Speaker 1: The Love Against the World tour was everything for me.
Speaker 2: I literally woke up this morning so emotional just thinking
Speaker 2: about every single stop, every single team member.
Speaker 3: What a ride.
Speaker 1: Dead Ass.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Kadeen and I'm Devoued and we're the Ellis's.
Speaker 1: You may know us from posting funny videos with our.
Speaker 3: Voice and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.
Speaker 1: Wait, I make you need therapy most days. Wow.
Speaker 3: Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married, Yes.
Speaker 1: Sir, we are.
Speaker 4: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of
Speaker 4: li's most taboo topics.
Speaker 3: Things most folks don't want to talk about.
Speaker 4: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass
Speaker 4: is a term that we say every day. So when
Speaker 4: we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred
Speaker 4: the truth, the whole truth.
Speaker 1: And nothing but the truth. We about to take philosof
Speaker 1: to our whole new level.
Speaker 3: Dead Ass starts right now.
Speaker 1: Storytime.
Speaker 3: So what's the story? Fine time for tour? Like there's
Speaker 3: so many stories.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the story.
Speaker 4: A matter of fact, I'm gonna take y'all back to
Speaker 4: November November twenty twenty three, Kadeena and I had saw
Speaker 4: Beyonce four times together, and finally we went to go
Speaker 4: see Usher's second to last last show, third to last
Speaker 4: show in Vegas and we're sitting in the crowd and
Speaker 4: there's music playing, there's people getting on the stage, and
Speaker 4: then Usher comes out and I was so inspired by
Speaker 4: watching him perform that. Midway through his first set, I
Speaker 4: got up out of my seat, ran to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Facetom Brian Jordan Jr. He was sleep I said, yo, BJ.
Speaker 1: He was like, yep, yep, yep. So everything right. I
Speaker 1: was like no, He's like, what's up. What's up? Mind you?
Speaker 4: We're on West Coast time, so this was like ten
Speaker 4: thirty West Coast time, so it was one thirty East
Speaker 4: Coast time, and he's like, yeah, yeah, what's up? And
Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, I want to do the Vusher
Speaker 4: to open up my show. Kay's gonna do kan say,
Speaker 4: I need you to choreograph and I need you to
Speaker 4: creative direct the whole show. Yep.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, whatever, you can, I call you in
Speaker 1: the morning. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you'll call me in
Speaker 1: the morning. Hang up the phone, go back in the show,
Speaker 1: and me and Kay watched the whole.
Speaker 2: Show and he literally said, I just called Brian, He's
Speaker 2: going to creative direct our show and we're going to do.
Speaker 3: I was like, what are we gonna?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What here?
Speaker 3: I Am just trying to.
Speaker 1: Take in the show now.
Speaker 4: It was the funny thing to me was the inspiration
Speaker 4: of watching Greatness the entire year because we had watched
Speaker 4: Beyonce so many times, and then when watching Usher, I said,
Speaker 4: this is going to be what I want our last
Speaker 4: tour to be. I want to be able to give
Speaker 4: people this type of experience, the Beyonce experience and the
Speaker 4: Usher experience so exactly way and when we get back
Speaker 4: from storytime, that was a quick story, but I want
Speaker 4: I want to discuss with the people how we curated
Speaker 4: the show, why the show was the way it was,
Speaker 4: and what we intended.
Speaker 1: To deliver with the show.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was in that quick moment I came
Speaker 4: up with the idea for the show. Kadeen, as she
Speaker 4: always does, say Okay, baby, how we.
Speaker 2: Going to and y'all got kay and Drussia that's a
Speaker 2: fact six.
Speaker 3: Times karaoke time.
Speaker 2: When you asked what I wanted to do for karaoke today,
Speaker 2: this just instantly popped into my mind, not only is
Speaker 2: it from my favorite movie, but it just was so fitting.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Patrick Swayze, rest in peace, Rest and peace.
Speaker 3: I've had the time of my life and before Yes,
Speaker 3: I swear and literally we owe it all you guys.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I mean so many people there who listen to the
Speaker 2: podcast every single Wednesday, being able to see you guys
Speaker 2: in person, the beautiful pace faces, people dressed to the nines.
Speaker 2: You guys did all that to support us, and we
Speaker 2: are so so incredibly grateful.
Speaker 1: We appreciate ya, and we love y'all so much. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much.
Speaker 3: The time of our lives we really did.
Speaker 2: This was a fun This was like our best tour
Speaker 2: yet and it's all because of you.
Speaker 3: All right, So we're back story time.
Speaker 2: We talked about Deval literally leaving the Usher experience to
Speaker 2: call Brian and say, Brian, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: And that's literally how things work with us, y'all. Like
Speaker 2: Devo will tap me in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: because he can't sleep and his mind is racing and
Speaker 2: he has an idea, and then I'm usually just like,
Speaker 2: all right, babe, so what you need me to do?
Speaker 3: How do we how are we gonna get it done.
Speaker 2: So when you mentioned that, I will say now, I
Speaker 2: didn't say it at first, but I will say that
Speaker 2: initially I was apprehensive Kaan say Davusher thing. I was
Speaker 2: not sold on it because it could be gimmicky, you know.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be a thing where people thought like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're just coming along to just like, you.
Speaker 3: Know, do a spoof.
Speaker 2: But then it could be corny, like the approach had
Speaker 2: to be right for us to do it, and it
Speaker 2: makes sense for us. So that was my only apprehension
Speaker 2: in the beginning. But I didn't want to shoot your
Speaker 2: idea down because usually nine times out of ten, Devell
Speaker 2: has an idea and it strikes gold. So I said,
Speaker 2: let me just sit tight and see what this is
Speaker 2: going to look like and give you the opportunity, along
Speaker 2: with Brian, to really think about how we can make
Speaker 2: this for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the funny thing is when I first told you
Speaker 4: about it, I remember coming back into the concert, yes,
Speaker 4: and you was in there.
