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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show. Tonight we'll

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Speaker 1: review the Browns picks and other top signings from around

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: This is the.

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Ken Carmen and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Such a long way, but the weekend over and your

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns have seven new draft picks as well as

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Speaker 2: some free agent signings, and we'll get to them all

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Speaker 2: tonight during the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show on the

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Speaker 2: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Good evening, friends, Ken

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Speaker 2: Carmen alongside of Nathan Zegura. Hello, Nathan, Good evening, Monfrere.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: As always, as we like to do around this time

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Speaker 3: a year, spend some time together talk about the new

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns and yes, you know it. It was a

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Speaker 3: fun and I think honestly a very productive weekend and

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Speaker 3: it was one that going into it, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you felt, but it didn't necessarily have the buzz

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Speaker 3: normally the draft has, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: It means that the team is is that are put together.

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Speaker 3: But it was also the fact that they didn't start

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Speaker 3: picking until pick number seventy four. But yet, you know,

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Speaker 3: you look at Pro Football Focuses big board, your favorite,

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Speaker 3: you look at Dane Brugler's big board, and the Browns

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Speaker 3: came out of it with five players on both of

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Speaker 3: those respective top one hundred big boards, despite you know,

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Speaker 3: their first two picks being seventy four and ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: So it felt like a great value draft by Andrew

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Speaker 3: Barrian company. And now it's exciting. We've got some competition.

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Speaker 3: I think we've got some succession planning, and we've got

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Speaker 3: some talented and big individuals now in the Brown Orange.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we do, certainly. And we got seven new draft picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: going back to what it was on Thursday and Friday night,

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Speaker 2: you know, there was a lot of conversation about other

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Speaker 2: teams and their draft picks. A couple of teams were impressive.

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Speaker 2: A couple of teams us left us scratch in our head.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get to those teams coming up here in

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Speaker 2: a bit. But I think that some of it is

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Speaker 2: where you know, we're kind of getting used to not

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Speaker 2: having a first round pick. There's no first round pick

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Speaker 2: next year, clearly, and then we'll get ready for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. But there's always an anticipation no matter where

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Speaker 2: you're drafted in the first round, whether you're at the

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Speaker 2: end or where you're at the very big getting what

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Speaker 2: type of player you're gonna get. Well, because there was

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Speaker 2: none of those first night jitters. I think that still

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Speaker 2: in year two of not having a first or technically

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Speaker 2: kind of overreacting to the Night two picks, and I

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Speaker 2: think that there was a little bit of a people

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Speaker 2: really liked the picks on Night two. B people really

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Speaker 2: didn't like them because they're used to it because of

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Speaker 2: knee jerk reactions in the past, and then those factions

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Speaker 2: started fighting each other on the internet, Nathan. But when

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Speaker 2: we broke down, these players just a lot of solid

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Speaker 2: Andrew Berry was able to get for this football team

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Speaker 2: and to really help out and certainly fill out the

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Speaker 2: depth of what it was really needed for this Cleveland

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, and you know what's amazing is I

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Speaker 3: think I'm right when I say this. I think this

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Speaker 3: is only this is the third time in the last

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Speaker 3: five years we hadn't had a first round pick because

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen we traded for Odell Beckham Junior. No first

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Speaker 3: the last two years no first or second. But let's

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Speaker 3: start at pick number seventy four. Cedric Tilly This is

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Speaker 3: My knowledge of Cedric Tillman was not high. That was

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Speaker 3: he would be, you know, the first receiver off the

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Speaker 3: And you look at what he did against the best

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Speaker 3: But he can move. His athletic testing because at that

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Speaker 3: this is I think a surprisingly good pick. And I

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Speaker 3: can tell you you'll hear from Glenn Cook later on in

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the next pick. And I like

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Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman just fine. He was very nice with us

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Speaker 2: But I tell you, I'm getting more and more excited

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Speaker 2: a name that was very not very talked to, not

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Speaker 2: Siakika was a name that got brought up every now

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Speaker 2: and then, and then because it's a big twelve defensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: it's a game of red rover to let Siakieka come over.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to seeing I'm during training camp.

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Speaker 3: Monfrere, Yeah me too. And you know again, he was

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Speaker 3: So he can push the pocket, he can play the run.

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Speaker 3: He's a big, big man, and he's a guy who

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Speaker 3: with you Friday night, Danny Shelton. You'd heard that name.

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Speaker 3: I now if Siakika has Danny Shelton's career home run

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Speaker 3: pick at number ninety eight. There could not be more

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Speaker 3: He was telling me he was, you know, the youngest

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Speaker 3: But he said he's got that same mentality. I think

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Speaker 3: Browns drafted him. This is this is what we needed.

