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Speaker 1: Thirty birds, What's Up and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's I'm Your Host Will McFadden,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Tory mclaney and Sarren Walk. We

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Speaker 1: are coming to you, guys after a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a hiatus. We were down in Miami covering joint practices,

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Speaker 1: the first preseason game, all of that good stuff, ironing

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Speaker 1: out some travel with the podcast, so we'll hopefully get

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Speaker 1: everything buttoned up by the time the regular season rolls around.

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Speaker 1: But we also felt like giving the injury news, it

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Speaker 1: would make sense to kind of hold everything until we

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Speaker 1: got a little bit more clarity on DeMarco Hellms, Braylan Trice,

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Speaker 1: how everything was going to shake out. We know stuff

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Speaker 1: about Brayln Trice, we don't know anything about DeMarco Hellams yet,

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Speaker 1: so say anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rahem did give us a little bit of an

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Speaker 2: update this morning. He did say that he was going

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Speaker 2: to miss a significant amount of time quote unquote, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go, which I think that's telling because and

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Speaker 2: he said it was an ankle injury. He did confirm that, yes,

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Speaker 2: And I think that's telling the fact that Okay, here

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Speaker 2: we sit at and I'm going to at twelve thirty

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Speaker 2: five on Monday, August twelfth, and he hasn't been placed

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Speaker 2: on IR, even though Raheem Morris is saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a significant period of time, and there are reports

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Speaker 2: about the Falcons bringing in some safeties across the league

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Speaker 2: to work out. There are reports out there, so I

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Speaker 2: think that that just goes to show that it's telling.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not a like I feel like a Jeff

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Speaker 2: Okuda situation from last year where we thought it was really,

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Speaker 2: really bad and then he only missed the first four

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Speaker 2: or five weeks of the season and was able to

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 3: If you do or do not think it's going to

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Speaker 3: be like that, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think it may be a little bit more serious

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Speaker 1: So do you think, like on the spectrum of going

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Speaker 1: on IR done for the season and Jeff okudah.

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Speaker 4: Somewhere in the middle, it's okay, So we're.

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Speaker 1: Looking, you know, and this is all speculation right right,

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Speaker 1: But my mind then goes to like week eight, nine, ten, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Spend a long time though I don't. I don't, And

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Speaker 3: that's you know, I need a definition of significant in

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Speaker 3: this regarding.

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Speaker 2: Magnificant amount of time quote Raheem Morris. Yeah, so who's

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Speaker 2: to say, I don't know. All we know is that

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Speaker 2: that Raheem Moore said, it's a significant amount of time.

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Speaker 2: It's an ankle injury, and the Falcons are reportedly reportedly

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Speaker 2: working out.

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Speaker 4: A guy like Justin Simmons. Yes, according to Ian Rappaport.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I mean that that would make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. You do still have Richie Grant and Jesse

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Speaker 1: but losing to Marco for a significant amount of time

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Speaker 1: is going to be costly. So that is where you

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Speaker 1: look at bringing in potential help in whatever role you

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Speaker 1: kind of envisioned for DeMarco. But let's turn our attention

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Speaker 1: to Brailn Trice and it tear and it sucks that

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Speaker 1: like Braylan is going to miss the year because I

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Speaker 1: think anybody who's listening to this podcast knows that we

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Speaker 1: have been really excited and enjoying watching Brailin out there

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Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, walk us through kind of

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Speaker 1: like what you think about that?

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Speaker 3: So this news came out what day is today? Today

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Speaker 3: is Monday? Yesterday, Sunday? That Brailn Trice is going to

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Speaker 3: be put on the reserve slash injured list along with

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Speaker 3: the defensive bag Harrison Hand. So those two are confirmed.

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Speaker 3: Those we know for sure. It's not speculation.

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Speaker 4: With Rondel Moore, who we talked about that.

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Speaker 3: Was week Yeah, different transaction, but yes, I'm taking him

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Speaker 3: one bite at a time. Here, Corey turns like, I

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Speaker 3: can only do my calendar. My mental vision right now

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Speaker 3: is the calendar that was in yesterday. I didn't write

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Speaker 3: about that yesterday, but yes, that is a big bummer

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Speaker 3: for Braylin. It was really early on in the game too.