Speaker 1: You was just like, where'd you go? I was like,
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with Brian, Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: just serious.
Speaker 4: What happened? I said, not not my brother, Brian. Brian
Speaker 4: joined Junior and he's like, oh, I see, okay, I see.
Speaker 4: I was telling him I wanted him to direct Dvusher
Speaker 4: and Chaon Say and you say what what?
Speaker 3: I was like, what he's like where you come from?
Speaker 1: You said, what are you talking about? I got an
Speaker 1: idea because I.
Speaker 2: Did initially say to you after seeing him produce The
Speaker 2: Whiz here in Atlanta. U. Yes, I said, if we
Speaker 2: had to bring someone on board to creative direct the
Speaker 2: show from start to finish, he would be the perfect
Speaker 2: person for that. Like his strength is in theater and
Speaker 2: performance and live shows, like that's what he does. So
Speaker 2: I wasn't completely opposed to it, but it was the
Speaker 2: whole devuser Kaan Say thing that I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how this is going to go.
Speaker 4: Over see I to me, it was this, I always
Speaker 4: want to elevate the show. So we do a tour
Speaker 4: every year, and from year to year we've always found
Speaker 4: a different element to add to the show. So I
Speaker 4: was like, what element can we add to the show
Speaker 4: this year that's going to allow for people to say, Wow,
Speaker 4: the Ellises are always giving us more.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I also just.
Speaker 4: Wanted us to be challenged coming off of last year,
Speaker 4: you had just finished walking on the wrong way. I
Speaker 4: watched you lose twenty pounds. We got on that journey
Speaker 4: together because everything we do we do at the same time.
Speaker 4: You went to the doctor, found out what you were
Speaker 4: allergic to change your diet, cut out dairy, cut out
Speaker 4: red meat, and I said, I was going to do
Speaker 4: it with you.
Speaker 1: I noticed that my body was starting to change.
Speaker 4: I was inspired watching Beyonce be in her forties and
Speaker 4: do everything she did. Then I watched Usher get on
Speaker 4: skates and being his forty and dance and sing, and
Speaker 4: it just made me feel like, you know what, as performers,
Speaker 4: I don't want to put us in a box.
Speaker 1: As we tell stories and we tell.
Speaker 2: Jokes, right like, how can we push ourselves yes to
Speaker 2: do something that we didn't think that we could do.
Speaker 2: I mean, granted, with the whole Beyonce Usher thing, I.
Speaker 3: Just didn't expect like full on choreography.
Speaker 1: I know you didn't either, you.
Speaker 4: Know so, But that's Brian Jordan Junior's genius because he
Speaker 4: said to me, he said, Devala, if you're gonna do this,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need you to do it.
Speaker 3: No, for sure.
Speaker 2: That was the first conversation we had with him, because
Speaker 2: he's very serious about this too. He did not take
Speaker 2: this as a joke. He say, if I'm going to
Speaker 2: be attaching my name to this, it has to make
Speaker 2: sense for all of us.
Speaker 4: And I appreciate shout out to Brian Jordan Junior because
Speaker 4: super professional we met. Of course, as everyone knows through sisters,
Speaker 4: he's become a family friend, he's become a brother. But
Speaker 4: when it comes to this work in his craft, he
Speaker 4: cut no corners. Yeah, none. He went out and interviewed
Speaker 4: and auditioned dancers and it was a long four week
Speaker 4: process going back and forth sending us film, you know,
Speaker 4: showing us the choreography. He added the lights, he added
Speaker 4: the music, he put together the video. Like after watching
Speaker 4: The Wiz, I knew he was going to do a
Speaker 4: good product. But when he said to me, you can't
Speaker 4: take this as a joke, he said, everything you do
Speaker 4: de vou is comedic when it comes to dead ass podcast,
Speaker 4: but this part can't be a joke. Yeah, And he said,
Speaker 4: the only way it's going to come off good enough
Speaker 4: for people to respect it is if you respect the
Speaker 4: art behind it.
Speaker 2: And that meant putting in the work man, That meant
Speaker 2: actually physically dancing, and like I said to everyone, I
Speaker 2: have not used my dancer side of the brain in
Speaker 2: twenty one years. Like I used to dance competitively as
Speaker 2: a kid, yes, up until I met you. And then
Speaker 2: Deval just had me himed up in a dorm.
Speaker 1: Room and now she love for me.
Speaker 2: A baby. But the classically trained dancer in me had
Speaker 2: not made an appearance in twenty one years. So the
Speaker 2: idea of me having to dust off my dance shoes,
Speaker 2: you know, so to speak and dance and heels, I can.
Speaker 4: I also cut you off for a minute and tell
Speaker 4: you how proud I am of you, because I remember
Speaker 4: when my cousin Wayne, his wife is a dancer, Yes
Speaker 4: she had a baby, and I was talking to him
Speaker 4: about how is his wife doing, you know, after having
Speaker 4: a baby getting back to dance, and he said it
Speaker 4: was tough because when you have a child, your body changes,
Speaker 4: your hips spread, your ligaments become more lubricated, and your
Speaker 4: muscles changing. Your your body is not the same way
Speaker 4: as it was before. So for me to watch you
Speaker 4: go from being a classically trained dancer in ballet you
Speaker 4: did tap, then having four kids twenty years later to
Speaker 4: get back to that. I was inspired because I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: like you really took the time to go back in
Speaker 4: the crates twenty years to get that that instrument back out.
Speaker 1: So I want to shout out to you because that's
Speaker 1: not easy.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 4: I've been an athlete my whole life. I still trained
Speaker 4: like an athlete. I never had to have kids. I
Speaker 4: still lift weights and jump, So for me doing those,
Speaker 4: some of those things were different because I never trained,
Speaker 4: but my body has never gone through that type of trauma.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to shout you out for that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, babe, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it made me believe in muscle memory
Speaker 2: to an extent because I'm just like, okay, people say
Speaker 2: that it's still there, if it's if it's been there,
Speaker 2: And even when it came down to the sun, you.
