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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrandt. That fine gentleman over there in

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Speaker 2: sunny in springy in a thawing Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you today?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I sound worse than I feel than pumping

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Speaker 2: We had five inches of snow this weekend, but mercifully,

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Speaker 2: it seems as if the weather's going up into the

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Speaker 2: Not quite yet. We got to give the ground a

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Speaker 2: diving in full bore into spring here. And that's what

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Speaker 2: this show is about, Dan. This show is about spring questions.

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Speaker 1: Spring forward.

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Speaker 2: we're gonna look forward. We're going to talk about spring

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Speaker 1: It's sure there are going to be collectives, and so

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Speaker 2: me moving forward, but eight million is a big number.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a big chunk. Yeah, And it's it's

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Speaker 2: Oh, no, imbibe that feeling of spring.

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Speaker 1: It is springtime, Dan, solid verbal presented by flows.

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Speaker 1: Great. File it away, File it away right. It is springtime.

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Speaker 2: Spring games are very much on the horizon. The big

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Speaker 2: Who needs to lay a better foundation, who has something

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Speaker 3: The first date? No, I'm saying that seems a little

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Speaker 1: Sure, No, And it's also an exceptional time for recruits

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Speaker 1: are gonna mesh how players respond in practice, what practices

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Speaker 1: are like. And now recruits are able to go to

435
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Speaker 1: campus and say, okay, I have a sense for a

436
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly LSU program. I have a sense for a

437
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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman Notre Dame program. I have a sense for

438
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Speaker 1: a Dan Lanning Oregon program. And so those that it's

439
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: the little pieces you're filling in a lot of blanks

440
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: around the program that like and yes, there are programs

441
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Speaker 1: like last year, like oh, Bryce Young is definitely the

442
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback at Alabama. We know this. We saw him

443
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Speaker 1: in spring. We watched the spring and I'm like, yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: they don't have another guy who can do this. And

445
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Speaker 1: it was meaningful. He sort of put what we believed

446
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Speaker 1: into practice. But otherwise, yeah, I think it's sort of

447
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: a margin thing. And you know, you're crossing your fingers

448
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Speaker 1: for what you won't hear.

449
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Speaker 2: All right, let's dive in, Dan Rubinstein, I just found

450
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Speaker 2: that one.

451
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Speaker 1: I don't know what we use. I like how we

452
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Speaker 1: just spent like eleven minutes saying it's not that serious,

453
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Speaker 1: and like, Dan Rubinstein, serious.

454
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Speaker 2: Sound give me a spring question that you've got. Give

455
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Speaker 2: me a specific spring question that you've got.

456
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Speaker 1: It's it's all of the new combinations of offensive coordinator

457
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Speaker 1: and quarterbacks across the sport. And this is a big question.

458
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Speaker 1: Is this is a more broad question, but it's true

459
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Speaker 1: for you know, we brought up Nebraska. You can look

460
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Speaker 1: at where Adrian Martinez, who is now I think his

461
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator if you're ready to feel real old Colin

462
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Speaker 1: Kleine new offensive coordinator at Kansas State.

463
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Speaker 2: Wow.

464
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Speaker 1: And because we have the number of transfers across sports

465
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Speaker 1: and the amount of coach movement across the sport, like

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can Bow Nix and Kenny Dillingham and

467
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Speaker 1: Oregon like you have like the three that the triple,

468
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Speaker 1: the triple play here with a new head coach, offensive ordinator,

469
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Speaker 1: and quarterback. So I suppose my biggest question is a

470
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Speaker 1: selfish one because Oregon brings in a defensive coach who

471
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Speaker 1: has had a ton of defensive success. They bring in

472
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Speaker 1: a new coordinator who has never I think, been a

473
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Speaker 1: full time play caller in Kenny Dillingham. It goes back

474
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Speaker 1: with Mike Norvell Memphis Florida State, and spend some time

475
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Speaker 1: at Auburn with Gus Melzan and Bo Nicks who has

476
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Speaker 1: that history with Kenny Dillingham. And I just think I

477
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Speaker 1: don't think it's the biggest question in college football in

478
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Speaker 1: the spring, but to me, they are a poster child

479
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Speaker 1: for I have no idea what they're trying to do,

480
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Speaker 1: what they'll look like, how quickly they'll play on offense,

481
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Speaker 1: and that to me is at least something that can

482
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Speaker 1: begin to be answered this spring. Are there any other

483
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Speaker 1: schools I mentioned Kansas State where you have like a

484
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Speaker 1: pit situation where you're replacing what's now an excellent quarterback

485
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Speaker 1: in Kenny Pickett and Mark Whipplett offensive coordinator and Brendan Marion,

486
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Speaker 1: who is a big part of that offense at receivers coach, Like,

487
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Speaker 1: who are the schools that have those like like two

488
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Speaker 1: or three person combos that are fascinating to you? I

489
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Speaker 1: guess I'm turning the question back to you. But Oregon

490
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Speaker 1: is that prime example to me? LSU is another big

491
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Speaker 1: one for me. Yeah, I suppose Notre Dame. I suppose

492
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Speaker 1: Michigan could have a new full time starting quarterback. They'll

493
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Speaker 1: definitely have a new full time offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Oregon is probably where I

495
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Speaker 2: go first with it, Dan, Yeah, you know, just because

496
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Speaker 2: there's so much emotion there. The bone Knicks to Oregon

497
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Speaker 2: thing was always confounding to me.

498
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

499
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Speaker 2: It was always confounding to me. And so what that

500
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Speaker 2: looks like like you coach other quarterbacks and the roster

501
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Speaker 2: who could probably play system like that. To me, I'm

502
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Speaker 2: always really interested in the situations that on the surface

503
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Speaker 2: don't feel like they make a whole lot of sense, right,

504
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Speaker 2: And that one, to me, you can say I'm stupid.

505
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Speaker 1: You could say maybe I didn't do the research. Whatever,

506
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Speaker 1: I don't care.

507
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Speaker 2: I never understood the Bownicks move to Oregon just feels

508
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: like an odd fit to me. So that one, I

509
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Speaker 2: think for sure, is probably the one that stands out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally get that. And if you look across

511
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Speaker 1: the sport, a lot of these situations you at least

512
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Speaker 1: have a sense, right, you've seen a Mark Whipple offense.

