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Speaker 1: Damn right, not really, it's around the NFL. I'm Dan Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Just got a hero here, a lone wolf, Greg ros

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Speaker 1: not the lone wolf. That's an accurate money drop because

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Speaker 1: the the two biggest meat eaters on the podcast, really

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Speaker 1: And the only reason it really comes to mindus because

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Speaker 1: and see? And I know Greg, what you're thinking. You're saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: be clear. Thank you for cooling NFL expert and podcast

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Speaker 1: to share there. This is a huge story. Indeed, indeed,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till you're back. Well, you nailed it, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you give yourself that extra cushion to let the best

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Speaker 1: team win that game. UM for it. I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: And also, remember when they changed the NFL defensive holding

428
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Speaker 1: rules because Bill Polian was in charge with the rules

429
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Speaker 1: committee and he was a big whiney baby. Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: kept losing. Developing news is this from ESPN. Do they

431
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Speaker 1: have it first? Because I credited Schefter on different news

432
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Speaker 1: last week and Ian texted me, what's your deal, dude? Well,

433
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Speaker 1: it came from Richard Sherman first, that's that we want.

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Speaker 1: Who breaks it? So Richard Sherman and here's Jordan d

435
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Speaker 1: reconfirmed it. Yea confirmed? Right. Let me see, this is

436
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: what the news is. Former Seahawks Pro Bowl linebacker Bobby

437
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Speaker 1: Wagner is signing a five year, fifty million dollar deal

438
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Speaker 1: worth up to sixty five alien with of course the Rams,

439
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: uh per league sources. So Wagner stays in the NFC West,

440
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Speaker 1: he goes to the Rams because of course the Rams

441
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: are if nothing else greg they're predictable. And uh, you knew,

442
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Speaker 1: like I had, I had connected the dots of Clowney

443
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Speaker 1: going to Los Angeles because they like veterans that are

444
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Speaker 1: maybe on the wrong side of thirty but still have

445
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Speaker 1: juice to take him over the top. And and the

446
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Speaker 1: latest now is Bobby Wagner one of the great linebackers,

447
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Speaker 1: perhaps the greatest linebacker in Seahawks history. And this is

448
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Speaker 1: just ultimate respect from a team that had to go

449
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Speaker 1: against him the most, like Sean McVeigh knows that Bobby

450
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Speaker 1: Wagner isn't quite at his peak, but he knows preparing

451
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Speaker 1: to go against Wagner twice a year for the last

452
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Speaker 1: five years, what an incredible challenge. That is, what incredible

453
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Speaker 1: intelligence Bobby Wagner has, how great he is stopping the run,

454
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Speaker 1: and like, wow, what we could do with that guy,

455
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Speaker 1: because if he doesn't really fit their team building process

456
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Speaker 1: in general. In general, they don't pay any off ball linebackers.

457
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Speaker 1: You've gotta save money somewhere. They just draft guys in

458
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Speaker 1: the middle rounds. They never pay an off ball linebacker.

459
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Speaker 1: They did it here because it's Bobby Wagner and just

460
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Speaker 1: because I think they feel like they know him so

461
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Speaker 1: well after going against him twice, and I trust their

462
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Speaker 1: track record. I know the Rams. Uh. You may look

463
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Speaker 1: at that contract and given that Wagner maybe has fallen

464
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Speaker 1: off a little bit in recent years, that's too rich,

465
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But they Rams are very upfront. There

466
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Speaker 1: a year to year organization. They're in it to win it.

467
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Speaker 1: And if we keep saying that, but they're always in it.

468
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Speaker 1: So they're the most winning Franich, right, But they've they've

469
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Speaker 1: been winning. Is my point is since McVeigh showed up

470
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Speaker 1: their their second and wins behind the Chiefs, and so

471
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Speaker 1: they've won every year. They haven't had a first round

472
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Speaker 1: draft pick that whole time, not literally, not once, And

473
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Speaker 1: to me, it's that they they are inspiring how other

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Speaker 1: teams are doing. And I bet this the when you

475
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Speaker 1: break it down, will be something like two for eighteen,

476
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Speaker 1: which is it's just fine. I think the question with

477
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Speaker 1: the team building of the Rams, and again you can't

478
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Speaker 1: really be critical of it because the Lombardi Trophy is

479
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: in their lobby right now. Um, but will the bill

480
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: eventually come due and they'll be, you know, a shipwrecked

481
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Speaker 1: franchise for half a decade. I don't think that's how

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Speaker 1: it works, That's what I'm saying. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's how it works. If it does, if there actually

484
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Speaker 1: is a bill to pay. If you build this way

485
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Speaker 1: where you keep trading all these top draft assets and

486
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Speaker 1: keep on bringing veterans and putting out spending all this money,

487
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Speaker 1: is there a downside to it? Or maybe if you

488
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Speaker 1: run your organization the right way, yes, you are showing

489
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Speaker 1: people that you can do it this way as well,

490
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: and that becomes the trend because you know the NFL

491
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Speaker 1: is filled with followers up and down. I think we've

492
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Speaker 1: seen it. I think they've impacted how teams have have

493
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Speaker 1: approached this offseason. And they have these guys that I

494
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Speaker 1: look at their roster that will be there a long time.

495
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Speaker 1: I guess that's why I don't see it ending any

496
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Speaker 1: time soon. The key guys, and they've been fortunate to

497
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Speaker 1: draft some of them that that's good on them, but

498
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Speaker 1: they've also been smart to bring some of them in

499
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Speaker 1: like Stafford uh and Allen Robinson now and now Bobby Wagner,

500
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Speaker 1: and all these guys are under control for two to

501
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Speaker 1: three more years. Like I I see this, this current

502
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Speaker 1: iteration of the Rams at least being very good for

503
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Speaker 1: the next two to Troy Reader is a free agent.