Speaker 1: Got the fucking split in like three weeks.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it myself.
Speaker 2: And that just tells you the power of the mind
Speaker 2: and the power of working. Like putting your mind to
Speaker 2: something and just physically doing the work, you're going to
Speaker 2: get the result. Because I never thought that I'd be
Speaker 2: able to do it split again. But I remember Brian
Speaker 2: saying to me and Kayla, one of the answers, if
Speaker 2: you did it before, you can do it again, And
Speaker 2: they just showed me the different stretches to do different
Speaker 2: exercises that I wanted. I was on YouTube. I found
Speaker 2: a woman who had results for people. In the comments
Speaker 2: were like, I gotta split in nine days. I got
Speaker 2: a split in fourteen days. And I would do my
Speaker 2: workouts and then I would stretch after. And let me
Speaker 2: tell you how much just the dancing, the stretching and
Speaker 2: being consistent with that and working out has helped my
Speaker 2: back problems. I've talked about going to the chiropractor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've seen the Patreon episode about the chiropractor. My back
Speaker 2: issues have now also been alleviated. So it just made
Speaker 2: me believe more like Kadin, once you start this stuff,
Speaker 2: now keep going because your body needs that. Your body
Speaker 2: has been accustomed to it. You just stopped and you
Speaker 2: had mag kids.
Speaker 4: I will also add to that too, changing your diet.
Speaker 4: When you found out that you shouldn't be eating dairy,
Speaker 4: there were certain grains you couldn't eat.
Speaker 1: You can meat.
Speaker 4: The inflammation in your body walk We as humans often
Speaker 4: walk around bloated for no reason because we just eat
Speaker 4: what they said we're supposed to eat.
Speaker 1: You know, you want muscles eat protein.
Speaker 4: So I was constantly consuming eggs, chicken, and beef, and
Speaker 4: I used to walk around blot it all the time.
Speaker 4: You used to say this, as much as you work out,
Speaker 4: why has always seemed like your stomach's protruder? And I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have a lot of body fat
Speaker 4: around my midsection, but I just always feel bloated when
Speaker 4: I cut those things out, and I watched my body
Speaker 4: just shrink it. Liter is his imflammation in my knee. Yeah,
Speaker 4: remember I had a knee injury of August.
Speaker 3: She forgot about your knee.
Speaker 4: I went from I went from not being able to
Speaker 4: jog on the treadmill to doing backflips multiple times a day.
Speaker 2: In choreography, first of all, let me give you your flowers, okay,
Speaker 2: because Devell is not a classically trained dancer. Malcolm move
Speaker 2: though he got some rhythm like he's done his little
Speaker 2: mj routines over the years and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: He battled Neo at his wedding Like Devall has done
Speaker 2: a lot of things when it.
Speaker 3: Comes to dancing.
Speaker 2: He's been pop locking and brooking up for years. But
Speaker 2: the choreography that Brian put together for the guys specifically,
Speaker 2: like the girls, we had choreography, but a lot of
Speaker 2: it was also just like giving personality, but you had
Speaker 2: actual choreography that was like on the Double count.
Speaker 1: I almost had struggle watching it, trying.
Speaker 2: To learn it, learn it, but baby diligent, Like I'd
Speaker 2: be in the kitchen cooking randomly. It'd be like one
Speaker 2: in the morning, We're like making snacks or whatever.
Speaker 3: And Deval was literally like, that's.
Speaker 2: To the point where I even know the choreography now,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And he even asked the dancers.
Speaker 2: He was like, man, like, I can't move my arms
Speaker 2: as fluid as y'all do. And that's when they were like, Bro,
Speaker 2: you gotta stop pumping all that iron real quick and
Speaker 2: just stretch and really be able to elongate and show
Speaker 2: those lines. And you really were putting in the work.
Speaker 2: You were pulling me to rehearse. I was pulling you
Speaker 2: to rehearse. We were doing individual rehearsals. I told shere,
Speaker 2: whatever show, you're gonna have me dancing, and girl, get
Speaker 2: me to shoot so I could practice ahead of time.
Speaker 2: Like we really committed to it. And I'm proud of
Speaker 2: us for doing that. I'm so proud of us.
Speaker 1: Proud of us. I'm proud of our whole team.
Speaker 3: Like, we don't even get me started on the team.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna cry because watch that video.
Speaker 4: We're we're gonna post a video on Patreon, the Crew
Speaker 4: Love video, Yes, that we decided to come up with.
Speaker 4: K came up with the idea for the song, and
Speaker 4: Josh curated the video and put together all the clips.
Speaker 4: Matt captured the footage, Like, our whole team came together
Speaker 4: to create an experience not only for the folks watching,
Speaker 4: but also for our crew to understand that they're respected,
Speaker 4: they're loved and wet out to everyone, but but to
Speaker 4: take back to like why the show was created and
Speaker 4: for us, love against the world was an obvious answer
Speaker 4: because Kadeen and I just feel like you can solve
Speaker 4: any problem with love. And we live in a time
Speaker 4: now where social media has consumed so much of people's identity,
Speaker 4: so much of who we feel we are, that we
Speaker 4: lose sight of the fact that there's an outside world.
Speaker 2: That exists in a real world, that it speaks. So
Speaker 2: much of social media is so false and so negative
Speaker 2: and so pretentious.
Speaker 4: The negative negativity and pretentio everyone that it's hard to
Speaker 4: understand that there is love that still exists in the world.
