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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Keith.

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Speaker 1: The Titans lost in Indianapolis twenty three to sixteen, dropping

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Speaker 1: their record to two and three on the season. I

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Speaker 1: visited with head coach Mike Vrabel on Monday to discuss

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Speaker 1: Sunday's loss and the upcoming trip to London to face

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Here's my conversation with Mike Vrabel on the OTP.

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Speaker 1: You're headed to London to play the Ravens this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Today's Monday. What happened today and how does the rest

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Speaker 1: of the week go.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's about us getting our guys back here and

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Speaker 3: you know, getting healthy and getting treatment and you know,

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Speaker 3: players were off today. We're gonna go tomorrow, We're gonna work.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna practice and start preparing and that's uh, that's

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Speaker 3: our charge. We'll work through the week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 3: We'll leave Thursday after practice. But we got a lot

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Speaker 3: of work to do in a short amount of time.

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Speaker 1: When you get to London, what's the timeframe, say on Friday.

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Speaker 1: How does Friday work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're we're excited about going over there. We'll

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Speaker 3: we'll we'll land, we'll get to the hotel, probably do

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Speaker 3: some some exercises, warm up, loosen up, just kind of

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Speaker 3: get up, you know. Hopefully we'll sleep during the plane.

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Speaker 3: I know we will, and we'll we'll meet and get

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Speaker 3: things going and then get back on schedule.

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Speaker 1: How is this different on the body from say a

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Speaker 1: West coast trip. What are the challenges?

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Speaker 3: I thought we felt okay going over you know, I

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Speaker 3: think there's some adjustment coming back. I didn't think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, there was much. I thought there was good

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Speaker 3: energy from what I can remember the last time, you know,

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Speaker 3: ultimately the game didn't go our way, but I just

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Speaker 3: felt like coming back there was more challenge of getting

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Speaker 4: I thought going over there we were okay.

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Speaker 1: The team was certainly ready to play against the Chargers

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Speaker 1: five years ago. Didn't seem to be any effort issues

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Speaker 1: or guys being tired or anything like that. Are there

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Speaker 1: things that you have changed in a major way from

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Speaker 1: the trip five years ago?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think too much. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's different ways of going about going over there. I

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Speaker 3: know the Ravens are going today that that's what they're

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Speaker 3: going to do. And I've talked to teams that have

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Speaker 3: gone over there for the week, talk to teams that

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Speaker 3: have gone over there Thursday after practice, and what's most

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Speaker 3: important is that you play well on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a scouting report on Tottenham Hotspur Stadium?

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Speaker 4: Assive yet?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we saw some of that game and

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Speaker 3: heard the conversations about it. You know, whatever the turf

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Speaker 3: is looks to be a great stadium. You know, we'll

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Speaker 3: have to see how the turf reacts and we'll talk

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Speaker 3: to both of those equipment managers and get their thoughts

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Speaker 1: You prepare your team for crowd noise, Like on the road,

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Speaker 1: the offense is going to have a hard time sometimes

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Speaker 1: at home the defense has a tougher time communicating. How

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Speaker 1: do you prepare in that way for this game? Maybe

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Speaker 1: without the knowledge of how and when the crowd will react. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they cheer for the kicks, you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean there's always excitement when we kick. Everybody kicks the football.

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Speaker 3: And there's a whistling dullness throughout right.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the game. You would like to kick less this week,

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Speaker 1: particularly when you're in the Ravens red zone. How do

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Speaker 3: You know, we were close on the one which led

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Speaker 1: That'd be a good start in rewatching the game this morning.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Titans were very close and several

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's always going to be about our banked

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Speaker 3: rep stuff that we feel good about throughout the season

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Speaker 3: You know, defense is number one in the league or

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Speaker 3: you know, so it's not going to get any easier.

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Speaker 4: This week.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins eight catches for one hundred and forty yards.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's the short pass, the medium length pass, the

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Speaker 1: the on the cold sideline, he just keeps doing it.

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Speaker 1: What's his secret? Why is he so good?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he's talented. I think he's got a

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Speaker 3: Yesterday I felt like even though he had great production, uh,

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Speaker 3: So he's got a good feel and I think they're

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Speaker 1: In watching him over the year, is always so impressed,

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Speaker 1: but now that he's a Titan, in watching him day

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Speaker 1: to day, DeAndre Hopkins has a unique understanding of how

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Speaker 3: He's got great body control, and I think to understand that,

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Speaker 3: I think he's got good play strength, you know, and

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Speaker 3: you know, we need to continue to find him and

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Speaker 3: he's got to help us.

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Petiff back on the offensive line this week. What

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Speaker 1: are the plans for him.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, continue to progress and evaluate what

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Speaker 3: we need to do. If Nick's one of those guys

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Speaker 3: You know, for over a month since since the end

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Speaker 3: I thought he was willing, you know, just needs to

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be better this week.

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Speaker 1: What is Mike Rabel's message for the defense this week?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we were obviously we're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't you know, put out there what

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Speaker 1: Was there any surprise on the tape to you about

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Speaker 3: Played a Baltimore team this week that certainly is physical.