504
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Ernest Jones as a rookie struggled especially against the run,

505
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Speaker 1: so you imagine that Wagner is going to had a

506
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Speaker 1: monster moment in the playoffs. Though what was that the

507
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Speaker 1: forty Niners game where he might have been one of

508
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Speaker 1: the best players, So I think they're excited about his development,

509
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Speaker 1: him and Bobby Wagner together. Spicy, good little developing news there.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break and continue on all right, we're back. Yes,

511
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Speaker 1: we're in the era of trade. Everybody just make trades.

512
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Speaker 1: Go crazy, be part of the part of the cool kids. Oh,

513
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: we have our best player, let's trade him, trade his

514
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Speaker 1: ass that's cool, that's fun. So maybe now that the

515
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks have already done that, they traded. It's peer pressure,

516
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Speaker 1: that's what I think. So I think the league is

517
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Speaker 1: mostly driven by peer pressure. There's something to that. Um

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Speaker 1: And Now, because Davante Adams moves uh in a trade,

519
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: because Tyreek Hill moves in a trade, now the assumption

520
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: is dk metcalfs up for a contract, he'll be moved

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Speaker 1: in a trade. And yet Greg, you would think, no,

522
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: they won't do that. He's young, and he's a stud,

523
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Speaker 1: and they need to build around some players. You keep

524
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Speaker 1: on hearing things from both Pete Carroll and John Schneider

525
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Speaker 1: that make it feel like a trade might be likely

526
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Speaker 1: or perhaps probable in this situation. Yeah, this is one

527
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Speaker 1: of the more mystifying stories of this offseason. First of all,

528
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Speaker 1: Seahawks fans listening to them talk up a Drew Lock

529
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Speaker 1: Geno Smith quarterback battle. We'll get to that. At the

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Speaker 1: same time that Bobby Wagner's joining their division rivals and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's and the Broncos, and now this that they

532
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Speaker 1: might not be keeping dk Metcalf. It's tough offseason right

533
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Speaker 1: now for Sea Box fans. Schneider brought this up, that

534
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: the money for these wide receivers are just getting crazy,

535
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: and then you hear this stuff behind the scenes and

536
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: you think is an agent getting involved looking for the

537
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: next right place for him? Because they both Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: and John Schneider at the owner's meeting said it's their

539
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: intent to bring back dk Metcalf, But like, why is

540
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: that just an intent like that? It's a strange way

541
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: to put it. And he said, well, we're having a

542
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Speaker 1: normal off season and it's part of the normal process

543
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: and we'll look at everything. And that's weird. That's weird

544
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Speaker 1: to me. It's the same words they used, by the way,

545
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Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson, that they intended to keep Russell Wilson.

546
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Speaker 1: They said that before the owners, I mean before at

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Speaker 1: the combine. So it's very similar there. There's certain buzzwords

548
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: when you hear them, like okay, we hope, why would

549
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: they do this that keep good players? All right? I

550
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: don't know that seems to be smart, but you know,

551
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: they they are looking at their roster in a different way. Now,

552
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Speaker 1: speaking of Russell Wilson, yes, he's gone. For the past

553
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: couple of years, it's been Gino Smith who has backed

554
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: up the QB. He got some starts when Russell Wilson

555
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: suffered that finger injury. He's currently a free agent. But uh, well,

556
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Speaker 1: you know what, I think it's time for another episode.

557
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: I think we're do hit it, Ricky and now another

558
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: edition of Sipping. Yes, Pete Carroll. He's trying to figure

559
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Speaker 1: out who his quarterback is gonna be. And he's thinking

560
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Speaker 1: to himself, let's not rule out Gino Smith, just the

561
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Speaker 1: just the way that Greg Rosenthal thinks before he goes

562
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Speaker 1: to bed every night. And I think it would be

563
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: a shame if if he misses this opportunity. This is

564
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: he's invested a lot with us. Uh, he knows our

565
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: system the best. He performed well at it once he

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Speaker 1: got going last year. You know, can he take off

567
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: from where he finished up? You know? Unfortunately, you know,

568
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game was his last game, and uh it

569
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: was almost a perfect football game for him, you know,

570
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Speaker 1: And so um, we have very high hopes that he

571
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: can run the system really well, and so he's not

572
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna miss out. Did you just do the like Bill Clinton,

573
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: like kind of a thumbs up, black real head nod.

574
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: Look at both of use. It's like gette. I mean,

575
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: analytics have suggested it's one of the great starts by

576
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: any quarterback in the past twenty years. That's will, It's

577
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: what the numbers say. Pete Carroll wants Gino. Gino does

578
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: need to make sure in his agent that this deal

579
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Speaker 1: does happen because he's probably not gonna have any chances

580
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: to compete to start. But it's funny how Carroll's just

581
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: putting it out there so obviously just like he's the

582
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: opportunity has been waiting for has finally arrived. Like he

583
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: better come in there, and they're trying to probably structure

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Speaker 1: a contract in a way that if he actually is

585
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: the starter, that he gets compensated better for it. But

586
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: he's got to be careful here. There are other quarterbacks

587
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: out there, and uh, I don't know if he has

588
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Speaker 1: much leverage. I don't He's definitely not getting a chance

589
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Speaker 1: to start anywhere else. I don't even don't get if

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00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: he has much leverage. Smith, Well, you gotta at least

591
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: be fair to your players. They clearly love him, they

592
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: like him, they want him back, and they want to

593
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: You were banging the drum on this one about how

594
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Speaker 1: they do. You got to admit, Oh, he couldn't stand

595
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And then Dk Metcalf comes out with an

596
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Instagram post that's a love letter to his now former teammates,

597
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: saying Pete Carroll likes Gino. They want to sign him. Yeah,

598
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: but do you trust seven year old Pete cat will

599
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: be making the right decisions right now? No? I don't know,

600
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 1: but but I don't know. What do you want this

601
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: to happen? It's been a weird offseason. If they trade

602
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: away Dk Metcalf to your Jets and Gino smith is

603
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: is starting week one, someone pointed out to me too,

604
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Speaker 1: which I guess I knew, But you kind of get

605
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: so used to the stuff that you forget that the

606
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: trade offer that I pushed on Tuesday's show or Monday

607
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Speaker 1: Show about the Jets sending the tenth overall pick to Seattle.

