1 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 2 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Or just over two weeks away from the twenty twenty 3 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: five NFL Draft, and Steve and I had a Steve 4 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: had a busier weekend than me, although we both had 5 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: busy weekends, and Steve and I spent Saturday morning together 6 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: as we were both part of his buddy Frank Reich's 7 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Call to Courage breakfast that he holds here every year 8 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: in the springtime. Bill's tight End. Dawson Knox was the 9 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: award winner this year, and we had a lot of 10 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Bills Talk mixed in. UB's Sean Dolac also recognized, along 11 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: with a high school quarterback, Justice Kleitz. And Frank and 12 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: his wife Linda do a nice job with everything every year, 13 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: so kudos to them in the work they do. 14 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: A very nice event. It was fun to be there, 15 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: sold out again and you know, Dawson was sensational in 16 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: his remarks and I really appreciated them. Nice to see 17 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Frank and Linda again, Joe Brady there to recognize the 18 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: high school recipient of the award. It was really nice, 19 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: a nice event and back on track. It had taken 20 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hiatus over the last couple 21 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: of years and now, you know, to be back in 22 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: back in the swing of things, was nice to see. 23 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Good to see you did a nice job. M seeing 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: there Brown. 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, I thought 26 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: it went well. You know, people were engaged, they liked it. 27 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: We had some good videos as well to kind of 28 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: support the program from our video department here down the hall. 29 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: So appreciate them helping h frank out. 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: So that was cool. 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Kind of did a little review of the twenty twenty 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: four season, and we also had a little fun at 33 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Steve's expense, introducing him in a variety of ways. 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Shall we say, Yeah, we better than to like run 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: that past me before you do that. 36 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I can't take credit for it. That was 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: someone else's idea. 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: I just executed it, you know. 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: They Yeah, I think there were some people that were 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: worried that young people in the audience might not remember 41 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker the player. They'll remember him as Steve Tasker 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: the pitch man, or Steve Tasker the host. 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Of I'm an Old Dude. I'm an Old Dude. So 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: they and I'll say this too. These days when they 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: show some of the stuff like NFL films is great. 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of stuff, you know, from way 47 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: back in the day. Ever, but everybody's on it. And 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: they showed me like talking to the camera with him 49 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: a helmet off and on the field, and I looked 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: ten years old. I looked like a kid from the suburbs. 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Man be a bill for a day. 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: That was me. 53 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: That's what I looked like. You had that. 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: You had a pretty bushy haircut back then. 55 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: Too, well, everybody did. Man, that's the way it goes. 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: If I could have grown a big food man chew mustache, 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: i'd have had one. 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Do you have does it does? The problem doesn't connect 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: at the corner of your mouth. A lot of guys 60 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: have this issue where if their mustache doesn't connect here. 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Connect It would take you a while. That day there 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: was nothing to connect. Yeah, you grew a beard a 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I can now. I'm fine, Yeah, 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: I can. I can grow a nice little great You couldn't. 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Do it back then. 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I could not do it. It was ug l y. 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: So you try. You apparently attempted this at one point 68 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: in time. 69 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So no, it was bad. But that was a 70 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: great event, and I appreciate it was nice. I you 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: they had to really go out of their way to 72 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: make me feel good, so they didn't know. 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: Uh. 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: Steve also was pressing the flesh with Bill's fans later 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: in the week out of town. 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the thing. I've never done this before. 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: I always get asked TSC. It's Total Sports Entertainment, who's 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: done some work with the Bills here. They're the guys 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: that have the book booths outside the places where you 80 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: can buy parafernea that's autographed. 81 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: Right. 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: A bunch of guys have deals with them, and I'm 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: one of them. They keep asking me every year to 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: go to this card show in Chantilly, Virginia, and I'm thinking, well, 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: so I'm busy. Well this year they said come on 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: dude that I said, all right, I'll do it. And 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: then it turns out I've never done this before. You 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: take a flight out in the morning and you fly 89 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: back at night. Because I've been Yeah, so I fly 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: down there. I had no idea. It's just out. It's 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: just a five minute drive from Dulles International Airport, so 92 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: it's presto change. Oh I was there. You know, it's 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: like a magic trick show up. I fly down Thurman's 94 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: on my flight, they get down their gym's there, and 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean like a lot of guys are like a 96 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of like really famous guys are there, like not NFL, 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Like there's no NFL. Not like me. It's like ray 98 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: Lewis and ed Red Becaus is right around Baltimore, ed Reid, 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: ray Lewis. Is there a couple of guys Terrell, Bernard, 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: greg Russou, Christian Benford, No, not Christian Benford, Terrell, Bernard 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: greg Russo and Tyler Bass and Keyon Coleman. I saw 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: those guys just you know, and then while I was there, 103 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, they listed some of the guys who had 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: been in and out of They're like guys like Terry Bradshaw. 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know dudes, right, So I went. It 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: was kind of fun because you know, you sit down 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: an the autograph stuff and I have the I have 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: the perfect I don't you know. Everybody says this issue going, 109 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to if I want to go in 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame because those guys go to those 111 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: card shows and you go, you know, they got like 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: it for a picture taken with him. I did that too. 113 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: People can take a picture with them. I get, like, 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: what twelve guys that want a picture, families and stuff. 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: These guys got three hundred people lined up. 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: It's better to be me, that's your opinion. It's better 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: to be me. 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: It's better to be me. I got, like, you know, 119 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I can sign if I signed everybody who ever wanted 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: my autograph, it took me like forty five minutes. I'm done. 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, here's my question, how long before your hand gets tired? Because, 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: if you know, I would say, nowadays all of us, 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: just because of the use of computers, writes less than 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 2: we ever did in school. Like you remember you writing 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 2: the four page book report. It's all handwritten. Yeah, yeah, 126 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen anymore. And even here at work, like 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: we don't write nearly as much. We jot down a 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: note here or there. When does your hand get tired? 129 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: It did, It did get a little tired. I was 130 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: there down, I left in the morning. I got there 131 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: and sat down at eight thirty am, so it was 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: a really early flight, but it was a quick drive over, 133 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: stopped for a cup of coffee, sat down, started signing, 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: and I was out of there and back at the 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: airport at twelve thirty and yeah, about about an hour. 136 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: In about an hour, probably a few shake I had. 137 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: To shake, probably a few hundred. 138 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Great to see people Bill's fan, I told you coming 139 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: up to me and we have we have a really 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: obviously it's Bill's mafia who listens to us, right, So, 141 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: and that's who the people there were at the thing. 142 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: They coming up to me, and I was signing to 143 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: some person. I inscribe things for people, like to this 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: person and that person. You know, some might be chilly stuff, 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of all that. And I had some 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: people come up and start referring to the callers that 147 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: had been on the show, like hey, you know, I 148 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: think you know Tom on the West Side and Judy 149 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, and then stars in there, all right, and 150 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: then the guy comes up, he goes, hey, I want 151 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with my cousin. He knows you 152 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Ill who is it? He was Butch from me. So 153 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I spoke on the phone with Butch. So yeah, it 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: was uh, it was a fun day. It was a 155 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: fun day. And I had been unable to do this 156 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: card show because you know, I don't really do those. 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: It's not that much, like I say, it's not much 158 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: demand for me. So I did it and fun day. 159 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: I flew back, same plight. Jim and Thurman are on 160 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: the flight with me, and blah blah blah. It was 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a very nice day. But 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: it's something I hadn't done before. That's funny places in 163 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. The parafe, there's the curtain, and then there's 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: behind the curtain. It's an interesting industry. 165 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: A lot of moving parts behind the curtain. 166 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm guessing, well, you know, we show up and we're 167 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: signing stuff for TSSE for an hour or whatever, and 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: then they take us around to there's other dealerships around 169 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: the other businesses around the country, the exact same business, 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: but they've got like a Denver place was there, and 171 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: a Baltimore place was there, and a Buffalo place was there, 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and a Pittsburgh place was there and so all these 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: places from so they would tool us around. 174 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: But it sounds like they all kind of pool their money. 175 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: They all know one space together. 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the ins and outs, 177 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: but they would count the items that we signed for 178 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: another company. I'd go over and sit down do the 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: exact same thing for them that I did for Tssea, 180 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: not really like one of these little guys. It was 181 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: a dad and his kid who have their little business. 182 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: I signed like three things for them. Three and then 183 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: there's another one that has signed fifty things for and 184 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: another over here. So it was kind of like behind 185 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: the curtain, it's a factory. 186 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like there's somewhat of a symbiotic 187 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: relationship with these different outfits around the country, like, hey, 188 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: we don't need as many Buffalo things as you do 189 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: because you're based in Buffalo, but we could use a 190 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: handful of things. 191 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Heines Ward was there, you know, Troy Poulamalu was there. 192 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: You know, there's some dudes, So yeah, it was It 193 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: was kind of cool. So those guys, you know, don't 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: come over sign a few things for you. You sign a 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: few things for them. And behind the curtain is like 196 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: every industry. It's kind of kind of interesting. 197 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: Now let's get to the upcoming new because you're gonna 198 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: be in the crosshairs of a hockey game tomorrow. 199 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: That's right, I'm gonna be between the benches with Razor 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: on the broadcast that is of the Sabers game. 201 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: And you have you have decided you're gonna go Sand's helmet. 202 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: I gotta, yeah, I got, I gotta sign a waiver. Okay, 203 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: so I'll do that. And uh but if hey Razors not. 204 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: He's wearing a tie. They told me I didn't have 205 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: to wear a tie. What should I? I don't want to 206 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: wear Sabers stuff. I'm gonna be sitting right next to 207 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, you know what I mean. 208 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 209 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta be kind of down the middle 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: like a broadcaster. 211 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you might have to go college shirt and jacket. Plus, 212 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: don't forget it's it's a little chili down there. 213 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: It's Carolina ringside drafted. I don't want to wear a 214 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: black and gold red thing. 215 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that? Yeah I would. 216 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: What do I wear? 217 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Oh? 218 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: Are wearing black and red? I guess Carolina? 219 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds strange. Maybe Carolina is wearing all the 220 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: whites all right? As to ask him what he's wearing. 221 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: And then wears a coat and tie, and they told 222 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: me I didn't have to. You know, if you don't 223 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: have to, who's gonna wear rocket? Right? Or should I 224 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: wear a coat and tie with my tie loose? 225 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: I don't think you need a tie. Then maybe a 226 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: collar shirt only because think about this, like all the 227 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: bench people, think about like coaches behind the bench, even 228 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: the guys that open and close the penalty box store. 229 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, they dressed kind of nice, you know what 230 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean, And you're gonna be kind of in that vicinity. 