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Speaker 3: Well, it's been a hit, people, people hate you though.

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Speaker 3: I think there he's in up. Just a couple of

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Speaker 3: the fond.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and people still beating the drum. But that's okay,

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Speaker 2: I went them back over there you go. H It

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Speaker 2: is now time for the Fantasy Football Focus and a

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Speaker 2: Matt I thought, since this is a Steeler standalone game tomorrow, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and pick a captain's game. Okay, we

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Speaker 2: should be able to get this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on love of what we're picking from and

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Speaker 3: it's a little nasty and yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we have a better, more intimate knowledge of

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Speaker 2: the teams than most. It is our slumpbuster we will

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Speaker 2: get if we actually, if we just started our captain's

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Speaker 2: lineup last week, we would have won.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, the one we did on the air. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we just didn't return on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, we'll do it this week. All right,

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Speaker 2: So in the captain's chair, George Pickleck, Yes, what about

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Speaker 2: Steelers D in the captain's chair. I don't hate it.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have a million sacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go through it. But I'm just throwing it

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: Pickings is sixteen to five in the captain's chair. Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson is fifteen thousand, Justin Fields fourteen to seven. Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields more expensive than Jamis Winston. How about that.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make it.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense either to me. Jameis Winston

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Speaker 2: fourteen to four, Naujee Harris thirteen eight, Nick Chubb thirteen

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Speaker 2: to five, Jerry Judy twelve thousand, and Djoku is eleven four,

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Speaker 2: Sedric Tillman ten five, Elijah Moore nine to six, Jalm

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Speaker 2: Warren ninety three hundred. That would be attractive. Bailey's on

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Speaker 2: the Billy's appy. You don't need Deshaun Watson, Thompson, Robinson,

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Speaker 2: Um another Kyl.

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Speaker 3: There's not a ton of guys we picked from.

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Speaker 2: Steelers defense will be eighty one hundred in the captain's chair.

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Speaker 2: It's not that much cheaper than Jalm Warren.

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Speaker 3: I still love it.

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Speaker 2: Twelve hundred dollars, Boswell seventy five hundred, when Dustin Hopkins

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Speaker 2: is seventy two hundred. Jerome Ford is sixty six hundred,

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Speaker 2: The Browns defense is six thousand. Friar Moot is fifty

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Speaker 2: four hundred, Mike Williams forty eight hundred, Van Jefferson forty

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Speaker 2: two hundred, darn Darnell Washington is thirty six hundred.

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Speaker 3: I don't have I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want to go to the Steelers d

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Speaker 2: in the captain's share, I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I think we load up on the

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Speaker 3: expensive guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 2: points scored by the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Let's put it down yeah, and I think there could

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Speaker 3: be big plays by the Steeler d Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I might guarantee something like that, don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking Minka's first turnover in a long time is

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Speaker 3: coming in next twenty four hours or so. All Right.

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Speaker 2: That leaves us an average of almost eighty four hundred

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Speaker 2: to spend on our five flex players. Pickens is eleven thousand, Say.

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Speaker 3: Is Pickens worth it? If we don't think they're going

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Speaker 3: to throw a ton?

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Speaker 2: I think I think you have to put Nause Harris

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Speaker 3: I agree. Nause was the other one I was going

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Speaker 2: Start you start there. And I also think Jalen Warren

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Speaker 2: has to be in the lineup somewhere at.

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Speaker 3: Seventy two because he's taking them the same way.

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Speaker 2: He's sixty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think three of those got the defense, and

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Speaker 3: the two backs had a case to be in the captains.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that leaves us three spots we can average

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Speaker 2: eighty eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind putting Winston in because he's gonna throw

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Instead of picking Tillman or Judy or Najoku. I think

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Speaker 3: I just go at the quarterblanket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Okay, that leads us then sixteen nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: For our last two spots. You got Pickens at eleven thousand,

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson at ten thousand, Nick Chubb, Justin Fields is

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Speaker 2: ninety eight hundred. Nick Chubb is nine thousand. I'm just

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Speaker 2: looking for another cheap option, So I don't I kind

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Speaker 3: I might gonna put like Pickens in Darnel Washington.

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Speaker 2: We're pickings of Mike Williams.

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Speaker 3: Or I'm thinking big people. I don't want Austin. I

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Speaker 3: don't want Jefferson. I think he is going to be

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Speaker 3: a big bodied slugfest. Yeah, and could roll the dice

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Speaker 3: on one of the Browns past catchers. I just don't

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Speaker 3: know which one.

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Speaker 2: Which one would be the right? Yeah? You they almost

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Speaker 2: a start throw.

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Speaker 3: Well, who's the cheapest. I'm sure it's Elijah Moore.

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Speaker 2: He is sixty four hundred.

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Speaker 3: I mean they.

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Speaker 2: Judy's eight thousand and Joku seventy six. Tilman is seven thousand,

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Speaker 2: and Elijah Moore is six sixty four hundred.

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Speaker 3: The thing that at least in the fantasy world. Lately,

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Speaker 3: all those guys are almost eating the entire pie. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's almost like all four of them are

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Speaker 3: equal slices of the pie. You know, they're all getting

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Speaker 3: eight ish targets or more.

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Speaker 2: What the other question is, do you do you pivot

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Speaker 2: to Jerome Ford because he's out there on every third down?

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Speaker 3: I know, I just wonder how much pass blocking he is.

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Speaker 2: Going to do. He might be the dump off option

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Speaker 2: like chip and dump it.