513
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Speaker 1: I don't know why we keep hammering you know Pitt

514
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Speaker 1: and Nebraska, Like, you've seen what he's able to do

515
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Speaker 1: as a full time play caller. You've seen a quarterback

516
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Speaker 1: within a system. You've seen like you know what a

517
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Speaker 1: Tommy Reese offense, you know what a Mike Denbrock Brian

518
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Speaker 1: Kelly offense is going to look? Like you have a sense.

519
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Speaker 1: But there are certain places where are like like even

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Speaker 1: the Clemson situation, like you.

521
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Speaker 2: Kind of don't steal, don't steal my thumb.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry I want to I'm gonna go there. I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm just talking about schematically like, I don't imagine

524
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of changes there, but I

525
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Speaker 1: don't know they were internal higher So at least you

526
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Speaker 1: have a sense for that. But there are certain schools

527
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Speaker 1: like what's going to happen at Auburn, right, if you

528
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Speaker 1: go back and am I stealing all of your thunder?

529
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Speaker 1: Is that what I'm noting? No, it's it's fine.

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Speaker 2: No, it's we're very like minded here because as you're

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Speaker 2: saying this, I'm thinking, man, this is Auburn.

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Speaker 1: Right, You're you're thinking about. Okay, so at least Zat

533
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Speaker 1: Calzada has the experience within that specific conference. Eric Kiso,

534
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Speaker 1: the new new offensive coordinator for Auburn, has had experience

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Speaker 1: on a number of interesting offensive staves. And we know

536
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Speaker 1: what Brian Harson's offensive background looks like. But when you

537
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Speaker 1: have those defensive minded coaches, like does Marcus Freeman have

538
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Speaker 1: a new vision for the Notre Dame offense? Presumably know

539
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Speaker 1: with how much they're paying Tommy Reese, but like, this

540
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Speaker 1: is his time, this is his program. I love. I

541
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Speaker 1: love seeing the tweaks and shifts and changes as new

542
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Speaker 1: guys come into power.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask my question please. I won't play

544
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Speaker 2: that every time. It's a little too true. Okay, Okay,

545
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Speaker 2: you mentioned Clemson. My question is I think a little

546
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Speaker 2: bit more specific to Clemson, and that is is Dju

547
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Speaker 2: actually safe as Clemson quarterback?

548
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Speaker 1: Is he safe? Yeah? I would assume so. I would

549
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Speaker 1: assume so.

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Speaker 2: But everybody's really high on kid Klubnik, who is now

551
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Speaker 2: on campus. And I have seen in multiple places reporters

552
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Speaker 2: commit the sin if you want to call it that,

553
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Speaker 2: steer into the trope, if you want to call it

554
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: that of saying that he can really spin it. And

555
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Speaker 2: let me tell you something, sun when guys who can

556
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Speaker 2: really spin it or on the roster, generally they don't sit.

557
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Speaker 2: So Dju is in an interesting spot. He did get

558
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Speaker 2: better as a season war on, He did get better

559
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: early on. His footwork was terrible, he was terrible, He

560
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: looked awful. That did improve Clemson all also was in

561
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Speaker 2: the situation last year where they had a ton of

562
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Speaker 2: injuries and that didn't help. Just didn't help, doesn't help.

563
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Speaker 2: But even still, he only completed fifty five percent of

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Speaker 2: his passes. He had more interceptions and touchdowns. And this

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Speaker 2: is a Clemson offense that was a shell of its

566
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Speaker 2: former self, right, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: For sure. And if you pay attention to and watch

568
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Speaker 1: the Clemson games and the conversation that Clemson fans, smart

569
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Speaker 1: Clemson fans have and analysts who have really jumped into

570
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: the Clemson film, it's sort of an across the board thing.

571
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Speaker 1: Like the receiver play wasn't on the level of where

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Speaker 1: it had been the previous decade at Clemson. The offensive

573
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Speaker 1: line play had been pretty disappointing, the play calling had

574
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Speaker 1: had become pretty predictabus.

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Speaker 2: Just a lot of stuff a lot of stuff at

576
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Speaker 2: the same time, and it's not fair to pin it

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Speaker 2: all on dju.

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Speaker 1: Or on Jeff Scott, Scott, Jeff Scott, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Elliott, Yeah, Tony Elliott, or really anybody, right, But Big

580
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: Sinko is the biggest presence in that huddle, and when

581
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Speaker 2: he struggles, he's going to shoulder a lot of the blame. So,

582
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Speaker 2: now as we move forward into twenty twenty two, look

583
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Speaker 2: at the situation. The situation is Clemson's got basically an

584
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Speaker 2: entirely new coaching staff, Tony Elliott, Virginia, Brent Vannaboles, notably

585
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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. But he goes

586
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Speaker 2: over to Oklahoma and.

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Speaker 1: The athletic Yeah. Yeah, So just like a lot.

588
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Speaker 2: Of stuff is going down to Clemson, and it does

589
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: beg the question of to what end is anybody safe?

590
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Speaker 2: To what end is Clemson as we know it going.

591
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Speaker 1: To be a thing.

592
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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not going to take the alarmist point of

593
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Speaker 2: view here and say that Clemson's going down the tubes.

594
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Speaker 2: That is not what I am saying. But I think

595
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Speaker 2: it is premature to assume much of anything with Clemson.

596
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Clemson's gonna have a ton of talent, but DJ you,

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Speaker 2: with some of his early struggles, I think it's at

598
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Speaker 2: least worth asking. Maybe not in spring, maybe not for

599
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Speaker 2: week six, but the deeper we get into this thing,

600
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Speaker 2: we've seen dabb Will do it before where he decides

601
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Speaker 2: to pull a quarterback change and it works out. But

602
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Speaker 2: I'm just really curious to see how that situation materializes

603
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Speaker 2: if there is any kind of.

604
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Speaker 1: Low key competition there. Yeah, and they lost some key

605
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: guys to transfer and don't bring in guys to patch holes,

606
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Speaker 1: so they're not bringing in experienced guys from other places

607
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: that can immediately balance out a defensive line room or

608
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Speaker 1: a receiver's room based on the fact that they're twenty

609
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Speaker 1: twenty two and mature. And you know, an interesting leader

610
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Speaker 1: like Clemson's going to battle with the guys that they've

611
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Speaker 1: recruited out of high school. And I guess Hunter Johnson

612
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Speaker 1: who left and came back, So whatever that's worth. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: unless to me, you're broader in your main point, Cad,

614
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Speaker 1: you said it's club nik klubnik. I haven't learned my

615
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: pronunciations yet. If he is uncommonly mature in the way

616
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Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence were then sure, I

617
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: could see Dju getting pushed. But if you are having

618
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Speaker 1: the down year, the cheese it ish year that Clemson

619
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Speaker 1: had last year, and then you turn to a true freshman,

620
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Speaker 1: you better be positive that his upside is enough to

621
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Speaker 1: mask the deficiencies that haven't yet been fixed. And I

622
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Speaker 1: don't see it. I just I don't see it for

623
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Speaker 1: basically any true freshman quarterback. I think it's a huge

624
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: exception to the rule rather than any sort of reasonable expectation.