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Speaker 3: We need when we've got the linebacking corps, we do

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Speaker 3: be clean. And now siaki Eka, they think not only

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Speaker 3: make plays in the backfield. I said earlier today, of

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Speaker 3: all the guys in this draft class, I think the

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Speaker 3: person with the opportunity to make the biggest day one

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Speaker 3: impact and year one impact is probably siaki Eka.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah maguire goes in the fourth roundjan Jones goes in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. A lot of the highest know about

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Speaker 2: Tell us more about Isaiah McGuire, the defensive end out

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Speaker 3: He has been their team captain. He was has led

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Speaker 3: you know Isaiah McGuire. His most impressive tape actually comes

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Speaker 3: by the Steelers. I think number fourteen overalls. Yep, that

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard about flows Adams in such a long time. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: it was very very fine. Credit to the House Cowboys. Yes,

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Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show on the

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Here again, King Carmen

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show all

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Speaker 3: along the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Very excited

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Speaker 3: now to be joined by one of the big l luminaries,

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Speaker 3: Brown's Assistant general manager, Glenn Cook. Glenn, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm good. I wouldn't call myself an illuminary.

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Speaker 3: a sure you're an exclusive club there. Do you take

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it never stops. Right now, we're still

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three NFL Draft, And for the Browns, that

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Speaker 3: So this was a coveted asset.

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Speaker 4: in terms of options. But it really was just that

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Speaker 4: kind of big picture approach of making sure that we

434
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Speaker 4: could be attacking in a versatal amount of ways, you know,

435
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Speaker 4: in this league, which is pretty hard to do.

436
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Speaker 3: All right now, one of the things that I think

437
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Speaker 3: going into it, everybody agreed you wanted to get bigger

438
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Speaker 3: on that defensive line. You go out and get Dalvin

439
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Speaker 3: Thomlinson to start free agency, and then you get a

440
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Speaker 3: lot bigger Siacky he got out of Baylor. What stood

441
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Speaker 3: out to you about him and the fit that he

442
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Speaker 3: can bring to them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just his ability to disrupt, you know,

444
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Speaker 4: I think that's the first piece, not necessarily only just size,

445
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Speaker 4: right like I think you do. It maybe feels that

446
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Speaker 4: way because you know him and Dalvin those.

447
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Speaker 3: Are two big, oh we'll talk about it, big big.

448
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Speaker 4: Grown men, but you know, we think both guys are

449
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Speaker 4: really going to disrupt, you know, inside, And I think

450
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Speaker 4: when you can kind of muddy up the picture for

451
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Speaker 4: the quarterback, make him uncomfortable in the pocket, you know,

452
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Speaker 4: make the running back change direction before he hits the

453
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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, I think, you know, when you can

454
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Speaker 4: do that puts you in a position to be really

455
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Speaker 4: good on defense. So that was really the approach, more

456
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Speaker 4: so than just a size that can happen with smaller

457
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Speaker 4: into your guys, but just so happened that you know,

458
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Speaker 4: you had a big three hundred and thirty pounder looking

459
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Speaker 4: at us at pick ninety eight and you know, couldn't

460
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Speaker 4: pass him up.

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Speaker 3: You know what struck me about him is obviously he

462
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Speaker 3: came to Maria and I want to say Saturday and

463
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Speaker 3: we got to meet him. After that, In my mind,

464
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Speaker 3: you know, you hear and all they see a lot

465
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Speaker 3: of the comps up on the screen. Though Danny Shelvan

466
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Speaker 3: Danshield had a great NFL career, I just thought he

467
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Speaker 3: was constructed so differently, bigger, taller, not as wide per se.

468
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Speaker 3: But I mean he's a massive man, but just looks

469
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Speaker 3: very well put together. He carries three thirty three point

470
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Speaker 3: fifty whatever he's at well, which I did not expect.

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Speaker 4: He's a big dude, he do, and I mean he

472
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Speaker 4: can move the weight. You know, he gets a move

473
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Speaker 4: and that's the thing, like, uh, I think he be

474
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Speaker 4: talked about it like you want guys that can move,

475
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Speaker 4: and uh, you know move. It's not just about being

476
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Speaker 4: big on offense or defensive line. But you in this league,

477
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Speaker 4: you know you got to be athletic as well, and

478
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Speaker 4: we think he's got that in him.

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Speaker 3: Well, not often would you go from six three, three

480
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Speaker 3: thirty three fifty two. Well, yeah, you're not even the

481
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Speaker 3: biggest guy in your draft class. But we did that

482
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Speaker 3: because in the beginning of the fourth round, Dwan Jones,

483
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Speaker 3: the huge, huge tackle out of Ohio State. Now a

484
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Speaker 3: lot of people thought he was going to go a

485
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Speaker 3: lot earlier. What about that spot made the Browns want

486
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Speaker 3: to pull the trigger. And you know, I talked to

487
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Speaker 3: Joe Thomas earlier today and he thinks this guy could

488
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Speaker 3: be a pro bowler for years to come if he

489
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Speaker 3: applies himself, especially with the opportune to work at tal.