231 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I could borrow that. 232 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: You don't want to look like a ragamuff I. 233 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 1: Could borrow the vendor cone heads half. 234 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: Great. Now we're showing footage when Razor got hitting the dome. 235 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: A guy next to him has a helmet on. 236 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: That's Harry Harry skulls. 237 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the knots already forming. Yeah, I've maybe go 238 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: down there with like a shield, you know, like a 239 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Captain America shield, have that hand with a. 240 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Spark a Spartan helmet, or like yeah, with the with 241 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: the push broom right, which is definitely like a centurion's 242 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: helmet with a big. 243 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: You know what, you should do that just a I'd 244 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: be like I then have one for Razor too. You 245 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: could have matching You got to go out and find 246 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: some matching helmets, or you should wear your football helmet. 247 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: I think people get a kick out of that. 248 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm not wearing that. 249 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, be a good sport. 250 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: I'll have a flashback or something. But that's gonna be 251 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: fun because I've I've I think I've been on the 252 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: glass maybe one game in my whole life, you know 253 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: when I was But obviously and I'm I'm gonna, yeah, 254 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: I got some stuff I want to talk to Razor 255 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: about during the broadcast too, about because I told you 256 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: you'll have a headset on, right, Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, 257 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I got I f B and everything. So they said 258 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: they were going to leave my mic open, so I 259 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: got to, oh, yeah, I tell oh yeah. I can't 260 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: believe it because then back in the day when I 261 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: played if, it's a different sport. So my team when 262 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: I was on I kind of transposed it onto Razors 263 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: teams and all those guys, right, I can't believe that 264 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: there isn't like a lottery in the locker room of 265 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: those guys that somebody during the game, if you're on 266 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: the ice, you got a zing one at Razor, don't. 267 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: You got to do that? That's not nice. Yeah, we 268 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: get really hurt. 269 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: You have to hit him, but you know, flip one 270 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: in there, flip one in there, just to let him know, 271 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, he s just rattle it around, make it like, 272 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: hey's tonight, sure turns, you know, to cast to rattle 273 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: one in, turning the fuck out or something. Yeah, he 274 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: got you gotta do it. Doesn't know they did it well, 275 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look at him, man. 276 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: He's that's not the careful about suggesting that, because you 277 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: got me right down there and he turned and talked 278 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: to somebody in the locker. I flip one at you. 279 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not That's not the first time it happens 280 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: to him. I mean it's happened. 281 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: Before, Yeah, which seems strange. 282 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: Well, like here's the thing, you know how it is 283 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: when you're on a broadcast. You start and I do 284 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: it all the time on this show. I look around, 285 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the computers. I'm you know, your eyes 286 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: go somewhere else and you're like this, and you know, 287 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: lose pay attention, pay attention, but you gotta you know, 288 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised the puck doesn't get in there 289 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: more than it does. 290 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm matching the elements. 291 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: I gotta figure out what I'm gonna I probably am't 292 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna weark probably a sport code or something, you know, just. 293 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: To that'll be good. I'm looking forward looking forward to 294 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: hearing you. 295 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I've always you know, 296 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Rob and I have always been kindred spirits. The way 297 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: we played and how you know, the kind of role 298 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: we play with it st there with the organization for 299 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: a long time. 300 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: I will say, having grown up going to hockey games 301 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: in the cheap seats up high, you have a much 302 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: greater appreciation for the speed of the game when you 303 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: are down low. Yeah, you know what, I had never 304 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: sat anywhere close to ringside in my life. And and 305 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: I remember when I was working for wg R Radio. 306 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: I was covering the Bills, but my friend Paul Hamilton, 307 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: who covers the Sabers, was on vacation, so I had 308 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: to go cover a couple of Sabers practices while he 309 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: was away. And for the first time, I'm just going 310 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: to a practice when you sit on the team the 311 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: visiting team bench to watch practice, and I mean, these 312 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: guys are just whizzing by me, and it's like this 313 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: is a practice setting. I was just I gotta I 314 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: got a whole new appreciation for how fast that game 315 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: moves when you're down when you ringside. 316 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: I've told people that a lot. You know, I spent 317 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: a lot of years obviously playing but also as a 318 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: report sideine reporter as well. And it's strike. It's shocked, 319 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: And people say, hey, what's it like you watch? I said, 320 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: don't don't ever watch a game from the sidelines, because 321 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: it'll never be the same for you. It is absolutely 322 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: from the collision stunning. It's stunning, how physical and how 323 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: fast it is, and how big those guys are and 324 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: the intensity you can kind of you can feel a tension, 325 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the emotional tension when you're down there. And it's the 326 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: same for hockey. I'm sure. I'm so. I'm looking forward 327 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: to it. It'll be fun, Me and Razor between them 328 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: between the benches. 329 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: We have one other Bill's note to pass along to you, 330 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: and this is dealing with reports of pre draft visits 331 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: which are coming fast and furious now. East Carolina corner 332 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: Chevon Revel, a projected first round pick who's recovering from 333 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: ACL reconstruction, is scheduled to visit the Bills, the Colts, 334 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: and the Vikings this week. According to NFL Network, he'll 335 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: also do the Combine medical recheck while he is in Indianapolis. 336 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: That is when they usually take place in April, so 337 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: he will do his combine medical recheck there and a 338 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: bunch of teams are going to be interested to see 339 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: how his knee looks. The good news for him is 340 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: he had surgery all the way back in October after 341 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: tearing his ACL in September. And so what does that 342 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: make him. He's now six months removed from surgery, right, 343 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: So I mean, if everything looks good, I think you 344 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: could be pretty sure he would be ready to go, 345 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, fully cleared for a training camp. I don't 346 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: know about you know, may OTAs or anything like that. 347 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: You think about NFL club he is, you're hoping that 348 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: you're medical people say, nah, he's gonna be fine. He's 349 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: not all this kind of stuff, and you hope nobody 350 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: else's does, right, And because he's he's one of these guys. 351 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: He's a six two hundred and ninety five two hundred 352 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: pound corner who is you know, can really scoot, and 353 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: he's got some skills and all that. Coming off of 354 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Major that's the kind of guy you can get, like 355 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: as a sixth rounder when he should be a first rounder. 356 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm hyperbolizing. It's not that big, but you know what 357 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean. You can get it on the fast round though, right, 358 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: see that, and so you hope that you can get 359 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a shot at him. Certainly he may be available at 360 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: thirty with a you know, with a coming off the injury, 361 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: because you're never guaranteed he's going to be back on 362 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: the field that fast. But this is why people are 363 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: because the guys, he's a dude and people are interested 364 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: in him. But he's got this injury, so it may 365 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: delay his ability to contribute. 366 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: So, as we know, the Colts pick fourteenth in round one, 367 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: the Vikings pick twenty fourth, Bill's pick thirtieth. He is scheduled, 368 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: according to reports, to visit all three teams this week. 369 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Healthy, 370 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. And since they 371 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: have new head coaches, the Bears, Patriots, and Jets are 372 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: all opening their voluntary offseason programs today. They can start 373 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: earlier because they have new head coaches. Some of the 374 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: other clubs with new coaches, like the Raiders, have elected 375 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: to start either at the regularly appointed time or maybe 376 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: a few days later. The Bill's offseason conditioning program opens 377 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: April twenty first, so two weeks from today draft visits. 378 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: In terms of others around the league, ESPN is reporting 379 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: the Penn State edge rusher Abdul Carter, widely expected to 380 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: be a top three pick in the draft, had breakfast 381 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: Sunday in State College, PA with New York Giants head 382 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: coach Brian Dable. Carter also is now scheduled to visit 383 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: the Giants on Thursday in New Jersey. So there's an 384 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: interesting shift in the thought process of the top three pick. 385 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: Steve cam Ward still widely expected to go first overall 386 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: to Tennessee, but now there is burgeoning talk and discussion 387 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: that the Browns are going to take Travis Hunter with 388 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: the second pick, which would leave Abdul Carter for the 389 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: Giants at number three. And I think they would run 390 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: the card up to take him and then focus on 391 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: quarterback later. So yeah, probably prompting. 392 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: No, No, here's the thing with cam Ward. Off the b 393 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: off the off the board, off the board? Is that what? 394 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: And that's the scenario you're describing? R Yeah, and. 395 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: One to the Titan and. 396 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter second. Well, here's the thing behind cam Ward. 397 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: There's some real question marks at the position. To quarterback. Yes, 398 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna take a guy and you don't 399 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: really believe he's gonna be a home run, don't take 400 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: him in the first round, because then you got all 401 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: the kinds of outside pressure that you got to play 402 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: and you gotta get him on the field. You got it. 403 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: If you take him in the third round, it's like, okay, 404 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: let's see how he does kind of thing. So a 405 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: team like the Giants and all these other teams might 406 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: just say, you know what, they're just they're not the guy. 407 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Shaduor Sanders isn't the guy. Jackson Dart is not the guy. 408 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: At least not a top ten guy, Right. 409 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: So we got to get a guy who could really 410 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: help us, which would then increase the likelihood of one 411 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: of those teams perhaps trying to move back into the 412 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: bottom of round one, and the Bills could be a 413 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: target at thirty for some of those teams trying to 414 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: move up from the top of the second round. Right, 415 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: they could get the guy trade down to get him. 416 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: It would alleviate you'd think it could alleviate a little 417 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: of the pressure picking him at the bottom of the 418 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: first And you know. 419 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what the I don't know. Ravens did 420 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: back in the day with Lamarn Jackson. 421 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: And they get that extra year of the contract. 422 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifth year option. 423 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: Right. 424 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: First round picks get a five year contract, not a 425 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: four year contract. 426 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: NFL Network is reporting that after working out for thirty 427 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: NFL teams last week, UCLA linebacker Carson Schwesssinger is on 428 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: a top thirty visit to the Ravens today. Schwessinger is 429 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: one of the top linebacker prospects in the class and 430 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: is seen as a late riser, likely to go late 431 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 2: in Round one. Now after he was widely considered a 432 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: second round pick and the Ravens do pick twenty seventh, 433 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: they're thinking they might pair him up with Rokwan Smith 434 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: as the two inside linebackers in their three four defense 435 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: good player player, heady player. Also, Louisville corner Quincy Riley 436 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: is visiting the Panthers today after visiting the Saints last week. 437 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: Florida State defensive tackle Joshua Parma visiting the Steelers and 438 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: then he goes to visit the Giants Tuesday, Patriots Wednesday. 439 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: He's widely considered to be a Day two selection. Miami 440 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: Dolphins left tackle toront Armstead finally called at a career, 441 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: retiring over the weekend. So the Dolphins, who need interior 442 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: line help, could also use some offensive tackle help. They 443 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: currently have their second round pick from last year, Patrick Paul, 444 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: penciled in as their starting left tackle, but o line 445 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: is expected to be addressed early in the draft by 446 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: the Dolphins, whether it's a player out on the edge 447 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: or an interior player, They're expected to address that offensive line. 448 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: And where the quarterbacks, fragilest, who do you have to 449 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they've done enough in the 450 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: last couple of years. 