 117 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: you obviously do music and are phenomenal at it, but 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: I think you know this showing up for me that 119 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: was sort of the learned process, like, because the reality 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: is we all sort of are connected through even if 121 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: circumstantially the experience is different, the emotionality is kind of 122 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: this like common thread, right, So being able to just 123 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: kind of like show up and really dive into your 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: vulnerabilities and what you want to talk about it just 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: is the way that it resonates with people. And so 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: that was like my biggest thing. And in that process 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: of really like finding that music and the sound and 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: sort of what instruments I liked and things like that, 129 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: like showing up and just kind of, like I said, 130 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: digging deep into like, Okay, this is what I wanted 131 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: to feel, like this brings me back to that specific moment. 132 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: This sort of like nostalgia reminds me of that, And 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: so just like tapping into all of that and just hopefully, 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, like executing it accordingly. You did so far, 135 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: So good, guys. How has the responsib been from people? Good? Good? 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: They like it. They it's been good. I mean everyone's 137 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: been like really sweet about it, and which is all 138 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: you can really ask for, you know, But. 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: It's scary, like it's terrifying to yourself into something like 140 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: oh ship people actually have to listen to this, yes, 141 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: I mean. 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: That was the thing too, is like, you know, with acting, 143 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: you're kind of like hiding behind somebody else's sort of circus, right, 144 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: and like with music, it's like you really are like 145 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: gripping your chest open and being like this is who 146 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: I am now, this is what's important to me, blah 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: blah blah. So it was like fucking scary, Like I 148 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, like this is wild. 149 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: But acting there's people to blame, like if it's not 150 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: like well I didn't write it, I didn't direct it 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: or edit it, or who didn't promote it exactly exactly exactly. 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. It's so good. Everyone needs 153 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: to go watch the video. 154 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Watch the video. So much music is hard these days, 155 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, so everybody has to support. 156 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. 157 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: Know what you're also really good at, which is also infuriating, 158 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: is TikTok. 159 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: You guys, you're very good. Like last night I was 160 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: going to bed and I'm like, you better get that. 161 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: Megan the Stallion danced like come on, I'm sorry, I'm 162 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: not on TikTok. 163 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know this Jacob artist. 164 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: It's like a black hole. Number one. It is like, 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: but it's it's so perfect for Jacob's sense of humor. 166 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I could like TikTok. I did this 167 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: thing with my friend to like the Megan song or whatever, 168 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: and like the comments on it are so funny. The 169 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: humor on TikTok is like peak and also Kevin, I've 170 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: seen all of your like. 171 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: My lazy I do the laziest. 172 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: I just like the ranking, like the pop girls, the 173 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: Beyonce elbows. I see that it's good. I enjoy it. 174 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: I consume it, so it's good. 175 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: And not you calling like one of your best friends 176 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: by your character always if. 177 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: I haven't called you guys already, and Tina, you know 178 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: you know, I'm always like. 179 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: You. 180 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: Also something I don't know people know about you, but 181 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: you give everyone nicknames like I don't know if you've 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: always done that, but you showed up on the Glee 183 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: set and we're just throwing. 184 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: Out, Oh yeah, I love it. I love a good 185 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: nickname for sure. One I mean was always Kitty TCC 186 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: again I call Evelyn. I don't even know, yes, but it. 187 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Was so right. You're gifted. You are so gifted. It's 188 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: very funny. 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: It's like my favorite, like a nickname. 190 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: I cannot I just to annoint someone I do. 191 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: It's the best, It's my favorite. It makes it so 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: much more fun. I'm like, I can't. 193 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: It does. It's also so funny. Is you're so calm 194 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: about it or it's not like a deal. It's just 195 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like he says it. 196 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I wake up one day and I'm like. 197 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 2: That's her name. Yeah, yeah, it comes to you. 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: Now we have to talk about Glee, Yes, that whole thing. 199 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: That's why we're here. 200 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: It is why we're I mean, we're here for you 201 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and for your music, but we're also here because a 202 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: lot of people want to hear the Jacob artist story. 203 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: I guess we have to start at the beginning. You 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: were accepted into Juilliard. That's what we had heard about you. 205 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,119 Speaker 1: We're like this dancer who was accepted into Juilliard. He's amazing, 206 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: He's coming into play the bad Boy on a scooter, 207 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and we've got to know, like, how did you get 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: the role? 209 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: What was happening in the. 210 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Juilliard story or your dance story at the time. Did 211 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: you have a dance audition? 212 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Also, is what I want to know. 213 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: I did not have a dance audition initially. First of all, 214 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: Like I mean, okay, I'm gonna start from the beginning. 215 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: I'll give like the long, long, detailed version. Great. Yeah, 216 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 3: so I got I got accepted to Juilliard. But at 217 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: that time, I was like, you know, I really want 218 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: to move to LA. I think I want to try 219 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: acting blah blah blah. So I didn't go. 220 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: And when I moved to La, No, but back up, 221 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: not just everybody gets accepted to Juilliard. No no, no, 222 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: no no, that's like not like a you just throw 223 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: that away, Like yeah I did, but like whatever. 224 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it was wild. It was Yeah, it was 225 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: a crazy moment for sure. 226 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: So like you grew up. You got accepted to Juilliard 227 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: for dance, and like that was your plan initially, Like 228 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: what like how was your audition process like for Juilliard? 