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Speaker 4: You know, with all these guys, it's like, you know,

491
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Speaker 4: we're gonna make sure we put him in the best

492
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Speaker 4: position to maximize who they are. And I think if

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Speaker 4: the one maximizes him, man like this guy could be

494
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Speaker 4: pretty good. Just his ability to keep the quarterback clean.

495
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Speaker 4: I think that's what jumps out right, Like you want

496
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Speaker 4: to keep the qb upright, you know, when you need

497
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Speaker 4: to throw the ball, everybody knows you're throwing it. You know,

498
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Speaker 4: you got horses coming off the edge on the other side.

499
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Speaker 4: You want a mountain of a man like that trying

500
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Speaker 4: to protect the quarterback, right, And so him, like all

501
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Speaker 4: the rest of the rookies, they're going to have things

502
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Speaker 4: that they need to come in and clean up and

503
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Speaker 4: work on and develop that. But we love the starting place.

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Speaker 4: You know, like you can't buy that size, you can't

505
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Speaker 4: buy the length, you can't buy the productive productivity that

506
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Speaker 4: he's had as a pass bocker. So that that that's

507
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Speaker 4: what excited us about him. To be honest, there.

508
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Speaker 3: Are a lot of big people, but maybe they can't move.

509
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Speaker 3: This was a basketball poper and that I think is

510
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Speaker 3: that something gives you guys more confidence because so much

511
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Speaker 3: you talk about tackles. Right, Yes, there's the technique and

512
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Speaker 3: you'll get that chance to master that with probably with

513
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Speaker 3: the best Bill Callahan and Scott Peters. But you have

514
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Speaker 3: to have the feet and if you're a basketball player,

515
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Speaker 3: chances are you were pretty good with your movement skills

516
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Speaker 3: and that'll help him. At six.

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Speaker 4: A's good film out there on them, there is them.

518
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Speaker 4: But yeah, like I said, when you when you got

519
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Speaker 4: guys coming off the edge like Myles, you know, trying

520
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Speaker 4: to get after your quarterback and cause havoc, you want

521
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Speaker 4: to match that as much as you can with the

522
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Speaker 4: size and the ability to move and redirect. And I

523
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Speaker 4: think about the line. It's not always pretty, you know,

524
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: it's not perfect, you know, but you you want to

525
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Speaker 4: put yourself in the best position to just keep him clean.

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Speaker 4: How have you got to get it done? Just keep

527
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Speaker 4: the quarterback clean. Sodwan's Dwan definitely got it in him.

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Speaker 2: Brown's assistant GM Glenn Cook part one of his exclusive

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Speaker 2: with Nathan Zigura and Nathan, when you guys talk about

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Speaker 2: what this team has put together and how you want

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Speaker 2: to put this football team together, do you think that

532
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Speaker 2: they were able to execute the vision the way they

533
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Speaker 2: wanted to here, especially with that wide receiver room in

534
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Speaker 2: those top in those top picks that.

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Speaker 3: They had absolutely and I think you heard from Glenn

536
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Speaker 3: right there going through in great detail of the top

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Speaker 3: three picks in the draft for the Browns and that

538
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Speaker 3: they were surprised that Cedric Tillman was there, that he

539
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Speaker 3: can be a true X for this team in this

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Speaker 3: offense at six ' three, with the size, with his

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Speaker 3: productivity against some of the best that you know, college

542
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Speaker 3: football had offering the best conference in college football. So

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Speaker 3: I like that discussion. Obviously you heard him talk about

544
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Speaker 3: Siaki Eka and then Dewan Jones, just two monstrously big

545
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Speaker 3: human beings, and it really gives you you know, the

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Speaker 3: Browns got bigger, they got tougher, I think, and they've

547
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Speaker 3: got certainly in Dewan Jones as he heard, they're a

548
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Speaker 3: guy that has the potential to be a big time player.

549
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Speaker 3: He's got those good feet. So I do think they

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Speaker 3: executed it. I mean, Dwan Jones had a first or

551
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Speaker 3: a second round grade on a lot of different draft boards.

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Speaker 3: He fell not because of his skills or what he

553
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Speaker 3: could be, you know, apparently the draft process didn't go

554
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Speaker 3: as well for him as it could. But if he

555
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Speaker 3: is dedicated and decide and wants to be great, he

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Speaker 3: will be. And I think that'll end up looking at

557
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Speaker 3: as a steal. There was talk that, you know, other teams,

558
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Speaker 3: even in our own division, had their draft boards gone differently,

559
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Speaker 3: would have taken him as early as the first or

560
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Speaker 3: second round. And now he's here in Cleveland, So I'm

561
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Speaker 3: pretty excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Outstandy Coming up next Part two a Glenn Cook, Brown's

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Speaker 2: general manager, and Nathan Zegura, and then after that we

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Speaker 2: go around the league. You're listening to the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: Draft Review Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network.