451 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Now, I agree, Well, Bill's fans have strong feelings about 452 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks because they've had to defend their even in the 453 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: midst of an MVP season or a couple of MVP seasons, 454 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: and so they they're sensitive to it. So yes, if 455 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: they know what it is to have a quarterback that 456 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: is seen as flawed. 457 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Well and he you know, Week two, he loses the 458 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: game and then gets a concussion and is out for 459 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: the next month and their season goes up in smoke 460 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: before they get to Halloween. 461 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: And there's yeah, yeah, don't get me started on him, 462 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: because I won't get what are you doing. Yeah, what 463 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: are you doing? What are you doing? I mean you're 464 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: throwing good money after you're going you're throwing good money 465 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: after back. 466 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: Three million a year for that guy. 467 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: And I tacked the hell out of it. The offense 468 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: isn't that tough to run? Drop back three, throw it 469 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: to the first read. If it's not there, then you 470 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: do what you whatever you can do because your offensive 471 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: line's gonna be caving in. Get a high school kid 472 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: to do that offense they've got there jumping through fiery 473 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: hoops to give him a chance to stay on the field. 474 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: The ball's got to be out of his hands and 475 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: half a second. We shouldn't talk about it because it 476 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: get We don't want to like any problems. They'll have 477 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: good Yeah, if they listen to us, they'd be better. 478 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: And we and we don't like them. 479 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 480 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. And Karen Armstead, you know, great great grig bless 481 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: his heart. Good for him. Julio Jones also retired over 482 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: the weekend. Yes, so some a couple of great players 483 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: at completely different positions on different teams who were very 484 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: respected around the league calling it quits. And I'm I've 485 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: always Yeah, it's a hard thing to do after having 486 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: a tremendous career. Those guys had phenomenal careers. Yeah, to 487 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: say goodbye to it and it's I know, it's a 488 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: hard thing for their families and them to deal with, 489 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: but they did it. Good for them. 490 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: You do remember who the backup quarterback is in Miami 491 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: now right? 492 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: I do not? Who is it? 493 00:24:54,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: It is one Zach Wilson back in the division? Go 494 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: go once again? What are we doing? 495 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna start against the Jets and light them up. 496 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 6: Oh you think so, It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna 497 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 6: be awesome. Zach Wilson will be in MetLife on opening. 498 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: Day throwing darts, just carving them up. Let's go, come 499 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: on man, as Steve, as Steve said. Former Atlantic Falcons 500 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones called it a career 501 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: over the weekend as well. Thirty six years old, seven 502 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: time Pro Bowl selection, two time first team All Pro 503 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: during his thirteen NFL seasons, Is he a Hall of 504 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: Famer Steve Julio Jones? 505 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, his career numbers his productivity on a 506 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: team that was a perennial struggler. 507 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: They did get to one Super Bowl. 508 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the twenty eight to three sy No, I would say, yes, 509 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is in my mind an absolute Hall of Famer. 510 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: He was a fantastic player at a very important position 511 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: for a team that really needed him. And it didn't 512 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: matter who was tossing it to him. No, Well he 513 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: had Matt Ryan doing it. 514 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: Yes, who was an MVP at one time. 515 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: So yes, I think Julio Jones is an absolute no. 516 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: Free agent quarterback Trey Lance signed a one year deal 517 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: worth just over six million dollars with the Los Angeles 518 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: Chargers over the weekend. He was pretty clued in that 519 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: he didn't have a future in Dallas after they made 520 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: a trade for Joe Milton with New England last week 521 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: to be the backup quarterback to Dak Prescott. So Lance 522 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: goes out to LA signs with the Chargers. He along 523 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: with Taylor Heineke, are going to back up Justin Herbert. 524 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucks coach Todd Bowles would like to see 525 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: his club ad corner back depth in the draft later 526 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: this month, he admitted in an interview with reporters, saying, quote, 527 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of depth. That's crystal clear 528 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: we hope to address that at some point in the draft. 529 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: We didn't sign many corners in free agency end quote. 530 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: So they did sign Kendall Vildor and Bryce Hall, but 531 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: both have really been backups for the majority of their career. 532 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: So you think about the Bills, who have one starting 533 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: cornerback spot to fill on the outside, you could argue 534 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: the Bucks might have two. And the thing the reason 535 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: I brought this up and put it in around the 536 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: NFL they picked nineteenth in round one, and that's I 537 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: think that's a very likely spot for a corner to 538 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: come off the board. So what does that prompt after it? 539 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: I guess is the thing I'm trying to think about here. 540 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Does it prompt a run at the position or what 541 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: does it leave Buffalo at thirty? If you know the 542 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: defensive line value is deteriorating rapidly, you know, can they 543 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: get still get the third best corner in the draft 544 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: or is it the fourth or the fifth? And do 545 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: you make a different decision because of that? So something 546 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: to think about, Yeah, yeah, you got it, that's one 547 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: team that's probably gonna go corner. I think so in 548 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: front of Buffalo. So that's why it brought. 549 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Up and it could be the first corner off the 550 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: board he sat, unless you can't count Travis Hunter as 551 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: a corner. 552 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got Will Johnson in that mix, joh 553 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: D Barron in that mix. So yeah, we'll have to see. 554 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: And a couple of SEC prospects have agreed to attend 555 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay. Alabama 556 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: quarterback Jalen Milroe and Georgia edge rusher Mike hal Williams 557 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: both gonna be in Green Bay for the draft. Williams 558 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: is probably gonna be taken off the board somewhere in 559 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: the teens in round one. Millroe was a little bit 560 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: of a head scratcher for some people because a lot 561 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: of people are saying, oh, he'll be a Day two pick, 562 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: second round, third round, And now there is increased h 563 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: pub and hype for Jaln Milroe, and now he's going 564 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: to go to the draft. So clearly he thinks he's 565 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: got an outside look at being a late first round 566 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: draft choice, and maybe he's one of those players that 567 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: will prompt a team in the top half of round 568 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: two to go into the bottom of round one and 569 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: just take him there. 570 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 7: I don't know. 571 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I was a little perplexed by 572 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: it too. I don't see Milroe as a first round pick, 573 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: but clearly he thinks he's got an outside look at it. 574 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: What was is he gonna sit in the green room 575 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: for two nights? 576 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: Right? Or it might be the fact that right now 577 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: he just says, well, if they're asking me, they must 578 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: know something. Or he says, I just want to do 579 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: it because I want to be one of those guys. 580 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: And he got the invite, so he's gonna got the invite, 581 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll go. 582 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: I think he might be waiting a little bit. 583 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: I think he is too. I think he's I think 584 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: it's an Aaron Rodgers scenario, you know, I. 585 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: Mean, maybe worse. Yeah, he might get tonight too, right, 586 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: he might be sticking, might be spending two nights in 587 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: the hotels. 588 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: And wouldn't it be for you that if you got 589 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: passed over for the entire first round? Don't you leave to. 590 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: Thank thanks? Guys. It's been great, it's been real. It's 591 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: been nice, but it hasn't been real nice. 592 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm leaving, that's right, I am gone. Thanks. 593 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, I do not know. 594 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know either Yeah, man, what are you gonna do? 595 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: I may just want to feel. 596 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think your your logic is is on though. 597 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: I think he just kind of wants to be a 598 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: part of it. 599 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: They invited me, and you know what, there is something 600 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: in this too if I'm a kid like that, given 601 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: my family situation with my mom and dad at the 602 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: time I got drafted. My I have three older brothers. Yeah, 603 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: they'd all want to be there. They'd want to go 604 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, And I'd do it for them, gotcha, 605 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: I'd do it. 606 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 607 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Let them go do it. And I know it's gonna 608 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: look bad for me if I don't get picked, and 609 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: I and actually, you know what, I'm not gonna get picked. 610 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: That mom and dad will have fun, you know, Yeah, 611 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: just give him the experience, you know what I mean, 612 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: gifted to your people. 613 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: I want to say, right, I want to say, there 614 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: was a player last year who attended the draft and 615 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: lasted until round two. 616 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Well, there always is, isn't there. 617 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: I think there was a straggler last year and he 618 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: finally he came back for night too. Yeah, and then 619 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: when he got picked, he came out and did the 620 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: whole shebang with Troy Vincent, not Roder Goodell, but there 621 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: it was. 622 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: It was hold On. 623 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: Let's see, I'm pretty sure there was one last year 624 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: when they had the draft. Where was it Kansas City 625 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: last year? 626 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was the guy here at the at 627 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of the it was Keon McConkey. 628 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: Or horror ro oh yeah, oh roll Row Row. 629 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: Jalen might have been Jalen Polk. No, no, it does 630 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: Andre Sweat somebody I don't know who it was, Jane 631 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: or somebody else, don't know, but yeah, it was one 632 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: of the You're right, it was one of those guys 633 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: that took a long. 634 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: Time and he stayed. He stayed, he didn't go hang 635 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, topic of discussion for you today. I 636 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: thought we'd have a little fun because, as we know, 637 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: over in the NHL world, Alex Ovechkin set the all 638 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: time goal scoring record, passing Wayne Gretzky with his eight 639 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety fifth career goal. So we thought we 640 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: would try to apply that to the NFL. Is there 641 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: an NFL player comp for Ovechkin with the NHL goal 642 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: scoring record eighth three five point fifty one eighty eight, 643 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get on board. 644 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: Got some open lines for you there. You could hit 645 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: us up on the tweets sheet at One Bill's Live. 646 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: Steve and I take a break here your phone calls 647 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: next on One Bill's Lives. 648 00:32:43,640 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: Stay with us all. 649 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: Right back here on One Bill's Live. Here on a 650 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: Monday edition, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Is there 651 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: an NFL player camp for Ovechkin with the NHL goal 652 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: scoring record? Because the statistics vary because you have different 653 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: positions obviously, doing different things recording different statistics than you 654 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 2: would have in a hockey game obviously or even in 655 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: the sport in its entirety. So you tell us what 656 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: you think the best player camp is in the NFL 657 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: for Ovechkin and what he did over the weekend with 658 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: the NHL goal scoring record eight O three five fifty 659 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. If you 660 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: want to talk draft too, that's totally fine. We'll take 661 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: your calls as well at eight O three oh five 662 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: fifty or on the tweets sheet at One Bills Live. 663 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: You can hit us over there if you don't have 664 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: time to make a phone call. Uh, But let's lead 665 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: off with Judy in Buffalo. What's up, Judy Hee, I 666 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: learn't talk draft. 667 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 8: I'm less to believe that the first up players to 668 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 8: be taking in a draft are less than spectacular. So 669 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 8: good luck to those teams. This is this is a 670 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 8: very bad year for the draft. And here we are, 671 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 8: the Bills be drafting at the end of the line, 672 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 8: and for the last three years, the bills number one 673 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 8: draft choice has been less than spectacular. I can even 674 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 8: see the Bills for going to number one draft choice 675 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 8: just to see what is available in the mop up afterwards. Uh, 676 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 8: you know, maybe that we shouldn't even turn in on 677 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 8: Thursday night because I don't think the Bills are gonna draft. 