1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on Home of the Black 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. You're the Drive on Steelers Nation 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Radio and Matt um Kevina Patara or pats Rare, I 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: should say on NFL dot Com did a little analysis 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: piece here on the season predicting each a FC team's 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: non QB Most Valuable Player HM interesting, um So, I 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: thought we'd go to roll through that and see who 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: he thinks could be that guy, because obviously, when you're 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: looking at the m v P award, uh you know 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: the leaders in the club house right now, Josh Allen 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: is plus seven hundred, Tom Brady plus eight hundred, Patrick 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes plus eight hunder, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers. Those are 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: the guys that everybody knows are going to be in 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: the in the running for league MVP. But when you 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: dig a little deeper with some of these teams, there's 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: some other guys there. M there should be an Offensive 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Player of the Year that you're that the quarterbacks can't 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: win like. The way they do their awards is two 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: quarterback heavy. I agree. In the year, uh So, the 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are first here. Uh there, non QB M 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: v P. Potential guy is Mark Andrews. That's an easy one. 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: That's an easy one. I was thinking maybe Humphrey. If 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: you asked Harbaugh, he's gonna say Ronnie Stanley. You know, 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: if he could vote, who would get it? He might 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: say Justine if any kicker could be in it, right, 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, having that guy can get your points as 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: soon as you cross midfield is is pretty special. Yeah. 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: For the Bills at Stefon Dicks, I think pretty easily. 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Those defensive backs are impressive, but he may lead the 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: league in perceptions this year, you know. Uh. For the Bengals, 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: it's Shamar Chase clearly. I mean, Higgins isn't far behind him, 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: but you picked Chase over Higgins. Yeah. Right. For the 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: Browns moving a different direction here, it's Nick Chubb. Oh, 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: I would say it smiles Garrett. Yeah, I get that. 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: But I think with what their offense is going to 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: be this year, even I think it's Jimmy here, I 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: mean who, no matter who's the quarter, that offense is 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna run through Chubb. Yeah, I mean I think if 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: he can stay healthy this year, which is a big 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: because he hadn't done it yet. He's gotten nicked up 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: every year. I mean, if he gets three fifty carries, 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: which he could in that offense, you know, based on 44 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: their quarterback who is going to be Especially if Hunt 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: gets still, he could he make a run of two 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: thousand yards. If Hunt's not in the equation, he could. 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: He has that kind of talent. Yeah, I mean he's 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: a gonna runner. As Henry just does that. It gets 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. But by this logic, I can't put 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: nausea over what true true. For the Broncos, it's Justin Simmons, 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: great player, but he's a stafety Yeah. I mean, like 52 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Judy and Sutton kind of cancel each other out, so 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: do the running backs. Yeah. I do think it'll be 54 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: more of a Javante Williams backfield this year. Certains in 55 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the conversation too is not Yeah, I agree, I agree. 56 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Not easy team. Well, you're talking about not easy teams. 57 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: The next one up is the Houston Texans and Brandon 58 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Cooks they list he lists Laramy Tunsil is the guy. Okay, 59 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean he might be their best football player. Yeah, 60 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: but I mean to win your team MVP award would 61 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: be pretty miraculous. I probably would go with Cooks here. 62 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the rookie running back maybe maybe what if 63 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: it's like Stingley Stingley. Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: they I think they moved in the right direction with 65 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: their draft. They finally had no k offseason and some 66 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: building blocks in place, you know. For the Colts, Jonathan Taylor, Yeah, 67 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: he's kind of definition kind of. I mean, I thought 68 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard last year should have been should have been 69 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: in a conversation with for a defensive Player of the Year. 70 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: And he's a huge leader on that team too. I mean, 71 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Taylor's will be the first pick in fantasy drafts and 72 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a huge year, I'm sure, Yeah, but 73 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Leonard might be as important. Yeah, and I think, I mean, 74 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a they got multiple you know, like 75 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: many teams they led, They led the league and takeaways 76 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: last year, and a guy like Leonard is a key 77 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: to that. I mean, he has those long arms and 78 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: disrupts the rowing lanes and you know things that stats 79 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that don't show up on the back of his football 80 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: card or team stats. Yeah. For the Jaguars, Josh Allen, Yeah, 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: I guess you could go the first overall pick. They 82 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: almost need him to be that though, right if they 83 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: had above average I mean I'm not talking elite pair 84 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: of book and pass rushers. That's a heck of a 85 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: start with the up quarterback. Yeah, um, you know Trayvon. 