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Speaker 3: To the flat if they're losing the fourth quarter, He's

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Speaker 3: gonna be out there. I mean, Chub Harley played in

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Speaker 3: the second half of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, New Orleans and again he's way. So if you

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Speaker 2: do that, then you can afford whoever you want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In the other spot, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say Pickens is the most expensive item. Yeah, what

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Speaker 3: do we if we have two spots? Right? Yeah, if

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Speaker 3: we put Pickens in, and what does that leave.

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Speaker 2: Us fifty nine hundred, which would be Boswell, Hopkins, Jerome Ford,

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Speaker 2: the Brown's defense with money left over.

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Speaker 3: What if we got crazy okay and put Nause in

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Speaker 3: the captain chair and put the Steelers d man. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I like that. I mean, this seems

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Speaker 3: like we have more money than we need yes, because

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Speaker 3: there's not a ton of options in this game, you know, right,

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Speaker 3: So do we get more expensive in the captain's chair?

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Speaker 3: We could and have less to play within.

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Speaker 2: The If I take the Steelers defense out of the

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Speaker 2: Captain's chair and put them in as a regular play,

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Speaker 2: just flop them and they're only fifty four hundred, that

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Speaker 2: would leave us eighty six hundred to spend in the

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Speaker 2: captain's chair. If we take Nause out of the lineup,

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Speaker 2: then we have ninety two hundred for Nause. Wait, that's

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Speaker 2: his regular price. In the captain's chair, Nause would be

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Speaker 2: thirteen to eight to at least just four thousand, which

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Speaker 2: will be the Browns defense Pat one spot, Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Browns defense Pat Fryarmouth, Mike Williams, Van Jefferson, Darnell Washington,

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Speaker 2: Calvin Austin. We still have money leftover.

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Speaker 3: I think Friar move's my favorite of those. My nose

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Speaker 3: targets are really far down. But I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I like that system better than Steeler d in the

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Speaker 3: Captain's chair because we get pretty expensive with Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could almost if you put George Pickens

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Speaker 2: in the captain's chair, you can still get the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 2: I got the Steelers defense in there. Nause in there

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Speaker 2: would leave us then thirty one hundred, and we could

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Speaker 2: still afford Van Jefferson, Darnell Washington, Calvin Austin. We just

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Speaker 2: miss out on Mike Williams.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm not sure this is the week to

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Speaker 3: buy the most expensive captain chair. Yeah, but I do

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Speaker 3: want Pickings in the lineup, right? Do you prefer nause

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Speaker 3: or the therd in the captain's chair?

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Speaker 2: What about Jalen Warren in the captains.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what that shapes out to be with the.

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Speaker 2: He's ninety three hundred, he's gonna catch passes, he's gonna run.

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Speaker 2: He's had He's had over sixty yards I think in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's consistently put yards from scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their linebackers aren't great and cover and terrible, right,

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Speaker 2: and so we want Pickens, right, and eleven thousand. That

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Speaker 2: leaves us fifty five hundred that would get.

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Speaker 3: Us they get like Elijah Moore, We're.

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Speaker 2: Just sure of that. He's sixty four hundred. We have

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Speaker 2: fifty five.

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Speaker 3: So who what's the best option there?

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Speaker 2: Probably for that's with Jayalen Warren Nause, Harris, George Pickens,

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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston Steelers defense in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: I think I like our build with the Steelers d

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Speaker 3: as the captain.

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Speaker 2: St We're gonna have money leftover. I can live with that.

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Speaker 2: It's all about getting the best. All right, Steelers defense

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Speaker 2: is in there. We got twelve thousand, they have Warren, Harris, Pickens, Winston.

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Speaker 2: At this point we have Harris, Pickens, Winston, Warren, and

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Speaker 2: we have fifty nine hundred remaining, which leaves us to Ford, Boswell, Hopkins, Ford,

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Speaker 2: the Browns defense, Friarmouth, Mike Williams.

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Speaker 3: I think it comes down to Boz or Ford, definitely

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Speaker 3: not Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: If you can get Boz, I think I will go Boswell.

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Speaker 2: I mean Ford, for as much as he's He's averaging

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Speaker 2: eight point eight points per game.

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Speaker 3: Brown's red zone defense is awful.

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Speaker 2: It's awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Boswell's averaged thirteen points per game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think it'll be a low bos game

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Speaker 3: because I think the Steelers will punch it in better

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Speaker 3: than they have.

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Speaker 2: So if he and in the game against last week,

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Speaker 2: Ford had seven point nine fantasy points. He cut four

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Speaker 2: passes for twenty nine yards. He had five carries for

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Speaker 2: ten yards. That's not He's not very good. It's not

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Speaker 2: super exciting, right, he would almost have to catch the

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Speaker 2: four or five passes again to make that worth it.

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Speaker 2: If Boswell kicks one field goal and kicks three extra points.

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Speaker 3: He'll do that. Yeah, Okay, I just didn't want to

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Speaker 3: be so Steeler heavy forty.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't either. But if they win twenty four

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Speaker 2: to ten, yeah, and the right guys score.

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Speaker 3: We have Winston, So I mean he's the one that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the right Brown to have. I definitely feel confident about that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean Bo's is pretty safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this might be a little chalky. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's not that many options.

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Speaker 2: There just aren't nine hundred dollars left over. But the

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Speaker 2: only other option to do with this is to start

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Speaker 2: guessing which Brown's wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: We can definitely swing it. That gets you in Djoku

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this could be a five catches for

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Speaker 2: Still, I don't mind Joku and till We Actually we

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Speaker 3: Probably any two we want. Yeah, I still think Tilman's

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Speaker 2: and still have enough for Elijah Moore. I think there's

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Speaker 2: that doesn't he didn't. Yeah, throw three touchdowns already. But

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Speaker 2: We still have twenty three hundred dollars left.