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Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show on the

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio network. Here again, Kim Carmen

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Speaker 1: and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman, Siaki Ekadwan Jones, Isaiah McGuire, Dorian Thompson, Robinson

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Speaker 2: Cameron Mitchell, Luke Wipler. They are brand new Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about them all with the brand new well no,

572
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Speaker 2: not brand new, but it always feels like it because

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Speaker 2: we're right here in draft season with the Browns assistant

574
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Speaker 2: assistant general manager Glenn Cook, with our very own Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Here's part two of their interview.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll flip it around to somebody who doesn't

577
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Speaker 3: want to keep the opposing quarterback clean, Isaiah McGuire. And

578
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Speaker 3: this is a name that it felt like throughout the process,

579
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Speaker 3: and this is the outside pundits. Obviously, this was a

580
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Speaker 3: name that had been linked to the Browns a lot,

581
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Speaker 3: and maybe even at pick ninety eight, people thought maybe maguire,

582
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Speaker 3: maybe even at seventy four. Well you get him at

583
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Speaker 3: one twenty six. What did you guys like about him?

584
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Speaker 3: You know, very productive in the sec again, I think

585
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Speaker 3: twenty seven tackles for lost, thirteen and f sacks the

586
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Speaker 3: last two years. And again another big guy six four

587
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Speaker 3: two seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I said, like it's not only as

589
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Speaker 4: big as actually he's he's sneaky athlete, he's a.

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Speaker 3: Very real he's off the charts at least, you.

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Speaker 4: Know he can ben, he's physical. I think it just

592
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Speaker 4: his ability to dent to pocket with its size and

593
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Speaker 4: length and power. Those things all really jumped out with him.

594
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Speaker 4: And to your point, you know, in that conference, going

595
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Speaker 4: up against the guys he played against it, you know,

596
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Speaker 4: there's some times where you're like, man, this dude is

597
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Speaker 4: this dude is having himself a game. It's just stretches

598
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Speaker 4: of dominance in both phases. But uh, you know, we

599
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Speaker 4: were surprised that he was sitting there, to be honest,

600
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Speaker 4: you know, it's one of those things where at some point,

601
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Speaker 4: you know, the best player available has got to be

602
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Speaker 4: taken off the board, you know, and so we're really

603
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Speaker 4: excited to get him at one twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is Georgia tape right, Broderick Jones woulded up going

605
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Speaker 3: and he's gonna get a chance to go against him

606
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Speaker 3: twice a year going four with the Pittsburgh Sinwers. But

607
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Speaker 3: I thought that was it really stood out that this

608
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Speaker 3: is a guy that was a consensus first round tackle

609
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Speaker 3: and a top fifteen pick, and McGuire looked pretty darn

610
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Speaker 3: good against him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he put I mean, like I said, he put

612
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Speaker 4: some reps on film that really gets you excited. And

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Speaker 4: I think at times, you know, you can chase the

614
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Speaker 4: sexy speed guy, but uh, you know his ability to

615
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 4: just utilize power and be physical, You're like, oh, it

616
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Speaker 4: didn't always have to be fast and sudden. You know,

617
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: when you can just move big guys, you know, guys

618
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Speaker 4: like Dewan and Jed and Dent the pocket, that's that's

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Speaker 4: really important. Like I said, you want to disrupt the

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Speaker 4: QB and make it tough for him. So we're excited

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Speaker 4: to get him in there. And the thing about the

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Speaker 4: d line room, you can never have enough, you know,

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Speaker 4: right like you want to keep those fresh. You want

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Speaker 4: to keep those guys competitive and hunting the quarterback for

625
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Speaker 4: sixty seventy plays. So you know, we'll never stop chasing

626
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Speaker 4: that position group, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, position group. You never stop chasing anither quarterback. And

628
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: now we have the guy into Shaun Watson, but you're

629
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Speaker 3: looking for maybe that long term backup, somebody that can

630
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Speaker 3: be in this program with him for a long time.

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Speaker 3: We've got Dobbs Kellen Bond we brought over last year,

632
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Speaker 3: and then you draft Dorian Thompson Robinson, who you know,

633
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Speaker 3: I grew up in California, so I do still have

634
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Speaker 3: an affinity for the Pac twelve and I was a

635
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 3: Pac ten back in my day. He was UCLA for many,

636
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Speaker 3: many years. And you know this year sixty nine percent completion,

637
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Speaker 3: almost seventy sixty nine point six. He can throw it,

638
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Speaker 3: he can run it, and he's so tough, and it

639
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: felt like he matured this year in his game. But

640
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Speaker 3: what did you guys like about him? And and by

641
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Speaker 3: the way, I expect he consider Tilman to hit the ground,

642
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: run ye rookie Minniicamp, high school teamate.

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Speaker 4: High school teamates. He's also he just played a lot

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Speaker 4: of football, you know, lots. He played pretty much his

645
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: entire career at UCLA and battle through some adversity. That's

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Speaker 4: the thing, like you when you get guys like him

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Speaker 4: who've had to go through some things and have a

648
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Speaker 4: season like this at the end, it shows that he

649
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: he's got some forward two to him and he can battle.

