1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 2: We want to talk about natural resources, maybe because the 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: natural resources from the great state of Montana are being 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: used to fill a soul called void in the vodka industry. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: May Leave Vodka. It promises to lift your spirits with 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: locally sourced, high quality grains and natural spring water. And 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: if that's not enough to sell one of its sustainable 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: bottles of star Power behind, it might do that just 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: as well. I'm happy to say that the co founders 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: of Maylee Vodka join us right now here on the 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: Big Program, Blaine Halverson and the actor Jason Momoa. Thanks 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: for both of you, gentlemen, for joining us here today here, 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: and of course, Jason, I'm going to start with the 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: very obvious question here. Just tell me what sets this 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: vodka apart from all the others. 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Why does this set apart from all the other vodkas? Yeah, 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: the other vodkas don't taste good. I think we set 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: out to make this vodka just because we wanted to 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: treat it like a spirit sets out of an ingredient. 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 3: So it's been as kind of our gold sickens quite 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: a while time to do that. But we found out 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: that it was actually because of it's the water we use, 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: and you know, vodka sixty percent water, we use a 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: live water for Montana. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Well, give us a sense here to blame when we 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: talk about how you sort of market this and more importantly, 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: I guess getting on shelves and what we know is 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: a very crowded space. I mean, there are a lot 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: of liquor brands, a lot of vodka brands specifically out 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: there here. How do you get this in front of 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: people in a way where they look to your to 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: mainly vodka rather than all the others. 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean listen with Jay and I started this thing, 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: like I said, but you know, we were not vodka guys. 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: We were more in the whiskey and tequila things we 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: saw avoid and vodka just to us, vodka was really 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: looked upon as an ingredient. So we've just sort of 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: charged in creating something that was that was different and 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: giving vodka an actual flavor profile and something smooth, and 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: treating it more, as Jason said, as an actual spirit 41 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: rather than a than an ingredient. 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: So you know, it's been a big piece. 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: You know, obviously the vodka market is really kind of 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: controlled in general, by kind of the big the Big 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: four that have been around quite some time, and it 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: just felt like it was a it was a you know, 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: a piece of the liquor industry that that was ready 48 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: for a change and needed something different. 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, both of you have a history together, right, You 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: started on this journey to create something eight years ago, 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and it sounds like you kind of stumbled upon vodka 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: as your collaborative you know product here. But part of 53 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: the origin story of Meinlee Vodka is that neither of 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: you actually like vodka. I'm guessing that has changed now. 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: But I love we love, we love vodka now, right, 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: So I mean, I mean. 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: That's the beautiful thing like this, this bottle, like what 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 3: we set out to do. 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: Just the design quality of it. 60 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: It ticks off everything that we love, so the sustainability 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: aspect of it. We wanted something that tastes good, it's 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: got a great story behind it, and to be able 63 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: to drink this and we take it to everybody. 64 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: We asked them to. 65 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: Drink it neat and drink it, you know, warm room temperature, 66 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: and and it tastes beautiful. And we most of the 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: we went up for all the competitions and we poured out. 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: It's a blind taste test that we won everything. So 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: it's been the most one of the most decorated spirits 70 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: in the world. We've got seven platinum or seven goals, 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: three platinums, and two perfect perfect scores. So we've been 72 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: out for a year and a half and it's just 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: been wonderful actually to take it to people and show 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: it to them, and at the price point where it's 75 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: still you know, anywhere from twenty dollars to twenty four 76 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: dollars for a bottle, and it's beautiful and it tastes good. 77 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: It's like we wanted to make that some of the 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: affordable luxury. 79 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: You know. 80 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Right, we should point out that no two bottles are 81 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: the same, because each bottle is different. The manufacturing the 82 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: last bottle is really a point of pride for you, Blaine. 83 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious when you as you bring your Voka around 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and you you know, have different people taste it. I'm 85 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: wondering if you've gotten any kind of feedback from the 86 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: big players in the industry, you know, the Constellation Reds, 87 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the Diadios, whether anyone's talk to you about the flavor 88 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: profile that you have come up with for melee vodka. 89 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, most people in America don't think actually 90 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: even know what vodka tastes like. I mean, they're used 91 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: to drinking it in a drink, and that that's that 92 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: was sort of our point. I mean, the fact that 93 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: we go around and and have people try it at 94 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: room temperature in its natural form. I mean you can 95 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: kind of tell a lot just by people's first sort 96 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: of impression of when you're asking them to drink vodka warm. 97 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: You know, most of them sort of turn their nose 98 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: because they're you know, the ones that have they sort 99 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: of know that in general, vodkan tastes like rubbing alcohol. 