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Speaker 3: I noticed when Harrison Hand left practice on Wednesday because

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Speaker 3: can't say I was surprised. Braylan wasn't necessarily surprised. I

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Speaker 3: but you do see that people are already stepping in

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Speaker 3: And Jerry Gray was saying the same thing when it

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Braylin that I'm going to stick

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Speaker 2: on for a minute is it's really unfortunate because you

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Speaker 2: maturation process to him that I think starting from where

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Speaker 2: someone who I would not have been surprised if Braylin

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Speaker 4: If not before then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was going to play an incredibly heavy role

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Jacques Smith, who is the outside

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, we're having a conversation about how coach Smith

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Speaker 2: feels as though Braylan from a rookie perspective, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: where you would think a rookie pass rusher would be.

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Speaker 4: That's that's really really.

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Speaker 2: Important when you're talking about someone who could come in

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Speaker 4: So for all of those reasons, it sucks. It just

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Speaker 2: And the knee gibbs, and there's there's just not there's

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Speaker 2: no there's nothing to say about it that's good. There's

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Speaker 2: I really do think that based on the nature of

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Speaker 2: this adds it should add a specific heat to Arnold

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Speaker 2: Abukhetti's fire because we have been talking at least I

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Speaker 3: We have too. Like from he should be that guy, right.

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Speaker 2: He The The point is that, like Arnold Abacatti, like,

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Speaker 2: now is the time. If there's ever going to be

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Speaker 4: The time is nigh.

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Speaker 2: And I really do think that when it comes, when

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Speaker 2: it all boils down to it, Braylan Trice I thought

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Speaker 3: I thought he was going to be the guy.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was having a better camp. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I would say that to to anybody. The problem is

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Speaker 2: Abacatty gonna do about it? I would love to see

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Speaker 2: kind of him take this and be like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Yeah this sucks. Braylan Trice was was playing well, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going to show you that I Am going to

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I mean you look at at the current roster

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Speaker 3: Bradley and I was out there today getting certificate reps

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but that's four, that's four guys and so

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Speaker 4: James Smith Williams too, but he.

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Speaker 1: Did have some of these reps where yeah, he's dropping

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Speaker 1: back into Covent, you see it, But he's he's not

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Speaker 1: I think, not that he was going to be a

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Speaker 1: my mind goes to and it's what we've been talking

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Speaker 1: their versatility. Do you maybe find ways to put Kaden

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the way j D. Bertrand handled

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Speaker 2: Something else that they were doing today that I really

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Speaker 2: it just goes to show that, like pass rush can

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Speaker 5: The end edge setting, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that to your point, like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about you know, Cayden getting back to kind

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Speaker 2: of what his roots are as an outside linebacker edge

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is how we see all three of them

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could be right, like you want to

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Speaker 1: get your best eleven out there on the field, and

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Speaker 1: I think Braylan was the reason we're so highest because

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Speaker 1: he was working himself into that top eleven conversation and

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Speaker 1: of times you get that with guys.

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Speaker 5: Here we are we're just blowing the lid off of it.

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Speaker 1: But you get that with guys sometimes you are thinking

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Speaker 1: get them on your practice squad when they've really flashed

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Speaker 1: and let's go ahead and touch on quickly our takeaways

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Speaker 1: But Tory will start with you, were there any big,

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Speaker 1: like picture takeaways from this game that you wanted to

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Speaker 4: Yes, defensive line.

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Speaker 2: I was very pleased with what I saw from Contavious Street,

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Speaker 1: It was Grady Jarrett esqu almost because he did the

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Speaker 1: He looks like tearing this up your alley, Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 3: So that was fun. But I also Will and I

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Speaker 1: Like Will does not have a case of the Mondays.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Taren, we have new game taps

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Speaker 5: We're going to break that out of you, Dren.