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Speaker 1: That's the Jamal Adams first round pick, so Seattle would

609
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Speaker 1: get back the pick that they maybe it'll be maybe

610
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: a tough pill for Seattle to swallow to get back

611
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Speaker 1: to pick that was there's already. But anyway, that was

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Speaker 1: a good app good app of you know what, And

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Speaker 1: that was another edition of che I mean, I can't

614
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: wait to see him starting games again. He's officially gonna

615
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: outlast Rex Ryan's head coaching career. By the way, now,

616
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: if he makes one more year, he's one more than

617
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Speaker 1: Rex lasted as a head coach. Well, he's also gotta

618
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's gotta handle some off the field issues,

619
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Speaker 1: including a suspension. I think that could come down. He

620
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: did have a d Another reason why it doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like he has a lot of leverage in this No,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't see the Gino Coasters having

623
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Speaker 1: a ton of leverage right now. Um. In other quarterback news,

624
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan still has Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo. We

625
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: gotta talked to Baldi about that this is big stuff

626
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: um on their roster um and he started, I get annoyed, Greggy.

627
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: It seems with the constant questions about Jimmy g and

628
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: his future, that's why we looked into training Jimmy. I mean,

629
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Speaker 1: because we obviously believe that Tray Cambia starter, and we're

630
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Speaker 1: ready to do that. But if we can't help upgrade

631
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: our team in another way, We're not just gonna get

632
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Speaker 1: rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks

633
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: on the roster, and quarterbacks are really hard to come by.

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Speaker 1: Some teams don't have any at all. When Jimmy gets

635
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: the surgery, and um, we can't help create our team

636
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: by getting some good picks until the surgery. Tell people

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Speaker 1: feel good about that. I'm all right with that. We're

638
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Speaker 1: not just getting rid of them to get rid of them.

639
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy is a good player that we all really like

640
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: as a person and as a teammate, and we're gonna

641
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: wait to see whatever helps on Ironers anymore. I like

642
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: the tone of his voice. It's that like, alright, dumbasses,

643
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to explain this to you for the last time.

644
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: So listen up and listen closely and write down your

645
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: little notebooks everything I say. Let me just lays it out.

646
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I think it's also um informed by the coaches and

647
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: owners party you've been. We've been to that party. There's

648
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: night for the interview, the press availability for Kyle Shanahan,

649
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: and if you saw the I don't know if you

650
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: saw the video of this clip, but Kyle looked tired.

651
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: He looked very tired and very annoyed. So you're waking

652
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: up maybe not on you didn't get the best sleep

653
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: in the world, and you're mad at the world. And

654
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: by the way, this also might be a story that

655
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: UH pokes at some frizzers in your organization between the GM,

656
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: because supposedly the GM was saying that he got two

657
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: second round picks offered for Jimmy G. I don't believe that,

658
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: but this situation I feel like has been bumbled a little.

659
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Kyle didn't get his quarterback in the last draft.

660
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: Who knows. You're still pumping that Mac Jones conspiracy theory. Yes,

661
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: until we see Trey Lance thrive or fail, we don't

662
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: know how this really is getting up playing out, But yeah,

663
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: they He also said he acknowledged that the shoulder surgery

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Speaker 1: for Jimmy G has kind of foul things up, and

665
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: I believe that. I think if Jimmy G came out

666
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: of the season healthy enough to avoid um the hospital,

667
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: they probably would have pulled this trade off, and still

668
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: someone would have called. But they were the same people.

669
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: They were like, Oh, they putting out there all these

670
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: reports from insiders. I was like, well, I don't think

671
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury is going to impact his trade value

672
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: at all, I John Lynch, I've just kind of noticed

673
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: they're a little too obvious about their like public positioning

674
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: of of all this stuff. And I I wouldn't be

675
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: shocked if Jimmy g is on this roster. I really

676
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't be totally stunned. All Right, maybe they're a little obvious,

677
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: but they nearly won the Super Bowl a couple of

678
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: years ago. They had an injury rex season, and then

679
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: they came within a fourth quarter collapse of going back

680
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. They're doing a good job a

681
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: tempting to publicly create leverage for your quarterback. And it's

682
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: not like the biggest deal as GMS though either. I mean,

683
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: it's not that important. All Right, you want to do

684
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 1: a little Scott Fitterer talk. I feel like he doesn't

685
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: get enough pop pop. I've never talked about him. Alright,

686
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: who is Scott fitter audience, I'm giving you a little

687
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: window to respond to yourself or whoever you're with right now. No,

688
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: you're wrong. He's the general manager of the Carolina Panthers.

689
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: He acknowledged this week that it would be a tough

690
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: choice between grabbing one of the top um blockers or

691
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: playmakers in this draft and and filling the quarterback spot,

692
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: which obviously continues to be an issue. This is what

693
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Speaker 1: Fitterer said, according to the team's official website. This is

694
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting quote, Greg, So I'm gonna read

695
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: it in two parts. This will be interesting because the

696
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: tackles will be the best players on the board, but

697
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: we do need a quarterback, and at some point you

698
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: have to take a shot, especially in the top ten.

699
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: You hate to force it because when you force it,

700
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: you could make a mistake. Okay, so part one it

701
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: sounds like they're doomed number one, but that wasn't my point. Now.

