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Speaker 1: The Love Against the World tour was everything for me.

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Speaker 2: I literally woke up this morning so emotional just thinking

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Speaker 2: about every single stop, every single team member.

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Speaker 3: What a ride.

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Speaker 1: Dead Ass.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Kadeen and I'm Devoued and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 1: You may know us from posting funny videos with our.

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Speaker 3: Voice and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I make you need therapy most days. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Sir, we are.

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Speaker 4: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of

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Speaker 4: li's most taboo topics.

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Speaker 3: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 4: is a term that we say every day. So when

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Speaker 4: we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred

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Speaker 4: the truth, the whole truth.

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Speaker 1: And nothing but the truth. We about to take philosof

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Speaker 1: to our whole new level.

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Speaker 3: Dead Ass starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Storytime.

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Speaker 3: So what's the story? Fine time for tour? Like there's

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Speaker 3: so many stories.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the story.

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Speaker 4: A matter of fact, I'm gonna take y'all back to

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Speaker 4: November November twenty twenty three, Kadeena and I had saw

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Speaker 4: Beyonce four times together, and finally we went to go

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Speaker 4: see Usher's second to last last show, third to last

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Speaker 4: show in Vegas and we're sitting in the crowd and

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Speaker 4: there's music playing, there's people getting on the stage, and

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Speaker 4: then Usher comes out and I was so inspired by

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Speaker 4: watching him perform that. Midway through his first set, I

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Speaker 4: got up out of my seat, ran to the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Facetom Brian Jordan Jr. He was sleep I said, yo, BJ.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yep, yep, yep. So everything right. I

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Speaker 1: was like no, He's like, what's up. What's up? Mind you?

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Speaker 4: We're on West Coast time, so this was like ten

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Speaker 4: Coast time, and he's like, yeah, yeah, what's up? And

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Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, I want to do the Vusher

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Speaker 4: to open up my show. Kay's gonna do kan say,

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Speaker 4: I need you to choreograph and I need you to

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Speaker 4: creative direct the whole show. Yep.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, whatever, you can, I call you in

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Speaker 1: the morning. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you'll call me in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Hang up the phone, go back in the show,

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Speaker 1: and me and Kay watched the whole.

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Speaker 2: Show and he literally said, I just called Brian, He's

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Speaker 2: going to creative direct our show and we're going to do.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what are we gonna?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What here?

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Speaker 3: I Am just trying to.

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Speaker 1: Take in the show now.

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Speaker 4: It was the funny thing to me was the inspiration

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Speaker 4: of watching Greatness the entire year because we had watched

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Speaker 4: Beyonce so many times, and then when watching Usher, I said,

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Speaker 4: this is going to be what I want our last

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Speaker 4: tour to be. I want to be able to give

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Speaker 4: people this type of experience, the Beyonce experience and the

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Speaker 4: Usher experience so exactly way and when we get back

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Speaker 4: from storytime, that was a quick story, but I want

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Speaker 4: I want to discuss with the people how we curated

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Speaker 1: To deliver with the show.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was in that quick moment I came

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Speaker 4: up with the idea for the show. Kadeen, as she

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Speaker 4: always does, say Okay, baby, how we.

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Speaker 2: Going to and y'all got kay and Drussia that's a

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Speaker 3: Times karaoke time.

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Speaker 2: When you asked what I wanted to do for karaoke today,

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Patrick Swayze, rest in peace, Rest and peace.

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Speaker 3: I've had the time of my life and before Yes,

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Speaker 3: I swear and literally we owe it all you guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean so many people there who listen to the

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Speaker 2: in person, the beautiful pace faces, people dressed to the nines.

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Speaker 2: You guys did all that to support us, and we

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Speaker 1: We appreciate ya, and we love y'all so much. Thank

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Speaker 3: The time of our lives we really did.

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Speaker 2: This was a fun This was like our best tour

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're back story time.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Deval literally leaving the Usher experience to

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Speaker 2: call Brian and say, Brian, this is what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: And that's literally how things work with us, y'all. Like

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Speaker 2: he has an idea, and then I'm usually just like,

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Speaker 2: all right, babe, so what you need me to do?

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Speaker 3: How do we how are we gonna get it done.