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Speaker 3: He was like, there's a smile on his face before

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Speaker 1: You know how much like rams tape from like week

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Speaker 2: So something that I thought was really interesting to your

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Speaker 2: It was like there were some timing issues, there were

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Speaker 4: I need to do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm in learning. I need to be better. I need

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Speaker 3: both of them were very accountable in their postgame press conferences,

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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 1: Mean even Raheem said, really there was just like one

441
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Speaker 1: ball that Mike would probably want back, which is indicative

442
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Speaker 1: of a good game and what I saw kind of

443
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Speaker 1: on film to your point to worry about the ball

444
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Speaker 1: specifically to Casey, so that first one on the right

445
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Speaker 1: sideline where he puts the ball like right on the

446
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 1: fifty and even in the moment I think I tweeted this,

447
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 1: it looks like Casey if he had just kind of

448
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: kept running under the ball is there and catches it

449
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Speaker 1: in stride, he's almost expecting a little.

450
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Speaker 5: Bit of a back shouldered ball.

451
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Speaker 1: But what Mike Michael Pennick saw was all right, he's

452
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Speaker 1: on top of the corner. I'm going to throw it

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Speaker 1: out in front of him and let him run under

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Speaker 1: it on the sideline and keep going. And we saw

455
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Speaker 1: the exact same play with Chris Blair, same ball, same outcome.

456
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Speaker 1: It's just that's a teaching moment for Casey. Now there's

457
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Speaker 1: another connection that they missed that I put a little

458
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Speaker 1: bit more on Michael Pennix, and it comes off of

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Speaker 1: a play action outside stretch zone to the right. The

460
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Speaker 1: defense thinks they're going to do it and boot back

461
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Speaker 1: to the left because Michael Penix is a lefty, so

462
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Speaker 1: he runs that play action, he starts to kind of

463
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Speaker 1: boot and then he stops and Casey, as soon as

464
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Speaker 1: the dB is turning to run back the other way,

465
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Speaker 1: breaks it out to the right sideline. Michael Penix is

466
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Speaker 1: just a tick slow, and that's the ball that ultimately

467
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Speaker 1: is carried out of bounds and it's ruled out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: If he lets that ball maybe half a second sooner go,

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Speaker 1: that's a completion, and that's a beautiful completion because it's

470
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Speaker 1: a thirty five yard ball on a rope from Michael Pennox.

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Speaker 1: But by and large, I thought it was really quick,

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Speaker 1: coming off of reads that weren't there, knowing where his

473
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Speaker 1: other routes in the progression were, and just snapping seeing it,

474
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Speaker 1: letting it go. And I mean everybody, I think in

475
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Speaker 1: the kind of NFL Twitter community after that first game

476
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Speaker 1: has been like, all right, Michael Pennix, like this is

477
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Speaker 1: what we expected to see.

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Speaker 5: This looks good.

479
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Speaker 1: So that should really, I think encourage Falcons fans that

480
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are seeing right now from Michael Pennix.

481
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Speaker 1: What the Falcons saw back in April and even before

482
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Speaker 1: that during the draft process is probably like told Jill, yeah, right,

483
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: he's pretty happy right now. But I think that that

484
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: was Kevin King probably deserves a little bit of a

485
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Speaker 1: mention here to where you want to touch on him

486
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Speaker 1: just quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's someone who has not played in a pro game,

488
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Speaker 2: in an NFL game for two seasons.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't tell, could have fooled me.

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Speaker 2: He I recommend people go back and listen to his

491
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Speaker 2: postgame press conference. I actually felt like just from a

492
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Speaker 2: person to person standpoint, may let alone the fact that

493
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Speaker 2: he had a good performance and he's someone who's fighting

494
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Speaker 2: for a roster spot, and you know everything that he's

495
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Speaker 2: gone through, the fact that he stood up there and

496
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Speaker 2: was talking about the things of the game that he

497
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Speaker 2: missed and how important it was for him to go

498
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Speaker 2: out there, and how even in a week one preseason

499
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Speaker 2: game and y'all know how I feel about the preseason.

500
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Speaker 4: I hate it. He had this moment.

501
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Speaker 2: On the field where it was almost like an accumulation

502
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Speaker 2: of the last couple of years of work and trying

503
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: to get back into the league, and he said, I

504
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: felt home.