229 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that was like I mean we were there, 230 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: we had to be there, I think like a full 231 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: week and then there was probably like five cuts. But 232 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 3: when I was auditioning for Juilliard, I kind of already 233 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: was at a space of like I think I want 234 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: to try acting in LA, Like I do want to, 235 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: So it wasn't like I got in and then I 236 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: made a decision, like it was kind of like bubbling 237 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: already at that point, and so I was like, I 238 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: was in LA And I remember I was driving in 239 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: the valley with a friend of mine who was an actress, 240 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: and we passed Robert's Robert Alrich's office as a casting director, 241 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: as you guys know, and she was like, Oh, they're 242 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: looking for like a new girl and like a new 243 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: guy for Glee. You know, have you gone in for 244 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: it yet? And I was like, no, I haven't, Like 245 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: that sounds amazing. And then a week later I got 246 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: an email and it was like typical Ryan Murphy fashion 247 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: where there was like no details, like it was like 248 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: it was like boy one and it was like sixteen 249 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 3: in high school, and I had like no idea what 250 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: it was. And I know, you remember Roberts. He had 251 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: that crazy office where the waiting room shared a wall 252 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: with the audition room, so you can hear everything. You 253 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: can hear them like singing, you can hear them like 254 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: hitting these notes, like and I'm just like, oh my god, 255 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: like I can't believe I'm about to do this. So 256 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: I go in and like it was super quick, and 257 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: it was like in and out and it was just 258 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: singing at this point, like there was no acting. 259 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: Yet, and then really so there was. Yes, it was 260 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: just singing. 261 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, initially it was just singing. There was no acting. 262 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: And then maybe like a week later, it was like, Okay, 263 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: you're going back in, but this time you're going to 264 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: do sides. And at this point I think I knew 265 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: that it was like Tuck's brother and the scenes were 266 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: Puck and like Ashley think like old scenes, like the 267 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: two of them got it. So I went in again 268 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: and it was like again very quick, like in and out. 269 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: And then maybe like four days later, my agents and 270 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: manager called me and they were like, you're testing for Glee. 271 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is crazy. 272 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: So we never met an audition that you could not book. 273 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: Look at you, I mean you guys. I was like, listen. 274 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: I was not I was not like a gleek per se. 275 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: But you have to understand, and I know you both 276 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: know this Glee was like the biggest show in the world, 277 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like everybody watched it, everybody 278 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: loved it. Everybody, you know, it was connected to it, kids, teenagers, 279 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: young adults, boys, girls, parents, families, everybody. I remember watching 280 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: the show like in my living room with my parents, 281 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: with my grandparents and being like, oh, this is amazing, 282 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: you know. And I remember seeing you guys and being 283 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: like that what they're doing, being able to sing and 284 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: dance and act like on screen like that would just 285 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: be like the dream job. Like I would love to 286 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: do something like that. So if there was no Glee, 287 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: and I mean this genuinely, like, I don't think I 288 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: would have became an actor because the departure would have 289 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: been too far from being a dance Because the musical 290 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: genre was sort of exploding at this time. I was like, oh, 291 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: I know how to dance, Like maybe I can, you know, 292 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: learn how to sing and act? Yeah, So it was crazy. 293 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: So it was like you're testing for the show and 294 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: I was like wait what And it was like we 295 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: had we had to bring in like five songs all 296 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: transposed because Brad, the piano player, played for the test 297 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: and so we had to bring in like literally five songs. 298 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: I think I worked with this like American Idol coach 299 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: at one point, and we like, you know, she fixed 300 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: all the music for me because I had to bring 301 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: it in. Oh my gosh, and then we didn't get 302 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: the sides, the actual sides until like midnight the night before. Yeah, 303 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: and like we were like asking for them and blah 304 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: blah blah. Yeah tracks exactly, And so I got the 305 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: size the night before. I like went to my acting 306 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: coach at the time, Lauren Nadler, and we just like 307 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: did the scene like a million times. So then I 308 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: of course didn't sleep like I was like, you know, adrenaline. 309 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, like this is wild. 310 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: We had to be there at eight am to rehearse 311 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: with Robert, and then we had to be there, you know, 312 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: for the full day. And for people that don't know 313 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: back then, and I know, you guys know this testing 314 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: was you had to there was a studio and a network. 315 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: You had to stand in front of like all of 316 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: these executives essentially and kind of be like, Okay, here's 317 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: what I got. And then they're like, okay, cool, you 318 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: get the party. You don't. So I went at like 319 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: eight am rehearse with Robert and then this was like 320 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: me and like twelve other boys at this point, and 321 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: I remember. 322 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people. 323 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: It was a lot of people, and like I talk 324 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: about the Black Sheep like literally like they were like 325 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: all white guys. Like I was like, okay, like let's 326 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: see how this goes. Yeah, and uh, Brad Fuchuk came 327 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: in and like Ian came in and you know Ryan 328 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: sort of like gliding in like aura. 329 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 330 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: And the first test it was very again, it was 331 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: like very in and out. We only did one song 332 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: and we did the Jake scenes and then that was it. 333 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: And then I remember Robert came out and he like 334 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: looked to me straight in the eye and then looked 335 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: down and I was like it's over. I was like, 336 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: you did a really good job, Jacob, like you got 337 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: this far, like it's gonna be amazing. And so he 338 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: like went to all the other boys and then he 339 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: came to me and I was like, Robert, you know, 340 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: thank you so much, like I had like the best time. 341 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 3: He was like, are you crazy, Like you're going to 342 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: the next thing, and I was like okay, cool, yeah, 343 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: And so then it was me and two other guys 344 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: and then it was the same thing. We went in 345 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 3: and out. We did one song and the scenes, but 346 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 3: there was no like talking or anything. What song did 347 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: you do? Never Say Never by the Fray The song 348 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 3: I did and that. Yeah. Yeah. Also, Jake was not 349 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: originally written as like the mixed race dancing guy, like 350 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: that was not what the archetype was like at all. 351 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: And I think in the original the first episode was 352 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: like a Billy Joel song or something. But then after 353 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: I got chested, like do you want to sing that song? 