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Speaker 2: We don't have enough money to do that. We could

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Speaker 3: But then with the other two guys.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the right man. He was a nice

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Speaker 2: Warren back in. We have ninety three hundred that would

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Speaker 2: get us chubbed. Pickens is eleven thousand. That doesn't do it.

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Speaker 2: So if we go more sixty four hundred. That gets

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Speaker 3: Does this bring us back to the conversation of we

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Speaker 3: want to change the people? With Winston in the captain's chair,

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Speaker 3: he's way too expensive. Okay, he's extremely expensive to do that,

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Speaker 3: and then we lived on Elijah Moore's and Warren's and

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Speaker 2: We can try it, but I mean Winston is, uh,

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Speaker 2: where's the add on here? I gotta take him off

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Speaker 2: that's that's his regular price. This is gonna work. Winston

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Speaker 3: Okay. Can we put two guys I have to have?

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Speaker 3: Are Steelers d in nausey?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Steelers D's in there? Nause is in there?

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Speaker 3: What can we get out of Warren?

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Speaker 2: Let me see here, Warren is in there? Rounds receivers.

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Speaker 2: I thought Friarmouth was too cheap. If you want to

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Speaker 2: Ford Boz if we went Friarmouth, that gets us a

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Speaker 2: let and two, and we could get Pickens in the lineup.

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Speaker 2: But that would be Winston in the captain's chair Nausea Harris,

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Speaker 3: Right, so we kind of cover all bases.

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Speaker 2: Unless Winston gets hurt. Right, then we lose because I

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Speaker 3: Who were the five we have?

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Speaker 2: Nausea Harris, Steelers defense Pat Fryarmouth, Jalen Warren, George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: All right. My last suggestion, if we pulled friar Muth

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Speaker 2: We can actually get them both. Yeah, we can get

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Speaker 2: Djoku and Tilman.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: And have two hundred dollars left over.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's the least we've had leftovers.

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Speaker 2: I think I think we had that with the last

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So am I right? The Winston and the Captain's chair, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Warren, Yes, I like it. Okay, So that's Jamis Winston

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Speaker 2: at ninety two hundred. Steelers defense at fifty four hundred,

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Speaker 2: David and Joku at seventy six hundred, Jalen Warren at

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Speaker 3: So with our luck in DFS, that means Herbig's gonna

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Speaker 2: Then all right, I'm entering it. It's locked in again.

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Speaker 2: These are match lineups. These are not necessarily my lineups,

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Speaker 2: I'm just paying for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, buy your beer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, that's our DFS lineup for this standalone game.

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Speaker 3: That's not an easy puzzle there.

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Speaker 2: They never are, and they don't we love doing it either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But because the captains share is a lot of weight, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, and you got to get the right guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good build. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's screams Winston to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But are they going to score enough touchdowns?

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Speaker 3: To right?

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Speaker 2: That's the key.

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Speaker 3: But if he throws for three fifty in one touch.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's not turned for three fifty.

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Speaker 2: It as long as you don't throw three picks and fumble.

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Speaker 3: For their negatives on these two yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: And it could be okay. Yeah, but I yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: That works. That's our fantasy football focus for today. We're

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Speaker 2: Audio networking. We briefly touched on it before we had

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Speaker 2: Bob on a little bit with Bob as well Miles

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Speaker 2: Garrett poking TJ Watt with the stick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of heard it indirectly somebody the way

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Speaker 2: Last I think it was more, you know, did TJ?

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Speaker 2: The year Watt won it, I think he's full of crap.

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Speaker 3: So of course there's been a lot of what Garrett stuff,

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Speaker 2: It was it was a career Achievement award. Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Good defense, on a good defense. That's more competitive team

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you.

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Speaker 3: Watching as nobody gets doubled way more than TJ Watt. No,

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Speaker 2: It was fourteen. They had Alex Highsmith being double team

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Speaker 3: Ax is wonderful, but his path to the quarterback is

442
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 3: easier than Watts. Yes, and everyone on the planet will

443
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: scheme that way. But they did the same with the Browns.

444
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: They didn't consider it a double team if it wasn't

445
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: two offensive linemen getting hands on the guy.

446
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: Which is ludicrous, ridiculous because especially because what usually wins

447
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: almost always wins to the outside shoulder of the tackle.

448
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he has a diverse.

449
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: His explosion and.

450
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: Ridiculous the same way a lot for all the great

451
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: pass rushers of all time. He wins with the same

452
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: approach as much as any of them, you know what

453
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 3: I mean. And that doesn't mean the one trick pony.

454
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: But he always almost wins to the outside shoulder of

455
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: the right tackle. Yeah. Now, sometimes but pinballing off this

456
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: running back and this tight end and hustling all that stuff.

457
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: But you can't get two offensive line My point is

458
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: two offensive linemen aren't gonna touch. We're gonna get out there, right.

459
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: He might get touched by three human before he touches

460
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: the fourth human being the quarterback. But you're not gonna

461
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: double them with a guard on the outside shoulder of

462
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: the tackle.

463
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not. They don't. They didn't count the chip

464
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: from the tight end and the chip from the running back,

465
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: which allowed the offensive tackle to recover.

466
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: The obstacle course and.

467
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: Get out and get out there and set the final

468
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: wall up.

469
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

470
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't consider that a double team.

471
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: Right, which is ludicrous, which is why we laughed at it.