Speaker 4: So for us, this tour was about sharing and spreading
Speaker 4: love to everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a tangible way, right because we do it
Speaker 2: through social media. We do it through the podcast like
Speaker 2: you guys listen, you watch Patreon. But it's something about
Speaker 2: being collectively in that space. It starts with our team
Speaker 2: getting together. We feed off of each other. Everyone is
Speaker 2: inspired by each other, like we literally have gotten some
Speaker 2: of the masters in their respective feels together to collaborate
Speaker 2: with us to find ways to elevate this show. And
Speaker 2: that was a purposeful move for us this time around,
Speaker 2: to make sure that everybody was bringing a piece of
Speaker 2: the puzzle to make it what it was. And I
Speaker 2: think that that was the greatest gift that we had
Speaker 2: while we when we curated this show, was really making
Speaker 2: sure that we had our team pulling together their resources
Speaker 2: and their talents and their abilities to really make this
Speaker 2: a family, a family produced show that we can bring
Speaker 2: to you guys in person and being in the room
Speaker 2: and feeling your energy, like that's what we wanted.
Speaker 4: And we wanted to give you guys an experience that
Speaker 4: I feel like for the past three years we haven't
Speaker 4: really gotten because of the pandemic and in quarantine.
Speaker 1: It feel like live shows weren't a thing for like
Speaker 1: the last three years.
Speaker 4: So for me, it was like Yo, I went to
Speaker 4: Beyonce and I walked out of Beyonce feeling excited about
Speaker 4: attending a live show. And we went to go see
Speaker 4: Llo Coolj. Then we went to go see Drake. Then
Speaker 4: we want to go see Usher, And I said, I
Speaker 4: want to provide an experience for people. If people are
Speaker 4: going to give us two to three hours of their time,
Speaker 4: I want to put on a show for three hours
Speaker 4: that people can walk out feeling like that was just great.
Speaker 4: It was just love, because that's how I felt when
Speaker 4: I walked out of Usher, when I walked out of
Speaker 4: Beyonce in particular, those two in particular, I felt like
Speaker 4: the energy in the room was like high vibrational.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It was about love. It was about let's enjoy the
Speaker 4: time together. Hip Hop is a little different. Hip hop
Speaker 4: is very very competitive. So when I watched LL, it
Speaker 4: put me in a different mindset. But that mindset I
Speaker 4: Oweso put on this show because ll is one of
Speaker 4: the greatest live performers I've seen, absolutely MC with a mic,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, not a lot of
Speaker 4: mcs can get on a stage and rap and command
Speaker 4: an entire all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was nostalgic for us to write because
Speaker 2: I mean, we grew up listening to so many of
Speaker 2: his greatest hits.
Speaker 3: That was perfect.
Speaker 4: That's what I work out to, so you know them
Speaker 4: three in particular allowed me to come up with a
Speaker 4: concept that I wanted to see come to fruition. And
Speaker 4: then I sat down with Josh, I sat down with Brian.
Speaker 4: We curated a run of show, and we made it
Speaker 4: make sense because when I added Brian to the show,
Speaker 4: Brian had saw the show every single time we did it.
Speaker 3: He always supported and came out to the shows.
Speaker 1: Came out.
Speaker 4: But Josh is who I sit down with to curate
Speaker 4: the show and create the run of show. So I
Speaker 4: had to sit down and Josh figure out what's the
Speaker 4: run time? What pieces can we put in between two
Speaker 4: because I also realized if we're going to do a
Speaker 4: full seven minute dance set, we're gonna need some time
Speaker 4: for wig changes, wardrobe changes, and then we included the
Speaker 4: documentary and I'm not going to say that we stole,
Speaker 4: but we definitely paid homage to Beyonce in the fact
Speaker 4: that she put little bits of a documentary in the change.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely to keep people entertained an engage while
Speaker 2: you had to do that. I think the beauty in
Speaker 2: what we're doing with the live podcast arena is that
Speaker 2: they're really contrary to like performers like Beyonce, Usher or
Speaker 2: Ll there's kind of like a blueprint of what people
Speaker 2: are looking for when they come to these shows. Right,
Speaker 2: you're expecting to be entertained, You're going to hear some
Speaker 2: of your favorite songs, you may hear some new stuff,
Speaker 2: Like there's a vibe that already has been built into
Speaker 2: that circuit.
Speaker 3: But for us, as live.
Speaker 2: Podcasts performers or having a live podcast show, there really
Speaker 2: is no blueprints for us in terms of what people
Speaker 2: are coming to expect. So so many times people who
Speaker 2: haven't been to a previous show. We've heard even in
Speaker 2: the meet and greet, some guys come with their girl
Speaker 2: for the first time, the don't really know us, and
Speaker 2: they're like, man, I didn't really know what to expect
Speaker 2: it for a live podcast show. But this was dope,
Speaker 2: Like this was a whole experience. It felt like a
Speaker 2: variety show. Yes, I saw some persons and I have
Speaker 2: a concert at a live podcast. They were like, I
Speaker 2: don't really know what I'm attending, but I attended it
Speaker 2: and I had the best time. You know. So we
Speaker 2: are really just trying to find ways to make sure
Speaker 2: that we're reinventing ourselves, giving people a different experience each
Speaker 2: time you hear us talk so much, so we just
Speaker 2: you know, like the podcast you hear us talk, for
Speaker 2: us to sit on stage for ninety minutes to talk again,
Speaker 2: it's cool, but no, we want you guys to be like, man,
Speaker 2: I had a time. So I love that we're able
Speaker 2: to curate this show with Josh and with Brian and
Speaker 2: with Matt and with our team DJ executive to also
Speaker 2: you know, telling us his feedback because you know, he's
Speaker 2: able to come in and see the audience and he's
Speaker 2: the first encounter the audience has.
Speaker 3: You know that we brought mouth on.
Speaker 2: So there were just so many different components that I
Speaker 2: felt like made the show what it was.
Speaker 4: We had a dead ass court, you know, trouble, and
Speaker 4: that came from because we always do an after show
Speaker 4: for the podcast and the Yes. The after show has
Speaker 4: become like a fan favorite because we actually have to
Speaker 4: have We get to have discussions and Trible and I
Speaker 4: often debate in the after show and it's become funny,
Speaker 4: but it's actually real, like real information because I learned
Speaker 4: a lot about different perspectives of life when I hear
Speaker 4: from Trouble or when Josh added a little something one
Speaker 4: day and you was like you, I never thought about that,
Speaker 4: and you talk to me all the time, but you
Speaker 4: heard from a different husband. So dead Ass Court became
Speaker 4: a thing because it was like, what if we did
Speaker 4: the after show live?