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, sure, awesome, So yeah, I 355 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: was like yeah, I love that song. Was like and 356 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: so then it was me and these two other guys 357 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: and it was you know, in and out whatever, and 358 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: then Robert opened the door and he was like, Okay, 359 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: they want to talk to you, like they want you 360 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: to come in here and they just want to talk 361 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: to you. And I was like okay, cool. So by 362 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: this point, like I'm so sleep deprived and like delirious, 363 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 3: and like we'd been there all day. 364 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: So you had both rounds in the same day. 365 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: Yes, we need to be there at eight in the morning, 366 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: and then the final round was maybe like four o'clock. 367 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: That is wild, Like we tested like I had days, Like, yes, 368 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: I had like two days in between. I had a 369 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: studio test on one day and the two day later 370 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: it was a network test. 371 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Yeah, they like rounded all the cows together 372 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: and they were like yeah. I was like, wow, yeah, 373 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: yeah yeah. 374 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: Were they testing for any other roles at the same time. 375 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: Yes, they were testing for Brodie, for Dean Guyer. 376 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, that's crazy. 377 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. So there were all these guys there 378 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: for that one too. Got it okay, and so then yeah, 379 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: I was like winding down and Robert was like, Okay, 380 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: come in, like they want to talk to you. So 381 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 3: they were, you know, like asking me about Juliard and 382 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: they were asking me like dancing and like, you know, 383 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: at this point, I'm so like I said, we had 384 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: been there all day. I was like my most charming self, 385 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: Like they were laughing at my chokes and like I'm 386 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: nineteen years old and like there's like an energy and 387 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: it was really nice. And they had me sing more 388 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: songs as well. 389 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 390 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was in there probably for like maybe 391 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: twenty five minutes, and then I remember when I was yeah, 392 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: I remember when I was leaving. Ryan was like, you know, 393 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 3: do you just like not get nervous, and I was like, 394 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 3: I'm so nervous. I'm just like hiding it very well. 395 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: And so I remember leaving and being like, oh, Wow. 396 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: That was good. And so then Robert came out again 397 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: and I was waiting for him to like ask the 398 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 3: like other boys to go in or whatever, and they 399 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: were like, Okay, that's it, like you guys will find 400 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: out tonight. And I was. 401 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: Like, oh, do you think at that point you're like 402 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: I have to get this. 403 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: I did At that point, I was like, oh my 404 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: fucking god, like I think I might have gotten this, 405 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: Like I was like, that's crazy. But of course then 406 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: it was like you'll find out tonight. We didn't hear anything. 407 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And then it was like the next day 408 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: it was like, oh you hear something tonight, crickets no, 409 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: like yeah. So each day that went by, like my confidence. 410 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: Was like, of course you started analyzing it, like I 411 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: should have done this, I should have ad that, like overthinking. 412 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: It, and I was like every single day they went by, 413 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: I was like fuck. So then I was it was 414 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: like a week later, no, oh yeah, yeah it was. 415 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: It was like a full week later, and I was 416 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: did you. 417 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Have to let it go? Yeah? Did you have to 418 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: like sort of mourn it? Like I didn't get it, 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: I have to let it out by now? 420 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was telling myself like, you know, don't 421 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: think about it, like you know, you thinking about it 422 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: isn't gonna change the outcome like blah blah blah. But 423 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: of course I was like like you know what I 424 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: can think about. So yeah. So it was like a 425 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: full week of suffering miserably, and then I was at 426 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: dinner and my agents and managers called me and they 427 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: were like you you got it, and I was like holy, 428 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: like this is crazy. And I remember my car was 429 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: told that day too, and I remember specifically they said 430 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: like you can't you know, if you say anything, like 431 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: they'll go with your second choice. So I was like, yeah, okay, 432 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: Mum's the word. I was like, I'm not saying anything 433 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: to anybody until like you know, a certain amount of 434 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: time had passed or whatever. Yeah, And my friend was 435 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: like are you Like are you okay? Like your car 436 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: was told, I was like yeah, you know, like how 437 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: much was it? Like I can pay it, like it's fine, 438 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: like blah blah blah. And he was like, you're like weirdly, like. 439 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: You didn't even tell your friend that you were with. 440 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: I didn't tell Kevin. I was so scared, like I 441 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: was like I was like, if you know what I 442 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: mean they said specifically like yes, like they were like, 443 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: don't say anything until like they have some sort of 444 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: announcement and if they do verbatim, they were like Ryan's 445 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: gonna go with the second choice or something. I was like, Okay, that. 446 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: Was dangling in the hands of your own face. 447 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, So it was like I was like, mom 448 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: is the word? Yeah? And then and then we started 449 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: pretty quickly. Melissa I started doing like chemistryes with the 450 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: Marley's too, because they she was like after and then 451 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: I remember, like I think our first gallery shoot, she 452 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: wasn't even cast yet, and I don't think Becca was either, 453 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: because none of them were there. It was just me 454 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 3: with all of you guys. And I was like, I 455 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: was like nineteen years old. Do you remember like that 456 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: first first galery. 