650
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Speaker 4: And so you know he's he's battle tested in that sense.

651
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: He's really experienced. But also he's really really talented. I mean,

652
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: he's athletic, he can sling the football, he can make

653
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: plays outside the pocket. There's some times on film where

654
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Speaker 4: this he's one of the best players on the field.

655
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, to get him at five and

656
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: obviously he's got no pressure, you know, hopefully to come

657
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: in and play and he can learn and tit back

658
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: behind Deshaun and watch, you know, one of the best

659
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: guys in the league get after it every day in practice. Uh,

660
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: you know, it probably couldn't be a better situation for him,

661
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: and honestly a better situation for us.

662
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: What did you see from his passing? Because the six

663
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Speaker 3: and nine point six percent that represented a nice jump

664
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Speaker 3: and was best mark of his career. You know, he

665
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: said it was because he wasn't really in school anymore,

666
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: so he was just fully focused in immersed in football

667
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: and was able to improve like his anticipatory throwing. But

668
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: what did you guys see And do you think that's

669
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Speaker 3: somebody that can you know, continue to ascend, Because you're right,

670
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: you watch a highlight tape of him. I mean, he

671
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: there's plenty of highlights that he's made in his.

672
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Speaker 4: I think he probably hit it on himself. It's just

673
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: that he's he's made up. He's progressed right throughout his career,

674
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Speaker 4: especially when you probably at that position you play early.

675
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: You know, you're really just playing off ability at times.

676
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: And so as he's grown more, you know, he played

677
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: under Chip, who's really offensive play caller. He really showed

678
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: comfort and poise this year that and more consistently that

679
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: maybe hadn't been shown in previous seasons. Uh, and so

680
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: like he really made a jump in that way, and

681
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: the second beiacet. He's just so talented, right, Like the

682
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: ball jumps out of his hand. You know, he's not

683
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: afraid to make some tight windle throws and be aggressive

684
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: and you know, and make plays like I mean, he

685
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Speaker 4: made some NFL throws, you know, week after week, and

686
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Speaker 4: so I think it's just you can't you can't hide

687
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: the arm talent. You know, we really trusting Kevin and

688
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Speaker 4: a vp uh to develop that, to develop him, to

689
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Speaker 4: develop the QB room. So you know, you give a

690
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Speaker 4: guy like that to Kevin, who's so talented, you know,

691
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Speaker 4: this guy's the limit for him.

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Speaker 3: Let's go quick on our last two. We appreciate the

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Speaker 3: time Glenn cam Mitchell, friend of Greg News. Some of

694
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Speaker 3: you guys go back to Northwestern for another corner. They

695
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: play such a pro style defense. What do you guys

696
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: like about him? And maybe some of that inside outside versatility.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I say. We were not intentional with

698
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Speaker 4: these parents, you know, really you know, it just works

699
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: out that way. But no, Cam, I mean competitive versatile

700
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: plays hard. You know, a tackler think about his ball production, pride,

701
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: and like his statistical ball production didn't actually match what

702
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: you know, what we saw in terms of film. I mean,

703
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: this dude's always type of receivers making it hard for

704
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Speaker 4: them to make catches, maybe not necessarily deflecting passes, but

705
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Speaker 4: just making it hard for QB's complete complete passes in

706
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Speaker 4: man coverage. So you know, he kind of he kind

707
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: of met the criteria that we look for, you know,

708
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Speaker 4: at that position, and we you know, we feel pretty

709
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: confident about how we've done in that position room, So yeah,

710
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Speaker 4: he's gonna come in, and you know it's it's just again,

711
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Speaker 4: so you're trying to add guys who can catch the

712
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Speaker 4: football and make plays, and now you're trying to add

713
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Speaker 4: guys who can stop him. So you know, we're trying

714
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Speaker 4: trying to be bolted on both sides of it, and

715
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Speaker 4: hopefully he can come in and contribute if necessary.

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Speaker 3: Then the sixth round and final pick of the draft,

717
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Speaker 3: Luke whippler out of Ohio State and a Buckeye fans

718
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Speaker 3: certainly very pleased a couple of those guys added to

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Speaker 3: the roster. But you know, talking people to Columbus bo,

720
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Speaker 3: who does CBDU with me? Does Bull connect down there?

721
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Speaker 3: They were surprised he left year, but a lot of

722
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Speaker 3: people thought had he stayed, he had a chance to

723
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Speaker 3: be an early pick. And here he comes out in

724
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Speaker 3: the sixth round when I was one second his whole

725
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: career there, two season starter. What did you guys like

726
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: about him? And it feels like he once again fits

727
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: that mold of what you guys look for. In the

728
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Speaker 3: middle of the smart tough film Junkie and and Somebody

729
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: with Bill Kallen was a chance, Really, I.