505
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he finally felt Wow.

506
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Speaker 5: Right, that's all skills. Yeah.

507
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Speaker 3: Oh god, But that's a joke I would make. Come

508
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Speaker 3: on now, I.

509
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Speaker 5: Mean that sincerely. That was not a joke. That's the

510
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 5: most sincere thing I have ever said said on this podcast.

511
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was a pun.

512
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Speaker 5: It was.

513
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Speaker 2: He was very I was pleasantly pleased by what we've

514
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Speaker 2: seen from him, especially enjoining practices and especially in that

515
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Speaker 2: preseason game. And yeah, I mean, just again, from a

516
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Speaker 2: human moment, that was that was very nice.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, for him, people always mention the injuries. He's

518
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Speaker 3: coming back from an injury. He's coming back from an

519
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Speaker 3: injury that first season he took off was for mental

520
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: health reasons, and so to think like you were in

521
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 3: a place where mentally you could not compete. You were like,

522
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be a part of this, Like

523
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: your career, your dream, you don't want to be a

524
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Speaker 3: part of it. To take a whole season off and

525
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: they be like, Okay, I'm back, I'm comfortable with myself.

526
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm ready to do this. I'm strong enough to do

527
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: this again. Only to get injured that is another push

528
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: and like your progress mentally, like yes, physically too, But

529
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: to think like everyone I will say, like I think

530
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: coming back from the mental break is bigger than maybe

531
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Speaker 3: the injury, because injuries happened to athletes, But he took

532
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Speaker 3: himself out of the game, and I recommend listening to

533
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 3: his press conference. He also, after he got injured last year,

534
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: put this long YouTube video out. I watched it when

535
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: the Falcon signed him to like understand why he took off,

536
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: and he's super candid. I'm prett sure he's just in

537
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: his car, but he's super candid about the entire experience

538
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: and like what a place he was in the year

539
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: before mentally as to why he took a step away

540
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Speaker 3: and it's just I don't know, it's the stories like

541
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: that though. You're like, you go, kid.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you hope that because the Falcons have

543
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: a lot of those types of guys on this team, right,

544
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: it's actually wild Kevin King, Kirk Cousins, Grady Jared, a

545
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: lot of guys kind of coming back from Eddie Goldman

546
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: as a perfect example of like these guys that have

547
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Speaker 1: been through trials and tribulations.

548
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Speaker 5: Michael Pennix.

549
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Speaker 1: Part of the reason they really like Michael Pennix because

550
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: he came back from two pretty tough injuries early in

551
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Speaker 1: his career and then he leads Washington and does everything

552
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: that he does there. So you're I wonder if that

553
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: kid is going to be a mentally tough team. If

554
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Speaker 1: that's you know, Raheema said he wants the identity to

555
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: be forged out on the field. Maybe a lot of

556
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: these guys, maybe it's a mentally tough team. Who knows, Tarry,

557
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Speaker 1: You're riding the camp report for today Monday's practice. What

558
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Speaker 1: did you see out there?

559
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Speaker 3: Well, we're lating with DeMarco Holmes because I think that's

560
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: the news of the day, and but other than that,

561
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: there were like some really standout moments when it came

562
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: to the secondary, I thought, I thought it was interesting.

563
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: Drake London had a tougher day, which we haven't seen

564
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: him necessarily struggle this camp, but the three balls he

565
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: got were broken up and I could tell he was

566
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 3: getting frustrated because you could just hear him yelling, but

567
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: him in the eyes being like, ah, came over here, Terence,

568
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 3: and I could hear him. But what was interesting is

569
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Speaker 3: like then toward the end of practice, you could see

570
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins working directly with Drake and he would like

571
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: Kirk would like jog a route and be like, this

572
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: is how I want you, like stand like this, look

573
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: at me like this, and then they would run it.

574
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Speaker 1: And we just talked about the importance of that with

575
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Speaker 1: Casey Washington, Michael Pennox right like bang bang, That's why

576
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: Matt and Julio like for years they like they developed

577
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: that type of chemistry. You could talk about Marvin Harrison

578
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning like that is important knowing, hey, when

579
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: you see this, we're seeing it the exact same way

580
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Speaker 1: from different vantage points.

