Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it is Friday. Welcome to another edition of
Speaker 1: the Stardom CIDAM Show for Week three. I am Marcus
Speaker 1: Grand joined by Michael F. Floria, who writes the Stardom
Speaker 1: Cidem column and check that out at NFL dot com
Speaker 1: slash stardom cit. We also have Lakwan Jones, who does
Speaker 1: not write the Stardom Cidem column, but he's got opinions,
Speaker 1: and so we bring him in here to talk about
Speaker 1: his opinions with these sorts of things. But we talk
Speaker 1: about the guys that you want to have in your
Speaker 1: lineup and maybe the guys you want to try to avoid.
Speaker 1: We're at all possible here in week three. Look, man,
Speaker 1: everybody's hurt, so your choices may vary. You may be
Speaker 1: forced to start some of these guys. I get it.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna try and give you advice as best
Speaker 1: as we can. So, Florida, let's start at the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Who is up and who is down?
Speaker 2: In week three, we are playing Joe Burrow because he
Speaker 2: is playing the Washington Commanders. That's the only reason you need,
Speaker 2: sorry Lakwan here, same reason for Brock Purdy because the
Speaker 2: Rams defense is just atrocious right now. Baker Mayfield is
Speaker 2: the QB one and gets a good matchup against the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Derek Carr is the QB two and has what it
Speaker 2: could be a shootout against the Eagles, and then I'm
Speaker 2: still giving Jared Goff another chance to what I think
Speaker 2: could be a high scoring game there Sis America's team
Speaker 2: is gonna come for me, but I think you sit
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott this week against the Ravens. I want no
Speaker 2: part of Justin Herbert, especially unless I'm in like a
Speaker 2: two quarterback league or something like that. Matthew Stafford, I
Speaker 2: just don't want to start without Cup and Pooka there,
Speaker 2: especially against the Niners. Trevor Lawrence has been pretty bad
Speaker 2: so far this year, and the Bills secondary has been
Speaker 2: a lot better than expected.
Speaker 1: So I was really gonna talk about rock party here,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't want to do that to
Speaker 1: a quand, so I'm instead I'm gonna I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you about your i'ma ask you about your old Rams
Speaker 1: quarterback Jared Goff, who has been pretty un good in
Speaker 1: fantasy the first two weeks of the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, he is the QB twenty six, one touchdown
Speaker 1: pass three inter seven. Is he turning back into a pumpkin?
Speaker 1: And can he reverse that against the Cardinals this week?
Speaker 2: He can reverse it?
Speaker 3: I think, you know, this Cardinals defense is good. I
Speaker 3: just think that Jared Goff is coming into more in
Speaker 3: his chemistry with Jamison Williams lighting up the perimeter and
Speaker 3: then a mon ros Saint Brown is getting back into
Speaker 3: the form that we know who he is. So he's
Speaker 3: coming off of momentum here with some production on that offense.
Speaker 3: And I definitely feel as though, you know, Jared Goff,
Speaker 3: he needs some time to rev up as a Rams fan,
Speaker 3: like I've kind of seen this go through, what his
Speaker 3: decision making and all that stuff is fairly early in
Speaker 3: the season. But it's more so Jared Goff going up
Speaker 3: with this should be a high scoring matchup. So I
Speaker 3: like him this week and Florio starts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think there's it's hard to
Speaker 1: get away from any of the main players in that
Speaker 1: Cardinals Lions game because there's gonna be a lot of points.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the ball a whole lot to miss out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes, though, Florida, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you to dig a hole deeper with a crowd of
Speaker 1: people who wear Tony Romo jerseys and jorts. Why exactly
Speaker 1: we not like Dak Prescott against the Ravens a.
Speaker 2: Number of different reasons. He has yet to score thirteen
Speaker 2: fantasy points in the game this season, which is not good.
Speaker 2: He's not running the ball. The Ravens defense has been
Speaker 2: really good against the pass as well. They generate pressure
Speaker 2: at a high rate. They've allowed just two passing touchdowns
Speaker 2: this year, the same number of interceptions they have. They
Speaker 2: held the Mahomes to just fifteen fantasy points in Week one,
Speaker 2: and in their last fourteen games that is nearly a
Speaker 2: full season of a sample size. One quarterback has reached
Speaker 2: eighteen against them. So my thinking is, okay, Well, if
Speaker 2: Prescott hasn't been scoring a lot of points right now
Speaker 2: and it's a tough matchup, that lowers the floor, and
Speaker 2: if only one quarterback has got to eighteen against this team,
Speaker 2: if we're saying the ceiling is around eighteen, I just
Speaker 2: don't think the risk is worth the reward there.