Speaker 1: You know, like what if we did that? Literally what
Speaker 1: it is, That's what it became.
Speaker 3: That's how it became. We had two amazing moments.
Speaker 2: One was at the Apollo Yes and the other at
Speaker 2: Atlanta Stop. You know, we'll talk more about that when
Speaker 2: we recap our favorite, but yeah, it just it just
Speaker 2: really inspired me to feel like wow, like there there
Speaker 2: are no limits to what this live podcast show is
Speaker 2: going to be in looking for us, so we're not
Speaker 2: mirroring it in anybody else's image. We're literally just trying
Speaker 2: to give people what we feel you guys want. So
Speaker 2: we're hoping that we're you know, hitting the nail on
Speaker 2: the head those of you who came and not for nothing.
Speaker 4: We are podcasters, that's one thing that we do. True,
Speaker 4: we're also thespians. We've also trained true excuse me, many
Speaker 4: art of oratory for years. You got your master's degree
Speaker 4: in uh speech, communication and performance. You're a classically trained dancer.
Speaker 4: There's so many parts of you that people don't get
Speaker 4: a chance to see when you put on a show
Speaker 4: for people, show all your talents, but so many people
Speaker 4: don't know that Trouble is a stand up.
Speaker 1: Now you get a chance to watch it beforehand.
Speaker 4: Dead ass Court get to do her stand up when
Speaker 4: she's meeting people on the meet and greet, like all
Speaker 4: of our friends have so many different times that this
Speaker 4: is just an opportunity created by us for us to
Speaker 4: showcase to everyone what we can do, and hopefully not
Speaker 4: only for just Cadeen and I, but for our entire team.
Speaker 4: They get to go do so many more things because
Speaker 4: they've done this right.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: For example, they can be producers or executives watching our
Speaker 4: podcasts and say who did the wig changes? How did
Speaker 4: they get Kadeen from a Beyonce bump to a bob
Speaker 4: in ten minutes, and now Janelle is out there somewhere
Speaker 4: doing big time movie, which is gonna.
Speaker 2: Be hope for everybody, Like the buck doesn't stop here
Speaker 2: within the Dead Ass podcast community or the deval in Kadeen,
Speaker 2: the Ellis's realm, Like we root for our team hard.
Speaker 2: We want them to go out and soar. I mean,
Speaker 2: still be available when I call your ass. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: not get ahead of ourselves, but no, we want this
Speaker 2: to open doors for them and make them feel like, wow,
Speaker 2: I'm empowered to do whatever I want. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: Kadeen and devalag on back y'all one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: percent every step of the way. But that's a good
Speaker 2: point that you may, babe, Like, there's so many layers
Speaker 2: to so many people in our team. Like I even
Speaker 2: think about myself. So many people who watch, for example,
Speaker 2: the YouTube blogs or who have been following us for
Speaker 2: the past seven years have really only seen me having babies, yes,
Speaker 2: you know, pregnant, getting back after another baby.
Speaker 3: I'm doing all the.
Speaker 2: The mom content and the wife content, but not even
Speaker 2: realizing like there's.
Speaker 1: You are a whole performer in your other side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all the other sides of Kadeen that people
Speaker 2: have not even seen yet.
Speaker 3: And that was something I'm purposeful about.
Speaker 2: Even when I turn forty, I'm like, now I'm excited
Speaker 2: to see what the rest of my life can look like,
Speaker 2: now that I'm getting back into my comfort zone of
Speaker 2: what I love to do, and that's perform, Like I
Speaker 2: come alive on stage, and I think it's it's part
Speaker 2: me just loving that space and being able to perform
Speaker 2: live and in person with people, but also feeding off
Speaker 2: the energy of the crowd, like that gives me the
Speaker 2: fuel that I need in those spaces.
Speaker 4: Your pageant girl came out when you got on stage
Speaker 4: because I watched you go from mom relaxed, chill, devour
Speaker 4: wife and then when they call you out there, it's
Speaker 4: like boom.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I watch, I watched you elongate, I watch your posture change,
Speaker 4: I watch the way you face the crowd, and I say,
Speaker 4: for years, like for years you trained to be on
Speaker 4: stage and to present to people. Yeah, you deserve to
Speaker 4: showcase that. And here's and here's what it reminded me of.
Speaker 4: In the nineties, I watched the show created by a
Speaker 4: man who put his whole family on and his friends.
Speaker 1: The show was called in Living Color.
Speaker 4: It was a variety show. They had dancers. One of
Speaker 4: those dancers went on to become one of the greatest
Speaker 4: entertainers we know. Her name is j Lo, Tommy Davis
Speaker 4: and Jim Carrey, Jamie Fox. Oh my god, Like the
Speaker 4: list can go on and on all of the Waynes
Speaker 4: that's charl Wayne's, Marlon Wayne's. But it started with a
Speaker 4: little variety show that no one paid any attention to.
Speaker 4: And it was supposed to be the black version Saturday
Speaker 4: Night Live. And it ran for I think seven to
Speaker 4: nine seasons and it kind of went away. But then
Speaker 4: we watched all of the people from that show just flourish.
Speaker 4: That's when I came up with the concept for this tour,
Speaker 4: and you agreed to do it with me.
Speaker 1: That's what I foresaw.
Speaker 4: I said, people are gonna watch you do these costume
Speaker 4: changes and watch me, and they're going to say, who
Speaker 4: designed this for them?
Speaker 1: Oh, that was Shari?
Speaker 4: Can we get her for this? People are going to
Speaker 4: watch two creative directed this. I was Brian Jordan Jr.
Speaker 4: You think we can get him for this?