702
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: The second part is where he I don't know. It's

703
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: just like sometimes you wonder what's going on in Carolina

704
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: and the people making the decisions. It's a unique quarterback

705
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: class because there's not a clear number one, number two,

706
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: number three, like who's the proven starter who can come

707
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: and play for you. That'll be the conversation we have

708
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: for the next month. Quarterback or left tackle, And we

709
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: could always go pass rusher because Brian Burns is coming up,

710
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean his contract. I mean, we'll do the option,

711
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: but if that money gets out of hand, it's better

712
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: to have somebody ready to go in the hopper. What

713
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Yeah, that's weird talking so much.

714
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: Don't talk so much, Scott Fitterer. I think I think

715
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: they're in a very similar situation to Atlanta in that

716
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: they passed on the quarterbacks last year. They could have drafted,

717
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: drafted justin fields. They could have drafted mac Jones. Supposedly,

718
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: Matt Rule love mac Jones. I mean Matt Rule kept

719
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: telling us publicly that he loved mac Jones. Everybody loves

720
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: mac Jones. They decided to take j. C. Horn instead.

721
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: He got hurt, so that was unfortunate. And now you're

722
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: in this draft where it's like, we kind of do

723
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: have to do something at quarterback. This is where you

724
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: get into trouble, which he alludes to, but he also

725
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: says you kind of have to do something here. I'd

726
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: be very nervous of this. This is maybe like when

727
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: we get David Eally in here um because as a

728
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Panther's van, this feels like a very dangerous moment in

729
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: time because they try to get Stafford, didn't work. Try

730
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: to get Watson didn't work. Tried to go bring Cam

731
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: back and didn't work. Try to get Donald didn't work.

732
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: And now what that desperation. See, it's that desperation again

733
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: you get Baker. I mean they were talking about that.

734
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: They think Sam Donald could be better in year two.

735
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: But I just man, I love I was the number

736
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: one Donald supporter. He could not put it together with

737
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: the Jets and then got to clean slate last year.

738
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Still couldn't do it. Maybe there's some quality football in him,

739
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: but they know they need to find another option there.

740
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Um alright, And other news, some personnel stuff. Saints Malcolm

741
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: Jenkins retires. He's a lynch pin for them for many years. Um.

742
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton heads there. That's an interesting signing there. He

743
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: becomes their number two quarterback behind James is Winston, uh

744
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: most likely and Taysom Hill. Now it's over. No longer

745
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: is he in this conversation as a quarterback. He is

746
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: now going to be listed as a tight end and

747
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: that's where he's gonna do his work. So he's kind

748
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: of doing the the tebow route, but in slow motion here,

749
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense and he'll have the money

750
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: that Sean Payton gave him and guarantees for the rest

751
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: of his life. I mean, those two guys seem tight.

752
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: Now he's one of the higher paid tight ends in

753
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. Taysom Hill I, Uh, I love the Dalton signing.

754
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: You feel like you need a backup for Jamis Winston.

755
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: And I just find it curious that, uh, that Andy

756
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: Dalton is added to this team at a time when

757
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: they have more cap space than almost any team in

758
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: the league. Like this didn't go according to plan. Remember

759
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: remember how they were ninety million dollars over the cap

760
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: cap and they got rid of all of it, and

761
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: they got rid of even more so that they could

762
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: fit in Deshaun Watson. And they're like, we're just gonna

763
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: bring back all the same guys it ecept they didn't.

764
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: They didn't bring back to Ron Armstead. He's gone. He

765
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: was great. Malcolm Jenkins, Uh, he was nearing his time,

766
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: end of his time, but he was an effective player.

767
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: So they're not as good as they were. Uh, and

768
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: they have all this cap space. Something seems off. Maybe

769
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: you bring into Honey Badger at some point, and I

770
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: know they signed Marcus May, but like you could have

771
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: both of those guys. Yeah. I think Dennis Allen is

772
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: thinking to himself right now, Man, I came so close.

773
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Now they were gonna just like the Browns are. They

774
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: would take a beating, uh for getting involved with Watson,

775
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: but he would have put them on a path toward contention.

776
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Now they're kind of stuck in the woods a little

777
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: bit here, and look here's a man. He's he's done

778
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: things in the woods. He's he's wrestled alligators in the Amazon,

779
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: he's climbed mountains, and now he sits in the big

780
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: chair for the Around the NFL podcast Welcome Back. Brian

781
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Baldinger was seamless. I was starting to stutter over my

782
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: words talking about the Andy Dalton signing because I saw

783
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: Baldy on the other side, real big news. Well we're

784
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: getting to we're getting to the very end of it.

785
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: But there was some saying we didn't toxic in a

786
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: little while, and Baldy was trying to figure out how

787
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: to get into this studio. I've never been invitable for.

788
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: This is the Chris Wesleyan Podcast studio. Welcome So it's uh,

789
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: it's an honor. It's great to have you Baldi. Yeah,

790
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: we're at the you know, at the bottom of the

791
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: cup of coffee where you see some of the grind

792
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: in it. That's where the Yeah we are, Yes, we

793
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: are the final news item because we have Baldi on

794
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: the podcast. We call them sandwich props. Were different wagers

795
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: and if you win it, you get a sandwich. You lose,

796
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: you gotta pay apps. And what kind of sandwiches are

797
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: we talking about? Great question, It depends really where. Well,

798
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: now they've become hyper most people, it's like non existent.

799
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: But we used to be near a deli. I bring

800
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: in burritos that's not even a sandwich, but they're they're

801
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: very tasty. Yeah, alright, one more break and then we'll

802
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: finish up the show. So I have wager to sandwich

803
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: against Greg that Antonio Brown will be back in the

804
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: league at some point in two And that was before

805
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: the report connected to TMZ that Antonio Brown wants everyone

806
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: to know and I am not very happy about this.