625
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Speaker 2: I completely agree, and look, DJ, you children, DJU proved

626
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Speaker 2: himself to be very durable last year in a year

627
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: where he had to be, because you'll recall that quarterback

628
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: depth was just not there outside of him, it was

629
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Speaker 2: it was slow going. So I don't honestly believe that.

630
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Speaker 2: But it's a question for me because he did struggle

631
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Speaker 2: so much last year. Let me turn the page a

632
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Speaker 2: little bit. Let's go to a different program.

633
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is true of all programs. Quarterbacks

634
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: improve quarterbacks.

635
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Speaker 2: And you know what else is true in most programs

636
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Speaker 2: this year, Yeah, last year, remember what the narrative was

637
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: going into the season. One of the reasons we were

638
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: so interested it was because there were a lot of

639
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: new quarterbacks in big spots. Yes, this year, we don't

640
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Speaker 2: have that this coming season. No, the quarterback position at

641
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: most Power five places is sort of already decided. Sure,

642
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: so it's a different circumstance in twenty twenty two.

643
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the heavy hitters that we had last year,

644
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: but it's still think they're interesting new faces at quarterback

645
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 1: or new full time faces at quarterback. But yeah, last

646
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: year almost seems like it was probably an aberration. The

647
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: other fascinating thing to me with quarterback is in this

648
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: era of transfers, especially at quarterback, right that you're going

649
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: to go to a place for a couple years, see

650
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: if you can win out, And you go into places

651
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: now as a top flight quarterback thinking if I win

652
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: the battle, I'll play three two, three years whatever, and

653
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: if I don't, I'm leaving. Like that's the mindset right now.

654
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: And so the fascinating thing is all of these schools

655
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: know that too, obviously, and so they are bringing in,

656
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, the top of the top five star after

657
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: five star and consecutive classes, four star after four star

658
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: and consecutive classes. So the minute these guys find out

659
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: that they're number three on the depth chart, that's that

660
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: second or third wave excuse me, of transfers. And so

661
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: that to me is like, and I use the Mazoo example,

662
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: like you're only the next hot thing for a year

663
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: and then there's a new next hot thing, and so

664
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: Miszoo is an example of that. We've seen it all

665
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: over the sport, Like Texas right now is likely going

666
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: to start quinn yours. Yes, yeah, that's our guess. Has

667
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: not run a full spring practice, fall camp or anything

668
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: for Texas. Hudson card was that next hot thing? And

669
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: who's Texas recruiting right now to be their quarterback starting

670
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: next year? Presumably arch Manning right that there is going

671
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: even at the top, you are only the next hot

672
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: thing for precisely a year, and then you're just a

673
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: name on a list.

674
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: One of those programs that I think does have some

675
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: quarterback questions, probably not as burning a variety of questions

676
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: some other places, but Texas A and M. I think

677
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: there's amazing questions all over for A and M. Continue

678
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: A and M is very very interesting to me, not

679
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: necessarily because of the quarterback position. Right, So the quarterback

680
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: situation is Haynes's keig was hurt.

681
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: He was a redshirt freshman. He was hurt last year.

682
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: That's when we saw Zach calz out a step up

683
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: and you know, perform okay, beat Alabama, which is a

684
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: pretty big deal if you're an A and M fan.

685
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: But Haines King is going to be back. They also

686
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: bring in Max Johnson, who transfers over from LSU, and

687
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: I think the assumption is that he will probably be

688
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: the guy. But also there's Connor Wegman, who was their

689
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: big time freshman recruit. That will be interesting to see

690
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: how Jimbo handles that situation. Again, the assumption is that

691
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: it's going to be Max Johnson, but who knows. Right

692
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: What I'm actually more curious about is what they do

693
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 2: and if we can glean anything into their passing game,

694
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: specifically explosive plays, because that's been an area where A

695
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: and M's really struggled the last couple of years. They

696
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: need to find a way to go downfield a little

697
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: bit more. I am infinitely curious if Evan Stewart, their prospect,

698
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: can do anything, if he can help them blow the

699
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: lid off the top of opposing defenses. He's a guy

700
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: that when recruited and you know, everybody does kind of

701
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: the player comps thing. He was compared to Devonte Smith.

702
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: A and M.

703
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: With a quarterback who could throw it deep and even

704
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: a eighty percent version of Davonte Smith A and M

705
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: becomes far more formidable as an offense. They just have

706
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: not had that, And so I don't know if that's

707
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: something we're going to see in the springtime. I don't

708
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: know if we'll find out anything more about that when

709
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: we watch a spring game, but maybe in spring reports

710
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: somebody will write about I don't know, but that for me,

711
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: that's the big question. It's not so much the quarterback thing.

712
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: It's what will the infusion of a guy like in

713
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: Evan Stewart do for that offense? Is it something that

714
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: jim Bo can capitalize on?

715
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean that's been the story at least

716
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: the last two off seasons as well. Sure, exactly where

717
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: where is the game changing receiver? Like we love an

718
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Aiah Smith. I think his value is in versatility. He

719
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: can run a bunch of different routes. You can line

720
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: him up in the backfield, you can use him on

721
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: He's a converted running back, correct and so he is.