457 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: Is that where we first met? Is that the shoot? 458 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: I think? So Kevin, I remember meeting you in Cord. 459 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: There was like some Fox like affiliate thing at Soho 460 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: House that we went to. 461 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, it just yes on the red 462 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: carpet or something. 463 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were upstairs at Soho House. I remember that's 464 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: the first time I met you in Cord and I 465 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: remember like Leo was there, and she like flew by 466 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: in her sparkly dress. And Jenna, I think it was 467 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: the gallery shoot the first time that we met. But 468 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: I remember the first time like you and I John 469 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: I really like connected, was they were doing Womanizer in 470 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: the like twenty two point zero episode and. 471 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: There was at the lockers. 472 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: Yes, we were at the lockers and Melissa and Alex 473 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: were singing and we were back there and it's like 474 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: inherently awkward, sort of like mind conversations to begin with. 475 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: And you were just very you and like very cool 476 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: and very funny. And I remember you instagram the selfie 477 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: of you and I and I looked horrible and I 478 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god. 479 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: I was like, oh you didn't say like, don't post that, Jenny. No. 480 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, oh no. And you 481 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: were so sweet and you were like you know guys 482 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: like Jacob and he's like new and blah blah blah. 483 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: But those are my first two memories of meeting the 484 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: both of you. 485 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: Open Oh my god. 486 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to hear about the chemistry 487 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: reads with the Marley's if you remember, but also like 488 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: going into it, were you also very nervous because I 489 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: remember Becca saying she was so nervous that like when 490 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: I said hi to her because like we have a 491 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: mutual friend Dante. I was like, hey, like we have 492 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: friends and she was like, oh that's nice, and like 493 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: he was it. 494 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, all these newbies better watch it. 495 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: She was crazy those first two weeks. I don't know 496 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: who that was. Like she was she was like a mute. 497 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: I remember she was shut down. 498 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: He was. 499 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: I remember we're talking to Melissa and we're like, she 500 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: like homeschool, Like what is her deal? Like she's like 501 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: and to. 502 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: Know her now. 503 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: So it's a wild but it does make someone since 504 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: you've been watching this, like the fact that she had 505 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: never auditioned for TV before and came in, didn't know 506 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: what a mark was it was doing all this, it 507 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: was like, oh she was just killing thrown into the 508 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: deep end of course. Like her response was just like. 509 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: All of her energy was on camera and then outside 510 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: of it she was completely this person. 511 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: Response was like fight or flight. She wasn't speaking. I 512 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: was like, but she yeah, she said it was like 513 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: her first like TV job and whatever. But I that's 514 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: one of my favorite stories is like whoever that girl was? 515 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: For those we don't know who that is. 516 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: We don't know, we don't know who that was. 517 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: She only ever existed for two weeks. 518 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: Again, Yeah she what's her name? 519 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy because I feel like our experience 520 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: with you was very much like what Ryan said. Were 521 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: you never seem nervous always? Yeah? 522 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just I was definitely like nervous 523 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 3: for shore going in, but it felt very easy and 524 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: you guys made it very easy, and you know, but 525 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: I was, I mean, of course, I mean Glee was 526 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: like a rocket ship, you know what I mean, Like 527 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like I was scared, but it 528 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 3: was always like really fun and really I wasn't like 529 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: Becca not speaking, I love that story so much, like 530 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: it's my it's my favorite. 531 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: She was also like. 532 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: A little separated and like you and Militia to work 533 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: together quite a bit. And so yeah, she joined the 534 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: Glee Club for a few episodes, so like story, so 535 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: like she was kind of out on the outpt from everybody. 536 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure she was. 537 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: So you had you auditioned for TV before? 538 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I had. I mean I was in a lay 539 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: for like a year when I got the show, and 540 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: I I did like Nickelodeon stuff and like Melissa and 541 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: Joey and I did like a Blue Lagoon two on Lifetime. 542 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, yes, so you showed up and you 543 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: had you had some like the experience under your bolth though, yes. 544 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 545 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: And so then like when you're all of a sudden 546 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: you get cast, you haven't even shown up to work yet, 547 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: but then you have to do chemistry reads with other 548 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: new people. What is that like from that perspective to 549 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: be in there. Well, you're now the person who's hired, 550 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: You're the guy. Oh my god, it's great. Yeah, the 551 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: pressure is off. Yeah yeah. 552 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, they because I got cast pretty like kind 553 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: of late in the game from what I understand the 554 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: timeline was, and they still hadn't cast like the Marley's yet, 555 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: so they were like, you know, can you come do 556 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: these chemistry reads with these girls and blah blah blah, 557 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: and it was all I mean, it was always very 558 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: much her. I mean she, you know, Melissa is great 559 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: and we just had this like really amazing, like professional 560 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: chemistry from the beginning. I remember her just coming in 561 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: and like I just really felt her there with me, 562 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: and that's like the best feeling when you're doing chemistry 563 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: reads with somebody, you know, yep. And she was very 564 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: charismatic and very bright and you know, just had that thing. 