730
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Speaker 4: Think you hit it. That's I mean, I think him

731
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Speaker 4: and Bill are going to be best buds because I

732
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Speaker 4: think they think very much alike. This dude is locked

733
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Speaker 4: in everyone you talk to there. I mean, he's earned

734
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Speaker 4: the respect of his teammates and the coaching staff. He's

735
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Speaker 4: considered a coach. I mean, the dude's so smart, first

736
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Speaker 4: on the field, last off. So he's going to come

737
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Speaker 4: in a work hard to be competitive. I hope he

738
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Speaker 4: has a chip on the shoulder from you know, from

739
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Speaker 4: where he was drafted, you know, given his talent level.

740
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Speaker 4: But you know, he's going to be a very very

741
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Speaker 4: valuable piece to this offense. If we need him to,

742
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: he'll probably cross train. You know. We always try to

743
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Speaker 4: just make sure our old linement can can do a

744
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: bunch of different things, just with you know, the war

745
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: of attrition, you know up front. But you know, we

746
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Speaker 4: just of his mentality first and foremost. That's I guess

747
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: you can hear it. I'm pretty excited to add him

748
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: to the group because the dude is, he's a tough dude.

749
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Speaker 4: He was one of my favorite guys in terms of

750
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: just the way he approached the game of football. He

751
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: approaches it the right way. He's all about team. He

752
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: you know, he ran the show up front, so you know,

753
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: bringing that type of mentality and just the guy with

754
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Speaker 4: the pedigree of leadership that he has, Like, you know,

755
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Speaker 4: you can't pass him up, do you feel. I couldn't

756
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: agree more.

757
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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people are excited about him,

758
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: and this was a draft that it felt like you

759
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: got guys that can help you right now, but maybe

760
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: a lot of succession planning in the sense that you've

761
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: got to be realistic. This roster is not gonna be

762
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Speaker 3: able to maintain itself through twenty four, even into twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And now you got a couple of guys on the

764
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Speaker 3: offensive line that maybe can step into bigger roles. You

765
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: got somebody in the receiver room, maybe they can step

766
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Speaker 3: into a bigger role on the edges and in the

767
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: interior of the defensive line. It felt like there is

768
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Speaker 3: a great kind of balance, as ab talked about at

769
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Speaker 3: the beginning. You know, one foot in the present but

770
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Speaker 3: also one foot in the future, and it feels like

771
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: you guys kind of identify people who are both, which

772
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Speaker 3: is I think ideal.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean it's a difficult task, right, It's

774
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: difficult to try to balance out the feeling of thinking

775
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: your quote unquote one player away, but also trying to

776
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: maintain a sustainable competitive team for year after year. And

777
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, I think I think we're always going to

778
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 4: lean long term. You know, if those two things collide

779
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: short and long term. When they collide, will probably lean

780
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: long term. But you do have to balance out you know,

781
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: a guy who can contribute now, but also you know,

782
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: put the team in a position to transition and also

783
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: stay competitive. So it's it's that's our job though, right

784
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 4: and yep, and you know we're going to continue to

785
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: stay at that.

786
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Speaker 3: All right. Well, well, the Rookie Talent Show happens. I

787
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: got my money on Whippler. He's a juggler and a

788
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: stand up comedian. So something to keep note of there

789
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: when we when we see that later on. But Glen,

790
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: really appreciate the time, love it, great work. Excited to

791
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: see these guys get out here in a couple of

792
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Speaker 3: weeks for Rocky Minute Camp. And we appreciate you being

793
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Speaker 3: with us here tonight. Same all right, that's Brown's assistant

794
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: general manager, Glenn Cook. You want to throw a breakdown

795
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: of our draft class. You got it. We'll be back

796
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: with more of the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show all

797
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Speaker 3: along the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio network.

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Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns Draft Review Show on the

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals, Cleveland Brown's Radio network. Here again, King Carmen

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Speaker 1: and Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: It is time to go around the league. Nathan, are

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Speaker 2: you ready, my friend? I've never been more ready. Kenneth

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: sounds like it looks like it. Boy, We gotta get

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Speaker 2: you a new pair of headphones. This is I don't

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Speaker 2: know what this contraption is on your.

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00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: Headphones on headphones, baby, but.

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Speaker 2: This things got I go. You look like Lisa Sipster

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Speaker 2: with the with the facial stuff when she was getting

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Speaker 2: her braces on.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, if only, if only this was a video

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Speaker 3: for that, for people to enjoy. What's happening on my

812
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: head right now? We gotta it's a real mess. We

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00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: got a butte in front of us. Folks are right here.

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Speaker 2: We go. Biggest winners from the draft, now, don't put

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Speaker 2: the Browns in. I won for the AFC and one

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00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: from the NFC. You're gonna hate my answer. I'm gonna

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: have to do it. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I think we might have the same answer, but since

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing you're gonna say them, I won't. I'll say

820
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: the Colts. I thought the Colts had a great draft.