722
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: He's a Swiss army knife. He's everything you want out

723
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: of an all purpose type player. But and by the

724
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: way you say, you know, contextas A and M find

725
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: that quarterback to throw it downfield to the game game

726
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: breaking receiver. I think with Max Johnson it's more loft loft,

727
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: it's downfield. Hopefully there's there's a good tailwind, yes, hoping

728
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: for the elements given him a bit of a boost. No,

729
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's a fair question. And the

730
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: question to me is more how much closer does Texas

731
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: A and M get on defense because of what they

732
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: recruited in the secondary, and they have a relatively experienced

733
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: secondary what they recruited in the on defense, you look

734
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: at I think it's Harold Perkins. He's probably gonna be

735
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: Harry Perkins. Let's be honest. That's probably if he's a star,

736
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: it's probably what we're gonna roll with. You look at

737
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: Walter Nolan, like, it's what do they do in order

738
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: to close the gap to from becoming a team with

739
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: a good defense to a team with a great defense

740
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: that comes at teams in waves, that's able to keep

741
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: cycling guys in the way that George was able to

742
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: do last year. You put together the number one recruiting

743
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: class of all time. Then you start talking about you know,

744
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: stacking classes and guys who are just playing thirty five

745
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: snaps a game instead of fifty five snaps a game.

746
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: You got fresh legs all over the places. You got

747
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: just a crushing defense that despite only having Max Johnson,

748
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: despite not having a clear game breaking receiver or an

749
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: offensive line that was a little bit too leaky last year,

750
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: that your defense is good enough baseline to win ten games.

751
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: That to me is the fascinating thing to get A

752
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: and M out of that sort of eight win.

753
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: Treadmill, eight win treadmill. Oh god, yeah, now I'm with you.

754
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: I'm interested though. I mean, Evan Stewart's a guy that

755
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: I followed a little bit through recruiting and out of Texas,

756
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: you know.

757
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: Opted out of his senior year in high school.

758
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: I believe, yep, yep, so an interesting prospect to say

759
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: the least, And if he can provide them with that

760
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: kind of game breaking ability, that'd be something that A

761
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: and M is desperately needed. But like you said, we've

762
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: seen this one before. All right, your turn, what's your question?

763
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: My question I think revolves around this is another one

764
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: of my like multi team fit in this multi multiple

765
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: teams fit into this into this box is I love

766
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: the term half teams. I love the term where you

767
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: know your classic half team examples were like Texas A

768
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: and M under Cliff Kingsbury, where they're you know, putting

769
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: out the number five offense in the country in the

770
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: number one hundred and twenty five defense. I tend to

771
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: use points per drive because you know, it adjusts for situation,

772
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: and explosive plays are a positive in that. So I

773
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: love seeing who can close the gap between their own

774
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: offense and own defense. And I've got a list of

775
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: teams here that it would just be wonderful tie. And

776
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to look at teams

777
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: that you know, really struggled on defense and how you

778
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: correct that, or really struggled on offense and how you

779
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: correct that. A number of these teams, like Illinois added

780
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: utsa's offensive coordinator, they had a full on decent, if

781
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: not pretty good defense. And you can talk about the

782
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Big Ten West just in general in this space, with

783
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: what Wisconsin wasn't able to do on offense, with what

784
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: Iowa was not able to do on offense, with what

785
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota at times was not able to do on offense.

786
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: But all three of those programs for if you include

787
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: Iowa five, if you look to the other side, include

788
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Penn State, are programs that were fully lost on offense

789
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: for large swaths of twenty twenty one. So if it's

790
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: bringing in a new quarterback transfer, if it's bringing in

791
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, if it's getting a lot healthier

792
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: and have expectations reset to having at least a decent offense,

793
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: this is the time in spring, especially with new coaching

794
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: hires and new quarterback transfers in like Illinois as we

795
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: all wanted to talk about Illinois today. Of course, that

796
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: to me is pretty fascinating, right, It's the quest for

797
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: competence that begins in the spring for you, Like, is

798
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: there any reason San Diego State, located where it is,

799
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: playing against the programs that it plays, shouldn't at least

800
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: have a top sixty five offense. There's no reason that

801
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: should be the case. You should be able to find

802
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: kids in southern California and northern California, the West coast. Whatever.

803
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: San Diego State needs to stop with his nonsense of

804
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: fielding incredible defenses and complete jokes of offenses. That to

805
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: me is fascinating and hopefully it's something that's addressed in

806
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: the spring. The other programs, by the way, we mentioned

807
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: tex A and M needs a boost on offense, especially downfield. Toledo,

808
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: NC State, the offense was behind its defense pretty clearly,

809
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: Boise State near one of Andandy Avlos, Penn State we mentioned.

810
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have Penn State thoughts Nebraska. We've talked

811
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: about Southern miss but like Penn State specifically. Here's my

812
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: question and you'll get into it, and this is probably

813
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: an easy transition for you. They finished with the number

814
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: ninety eight points per drive offense last year. First year

815
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, relatively experienced starting quarterback, offensive line that was

816
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: sort of decent at protecting the quarterback but not really

817
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: opening up lanes all the time for its at least

818
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: decent running backs, had a couple of pretty interesting receivers,

819
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: and yet couldn't crack an average offensive season. That to

820
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: me is fascinating. They're like, what's going to change well

821
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: in state college, Like what if you're gonna going to

822
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: start Sean Clifford once again, which is probably the case.

823
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: I like they bring in what a top flight running back.

824
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if he enrolled early. It probably doesn't

825
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: matter at running back like that, but they bring in

826
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: the number running back, number one running back Singleton, Nicholas Singleton.

827
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: So how does how does Penn State? And this is

828
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: a question for fall camp, it's a question for the

829
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: season itself, but like this spring, like are we are

830
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: we changing something around? What are we doing here? See

831
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: Penn State? For me?

832
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm biased. Yeah, it's the program that has

833
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: among the most interesting questions as we go into spring. Sure,

834
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: really as we go into fall two again, keeping with

835
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: the theme, many of these questions are going to remain constant.

836
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but it's just a foundation thing.

837
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So Penn State last year was an interesting

838
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: spot because they were almost entirely dependent on Sean Clifford,

839
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: at least on offense. The whole thing ran through Clifford,

840
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: and we saw in that Iowa game Penn State was

841
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: going along just line until he got hurt and from

842
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: that point forward it was sort of a nose dive

843
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: on offense. The whole thing imploded on itself. That being said,

844
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: they never could really run the ball. If you go

845
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty and look at how anep they

846
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: were at running the football something like three point.

847
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: Five yards per carry. Last year.

848
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: It got a little bit better, but still not where

849
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: it needed to be. This was an offense that by

850
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: and large ran through Clifford. When he got hurt, it

851
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: went downhill. It does kind of tie back into the

852
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: offensive line, and there have been issues at that Penn

853
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: State offensive line spot for years now, years on end.