807
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: In my sandwich prop here, he wants everyone to know

808
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I will not get surgery on my ankle until someone

809
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: signs me. Like what's the point, I don't know, Like

810
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: why wouldn't get like you just don't want to go

811
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: through rehab if I don't get signed, because you know,

812
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we're starting to get into the off season

813
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: here where you don't have to start working together with

814
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: some of these people. I follow Antonio a little bit

815
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: on social media. I have no idea what he's doing.

816
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: It looks just very You're much better follow You have

817
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of like jumping off of cliffs in in

818
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: tropical location. I mean I like adventures he does too,

819
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: but not not necessarily safe ones or catch a Foot's

820
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: not going to be back in the league. I feel

821
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: good about this. How could a team give him a

822
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: job again? But Baldi, is he gonna play another down

823
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Well, talent usually wins out, you know,

824
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: but I can't see. I mean, you just can cross

825
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: out certain teams right now. It's a deep draft and

826
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I can't see that taking place right now.

827
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you go through the teams that are trying

828
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: to rebuild, you know, the Jets, I mean, the usual suspects.

829
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: That's not gonna fly Detroit, you know, just go through

830
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: the teams trying to rebuild here. That's not gonna work.

831
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: The bat making ball they talk about Antonio Brown. This

832
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: is the the coffee in the bottom. Let's let's get

833
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: let's breaking news here. What we got, we got Bobby,

834
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Speaker 1: I would thoughts, Well, you know, I was just I

835
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: was just breaking down. It's gonna do a litt breakdown

836
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: on Bobby. I'm a big fan, and um, you know

837
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: he has like Seattle owned San Francisco last year, So

838
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: you think about, okay going to the Rams. Their chief

839
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: nemesis is the forty Niners in that division. Up to

840
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the forty Niners have pretty much had their

841
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: way with them. But if you watch Wagon these games,

842
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: like he went against Trey Lance and had some good

843
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: plays against him. They saw it's a different offense when

844
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: Trey Lance was in it, so they defended to run

845
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: pretty good when he was in there. And then you know,

846
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: first passed the game against Jimmy Garoppolo Week thirteen intercepts. It.

847
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I just think like this guy has rare not just skills,

848
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: but like rare insight and instincts for the game that

849
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: would help any team. Like I feel like I've watched

850
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: games this year where like he I felt like he

851
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: was coaching Jordan Brooks during the play. During the play

852
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: like you're in the wrong place, Like you gotta see

853
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: this faster, Like now Jordan Brooks led the league and

854
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: solo tackles last year, Like that's Bobby Waggoner's influence right there.

855
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Now he can do it with with Ernest Jones, I do,

856
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: and he's from l A. I think it's overrated of

857
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: like players want to play in a certain city or not.

858
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: But this is an example of Like he it sounded

859
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: like he wanted to come to the Rams, and he

860
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: helped make it happen. And that doesn't That doesn't happen

861
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: too often, it doesn't Greg, But I feel like the

862
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: building of these super teams is now much more commonplace

863
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: than we ever saw, and we're starting to see it,

864
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: and so teams are players are kind of directing themselves

865
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: towards things. I think he'd love to play for, you know, Raheem,

866
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: And I think he'd love to play for McVeigh and

867
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: play with a d and some of these guys right now,

868
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Like it'd a human thing too. You're in the middle

869
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: of this Hall of Fame career, you've accomplished so much,

870
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: like a new challenge and and seeing what it's like

871
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: in another franchise that that can reinvigorate you, just like

872
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: if you're a great player, like back the clock seat. Yeah,

873
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: I like that. And it's interesting you you mentioned the

874
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: super team SOW that is fully in the NFL now,

875
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: and you could say that Lebron started in perhaps into

876
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: that ten with a decision and going to the Miami Heat.

877
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: And I wonder if when we look back at our

878
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: sports century, remember when ESPN did those at the end

879
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: of the nineties, We'll look back at what happened with

880
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: Lebron and see that changed sports in a lot of ways.

881
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Because it does feel like these players, these star players

882
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: is in the NFL, who have never had more leverage,

883
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: are now dictating the terms of how they want to handle,

884
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: especially the veterans in the back end of their career

885
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: when they still have good not even in the back end.

886
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Ramsey wanted out of Jacksonville. Jayla Ramsey

887
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: got out of Jacksonville. I mean he was he wasn't

888
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: even beginning his career. He you know, they went to

889
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, like he was the star player. He

890
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: could line up on Antonio Brown from this guy Dan Well.

891
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I thought he quit on his team a little bit.

892
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: Might look at whatever. I mean, some players are gonna

893
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: do whatever they have to do to get out of

894
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: the building. And maybe some of that took place. There

895
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: was certainly some attitude things that had to be adjusted.

896
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: But like these players, you know, maybe I don't know,

897
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: I don't have any intel, but if Kyler Murray wants

898
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: to get out of Arizona, is their landing spot for

899
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? I don't know, but you know, I think

900
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: I feel like players now are truly free agents. Like

901
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: there was free agency since nineteen, but now players feel like,

902
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: especially if you're a great player or you have potentially

903
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: a great player, like you can kind of dictate your

904
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: terms right now. The Sports century thing is really interesting,

905
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: like one that's that's somewhat optimistic. Even I'm glad, like

906
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: the environmental apocalypse hasn't ended everything before then, so that's good,

907
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: but we will be gone most likely. So how let's

908
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: say the NFL network did it did a show about

909
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: it that you know, the previous century the NFL. Where

910
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: does the Around the NFL podcast get mentioned? Well, we

911
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: haven't even begun to write our story, Greg, all right,

912
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: So that's the way I spent I always feel like,

913
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's not an appropriate like John Madden passes

914
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: this year, and you can't write the history of about

915
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: eight different things without mentioning John Madden. Yeah, So that's

916
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: how I think you should think about around the century.

917
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: On the podcast group at the NFL, we're definitely front

918
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: and center there, all right, Sure, we'll take that. By

919
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: the way, Jalen Ramsey arrived at Jaguars training camp in

920
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen and an armored truck, uh, demanding a

921
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: new contract. That was an interesting little error for him.