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00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: I love them getting Anthony Richardson. I think he's got

822
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 3: a huge upside. And I think that, you know, going

823
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: into that offense basically with what they did with Jalen Hurts,

824
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 3: you bring that to from Philadelphia to Indianapolis with Shane

825
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Steichen and you've got an opportunity there for him to

826
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: be with Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. They'll bring him

827
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: along slowly, Gardner Minshew can help mentor him. But I

828
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Speaker 3: thought they also made a bunch of other really good

829
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Speaker 3: picks there. So that would be my answer for the AFC.

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Speaker 3: All right, NFC, I mean, can we just exclude the Eagles?

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Speaker 2: It's easy. We're both saying the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: I'll say the Eagles. Not only would they got the

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00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: draft Hall, but then also to be able to get

834
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Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift as they did for really for a team

835
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Speaker 3: that is all in this year because it's a one

836
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: year rental, not an exorbitant price. In my opinion, I

837
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: thought that was a great job by them. But I

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: also think Seattle had an excellent draft as well in

839
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: the first round to get the top corner on their

840
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: board and Jackson Smith and Jig but to add him

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: to DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, I thought that was

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: really well done.

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Speaker 2: You have to make me say it, don't you. Why

844
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: do you make me say it? I don't want I

845
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: was gonna say it, all right. My AFC team is

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00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: a team that we're not gonna talk about because I'm

847
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: not gonna say it. I'm not gonna be the one

848
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: to put it down on paper or put it on

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00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: the air. That's gonna throw you off the air right now.

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00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles are the team of the NFC. We

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Speaker 2: all know who the team of the AFC is. Okay,

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00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: all right, I don't like it. I don't like their draft.

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00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't like it that they pick good players. All right,

854
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: we're moving on. What was the biggest head scratching selection

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: or trade of the weekend, and probably the one that

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00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: you and Diavis fought about for three outs.

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00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: John Robinson. They're not a serious team, that's it. They're

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00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: no closer to winning a Super Bowl than they were before.

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Speaker 3: And they've used to pick a number eight picking the

860
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Speaker 3: draft on a running back, And to me, it's completely insane.

861
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: I told you I knew. I watched all those Army

862
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: games for a reason, and you made fun of me

863
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: for it. And here we are, I'm gonna be watching.

864
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: Here we are.

865
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: It's the service Academy right there in the NFL. My friend,

866
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: that type of offense, I'm looking forward to it now.

867
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: I agree with you on what you said. I mean,

868
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: they got that type of running play, running game out

869
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: of players that you know, weren't first round. And I

870
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: don't know how much better it's gonna get with b

871
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: John Robinson. I mean, unless they think he's the second

872
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: coming of Barry Sanders. That's the only thing I can

873
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: think about. Yeah, well, Barry was able to run him

874
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs. It's just they were not a serious contender

875
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl, right.

876
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: And that's the case here. They may go to the

877
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: playoffs because of just the paucity of talent in the

878
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: NFC South, but that doesn't make them serious in my.

879
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: Book, AFC South Power Rankings. After three of the four

880
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: teams drafted new quarterbacks, Stroud went to Houston, Anthony Richardson

881
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: to the Colts. Will Levis fell to Day two, but

882
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: a very early Day two went to the Tennessee Titans.

883
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: What you got, Well, if you're talking for this season, yes,

884
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: this season right now, it's the Jags are number one

885
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: by a wide margin, and then it's probably the Colts

886
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: and Texans, and then I think, I think the Titans

887
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: their time is over, Like I think they're gonna let

888
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: what's what's the point of going with Tannehill? You gotta

889
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: let Lewis play. I would imagine you got Leves and

890
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: Milik Willis, you gotta let one of these play. I

891
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: think though, long term, if everybody hits, let's say all

892
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 3: of these teams hit, I think Houston's got a chance

893
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: to get maybe better, quicker. But I think Indianapolis has

894
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: the bigger ceiling long term because of I think Anthony

895
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: Richardson's upside.

896
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go Jacksonville number one. I mean, if

897
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: we're doing the power rankings, Jacksonville won, Titans, Colts, Texans. Okay,

898
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: I still think that they got some players on defense,

899
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: even though their defense was I they're hot and cold

900
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: every other year. Every other year they're a good defense.

901
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: In the other years the odd ears are they're Yeah,

902
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: they're not such a good defense, said Tennessee. I'm gonna

903
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: still take Tennessee number two. Anthony Richardson. I want him

904
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: to play after Thanksgiving at some point. And then you

905
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: and I talked about that over the weekend on Friday night.

906
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Definitely we're on the same page about that. And then

907
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: C J. Stroud, We'll see what he does in Houston.

908
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: They're gonna have some help there. Take the Browns out

909
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: of it, because you know, we're with the Browns. Give

910
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: me your top four teams in the NFL post draft.