472
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: When they're like, oh, these guys have been doubled seventeen.

473
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: No they're not. No, they're not.

474
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Yeah, but Brown's fans would argue, well, Miles

475
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: Garrett gets doubled twice as much as t. J. Watt.

476
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

477
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: It's bs.

478
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: This is not true. He stunts more into the inside.

479
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: It's it's easier for two linemen to touch him than

480
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: it is to touch why. Yeah, if that's how you're

481
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: going to judge it, But that's not how you should judge.

482
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: It's not how it should be judged. How many hands

483
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: are on you? Nobody, As I said, then it would

484
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: be criminal if the offensive coordinators of the league were

485
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: only double teaming Watt fourteen percent of the time.

486
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: You'd have thirty seven, as with Garrett any of the

487
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: right and that's why you double team.

488
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: They're all good.

489
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 3: Right. If high Smith gets eighty six percent of his

490
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: snaps alone with a left tackle and no one else

491
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: bumps them, he would have fifteen sacks.

492
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what isn't happening now that used to

493
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: happen back in the day are tight ends. Teams using

494
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: just a tight end to try to block those outside linebackers.

495
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: That used to happen a lot, all right. And the

496
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: Steelers when when the Steelers got an outside linebacker, if

497
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: it was Jason Gilden or if it was Joey.

498
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: Por five man front, they would yeah.

499
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: On out on a tight end. It was over.

500
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: It was over.

501
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: But that doesn't happen anymore. And I'll never leave alone

502
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: on a back No. Like football history.

503
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: That was part of the brilliance of Lawrence Taylor is

504
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 3: they called on my linebacker like people followed me know

505
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: that It bugs me that they called that position an

506
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: outside linebacker. You don't back the line. But it's a

507
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: sneaky parcels thing to say he's a linebacker, he's Jack Ham,

508
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: he's Brooks.

509
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's a line in the coverage.

510
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: He can, but he's a terror off the edge, and

511
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: people were blocking the l team in his rookie year

512
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: with tight ends, you know. And then then uh, Gibbs

513
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: creates this h back situation and puts his back over there,

514
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: like nobody knew how to block him. You know what

515
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: the plan is with Lawrence Taylor because he's standing on

516
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: two feet, he's not a quote defensive end. Should we

517
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: dedicate a tackle to him? You dedicated with everybody to him.

518
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, good idea. You quickly figured that out. But his

519
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: rookie year or two, the league didn't know what to

520
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: do with those guys, No for sure. But even this season,

521
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: like Garrett, he has seven sacks for the season. He

522
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: had three in one game.

523
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hasn't had a great year.

524
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: No, he had, he had three and one game. He

525
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: had a great year.

526
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: But he has not had to blow your doors off

527
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: defensive MVP.

528
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: He has a game with one another game with one

529
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: assist in a game with no stats whatsoever. They must

530
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: have given him assist after the fact because it wasn't

531
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: on the original play sheet. I went back and looked,

532
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm like I I mean I watched a game. It

533
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 2: was it was a game against the Ravens. I'm like,

534
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: he out there and I look at the stats and

535
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: he had no tackles, no sacks, nothing, And then I

536
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: go back and look, now I'm looking at this and

537
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: they credit them with it with an assist.

538
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: Anyways, but back to the interview earlier in the week,

539
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: what did did he say something? What was the why

540
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: is he poking the bear? Like? That's what I don't

541
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 3: quite remember.

542
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: So after what was in Vegas for the awards ceremony,

543
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: But he didn't go to the awards ceremony because he

544
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: knew he wasn't going to win, and he tweeted out

545
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: but he was a finalist. All he did was Yeah,

546
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: all he did was tweet out nothing I'm not used to.

547
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: And of course Miles Garrett, being the slappy that he is,

548
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: took that as an affront and said that tj owes

549
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: him an apology. No, he didn't say nothing to me. Well,

550
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: first of all, he hadn't seen you yet. You guys

551
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: haven't played. Secondly, he says he's got to apologize me

552
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: when I see him. Really, what's you have to apologize for?

553
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: No, I don't understand the logic behind that.

554
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: I think Miles Garrett is a slappy I do. I

555
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: think he's I think he's kind of slappy.

556
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: I don't like his personality.

557
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't like it, you know, the whole basketball thing.

558
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: And he's an odd dude. You don't have to be flashy.

559
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: Put up the numbers and then, you know, that's the

560
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: one thing that you can appreciate about t J. Watt.

561
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Yes he'll celebrate a sack, Yes he'll get excited about strip,

562
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: but he's never disrespectful grind Stone.

563
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you're straight late.

564
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miles is.

565
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: You don't need to say that, say there's nothing.

566
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: To begin, take the high road. You won the award.

567
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Watt didn't say Garrett stinks. No, I mean that's

568
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: not what he tweeted or anything like that.

569
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: Right, what led to league in sacks for the third

570
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: time and at that point in fourth time, fourth time,

571
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: fourth he's the only guy since sacks became in history league, Right,

572
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: since sacks became an actual statistic in nineteen eighty two,

573
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: he's the only got to lead the league in four

574
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: times in sacks. Yeah, and he didn't and he's only

575
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: one defensive Player of the Year once, like he's gotten

576
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: jobbed a couple of times. Actually, trying to think who

577
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: won it the other years that he twenty nineteen, he

578
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: probably it was.

579
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: One, he won one of them.

580
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other two Donald Donald. I think Donald won one.

581
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: The cornerback Gilmore year, Gilmour year.

582
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: I didn't. I forget there was a couple strong but

583
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: not obvious candidates that year. I kind of felt like

584
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Gilmour wanted by the fault that was Wats.