854
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: Hopefully they can resolve that. So I think first we

855
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: got to look inward at the trenches and see what

856
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: Penn State does on the offensive line. If they could

857
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: settle that situation a little bit in the springtime, maybe

858
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: we'll get some clarity there. But now projecting forward into

859
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, it gets really interesting. Singleton's a guy

860
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: who was incredibly productive coming out of high school, something

861
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: like twelve and a half yards per carry. He was

862
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: very productive. Presumably he's a guy who is ready for college.

863
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: He can step in right now and he can get

864
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: the job done, provided he's got the support up front.

865
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: I think he can give them a boost. I've said

866
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: that about other Penn State running backs before. Perhaps I'll

867
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: be proven wrong again, but I feel pretty confident that

868
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: Nicholas Singleton I'm not going to get used to calling

869
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: him Nicholas. I'm gonna want to say Nick the whole time,

870
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: but Nicholas Singleton as of now, I think he can

871
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: give him a boost at running back if he's got

872
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: the support up front. The quarterback thing, to me is

873
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: probably going to be my biggest source of frustration because

874
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: I am not now, nor ever have I been a

875
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: Clifford guy.

876
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: Right, just not.

877
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: I'm not into Shan Clifford. I never thought he was

878
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: all that good. I know he's confident. If you watch

879
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: any broadcast, the first thing they say about Sean Clifford

880
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: is that he's confident.

881
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I'm not huh.

882
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm just not so Clifford I think is going to

883
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: be the guy. It is year two under the Mike

884
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: irisicch of offense. Perhaps if he's healthy, perhaps if they

885
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: can build up the support around him, that it will

886
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: yield better results. I remain skeptical that he's the guy,

887
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: that he can stay healthy, and that they can take

888
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: that quantum leeve forward. I would love to see what

889
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: they're all world everything. Number one quarterback Drew Aller a

890
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Laire Aller. However, you say the damn kids name I

891
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: would love to see what he can do in this

892
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: offense from day one, but I don't think we will.

893
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't think we will. He has enrolled early. Perhaps

894
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: we'll see some of his talents when Penn State plays

895
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: at spring game on April to twenty third. That doesn't

896
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: even touch, by the way, on the defense, which I

897
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: know that this question isn't about defense as much, but

898
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: Brent Prye left new head football coach at Virginia Tech,

899
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: so new blood running the defense, a bunch of guys

900
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: going pro doing well at the combine. Returning production defensively

901
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: is going to be something that James Franklin has to

902
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: try and figure out. So Penn State, I think in

903
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: a bit of a tumultuous state here, not necessarily in

904
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: a negative way, but there's a lot of turnover there

905
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: and there are a lot of questions, more questions at

906
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: Penn State going into this coming season than a bunch

907
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: of other programs, and that, if nothing more, even if

908
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: you're not a Penn State or like I am, if

909
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: nothing more, that is at least interesting.

910
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by situations in which quarterbacks fully ascended during

911
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: last season to being because we've talked about like quarterback questions,

912
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: difficulties whatever quarterbacks last year? Who ascended to being you know,

913
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: capital T, Capital G the guy? And what that ceiling

914
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: that we now have to adjust, Like we have to

915
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: adjust what Bryce young ceiling is? I have no concept

916
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: he wins the Heisman Trophy as a first year starter

917
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: at Alabama without like the crazy go to receiver outside Well, no,

918
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: he had Jamison Williams, but without having that the receiving

919
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: corps with you know, doesn't have Nasee Harris. The running

920
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: back room is really good but not that crazy strong.

921
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: So like what does Bryce Young look like with a

922
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: full off season after being the guy? Like what what

923
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: does he What is his ceiling? What is CJ. Stroud's ceiling?

924
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like the guys who there was see, like

925
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: there wasn't not that much uncertain about c J. Stroud

926
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: and Bryce Young going into last year, like it was

927
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: presumed that they were going to be successful, but like

928
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: it someone like kJ Jefferson who answered basically every question.

929
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: I guess speaking of Penn State there their Bowl opponent,

930
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: like kJ Jefferson now enters into this season as when

931
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: was the last time Arkansas and Arkansas fans were this

932
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: happy and satisfied and confident in the quarterback position and offense,

933
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, bringing back Kendall Briles after he had conversation

934
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: with Miami whatever, Like what is what does a kJ

935
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: Jefferson fully realized? Now no Traylon Burks, but incomes Jayden Hazelwood,

936
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: Like what does that look like? What is what type

937
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: of player is he? And this is spring and fall,

938
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: but it starts right now when he has every reason

939
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: to believe in himself as a Heisman caliber quarterback. Hell

940
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: Tyler van dim like doesn't take over that job until

941
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: midway through the season, And is the revelation I got

942
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: him English and myself or not or not walking hand

943
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: in hand today? But like Tyler Van Daim, new coaching staff,

944
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: new coordinator, you know has you know loses? I think

945
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: it's Harley and Rambo are both gone. H Jalen Knighton

946
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: led the team in carries last year, but he's you

947
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: know what, he's the full time guy now, like in

948
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: a new offense. But there's no quarterback competition in Coral

949
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: Gables like this is the guy, this is this is

950
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: the guy right now in the acc Does anybody have

951
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: higher expectations and then a higher presumed ceiling than Tyler

952
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Van didim right now, I don't think so. I can

953
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: even we can have a Brandon Armstrong conversation, Who's looks

954
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: to be really strong once again, but new coach, new coordinator, Like,

955
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating with these guys once once they

956
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: have now that they have the confidence to know what

957
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: they're capable of. Man, I don't know, it's gonna be

958
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: wild to see. I can't wait.

959
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, having that sort of off season to affirm, confirm,

960
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: reaffirm that you're the man. Sure, that'll that'll be an

961
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: interesting thing to follow is to get into spring, you know,

962
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: kind of kind of on a similar note, we mentioned

963
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: transfers before, but I think the transfer situation that I

964
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: am most interested in his old Miss.

965
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

966
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin very notably went out and worked the portal

967
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: pretty hard. The two big signings for him were Jackson Dart,

968
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: who came over from USC. It was a logical boove

969
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: for Jackson Dart.

970
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad he went.

971
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: Yes. You'll recall the pile was screaming on the podcast,

972
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: go to old Miss, it's too simple, Go to ole Miss.

973
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: They also got Zach Evans. Zach Evans who didn't really

974
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: materialize as the five star back that many thought at TCU.