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Speaker 2: So when you mentioned that, I will say now, I

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to be a thing where people thought like, oh,

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Speaker 2: But then it could be corny, like the approach had

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Speaker 2: with Brian, to really think about how we can make

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Speaker 4: And the funny thing is when I first told you

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Speaker 1: You was just like, where'd you go? I was like,

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Speaker 4: What happened? I said, not not my brother, Brian. Brian

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Speaker 3: I was like, what he's like where you come from?

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Speaker 1: You said, what are you talking about? I got an

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Speaker 2: Did initially say to you after seeing him produce The

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Speaker 4: Over see I to me, it was this, I always

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Speaker 4: the Ellises are always giving us more.

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Speaker 4: Wanted us to be challenged coming off of last year,

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Speaker 4: I was inspired watching Beyonce be in her forties and

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Speaker 4: it just made me feel like, you know what, as performers,

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Speaker 1: As we tell stories and we tell.

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Speaker 2: Jokes, right like, how can we push ourselves yes to

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Speaker 3: Just didn't expect like full on choreography.

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Speaker 4: Know so, But that's Brian Jordan Junior's genius because he

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Speaker 3: No, for sure.

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Speaker 2: That was the first conversation we had with him, because

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Speaker 4: And I appreciate shout out to Brian Jordan Junior because

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Speaker 4: The Wiz, I knew he was going to do a

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Speaker 4: but this part can't be a joke. Yeah, And he said,

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Speaker 2: And that meant putting in the work man, That meant

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Speaker 2: Deval just had me himed up in a dorm.

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Speaker 2: A baby. But the classically trained dancer in me had

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Speaker 4: I also cut you off for a minute and tell

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Speaker 4: when my cousin Wayne, his wife is a dancer, Yes

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Speaker 4: go from being a classically trained dancer in ballet you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it made me believe in muscle memory

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Speaker 4: It was about love. It was about let's enjoy the

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Speaker 2: So there were just so many different components that I

441
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: felt like made the show what it was.

442
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 4: We had a dead ass court, you know, trouble, and

443
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 4: that came from because we always do an after show

444
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 4: for the podcast and the Yes. The after show has

445
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,919
Speaker 4: become like a fan favorite because we actually have to

446
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 4: have We get to have discussions and Trible and I

447
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 4: often debate in the after show and it's become funny,

448
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 4: but it's actually real, like real information because I learned

449
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 4: a lot about different perspectives of life when I hear

450
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 4: from Trouble or when Josh added a little something one

451
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 4: day and you was like you, I never thought about that,

452
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 4: and you talk to me all the time, but you

453
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 4: heard from a different husband. So dead Ass Court became

454
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 4: a thing because it was like, what if we did

455
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 4: the after show live?

456
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Speaker 1: You know, like what if we did that? Literally what

457
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: it is, That's what it became.

458
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: That's how it became. We had two amazing moments.

459
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: One was at the Apollo Yes and the other at

460
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: Atlanta Stop. You know, we'll talk more about that when

461
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: we recap our favorite, but yeah, it just it just

462
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: really inspired me to feel like wow, like there there

463
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 2: are no limits to what this live podcast show is

464
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 2: going to be in looking for us, so we're not

465
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: mirroring it in anybody else's image. We're literally just trying

466
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: to give people what we feel you guys want. So

467
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: we're hoping that we're you know, hitting the nail on

468
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: the head those of you who came and not for nothing.

469
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 4: We are podcasters, that's one thing that we do. True,

470
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 4: we're also thespians. We've also trained true excuse me, many

471
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 4: art of oratory for years. You got your master's degree

472
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 4: in uh speech, communication and performance. You're a classically trained dancer.

473
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: There's so many parts of you that people don't get

474
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 4: a chance to see when you put on a show

475
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: for people, show all your talents, but so many people

476
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 4: don't know that Trouble is a stand up.

477
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: Now you get a chance to watch it beforehand.

478
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 4: Dead ass Court get to do her stand up when

479
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: she's meeting people on the meet and greet, like all

480
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 4: of our friends have so many different times that this

481
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: is just an opportunity created by us for us to

482
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 4: showcase to everyone what we can do, and hopefully not

483
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 4: only for just Cadeen and I, but for our entire team.