Speaker 1: I just do wonder how much of this, though, is
Speaker 1: like there's only one real target in the offense yea
Speaker 1: to just Seed Lamb and they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: where else to go with the football. That can't really
Speaker 1: be helpful for a guy like dak over a run.
Speaker 1: Who do you like? Who do you not like? In
Speaker 1: Week three?
Speaker 2: I like Jordan Mason because again we're playing forty nine
Speaker 2: ers against rams. Lawan will like this one a lot more.
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson Junior, who has beginning all of the volume,
Speaker 2: even though I will continue to say Austin Eckler has
Speaker 2: played well enough where he deserves more. If it's going
Speaker 2: to Robinson, that's who it's going to. The Bengals have
Speaker 2: struggled against the run. Zach Charboney played ninety six percent
Speaker 2: of the snaps last week. I don't care who they
Speaker 2: are playing. If he's getting that much volume, he is
Speaker 2: in play. And then Xamir White, this is your last chance, buddy.
Speaker 2: You get the Panthers. You gotta make the most of it.
Speaker 2: My six Najie Harris against the Chargers because he's just
Speaker 2: such a floor play and the Chargers have been really
Speaker 2: good against the run. DeAndre Swift although on Thursday, Marcus,
Speaker 2: you've been trying to You've kind of been talking me
Speaker 2: into I have a league where my running backs are
Speaker 2: atrocious and I am playing Deondre Slift, Javonte Williams against
Speaker 2: the Bucks, Devin Singletary against the Browns. This just I'm
Speaker 2: fearful that this will be one of those games where
Speaker 2: the Giants offense just gets completely ran through by an
Speaker 2: opposing a strong opposing defense. So the only one and
Speaker 2: willing to take the shot on his Milik Neighbors and
Speaker 2: then Jerome Ford. Because we saw last week when the
Speaker 2: Browns have a lead, it was Deonta Foreman they fed.
Speaker 2: This feels like a game where the Browns could have
Speaker 2: a lead. Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a few names out here that I
Speaker 1: think you're interesting. But Laqwan, I know you have been
Speaker 1: a huge Brian Robinson proponent all year long. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you take a pre victory lap. I want
Speaker 1: you leant you to get fired up about Brian. Please
Speaker 1: tell us why Brian Robinson is that dude?
Speaker 3: Have we not seen this dude run? There's times where
Speaker 3: he gets stuffed into pile and we think he's done
Speaker 3: and then he just bounces out and he's running for
Speaker 3: like thirty yards. Like Brian Robinson Junior is an electric talent,
Speaker 3: a dynamic running back he needs an angry run scepter.
Speaker 3: By the way, like he runs so strong. He's a
Speaker 3: strong nose runner. So if he's gonna be getting this
Speaker 3: type of volume, this type of usage and getting looks
Speaker 3: in the passing game, man, Brian Robinson Junior is in
Speaker 3: stored for a huge fantasy season this year.
Speaker 1: Look, I admit I was on the It's sometime, I
Speaker 1: was on the Austin Eckler train. I was on the
Speaker 1: train of whoever had the better ADP at the time,
Speaker 1: which for a while turned out to be Eckler. He's
Speaker 1: been getting a little bit of run, but this really
Speaker 1: is the Brian Robinson show for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm not taking any lapse on Brian Robinson very early,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 1: Though you can.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's getting all.
Speaker 1: The work through two weeks. Man, through two weeks, you
Speaker 1: were looking very very right. So we'll give you that
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm gonna look, I get it. I get
Speaker 1: while you're saying DeAndre Swift as they sit, because the
Speaker 1: Bears offense has looked very lost. The offensive line has
Speaker 1: been an issue for the first couple of weeks of
Speaker 1: the season. But what if it wasn't or better yet,
Speaker 1: what if they were playing a run defense that was
Speaker 1: just so bad that it didn't make a difference. The
Speaker 1: Colts through two weeks have allowed four hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: four rushing yards. No other team has allowed more than
Speaker 1: three ninety nine. I mean, okay, that's seventy five yards difference,
Speaker 1: but whatever, Nobody else is over four hundred. The Colts
Speaker 1: giving up two hundred and thirty seven yards per game
Speaker 1: on the ground. Fortunately, somehow they've only given up one touchdown,
Speaker 1: which is sort of amazing when you give up that
Speaker 1: many rushing yards. And I just I think right now
Speaker 1: the Bears have to retool some things. They've got to
Speaker 1: figure out ways to help their young quarterback out, and
Speaker 1: maybe some of that is to establish the run. And
Speaker 1: so look, maybe it's not all DeAndre Swift. Maybe we
Speaker 1: see some more Rashawn Johnson, who has really struggled to
Speaker 1: get on the field. They've been going with Travis Homer.