678 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: Well little draft that did happen last year. You're right, Judy, 679 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: they ended up not picking on night one. 680 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, Judy, You're right. You've got 681 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: to find a way to maximize what you've got for 682 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: players that you think can actually play. If there's only 683 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: if you can only get three players, you got to 684 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: do everything you can to trade up, do whatever to 685 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: get them. And if you can trade your picks away, 686 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: get more picks, either this year or next year when 687 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: the draft may be a little better You're right. It's 688 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: a thought exercise. It's like a board game. You trade 689 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: and barter and you evaluate, and the whole key to 690 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: it is and this is why you know you get 691 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: a consensus. Like, like you mentioned, it's not a great draft. 692 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: You're not a lot of blue chippers the top of 693 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: the draft and the guys who are real difference makers 694 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: is a shallow group this year. I get it. And 695 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: so now your evaluation becomes, how is there anybody in 696 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: this draft pool that we can get to help us? 697 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: And if you have to trade up, trade back, swap out, 698 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: sacrifice some picks this year, trade a player this year 699 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: and a pick and all the stuff we know that 700 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: can happen, you got to maximize it. That's what this is. 701 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: But it's a thought process. And what you're really doing 702 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: is you're pitting your crew, your team, your organization, and 703 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: their ability to evaluate players who have never played in 704 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: the NFL better than anybody else. You can find guys 705 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: nobody else can. You can pick guys better than anybody 706 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: else can. Or you know that there's a guy out 707 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: there that nobody thinks much of that you know will 708 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: thrive in your system or your building or whatever that's 709 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: all it is. You're right, everybody has a consensus. We've 710 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: been talking about it for three weeks. 711 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: Yes, And while I would agree that in terms of 712 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: superstars the draft is thin, I don't think it should 713 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: just be tossed aside as if there isn't anything to 714 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: be had here. Because the general consensus from people who 715 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: know this class front to back and have a good 716 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: handle on the three hundred and fifty on prospects believe 717 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: it is a very good starters draft. And what they 718 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: mean by that is, while you may not get the 719 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: perennial Pro Bowl, All Pro superstar type talent in this draft, 720 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: you can get yourself a lot of starters. And starters 721 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: are good. They can help your team win football games 722 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: because think about any team in the NFL. Do they 723 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: have twenty two superstars with eleven on offense and eleven 724 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: on defense. No, you need other guys that might be 725 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 2: a tick or two below that, but are darn good 726 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: players and are gonna play and start seventeen games a year. 727 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: There's value in that. And there are plenty of those 728 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: kinds of players in this year's class, and you got 729 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: to find them. 730 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what it is. You're right what you 731 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: just outline and your strategy, it may work. But you know, obviously, 732 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: if you're gonna start trading up and down and sideways 733 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: and for picks for players and players for picks, and 734 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: this year's picks versus next year's, you got to have 735 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: a partner. It's not just Brandon Bean cooking it up 736 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: and going and saying we're going to do this, and 737 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: then everybody automatically says, Okay, who's gonna do this with 738 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: Buffalo is? You got to find somebody else. So all 739 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: the brilliant moves, all the brilliant moves, Brownie and I 740 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: pontificate about here, you can't find anybody to do it 741 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem good to them to the other side. 742 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: So sometimes you're stuck. You're stuck. So it's just it's 743 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: a function of the draft. 744 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: But I think where the Bills are picking at thirty, 745 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: they've got a good chance to get a good, starting 746 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: caliber player. And if and look, with the development skills 747 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: that this coaching staff has, and there's a proven track 748 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 2: record of it, maybe that guy that has starting caliber 749 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: ability now can develop in to a Pro Bowl caliber player. 750 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, and I know it's a 751 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: label things a lot, and everybody kind of tends to 752 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: give meaning to those labels. But Keon Coleman's not a 753 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: first round pick, right, And I think as far as 754 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: disappointing as it was the way it ended, there was 755 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: a moment there in this first season before he got 756 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: injured where he looked like excited, there was a lot 757 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: to be excited about. And I still think that's there, 758 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: It's in there, and I think we have that to 759 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: look forward to, an extra added bit of contributions from 760 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: a guy that we didn't get that much out of 761 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: last year because of his injury. And let's not forget 762 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: he got injured, and then a couple of weeks later, 763 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: like a month later, he's trying to come back, and 764 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: they trade for Amari Cooper. Now all of a sudden, 765 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: now there's another guy in the in the mix, right. 766 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: They're trying to and they're trying to get something out 767 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: of a Mari. Uh. So it's you know, there's a 768 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: lot going on last year, and that for a young player, 769 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: that's really hard. So I'm I'm really high on Keon 770 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: and what he could bring to the table in this 771 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: coming year. I think he's gonna hit the ground running 772 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: when things take off here, and it'll we'll see if 773 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: it's if he is, you know, kind of a value 774 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: pick high in the second round instead of a first 775 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: round pick. But that's what you're looking at. You see, 776 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: he's the first player of the Bill's pick, but he 777 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: was a second round pick, and so I you know, 778 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere in the ballpark of thinking he's one 779 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: of the higher draft picks that the Bills have not 780 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: hit on. And when you say not hit on, I 781 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: don't know, it's a little early for that. But also, 782 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, all of those guys we've talked about, with 783 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: the exception of kir they've all been solid player, more 784 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: than solid players, with moments of really cool, really great play. 785 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: But they you know, drafting at twenty six, twenty three, whatever, 786 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight, now thirty, those guys don't fall that far. 787 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: Yep, we're still talking draft with you. But is there 788 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: an NFL player comp real Vetchkin with the NHL goal 789 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 2: scoring record to Kevin and Hamburg? Next? What's up Kevin? 790 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, how you doing mak for taking my call? 791 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: Sure? 792 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 4: Despite Justin Tucker having a dud year mostly this past year. 793 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 4: He's pretty much been a stud most of his career. 794 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 4: How many years he played this year probably his duddy 795 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 4: this year. But I'm gonna heed my pick. Justin Tucker. 796 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: What about what about Vinettieri, He's got twenty. 797 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 4: Points in the past, I thought, oh, I know, well, yeah, 798 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: that I guess you want to put him in. I 799 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 4: thought him more now but year, but yeah, the military good. 800 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 4: I also would have said Morton Anderson that he used 801 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 4: to kick for the Saints even during their stinky Bay. Yeah, 802 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 4: over the head years. 803 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: But for your comp it's it's the kicker with the 804 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: most points. That's kind of where you're coming from. 805 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much, Justin Tucker and yeah, Minitary, I didn't 806 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: know if you were going to stick something in the past, 807 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: but you better him now. 808 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: Justin yeahh okay, I get it. 809 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: That's fair enough. 810 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 2: I know it's not exactly sexy to make the NFL's 811 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: player comp to avection Avechkin a kicker, but yeah, like 812 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: twelve of them lead the lead the league all time 813 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 2: and points. Vinetaris at the top with twenty six hundred 814 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: and seventy three. So he's got the most points you've got, 815 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: sove can have the most points. I don't think he does. 816 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: He's got the most goals. I think Gretzky still has 817 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: him on total points. 818 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: And also yeah, in fact, that's that's true. I think 819 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: in fact, Gretzky's got him more assist than than goals. 820 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah than yeah, I mean he's he was in I 821 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: don't know, uh, you know. And then you've got guys 822 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: like Brady who's got six hundred and forty nine touchdowns 823 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. That's a big number. 824 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 2: Eighty nine thousand passing yard, right. 825 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's big. You know, there's a lot 826 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: of guys. Jerry Rice is certainly in a conversation for 827 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: one of the all time greats at that position. He's 828 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: got twenty three thousand receiving yards. 829 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 2: And no, no, he's got well, yeah, almost twenty three. 830 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: And also so he's got a two hundred and five touchdowns. 831 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: And twenty over twenty three thousand scrimmage yards totally yards. 832 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: Twenty three thousand scrimmageyards. 833 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, he's got almost twenty three thousand of them. 834 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: Is receiving, right, and he's got over he's got two 835 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: hundred receiving touchdowns, two hundred I think Emmett's got a 836 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: bucks seventy five. 837 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty four rushing touchdowns for Emmitt Smith 838 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 2: and he's the all time leading rushing touchdown leader. But yeah, 839 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: that's why we're like, who's the cop, Like. 840 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: It's it's apples to orange? Is no question, two different sports, Stu. 841 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: But and you know, a in a game like hockey, 842 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: it's not uncommon for everybody to be able to score. 843 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: You know, defenseman score, you know, center score, goalies don't. 844 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: But in football, there's only a handful of guys that 845 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: will score touchdowns in a year. You're not gonna have 846 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: a center offensive center score one hundred and fifty touchdowns 847 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: in his career. So it's a it's apples to oranges 848 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: a little bit. But I think that's yeah, and that's 849 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, that's why people talk about the Hall of Fame. 850 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: He got these guys that stand out doing what they do, 851 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: and they don't all do the same thing, right, and 852 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: they all do completely different stuff. 853 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but we're still 854 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: talking draft with you. And is there an NFL player 855 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: comp for Ovechkin with the NHL goal scoring record eight 856 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, 857 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: five fifty the number to jump on board. We'll lead 858 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 2: off with Miran and Virginia and we return here on 859 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 860 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: Is there an NFL player comp for Ovechkin with the 861 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: NHL goal scoring record? We, Steve and I have been 862 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 2: knocking that around, so chime in on that if you wish. 863 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: At eight O three oh five fifty. Otherwise, we are 864 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: still talking draft as it is just over two weeks 865 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 2: away until the Tennessee Titans are on the clock. 866 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: Sixteen days, is it the way? Something like that? 867 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little over two weeks. Yeah, Thursday, let's go. 868 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 2: But back to the phones, we go at EIGHTO three 869 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: oh five fifty two. Mirran in Virginia, what do you 870 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 2: got for as. 871 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 9: Miron Kay John a longtime listener, first time caller. I 872 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 9: want to think out for taking my call, Steve. I 873 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 9: want to thank you for signing some autographs. Yeserien se Hilly, Virginia. 874 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 9: I really appreciate you signed stuff that I had for you. 875 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you signed. You came with the whole Mirron, you 876 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: came with the whole buffle bag. Full of stuff, right. 877 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,959 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, sir, right, yeah, yeah, you signed a Minnie 878 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 9: Helder for my son daughter, para gloves, a big helmet, 879 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 9: and uh one one more one more thing that I 880 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 9: wish you had have signed a jersey, but I don't 881 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,439 Speaker 9: e gat youre in time. Nonetheless, thank you again, Steve 882 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 9: for doing all that for many You bet the My 883 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 9: questions were follows on the draft. If the war were 884 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 9: to fall ideally are a way, what would you predict 885 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 9: the first three round positions would be taking round one, two, 886 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 9: and three if if the board fell the way we 887 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 9: were looking forward to fall. 888 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: I think it'll be two D linemen and a corner 889 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: or or vice versa, two corners and a and a 890 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: level D lineman somebody who's like, wow, I can't believe 891 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: the Bill's got that guy kind of guy. So that's 892 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: what I think. I think it'll be three defensive players, 893 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: and I think it'll be two big guys in a corner. 