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that was like that was just kind

582
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: of seeing Kirk the teacher in action, and I really

583
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Speaker 3: loved that moment between them. Other than that, I really

584
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Speaker 3: thought copyright Anthony. Oh sorry, Anthony Johnson stood out a lot.

585
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Speaker 2: I also wrote down everywhere.

586
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Hand on mall, hand on mall.

587
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: I wrote down Anthony Johnson's name during joint practices. I

588
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Speaker 2: wrote his name down during the pre season game, and

589
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: I wrote it down again today.

590
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 5: Yes, it's like a girl third grade, just like Anthony Johnson.

591
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: I'm a number, so I have all their numbers in

592
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: my mind. Forty three. You're great.

593
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Speaker 2: I love watching him play, the physicality of which he

594
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: brings because he's a bigger We talked about this what

595
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: last week during joint practices.

596
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Speaker 4: He's a bigger body dB, like a lot bigger of

597
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: a body.

598
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: He almost has like a linebacker type of build. And

599
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: I just too two of five. Yeah, I think we

600
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: did this exact same thing last week.

601
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Speaker 3: Or you're just having deja vu maybe, but.

602
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Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoy watching him play and the physicality of

603
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: which he brings, the body type of which he brings.

604
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 4: I don't know.

605
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: He's kind of a sleeper for me over the course

606
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: of the last week that I think where people should

607
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: be talking about. I know we've talked a lot about

608
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Kevin King, Antonio Hamilton, and those guys are getting a

609
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: lot of reps. I think even Antonio Hamilton was getting

610
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: some some slot work today, which which I found to

611
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: be very interesting, as Clark Phillips was working more outside

612
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: and you know all that kind of stuff.

613
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: Start had a good practice.

614
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Start did have a good practice and again Clark Clark

615
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: Phillips continue this these dbs. I think competition is really

616
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: really heating up with this group as we're getting because

617
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: the DB's that's a group that you are okay to

618
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: carry more of them usually, especially if you're considering, like okay,

619
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: we want some of them to play more on special teams.

620
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: Like how that's how kickoff body is.

621
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Speaker 2: Changing and what they're needing to supplement the rules, all

622
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Like I think that this group

623
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: of DB's there's a lot of fiery competition that's happening,

624
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: and I've thoroughly enjoyed watching them play out there.

625
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 3: And there's opportunity. I think that's the key thing, Like

626
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: it's not just fighting for depth. There are starting roles

627
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: open except for a cornerback because I got it.

628
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: But the podcast, we have to tell the people what

629
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: happened today? During Raheem's presser, at the very very end,

630
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: he was joking about how oh, like you know, y'all

631
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: keep asking me who's going to start opposite A. J.

632
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: Trerell And he just kind of laughed, and then Terearn

633
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: pipes up. She goes, so who is it? And he goes, you,

634
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: Terarren been looking real good out there.

635
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: That's all he's been waiting for is one person in

636
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: the team meeting room to be like, coach, I'll do it.

637
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knew Mikey's cork phillips?

638
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: You guys like just say.

639
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: It was a big inside linebacker during my powder Puff days?

640
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: Nice Teraron whack with a sack?

641
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

642
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: What were you a Brian or lackertype or a Dion Jones?

643
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: She goes, this is my favorite thing is throwing Aren

644
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: just like as much as I can and just seeing

645
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: how iron Shurpent's iron Terarren, No, So I I love that.