Speaker 1: I don't really understand that, especially because Homer has struggled
Speaker 1: in pass protection. But I just think they they've got
Speaker 1: to run the football. And I do like DeAndre Swift
Speaker 1: as a sleeper this week because he's the guy who's
Speaker 1: in the lead in the running back position there in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Over to wide receivers, you start some sits for this week.
Speaker 2: I'm starting Chris Godwin because if it ain't broke, don't
Speaker 2: fix it. He's the wide receiver one on the year
Speaker 2: right now. I am starting Jamison Williams and I will
Speaker 2: victory lap this because a lot of people wrote Jamison
Speaker 2: Williams off. I was not one of them. Many, No,
Speaker 2: not just I mean the world wrote him off pretty.
Speaker 3: Much Fantasy streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the Cardinals, I mean we've seen that that
Speaker 2: is a defense that could be picked on a bit.
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk because rams I think this is the week
Speaker 2: that Ayuk looks like Ayuk again, DK Metcalf and JSN.
Speaker 2: They did something last week that DK and Lockett have
Speaker 2: never done. First Seattle Seahawks teammates ever to have ten
Speaker 2: catches each and over one hundred yards each. They're just
Speaker 2: that kind of volume cannot be ignored. And George Pickens,
Speaker 2: this is the week. Last week should have been the
Speaker 2: week he had thirteen Fantasy points called back due to penalties.
Speaker 2: That's not happening again. And then my sits These first
Speaker 2: two are if you can get away like Amari Cooper
Speaker 2: against the Giants. I have some teams that are banged
Speaker 2: up where I just simply cannot get away from him.
Speaker 2: If you're in that position, I get it. My fear, though,
Speaker 2: is that this is a game where the Browns just
Speaker 2: run all over the Giants. Michael Pittman Junior against the Bears,
Speaker 2: because the connection right now between him and Anthony Richardson
Speaker 2: looks like it is broken. Terry McLaurin. We spoke a
Speaker 2: lot about him on Wednesday show that he is tethered
Speaker 2: to the left side, that they are not getting creative
Speaker 2: with him. They're not using him downfield at all. And
Speaker 2: because of that, until I see him use different, I
Speaker 2: think it is okay to sit him. Christian Kirk has
Speaker 2: twenty nine yards through two games. It is unused even
Speaker 2: in what should be a advantage for them with Toron
Speaker 2: Johnson out. I just don't see how you could trust
Speaker 2: Kirk and the Jack's passing attack right now and then
Speaker 2: Jayden Reid. I will change my tune if it's Jordan Love,
Speaker 2: but I still think it's gonna be Milik Willis.
Speaker 1: You makes me so sad. I'm sorry, it is so sad.
Speaker 3: Literally, like half my team, I'm looking.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, man, these are all the guys that
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I love this guy in like
Speaker 1: the fifth round, sixth and wear.
Speaker 3: Are values though, like I'm okay with the price we
Speaker 3: paid for these.
Speaker 2: Guys usually start sit wad. Receivers are hard for me
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I could convince myself that most receivers
Speaker 2: could play well. But this past week I had to
Speaker 2: cut the names down because there's so many guys on.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad, It is bad, bad out there.
Speaker 1: Jameson Williams is no. I mean, like Luquan obviously we've
Speaker 1: seen two weeks of him, Like he's not going This
Speaker 1: is the guy that the Lions thought they were drafting.
Speaker 1: It took a couple years for it to happen, but like,
Speaker 1: he's not going away at this point.
Speaker 3: No, And you look at his target share, it's in
Speaker 3: the elites. He's up there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: He has a higher target share than San Laporta and
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs, which is a little surprising based on how
Speaker 3: those two last year were Golfs go to. But it
Speaker 3: looks like it's the Jameson Williams and the Monrod Saint
Speaker 3: Brown show, not in that order, but you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But it's more so of like it's working,
Speaker 3: it's happening. He's he's lighting it up. He's being in
Speaker 3: that deep threat and he's showing that he could be
Speaker 3: a all around wide receiver and being able to take
Speaker 3: the short passes and intermediate passes and possibly turn up
Speaker 3: field and make the bigger plays. So it's like it's real,
Speaker 3: it's here, it's not going anywhere, and you know, shout
Speaker 3: out to Jameson Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just the jokes on you if you
Speaker 1: drafted Sam Report because apparently he's the guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: miss out and this guy. Yeah, I didn't draft a
Speaker 1: lot of just because I didn't like the price. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give Mark Andrews.