975
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: But now he goes over to old Miss, so.

976
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean he No, he flashed plenty. I think he

977
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: flashed plenty.

978
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: But in terms of like the go to who is

979
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: going to be there and take you see you to

980
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: new Heights, there was just too much uncertainty around him.

981
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: It couldn't it couldn't all be on one man shoulders,

982
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: let's put it that way. Well, and I think it

983
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: was also a personality thing. Personality It might not have

984
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: fully fit. There's nuance to that conversation. But for sure,

985
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: alas both Dart and Evans now end up at OLBYSS

986
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: and you know, it is not a slam dunk that

987
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: these guys are just gonna go out there and start producing.

988
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: It's a different system. I think there's a lot of

989
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: reason for optimism that it will work. But one question

990
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: that needs to be answered is are these just big

991
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: names on the move to the same place or are

992
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: these big names who are actually going to get there

993
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: and produce and look comfortable in a system and be

994
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: worth all the hype. This is a conversation that we

995
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: have to have more of As it relates to transfers,

996
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: you hear big names on the move, the assumption is

997
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: that I'm just gonna throw out Spencer Rattler. I think

998
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler will be great at South Carolina. I'm not

999
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: saying otherwise, but it isn't something that you can always

1000
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: assume that they're going to go to this new place

1001
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: and suddenly they're going to produce at the same level

1002
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: or and even better level. Situations change, coaching, staves are

1003
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: different staves.

1004
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.

1005
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: So I'm the The Dart and Evans situationed Old Miss

1006
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 2: is really interesting to me. I think it will work

1007
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: out handsomely. I'm very excited to see what Lane Kiffin

1008
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: can do, but I don't know if we're at a

1009
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: point where we can assume as much as a sure thing.

1010
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's it's not a full on

1011
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: savior situation like I think Spencer Ratler is being viewed

1012
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: at it at South Carolina. I mean, I think it's

1013
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: just gonna be a no brainer success Jackson Dart at

1014
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: Old Miss, given Lane Kiffin's track record, given what we

1015
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: just see in the sport, if you want to succeed

1016
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: the first thing you have to do is leave USC.

1017
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: When you look at Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarksian, we'll see

1018
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: with Keiden Slow didn't work out, Max Brown making that movie,

1019
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: that's okay. But Jackson dart ed Orgeron, it's just now

1020
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: it didn't work out long term for Orizon, but he

1021
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: did win a national championship. So that's the move. I

1022
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: mean you go back to, oh, what was the Jarvis Jones?

1023
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: I think couldn't get medically cleared at USC and shines

1024
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: at Georgia. Like, first thing you gotta do, get out,

1025
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: get out of us, set out of get out of

1026
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: sc and get that out of your system, and then

1027
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: you go succeed.

1028
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

1029
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a no brainer.

1030
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume as much. But I do think

1031
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: with more guys on the move, it's look, we're going

1032
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: to see. We're going to see situations where it doesn't

1033
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: work out. I don't think this will be one of them,

1034
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: but I think it's fair.

1035
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: To ask the question.

1036
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: The other thing I'll throw out there, you know, kind

1037
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: of on the topic of transfers and maybe not working out.

1038
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: But we did touch on LSU briefly before. But Jane

1039
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: Daniels right, big time prospect, big time transfer news. Here

1040
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks, Jane Daniels announces that

1041
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: he's going to LSU. That's a crowded quarterback room. It's

1042
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: crowded quarterback room. Miles Brennan's still there, Garrett s Meyer

1043
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: still there. I don't know if he factors in it all.

1044
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 2: Walker Howard, big time recruit. That Brian Kelly was able

1045
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: to lock down when he came on campus. So that's

1046
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: like four guys if you include Jane Daniels. And I'm

1047
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: probably gonna annoy people by saying this, I'm gonna say

1048
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: it all summer. I'll probably end up saying it all

1049
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 2: fall to but Brian Kelly in these situation it's always

1050
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: a good problem to have when you have a bunch

1051
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: of qualified quarterbacks, it's always a good problem to have.

1052
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: You want that Brian Kelly is not.

1053
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Good in these situations.

1054
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: He's not good in these situations until he accidentally falls

1055
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: into a guy. And you could say that that sort

1056
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: of happened with Ian Book, sort of happened with the

1057
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: Sean Kaiser, But really Book was the only stable situation

1058
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: and that's because there weren't any other guys that he

1059
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: could really go to. No one else made sense. So

1060
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: I am interested in getting more information via the springtime

1061
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: about that quarterback situation at LSU. I would assume nothing.

1062
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: If I were an LSU fan, I would assume absolute nothing.

1063
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: Don't assume that it's Jane Daniels or Miles Brandon or

1064
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: Garrett nes Meyer or even anybody on the roster at

1065
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: this point, right. I just don't think Bka is good

1066
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: in these situations. So yeah, I'd love a little bit

1067
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 2: more information there. I don't know what we can make

1068
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: of it, even if we get it in the springtime,

1069
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: But just keep your eyes on that situation, because that

1070
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: could get really hairy.

1071
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: It's just it's just his m O. Can I give

1072
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: you some half teams that are desperate for defense and

1073
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: how you think that might be a differing fix it

1074
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: solution than teams who on all offense. You like, you

1075
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: can say it's scheme, you can say it's quarterback is

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Speaker 1: the immediate fix right, because there are so many transfers

1077
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: on the move for defense. Defense. Excuse me? These are

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Speaker 1: some of the teams.

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Speaker 2: Are these the teams that you labeled needs the D.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you you changed that in the document, but

1081
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: you know whatever, I didn't put that in there. So

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: Ohio State we know the change, We know the hiring

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00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: of Jim Knowles. We know that the defense and the

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00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: scheme was just not going to work out under Kerry Comb,

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: and we knew that in twenty twenty, but it was

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00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: really taken advantage of by teams like Oregon Michigan during

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season, culminating in a Utah shootouts

1088
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: in Utah is a very good team that really gashed

1089
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State. So we know Ohio State, Western Kentucky. That

1090
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: was I think more of a product of having just

1091
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: an incredible offense that scored quickly and left the defense

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: on the field a lot. Wake Forest kind of a

1093
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: similar situation. They just don't didn't have the manpower on defense.