Speaker 2: You know when you look at the footage after who
Speaker 2: edited this? You know what I'm saying, Josh, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you from from this tour. And this is
Speaker 4: why it's hard for me to say it's the last
Speaker 4: I want to look at the camera and already tell
Speaker 4: y'all that it's it's a decision that you know, it's
Speaker 4: just a decision that's tough for us to make. But
Speaker 4: we we have so many other things, including being parents
Speaker 4: that we have to focus on because we have not
Speaker 4: been as involved in our children's life over the last
Speaker 4: three months because we've been preparing so much and that's hard,
Speaker 4: that's extremely difficult. So we we we're still thinking, thinking,
Speaker 4: but as of right now, I can I can see
Speaker 4: this as being like, hey, it's a good way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went out.
Speaker 2: Like we said in the in the first caption that
Speaker 2: you posted, like you know, see the Elyssies go out
Speaker 2: with the bang, and I was like, is this really it?
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, there's just like like we said, there's
Speaker 2: so many layers to the Ellisis. There's so many layers
Speaker 2: to Devo as an individual, Kadeen as an individual, so
Speaker 2: many more things that we want to do and we're
Speaker 2: just hoping that the live shows, you know, once the
Speaker 2: footage is released or whoever attended the show can just
Speaker 2: see like, man, I didn't realize that Kadeen could do that,
Speaker 2: or damn, I see a Deval do a stand up,
Speaker 2: like he's not a stand up, but he is like
Speaker 2: a stand up. You know, there's just so many different
Speaker 2: avenues that we can take. So we receive that, you know,
Speaker 2: we're open to it, and again, in God's timing, when
Speaker 2: those opportunities present themselves, then we can make those decisions.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what's next, y'all. There's a lot
Speaker 2: to consider. But I have to give you your flowers again
Speaker 2: and say you were right with this one. You were
Speaker 2: right with this one. We committed to it. Like Brian said,
Speaker 2: it's not going to be gimmicky and funny and goofy.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you're gonna dance, y'all asses off, open
Speaker 2: the show up, and then we're gonna roll into giving
Speaker 2: people the real dead ass experience.
Speaker 3: And I think we achieved that. I love it. I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 2: I love it all right, So we're gonna go ahead
Speaker 2: and we're gonna pay some more bills because Baby, A
Speaker 2: tour is expensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, expensive.
Speaker 2: I love my team, but ship the invoice is rolling
Speaker 2: in now at the end of the tour. That might
Speaker 2: be another reason why I was a little emotional this morning, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. So yeah, let me go pay these
Speaker 2: bills real quick, and so we compare our people and
Speaker 2: then we'll be back with some listening letters.
Speaker 3: So stick around, y'all.
Speaker 4: All right, y'all be back, and you know we're back
Speaker 4: with Kadeen's favorite time to get in everybody.
Speaker 3: Ways baby, between listening letters and dead ass court. Yell baby,
Speaker 3: but they need.
Speaker 2: To give me some stronger plaintives because this prosecuting attorney
Speaker 2: over here, they didn't be making it real hard for me.
Speaker 1: And these get out last one in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, they make it real young, like.
Speaker 1: She's The funny thing is babies.
Speaker 4: When we asked when we have young couples and they
Speaker 4: come up on stage, they never really have a lot
Speaker 4: to say. And I think about how we were at
Speaker 4: that age, and we wouldn't have a lot to say either.
Speaker 1: Five talk about.
Speaker 2: Relationship being on a stage in front of eighteen hundred
Speaker 2: people judging you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's pretty difficult. It's pretty different.
Speaker 2: So so shout out to everybody who participated at Dead
Speaker 2: Ass Podcast court at the live shows.
Speaker 3: No Easy feat.
Speaker 2: All right, let's jump into listener letters. Dear to Valencadein
Speaker 2: Hey family, like you guys, Like you guys are really
Speaker 2: my family. I love that I've been following you guys
Speaker 2: since those Brooklyn apartment days when it was just you
Speaker 2: and Jackson.
Speaker 3: We love that. We actually just Jackson came to gave me.
Speaker 2: A big hug today and he was like, Mom, like
Speaker 2: we're doing like all these things like we started in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: Like even Jackson sees it and I love it. He
Speaker 2: can remember that, you know, he remembers those days. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about those YouTube days. Now you all are
Speaker 2: parents to four whole boys, beautiful black boys. To see
Speaker 2: where you all started and to see where you are
Speaker 2: and you're going God is amazing. Indeed, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for that. I really don't have any advice. I
Speaker 2: just want to give you your flowers.
Speaker 3: Oh emotional, I can't deal.
Speaker 2: I always believe in giving people the flowers they deserve.
Speaker 3: You guys are amazing.
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that we see you,
Speaker 2: we hear you, and that I'm always here to support
Speaker 2: anything that you do, from the.
Speaker 3: Live shows to the live book tour.
Speaker 2: I've been to every show that came through DC and
Speaker 2: have taken something new from each one. I love that,
Speaker 2: we love that you have takeaways every time I have
Speaker 2: read your book I believe three times now, and I've
Speaker 2: taken some different, something different from it each time. Wow,
Speaker 2: I really you really do something with that book, or
Speaker 2: you really did something with that book. Thank you, I
Speaker 2: thank you and I appreciate you guys so much.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 2: Continue to be the beacon that beacon and continue to
Speaker 2: inspire us all. I love you, I see you love
Speaker 2: Kim from Merlin, Kim from Merlin.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. Kim.
Speaker 2: You know to hear that you've read the book several
Speaker 2: times and you've taken something different away from me each time.
Speaker 2: It is really beautiful. While we were on the Meet
Speaker 2: and Greek line, I think it was in Atlanta, it
Speaker 2: might have been last night. Actually everything's a blur, but
Speaker 2: someone brought their book for me to sign and literally
Speaker 2: in the cover, did you see it?
Speaker 3: She had like.
Speaker 2: Copious amounts of notes that she took from the book.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because Daval and I sometimes feel like, man,
Speaker 2: are we saying the same things over and over again
Speaker 2: but in different ways?