Speaker 3: So there nice, it's week three and we got Johnny
Speaker 3: Smith in starting lineups.
Speaker 1: That's where we are right now. Michael Pittman flora for me.
Speaker 1: This this isn't a Michael Pittman thing. This isn't Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: It's that like passing wise, he's just not accurate. Most
Speaker 1: everything is really short near the line of scrimmage or
Speaker 1: it's like bombs away to Alec Pierce. The intermediate part
Speaker 1: of the field is lava and that's where Michael Pittman
Speaker 1: runs a lot of his routes. Like, I it's not
Speaker 1: your fault, Michael Pittman, but it's also making it hard
Speaker 1: for me to start.
Speaker 2: You Yeah, everything Mark is just said, like that is
Speaker 2: exactly the concern with Michael Pittman Junior right now, is
Speaker 2: like it's all running short to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 2: or bombs away, and when they are airing it out,
Speaker 2: it's not going to Pittman. There's Pierce has four targets downfield,
Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell has four targets downfield, Pittman has won, And like,
Speaker 2: if that's gonna be the usage this show. I said
Speaker 2: it on Tuesday Show. It was like a hot take
Speaker 2: then and I know it still is now. But the
Speaker 2: more I think about it, the more I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce might lead this team in receiving yards. I
Speaker 2: know it sounds crazy in week three, but if this
Speaker 2: is how that Colts offense is going to look then,
Speaker 2: And I know we're talking a lot about two high
Speaker 2: safeties in the NFL. If there's one team you don't
Speaker 2: want to do that against It might be the Colts
Speaker 2: because of how good they can run the ball.
Speaker 1: They can run the ball so well with Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: and Anthony Richardson, so maybe that sort of breaks that down.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I know we had concerns about
Speaker 1: Richardson as a passer, and we're starting to see them
Speaker 1: sort of come to life in the form of Michael
Speaker 1: Pittman being underwhelming for the first couple of weeks of
Speaker 1: the season. Crossing my fingers that we can break out
Speaker 1: of this, but it is not encouraging so far. Now
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Terry mclaurinks that gives me
Speaker 1: the super sads, like.
Speaker 3: I think we covered that in the previous shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? Like the thirty eight percent of
Speaker 1: the targets are at or behind the line of stormage like.
Speaker 3: Wear yards perb reception, like we're in.
Speaker 2: We're bad.
Speaker 3: It's bad people.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh no, man, Cliff Kingsbury might need to
Speaker 1: go back to the White Lotus in the Thailand or
Speaker 1: wherever he was, get his mind right, get this offense
Speaker 1: going again, because it's it's on good so far away
Speaker 1: from our podcast exactly, all right, So we've got tight ends.
Speaker 1: Who are your starts and sists for this week?
Speaker 2: Brock Bowers, it's week three. I don't care. He is
Speaker 2: a must art tight end and there's maybe a handful
Speaker 2: of tight ends I'd rather have over him the rest
Speaker 2: of the way. Kyle Pitts, this is the week. If
Speaker 2: it's not this week, I'm going to be very scared
Speaker 2: because the Chiefs have just been eaten alive by tight ends.
Speaker 2: Look at what Isaiah Likely did. Mike Seki put up
Speaker 2: ninety yards against them. I mean, come on, Atlanta, Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid, I think this is the week for him.
Speaker 2: I think last week they wanted to get him involved
Speaker 2: and they just didn't have to throw a bunch Isaiah Likely,
Speaker 2: because my thinking is a bad Week two does not
Speaker 2: completely erase what we saw in Week one, and I
Speaker 2: think we're still trying to figure out which game was
Speaker 2: a Week one was matchup driven with his usage or
Speaker 2: week two. So I'm willing to give him another shot
Speaker 2: considering the tight end position and then the sis. I
Speaker 2: know these are not big names, but tight end is
Speaker 2: a race right now. So dal Schultz, Kobe Parkinson, John
Speaker 2: new Smith, Pat Frymu Taysom Hill. If I wanted to
Speaker 2: take a shot in any of them, it would be
Speaker 2: John new Smith. But like I feel like you could
Speaker 2: find better options.
Speaker 1: So Kyle Pits right, we are all on Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: I know that, Lakwan. There are things that are concerning.
Speaker 1: Fewer targets than Ray, Ray McCloud and Darnell Mooney Florida
Speaker 1: pointed out earlier this week, just one target of more
Speaker 1: than ten yards downfield, but quin he leads the team
Speaker 1: in zone targets. Even if one of them was like
Speaker 1: sailed like fifty feet over his head like.