911
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: Pun, Well, you gotta start with the Kansas City Chiefs,

912
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: to quote the great Rick Flair, to be the man. Woo,

913
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: you gotta beat the man, So they would be number

914
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: one for me. I like the Bank. The Eagles are

915
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: number two, Bengals are number three. A lot of familiar

916
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: names here, and then probably I'm gonna go with a flyer.

917
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: Just a team that I think is going to really

918
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: ascend this year. It's the Chargers. Really yeah, all right,

919
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say the Bills. Again. We don't

920
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: know who's quarterback in the Niners. I'm going Charger. You

921
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: could make the case for the Jets, can make the

922
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: case for us, can make the case for Baltimore, you

923
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: can make the case for.

924
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: I love Brock, but I know his his elbows messed up,

925
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: and I don't know when he's gonna be able to

926
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: come back fully healthy. I mean, that takes a long

927
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: time to recover from it. It took a long time to

928
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: get the swelling down for the surgery. All right, let

929
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: me go Philly. I actually put Philly above Kansas City

930
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: going into this show.

931
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: The Chiefs just beat him.

932
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm going into the season riding high.

933
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: That was last year, this is this year. Okay, we

934
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: gotta mix it up. Philly, Kansas City, then let me.

935
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pick Dallas, that's for sure. All right, Cincinnati,

936
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna pick Buffalo. I'm a little

937
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: worried though about the Stefan dig stuff being a hangover

938
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: type of thing. I think that people made a big

939
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: deal about that. I didn't blame him for being upset.

940
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a passionate guy. But I'm a little

941
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: bit worried about it. But you know, you can't pick

942
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: anything else. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna

943
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: pick Buffalo. All right, good stuff? No big fights there

944
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: we were, well, no, all right?

945
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: Cohesion coming up?

946
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: Coming up next the biggest needs that the Browns still

947
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: need to address, and the twenty twenty three schedule release.

948
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: According to reports, Thursday, May eleventh, Maybe we take a

949
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: sneak peek and look had find out.

950
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Next it's the.

951
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Draft review show on the University Hospitals Cleveland

952
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: Brown's radio network.

953
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns Draft review show on the

954
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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland, Brown's Radio Network. Here again, Kim Carmen

955
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: and Nathan Segura.

956
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: Nathan, before we get going here, let's take a look

957
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: at some of the needs. What do you think some

958
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: of the needs we still have to do. I'll start

959
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 2: it off. I'll say I want to pack the room

960
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: of defensive tackles as much as we possibly can before

961
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: training camp. I want a bunch of defensive tackles and

962
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: let's let them sort it out. Go ahead.

963
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: I think we've got like ten right now.

964
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: More twelve, fourteen, all of them get all. I think

965
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: we probably keep Washington, bring him back, see if he's

966
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: got a year or two. I don't.

967
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 3: I think we need another running back, like a pass catcher,

968
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: third down type of a back. And then I think

969
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: we need a third safety. But other than that, I

970
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: feel pretty good about where this roster is.

971
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: I like that because I know that you need depth

972
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: of defensive tapa.

973
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: Listen here.

974
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: I add anything we possibly can to the back end

975
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: of defensive tackle. I love Dalvin Tomlinson, and I think

976
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: that I think that you can have a decent run

977
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: with Jordan Elliott.

978
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Here.

979
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: Let's see what he can do. But I want to

980
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: see what the second wave and the third wave can do.

981
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: A defensive tackle, Nathan, go ahead, now I'm with you.

982
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: I was what I was gonna say is I think

983
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: that you look at you know what we've done and

984
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: the ability. Where could you add somebody you mentioned defense tackle.

985
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: I'll even throw a defensive end out there. And I

986
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: know that we just drafted McGuire. We drafted right, we

987
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: got Obo Okaron while we got Miles, but we'll have

988
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: about ten million dollars after June first. That's where I

989
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: could see a sign a veteran who like a good

990
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: veteran on a one year deal. Maybe it's a Frank

991
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: Clark on the edge. Maybe it's somebody in the middle,

992
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: like you were saying, where you bring somebody in and

993
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: you say, okay, all right, we're going for it, and

994
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: we think this veteran piece here can help us.

995
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: I love that. Bring Frank home. Thursday, May eleventh, Next Thursday,

996
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: schedule gets released. What are you thinking, you? What do

997
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: you want your Week one opponent to be? Real quick?

998
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: Got fifteen seconds go. He's taking his time, take it

999
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: too much time.

1000
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Too much time to send me time, baby, Let's go

1001
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: let's go.

1002
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: I'll take it all right, start off week one with Pittsburgh.

1003
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: Let's get it going early, all right, big thanks to

1004
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: everybody who joined us today. In a big thanks to

1005
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Speaker 2: everybody who helped Meredith Kane wonderfully Executive producer, Jason Gibbs

1006
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: for Nathan Zeger, I'm Ken Carmen. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 2: to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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