Speaker 3: Like are people going to receive it? We're tired of
Speaker 3: hearing it.
Speaker 2: We don't know if y'all are tired of hearing it,
Speaker 2: but we continue to share because there's people who are
Speaker 2: still being introduced to us, who can experience us in
Speaker 2: a new way. Or like you said, you read the
Speaker 2: book three different times and you pull something different from it.
Speaker 2: I've had people come on that meet and greet line
Speaker 2: and whisper to me, you guys literally saved my marriage,
Speaker 2: or you help me communicate with my husband in a
Speaker 2: way I never.
Speaker 3: Was able to do before.
Speaker 2: So the fact that we're here literally doing God's work,
Speaker 2: it makes me feel so good to be walking in
Speaker 2: my purpose because I never knew what that purpose was,
Speaker 2: and I was trying to figure out what it was
Speaker 2: for so long.
Speaker 3: But this is definitely it.
Speaker 2: So thank you that gives me, at least personally, the
Speaker 2: drive to want to continue.
Speaker 3: Y'all be making it hard for me to want to
Speaker 3: walk away from this mic.
Speaker 4: Okay, I like when you want it, you feel me.
Speaker 2: But thank you for that love note Kim Merlin, we
Speaker 2: appreciate you and we love you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you. It's nice to have the flowers presented.
Speaker 1: Listener letter number two, Hey to Valon Kadeen.
Speaker 4: Let me start off by saying, your live show this
Speaker 4: year in Dallas was so much fun.
Speaker 1: I had such a good time.
Speaker 4: I was front row and enjoyed the Vush's moonwalk, beonce Split,
Speaker 4: the hilarious dead ass court, and your vulnerability during Q
Speaker 4: and A. Then to hug and give you, Then to
Speaker 4: hug and give love to you both in person at
Speaker 4: the meet and greet with such a blessing. Thank you
Speaker 4: for all that you do. Will always support the ILLNESSUS
Speaker 4: and I'm Patreon fam. So I'm about to be thirty
Speaker 4: in August ninety four. Baby, My village is very proud
Speaker 4: of the woman I'm becoming, and I never want to
Speaker 4: disappoint them. However, I want to live a life that
Speaker 4: makes me happy, regardless of anyone's opinion. As you all
Speaker 4: are entering your forties, what advice would you give your
Speaker 4: twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Year old self entering your thirties?
Speaker 4: What would you do different or keep the same, And
Speaker 4: how do you balance making your village proud but also
Speaker 4: living authentic to yourself?
Speaker 1: Love you all, that's.
Speaker 3: A really good one. That's a really good one.
Speaker 1: It's easy for me if they are village.
Speaker 4: Your village is going to be proud of whatever you
Speaker 4: do as long as you're happy, as long as you're
Speaker 4: not a detriment to yourself or anyone else. If you
Speaker 4: really truly have a village, they are going to be
Speaker 4: in alignment with whatever makes you happy. If they're not
Speaker 4: as supportive, what makes you happy, Ask yourself if they
Speaker 4: really your true village, because they may not be.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: My twenty nine year old self worried so much about
Speaker 2: what everybody else thought village included, because I think there
Speaker 2: was a fear for me of thinking, like, man, my
Speaker 2: parents have invested so much in me over the years
Speaker 2: that I don't want to disappoint them. But I had
Speaker 2: to also realize that this is also my life right,
Speaker 2: and though I don't want to disappoint them, I had
Speaker 2: to kind of go out on a limb sometimes and
Speaker 2: do things that might have been against what they thought
Speaker 2: was in my best interest at the time. But my
Speaker 2: gut was telling me this was the right move, or
Speaker 2: God was like Gurkadine, this is the right time. So
Speaker 2: now in my forties, in retrospect, I wish I cared
Speaker 2: a lot less about what people thought. What I wouldn't
Speaker 2: change is the desire to continue to make my village proud,
Speaker 2: because everything that's a val and I do, we do
Speaker 2: aim to make our families proud, and we want them
Speaker 2: to feel like man like Devala Kadeen or Kadeen. Rather
Speaker 2: when it comes to my family, she's really just out
Speaker 2: here living in her purpose. She's doing the things that
Speaker 2: she wants to do. She's not a detriment to herself
Speaker 2: or to society. She's being the best wife and mom
Speaker 2: that she could be. So I would have told myself
Speaker 2: earlier on to just man, forget the noise, forget what
Speaker 2: everybody else thinks, and just do what your gut is
Speaker 2: telling you to do. Go in the path that God
Speaker 2: is leading you. And that's what's gotten me here today.
Speaker 2: So you're true to yourself.
Speaker 4: You added some valuable points there that I think I
Speaker 4: might have missed when you said that trying to make
Speaker 4: your village proud. I think that is a valuable point
Speaker 4: because your village when you're young pours into you. So
Speaker 4: a lot of times we try to make our village
Speaker 4: proud when we don't realize that we are making our
Speaker 4: village proud by just being who they created the foundation for.
Speaker 1: Us to be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we put too much pressure on ourselves and we say, well,
Speaker 4: my village would want me to do this, so let
Speaker 4: me do this, as opposed to asking myself, am I
Speaker 4: projecting some things that I want to do on my village.
Speaker 1: And saying I'm only doing this because.
Speaker 3: Of my village.