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00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: UCLA seemed like it was going to be a really

1095
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: promising season after that LSU game, but they got gashed

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: all the time over the course that season. They make

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: a change at defensive coordinator Jerry Asnaro's in It's now

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Speaker 1: I don't have his name in front of me. It's

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00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: an NFL guy that Chip Kelly brought in to take

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Speaker 1: over the defense, and they lose a bunch on defense

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00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: to transfer UCLA does Oklahoma we know all about you

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00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: know the change there. You bring in ted Roof, you

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: get yourself a defense, you get a leaky roof. Yeah,

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: now you bring in brand venables, and you presume that

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: the defense is going to improve, that there is going

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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: to be a very specific, more successful vision. Oregon another

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00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: one of those teams that really did struggle on defense,

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Speaker 1: especially at the end of the year. You look at

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00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: those Utah games getting pushed around the way that they

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00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: were not necessarily upfront, but just Utah eventually kind of

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00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: did whatever they wanted to do against this Oregon team. Texas,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much I need to talk about

1113
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: the Texas defense. This is a family show. Oregon State

1114
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: looked to be incredibly inventive and efficient on offense. The

1115
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: defense was nowhere near holding up its end of the bargain.

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00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: North Carolina took a huge step back. Virginia was a nightmare.

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: Texas Tech obviously makes the coaching change, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens there. To you though, how does a defense

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00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: go from one hundred and twenty third in the nation

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninth in the nation, ninety seventh in

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Speaker 1: the nation to fifty third, forty sixth something like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, it's talent. Secondly, it's coaching, and thirdly,

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Speaker 2: in the case of someone like a Texas, it's fundamentals. Sure,

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Speaker 2: it's fundamentals. Texas has not been good at these fundamentals

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Speaker 2: now for five years running. They miss too many tackles

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Speaker 2: in the open field. Defense, more than anything, is an

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: effort play. You've got to get somebody out there who

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Speaker 2: can motivate the troops. You've obviously got to get the

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Speaker 2: talent if you're playing at a Power five level that

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Speaker 2: can compete. But you know, only so much of it

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: is scheme. I think oftentimes we factor in scheme, but

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00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: there's so much more that goes into it that I

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: think Texas is a really good example of it. Coach

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00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: Quits a pretty good coach, people like coach Koukowski. Yeah,

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00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: but you got to tackle, you got to execute when

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Speaker 2: you're out there, and so I think that's a big

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: part of it. Frankly, finding a way to motivate the troops.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty Texas defense is actually pretty good. Otherwise

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: it's been average lately, but really, Texas is one of

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00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: those schools because as you mentioned, it's a talent thing,

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00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: it's a mentality thing, it's an effort thing. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think you're going to see a lot more

1143
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: pro who are not recruiting on the huge level really

1144
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: mine the depths of other schools the portal G five, fcs, whatever,

1145
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: Because if you can target any good offense, can say

1146
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: that middle linebacker is nowhere near good enough be playing

1147
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: for that team. That edge guy we're just gonna run

1148
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Speaker 1: at because he has a total liability against the run.

1149
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: Like it is so easy to spot these guys and

1150
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: spot them quickly, especially if their second third whatever, walk

1151
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Speaker 1: on whatever string they are. That I think that's where

1152
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: you're going to see a number of smart teams that

1153
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: need dramatic defensive help hit the portal for depth for

1154
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: guys who are clearly playing with a certain mentality it

1155
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Speaker 1: takes to succeed, because you see these these programs and like, okay,

1156
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: defensive tackles six three, three thirty five and then he

1157
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: just gets blown off the ball. You're like, well it's

1158
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: not good enough, right, he's not playing with that right

1159
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: mentality he's not playing with the effort. He just he's

1160
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: not good enough. And so you can make the changes

1161
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: with the same guys on offense. To me, maybe not

1162
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: with offensive line, but with scheme, with running backs, with receivers,

1163
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: with tight ends, even with quarterbacks playing in systems that

1164
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: need to be overhauled. You can fix that with the

1165
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Speaker 1: same guys. You don't see it a lot on defense.

1166
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: You don't see a wholesale, dramatic improvement year to year

1167
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: without seniors out, freshmen in guys you know, they were

1168
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: down seven guys to season ending injuries. They're back and

1169
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: they're solidifying things, or a team hitting the portal to say, okay,

1170
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: now we have three good outside linebackers. Now we have

1171
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Speaker 1: two decent safeties. Now we have two competent defensive tackles,

1172
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Speaker 1: and we didn't last year. That's where I think that

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Speaker 1: just the overhauling of the depth chart makes a lot

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Speaker 1: more of a difference.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, I have a number of other questions here that

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Speaker 2: I jotted down. I don't think we have time to

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Speaker 2: go into all of these, but certainly we welcome any

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Speaker 2: fee back we can get.

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Speaker 1: From the verballer hood. Sure.

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Speaker 2: Soliverbal at Gmail dot com. As always, we will post

1181
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Speaker 2: a clip of this episode out on our YouTube channel

1182
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: at YouTube dot com slash the soliverbal. Please feel free

1183
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: to comment down below let us know what your questions

1184
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: are as we head into springtime. Also over at verballers

1185
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: dot com. Look, we've talked about at time and again

1186
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: this really isn't intended as a sales pitch more of

1187
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: just like an important bulletin for passionate verbaalers that I

1188
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Speaker 2: know are out there.

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Speaker 1: The discord server.

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Speaker 2: Has been popping off here even in the offseason. Even

1191
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: in the off season, we've got people talking college football,

1192
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: anything new that pops up. I've been using our own

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Speaker 2: discord as a news source for myself because I can't

1194
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Speaker 2: stay on top of all these things. You can't either,

1195
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Speaker 2: There's just too much going on.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Our people who are out there on discord in at

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Speaker 2: verballers dot com, they are doing God's work by helping

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Speaker 2: us out, contributing to the show, letting us know what's

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01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: going on in the college football world. So if nothing more,

1201
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: it's a great way to stay connected to the college

1202
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: football community and other people who like the Soliverbal. Again,

1203
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Speaker 2: that's at Verbolers dot com and one.

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Speaker 1: Other way that you can help out here in the

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: off season.