894 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I think maybe a corner, then two big guys. 895 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 2: I think in a perfect world it might be two 896 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: defensive tackles in a corner. And right, you want to 897 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: get an edge even later, do that, but yeah, I'd 898 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 2: be fine, with a dt an edge and a corner too. 899 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: But I just think Corner is sticking out like a 900 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: sore thumb right now. 901 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: And I think there's gonna be a really good one 902 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: available at thirty because because of the D line stuff, 903 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: you know, and because there's so many D linemen available, uh. 904 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: Well, and we're expecting big people to go early generally, 905 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: as they tend to do every year, right so. 906 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: And the corners are kind of plentiful. There's I mean, 907 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: there's a you know, a handful or more than a 908 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: handful of guys who people think can really go. So 909 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: I think Corner might be the guy that the Bill take, 910 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: just because of the way the draft is gonna fall 911 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: and the fact that I think they think, or I 912 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: think most people think that the Bills will be able 913 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: to get good players at number fifty six and number 914 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: sixty two at their next run two picks. 915 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: And even if there is a run on big people 916 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: or defensive linemen, just to generalize here, if there is 917 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: a run on them, like through the twenties, and there 918 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 2: are a lot of teams there that you can make 919 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: a case need defensive line help. So if the cupboard 920 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: is there in terms of value, for the Bills. Well, 921 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 2: that's when you pivot and you get one of the 922 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: best corners in the draft. And then the best thing 923 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: is come round two. All those teams that sit in 924 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: front of you that have taken defensive linemen aren't going 925 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 2: to pick another one, presumably in most cases, in round two, 926 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: and so maybe a good value can slide to you 927 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 2: in round two on the defensive line. That would be 928 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 2: a great way for it to unfold. 929 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: Right, you could do a lot worse than that, that's right, 930 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: of course, all this depends on thirty one other team 931 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: teams doing what we want them to do. 932 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: Yes, uh, guys, we need you to comply. You'd be 933 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: helping us out if you did good ABCD and F 934 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 2: thanks so much, right, and I promise you will do 935 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: the same thing for you next year. There's something ridiculous 936 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: like that. Getting back to this ov conversation, I have 937 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 2: a problem, you know, as one of our callers suggested 938 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: comparing Ovechkin's goal scoring record to the all time points 939 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: leader in the NFL, which is Adavanent Harry at twenty 940 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 2: six hundred and seventy three, there's something wrong about giving 941 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 2: the nod to the kicker and comparing him to the 942 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: best goal scoring player in the history of the National 943 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: Hockey League. It doesn't. I realize to your point, it's 944 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 2: apples and oranges, But to me, it just doesn't work. 945 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 2: So is it Rice who has more yards than anybody 946 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: in the history of the league. Is it Brady who's 947 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 2: got more touchdown passes or more passing yards? Is it emittt. 948 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: Smith who's got the most rushing yards and the most 949 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns. I don't know. I don't know that there's 950 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 2: a good answer here. 951 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: No, there's a couple of entries onto the tweets she 952 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of people have tweeted at us 953 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: since right you Gretzky and Ovechkin or different. Gretzky was 954 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: all around man. The guy he has like a gazillion 955 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 1: assists as well as goals. If you took his goals 956 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: off his point total, he still leads the league in points. 957 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Yeah, he's unbelievable. So if you 958 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: if you go back to you know, come up with 959 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: comparison like it's Gretzky and it's like a guy like 960 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: Reggie White in comparison to Ovi and Bruce Ovi's and 961 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: Brooke brus so pure, although I think it takes a 962 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: little bit away from Bruce's ability to stop the run 963 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: and willingness to stop the run. But it's that kind 964 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: of comparison. Maybe Gretzky was a better all around player 965 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: or perceived as and Ovie was a little specialized. 966 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: Well, I just think the disconnect here for me is 967 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 2: Gretzky's one of the best players, probably the best players 968 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 2: to ever play the game, and Ovechkin's right up there too. 969 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: He's probably in most people's top five. Adam Vin Terry 970 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 2: is not, you know what I mean, Jerry Rice probably is, 971 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 2: Tom Brady probably is, Emmitt Smith probably is. So do 972 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 2: you shift there? And then what do you do with 973 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 2: to your point, defensive players? Are they just completely at 974 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 2: discounted out of hand to try to get a comp here? 975 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 976 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Bruce and Reggie White. I mean, Bruce 977 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: has got two hundred, Lawrence Taylor, what do we do Taylor? Yeah? 978 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 1: Darryl Green? 979 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 2: How far you want to go? 980 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: Mike Haynes, I mean you go down the list of 981 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: tremendous defensive players and you know, and then I think 982 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah, you can't even make that. You can hardly. 983 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: It's hard to even make the compared when you start 984 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: picking positions like, okay, Jerry Rice probably stands alone, there's one. 985 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: But then you know, and Brady maybe for all, for 986 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 1: his longevity and his championships and all that. But then 987 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: you go like, what are youna do at running back? 988 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna take Emmett or you're gonna take Jim Brown, 989 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna take Walter, Barry, Sanders, Therm, Who are you 990 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: gonna take Ladanian, Tomlinson, Marshall Falk Who are you gonna 991 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: take at that spot? 992 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, I mean. 993 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: That's that's a hard thing. You know. Inside lineback, you 994 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: can go with Dick Butkus or are you gonna go 995 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: with you know, ray Lewis, ray Nichke, you know, the 996 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 1: guy who's the guy from the Kid from Carolina, the 997 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: one Loukeiley. You know, there's some you know, so you 998 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: can't even pick guys amongst in the NFL. Who's the 999 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You can't quantify what they 1000 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: did tackles. Okay, that's one thing, but you know, I mean, come. 1001 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 2: On, yeah, easier said than done. And I just think 1002 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: it's because you have too many different positional responsibilities in 1003 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 2: the sport of football as opposed to hockey. We only 1004 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: got six guys on the ice, and the goaltender is 1005 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 2: really the only person truly doing different stuff. I realize 1006 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 2: there's a difference between defenseman and forwards, but you know 1007 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I think it's too varied a sport 1008 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: to kind of come up with an appropriate comp and 1009 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 2: I think most people would gravitate to quarterback. But I 1010 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 2: don't know that that's totally right or fair, especially the 1011 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,439 Speaker 2: defensive players. But that's just me. Gotta take a break here. 1012 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna talk more draft as 1013 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 2: we launch the latest edition of Mock Draft Watch with 1014 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 2: Bill's team reporter Maddie Labs. She joined us in studio. 1015 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health. 1016 00:52:40,000 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 10: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1017 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. 1018 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 2: All Right, second hour of the show here on a Monday, 1019 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker One Bill's Live, and joining us 1020 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 2: in studio al Bill's team reporter Maddy for the latest 1021 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 2: edition of Mock Draft Watch six point six point, which 1022 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: is already available on Buffalo Bills Dot com if you'd 1023 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 2: like to take a further look into the latest statistics. 1024 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 2: But Maddie is here to break him down for us. 1025 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,479 Speaker 2: So what what is? What is the headline of Mock 1026 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 2: Draft Watch six point oh if there was? 1027 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 11: Okay? Headline of Mock Draftwatch six point zero is the 1028 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 11: fact the defensive tackles weren't the favorite this time around. 1029 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 11: We've seen defensive tackle getting mocked to the Bills in 1030 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 11: droves since we've been tracking them, and this time around 1031 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 11: the favorite was cornerback and edge rusher. So I thought 1032 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 11: it was interesting to see a bunch of edge rushers 1033 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 11: in there this time around as well. But your favorites 1034 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 11: out of the eleven that we tracked this time around 1035 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 11: still Kenneth Grant was mocked to the Bills twice, the 1036 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 11: defensive tackle out of Michigan. He's been the all time 1037 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 11: favorite mocked to the Bills, let's see sixteen different times 1038 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 11: since we've started to track. And the other favorite this 1039 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 11: time around a name we have yet to see. Edge 1040 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 11: rusher Landon Jackson out of Arkansas. 1041 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: Wow, he got mocked to the. 1042 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 11: Bills twice all the way up to round one. We 1043 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 11: also saw a crazy trade which we're going to talk 1044 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 11: about that player who was involved in the Bills trading 1045 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 11: up quite a bit to number nineteen, if you can. 1046 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: Believe it, Tampa for a. 1047 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 11: Very very talented cornerback. So's that's what we saw in 1048 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 11: mock draft watch six point zero. But if you're looking 1049 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 11: at this big picture wise, we've tracked more than eighty 1050 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 11: so far. Of those eighty, defensive line remains the favorite, 1051 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 11: being mocked to Buffalo forty two times, so about fifty 1052 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 11: percent out of those forty two twenty nine defensive tackles 1053 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 11: and thirteen edge rushers. Next up, cornerback has been mocked 1054 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 11: to the Bills twenty three times, and number three is 1055 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 11: wide receiver being mocked to the Bills ten times. 1056 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 2: Can't let it go? Are you guys like me, Like 1057 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: when you see something being played out or called out 1058 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,240 Speaker 2: a certain way umpteen number of times, aren't you convinced 1059 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 2: the other way? Like people are predicting this to happen 1060 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: too much. It's there's no way that's gonna happen. 1061 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 3: Now. 1062 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: It's almost like it's appeared so many times it can't happen. 1063 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: Grant has That's what I'm talking about. Ken Krant has 1064 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: no shot of being a Buffalo. 1065 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Like we've seen it so 1066 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 2: many times now, I just don't believe there's anyway that's 1067 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 2: gonna possibly happen. 1068 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 11: Okay, well, let's jump back to last year because I 1069 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 11: have this all available to me right now. The favorite 1070 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 11: names last year were Ad and I Mitchell out of 1071 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 11: Texas and Brian Thomas Junior out of LSU. Mitchell was 1072 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 11: mocked to the Bills thirty six different times, and Brian 1073 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 11: Thomas Junior was mocked to the Bills thirty four different times. 1074 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 11: The Bills didn't even stay in the first round last year. 1075 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: And those guys were gone. 1076 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 2: They were gone, they were gone. 1077 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1078 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1079 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 11: A little bit later though, Oh he was. 1080 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 2: Second round, the second round pick of the Colts. Yeah, seay, 1081 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 2: he was like thirty nine or something, but Thomas went 1082 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 2: early to the Jags. 1083 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1084 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 2: Well good, I'm I'm glad that that's kind of what 1085 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 2: recent history says. Anyway, Yes, and when you're picking thirty 1086 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 2: it's like we've said, so many dang things can happen 1087 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 2: if funny anyway, that it doesn't really matter. We've got 1088 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 2: a handful of players here to highlight in this edition 1089 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: of mock Draft Watch six point zero because these are 1090 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 2: names that have been associated with the Bills, so we 1091 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 2: know there are people here in Western New York still 1092 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 2: on the wide receiver train, even though in each of 1093 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 2: the last two drafts the first pick the Bills of 1094 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: utilized was on an offensive pass catching player Kean Coleman, 1095 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 2: you know Don Kincaid in there. So I am not 1096 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 2: convinced they are taking a receiver. I'm not saying it 1097 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 2: won't happen, but I think it's on the unlikely side 1098 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 2: of likely. Nevertheless, let's just amuse ourselves. 1099 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 11: That's what we're doing. 