585
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: Like that was like Wat's coming out year. That was

586
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: his first year. He led the league in sacks. Sacks

587
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: were down that year. Remember voting was legal, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

588
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: but the Steelers had a really good defense. Again, this

589
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: is twenty nineteen. They won games with their defense.

590
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Gilmore was not the best defensive player on

591
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: the planet that year. Now, it was a good corner.

592
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's the best corner league at that point.

593
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he was a good corner. I that didn't

594
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: settle with me either. I'm not sure I would have

595
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: voted for what that year. I don't remember, but I

596
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: would not voted for Gilmore.

597
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what definitely should have won it last year.

598
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I think so too.

599
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: And for Garrett to sit there and say, what owes

600
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: him an apology? Yeah, take your apology and stick it

601
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: you know where. Yeah, So I TJ Watt in this

602
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: game every time I get a sack, and I think

603
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: there will be multiple ones. Yeah, but every time I

604
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: get a sack, I'm doing my celebration and looking at

605
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: the sideline. There's your apology out kick kids direction. Yeah,

606
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: take that for an apology.

607
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: So where's what on the sack leaders now for the season.

608
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: I know he's not super high. Hendrickson's number one.

609
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hendrickson's number one. Hendrickson is not going to win

610
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Defensive Play of the Year.

611
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: No, he's not, definitely not.

612
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm just wondering, just can't do that?

613
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 3: Can Tj get to another sack title?

614
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: It's he's not out of the right. He's got seven

615
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: and a half right now.

616
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: So about an hour ago, I think the Steelers are

617
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: going to have a dozen sacks the next two weeks. Yeah,

618
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: that might be low.

619
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Henderson has eleven and a half right now. Okay, But

620
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: to your point, so the leaders are right up to

621
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: the top. He's right now, Watt is tied for seventh.

622
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Okay, I knew there's quite a few between them.

623
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: You've got Hendrickson with eleven and a half. You've got

624
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence with nine, but he's been stuck on nine.

625
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: He's not gonna that's not He's not gonna He might

626
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: finish with like ten or eleven.

627
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: He might demand a trade.

628
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: They're just not He's not gonna have any situations to

629
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: sack the quarterback the rest of the year. As great

630
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: as he is, it won't be him. Nick Benito, really

631
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: good player. Denver has nine.

632
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: He's not gonna win sack.

633
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: Dante Fowler has eight and a half.

634
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: He's not a sack title type player.

635
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: No. Andrew Van Ginkel with Minnesota has eight. Okay McDonald

636
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: has eight.

637
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: Part time player on a team that's falling apart two.

638
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: Danielle Hunter has seven and a half.

639
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: He would worry me.

640
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: He's already played eleven games though, by yeah, they haven't

641
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: had their buy yet. Watt has seven and a half.

642
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: Who's nipping on their heels. Who's at six and a

643
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: half or more?

644
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Well Eighten Hutchinson still have seven and a half. That's

645
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Trayvon Walker, that's not gonna happen.

646
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: These are a lot of on bad team guys.

647
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Anderson's got seven and a half.

648
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: He needs come back this week. Yeah, him and Hunter

649
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: our feet off each other.

650
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: Cal van Noi has seven, Miles Garrett has seven, Frankie

651
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: Luvu has seven, Jonathan Greenard has seven. Pat Jones from

652
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: Minnesota has seven. Patrick Jones, that's what the pick kid.

653
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa has seven, Oway has seven. Two two Tupolo

654
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: two has seven.

655
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: So you named like twenty guys that are they are

656
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: the top twenty give or take sac leaders as we speak.

657
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: I think there's like four names that can win it.

658
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: I'm here the Henrickson can because he's got a lead. Hunter.

659
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: You can't give it to Hendrickson on an awful defense.

660
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not talking about player of the year. I'm

661
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: he's got the lead and he's really good. But they

662
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: are seasons in jeopardy. I mean, bad teams aren't gonna

663
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: get a lot of sacks. I think both Houston guys

664
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: have a chance. They might cancel each other out, though

665
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: more likely of the two. I think Watt has a chance.

666
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: I think Hendrickson has a chance. I could still write

667
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: a story that Garrett gets a ton of sacks half

668
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: the way. But I also write a story that his

669
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: foot's a mess and they shut him down in week twelve.

670
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

671
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: Other than I mean, it's not gonna Benito, It's not

672
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: gonna be I'm just going a sack leader. I like

673
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: Wat's chances. I know that the way teams play make

674
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: it really tough on him, and his impact has been

675
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: felt more than the sacks. But these Browns and Bengals games,

676
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: Let's say gets two in this game, I think. Let's

677
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: say he gets Let's say he gets three into two

678
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: games against the Browns. Well, now he's at ten and

679
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: a half. Let's say he gets gets five in the

680
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: next two weeks.

681
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: Let's say gets two or three more against Bengals, which

682
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: is certainly possible.

683
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: Horrible tackles and live an eleven personnel and they want

684
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: to throw the football chippers. Yeah, I mean you may

685
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: get another one. Yeah, I don't think it's the people

686
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: in front of him. Aren't that difficult?

687
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: He also gets Kansas City with Juwan Taylor.

688
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's Vane Johnson's a problem. That's

689
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: a problem. Baltimore is not a good sack team just

690
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: because the way you play them, but those are Ohio teams.

691
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: You get eight between those four games. Now you're back

692
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: in there. You're not that far from twenty. All of

693
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: a sudden.

694
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: The thing that he is doing really well this year.