86 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: I think the idea is that Trayvon Walker can learn 87 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: off of him him and you know they can, they 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: can play off of each other. Um, could it be 89 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Travis A t N. He's gonna be a lot of 90 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: my fantasy teams when we start talking to fantasy. I 91 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: think it ends up for a big, big season. Yeah, 92 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I think he could be a guy. I think a 93 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: lot of people kind of just forgetting about him because well, 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: play last year and he was Lawrence's teammate too, and 95 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, I mean there's some that makes a lot 96 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: of sense to me. Yeah, for Kansas City, they list 97 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Chris Jones. Yeah, well, you gotta play. You gotta play 98 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: more than the snaps. And when I say play more 99 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: than of snaps, actually try on more than um I 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: mean bout Tyreek Kelsey kind of has to be Yeah, 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a that's a good point. I mean, 102 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: he he has to be great this year, great this year. 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: They can't afford for him to just he was okay. 104 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean by his standards last year was a down 105 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: year a little. I mean his standards over the last 106 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: five years with the best in tight end history. Right. 107 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I keep referencing fantasy, but he's not my number one 108 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: tight end and people think I'm crazy for him not 109 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: being But I think I thought he benefited from Hill's 110 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: presence a little more than the other way around. Yeah, 111 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean he had the fear, 112 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: that over the top factor. Yeah, I don't. I don't 113 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: know if they have that now right, Right, he's got 114 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot of attention. I mean, now does Scantling can 115 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: do that? But can he catch it consider instantly? Right? 116 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Is Kelsey thirty four? I mean he's in that neighborhood, 117 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: isn't he getting up in age? Yeah? Yeah. For the 118 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Raiders it's Davante Adams. I don't know about that. I 119 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: don't know about Max Crosby. Adams will not be on 120 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: my fantasy teams. He will not because he's going like 121 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: late first found and might catch more that. So I 122 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: was just gonna say it, would it surprise you for 123 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Remfro catches more passes in him this year. No, in 124 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: a Patriots McDaniels, Welker, Edelman, Amundola Roll and the other thing. 125 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: I heard it this morning. Adams thirty eight percent of 126 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: his snaps. I think came as a slot receiver in 127 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Snaps and slops right right. It's harder to 128 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: catch the ball on the side. Yeah, more miles of 129 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: feed than than when he was used to dealing with 130 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: m You know, in a quarterback who would just throw 131 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: him in the football? I think it's Max Crosby. Is 132 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: he after there? Yeah? He could be very much right 133 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: for the Chargers, Joey Bosa, that's pretty easy, I guess. 134 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah could. Yeah, they have some stars, but 135 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: you want posted to be, you know, one of the 136 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: best pass freshers in the league. Yeah, I mean it's 137 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: he's twenty six years old. He could win to the 138 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: year seven already. I mean, he could win defensive M 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: v P. You know, he's that type of guy. I 140 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: mean six years and seventh year already. Well, yeah, six 141 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: years and he's got fifty eight sacks. I mean that's 142 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: a good number, but not what you expected of Joey Bosa, 143 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: Like I know he's missed time and that's part of 144 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: that's a big part of it, m M but you 145 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: need that guy to stay healthy and play all seventeen games. Yeah, 146 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: and then he would probably be your m v P. 147 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Saying you guys, and you say the same thing about throwin, 148 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: stay healthy, play seventeen games, you might be the best 149 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: player in the field. Right. That's kind of been their 150 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: their issue a little bit, that the injuries have kind 151 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: of bit them a little bit. Yeah, with our defensive studs, 152 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: uh Miami, Tyreek Hill. Yeah, they're a team that needs 153 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: their quarterback to be the m v P right, absolutely, 154 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: Like some of these other teams, if the quarterbacks not 155 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: the m v P, they'll be Okay, Miami needs to 156 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: to be the team m v P. Yes, I agree 157 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: with you there. I don't. I would probably put if 158 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: I wrote this article, I probably but Tyreke there. But 159 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: I don't think he will be the m v P. 160 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he might have a better year than him. 161 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he will either. I think they're gonna 162 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: use him a little differently. Um, he's not gonna you 163 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: might be Savin Howard or Armstead or somebody like that. Yeah, 164 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: but that's just your waddle doesn't have a better year 165 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: than Tyreek. Yeah, no, I think you're right because he's 166 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: he's got a rapport with Yeah, and he's every bit 167 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: is explosive to for New England, Matthew. Judean kind of 168 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: shows what this rosters like. Yeah, he was maybe maybe dugger. Yeah, 169 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean those are the two defensive players I