Speaker 2: That's also a surefire way to be upset yourself, you know,
Speaker 2: to be unhappy, to be unhappy, you're right. Even thinking
Speaker 2: back to me, for example, given having the conversation with
Speaker 2: my parents that I'm going to move to Michigan to
Speaker 2: be with you when you were a part of the Lions,
Speaker 2: graduated from grad school, you know, I said I'm going
Speaker 2: to live in Detroit with Deval because he needs me
Speaker 2: there for support. And my mother was like, what, Like,
Speaker 2: how am I going to tell your grandmother and your
Speaker 2: aunts and your uncles that You're moving to go live
Speaker 2: with a man in Detroit. But in that moment, I
Speaker 2: knew what Deval needed. This was my partner, my best friend.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he needs me to be there to support
Speaker 2: him through what's a huge, major life changing moment for
Speaker 2: him and could potentially be for us if we did
Speaker 2: continue to stay together and get engaged and married. So
Speaker 2: why not if I could and had the ability and
Speaker 2: the resources to stay with him so that way he
Speaker 2: can be his best self in that moment, why would
Speaker 2: I not? So imagine if I didn't come to Michigan
Speaker 2: to stay with you, you know, and you were able
Speaker 2: to perform to the best of your ability because you
Speaker 2: were just homesick, or you were missing me, or we
Speaker 2: were trying to deal with this since you know, that
Speaker 2: was a moment where I just had to go with
Speaker 2: my gut and say, hey, I'm going to be with
Speaker 2: my mand But.
Speaker 4: That also comes to show like God gives us all
Speaker 4: each our own individual vision.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: There is no one vision that God has for everyone
Speaker 4: and we all see the same vision. That's just not
Speaker 4: the case, right. God speaks to us all differently. We
Speaker 4: all have our own relationship with God, absolutely, and sometimes
Speaker 4: it takes time for your village to see the vision that.
Speaker 1: God gave you.
Speaker 4: As long as you're moving in alignment with God, and
Speaker 4: you're moving in alignment with what you truly want to
Speaker 4: do with yourself, your village will be fine. They may
Speaker 4: not see it right here, because I said this at
Speaker 4: this podcast. God will give you foresight, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. God will get foresight, but sometimes the people
Speaker 4: around you have insight. Those who have insight don't see
Speaker 4: the foresight.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If God has given you foresight to see what's best
Speaker 4: for you, don't ignore that foresight because the people giving
Speaker 4: you insight is your village, so you have to learn
Speaker 4: how to balance it and always know that time over time,
Speaker 4: history is are your best friend. They may not see
Speaker 4: it right now, but if you know you're doing the
Speaker 4: right thing, just keep pushing forward.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, like you said, if they're really your village, even
Speaker 2: if your foresight might have fell a little short, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be there for you regardless, absolutely regardless, and if not,
Speaker 2: get you a new village.
Speaker 3: All right, y'all.
Speaker 2: If you want to be featured as a future listener
Speaker 2: letter here on Dead Ass Podcast, be sure to email
Speaker 2: us at Deadass Advice at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: That's d E A D A S S A d
Speaker 4: V I C E at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: Moment of Truth time we're talking about the Love Against
Speaker 2: the World tour, how we creatively came up with this tour,
Speaker 2: what this show looked like from inception to stage. And
Speaker 2: my moment of truth is I'm still listening to Devo
Speaker 2: and his plans because they usually, like I said, nine
Speaker 2: point eight times out of ten, they hit. But no,
Speaker 2: I think the overarching moment of truth for me is
Speaker 2: just really believing in myself and knowing that whatever it
Speaker 2: is that I put my mind too, I can do.
Speaker 3: Even at forty years old.
Speaker 2: That's not something that you tell children, you know, as
Speaker 2: they're growing up in grade school or elementary school.
Speaker 3: You can be whatever you want to be.
Speaker 2: It sounds so like cliche for kids, but us as
Speaker 2: adults in our twenties and thirties and forties and fifties
Speaker 2: can still if you put your mind to it, and
Speaker 2: you work at it, and you prey on it, and
Speaker 2: you stretch, and you have some icy hot and ben
Speaker 2: gay and ep some salt nearby, you can do it.
Speaker 1: You can't do it, you can. I watch you do it. Baby.
Speaker 2: Your thick ass good need a little bit like a
Speaker 2: rub down soon, Okay.
Speaker 1: I got you. You let me know what you need now.
Speaker 2: Six slits several in between. I'm gonna keep it up
Speaker 2: though listening, I'm gonna take me a dance class. You
Speaker 2: will take me a dance classes too, because I use
Speaker 2: muscles in my body. I forgot existed, and your body's
Speaker 2: changed because even my core. Like we literally did fittings
Speaker 2: with Juria shout out to Jarea our Taylor.
Speaker 3: We did fittings with her in what was it?
Speaker 2: That was early February, end of January, yeah, d of January,
Speaker 2: and she was putting clothes on us at the show
Speaker 2: dud CHERI and thirteenth, I mean in DC. My dress
Speaker 2: was falling off. That was pants ways to loose. They
Speaker 2: were like, wait a second, it's only been like two
Speaker 2: three weeks and y'all are like disappearing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, good times, y'all, good times. What's your moment
Speaker 3: of truth, babe?
Speaker 4: My moment of truth is very simple. It's always love
Speaker 4: against the world. Always, that's it.
Speaker 1: You can create anything with love.
Speaker 4: When you create things, create things thinking about your village
Speaker 4: and your people. How can everybody around you gain from it?
Speaker 4: You know, you can't create anything and be selfish and
Speaker 4: think me, me me. I want to know everybody and
Speaker 4: our crew is a star in their own right, absolutely,
Speaker 4: from here to make up to audio, visual, creative direction,
Speaker 4: the dancers us as talent, everybody's a star. And watching
Speaker 4: what in Living Color was able to do with their
Speaker 4: whole family and then all of those friends, I feel
Speaker 4: like we can do the same thing.
Speaker 1: And my moment of truth is we're about to go
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: This may be the last tour, but this won't be
Speaker 4: the last time you see this crew together doing something.
Speaker 3: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: It's love against the world, but it's also love within
Speaker 2: our world.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I like that. I like that?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 3: Bars te will no, I got the bars.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all be sure to follow us and find
Speaker 2: us on Patreon if you have not yet, shout out
Speaker 2: to our Patreon Ganganggang, You're yellow and I love to
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Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: You'll find the exclusive dead Ass podcast content there as
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Speaker 3: Check out the dead Ass podcast page.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have lots of recaps from the tour as
Speaker 2: well as on my page Kadeen I am and I.
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