484
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 4: They get to go do so many more things because

485
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 4: they've done this right.

486
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: Right.

487
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 4: For example, they can be producers or executives watching our

488
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 4: podcasts and say who did the wig changes? How did

489
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 4: they get Kadeen from a Beyonce bump to a bob

490
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 4: in ten minutes, and now Janelle is out there somewhere

491
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: doing big time movie, which is gonna.

492
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: Be hope for everybody, Like the buck doesn't stop here

493
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: within the Dead Ass podcast community or the deval in Kadeen,

494
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: the Ellis's realm, Like we root for our team hard.

495
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: We want them to go out and soar. I mean,

496
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: still be available when I call your ass. Okay, let's

497
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: not get ahead of ourselves, but no, we want this

498
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: to open doors for them and make them feel like, wow,

499
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm empowered to do whatever I want. Yeah, you know,

500
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: Kadeen and devalag on back y'all one hundred and ten

501
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: percent every step of the way. But that's a good

502
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: point that you may, babe, Like, there's so many layers

503
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: to so many people in our team. Like I even

504
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 2: think about myself. So many people who watch, for example,

505
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: the YouTube blogs or who have been following us for

506
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: the past seven years have really only seen me having babies, yes,

507
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, pregnant, getting back after another baby.

508
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Speaker 3: I'm doing all the.

509
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: The mom content and the wife content, but not even

510
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: realizing like there's.

511
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Speaker 1: You are a whole performer in your other side.

512
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all the other sides of Kadeen that people

513
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: have not even seen yet.

514
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: And that was something I'm purposeful about.

515
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 2: Even when I turn forty, I'm like, now I'm excited

516
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 2: to see what the rest of my life can look like,

517
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: now that I'm getting back into my comfort zone of

518
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: what I love to do, and that's perform, Like I

519
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: come alive on stage, and I think it's it's part

520
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: me just loving that space and being able to perform

521
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 2: live and in person with people, but also feeding off

522
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: the energy of the crowd, like that gives me the

523
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: fuel that I need in those spaces.

524
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Speaker 4: Your pageant girl came out when you got on stage

525
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 4: because I watched you go from mom relaxed, chill, devour

526
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 4: wife and then when they call you out there, it's

527
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: like boom.

528
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

529
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: I watch, I watched you elongate, I watch your posture change,

530
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: I watch the way you face the crowd, and I say,

531
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: for years, like for years you trained to be on

532
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: stage and to present to people. Yeah, you deserve to

533
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 4: showcase that. And here's and here's what it reminded me of.

534
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 4: In the nineties, I watched the show created by a

535
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: man who put his whole family on and his friends.

536
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Speaker 1: The show was called in Living Color.

537
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: It was a variety show. They had dancers. One of

538
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 4: those dancers went on to become one of the greatest

539
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 4: entertainers we know. Her name is j Lo, Tommy Davis

540
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: and Jim Carrey, Jamie Fox. Oh my god, Like the

541
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: list can go on and on all of the Waynes

542
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 4: that's charl Wayne's, Marlon Wayne's. But it started with a

543
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 4: little variety show that no one paid any attention to.

544
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: And it was supposed to be the black version Saturday

545
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: Night Live. And it ran for I think seven to

546
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: nine seasons and it kind of went away. But then

547
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 4: we watched all of the people from that show just flourish.

548
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: That's when I came up with the concept for this tour,

549
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: and you agreed to do it with me.

550
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Speaker 1: That's what I foresaw.

551
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Speaker 4: I said, people are gonna watch you do these costume

552
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: changes and watch me, and they're going to say, who

553
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: designed this for them?

554
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Oh, that was Shari?

555
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: Can we get her for this? People are going to

556
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: watch two creative directed this. I was Brian Jordan Jr.

557
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 4: You think we can get him for this?