like. 170 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: I like Barmore a lot, but he's maybe next year. 171 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: I mean, Barmore wouldn't start for the Steelers, you know. 172 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean there's no love with I guess to be 173 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry or Davante Parker. But those guys don't have 174 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: high ceilings. Yeah, that's that's just not realistic. No, right, 175 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean Judean is a really good player. I don't 176 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: think his name was listed even an honorable mention when 177 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: we talked about the edgedresher Zoe in the league. No, 178 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: he wasn't. He wasn't mentioned, like and he's like their 179 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: best player. Yeah, that's that speaks volumes volumes. Well, this 180 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: next guy wasn't listed either, but he was kind of 181 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind for the Jets. It's 182 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson. There are another team that needs your quarterback 183 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: to be the VP. Yeah, I mean like Daniel Jones, 184 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to uh like you need that kind of 185 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: he sees it out of these young guys that kind 186 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: of to kind of show, yeah, you know, one to 187 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: put a lot around you guys. I don't know who 188 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I picked for the Jets though, I mean it might 189 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: be Breece Hall could be that would be a good one. 190 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean if he if he, if he's their team 191 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: m v P, they had a decent season. If he 192 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: had a nausey like rookie year, you know, that solves 193 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: a lot of problems for them. Yeah. Absolutely. And they've 194 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: got a decent offensive line. Oh, they've got a great 195 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: pair of guards and affecting can stay healthy. Yeah. And 196 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: they got weapons now, I mean there's pieces around Wilson. Yeah. 197 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: There there's no excuses for him this year. Um, he's 198 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: gotta turn it on for the Steelers, is t J. Watt? Yeah, 199 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's an easy one. It is. Um. 200 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: In fact, he did when he did win the Team 201 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: MVP award last year, so in the defensive MVP and yeah, yeah, 202 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean it just pretty strong. Are the Steelers a 203 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: team that need their quarterback to be that league team MVP. 204 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: So I think you're phrasing that a little wrong because 205 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that to h. Jones Wilson need them 206 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: to be in a conversation, yeah right, I'm not sure 207 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: they can be the team m v P. But if 208 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: everyone if they can be the answer, yes, you know 209 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, like if yeah, if the teammates at 210 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: least consider them for the for the Team award, Like 211 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to be Ben from five years ago, 212 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: right right, you know that's the that's carrying the team. 213 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: But they can't be an anchor, right, They've got at 214 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: least hold up their end of the bargain. M hmm. 215 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: Like if Priest halls the Jets m v P, but 216 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: Wilson was everyone's second or third vote, the Jets would 217 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: do cartwheels for that. For the Steelers, don Jay Harris 218 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: could be that guy too. Yeah, it's kind of kind 219 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: of like the Child Dare conversation. You know, the volume 220 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be there, and if the offense takes to 221 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: step forward, he's probably gonna have eight hundred yards total offense. Yeah. 222 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: For the Titans, Derrick Henry, Yeah, I mean we talked 223 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: about we talked about Jeffrey Simmons. I think Jeffrey Simmons 224 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: could be that team MVP as well. I think that 225 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: teams have big I think they're in trouble. Yeah, the 226 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: way that they want to play yeah, right, the way 227 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: they want to play football. Yeah, I mean Burkes can't 228 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: finish a practice, Woods isn't healthy yet, the lines kind 229 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: of crumbling. I think they already fall from Grace type 230 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: of team this year and will probably be the answer. Yeah. 231 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: In eight games last season that he played, Derrick Henry 232 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: average twenty seven point four carries per game. That would 233 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: have worked out to four hundred and sixty five carries 234 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: four anyone carry if anyone in the history of the 235 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: world can handle it. He's as freaky as any back ever. 236 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: But nobody can handle that. No, but nobody, right, I mean, 237 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: that's two seasons worth for most guys, right, right, right, 238 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: If you think that's more than I think that's more 239 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: than Melvin Gordon and Javonte Williams together. If you're running 240 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: back carried the ball two thirty times over the course 241 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: of the season, you'd say, oh, he's he's a workhorse 242 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: back guy player, Like I bet like mixings in that neighborhood. Yeah, 243 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: you know he was on pace for four d and 244 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: then wonder why he got hurt? Right, I don't come 245 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: back and it'll be fine, don't worry about it again. 246 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: What could go wrong? And that was after a season 247 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: in which he carried it about four inner times, right, 248 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and they're not little cute runs of the outside reach. 