565 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: So I read with her I think maybe two or 566 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: three times, and her final test was in the choir 567 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: room actually, and she started working I think like the 568 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: next day. 569 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. 570 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but she knows. 571 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 572 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: She doesn't cease to amaze me, like guys do the 573 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: amount of stuff that you guys, you all had to 574 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: do immediately. Yeah, and Melissa was doing like two songs 575 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: an episode like immediately yea, and having gotten and like 576 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: Becca and having done any TV before, and all of 577 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: a sudden working with Jane Lynch and doing these insane 578 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: monologues you coming in and with all of us and 579 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: doing everything all at once. It's it's pretty insane to me, 580 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: especially because, like you said, you have been watching the show, 581 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: and so when you show up to work, like, what 582 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: is that. I don't know that mental space like for 583 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: you because obviously we're idiots. You know, people are watching 584 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: that show, but yeah, you know how many people what 585 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: the show means to you, what it means to other people, 586 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: and it's been on for years, it's now Yeah, I 587 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: don't know, like foundational to Fox the Fox lineup. 588 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean totally explosive I was. I mean, like 589 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: I said, I had such an awareness of the show 590 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: and like loved it so much and respected what you 591 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: guys did and wanted that, Like I said, that was 592 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: like the dream job. And so you know, now being 593 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: thirty one, I take like three steps and I need 594 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: a nap, you know what I mean. But like back 595 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: then at nineteen, I really felt very fearless about it, 596 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to be anywhere else, and I 597 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: was excited to be there and I wanted to be there, 598 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: and it was all that I had been like working 599 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 3: for at that point, you know, And so I was, 600 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: I was scared, and I was excited immediately because you 601 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: guys were so disarming. You made like the atmosphere just 602 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: like very easy to be there. And I was absolutely 603 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: terrified and then kind of like immediately like wow, these 604 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: people are so great and they're so warm, and they're 605 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: having so much fun. And we obviously did have so 606 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 3: much fun. But the pressure was on for sure, you know. 607 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: I was like I don't you know, yeah, I mean, 608 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: Khali was this this jugger not of a cultural phenomenon, 609 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 3: and so many people loved it and enjoyed it and 610 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: watched it, and so I was very aware of like 611 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: all those mechanics and how you know, how much was 612 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: going on with it. 613 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: You know, you guys were just like thrown into the 614 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: fire totally in a way though, it was like this 615 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: was home for us, and I'm glad we were in 616 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: good spirits still at the time that like we were 617 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: ready for you guys, you know, to come in and. 618 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: Excited for you guys. 619 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, very blood and. 620 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Like Zach and Brooke had overpot with everybody, and so 621 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: like I just imagine that tone being set like okay, 622 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: you like you get on board and you do it 623 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: or you jump ship, like get off, you know what 624 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, because somebody else will totally totally. 625 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like I said, I think just 626 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: that age was also really specific. It was kind of 627 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: that like undeniable moment in your life that's like college 628 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: essentially on steroids totally. So I was really fearless and 629 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: like I've had limitless amounts of energy to be there 630 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: and to be dancing and singing and acted, you know 631 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: what I mean. I mean, I was nineteen. 632 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: I was literally there and my baby. 633 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: I was the actual youngest, like the you're the youngest 634 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: person ever cast I think to ever, Like, well, Chris, 635 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: Chris was eighteen, Chris, I think you were. I was nineteen. 636 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, but it was like, you know, I nineteen, 637 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: especially now being thirty one and looking back on that 638 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: time and being like you were a child, you know, 639 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: you were like so young. But the but the aspect 640 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: of that was that it just, like I said it, 641 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: I was really like experiencing so many things. For the 642 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: first time I was in La. La was kind of fresh, 643 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: and so I was like anxiety, like I don't know her, 644 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: who is that? You know what I mean? Like it 645 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: just didn't it just didn't exist. I was from the 646 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: suburbs of Buffalo, and you know, I just wanted to 647 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: like show up and do you know this amazing dream 648 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: job and you know, have the best time, which we did, 649 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: you know, and people felt that and it was really palpable. 650 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: And but yeah, it was like a mix of so 651 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: many things. Like I said, it was Initially I was like, 652 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: holy fuck, this is terrifying and crazy, and then we 653 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: just had like a lot of fun and we were 654 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: just like in it, you. 655 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: Know, it's remarkable that you were nineteen, and like the 656 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: way you've always carried yourself was never like a nineteen 657 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: Like you were all idiots, right, I mean, like we 658 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: are idiots, but when you're working that many hours and 659 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: it's hard to maintain a professional level all the time, 660 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: that you and all the newbies I think came in 661 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: with a sense of the gravity of the situation. And 662 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: it were always because like we were the ones that 663 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: could probably afford to act up every. 664 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: Now and then. 665 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think poor cord coord was totally like 666 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: the test dummy of how we interact with the new 667 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: people coming onto the show, and so it's like if 668 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: we behaved badly, he might pick up some of those 669 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: habits or vice versa. And so there was sort of 670 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: this united front and Jenni Craig me, if you have 671 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: a different perspective of this, but it felt like you 672 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: were all very much on the same page and very 673 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: respectful of the show and the process and of the work. 674 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: And regardless if you saw one of us acting up 675 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: or saying something, it didn't matter, you still maintained your level. 