558
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: You know when you look at the footage after who

559
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: edited this? You know what I'm saying, Josh, you know, yeah,

560
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

561
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Speaker 4: I'm telling you from from this tour. And this is

562
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: why it's hard for me to say it's the last

563
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: I want to look at the camera and already tell

564
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: y'all that it's it's a decision that you know, it's

565
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: just a decision that's tough for us to make. But

566
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: we we have so many other things, including being parents

567
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: that we have to focus on because we have not

568
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: been as involved in our children's life over the last

569
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 4: three months because we've been preparing so much and that's hard,

570
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: that's extremely difficult. So we we we're still thinking, thinking,

571
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: but as of right now, I can I can see

572
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: this as being like, hey, it's a good way.

573
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went out.

574
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Like we said in the in the first caption that

575
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: you posted, like you know, see the Elyssies go out

576
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: with the bang, and I was like, is this really it?

577
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, there's just like like we said, there's

578
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: so many layers to the Ellisis. There's so many layers

579
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: to Devo as an individual, Kadeen as an individual, so

580
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: many more things that we want to do and we're

581
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: just hoping that the live shows, you know, once the

582
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: footage is released or whoever attended the show can just

583
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: see like, man, I didn't realize that Kadeen could do that,

584
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: or damn, I see a Deval do a stand up,

585
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: like he's not a stand up, but he is like

586
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: a stand up. You know, there's just so many different

587
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: avenues that we can take. So we receive that, you know,

588
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: we're open to it, and again, in God's timing, when

589
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: those opportunities present themselves, then we can make those decisions.

590
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what's next, y'all. There's a lot

591
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: to consider. But I have to give you your flowers again

592
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: and say you were right with this one. You were

593
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: right with this one. We committed to it. Like Brian said,

594
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: it's not going to be gimmicky and funny and goofy.

595
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you're gonna dance, y'all asses off, open

596
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: the show up, and then we're gonna roll into giving

597
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: people the real dead ass experience.

598
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: And I think we achieved that. I love it. I

599
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: love it.

600
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: I love it all right, So we're gonna go ahead

601
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: and we're gonna pay some more bills because Baby, A

602
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: tour is expensive.

603
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, expensive.

604
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: I love my team, but ship the invoice is rolling

605
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 2: in now at the end of the tour. That might

606
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: be another reason why I was a little emotional this morning, like,

607
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: oh my god. So yeah, let me go pay these

608
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: bills real quick, and so we compare our people and

609
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: then we'll be back with some listening letters.

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Speaker 3: So stick around, y'all.

611
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: All right, y'all be back, and you know we're back

612
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: with Kadeen's favorite time to get in everybody.

613
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: Ways baby, between listening letters and dead ass court. Yell baby,

614
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: but they need.

615
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: To give me some stronger plaintives because this prosecuting attorney

616
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: over here, they didn't be making it real hard for me.

617
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Speaker 1: And these get out last one in Atlanta.

618
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, they make it real young, like.

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Speaker 1: She's The funny thing is babies.

620
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: When we asked when we have young couples and they

621
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: come up on stage, they never really have a lot

622
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: to say. And I think about how we were at

623
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: that age, and we wouldn't have a lot to say either.

624
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Speaker 1: Five talk about.

625
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: Relationship being on a stage in front of eighteen hundred

626
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: people judging you.

627
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's pretty difficult. It's pretty different.

628
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: So so shout out to everybody who participated at Dead

629
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: Ass Podcast court at the live shows.

630
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: No Easy feat.

631
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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump into listener letters. Dear to Valencadein

632
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Speaker 2: Hey family, like you guys, Like you guys are really

633
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: my family. I love that I've been following you guys

634
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: since those Brooklyn apartment days when it was just you

635
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: and Jackson.

636
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: We love that. We actually just Jackson came to gave me.

637
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: A big hug today and he was like, Mom, like

638
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: we're doing like all these things like we started in Brooklyn.

639
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: Like even Jackson sees it and I love it. He

640
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: can remember that, you know, he remembers those days. Yeah,

641
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about those YouTube days. Now you all are

642
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: parents to four whole boys, beautiful black boys. To see

643
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: where you all started and to see where you are

644
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: and you're going God is amazing. Indeed, thank you so

645
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: much for that. I really don't have any advice. I

646
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: just want to give you your flowers.

647
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: Oh emotional, I can't deal.

648
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I always believe in giving people the flowers they deserve.

649
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: You guys are amazing.