922
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: Now Baldi on big stuff, Okay, just getting going on

923
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: the big stuff. I'm curious. We talked Bruce Arians earlier. Um,

924
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: we Greg and I were mostly on the same page,

925
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: But I wondered if arians success, how much was contributed

926
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: to his style of coaching and his aggressive nature to

927
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: connecting with Big Ben and his prime then Carson Palmer

928
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: and then Tom Brady. Um, how much do you think

929
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: arians exitted picture could change things for the Bucks? Well,

930
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: I think, um, you know that he's built a culture there.

931
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: There was a reason why Tom Brady went there, and

932
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Arians. I mean that they had been

933
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: drafting really well, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

934
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: They had a lot of really talented receivers already in place,

935
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: so and the structure for the offensive line was was there,

936
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: especially when they when they hit gold on Tristan worse.

937
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: So I think Brady kind of these guys do their homework.

938
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know, Bruce arians you know,

939
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: built the culture. Now we get to see Todd Bowles

940
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: with a really good team. We saw him with the

941
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: team that was in transition that became just an ugly

942
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: mess in New York. Now we get to see him

943
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: with the really the pressure on him, like you know,

944
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: he's expected to get deep into the playoffs as the

945
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: head coach. Can he can he fulfill that? And can

946
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: he keep this team that has all of this talent

947
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: in all these expectations? Can he keep him on the

948
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: rails for eighteen weeks? It's really crazy to think about

949
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: how they played. They were quite injured, and they played

950
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: their worst three quarters of the season by far. I mean,

951
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: they were getting crushed and in the end they lost

952
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: by three points to the Super Bowl champs. They were

953
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: right there at the end. How about the Tyreek Hill move.

954
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: There has been a lot of um speculation here the

955
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: trade to the Dolphins and gets this massive contract. People saying, oh,

956
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: but this to his game isn't a good match with

957
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: Tyreek's game. Are you concerned about that? As someone who

958
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: studies tape as well as any on the big stuff, Well,

959
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: I think that the pressures on Mike McDaniel make just

960
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: China brand. I think the pressure really is on Mike

961
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: McDaniel to make this all work. You got all these components, um,

962
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, they're uh, you know on paper there, you know,

963
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: paper lions right now. And so he's got a factor

964
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: into and any sort of shortcomings you think he has.

965
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: I think he's good in the short passing game. There's

966
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: been a lot of short passes, long runs from Tyreek

967
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: from Patrick Mahomes over the last five years. So I

968
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: think all that can still be in place, along with

969
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Jayleen Waddle and just Sicky and what they have there.

970
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: So I think it's up to Mike McDaniel to make

971
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: this work right now. What about giving up like as

972
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: a team building process, do you think giving up all

973
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: those picks for for Hell specifically, Well, they've had a

974
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of picks break the last two years. They were

975
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: awful with their picks. You know, where there was Austin Jackson.

976
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you could give a lot of

977
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: teams a lot of picks and they can screw it

978
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: up really fast. That's what I feel like the Dolphins

979
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: did they Hi Tons. I mean, I would still like

980
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: to have Laramie Tunsel there at left hand now, because

981
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: like when you make a mistake in the draft, it

982
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: never goes away, right, you overpay in free agency. That's

983
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: why Torn armstaves there. If they just stayed with Laramie,

984
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: who was a great player, like you would never get

985
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: to turn Armstead. You'd have Laramie Tunsel before moving on

986
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: from this one though. As a former NFL guard, how

987
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: many years did you play? Twelve years? You know, a

988
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: manly man, you know, just sitting next to me, I'm

989
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: I I'm intimidated. I'm intimidated. Mike McDaniel is your head coach? Yes,

990
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: cuts a different figure, has a different vibe even when

991
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: he speaks, than a different than most head coaches I've

992
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: ever seen. How would you respond as as a player,

993
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: how do you think he would go over in the

994
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: offensive line room? You know, like I've had a lot

995
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: of different offensive line coaches, like Dante Scarneckia was my coach. Now,

996
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: Dante was a big part of all the success they

997
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: had in New England. But when you listen to Dante,

998
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: like he sounded like a physics professor to me when

999
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: he was in front of the room, you know, and

1000
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of people that are gonna

1001
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: say he's just an Ivy League guy. You know, this

1002
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: Eli from Yale. But I think Mike, you have to

1003
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: listen to Mike like he's like that nerd that you

1004
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: want to be friend. Okay. You know, like there's some

1005
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: nerves that are just stay on the other side of

1006
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: the room. I don't want any part of you. But

1007
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: then there's the nerves that are like cool nerds, like

1008
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: this is the revenge of the nerds. You know. That's

1009
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: touch why I feel like you get with Mike. You know,

1010
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you want to be That's what That's the

1011
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: lane I was angling for as a kid, that one

1012
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: of the cool nerds. Who but you're making it clear

1013
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to him that we think you're a nerd as a player. Yeah. No, Look,

1014
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: I I remember in eighth grade I hung out with

1015
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: these nerds that read Scientific American and they were determined

1016
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: to build their own laser and I thought, like I

1017
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: was playing basketball and football and baseball this stuff in

1018
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: eighth grade. But I thought it was cool that they

1019
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: wanted to build a laser. And I spent an hour

1020
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: every day in the library trying to research this should

1021
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: be a whole good balled the episode Baldi on Nerds. Well,

1022
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: that's the thing about Baldi. He's not Ogre, remember Ogre

1023
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: from Revenge of the Nerds. Like you are intellectually curious

1024
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: and you could you could shake hands in both aisles. Yea,

1025
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: we might need you in the well. It would be

1026
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: interesting to see what what Kyle Shanahan is like without

1027
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: Mike mc you've hit on something interesting there too. It

1028
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: as well because your career Baldi ended after the nineties

1029
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: three season. Do you think there's a big difference now

1030
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: in terms of McDaniel figure how he would fit in

1031
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: now compared to thirty years ago. Um no, I think

1032
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: coaches either they can coach and get their information across

1033
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: or they can't. I remember remember Al Grow Yeah, so

1034
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: i'l Grow was, you know, probably the top personnel guy

1035
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. They won't really tell us who has

1036
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: been okay, but you know how it's like Il was

1037
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: in one of my brother's weddings. I've known al forever.