1100 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: With Ohio State wide receiver a Mecca book. 1101 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 11: We're amusing ourselves because if it's been mocked to us, 1102 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 11: why not let's talk about it. Let's talk about the option, 1103 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 11: let's talk about who this player is. So Meca Buka 1104 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 11: obviously comes out of Ohio State. He's been mocked to 1105 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 11: the Bills three different times. So we've seen this a 1106 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 11: few times throughout the last few weeks. Six', one two 1107 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 11: hundred and two, pounds he had one thousand receiving yards 1108 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 11: last season along with ten, touchdowns was a team. Captain 1109 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 11: and when you talk About Amcca buka to other people 1110 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 11: who know him the he has glowing reviews about who 1111 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 11: he is as a player and as a. Person, obviously 1112 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 11: won the college Football playoff last, year so was involved 1113 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 11: in some really big games when you. 1114 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 3: Turn on the. 1115 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 11: Tape he's a fluid receiver with good size and strong 1116 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 11: hands who works mostly in the. SLOT i Think abuka 1117 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 11: can make tough catches in. Traffic he does a great 1118 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 11: job of adjusting his body quickly to make a catch 1119 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 11: that throws off the defense of how do we play. 1120 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 11: Him he's got a baseball, background SO i think that 1121 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 11: kind of shows up with the quick reflexes that he. 1122 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 11: Has AND i Think abuka does a great job of 1123 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 11: looking upfield when he gets his hands on the football 1124 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 11: to get as much yak as. Possible what do you, 1125 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 11: guys what do you like? 1126 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 2: About is he too much like Ke, no he's too 1127 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 2: much Like Khalil shakir inestimation BECAUSE i WATCHED i watched him. 1128 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: PLAY i THINK i watched like four of his. Games 1129 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 2: He's Khalil. Shakir that's who he. Is he's the same. 1130 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 2: Guy short to intermediate, ROUTES uh good at getting, separation 1131 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 2: whether it's man or. Zone knows where to sit. Down 1132 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 2: they use them occasionally on end around stuff and some gimmick, 1133 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 2: plays but not so much because they have more explosive 1134 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 2: guys on their, roster like the what is It Donovan 1135 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 2: smith is their superstar receiver is only a. Sophomore BUT 1136 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 2: i watch him play And i'm, like we got a 1137 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: guy that does that all that. Already his Name's Khalil, 1138 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 2: shakir who just signed an. Extension by the WAY i, 1139 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 2: MEAN i mean he has return experience Like Khalil, Shakir 1140 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 2: SO i don't know a nice. PLAYER i like, him 1141 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 2: BUT i think we already have that player on the. Roster, 1142 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 2: yes that's exactly WHAT i. 1143 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 11: Wrote like if we were in the fifth or round 1144 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 11: or seventh, thrown LIKE i could understand like adding another 1145 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 11: wide receiver who maybe has similar traits to somebody else 1146 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 11: on the, roster because maybe you want to grow him 1147 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 11: into becoming something, similar but not the first. 1148 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 2: Round, Yeah AND i don't even know IF i don't 1149 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 2: even know if he's going to be a first round. 1150 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 2: PICK i think he's more of a second round selection 1151 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: because while he is really good at a lot of, 1152 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 2: things he is not like, excellent true or superstar POTENTIAL 1153 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: i think he's going to be a very solid player 1154 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 2: in THE. Nfl he'll be a two or three for 1155 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: some team and be. Productive BUT i THINK i think with, 1156 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: him especially having played four years of, college he is 1157 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 2: what he is AND i don't think THERE'S i think 1158 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 2: there's a limited ceiling for. HIM i think people look 1159 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 2: at his tape and they, say all, right this is 1160 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 2: what he is and if he can do that in THE, nfl, 1161 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 2: great but he's never going to be more than that 1162 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 2: at THE. Nfl, yeah he was very. 1163 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Productive they had a thousand yards last, year eighty one, 1164 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Receptions he's touchdowns two thousand. Season he's got so production 1165 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: and he's. Consistent, true so he does bring something to the. Table. 1166 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: YEAH i for, me that position in particular strikes me 1167 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: as one that The bills are going to. Be like you, Said, 1168 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: brownie the last couple of drafts and the fact That 1169 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: josh did it last year with different guys from the year, 1170 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: before it has a chilling. EFFECT i, mean how many, 1171 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: guys how good of guys you? Need when you Got josh, 1172 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Exactly i'm not saying we don't have good. GUYS i 1173 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: think this year's group already is an upgrade over last. 1174 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 11: Year one important thing to note about the mock drafts 1175 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 11: That i've seen A Mecha boo go mock to us 1176 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 11: at number thirty is BECAUSE i think before The bills 1177 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 11: are on the, board you're seeing a lot of the 1178 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 11: defensive linemen already off the. Board you're seeing a lot 1179 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 11: of the corners, gone and you're seeing a lot of 1180 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 11: the safety's. Gone so it's kind of like these mock 1181 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 11: drafts that have him going TO us at number, thirty 1182 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 11: it's like what else is? Available and at that, point 1183 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 11: if that's what's, Available not saying he's a bad player at, 1184 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 11: all but maybe The bills think, about, well maybe wide 1185 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 11: receiver doesn't make sense for us, here let's move. 1186 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: Out. 1187 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 2: YEAH i could see that happening more than them taking 1188 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 2: a receiver. 1189 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Or you know What i've been saying, Though, mandy what 1190 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: do you think the odds are that they do pick at? 1191 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 11: THIRTY i think if we see a run on defense, 1192 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 11: EARLY i think they move up or they move. BACK 1193 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 11: i think it makes so much, sense and many more 1194 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 11: of the mock drafts That i've been seeing, lately the 1195 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 11: run on defensive positions is starting earlier than they have 1196 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 11: in the BEGINNING. 1197 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 2: I have a fee knows WHAT i have a fear 1198 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: that what we're gonna witness is something similar to the 1199 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 2: receiver run we saw last. Year bills were in the 1200 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 2: market for a, receiver we saw a receiver. Run bills 1201 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 2: are in a market for a defensive. Tackle AND i 1202 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 2: think you're going to see the defensive tackle run start 1203 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 2: right around nineteen twenty twenty one somewhere in. There and 1204 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: if you look at the teams that come after, them 1205 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 2: you can make a case for defensive line for about 1206 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 2: five out of the next, six AND i could see 1207 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 2: a run starting. There my hope is there's value on 1208 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 2: the board at. Corner so, okay defensive tackle class is 1209 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 2: run dry here in the first round in terms of, 1210 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 2: value let's pivot to corner because we can get the 1211 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,479 Speaker 2: third best corner in the draft at. THIRTY i would 1212 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 2: be really happy with, that And i'm kind of hoping 1213 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 2: that's how it unflash if there is a. 1214 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Run Brian, thomas who is like the fourth guy that 1215 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: we had always named in that wide receiver. Crew last, 1216 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: year he got taken at twenty three By, jacksonville and 1217 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: he got down and then he got to twenty eight 1218 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: and The bills And chiefs made that that that big. 1219 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,479 Speaker 1: Switcheroo so From Xavier worthy at twenty, eight the next ten, 1220 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: picks six of them were one position wide out Ye, 1221 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: worthy Pearsol, Legette Keon lad McConkie Jalen. Polk you. Know 1222 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: six of ten picks were one spot yea. 1223 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 2: And a Rund run a little bit higher than. That, so, 1224 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 2: yeah the g was Getting Brian. 1225 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Thomas was the, guy the last guy of the upper. 1226 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Club he was like the fourth. Guy those top three 1227 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: guys at dounza who is, It Dory Marvin, Harrison Malik. Neighbors, 1228 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: yep you, know and those three guys everybody knew they 1229 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: were starters number one. Guys here we. Are and then 1230 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 1: it got to, where, OKAY i think it's you, Know 1231 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, Junior and sure enough it was at twenty. 1232 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: Three man oh. Man it was a fast and furious 1233 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 1: white house right at the end of the first beginning 1234 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: of the. 1235 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 2: Second all, Right so if defensive tackle is scrubbed, clean 1236 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 2: corner value doesn't look. Good ed rusher could be a, 1237 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 2: pivot a pivot for The bills at the end of 1238 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 2: round one and there's a guy getting. Mocked is how 1239 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 2: popular is this guy of late. 1240 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 11: Five, times so he's in the third tier of names we're, 1241 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 11: Seeing So Kenneth grant is the. Favorite then we See 1242 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 11: Maxwell harriston the cornerback out Of kentucky has been mocked 1243 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 11: to The bills eight, times and then there's a group 1244 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 11: that's been mocked six. Times So Donovan azraku is right 1245 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:02,919 Speaker 11: there at five. 1246 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Times, yeah this is an interesting pick For buffalo because 1247 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 2: he doesn't fit the physical stature that they usually look 1248 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 2: for at defensive. End he's only six foot. Two he's 1249 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 2: got thirty four inch arms, though which kind of helped 1250 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: make up for the lack of. Height AND i don't 1251 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 2: think he. Ran he did not run even in his pro. 1252 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Day for, him he didn't run at his pro day, 1253 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 2: either which a lot of players are strangely. Doing but 1254 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 2: it makes you feel like they're, hiding trying to hide. 1255 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 2: Something he's a small, guy, YEAH i mean he's kind of, 1256 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 2: LIKE i guess he's Like Jerry hughes, size you, know six,' two, 1257 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 2: you know two. Forty something, so yeah it's not the 1258 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 2: typical defensive end Prospect the bills usually sign, up for 1259 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 2: but it's hard to argue with sixteen and a. 1260 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: HALF sacks, i, Know right that's the Thing. 1261 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 11: With ezraku you. Have production sixteen and a half sacks 1262 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 11: last year he LED. The fbs he won college football's 1263 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 11: top defensive, end Award The Ted. Hendricks award he WAS 1264 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 11: The Acc defensive player Of the year. Last year twenty 1265 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 11: eight sacks in, his career and like, You, said. Brownie 1266 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 11: undersized but what shows up on tape are, those arms 1267 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 11: thirty four, inch arms and he uses them, for stunts 1268 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 11: to slip, off blocks to pull. Quarterbacks in It makes 1269 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 11: azraku look longer than he. Actually is he's a hard 1270 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 11: hitter that forces fumbles six forced fumbles in. His career 1271 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 11: he knows how to get to the quarterback and. Affect 1272 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 11: him he has some bursts once he. GETS going I 1273 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 11: think ezraku shows off, his speed but undersized and does 1274 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 11: it make sense For. The bills he had a productive 1275 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 11: Career With. BOSTON college i believe with good Coaching as 1276 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 11: iraku can continue to develop as. A player but does 1277 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 11: that make sense For the bills at? 1278 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: Number thirty and. 1279 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 2: There's also questions about him holding up against, the run setting, 1280 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 2: the edge all of, those things and those are important 1281 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 2: things at least in terms of How the bills run. 1282 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 2: THEIR defense i thought he had a good set of pass, 1283 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Rush moves like he's got a, rip move he's got, 1284 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 2: spin move and he has this double handed swipe move 1285 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 2: where he just knocks the arms of the offensive tackle. 1286 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 2: Off him that's. Really effective so he's. GOT skills I 1287 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 2: just i think teams are going to take a long 1288 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,919 Speaker 2: look at his ability to hold up in the, run 1289 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 2: front because there's some people that even think when he 1290 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 2: first starts in the league he's only going to be 1291 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 2: a pass rush specialist until he figures out the run. Defense. 1292 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Part yep you look at his athleticism. And gifts they 1293 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: got this. Pie shape he's got a great. Forty time 1294 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 1: his shuttle, time's great his, vertical's great his three, cones 1295 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,479 Speaker 1: great his broad, jumps great and he's got those. Long 1296 01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: arms but, his, arms, hands height and weight are all 1297 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: at the bottom of. The, CLASS arms i mean, his hands, 1298 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: weight height he's. 1299 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Got, nothing yeah thirty five and a half inch vertical 1300 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 2: did the three cone in under, seven seconds which is 1301 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 2: a good indication. 