Speaker 2: His touchdown he was doing jumping jacks, he was still open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and the Chiefs matchup like there are
Speaker 1: redeeming signs, right like at some point it's gotta happen.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, But I think with this layup, like it
Speaker 3: looks like a layup, but I'm not too sure the
Speaker 3: situations that are same, And it comes down to the
Speaker 3: quarterback like Kyle Pitts should be utilized at a high rate.
Speaker 3: He should be targeted on every single route that he's
Speaker 3: on going up against his Chiefs defense. They're allowing the
Speaker 3: most yards, most Fantasy Points, Florio covered that aspect. This
Speaker 3: is the weakness, but are they going to be able
Speaker 3: to get it done when you have somebody on that
Speaker 3: defensive line in the trenches named Chris Jones, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be getting after Kirk Cousins. That's not as mobile. He's
Speaker 3: gonna stay in that pocket. He's not gonna really go
Speaker 3: out of that pocket to try to get away from
Speaker 3: the pass rush show. I think that's my biggest concern
Speaker 3: with this game. Like the Chiefs defense are still deep
Speaker 3: in the trenches. So and people have been saying I've
Speaker 3: been like, I looked like Chris Jones, and I'm starting
Speaker 3: to kind of see it, Like it's kind of crazy
Speaker 3: that people are hitting me in the comments about that.
Speaker 3: But he's a really really good player, and I've been
Speaker 3: watching a lot of him these last year.
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say he's a really really
Speaker 2: good looking man too.
Speaker 3: That too, I can add a little sprinkle on top
Speaker 3: of that. But I'm really starting to see it now,
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 2: Don't see it.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's the go see, it's the go see. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Jones and put it side by side by me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm looking at your sit tight ends. I've
Speaker 1: got John new Smith and Pat Fryer Muth in my
Speaker 1: Sleepers column this week, which you can find at NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash Sleepers. But I will also admit that
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not pounding the table for either
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Really, wait a minute, actually I
Speaker 1: might have pounded the table for John new Smith. No
Speaker 1: I did not. I pounded the table for Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: on Finasy. I was like, let me make sure I didn't.
Speaker 1: I think you can like squint and tell yourself a
Speaker 1: story where either one of those guys has a game.
Speaker 1: But if it turns out that neither one of them
Speaker 1: has a good game this week, I won't be surprised
Speaker 1: about that. Because tight end, man.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. There's like eight tight ends that you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you have them, you reluctantly have to play them
Speaker 2: outside unless you have like one of the three good ones,
Speaker 2: and then after that it dries out so fast. So
Speaker 2: sleeper kind of all the same neighborhood.
Speaker 3: In the tight end department in the fantasy streets, Like
Speaker 3: it's hard out here.
Speaker 2: So I guess I just I just pulled up the
Speaker 2: rankings on NFL dot com. Mikeah Sicki and Zach Ertz
Speaker 2: are top thirteen tight ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean like if you get if you
Speaker 1: get nine points out of a tight end, you gotta
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about that. Yes, oh yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: we are right now. That's where we are.
Speaker 2: Remember also summer though, Like this is the deepest tight end.
Speaker 1: You don't have to spend up to get a tight end.
Speaker 1: You're fine. Even if you spent up to get a
Speaker 1: tight end, you're probably disappointed you.
Speaker 2: Don't have brock Bowers. You're probably disappointed, you.
Speaker 1: Know, brock Bowers, Trey McBride. That's that's kind of it.
Speaker 2: One week of Isaiah likely because.
Speaker 1: You know, otherwise you're riding it out with Mike Gasicki
Speaker 1: and hoping that that he gets for you. Blurg. Why
Speaker 1: are you any of the shows on depressing though? You
Speaker 1: gotta be better about this.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe I'll write about Sam Laporter
Speaker 2: or Travis Kelsey as it sits, And then I was like,
Speaker 2: no one has an option that you could play over them.
Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody's nobody's buying that, nobody. They're just not sadness,
Speaker 1: man pain. Let's just have a moment of silence for
Speaker 1: tight ends. No serious right. That'll do it though, for
Speaker 1: this edition to startup center show, we appreciate you hanging
Speaker 1: out with us. I'll be sure to go check out
Speaker 1: the full column at NFL dot com slash start sit.
Speaker 1: That'll do it for us this week. We're back with
Speaker 1: you on Monday for another edition of the NFL Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Show. In the meantime, for the Kwan Jones, for
Speaker 1: Michael F. Florio, I am Marcus Grant, enjoy the weekend,
Speaker 1: Enjoy Week three. May it be a prosperous and healthy
Speaker 1: one for you in fantasy football, and we will talk
Speaker 1: to you all next week. Bob help help Bo