249 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: That's a huge target. That's insane. Um. Yeah, that's that's 250 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Patra's list here. I wanted to talk to your 251 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: what quick Matt about a little stead I dug up 252 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: um yesterday as well after the Baker Mayfield stat or trader, 253 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: I should say, so, I went back and I looked 254 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: at the two thousand fifteen through two thousand nineteen drafts. Okay, 255 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: there were in that period, I believe it was seventeen 256 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks taken in the first round. Okay, from two thousand 257 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: fifteen to two thousand nineteen. We're not talking about ancient 258 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: history here, No, these are guys that should be starting 259 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: in foundational players. Of those seven team players, five are 260 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: still with the team that drafted them. Wow, first round 261 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: draft picks. You go into what was the cut off 262 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: two thousand so five drafts? Okay, twenty. I mean the 263 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: two draft. Those guys are still gonna be with their 264 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: teams at this point of course, Yeah, they're still on 265 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: their first contract, but the guys are still Yeah. One 266 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: of those guys, funny we mentioned to uh and will 267 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: he be there next year? Yea, loved me there next 268 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: yearen draft was Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Dayne Haskins, all 269 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: new teams as his Drew Lock, Murray, Murray still with 270 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Jones. Yeah, Jardan Jones is still with the 271 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: with the Giants. But is he going to be next year? Right? 272 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: I bet not, but it's possible. Team was Baker Mayfield, 273 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Josh Allen, Josh Roseen, Lamar Jackson. Three of 274 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: those guys were with new teams. Josh Allen or Josh 275 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: Rosen is not even in the league right now, and 276 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: he's already played for five teams right and the Panthers 277 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: didn't draft either. One of the guys that we just 278 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: mentioned seventeen is Trabiski Mahomes. Watson Mahomes is the only 279 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: one who still with his team. Yeah. Kaiser was the 280 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: next guy picked after that, Sure he's in the league. 281 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: Six team was Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch All 282 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: the all three of those, all three of those guys 283 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: are with new teams or out of the league. Hack 284 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: pick that for him, he's he never even played. Yeah 285 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: right right, uh and then remarkable, Yeah, fifth team was 286 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariotta, both of whom were with 287 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: new teams. Mariotta is on his third team. I mean 288 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: it's a reeky go back further and further too. I 289 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: mean the year before that is Bordles Manzel Bridgewater, the 290 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: year before that is EJ. Manuel, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin, 291 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Tannehill Weed, And none of these guys are with their 292 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: I T. Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blame Gabbert, Christian Ponder, 293 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, like go back and back and back sand Bradford. 294 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: That's that's why I think the Steelers are doing the 295 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: right thing by taking their time with Kenny Pickett. Don't 296 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: pigeonhole him in there and say he has to start. 297 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: If you look at the guys who who have worked 298 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: out the best among those those players, obviously, you know 299 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was the number one overall. Umah, yeah he 300 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: was happy with k Yeah. Um, But you look at 301 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: some of these other guys, Josh Allen. They traded up 302 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: to get him. The Bills weren't a bad football team, No, 303 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: they were. I know that the Chiefs for a playoff team, 304 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: I think the Bills. The Bills are not quite yet. 305 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: The Bills I think had gotten into the playoffs the 306 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: year before that. I think because yeah, they went down 307 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: and lost. I think they lost. No one thought they 308 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: could make the playoffs and they yeah right, yeah, though 309 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: they lost in Jacksonville that year. Okay in the first 310 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: in the first round. So I mean they weren't a 311 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: bad football team. Mahomes. They traded up to get him. 312 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: They were a good team. They were a good team. 313 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Um really, I mean those are the guys that that 314 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: you know. You can't rush these guys, is my point. 315 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: You have to take your time and put them in 316 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: a good spot. No. I do think if if the 317 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: Steelers were forced to start, um can he Pickett? He 318 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: would be Okay, they're not gonna They're not gonna be 319 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: awful because they were again, they were a playoff team 320 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: last year. There's still a certain way and too much 321 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: there's still stuff around him. But these these teams that 322 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: are you know, Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, 323 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: Mac Jones from last year. Chances are looking back if 324 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: you if you judge it by what happened in that draft, 325 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: when five quarterbacks were taken in the first round, three 326 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: of which we were now on new teams, Chances are 327 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: three of those five guys won't be with the teams 328 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: that drafted them two years from now. I was thinking 329 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: about this, like, what if two years from now Trey 330 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Lance and Trevor Lawrence are both on the Bucks. That 331 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: sounds impossible, but that's exactly what just happened yesterday, right, 332 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I mean. Expen Right, there's no way 333 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Trevor Lawrence could both be on the 334 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: same team two years from now They're both are Giants. 