1302 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: And congility, Yeah Yeah so, i'm. 1303 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 2: Like under seven seconds FOR a dB. Is good he's 1304 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 2: doing it at. 1305 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Pass rusher he strikes you as, an overachiever one of 1306 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: those guys because he's, you know, he's short, he's light 1307 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: his hands, are small and everything else. 1308 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Tests great he uses that lack of height to his 1309 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 2: advantage because a lot of times he'll come around the 1310 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 2: edge and he'll dip his shoulder under the tackle because he's. 1311 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 2: So short but the thing is IN, the nfl tackles, are, 1312 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 2: long man. 1313 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: And they'll just, just, he's yeah he's. NOT strong i 1314 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: mean he's his bench press thing was very low on twenty, 1315 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 1: two reps so he's, you know he. IS not. 1316 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a first rounder because. IS 1317 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 2: measurable i think he's a borderline. First rounder and maybe 1318 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 2: that's why he's. Getting, mocked man he To the bills because, they're, 1319 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 2: like well he'll probably still be on. The board i'll 1320 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 2: give him him as. 1321 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 11: A rocker we don't know number thirty thirty to just 1322 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 11: throw something at. 1323 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: The team it's a little bit what we, have HERE 1324 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and i DON'T think i think if you're a Team, 1325 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: like buffalo think. About this that's mock, draft, MENTALITY right, i. 1326 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: Mean yeah here's. 1327 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 1: WHO'S left i think teams are not like that. 1328 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 2: At, all, well no because it actually matters. To, that 1329 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 2: yeah you get a, mock drafter he gets, you know 1330 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 2: it's like. Eleven o'clock his deadline is. 1331 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: Eleven thirty he's twenty of, these already. 1332 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Somebody on defense just as. A rock let's put him. 1333 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: In there put him, in there, and seriously you know. 1334 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 1: That Happens and i'll say, this too there's some there's 1335 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: things they. Don't, know like, for instance some of these 1336 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: guys have some red flags about. Their character, get it and. 1337 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,639 Speaker 1: THEIR teams I think buffalo is, like this or they're 1338 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 1: going to listen he's off. 1339 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 2: Or, board yeah or at least they'll put a red 1340 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 2: mark next his name and, be, like hey let's just 1341 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 2: be wary. Of, this yes this could, you know. 1342 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: If he drops two, grades below if he drops two 1343 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 1: rounds below where we think, he is we may take 1344 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: him to two, rounds later you KNOW what, i mean 1345 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: that kind. Of, thing, so yeah so some of these 1346 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: guys have they just the guys don't understand the mentality of. 1347 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: The building, and yeah there are certain things the teams 1348 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: hold in more high regard than. Mock drafters. 1349 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 2: Very true so, all right so the last player that 1350 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 2: we were going to focus on is ONE that i 1351 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 2: don't think anybody feels we would even have a chance 1352 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 2: of getting a Whiff of and yet somebody mocked a 1353 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 2: trade up For. The bills and if they can land, 1354 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 2: THIS guy i think you should be pretty, dang. 1355 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,520 Speaker 11: HAPPY right i am in love with. THIS player i 1356 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 11: hope that he slips a little bit to get somewhere 1357 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 11: Near within buffalo's reach of. Trading up so this mock 1358 01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 11: draft was FROM. Pff dln wasserman Mocked Cornerback will johnson 1359 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 11: Out of Michigan to buffalo at. Number nineteen So the 1360 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 11: bills are moving up quite. A Bit tampa bay sits 1361 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 11: at number nineteen to go grab. THIS corner i hadn't 1362 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 11: gotten the chance to watch him YET because i felt 1363 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 11: like he was so out. Of reach why watch one 1364 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 11: of the top corners when he's gonna be off. The 1365 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 11: board but if he's mocked, To us i'm gonna turn 1366 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 11: on the tape, and my. OH my i was Mesmerized by. 1367 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 11: Johnson's film he has, incredible instincts plays the position like 1368 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,719 Speaker 11: he was born to. Play cornerback he has a knack 1369 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 11: for finding the end zone when he picks. It off 1370 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 11: johnson is a hunter who oozes. With confidence everything looks 1371 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 11: like a big Play. For johnson, he's athletic has a, 1372 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:51,440 Speaker 11: tall frame can read and anticipate. Super effectively two interceptions, 1373 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 11: last season, Two touchdowns THIRD Team Ap. All american he 1374 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,640 Speaker 11: missed time with a foot injury. Last season injuries have 1375 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 11: been something that's been a part of, his past so 1376 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 11: that's a question mark for him. Moving forward, but my, 1377 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 11: oh my what a. Talented, player yeah and. 1378 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 2: You know people, are, like well he didn't have as 1379 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 2: good as twenty twenty four as a twenty twenty, three 1380 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 2: SEASON but i think he was playing with the turf, 1381 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,799 Speaker 2: toe injury so he wasn't, as effective and then after 1382 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 2: six games just kind of shut. It down the THING 1383 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 2: that i noticed about him is he plays corner in 1384 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 2: a little bit different way than a lot of College 1385 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 2: prospects i've seen over. The years you know how corners 1386 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 2: sometimes will get caught peeking at the quarterback in. The 1387 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 2: backfield he doesn't. DO that i think he locks onto, 1388 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 2: the RECEIVER and i think he does film study and 1389 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 2: understands how that receiver runs, his route and he anticipates 1390 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,639 Speaker 2: where the ball is going based on how the receiver's running, 1391 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 2: his route not by peaking at the quarterback to see where. 1392 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 2: He's looking he relies on his knowledge of the receiver's, 1393 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 2: route RUNNING and i think that's why he gets as 1394 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 2: many intersetsptions as. He does it's. 1395 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 11: So, good okay if he's available, at nineteen do you 1396 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 11: think did They the bills have an opportunity to trade up? 1397 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 12: For him. 1398 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 11: They didn't they didn't say what we're? Giving up, come 1399 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 11: on you'd have to give up all quickly, scroll through 1400 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 11: but you. 1401 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Have to give. Up, ninety well you'd have to give 1402 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Up rich hill on The rich hill value to get up. 1403 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 2: To Nineteen. 1404 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Tell, us tasker it's two hundred and seventy eight. Point, Points, okay. 1405 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 11: No, they, did okay Trade terms bills received, number Nineteen 1406 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 11: pick bucks received number thirty and number. 1407 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 2: Sixty, two yeah so you're giving up your one and 1408 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 2: one of your twos to. 1409 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 3: Do it. 1410 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,679 Speaker 1: It's, pretty steep it's it's and it's still. NOT enough, 1411 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: i mean they'd be getting a bargain two hundred they might. 1412 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Ask for they might also ask for the one seventy 1413 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: three pick. 1414 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 2: As well. 1415 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: So you get thirty sixty two and one seventy three 1416 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: to move up. To nineteen i'd. Do it. 1417 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 2: Hold on a second for. That guy we did a 1418 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 2: podcast last WEEK and i talked about a move up 1419 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,879 Speaker 2: TO and i want to say it was like nineteen 1420 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 2: and you, were like, No, way jose that's for. 1421 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Last year's last week was. Last year We're in we're 1422 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 1: in mock. Draft, city here. Let's go we're taking every 1423 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 1: five days, he picks, they said and keep the one seventy. Three. 1424 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 2: Pick, yeah now what we try. To do what we 1425 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,800 Speaker 2: try to do is use different draft. Value charts so 1426 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 2: you're saying it's how many points on, your chart it's. 1427 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 1: Two seventy eight on on the. 1428 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 2: Rich, hillpart okay so, On mine i've got it at 1429 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty. Five points and under, THAT logic 1430 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 2: I could i could get that pick by giving him, 1431 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 2: Sixty two no problem with. Pig thirty it would be more. 1432 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 2: Than enough well then about twenty points. 1433 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 1: Or, so well if you're going to, do that then 1434 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: you'd probably get back LIKE a a might. 1435 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Get a seventh rounder or you might get a, seventh 1436 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 2: sixth which would. BE Fine I will johnson would start. 1437 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 2: Day one that's, The, thing like you need a starter. 1438 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 2: At corner do you believe that much? 1439 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 11: Injury, history yeah it's A concern, i mean the reason 1440 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 11: he hasn't tested is because of some lingering. 1441 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 2: Hamstring injury that's a concern because let's NOT forget, i 1442 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 2: mean corner is a high impact position where you're operating at, 1443 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 2: top speed changing direction at top speed all. The time 1444 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: if you have a player that's got an, issue there, 1445 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 2: and look you got to dive into the, medical history 1446 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 2: and then your doctors have to make a projection, as, well, 1447 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 2: like hey we like, this player but he's pretty much 1448 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 2: only a one, Contract guy like we'll have him for 1449 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 2: four years and then the injuries are going to start. 1450 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 2: Piling up we cannot sign him to a. Second contract 1451 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,759 Speaker 2: you don't draft those guys in the, first round. 1452 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Right Right and i'm. 1453 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 2: Not saying That's What will. Johnson is i'm just using 1454 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,560 Speaker 2: it as. An example but that's what the that's The 1455 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 2: home you really need to be able to rely on 1456 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 2: your medical doctors, to, say hey he's gonna. Be fine, 1457 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 2: you know he had a soft tissue. Injury here it's 1458 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 2: not chronic and this turf, tow thing, you know shouldn't 1459 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 2: be something that comes. 1460 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Up again, they transposed they transposed, this injury and what 1461 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 1: they can tell about it to other guys who have had, 1462 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: that injury and there's there's as you, can imagine there's 1463 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: a ton, of them and they'll say and they may 1464 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 1: even get a thing where, like this Like the, bosa 1465 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 1: signing where he's had some soft. Tissue stuff your sports 1466 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: science people, may say you know why is because they're not, doing, this, 1467 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 1: this this. And this if he, does, this, this this 1468 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 1: and this, for us he'll never get injured with. Soft 1469 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: tissue that kind of. Stuff happens you get you get 1470 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 1: sports science people who are just as confident as coaches 1471 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,599 Speaker 1: are and their ability to affect players in. Their career 1472 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: so there's some of that going on. As well, But, 1473 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 1: yeah yank if you think he's not going to be 1474 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: able to hold, up physically, you know, no. Way. 1475 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah no the interesting thing for, me, was well first, 1476 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 2: of all it's hard not to have your eyes fall 1477 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 2: out of your head watching him with interceptions because three 1478 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 2: of his six interceptions the last two years went for 1479 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 2: touchdowns and. Hes right but here's the, crazy thing and 1480 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 2: maybe it's because teams don't throw at him all, that 1481 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 2: much but he only had seven pass breakups over the 1482 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 2: last two years in addition to his, Six INTERCEPTIONS so 1483 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 2: i don't KNOW whether i should be concerned about that 1484 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 2: or whether it's just, because again when you only watch 1485 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 2: three or, four games it's hard to kind of get, a, 1486 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 2: gauge like do teams just not throw? At him and 1487 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 2: that's why the numbers. 1488 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Are low you, gotta yeah you gotta ask yourself that, 1489 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 1: you know because. 1490 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 2: The belt teams have done. That homework sh don't have 1491 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 2: the time to look at. 1492 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 1: That much you'll get an idea of like is the 1493 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,640 Speaker 1: guy scared off the throw and they'll go so deep, to, 1494 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: say okay they always put him on, the a, you 1495 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: know the number, one guy and he they wouldn't throw. 1496 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 1: At him so that's or they say he always he 1497 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: didn't always go one the number, one guy and you 1498 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 1: know all. THAT stuff I think i could. 1499 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 2: Be convinced to make this move because there are something 1500 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 2: that believe. 1501 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: He is if you don't have to give up that, extra, 1502 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: pick yeah if you can, get, yeah yeah, That's. 1503 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 11: Right i'll go run the pick. 1504 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 1: In yeah, if yeah if, he's there make sure you 1505 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: have your. 1506 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 2: Track. 1507 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 3: Shoes yeah i'll. 1508 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Say, this though think. About it if, he, well no 1509 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 1: he's there's not, not there there Would, be yeah here's The, 1510 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 1: other yeah that's. 1511 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 2: Pretty good here's the other fly in the ointment. With 1512 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 2: this we were just talking about it at the top of. 1513 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 2: The Show, todd bowles the head coach Of, the bucks 1514 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,679 Speaker 2: in no, uncertain term said we. Need cornerback hell, oh 1515 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 2: NO so i don't Know If, tampa's yeah sorry to 1516 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,720 Speaker 2: Throw green bay blanket On Your. Green bay it was 1517 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 2: fun for a, Little. 1518 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: Thing green Bay and minnesota or And not Green min Minnesota. 1519 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Green bay, since. 1520 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 2: Wait green bay got rid of er Corner and tampa 1521 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 2: needs two corners, to start not one like. We, Do right, 1522 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 2: So YEAH i'm i don't know if they're moving out, 1523 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,919 Speaker 2: of There If will johnson's still on, the board. 