650
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that we see you,

651
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: we hear you, and that I'm always here to support

652
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: anything that you do, from the.

653
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: Live shows to the live book tour.

654
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: I've been to every show that came through DC and

655
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: have taken something new from each one. I love that,

656
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: we love that you have takeaways every time I have

657
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: read your book I believe three times now, and I've

658
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: taken some different, something different from it each time. Wow,

659
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: I really you really do something with that book, or

660
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: you really did something with that book. Thank you, I

661
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: thank you and I appreciate you guys so much.

662
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: I love you.

663
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: Continue to be the beacon that beacon and continue to

664
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: inspire us all. I love you, I see you love

665
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: Kim from Merlin, Kim from Merlin.

666
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. Kim.

667
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 2: You know to hear that you've read the book several

668
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: times and you've taken something different away from me each time.

669
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: It is really beautiful. While we were on the Meet

670
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: and Greek line, I think it was in Atlanta, it

671
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: might have been last night. Actually everything's a blur, but

672
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: someone brought their book for me to sign and literally

673
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: in the cover, did you see it?

674
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: She had like.

675
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Copious amounts of notes that she took from the book.

676
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because Daval and I sometimes feel like, man,

677
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: are we saying the same things over and over again

678
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: but in different ways?

679
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: Like are people going to receive it? We're tired of

680
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: hearing it.

681
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: We don't know if y'all are tired of hearing it,

682
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 2: but we continue to share because there's people who are

683
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: still being introduced to us, who can experience us in

684
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: a new way. Or like you said, you read the

685
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: book three different times and you pull something different from it.

686
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: I've had people come on that meet and greet line

687
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: and whisper to me, you guys literally saved my marriage,

688
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: or you help me communicate with my husband in a

689
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: way I never.

690
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Was able to do before.

691
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: So the fact that we're here literally doing God's work,

692
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: it makes me feel so good to be walking in

693
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: my purpose because I never knew what that purpose was,

694
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: and I was trying to figure out what it was

695
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: for so long.

696
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: But this is definitely it.

697
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: So thank you that gives me, at least personally, the

698
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: drive to want to continue.

699
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: Y'all be making it hard for me to want to

700
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: walk away from this mic.

701
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I like when you want it, you feel me.

702
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: But thank you for that love note Kim Merlin, we

703
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: appreciate you and we love you so much.

704
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: Thank you. It's nice to have the flowers presented.

705
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Listener letter number two, Hey to Valon Kadeen.

706
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: Let me start off by saying, your live show this

707
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: year in Dallas was so much fun.

708
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I had such a good time.

709
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: I was front row and enjoyed the Vush's moonwalk, beonce Split,

710
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: the hilarious dead ass court, and your vulnerability during Q

711
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: and A. Then to hug and give you, Then to

712
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: hug and give love to you both in person at

713
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 4: the meet and greet with such a blessing. Thank you

714
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: for all that you do. Will always support the ILLNESSUS

715
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: and I'm Patreon fam. So I'm about to be thirty

716
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: in August ninety four. Baby, My village is very proud

717
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: of the woman I'm becoming, and I never want to

718
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: disappoint them. However, I want to live a life that

719
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: makes me happy, regardless of anyone's opinion. As you all

720
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: are entering your forties, what advice would you give your

721
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: twenty nine.

722
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Year old self entering your thirties?

723
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: What would you do different or keep the same, And

724
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: how do you balance making your village proud but also

725
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: living authentic to yourself?

726
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Love you all, that's.

727
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: A really good one. That's a really good one.

728
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: It's easy for me if they are village.

729
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: Your village is going to be proud of whatever you

730
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: do as long as you're happy, as long as you're

731
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: not a detriment to yourself or anyone else. If you

732
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: really truly have a village, they are going to be

733
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: in alignment with whatever makes you happy. If they're not

734
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: as supportive, what makes you happy, Ask yourself if they

735
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: really your true village, because they may not be.

736
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Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a good one.