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Speaker 2: Yes, tell your friends, man, tell your friends, right, subscribe

1207
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: to the show. Let's get some new ears here. Help

1208
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Speaker 2: us continue growing this community as we build towards the

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,959
Speaker 2: college football season in twenty twenty two. Got some months

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Speaker 2: to go and we're hard at work behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: But the more the merrier, you know the drill.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you one final question involving spring practice

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Speaker 1: and big time college football? Please? What classes do we

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Speaker 1: think Stetson Bennett is taking currently? Like? Okay, I would

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: say it is likely that Stetson Bennett is pursuing some

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01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: sort of meaningful graduate degree, right that he is like

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01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett wants to someday be a dentist and is

1218
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: taking classes to pursue that dream, or getting his MBA,

1219
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: or is getting his masters in. I don't know, Cantonese,

1220
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: who knows, But also the possibility is there and I

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01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: have just obviously done no research on this, that stets

1222
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: And Bennett is taking the matt Liner ballroom dancing tecked

1223
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Speaker 1: this like free year essentially after winning the national championship,

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Speaker 1: And you know, lifelong Georgia fan decides to come back

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Speaker 1: for one last hurrive after summitting the mountain is Stetson Bennett?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is he taking a class about doctor Mario? Is he

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: studying Papa shot design?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What is he doing with his time in this final

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: in this final session at Georgia? That to me is

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Speaker 1: the dream, that's the like he is just I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the easiest classes are. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the most creative fun classes are at Georgia. Like is

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: he doing like bowling? Three? Is he getting a master's

1236
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: in bowling? I can't wait to learn this answer, if

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: it is a good one.

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Speaker 2: His Wikipedia page currently says that he's five nine and

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: a half, oh, which I don't believe is accurate unless

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01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: something happened dramatically in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: You think he's shorter than five nine and a half. No, no, no, no, no,

1242
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Speaker 1: no no no no.

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm saying Wikipedia is not an official source

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Speaker 2: for citation.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay? What is his What is his degree in?

1246
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea and a major?

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Speaker 1: I don't you know. Could you imagine the time that

1248
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: you would have already winning a national championship for Georgia

1249
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: coming back with like well, we'll see what happens for

1250
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: s's and g's and you're just king of the campus.

1251
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Speaker 1: Former walk on, great story and you just sort of coast.

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Speaker 2: You just glide me a final hurrah, you last hurrah.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I don't know what I would take. I

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Speaker 1: took a golf class at all? Did you just fun? Yeah?

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01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do we decide we're going to go golfing at some point,

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Speaker 2: even like a part of three course?

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Speaker 1: Right, We're going to do that soon? I would love to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I really want to go to top golf

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Speaker 1: because that brings the full tendos with tie. Is there

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Speaker 1: a top golf near you?

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Speaker 2: I think within an hour, within forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Sure you can make that. I'm happy to go to

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Speaker 1: an executive course, go to a local like par three MUNI. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a season frize, don't. I don't need anything fancy, right?

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Speaker 1: But yeah? Oh so did you take any just fun

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Speaker 1: fluff class at the Pennsylvania State University.

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Speaker 2: I accidentally ended up taking the same class three times. Okay,

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Speaker 2: tell me about it, and I got credits for it

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Speaker 2: all three times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was in a major that was relatively new and

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Speaker 2: changed the classification of one class several times. Oh, there

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Speaker 2: was not really a block in the system though that

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Speaker 2: prevented me from taking it multiple times. And because they

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Speaker 2: kept changing the name of it each year, it sort

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Speaker 2: of presented as a new elective in the major, and

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Speaker 2: so I kept taking it because I liked the instructor,

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Speaker 2: only to find out when I got there.

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Speaker 1: That it was the same class. Great progressively got worse

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Speaker 1: each time you took it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the third time around, there was definitely a

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Speaker 2: sidebar discussion between me and the professor, like, yo, so

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Speaker 2: I got to be here for this?

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Speaker 1: So that that was it a computer science class? What

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Speaker 1: was it now?

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Speaker 2: It was I would say intro to Technology? Okay, so

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Speaker 2: it was very much a one hundred level class that

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Speaker 2: kept getting reclassified. Yeah, that worked out well for me.

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Speaker 2: I was pleased with that scenario.

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 2: I did have some other fluff classes that I took

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Speaker 2: along the way, but that's probably the most notable. How

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Speaker 2: about you, No, it was just the golf one. The

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Speaker 2: golf one was the big one. My path at Organ

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Speaker 2: was not after like taking the econ classes early on. Oh,

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Speaker 2: was I bad an econ micro macro you name it was?

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Speaker 1: I bad. But as soon as I started taking all

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Speaker 1: the journalism classes, you know, both before getting into the

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Speaker 1: JA school and then in the JA school, that was

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Speaker 1: a great time. Uh golf, Uh did I take anything

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Speaker 1: else that was fluffy? No, just went over a golf

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Speaker 1: course and one day we'd be like, here's how you

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Speaker 1: chip have fun. Yeah, here's here's how you put go

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 2: I took a fitness walking class.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, how'd you do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was pretty much past fail.

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Speaker 1: But that was easy. Do you know that the one

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Speaker 1: of the pre eminent authors in that space fitness walking,

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Speaker 1: his name is Dan Rubinstein, And I get tweets intended

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Speaker 1: for him all the time. Why don't we Why don't

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Speaker 1: we leave it at that?

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Speaker 2: It? Can we bring him on as an off topic show?

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Speaker 1: That would be so great, Like, honestly, if all of

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Speaker 1: the things, of all the things, of all the tie

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Speaker 1: hilden brands out there, if all the Dan Rube Einstein's

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Speaker 1: out there a proponent of walking to improve your fitness

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Speaker 1: and physical and mental health, it's kind of as like

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Speaker 1: great as it gets to me, like I don't see

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Speaker 1: this guy going down any sort of terrible path that

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Speaker 1: I'm confused for this, you know, horrible horrible person like

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Speaker 1: that's a great, great uh name sharer guy. It's great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to DM him, we can

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Speaker 2: bring him on on a Ver Buller's only off topic

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Speaker 2: show one of these days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, folks, thank you so much for downloading,

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Speaker 2: for listening, for playing along at home. You know where

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Speaker 2: to find us. Leave your spring questions with us. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: we'll address them on one of our upcoming brewin A

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Speaker 2: or Q and A episodes. In the meantime, we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of planning to do before we get to

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Speaker 2: March the seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: This Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We've got a thematic show that we're very excited about.

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Speaker 2: We've got guests, we've got all sort We put way

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Speaker 2: more research into this than you would have expected, so

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Speaker 2: we are thrilled. We've got work that we need to

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Speaker 2: do before Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Fear is round.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, always, in forever, stay solid Peace,