1038
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: He came to a football camp of mine along Island

1039
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: one time when he was with the Jets, and he

1040
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: put the kids to sleep talking about some of the

1041
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: things he was talking about. But this is this is

1042
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: a great football mind. Like on that day in that camp,

1043
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: Algrels put these kids asleep. Maybe that speaks to his

1044
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: struggles because Belichick. I've read all the books on Belichick,

1045
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: but the one by Halberstam is great the education of

1046
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: and Belichick was intimidated going into this NFL locker room.

1047
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: Initially he bare he played at a D three level,

1048
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: but he said it glanvill a lot of diet. He

1049
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: found out quickly. He found out quickly from a couple

1050
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: of big guys that he was intimidated from. If I

1051
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: can give them one piece of information that that makes

1052
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: them better that day in practice, they won't care if

1053
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm the dorkiest guy in the room, because I'm helping

1054
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: their make money and help them do their job well.

1055
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: And as long as I'm giving it, then they're not

1056
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna worry about you know everything. I remember I spent

1057
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: an off season in Buffalo when Marv Leavy was there,

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00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I remember James Lofton used to sit

1059
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: in the front row. And James Lofton part of his

1060
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: charm was whenever Marv would drop a word that was

1061
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: just way too big for the room, James would turn

1062
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: around and he would give like the meaning of the word,

1063
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, and so like. Because Marv could, he could,

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00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: he could speak right over your head. He was a

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00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: very bright guy. McGill University, all this stuff, but like

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00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: Marv was a nerd. But here he has taken Buffalo

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00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: to four state championship. Bruce Smith, listen to Marv, you know,

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00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: and you know that Jim Kelly, listen to Marv Um.

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00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: He had their attention. He came out of the cfl

1070
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: um but yet he was a great NFL coach. How

1071
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: about two big veteran quarterback changes shifts in the a

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: F C. Russell Wilson to Denver, Matt Ryan to Indie. Uh,

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00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: how good do you feel about both those spots? One

1074
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: more than the other. Baldi on the Big Star. I

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00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: think both teams were playoff teams this year. I'm a

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00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: big fan of Nathaniel Hackett. Um when you can uh

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00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: make eight Bortles A you know, a f C championship

1078
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: level quarterback. Um, that's that's good coaching. I'm a big fan,

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00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: so I think he. I think him and Russell are

1080
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a good, a good meeting of the mines.

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00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: And I can't think of a better spot for Matt

1082
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: Ryan to be in than Indianapolis. Like, I think it's

1083
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: just him and Frank Reich are gonna hit the ground

1084
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: running and that's gonna be a really good football What

1085
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: did you see from Matt Ryan on on tape last year?

1086
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: I remember I did one segment with you the QB

1087
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: Index on NFL Now during the seasons, where you literally

1088
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: ripped up the rankings because you thought they were so bad.

1089
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: I was pretty Ryan for most of the season. I

1090
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: thought he played well and if he got any protection whatsoever,

1091
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: he could still do all the ripped up your rankings

1092
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: on live TV. He ripped him up, he thought, because

1093
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was good theater, No, and I thought

1094
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: it pretty. But you you understood too that that was

1095
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna hurt him. No. I love I like that. I

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00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: love that well. I took it as a signers is

1097
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: a sign of respect. He paid enough attention to look

1098
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: at his list, like some people probably were. The two

1099
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: things you're mad about was Matt Jones was too low

1100
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: and Rogers was too loud, too low. He was gonna

1101
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: win the m v P. I just man, it was

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: good theater. It was good for Yeah. Now, I I

1103
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: think Matt Ryan, I think to answer your question, I

1104
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: thought Matt Ryan looked like Matt Ryan and me without

1105
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: a lot of help around him. Like I remember Week

1106
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: one they played the Eagles, Week one, I think, and

1107
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, they're down in the four yard line and

1108
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts isn't on the field, and I was trashing,

1109
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: like Arthur Smith because like, how can you have this

1110
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: generational talent not on the field when that's exactly what

1111
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: he's supposed to thrive in, Like put him in the

1112
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: red zone, let him go jump forty inches to go

1113
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: get the ball against whatever it was. And so I

1114
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: didn't feel like, you know, there was a lot of

1115
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: help there. And you know the good thing about Matt

1116
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: is he never complains. Uh, he's the ultimate professional. But

1117
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on a good football team. And when

1118
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: he was good, he was really good. Last year. There

1119
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: were some games he was sensational. We were at the

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: London game. We were on the field. I know that

1121
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: was against the Jets, but he was taking a lot

1122
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: of pressure and you could just see how well yeah

1123
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: navigate and he everything was into a tiny window and

1124
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: he nailed it. Yeah, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt's I mean

1125
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: like I was there doing the Falcon preseason games when

1126
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: he got signed in two thousand and eight with Mike Smith,

1127
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: and they turned that thing around. But like you know,

1128
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: they didn't give him the job. He earned the job

1129
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: during training camp and they had a plan and then

1130
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: he hit the He hit the field running in two

1131
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. He's the m v P of the

1132
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: league in two thousand and fifteen. I think he's had

1133
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: a great career, but unfortunately he has played in Atlanta,

1134
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of attention. You could the

1135
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: local Friday night high school game gets more attention than

1136
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the Falcon games did, unfortunately. But in Indianapolis,

1137
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: where Peyton put football on the map, Um, he's gonna

1138
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention and he's gonna have a

1139
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: chance to do what they thought Carson Wentz was supposed

1140
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: to do. All right, Two more quick ones the year

1141
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: two Qbs, Cheval Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Mac Jones, Justin Fields,

1142
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: Trey Lands. Who are your highest on entering year two?