737
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: My twenty nine year old self worried so much about

738
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: what everybody else thought village included, because I think there

739
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: was a fear for me of thinking, like, man, my

740
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: parents have invested so much in me over the years

741
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: that I don't want to disappoint them. But I had

742
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: to also realize that this is also my life right,

743
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: and though I don't want to disappoint them, I had

744
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: to kind of go out on a limb sometimes and

745
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: do things that might have been against what they thought

746
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: was in my best interest at the time. But my

747
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: gut was telling me this was the right move, or

748
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: God was like Gurkadine, this is the right time. So

749
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: now in my forties, in retrospect, I wish I cared

750
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: a lot less about what people thought. What I wouldn't

751
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: change is the desire to continue to make my village proud,

752
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: because everything that's a val and I do, we do

753
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: aim to make our families proud, and we want them

754
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: to feel like man like Devala Kadeen or Kadeen. Rather

755
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: when it comes to my family, she's really just out

756
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: here living in her purpose. She's doing the things that

757
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: she wants to do. She's not a detriment to herself

758
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: or to society. She's being the best wife and mom

759
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: that she could be. So I would have told myself

760
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: earlier on to just man, forget the noise, forget what

761
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: everybody else thinks, and just do what your gut is

762
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: telling you to do. Go in the path that God

763
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: is leading you. And that's what's gotten me here today.

764
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: So you're true to yourself.

765
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: You added some valuable points there that I think I

766
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 4: might have missed when you said that trying to make

767
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: your village proud. I think that is a valuable point

768
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: because your village when you're young pours into you. So

769
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: a lot of times we try to make our village

770
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: proud when we don't realize that we are making our

771
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: village proud by just being who they created the foundation for.

772
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Us to be. You know what I'm saying.

773
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: Sometimes we put too much pressure on ourselves and we say, well,

774
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: my village would want me to do this, so let

775
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: me do this, as opposed to asking myself, am I

776
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: projecting some things that I want to do on my village.

777
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: And saying I'm only doing this because.

778
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: Of my village.

779
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: That's also a surefire way to be upset yourself, you know,

780
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: to be unhappy, to be unhappy, you're right. Even thinking

781
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: back to me, for example, given having the conversation with

782
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: my parents that I'm going to move to Michigan to

783
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: be with you when you were a part of the Lions,

784
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: graduated from grad school, you know, I said I'm going

785
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: to live in Detroit with Deval because he needs me

786
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: there for support. And my mother was like, what, Like,

787
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: how am I going to tell your grandmother and your

788
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: aunts and your uncles that You're moving to go live

789
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: with a man in Detroit. But in that moment, I

790
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: knew what Deval needed. This was my partner, my best friend.

791
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, he needs me to be there to support

792
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: him through what's a huge, major life changing moment for

793
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: him and could potentially be for us if we did

794
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: continue to stay together and get engaged and married. So

795
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: why not if I could and had the ability and

796
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: the resources to stay with him so that way he

797
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 2: can be his best self in that moment, why would

798
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: I not? So imagine if I didn't come to Michigan

799
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: to stay with you, you know, and you were able

800
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: to perform to the best of your ability because you

801
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: were just homesick, or you were missing me, or we

802
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: were trying to deal with this since you know, that

803
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: was a moment where I just had to go with

804
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: my gut and say, hey, I'm going to be with

805
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: my mand But.

806
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: That also comes to show like God gives us all

807
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: each our own individual vision.

808
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: Right.

809
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: There is no one vision that God has for everyone

810
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: and we all see the same vision. That's just not

811
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: the case, right. God speaks to us all differently. We

812
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: all have our own relationship with God, absolutely, and sometimes

813
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 4: it takes time for your village to see the vision that.

814
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: God gave you.

815
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: As long as you're moving in alignment with God, and

816
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: you're moving in alignment with what you truly want to

817
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: do with yourself, your village will be fine. They may

818
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 4: not see it right here, because I said this at

819
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: this podcast. God will give you foresight, you know what

820
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: I'm saying. God will get foresight, but sometimes the people

821
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: around you have insight. Those who have insight don't see

822
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: the foresight.

823
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

824
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 4: If God has given you foresight to see what's best

825
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: for you, don't ignore that foresight because the people giving

826
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: you insight is your village, so you have to learn

827
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: how to balance it and always know that time over time,

828
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: history is are your best friend. They may not see

829
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: it right now, but if you know you're doing the

830
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: right thing, just keep pushing forward.