335 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that That's exactly exactly what happened. So yeah, I mean, 336 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: I think you know the people out there, I've seen 337 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: this a lot. Well, if Kenny Pick is not starting 338 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: for them for the Steelers this year, that was a 339 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: wasted draft pick. Be patient, all right, don't rush, don't 340 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: rush the young quarterback in there, and you know, learning 341 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: on the job is both good and bad. Like, I 342 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: don't love back Corral, but that trade yesterday is great 343 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: for him because he was really thrown in there too early. 344 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Otherwise right now he won't, you know, because Darnold's junk. 345 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: So they'll bench him when the road and three and 346 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: everyone will be chanting for Corral and now they won't. 347 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: You know. It's fantastic. Yeah, So yeah, just keep that 348 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: in mind Steeler fans when uh, you know, when Kenny 349 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Pickett's not starting at least early in this season, that 350 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, to be patient with it. Let the young 351 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: guy and I know everybody, he's the most you know 352 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: NFL already guy, there's no such thing. There's the one 353 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: thing that's not well is definitely a factor in all 354 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: this movement, is all the coaching movement. And the Steelers 355 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: don't have that, you know, like I worry about justin 356 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: Fields already, that this staff didn't draft them, so they 357 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: inherit a guy that maybe they like, maybe they don't, 358 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: who knows, you know, and they have they're you know, 359 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: when two games and the staff says, well, let's draft 360 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: the Bama kid. Move on from Fields. Yeah, I mean 361 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: those kind of things happen all the time, all the time. 362 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: One other little nugget. I dug up, Matt, I'm i'm 363 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm loaded with nuggets and nuggets. So the Steelers were 364 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: eight to one last year and one score games really good, 365 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: really really good. They haven't had a losing record in 366 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: one score game since, in one possession games. That's a 367 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: long conversation that we don't have time for, but I 368 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: promise you some of my favorite analytic people Football Outsider's 369 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: Guide will say, well, they'll probably be five and one 370 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: score games. That's unsustainable, and they're probably right. They'll probably 371 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: be closer to five hundred. But I've also noticed, over 372 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: like the last five, more like the last ten years, 373 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: do you know who the best teams are in one 374 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: score games? The Steelers, the Patriots, the Ravens, and the Packers. 375 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that's an accident. I don't think it 376 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: is either. You know, here's the thing so I looked 377 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: at that that made me look this up because there 378 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: was there was somebody posted a social media tweet to say, well, 379 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers are gonna They're not gonna be eight to 380 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: and one. They'll probably regress regress quite a bit in 381 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: that regard. Okay, but they're not gonna go They're not 382 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna go to eight and one exactly. That's about say 383 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: or better. You know what, Mr Rabinsky's record in his 384 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: career in one score games is no clue, sixteen and eleven. 385 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: M it's actually pretty good considering the team he was 386 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: playing with and considering his overall win loss record beater 387 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: on one score games percentage y as than not. And 388 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, I just found that interesting that you know, well, 389 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna predict that the stealer, you know, they're gonna 390 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: be five, and they went six and five and one 391 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: score games in twenty nine team with Devlin Hodges and 392 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph. Yeah, right, right, right right. So it's 393 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: not just a quarterback thing. I know, the numbers sometimes 394 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: will tell you across the league everyone's gonna regrets to five. 395 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: If you're two and eight, then you'll probably be four 396 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: and four next year. But I think that there's an 397 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: art to winning one score games too, and I think 398 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with coaching, a 399 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: lot of it obviously has to do with quarterback and 400 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: back to your team m v P. Not quarterback guys. 401 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: It's sure nice to have Justin Tucker with four seconds 402 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: left in the game in one game. Yeah, in a 403 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: one point game, and you're much the same way. It's 404 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: nice to have a guy like Chris Boswell in those situations. Absolutely, Yeah, 405 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: I have a top five type kicker. Yeah. You can 406 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. You can play a 407 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: little different too. You don't take as many risks and not, 408 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, not being like the Chargers who cycled through 409 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: chick kickers every year. And you know that's that's right. Yeah, 410 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: that's that's important. Yeah, and it was gonna take another break. 411 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 412 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 413 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: back with more right after this