1524 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 1: And, Since then i'm not going to take a. 1525 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,360 Speaker 2: Defensive guy they need defense all over the, Matt right, 1526 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,719 Speaker 2: so yeah it's it'll, be tough but dare. 1527 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 9: To. 1528 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,000 Speaker 2: Drink maddie thanks for the latest Edition To. Mock draft 1529 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 2: about your seven point oh going Up, on friday seven 1530 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 2: point going Up. 1531 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 11: On friday we're. Getting there we're doing ten total, all 1532 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:23,800 Speaker 11: right countdown For. 1533 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 2: Mock draft seven point zero coming Your way Friday on 1534 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,479 Speaker 2: buffalo Bills. Dot com we'll take a break here and 1535 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 2: continue the Discussion On One bill's live Presented By. Collideal 1536 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 2: Health It's Buffalo. Bill's radio all right back Here On One, 1537 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown. Steve tasker we're talking some draft 1538 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 2: and we're also trying to see if THERE'S an nfl 1539 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 2: comp for Basically what ovechkin's done with the goal scoring 1540 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 2: record and with so many. Different positions we don't know 1541 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 2: if there is too much Of an Appolis and. Oranges discussion, 1542 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 2: but nevertheless if you want to take a crack, at it. 1543 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 2: Feel free but let's head back to the phones and 1544 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 2: Go to Steve in. Syracuse next, What's, Up, STEVE. 1545 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 5: Well i got a little debate here after listening to 1546 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,640 Speaker 5: your idea of trading trade wound those were able to 1547 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 5: draft picks to move up to nineteen and get this. 1548 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 5: DEFENSIVE back. I can't i disagree with that one. HUNDRED percent, 1549 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 5: i mean you. Get it i'm not going to trade 1550 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 5: all those people and get up on a defensive back. 1551 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,280 Speaker 5: At nineteen. No way AND if i were to, DO 1552 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 5: it i get a safety instead Of From. South carolina 1553 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 5: he's worth at, nineteen pick but not. A cornerback BUT 1554 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,639 Speaker 5: anyone i wouldn't. DO either i, would say why don't 1555 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 5: they just bite The Bullet trey Erickson. From cincinnati you 1556 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 5: get in for that thirtieth pick and probably a pick 1557 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 5: in the later in, the rounds in the fifth round 1558 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 5: round and you got you got to proven defensive end 1559 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 5: and then two picks. And something round two you get two. 1560 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 5: Defensive tackles now you're in great shape to. Begin with did? 1561 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,599 Speaker 5: AFTER that i don't care how many corners you get 1562 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 5: safety receivers. Or anything? After, that well how do you 1563 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:11,120 Speaker 5: hold how do You. 1564 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 1: Fit hendrickson under the? 1565 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,719 Speaker 2: Salary cap that's the, only problem because he's gonna. 1566 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 1: Want gigantic he's gonna you're gonna have to pay him 1567 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars a year to. 1568 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:24,760 Speaker 5: Keep, him well there's. Other people, every year there's always 1569 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 5: somebody getting, a big extravagant. Uh, contract however, this guy 1570 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 5: he's a clean bill, of health he's a good, family 1571 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 5: man and he's going to give you a HUNDRED for, 1572 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,680 Speaker 5: I mean i don't debate. 1573 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 2: He's a, fantastic player. HE'S great i just don't think 1574 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 2: financially there's a way to make. 1575 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 1: It, work yeah we'd love to have him, With, You, 1576 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: steve yeah but you. CAN'T fit. I can't you don't have. 1577 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: The money now you don't have the money allowed to. 1578 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Spend them even if you have, the money you're not 1579 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 1: allowed to spend it because of. 1580 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,879 Speaker 2: The, cap yeah you use too. Many extensions. 1581 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 1: MY question i would agree, With. YOU steve i would 1582 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 1: do that if, we COULD but i don't think. 1583 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 2: IT'S possible i have a, Different. Question steve if you 1584 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 2: feel you feel more impressed with the top of the, 1585 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,880 Speaker 2: safety class then you do the top of the cornerback class. 1586 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 2: This Year and i'm, just, Wondering. 1587 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 5: Why well even if you even if you don't, do 1588 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 5: that even if you don't, do that just stay. At 1589 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 5: thirty there's gonna be plenty of defensive tackles. Following that 1590 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,840 Speaker 5: people that don't home. KNOW about i don't. KNOW about, 1591 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 5: i mean they're. Really recommended take that Kid From, Fuller, 1592 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 5: state josh what's, The? Name, Josh, Yeah, farmer farmer, the Land, 1593 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 5: the Land And. JACKSON jackson I love i love that. 1594 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 5: Guy too they'll both, Be, there. 1595 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, they yeah they might even be there when you're 1596 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 2: picking at, fifty six or one of them. 1597 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 5: Might be, That's right but why take. A chance if 1598 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,040 Speaker 5: they're there when you, want them you really, want them you. 1599 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:47,960 Speaker 5: Take them you get them before somebody else has the, 1600 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:53,600 Speaker 5: same idea, say well we get. Them, later no, the truthers, 1601 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 5: right now the proof, is now we've got to. Do 1602 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 5: it take advantage of when he's there at the time and. 1603 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 5: Get him nor mind waiting super dollar bills to pick. 1604 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 5: UP anys i get. 1605 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,240 Speaker 2: What, You're, Saying steve but in the, SAME breath i 1606 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,680 Speaker 2: could argue that argument against you, and say get him 1607 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,200 Speaker 2: when you can. Get, him well if you like that corner, 1608 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 2: so much go up and. Get him because you got 1609 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 2: ten picks. Right now are ten players making this roster 1610 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 2: out of? The draft, Probably not so why don't you 1611 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 2: use some of that capital go get the player you're in. 1612 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Love with and If It's will johnson at twenty or 1613 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 2: eighteen or whatever, it is and you got to give 1614 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 2: up a two to, do it still got a two. 1615 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 2: In reserve you got the best corner in. 1616 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: THE draft, i don't and you still got eight. Picks, left, yeah, 1617 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 1: WELL yeah i don't know if the guy's gonna, be 1618 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,640 Speaker 1: THERE and i don't know if you're gonna find a. 1619 01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 1: Willing PARTNER but i, Get. It Steve i'm i'm. WITH you, 1620 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 1: I MEAN i'm i DON'T think i think it's really 1621 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 1: too expensive to get high and higher in the. First 1622 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 1: round that's why this, value pick this value thing going 1623 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 1: up to Nineteen To, tampa Bay with buffalo trading Up To. 1624 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 1: Tampa bay it's all great because the trade they're talking 1625 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 1: about is not. That expensive it's, two picks but you'd 1626 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 1: only have instead of having three picks in the first sixty, 1627 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 1: sixty two you'd only have two. Two two it's, not, 1628 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,519 Speaker 1: Catastrophic no and. 1629 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 2: You could use some Of that day three draft capital 1630 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 2: to get back into, round three so you'd still have 1631 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 2: three picks in the first two days of. The draft 1632 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 2: perhaps there's a good way to do that and still 1633 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 2: come out with six or, seven players which realistically is 1634 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 2: all that's gonna make. This roster i'm telling you ten, 1635 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,600 Speaker 2: draft picks they're not making, this, Roster right and. 1636 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: That's right i'll, say THIS though i would love to keep, 1637 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,639 Speaker 1: as obviously the object is to get as many picks 1638 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 1: closer to the first round or in the first two or. 1639 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,559 Speaker 1: THREE rounds i get that as, you can because those 1640 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 1: guys are less likely not to make the team because 1641 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: of their measurables and the stuff you can actually look at, and, 1642 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 1: say yeah this guy's a pro caliber or this. Or 1643 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 1: that you get down, into date, you know round six, 1644 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:18,719 Speaker 1: and seven, IT'S like i, don't know, YOU know, i mean. 1645 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 2: Let's, uh yeah let's Go to Todd And. Grand island? What's? 1646 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,000 Speaker 4: Up? 1647 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 7: Todd hey are you guys? Doing things for taking? My? 1648 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 7: CALL suh? I would? YOU know I just i'm stressing 1649 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 7: out myself about. The drift but, YOU know i would 1650 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 7: just if we're, PICKING thirtieth i would just take the 1651 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 7: best of best. Player available, you know are you just are. 1652 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 2: You happy to sit and? Wait? 1653 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 7: THERE sure i would just stand pat and just take 1654 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 7: the best. Player available i'll. 1655 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 1: Just say, it, Again, though todd what are you gonna 1656 01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 1: do if the best player available is an? Offensive? Guard sure? 1657 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 7: Why not. 1658 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 2: There was a. 1659 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 1: Pregnant, pause there there was a. PREGNANT pause i. Get, 1660 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:17,960 Speaker 1: it okay, all right good for, you man stick by. 1661 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 1: Your guns that's. Let's go i'm, With, you todd, ALL 1662 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,360 Speaker 1: right i. BE you i. 1663 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 2: Love it so pregnant pause? 1664 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 6: Was great what if it's? A, guard, OKAY okay i. 1665 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Love it but that's what you're, looking, At right if 1666 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,000 Speaker 1: the best player out there is what are you gonna 1667 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,439 Speaker 1: do If, it's yeah if it's a, you know another. 1668 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,639 Speaker 1: Tight end, You know, i'm. 1669 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 2: Like, Ah dude i'm getting out right and. Getting out 1670 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:47,720 Speaker 2: what do? 1671 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,680 Speaker 1: You get what if that best player available is a? 1672 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 1: Long snapper, YOU know, i mean what are you? 1673 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 2: Gonna do colorado's school, of, Mine right. 1674 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,639 Speaker 1: So you know that's where. YOU'RE at i. Get it best, player, 1675 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,920 Speaker 1: Available awesome but we don't need the. Offensive line we 1676 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 1: got a ton of really really good ones and backups. And, 1677 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 1: backup yeah we got more than we, Need Actually so 1678 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,600 Speaker 1: i'm it's that best. Player available sounds great until it 1679 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 1: comes out and he's got to Compete Against. Josh allen then, 1680 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 1: you know then what are you gonna do if he's 1681 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback and he's five ten two. O five, i 1682 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: met that's the best player. 1683 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 2: Out there he's. The best we're just gonna sit here and. 1684 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,519 Speaker 2: Take him we gotta take a, Break here STEVE and 1685 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 2: i will close. It up we'll check in on the, 1686 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 2: tweet sheets see what some of your thoughts are there 1687 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 2: Here On One bill's live Presented By. Colida Health It's Buffalo. 1688 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 12: Bills radio, All right. 1689 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,680 Speaker 2: So is THERE an nfl player Count for ovechkin WITH 1690 01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:59,439 Speaker 2: the nhl goal? Scoring record try to knock this around on, 1691 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 2: the tweet which is brought to You By Corgan, moving 1692 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 2: systems official equipment. Moving company To The, Buffalo bills, connor 1693 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 2: says congrats to the. GRADE eight i would say there are. 1694 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 2: Two comps, on offense it would be. Touchdown passes on 1695 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 2: defense it would. Be sacks both require a player to 1696 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 2: have long term success IN. The, nfl again congrats to the. 1697 01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 2: Grade eight so that Would Be bruce Smith And. Tom 1698 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 2: brady six hundred and forty nine, touchdown passes two. Hundred sacks, 1699 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 2: NOT bad i. 1700 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:31,599 Speaker 1: Get It, Bruce's yeah bruce's sack totals are amazing because 1701 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,519 Speaker 1: they happened over such a long period of ten. Of, 1702 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 1: years yeah he also was playing IN a i don't get. Into, it, 1703 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: Yes yeah bruce is. 1704 01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 12: My. 1705 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 2: Guy Yeah PLoP, amania says passing Touchdowns by brady at six. 1706 01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 2: Forty nine, steve says in, my opinion the records OF 1707 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,680 Speaker 2: the nfl are hard to glorify since the number of 1708 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 2: games keeps changing and the records. Are evolving unlike the 1709 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 2: other three, pro sports whose number of games have been said, 1710 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 2: FOR years i will SAY That oj simpson's two thousand 1711 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 2: and three yards and fourteen games would never have. Been, 1712 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 2: broken yeah that's a. Good number it's a single, season 1713 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,639 Speaker 2: record though not a, longevity. 1714 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Record right that's that's that's the part. That's hard ovi has, 1715 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: taken him, you know a bunch of years to. Do, 1716 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,640 Speaker 1: It uh and. That's nineteen that's what you kind of 1717 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: got to put it up against somebody's career numbers in 1718 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,040 Speaker 1: some something, Or other. 1719 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 2: William says Our Own bruce smith with two. HUNDRED sacks 1720 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,160 Speaker 2: i don't think that anyone will be able to surpass that, 1721 01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 2: anytime soon as the quarterbacks are so good at getting 1722 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,120 Speaker 2: the ball out of. 1723 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 12: Their. 1724 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 2: Hands now closest active Players Are von miller at one 1725 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 2: twenty nine and a HALF. And tj watt at. One, 1726 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 2: eighteen yeah that's a. Good point as far as, untouchable 1727 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,640 Speaker 2: records it's probably one of the top ones IN. The, 1728 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 2: NFL yeah, i, WOULD yes. 1729 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,760 Speaker 1: I would say that. To you you look at the 1730 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 1: guys that have come. 1731 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 12: Up. 1732 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,599 Speaker 2: Short, wow yeah good, conversation though thanks for chiming in. 1733 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 2: On it that's It for STEVE and. I today catch. 1734 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 2: Us tomorrow we'll be talking more draft undoubtedly In a. 1735 01:29:51,120 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday edition we'll see it one