676 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: You guys never complained, like you were sort of like steady, 677 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: calm quiet professional group the whole time, which is not 678 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: what everybody would say about the rest of us. And 679 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: it felt like along with the new energy that you 680 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: brought to the set, you also sort of checked us 681 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: in a way and brought us back into focus of 682 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: what we were doing every single day, which was really nice. 683 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: And it was especially going back now and looking at it, 684 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: I think that's palpable and like we were became such 685 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: fans like all of you, Like when Darren was talking 686 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 2: about your version let Me Love You, like we were 687 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: not acting in that scene, right, Like we were rooting 688 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: for all of you and wanted the world to see 689 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: how talented all of you were in such different ways. 690 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's a hard thing, is a new class, Like 691 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: we've seen shows, high school shows that were wildly popular 692 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: that then went into college years or summers years or 693 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: different casts come in and that is very hard to maintain. 694 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: And it's very hard to get people to like you 695 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: guys or like a new cast easy. And I'm sure 696 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: there's some obviously like opinions about some of that on Glee, 697 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: but like they integrated us so well that it was 698 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: a mixture that you fall in love with new characters 699 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: you have the old You Have New York. It felt 700 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: like a different tone of a show somewhat, but like 701 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: it still had the heart of what we were doing. Yeah, 702 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: and I feel like you guys definitely checked us. Like 703 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: we were then the ones that you guys looked to, 704 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: and we were the leaders and it was our job 705 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: when we were like, oh shit, we've got us at 706 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: the EGA, I believe, and though we were a little crazy, 707 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: but you guys, I definitely felt like you knew the 708 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 1: stakes of which you were there and what you had 709 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: to lose, even though you you acted like you had 710 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: nothing to lose in your performances, like you guys all 711 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: just had you know, we were all so young, You're 712 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: like whatever, But yeah, you guys were so great, and 713 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: it just it reinvigorated us. Like Kevin and I always say, 714 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: like the memories we had with you guys are actually 715 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: some of like the like the revival. It was like 716 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: the revival of Lee in a way, because I have 717 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: such fond memories of season four and five, even though 718 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: there's a shit time of everything else going on, and 719 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, on the show, we had a fucking blast. 720 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: We really really did, and like you know, I mean 721 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: just a testament to everything that you guys are saying, Like, 722 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: I was very much aware of the seniority walking in 723 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: and I you know, when we sort of started like 724 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 3: integrating and you know just all sort of like became 725 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: friends and like having so much fun, like that was 726 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: all wonderful. But I, you know, was very conscious about that. 727 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: I mean, even if the show was like halfway as 728 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: successful as it was, like still you're going into a 729 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: new environment where there's people that helped make this thing 730 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: be what it is, and you know, I just wanted to, 731 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 3: you know, go in there and be friends with everybody 732 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: and like have a good time and you know, drink 733 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: red bullet three in the morning when we're all like 734 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 3: deluge it all. 735 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite memories, that is I was. 736 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: Thinking about that before this, Like that is one of 737 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: my favorite Like when we're like in the auditorium, like 738 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: I don't remember what it. 739 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: Was, but we were doing something with our extults. It 740 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: was really late at night, and that's when I think 741 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: the Fantastic Four was born when we dubbed ourselves that 742 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: because we were literally high on red bull. I don't 743 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: know how many. 744 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: It was, like was a setup going on and the 745 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: four of us stayed in the auditorium seats or something 746 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: like that. We were watching Should we Rouge it up? 747 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? We were like should we whine not? And by 748 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 3: this point Becca was not that girl from the two 749 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: weeks and we were like, we're red bulleting like it was. 750 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: It was so funny. 751 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: My other fun memory, Jacob with you was was the 752 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: birth of our joke or inside Joke lofts. So there's 753 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: an inside Joke Lofts. It doesn't given any justice. Sorry, 754 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: you guys won't really get it. It's just very funny 755 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: to us. And we were in the library and I 756 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: think we were shooting shout. 757 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna ask where that. 758 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: I can't remember which number it was exactly, but it 759 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: was one of those numbers where like people join in 760 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: in different you know, rooms and different like. 761 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: I I thought it had something to do with your 762 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: apartment as that. 763 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I had just bought my. 764 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: Loft, yeah okay, yeah yeah. 765 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: And for the record, you guys, Jacob and I lived 766 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: in the same building for a while. 767 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: It was really so I. 768 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: Moved from Kevin and then I moved in with my 769 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: other roommates, which was Jacob and a bunch of other people, 770 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: but lofts was there was a large coffee table book 771 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: in the McKinley library and we were in between setups 772 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: and we were looking at the books and there was 773 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: a coffee table book that I picked out, and I 774 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, loss. 775 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: Yes, that was the start of it. 776 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: That was the start of loss. 777 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: And then you made fun of me and you were 778 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: like loss, yes, and that was loss. And forever we'll 779 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: be dubbed in my mind as one of the greatest 780 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: jokes of all. 781 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 3: Time synonymous week Lee, I mean, I can't. And also 782 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: this emoji Jesus, Jesus. 783 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: We see each other from across the room and just 784 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 2: do this like a greeting, like hello. This was the 785 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: hands in the air emoji, like. 786 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 3: The yeah, this was our gang sign. 787 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: Jacob's impression of Jenna is one of life's greatest things. 