1143
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: And who are you worried about? I think I'm I'm

1144
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm high on Zack Wilson. I think I think. I

1145
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: think Joe Dodges is doing I think can get into shape,

1146
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: Like just get off of the Domino's pizza, you know,

1147
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: like whatever he's doing at midnight with Dominoes. Like if

1148
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: you can get him off that train, like, and mackay

1149
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: can play left tackle the way he did froment you're

1150
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: hearing is the issue? Well, it has been. But he

1151
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: looks like ten pounds of stuff and five pounds of stuff,

1152
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, like last year. If he's in shape and

1153
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: McKay can play like this is gonna be a good

1154
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: offensive line, They're gonna be a good offense. The guy

1155
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: would be worried about. It's just Trey Lambs, you know,

1156
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: because I think there's so much expectations at the forty.

1157
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: Niners are still a deep playoff team and we'll we'll

1158
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: find out if Garoppolo plays, doesn't play get straight or whatever.

1159
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: But you know, it looks like they're ready to turn

1160
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: things over to him and he just hasn't played a

1161
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of football, and so how's that going to translate?

1162
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: And can he in big games make five or six

1163
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: great throws to win those games? I love, I love.

1164
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: It's just like a spin the wheel of Baldi. You

1165
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: give him any topic and he's got some good story,

1166
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: whether it's Matt Ryan's rookie season. During the preseason, I

1167
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: brought up Mac Jones to you in the news room

1168
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the conversation. We can take this out

1169
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: if you don't want it to be public. It's not

1170
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: live that you said you noticed how he was zoning

1171
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: out a lot at the on the sidelines, and he

1172
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: told you he was practicing meditation. That's that's breaking news. Well,

1173
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's breaking news, but I'm curious,

1174
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm a deep meditator, like I'm a yoga.

1175
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm a yoga, so we meditate. But you know, like

1176
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of the look that we have when we're

1177
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: just in Anama State. But I've never seen a player

1178
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: just go into a like a meditative state during the game.

1179
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, he almost looked like he was a zone.

1180
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: And you're listening to mcdanie. I'll never forget well sometimes

1181
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: like Daniels sitting there right next to you, but I'll

1182
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: never forget this one sequence at the Cowboys, Like remember

1183
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: that game against Alice, right, Greg, So he throws a

1184
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: pick six Trayvon Diggs takes it to the house, the

1185
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys take the lead. He comes back onto the field

1186
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: after his meditation and throws a seventy five yard touchdown

1187
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: past on the next play take the leave right back,

1188
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: Like that's an example of just you know, tabula rasa,

1189
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: just you know, cleaning the slate, and that's what you

1190
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: can do in that spot. And how about that? That

1191
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: is a glowing endorsement of mac Jones by Baldi and

1192
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: yet Greggy he said it was Zack Wilson that he's

1193
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: most excited. I'm not worried we had our mack Jons.

1194
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: We're both, you know, very high ceiling. And finally, because

1195
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: Baldi could talk anything, and he probably knows both these

1196
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: men personally, so perhaps he can give us some inside

1197
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 1: the slap. Will Smith, Chris Rock your take. We want

1198
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: your unvarnished take on what went down? Was it the

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: Academy Awards, Like unfortunately for the next ninety three years,

1200
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see or hear so like it's

1201
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna live in infamy and that's something fortunate for Will Smith.

1202
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Chris Rock. He's making a joke.

1203
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: He's a comedian, that's what he does. Um, I thought

1204
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: it was misplaced temper by Will Smith. And do you

1205
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: know either men personally? I don't know. I don't. I

1206
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: mean Will Smith is you know, he's the fresh prince

1207
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: of bel Air. He's he's a Philadelphia you know, he's

1208
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: one of our own board and raised. Yes, so on

1209
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: the biggest of stuff. But otherwise you've said it all.

1210
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: Busy man. We always love having you on the show

1211
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: and the first time in the Chris Westling podcast video.

1212
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: Thank you man, I appreciate man. Thanks alright, we're done. Yeah,

1213
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: that was perfect. He rolled in and uh the show.

1214
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: Anything we need to add Ricky before we say goodbye. No,

1215
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: you guys crushed it, absolutely crush it? Did we? Yeah?

1216
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: It's fine. Do you always say that to him? Like

1217
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: do they ever not crush it? And what do you

1218
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: say when they don't? You like coming like Chris Rock

1219
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: and just slap them away? Actually I actually did. I

1220
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: thought Greg was a little presumptive with some of that

1221
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: we're going to be part of the sports Century of

1222
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: NFL stuff. But it was a joke. You know. I

1223
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: know you don't like to think about your mortality, but hey,

1224
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta all face our maker at something.

1225
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: I listen, I live life like Baldi. Listen, You're only

1226
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: on the marble for a few spins. I mean, if

1227
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: I jump in a shark cage right now, I would. Yeah,

1228
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go do a Bobby Wagon and breakdown

1229
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: right now. There he goes. Thank you. We'll be back

1230
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: on Friday, of course with the Around the NFL broadcast

1231
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: on NFL Network, so make sure you check that out.

1232
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: And then uh and Mark, by the way, he promised

1233
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: via text that he would be back for the television show.

1234
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a cell. All right, that's it. Thank

1235
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening. Thank you to Baldi's Dan hands

1236
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: Is signing off for the old Boss Ricky Hollywood, Randy

1237
01:03:54,240 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: shop has Lass, the Green Figger. Baldi's funny. He's still

1238
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: that guy. He's a cough