695
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: He's second in the league, one behind Van Ginkel with

696
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: tackles for a loss with twelve.

697
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: I think he's the best run defending edge player in

698
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, including true four to three end types

699
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: that are bigger than him. Yeah.

700
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got three pass defenses. He's got four forced fumbles, which.

701
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: Obosa's the other name I thought could win it. But

702
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: his hip is a disaster right now. He plays like

703
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: two plays gets off the field.

704
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the four force fumble still leads the league.

705
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: He's one of the best ever at that.

706
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna get some opportunities to get some more.

707
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: You know, so if he starts hitting the quarterback more often,

709
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: which is gonna happen here, and.

710
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: I say it's setting up pretty well for a sack run.

711
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: So high Smith jury back and which helps you know, So.

713
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: Keep talking, Miles, keep poking the bear.

714
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: Miles has nothing to lose or win by all of it.

715
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's on a terrible team. Stuck in purgatory forever.

716
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: He really is. No one's feeling bad for him. But man,

717
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: what what would the Lions have given up for Miles

718
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: Garrett at the trade deadline? Take whatever you want, Yeah,

719
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: Browns might have been better off for it. Give me

720
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: three first.

721
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett this year has twenty three tackles in ten games.

722
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: He's averaging listened two and a half tackles per game.

723
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: I hate that stat, but that's still unbelievably low.

724
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's uh yeah, he just up and not

725
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: being very He's impactful again. Yeah, he's impactful when he's

726
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: on the field because you have to account for him.

727
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: But they just don't have anybody else.

728
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: No, they don't. And there's just some of these got

729
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: some of these teams, like Lawrence is gonna be the

730
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: same way as the Giants, Like you're throwing the vido

731
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: out there and you know, he's a shot. I mean,

732
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to thrive, it really is. How many

733
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: leads are gonna play with with you, the Giants or

734
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: Browns the rest of the year, you know. Yeah, for Salisa,

735
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: Bengals might or at least be in games or throw Yeah.

736
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see if t. J. Watt makes him

737
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: eat some of his words this weekend.

738
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: I like him. His chances are to uh challenge for

739
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: the sack leaders here, though in a couple.

740
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Of weeks it's not it's not been extended. I mean

741
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Henderson is averaging basically a sack per game, which is

742
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: what he did last year.

743
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had seventeen last year. But you know, yeah,

744
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: I would vegas odds. I'd still put Hendricks in his

745
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: best chance to be sack leader. He's got the lead, yeah,

746
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 3: and he's really good. So let's get to another break.

747
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

748
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

749
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: When we come back, Matt and I'll make our game

750
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: picks for tomorrow's matchup against the Cleveland Browns. I think

751
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 3: I know where we both might be leaning here, but

752
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 3: we'll see.

753
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Right after this.

754
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

755
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

756
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

757
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

758
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the

759
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network and it is time Matt to make

760
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: our game picks for Steelers versus Browns that will take

761
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: place tomorrow on Thursday eight fifteen up in Cleveland, and

762
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: I made the first pick last week.

763
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: You're up.

764
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers will win and this will shock people.

765
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if it's gonna be low scoring,

766
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: grinded out, run, run, run. I don't care how we

767
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: score six ' nine type of game or is it

768
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: gonna be thirty to nothing type of game? Just because

769
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: you're better. The weather, to me's makes me think that

770
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: the Steelers aren't gonna put up thirty you know, and

771
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 3: they might, I don't think they'll have to. I picked

772
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: the game twenty three ten Steelers. I get the feeling

773
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: that the second half won't be competitive.

774
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm just looking at this. Actually, I was

775
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: thinking twenty three to ten was in my mind.

776
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel great about my score, but I feel

777
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: good about the winner and covering all.

778
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers score three touchdowns in this game, Okay,

779
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: and I think they win, let's say twenty four thirteen. Okay,

780
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a comfortable win. That

781
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: the Steelers are favored by three and a half four

782
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: points when it seems low to me. Yeah, and you know,

783
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: if you look at some of the other spreads, what

784
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: the overunder is, it's it's low. It's like thirty five. Yeah.

785
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: I thought coming out of the gate there were some

786
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: other games like Baltimore's favored by the same amount in

787
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: LA against the Chargers, like.

788
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: M okay, yeah, that that seems like a much differ test. Yeah.

789
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: I think if we think the Ravens and Steelers are equal,

790
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: play that game.

791
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they just.

792
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: Played, but they're both good.

793
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

794
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 3: Going to LA is a much different test and going

795
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: to Cleveland.

796
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though the only thing I figured was a

797
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: short week maybe was getting factored into that. Yeah, that

798
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But I thought it was kind of like,

799
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of disrespectful to the Steelers that they're only

800
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: favored by It opened it like three and a half,

801
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: it then went to four, and now I think it's

802
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: back to three and a half.

803
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure vague. I don't know a lot about betting,

804
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: but I'm sure Vegas treats Thursday night games differently.

805
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: A little bit, and maybe the weathers has held that

806
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: down a little bit. But I just think the Steelers

807
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: are are the better football team, and I can't get

808
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: past that in like every area, in every area, there's

809
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: no area in this game where you would look at

810
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: it and say, you know, the Ravens or the Browns

811
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: are clearly better.

812
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: There's two things I think that scare me, other than

813
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: your whole starting defensive line gets hurt or you know, yeah,

814
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: eight turnovers or something bonkers, you know, Boswell, can't you know,

815
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: can't kick between the uprights anymore? Or something crazy? Could

816
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: Winston really get super hot and throw for over three

817
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: hundred yards?