100 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: It's it's hot, it's got that it's got that burn. 101 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: And it's why, you know, it became something covered up 102 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: in drinks. We wanted to we wanted to create a 103 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: beautiful spirit that he didn't have to cover up and 104 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: then would give the bartenders and mixologists and the people 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: in the industry actually be something to actually build off of. 106 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, we single the still for that reason. 107 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: We wanted to leave all the beautiful you know, the 108 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: beautiful grains that we use and most of all, you know, 109 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: what we call the unicorn this this unbelievable water. 110 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that, Blaine, because that was the 111 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: part I was interested in. I mean, most with these vodkas, 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: they are distilled several times, primarily to make it a 113 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: neutral spirit, which, as you've pointed out, because a lot 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: of people use it as to mix in with something else. 115 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: By only distilling this once, so you're leaving behind those grains, 116 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: or at least a flavor from those grains. Why do 117 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: you think other vodka companies, I guess effectively are throwing 118 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: that out for lack of a better word, Well. 119 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: I think it's been Listen, it's I think it's been 120 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: mainly a marketing tool because I don't think people necessarily understand. 121 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: You know, in general, the more you're distill it, the 122 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: only thing surviving distillation is the alcohol. And to me 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: it's why you know, we never liked it, because drinking 124 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: alcohol and its natural form. 125 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: Isn't very good. 126 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: And listen, anybody who this whole myth of vodka of 127 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: this you know no, you know, no no smell, no taste. 128 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: If that was the case, I mean everyone has failed. 129 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: I mean there's tried vadka naturally, like there's nothing about 130 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: it that doesn't have you know, heat in itself tastes 131 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: like something. So we wanted to create something that was actually, 132 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: like I said, more smooth. We age our bok as well, 133 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: you know, given at that time similar to like a whiskey, 134 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: also helped smooth it out. But that single desolation because 135 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: we're leaving and again leaving this beautiful water, yeah in 136 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: it as well. 137 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: It's it's going to be smoother. 138 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 3: Because you're not you're not cooking down, you're not getting 139 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: rid of everything but the alcohol. 140 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: Right right, Jason, let me ask you the final question here. 141 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: What has surprised you most about the spirit industry. I 142 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: know that you've been in the entertainment industry for a 143 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: long time, you have other business interests, but as you 144 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, move further into into the spirit industry, what 145 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: surprises see the most? 146 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: Well, and nothing at this point really surprised me as 147 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: much as how I mean, it was extremely challenging from 148 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: the get go. So you know, it took us eight 149 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: a little over eight years, nine years to actually build 150 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: this to where it's at. This wasn't an overnight thing, 151 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: and no one came to us and I'm like, hey, 152 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: would you be a part of this and that it's 153 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: just been Blaine and I. So there's no there's no partners, 154 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: there's no the odd you know, there's nothing. 155 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: It was just us. 156 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: So that whole time to give us, you know, time 157 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: to trial and air test this out. We really, you know, 158 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: Blam really was the the genius behind. And obviously I 159 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: know a few things about water, but it's like it 160 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: was all about these pure water sources. And so we 161 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: traveled in that time with expedition studios. We brought back 162 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: water from Antarctica, we brought back Everest, we brought back 163 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: the Shackleton around from the Greenland, and like bringing back 164 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: all these like the Northwest Passage, bringing back waters, mixing 165 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: with our mash, finding out that people are like, no, 166 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: you're just gonna distill it. 167 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: It's gonna go away. But it didn't. 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: And each flavor profile was different. So when we use 169 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: ro water, which most spirits are made out of, it 170 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: doesn't taste good. 171 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: If you have a. 172 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: Really beautiful, one of a kind water, which we do, 173 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 3: it's our Unicorn in Montana, and like that water source 174 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: is high, it's low in sodium, so it doesn't cover 175 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 3: up the grains. And so I think the hardest part 176 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: was the beginning, because it took a long time to 177 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: get into it and like really perfect us a place 178 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: where we didn't know much about. But now it's like 179 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: we know how to sell. I mean, we know how 180 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: to sell. We know how to be intimate and be 181 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: able to go to places and meet with people, and 182 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: so now it's actually quite fun. I mean I'm going 183 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: to go on stage and play music with my band 184 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: right now, to share, you know, drinks with thousands of 185 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: people and really just experience what it's like and having 186 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: a good time. So I think the marketing aspect of 187 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: that is already passed the hard part in the sense 188 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: of we just now it's just getting it to people 189 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: going like, hey, here's the thing. We love Scott's, we 190 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: love mescal whiskey, all that stuff. You can have tons 191 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: of them, tons of different bourbons. You need one vodka, 192 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: you really need one, and so take one of these 193 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: bottles home, tested it with your friends, blind taste tests them, 194 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 3: and just try it out. 195 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: It's twenty bucks. You'll have a. 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Ball, all right. Jason Momo and Blaine Halverson spoken like 197 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: true entrepreneurs. There the journey of you know, stumbles and 198 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: starts before I kind of find your way co founders 199 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: of Mainly Vodka. Thank you both so much 200 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, begg you