831
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely, like you said, if they're really your village, even

832
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: if your foresight might have fell a little short, they're

833
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: gonna be there for you regardless, absolutely regardless, and if not,

834
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: get you a new village.

835
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: All right, y'all.

836
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: If you want to be featured as a future listener

837
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: letter here on Dead Ass Podcast, be sure to email

838
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: us at Deadass Advice at gmail dot com.

839
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: That's d E A D A S S A d

840
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: V I C E at gmail dot com.

841
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Moment of Truth time we're talking about the Love Against

842
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: the World tour, how we creatively came up with this tour,

843
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: what this show looked like from inception to stage. And

844
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: my moment of truth is I'm still listening to Devo

845
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: and his plans because they usually, like I said, nine

846
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: point eight times out of ten, they hit. But no,

847
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: I think the overarching moment of truth for me is

848
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: just really believing in myself and knowing that whatever it

849
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: is that I put my mind too, I can do.

850
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: Even at forty years old.

851
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: That's not something that you tell children, you know, as

852
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: they're growing up in grade school or elementary school.

853
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: You can be whatever you want to be.

854
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: It sounds so like cliche for kids, but us as

855
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: adults in our twenties and thirties and forties and fifties

856
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: can still if you put your mind to it, and

857
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: you work at it, and you prey on it, and

858
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: you stretch, and you have some icy hot and ben

859
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: gay and ep some salt nearby, you can do it.

860
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: You can't do it, you can. I watch you do it. Baby.

861
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: Your thick ass good need a little bit like a

862
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 2: rub down soon, Okay.

863
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: I got you. You let me know what you need now.

864
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: Six slits several in between. I'm gonna keep it up

865
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: though listening, I'm gonna take me a dance class. You

866
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: will take me a dance classes too, because I use

867
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: muscles in my body. I forgot existed, and your body's

868
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: changed because even my core. Like we literally did fittings

869
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: with Juria shout out to Jarea our Taylor.

870
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: We did fittings with her in what was it?

871
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: That was early February, end of January, yeah, d of January,

872
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: and she was putting clothes on us at the show

873
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: dud CHERI and thirteenth, I mean in DC. My dress

874
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: was falling off. That was pants ways to loose. They

875
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: were like, wait a second, it's only been like two

876
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: three weeks and y'all are like disappearing.

877
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, good times, y'all, good times. What's your moment

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Speaker 3: of truth, babe?

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Speaker 4: My moment of truth is very simple. It's always love

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Speaker 4: against the world. Always, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You can create anything with love.

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Speaker 4: When you create things, create things thinking about your village

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Speaker 4: and your people. How can everybody around you gain from it?

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Speaker 4: You know, you can't create anything and be selfish and

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Speaker 4: think me, me me. I want to know everybody and

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Speaker 4: our crew is a star in their own right, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: from here to make up to audio, visual, creative direction,

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Speaker 4: the dancers us as talent, everybody's a star. And watching

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Speaker 4: what in Living Color was able to do with their

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Speaker 4: whole family and then all of those friends, I feel

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Speaker 4: like we can do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And my moment of truth is we're about to go

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 4: This may be the last tour, but this won't be

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Speaker 4: the last time you see this crew together doing something.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact.

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Speaker 2: It's love against the world, but it's also love within

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Speaker 2: our world.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I like that. I like that?

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 3: Bars te will no, I got the bars.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all be sure to follow us and find

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Speaker 2: us on Patreon if you have not yet, shout out

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Speaker 2: to our Patreon Ganganggang, You're yellow and I love to

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Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: You'll find the exclusive dead Ass podcast content there as

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Speaker 2: well as Ellis Family content, and you can find us

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Speaker 2: on social media as well.

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Speaker 3: Check out the dead Ass podcast page.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have lots of recaps from the tour as

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Speaker 2: well as on my page Kadeen I am and I.

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Speaker 4: Am Deval And also make sure you get your copy

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Speaker 4: of We Over Me The counterintuitive approach to getting everything

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Speaker 3: And subscribe dead Ass, Baby Love Y'all.

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Speaker 4: produced by Donor, Pinya and Treble. Follow the podcast on

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