818
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: Maybe?

819
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: Could Garrett cause you massive problems?

820
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: Maybe?

821
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: I mean they're like the only like matchup.

822
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: I don't think he will though, because I just they

823
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: are not going to let him do that, right, you know,

824
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: that's just they've never have I.

825
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: Know, I mean again, and I think the Steelers pass

826
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: defense and pass rush won't let the if the former

827
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: one happened either, right, you know, like like you're gonna

828
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: He's just not gonna in the Browns win is the

829
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: only is what I keep racking my brain here is

830
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: Garrett has four sacks and it's the most disruptive.

831
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Player in twelve career games against the Steelers. He has

832
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: nine sacks.

833
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna put Darnold Washington all over.

834
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna get double teamed constantly. Yeah, and you're just

835
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: gonna not not allow him to take the game over.

836
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: Is he gonna get to the quarterback on occasion? Sure?

837
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.

838
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: Is he gonna get hits?

839
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Just the makeup of the team. The Steelers are

840
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: way better set up to help on Garrett than the

841
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: Browns are.

842
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: And what I just I think the Arthur Smith factor

843
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: is huge in this one.

844
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna come I mean, if they come

845
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: out in double tights, Revin Jordan and the joke who

846
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: aren't blocking her big no chance.

847
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: But the Steelers guys, they all can't. They all can

848
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: do that, right.

849
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: Their backs are better in protection. Washington's a tackle. They'll

850
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: throw a six offensive lineman out there at times. Pru

851
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: It's not a joke as a blocker, you know. I mean,

852
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 3: they'll fine Hayward up in the backfield as a full back.

853
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: You know, like if he's the whole problem the second half,

854
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to go through like six dudes.

855
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: They're just gonna build a you know, all the way

856
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: down and damn Moore's actually done an incredible job against

857
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: him over the course.

858
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about this, but I would put Garrett

859
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: on Jones's side more often, especially on passing down Yeah,

860
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: without question, and challenge him as a pass protector even then.

861
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Jones has played better the last couple of weeks, and.

862
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: I still like the chance of Jones and Washington blocking him.

863
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so Jones got He got called for

864
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: two penalties on the same drive last week against the Ravens.

865
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: The first one, I don't think they called the right

866
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: guy because I saw a replay. I saw a replay

867
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: of the play and I'm watching him what he did.

868
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything that would have even closely resembled

869
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: a hold on the play.

870
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: Really, I don't remember that in real time.

871
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: But the second one that he got called for, he

872
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: took his guy who was trying to go to his

873
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: left to hit the guy the defender was trying to

874
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: go to his right, and he drove him into the

875
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: ground to his right. He didn't hold him, He didn't

876
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: pull him. He did he just buried him, and they

877
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: called that a hold.

878
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: He had a few of those. Yeah. Pressure brought this

879
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: up earlier in the week, but short week. I think

880
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: since the bye, these have been his best two games.

881
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

882
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: And Protection still.

883
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: There were people though that on the comments section, you

884
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: know Dan Moore is he you know, what are they

885
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: going to do with Dan? Or with Broderick Jones. I'm like,

886
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: he's actually played really well. But people heard the two

887
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: penalties last week and automatically dinged him for it. I

888
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think either one were warranted.

889
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: I have to look at him, I believe you. I mean,

890
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: but I thought in the run game he was a

891
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: plus player for sure, both those games, and I think

892
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: Protection still needs work. But to be frank, I mean

893
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 3: before the bye, he blocked the wrong guy. He wouldn't

894
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: snap counts would be bad, like I think getting away

895
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 3: and like being okay, you know, let's Rea said better

896
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: than this. Yeah, set, I think it has helped him

897
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: a lot.

898
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: And I thought Mike Tomlan Mike Tomlan again, Tomlin was

899
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: asked about him this week. You're worried about Brody Jones

900
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: because of the two penalties. Again, what are you watching?

901
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: People?

902
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: You don't just corner yeah one, don't just listen to

903
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: Oh he had two penalties and say he had a

904
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: he had a bad game. That's not the case. But secondly,

905
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: Tomlin said, look, you gotta understand he's younger than Zach

906
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: Fraser and Mason McCormick.

907
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

908
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's twenty three years old.

909
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: He's a boss. Yea, right, he's a puppy.

910
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: He should still be in college.

911
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And it's the nature of the business too.

912
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: If you're a tackle or a corner, ninety six percent

913
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: of your plays could be great. Yeah. But the fans

914
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: were like, remember that touchdown he let up?

915
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Joey Porter j he's having a bad year.

916
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: All of his penalties came in two games.

917
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: He was awesome in his past game too. Yeah.

918
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: All of his penalties came in two games. He has

919
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: ten ten penalties on the year, Nine of them have

920
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: come in two games. Two six of them came in

921
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: one game. With Clete Blakeman's crew working, I forgot to

922
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: even look to see who's working this game tomorrow night.

923
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I didn't.

924
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: I had no idea, and that that's usually again short week.

925
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: I just didn't didn't have time to.

926
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: Uh. I mean, all of my stat packs are paid

927
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: shorter than it usually is, right, And you know, it's

928
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 3: just one of those things. It's just like you gotta

929
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: cram it in.

930
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: People expect this stuff too for me.

931
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we should get over it.

932
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Uh So it is Brad Allen's crew. I think that

933
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: we had Brad Allen's crew recently.

934
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Sounds familiar.

935
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I'm trying to think. I think he's

936
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: done a Steelers game recently.

937
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: Already said, I think we had to talk over the

938
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: last four weeks or so about him, But I don't

939
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: remember it being egregious one way or another.