788 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 2: I still do it. I do it all the time. 789 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: I love weekly. 790 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: I will do it. 791 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 2: Oh that's funny. Oh we had see, we just had 792 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: so much fun. We had so much fun. Did you 793 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: notice when like ja Jake came on was the bad boy, 794 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: which is not really you. 795 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: I R obviously, yeah, of course. 796 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 2: On his little scooter, but I feel like the bad 797 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: boy thing didn't last too long because I also feel 798 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: like the writers there was new writers at this point, 799 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 2: like every season we're adding in a couple and it 800 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: was growing, and they were hanging around us, and they 801 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 2: were also like getting to know each other and getting 802 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 2: to know you guys, the new people, and it felt 803 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: like as they were learning you about all of you, 804 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 2: the character sort of melded how our characters melded into 805 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: us in real life and picked out some of our 806 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: I don't know better qualities or whatever they wanted to use, 807 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: whatever they wanted to exploit in a great way. Did 808 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: you feel that or like when you started to get 809 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: the scripts, see your character changing and all of a sudden, 810 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: like you're dancing more because I can just see Hitchcock 811 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: being like, we have to get him dancing more. They 812 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: were such fans of you that as the as the 813 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: season A, season four got going, there's like a period 814 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,479 Speaker 2: in there where every episode like Jake's doing another huge number. 815 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was always doing something. 816 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 817 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: What was that like to be on the receiving end 818 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: of like, oh, the writers are maybe not writing to 819 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: me Jacob as the human. 820 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you know, they Initially the 821 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 3: character of Jake was sort of like written as you know, 822 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 3: one thing, which I think was more closely to UK's 823 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: kind of archetype. And then I think, you know, after 824 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 3: I was cast, and I even remember, like in the 825 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: audition process, like I was saying, they were asking me 826 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 3: like a lot about the dancing stuff and the Juilliard 827 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: and you know, they were like, we want you to 828 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 3: dance with Heather and Harry and I was like, yeah, 829 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: I mean, of course that would be so much fun. 830 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 3: And so it did kind of transform to what felt 831 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: more like organic to just like me as a person. Yeah, 832 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: and you know, that kind of transformation just like was 833 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: gradually happening as episode went to episode. Yeah, but it 834 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: was nice. I mean, you know, one of the whole 835 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: reasons that I wanted to be an actor in the 836 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: first place was to be able to have some sort 837 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 3: of dancing aspect involved. And so the fact that they 838 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 3: incorporated that and just made it such like a huge 839 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 3: part of his character was amazing, you know, And none 840 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: of that was there initially, and again that was just 841 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: sort of like a gradual, you know, gradual development. 842 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:31,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. 843 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they sort of adjusted as we went and 844 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: you know, wanted to utilize all of those things, so 845 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 3: really nature, Oh my god. 846 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: And then you had Kitty who also was a dancer, 847 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: so you guys got. 848 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: To like, yeah, Becca also was a beca. Also was 849 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 3: a dancer, playing the flute upside down in the Trans 850 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: Siberian Orchestra or claim to fame. 851 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: I love that. 852 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do a lot of the fans. We're gonna 853 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: do a que with you later. A lot of fans 854 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: wrote in a lot of really good questions they there's 855 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: a resounding feeling that you were under utilized on the show. 856 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you felt based on like what you 857 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: how you've been talking about the show and your experience 858 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: on it so far, Like what your perspective is on that. 859 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I'm delusional. I didn't totally feel that way. 860 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 3: I mean, like when we when they sort of moved 861 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 3: the whole show to New York and our sort of 862 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: like new group was kind of being like released. I 863 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: could have I mean I could have done Glee for 864 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 3: forever just because of like who I am as a 865 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 3: person in like dancing and singing and acting, like I 866 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 3: just loved the child. But when we were when we left, 867 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like there was any stones really like 868 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 3: left unturned for me personally, It's great, Like I felt like, 869 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: you know, I had opportunities to sing, and I had 870 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 3: some idea ansked. 871 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 2: A lot, and you know mom on the show. 872 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 3: We met my mom on the show, because yeah, II 873 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: show is like the best. She's like amazing. 874 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: How was it having like it's so cool and like 875 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: crazy when you get parents on in a job like that, 876 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: having her as your mom, that. 877 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: Was I mean, that was great. She was so great. 878 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 3: We were I was still like kind of relatively new 879 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 3: at this point, so having her be there with me, 880 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 3: it was like really nice. And in that scene it 881 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 3: was like my mom and it was Puck's mom and 882 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: Puck and we were all like sitting at breadsticks and 883 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 3: she just is very like charismatic and incredible. So yeah, 884 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: so it was it was like it was so good. 885 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 3: And I love that kind of little storyline of like 886 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: the mom's meeting, you know as well, especially with like 887 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 3: the history of sort of like what was going on 888 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 3: or whatever. But yeah, she was I mean, she was 889 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 3: like the best. She was so good. 890 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: If anybody can say anyone at ease, it's her. 891 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, yeah. She Yeah, she's off, she's wise. Yeah, 892 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: she's the best. 893 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 2: Do you have you got? 894 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 3: I mean. 895 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody sort of like got like one 896 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: big number to do in the show, like you, I mean, 897 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: you had a couple. But I remember seeing you film 898 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: Rhythmnation and like catching it in between setups or something, 899 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: and it was a full on like it felt like 900 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: when Harry and I did Scream Oh, which was so good, 901 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: but it was just like a full on music video production, 902 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: like gigantic, like the scale of it. But what did 903 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 2: it feel like? And now you like, you know, putting 904 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 2: out your own music, where like when you're the center 905 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: of it was an ensemble cast, nobody was the lead. 906 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 2: We were all sharing every scene basically, But when you're 907 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 2: shooting something like Rhythmnation, it feels I imagine it felt different. 