646
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I think that the secondary we kind of talked about

647
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: this during the game is like the the amount of

648
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: coaching knowledge and just intelligence in that room, Like you

649
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: should expect some of these guys to have maybe the

650
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: best years of their career, right because of the wealth

651
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: of knowledge just that they have at their disposal. So

652
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: if we're talking about like a known household name and

653
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people are looking at maybe like Edge

654
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Rusher or that second cornerback spot and saying, well, there's

655
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: not somebody that that I know, there's not a Patrick

656
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Peterson or somebody there doesn't have to be because and

657
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: Raheem said it today, like they take a lot of

658
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Speaker 1: pride in getting rookies and getting kind of lesser known

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Speaker 1: players up to snuff, like getting them to get the

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Speaker 1: best ball possible out of them, Like that is what

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Speaker 1: a coach is here to do. And I think they

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Speaker 1: love and relish that challenge. And you can't really quibble

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Speaker 1: with the results so far. I think in Miami they

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Speaker 1: held up really well against the Dolphins receivers in one

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Speaker 1: on ones. I mean they gave up that one long

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Speaker 1: touchdown to Tyrek Hill. Seventeen teams on their seventeen game

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Speaker 1: schedule are going to do that, I'll bet this year

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Speaker 1: because he's Tyreek Hill. But I've been really impressed with them.

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Speaker 1: And I watched the offensive line today because I kept

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Speaker 1: turning around watching the video screen. It was the first

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Speaker 1: time that I've really done that so far in camp.

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Speaker 1: I love doing and like I was just like, let

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Speaker 1: me watch this offensive line because it's hard to see

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Speaker 1: from the sideline, especially at ground level. And I thought

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Speaker 1: that the interior, specifically Drew dolmend and Matthew Bergeron had

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Speaker 1: awesome days. Like I yes, And I think that Matthew

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Speaker 1: Bergeron has been somebody who kind of quietly is a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are excited about in year two. But

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Speaker 1: same with Drew do Almond. And if if they can't,

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Speaker 1: we know Chris Lnstrom, we know Jake Matthews, we know

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Speaker 1: Caleb McGary, but like, if those two guys can can

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Speaker 1: take a big step forward, man, we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Falcons offensive line in the same way that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about like Detroit, in the same way that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about some of like the best units I think around

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Speaker 1: the league, and that's huge.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Bergern is really gonna waylay someone on those.

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Speaker 5: Screens, really is he? I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it when they run any type of screen

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Speaker 2: to Matthew Bergeron's side because every time I'm.

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Speaker 5: Like there, he goes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's such a violent lineman.

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Speaker 5: I love it. He's like, yeah, the anti Canadian. It's great.

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Speaker 5: Just bucking stereotypes left and right. That's great.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a follow up for that, so Anti

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Speaker 3: we'll go.

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Speaker 5: We'll go Camp Champ. Then, Taren, you got.

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Speaker 3: Is it number forty three? There you go, number forty three.

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Speaker 2: I also had Anthony Johnson, but I will give a

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Speaker 2: honorable mention though my vote is going to go to

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Speaker 2: Anthony Johnson because he was also my camp Champ. I

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Speaker 2: thought Lorenzo Carter had a good day.

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Speaker 5: Oh interesting, Yeah, you want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 5: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that he Obviously we talked a lot

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Speaker 2: about Braylan Trice and how you don't you no longer

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Speaker 2: have him at your disposal, But Lorenzo Carter has kind

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Speaker 2: of been the leader of this OUTSEEA.

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Speaker 5: We just haven't talked about, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't talked a lot about Lorenzo Carter.

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Speaker 3: And I felt like it's not necessarily a bad.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's a bad job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the expectation I expect Lorenzo Carter to go out

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Speaker 2: and perform well down in Yeah, we.

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Speaker 1: Haven't talked about Jake Matthews, right, like, just go out

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Speaker 1: there and just do your stuff.

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Speaker 5: We know what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know with the sack today.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just if you're not like talking about somebody

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Speaker 2: like That's what I always say. Like when whenever I

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Speaker 2: see like anything like a mean common or someone tweeting

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Speaker 2: something mean at me, I always try to like, sorry,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm always like, you know, when you go to

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Speaker 2: a restaurant and you have a really really great experience,

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Speaker 2: you don't go on Yelp and leave a good review

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Speaker 2: for somebody should because I use Yelp on the daily,

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Speaker 2: but there are a lot of times where if you

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Speaker 2: have a bad experience, that's when you're very loud about

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Speaker 2: I had a bad experience.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: So for guys like Matthew Berjean and Jake Matthews, Lorenzo

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Speaker 2: Carter that we're not talking a lot about in this podcast,

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's just because like we expect them

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Speaker 2: to go out and perform well.