940
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he's one of the high penalty guys. Yeah,

941
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: go ahead and take a look here. But yeah, I

942
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: mean you're gonna have games like that that just doesn't

943
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: go your way. Yeah, Brad Allen's crew is actually one

944
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: of the better. They only call eleven penalty eleven penalties

945
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: per game, which is the league average is twelve point

946
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: seventy three, So they're below average on that. And if

947
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: you're looking at what they like to call, let's see

948
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: what Steeler game did they do here, Brad Alan Bright Allen. No,

949
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: they haven't. They must have done a standalone game that

950
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: I was talking about because they haven't done a Steeler

951
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: game yet this year. So yeah, so they're Their most

952
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: called penalty most often is false start twenty seven of those,

953
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to call that. Seventeen holding penalties, so

954
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: one point seven per game. You can live with that.

955
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: H twelve defensive pass interference penalty, so one point two

956
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: per game, seven roughing the passers. So they that's a

957
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: little probably higher than most.

958
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: So okay, well it doesn't sound like that shouldn't affect

959
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: the clean game. It shouldn't be littered with flags.

960
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: And the Browns are the more penalized team.

961
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're right top of the league. Yeah, they're not

962
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: as bad as Ravens, but they're real close. They're not bad,

963
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: They're not far off. Yeah, r So keep that in

964
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: mind as well. I mean, once again, special teams, turnovers, penalties.

965
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: The margins all favor the Steelers. Offensively favors the Steelers,

966
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: defensively favors the Steelers. Is to your point, special teams

967
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: favors the Steelers. Coach, coaching favors the Steelers quarterback. There,

968
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: they should win. They should win. Absolutely, can't put it

969
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: any more simple than that.

970
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: I just keep going back the short week on the rest.

971
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: Short week is the only thing that throws it into

972
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: the U the mixer a little bit, absolutely kind of

973
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: levels of playing field. But other than that, I mean

974
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers have an advantage no matter how you look

975
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: at this game.

976
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: Don't mean the jinks it. But we get back here

977
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: on Friday and you're nine and two, feeling pretty good,

978
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: pretty strong.

979
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: I will say this to about this particular team. I

980
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: wanted to bring us something we were talking to Bob.

981
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: I see a maturity level with this team because of

982
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: the leadership.

983
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 3: I say, I think Wilson helps.

984
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: Wilson helps that.

985
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: I've been so young on offense the last couple of years.

986
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's the kind of the voice in

987
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: that on that side of the ball now, and I

988
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: think everybody accepts him as the leader.

989
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

990
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: Example, he took the defensive captains out. He already takes

991
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: the offense out every Thursday night. Last Wednesday, the whole

992
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: offense and pays for everything. It picks up the check

993
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: that'll get you some uh.

994
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: Bottle of wine, you know.

995
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: But on Wednesday of last week, going into a game

996
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: against the Ravens, he took all the captains out to dinner. Yeah,

997
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: so what you know Hayward uh killer brew Yeah, and

998
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: himself and they just went out and they and they talked,

999
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: just kind of having a pulse of the team kind.

1000
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: Of thing, which is a good pre Ravens thing to do,

1001
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1002
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean Mike Tomlin has been more prominent in the

1003
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: locker room of late, just kind of walking through and

1004
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, getting a feel for the I just feel

1005
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: I feel maturity in this team.

1006
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem like they're in a good spot, a

1007
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: good blend of youth and Wilson Hayward types too.

1008
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and even like guys like what and

1009
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: make a Fitzpatrick who was you know, some more of

1010
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: your leaders Friarmoth. These guys are starting to grow into

1011
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: being that.

1012
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1013
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been through a lot of these battles and

1014
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: so they have a better understanding of They're not the

1015
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: wide eyed first or second year guys anymore, like, Wow,

1016
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: I didn't expect that. No, They've been through so many

1017
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: of these battles now they know what to expect in

1018
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: these games.

1019
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: It seems to me too that the rookies, especially Fraser,

1020
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: aren't goose.

1021
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean, Peyton is a serious dude. McCormick's a

1022
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: serious dude.

1023
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: They're not laughing and joking and nothing off and you know,

1024
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: playing grab ass. Yeah right, these guys are They're here

1025
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: for business and team you know and businesses. I mean

1026
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: I talked to Fraser after the game last week. I said,

1027
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: did you have a Welcome to the to the Rivalry moment?

1028
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: He's like, first of all, he's like, that was fun.

1029
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 3: I can't I can't wait again. Yeah, that was really fun.

1030
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: Get I said you did you have that welcome to

1031
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: the Rivalry moment? He goes, oh, yeah, it was well,

1032
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: you know, me and Humphrey went at it, you know,

1033
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: like like I can't wait to do that again. Yeah,

1034
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: we get to play again. Great forward.

1035
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, taking taking part in something like that, yeah, I'll

1036
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: sign me up for that.

1037
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. So and that goes back to Omar in the

1038
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: front office and going your homework on guys.

1039
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: So it should be fun. Yeah, we'll be back on

1040
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: Friday to talk about it. But that's going to do

1041
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

1042
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here running the Justin Miller hotline and

1043
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 2: making sure we stay on the air, and for Tyler

1044
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: Viittmeyer making sure our video gets out there on YouTube.

1045
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,480
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1046
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: easy on Matt.

1047
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: Please all you want, but don't. Yeah, you're right for

1048
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 3: ESPN for ten years. You think your skinning gets real

1049
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: thick from the whole mash, I'm Dale, Lolly.

1050
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,640
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