908 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, this is like did it feel like daunting? 909 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: Like this is a huge thing. Everybody is watching this, Like. 910 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 3: What was that? Yeah? I mean yeah, I think like 911 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 3: all of the above. I remember, I think Brad was 912 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: the first one who told me that we were going 913 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: to be doing that song before like I even got 914 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 3: the script, and I was like, I mean, you know, 915 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 3: Jared Jackson is like please, She's legendary. And I remember 916 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 3: when we started rehearsing it and doing it and they 917 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 3: were kind of like telling me what it was going 918 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 3: to be like and where we shot at that I 919 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 3: don't know what that section was called, but all of 920 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 3: those stairs was like a warehouse in Paramount. 921 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, it was like the back of a building. 922 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like so half of it 923 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 3: was like in the choir room. Half of it was there, 924 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 3: and they were kind of like, you know, explaining to me, 925 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 3: like what was all going to be going on, And 926 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 3: that was just a moment where it's like okay, like 927 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 3: you're really dancing here, you know what I mean? Like 928 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: this is really in a way like you know, you 929 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 3: better do your Juilliard shit or something. Yeah. So yeah, 930 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 3: so I you know, we rehearse that for hours at 931 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 3: the what did where do we dance? What's called the 932 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 3: water Tower? The Powerhouse, Powerhouse, Powerhouse, Yeah, I couldn't think 933 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: of the name, but so yeah, we rehearsed it there 934 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 3: with Brooke and stuff, and you know, I remember like 935 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 3: Peacock was like taking videos while we were shooting, and like, 936 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: you know, he sent them to me and like I 937 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 3: sent them to my parents and I was like, oh, 938 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 3: like this is incredible, Like this is crazy. But yeah, 939 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 3: that definitely was sort of quintessential like Glee music video dancing, 940 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 3: and I was very I was like, you know, this 941 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 3: is here for it. Yeah. I was like this is 942 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 3: what I always kind of like dreamed about doing, so 943 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 3: to be doing it, I was like, this is this 944 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 3: is pretty special. I was like, wow, nineteen on a scooter, 945 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: here we go. We're doing Janet now like I were 946 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: doing it. My mind was like blown. It was crazy. 947 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: We should have called you Juilliard, Juliard. That would have 948 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: been a good Julia. 949 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: You guys only called what did you call it? Jake 950 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: or Jacob. I didn't have a nickname from you guys. 951 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jesu. Yeah, Jesa, we had. 952 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why you called me Jessa. I called 953 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 2: you Jesus, Jesus? 954 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 3: Was you Kevin and I were Jessu? And then but 955 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, China did you call me any? I 956 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 3: think it was just Jacob. 957 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 1: I think it was just Jacob. I'll take it Jacob 958 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: before we let you go. We always ask everybody what 959 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: is the feeling that Glee leaves you. 960 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: With nostalgia for everything that you know, we all did 961 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 3: together and how much fun we had. But then I 962 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 3: think also just like a celebration of you know, people 963 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 3: and singing and dancing and acting and the joy that 964 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: that can really bring. And you know, I think the 965 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 3: show in many ways is a lot about kind of 966 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 3: celebrating the underdog, and so I think it's like a combination, 967 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 3: a blender of just like all of those things, you know, 968 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 3: And I think there's it's not a mistake the show 969 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 3: was as explosive as it was because there was some 970 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 3: real magic to it that you guys put there. I mean, 971 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 3: obviously I came in like much later in the picture, 972 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 3: but you know what you guys did in those first 973 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 3: two seasons, it was not an accident. There was something 974 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: really special about it. It really resonated with people, and 975 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 3: like I said, everybody loved it and enjoyed it. And 976 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 3: it's not even once in a lifetime, maybe like once 977 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 3: every ten lifetimes, just sort of the stars aligning and 978 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 3: it was just really really really special. 979 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: So that well, we were so lucky to have you 980 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 2: like join the show. You made Yeah, you made every 981 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: day better. It was like we couldn't say enough good things. 982 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: Obviously we're obsessed with you. 983 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we all love each other, so we do. 984 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: It's gross. I mean, I'm sure you both get ascid 985 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: a lot too. But like when people like, oh do 986 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 2: you still keep in touch? Yeah, and shock on everybody's 987 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 2: face when I say it's like, yeah, we all talk, 988 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: we all love each I mean we messed. 989 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we had the best fucking time. 990 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: Like please for really, you know, really really did well. 991 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on Jacob and sharing our experience with us. 992 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: And if you guys didn't get it already, we love 993 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: Jacob and we had a lot of fun. 994 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 3: With him, the best time. Thank you, guys. I love 995 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 3: you well. 996 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for another episode of Jacob. We're gonna do 997 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 2: a Q and a of questions from all of you, 998 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: and also Jacob. Tell everyone about your music. Where to 999 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 2: go listen, stream Watch whatever, Oh. 1000 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 3: Yes music it's before the old version in the videos 1001 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 3: on YouTube, and the song is on all wherever you 1002 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 3: listen to music, Spotify, Apple, Everything. I love you. 1003 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on. 1004 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 3: I love you both so much. Thank you for having me. 1005 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: You're so welcome and that's what you really missed. Thanks 1006 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: for listening and follow us on Instagram and that's what 1007 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 2: you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a 1008 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 2: review and leave us five stars. See you next time.