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Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing with alignment.

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Speaker 3: That's normal. I feel like all of them will say

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Speaker 3: if you talk about me, I did something wrong. If

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Speaker 3: you realize me, I'm not doing my job like job correctly.

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Speaker 5: But a pass rusher you would like to.

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Speaker 3: Because we've been talking so much about like rotation.

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Speaker 1: That's the point that I mean, James Williams across from

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Speaker 1: him is a surprise. It's Brayland Trice across from him.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a surprise. But he's that

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Speaker 1: main say on the.

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Speaker 3: Other side, so it's a different type of silence about him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought he's been doing well. I think

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Speaker 2: he's been doing well.

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Speaker 1: But stop tweeting about Bradley Pinion every time he just

751
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Speaker 1: has like one bad punt. The guy fifteen great punts,

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Speaker 1: one bad punt. I see all of you, You're just

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Speaker 1: like Bradley Pinion. What's going on? So stop doing that.

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Speaker 1: I think Anthony Johnson he's gonna be our camp champ.

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Speaker 1: I did want to kind of just shout out again.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna name Drew Dolmen, even though it was

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Speaker 1: really tight for me between birds Round and Dolmen. He

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Speaker 1: kind of finished practice off a little bit stronger. And

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Speaker 1: then Darnell Mooney, he was my front runner for like

760
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Speaker 1: half of the day, and then he dropped that ball

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Speaker 1: kind of on the left side of the end zone

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Speaker 1: where it would have been a touchdown, and then I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, time to watch the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Sorry Darnell, but I thought he looked really sharp out there,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty optimistic.

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Speaker 1: I think Darnell is gonna be We keep talking about

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, we keep talking about Drake Lennon and Jean

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Speaker 1: and for good reason night. But I do wonder if

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Speaker 1: we look back and Darnell has nine hundred yards and

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, is here and it's like, all right, look

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Speaker 1: at him.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Darnell is going to kind of be

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Speaker 3: like Jesse Bates last year, where like they're not new

775
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Speaker 3: to the league, but they spent a few years with

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Speaker 3: one team and while they were good there, they came

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Speaker 3: here and popped off. Kind of like Jesse had a

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Speaker 3: huge year last year, his best year of his career

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Speaker 3: so far. I'm expecting that out of Darnell.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are getting ready to wrap things up.

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Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a longer episode, but

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Speaker 1: we just had a lot to cover. I'll open the

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Speaker 1: floor one last time, not Tori, anything else on. You

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Speaker 1: want to get off your chest before we wrap up.

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Speaker 3: No, I think we're good.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to hit this week and we'll be in

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Speaker 2: Baltimore at the end of the week.

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Speaker 5: So thank you, Karen.

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Speaker 3: You didn't want to talk to us after that game.

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Speaker 3: I got home at like four am.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still kind of like trying to catch up

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Speaker 4: on sleep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah good.

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Speaker 1: I looked at my whoop metrics today and there's just

797
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Speaker 1: like recovery is all in the red and the strain

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Speaker 1: was like way at the top.

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Speaker 3: Garment is very angry with me.

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Speaker 5: I'm crashing.

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Speaker 1: But thank you guys so much for listening to all

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Speaker 1: of today's episode, and congratulations to Anthony Johnson on being

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Speaker 1: the camp champ for the first time. We still have

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Speaker 1: Clark Phillips as the leader in the clubhouse. He's honestly

805
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: been a really strong contender in training camp, so I

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00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: kind of feel pretty good about that. But he only

807
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Speaker 1: has two so it's an open race for anybody at

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Speaker 1: this point. We still have a couple weeks left, but

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Speaker 1: please spread the word on this podcast Falcons Final Whistle.

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Speaker 1: You can get it Spotify, Apple, wherever you listen to

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Speaker 1: your podcast, so you can also check us out on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: But that will do it for us today. We will

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Speaker 1: catch you guys again on Tuesday for Tory mc laney

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Speaker 1: and Taron Locke. I'm Will mc fadden. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys tomorrow