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Speaker 3: been for the last thirty years. What jumps out to

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Speaker 3: They mixed, they distribute the ball. Lamar is doing a

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Speaker 1: That's my Monday talk with Mike Vrabel. A reminder of

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Speaker 1: the Titans and the Ravens square off in London at

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Speaker 1: eight thirty Central this Sunday morning at Tottenham Hotsprus Stadium.

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Speaker 1: The award winning Titans countdown start at seven thirty am Central.

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Speaker 1: We hope you'll join us. We also hope that Titans

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Speaker 1: fans will join us for a cup of Duncan. It's

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Speaker 1: always game on with Duncan, so grab a coffee and

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Speaker 1: kick off the action. Whether that's drinking a cup on

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Speaker 1: your way to the game or grabbing one to go

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Speaker 1: before watching the game at home, Duncan is always there

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Speaker 1: to help you get your game on. Just like the pros,

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Speaker 1: we need to be at our best come game time,

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Speaker 1: which is why Duncan is the most important part of

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Speaker 1: your game day ritual because it's always the best call

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Speaker 1: for football America runs on Duncan. Botp continues with my

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Speaker 1: Titans radio colleagues Ret Brian and Ramon Foster as we

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened on Sunday in Indianapolis a little

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Speaker 5: Most surprising statistic.

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Speaker 1: Of the game for me, if you take out the

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Speaker 5: Each team only had seven possessions. That's crazy, right.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, you also call that divisional matchups.

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Speaker 4: And also there is also.

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Speaker 5: Structurally, you know, when I'm up there behind you and

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Speaker 2: And that's boom boom boom, one after the other. And

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Speaker 1: Well, and let's take it from there, which is really

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Speaker 6: have negative plays, especially when you're on the road. You

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Speaker 6: whether that be one of those possessions NWI had the DBB.

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Speaker 4: You can't have those situations right there.

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Speaker 1: And for example, Henry has Hopkins open in the end

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to something and I'm not trying

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Speaker 5: I say this, and we all know this is such

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Speaker 5: rosters thirty percent turnover every year. It's nearly fifty percent

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Speaker 5: this time around, and even greater on offense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: so you know. But people would say, but Reht, they've

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Speaker 5: I just think this team is still trying to find

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Speaker 4: And here's the other.

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Speaker 4: But you look at the play calling. I like it.

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Speaker 6: We had conversation during the game, guys like the coach

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Speaker 4: If we can be mad at this week. We weren't

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Speaker 2: When they hit no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: So it's not a fact that the operation isn't working

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Speaker 6: But it's a matter of executing in that tight red

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Speaker 6: And and also here's the thing too, if a guys

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Speaker 4: Those guys have to make those players.

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Speaker 6: And I know there's people all over you when it

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Speaker 6: At this point, you got to step up and make

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Speaker 1: And you know, the culture going to be good in

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Speaker 5: In other words, you have to be precise. And Tim

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Speaker 2: It was there.

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Speaker 5: Henry just threw the ball a little too.

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Speaker 1: Far, and right now Tannehill being late or Henry throwing

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Speaker 6: Everything, it's a game of bench is at all times.

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Speaker 6: It's very smart people in this league too, when it

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Speaker 6: those small player mistakes. It's kind of the way I

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Speaker 6: you know, everybody's taking a turn almost in a sense,

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Speaker 2: Well Ramon Mike Rabel says it every week.

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Speaker 5: Don't do dumb stuff that messes up the team, and

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Speaker 5: that's what we're talking about. But to bring this to it,

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Speaker 1: Interesting, defensively surprising. I mean to see Zach Moss go

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Speaker 4: Honestly, Mike, Yes, yesterday they were.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think we've seen this offensive line from

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Speaker 4: Let everything's set.

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Speaker 6: This league is built on revenge and trying to one

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Speaker 4: They again, the d line.

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Speaker 4: But it was simply this.

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Speaker 6: where they couldn't see the ball because Zach Moss was

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Speaker 6: patient behind them. And when you have that type of

443
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Speaker 6: patience to where you can move that defensive line and

444
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Speaker 6: also get to the second layer of the linebacker corps,

445
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Speaker 6: that's a long day at the office. Those linebackers couldn't

446
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Speaker 6: find the gaps that they needed to because of what

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Speaker 6: was happening on the first level.

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Speaker 5: And Ramona, you're right, because the stat sheet will tell

449
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Speaker 5: you part of the story when you look at the

450
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Speaker 5: final defensive stats. Five tackles from the defensive line of

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Speaker 5: the Titans, twenty five from the linebackers and Gibbons and

452
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Speaker 5: al Shire. But it's almost too late at that point

453
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Speaker 5: because they've crossed the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Well, he had a Frank Gore like performance. That's what

455
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Speaker 1: it looked like to me. Frank Gore five nine two

456
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Speaker 1: point fifteen, not the fastest guy in the world, but

457
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Speaker 1: powerful legs and he would wait and wait and and

458
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Speaker 1: make the cut and then he would be you know,

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Speaker 1: that quickness that he had, he could get to a

460
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Speaker 1: much higher speed at the second or third step. He

461
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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna run off and leave you. And Jack Moss

462
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Speaker 1: made the long run because it was wide open, not

463
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Speaker 1: because he's a speed demon, but the power, the confidence,

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Speaker 1: the rhythm that they had. And I think if that

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Speaker 1: if you're a Titans fan, that's what drove you crazy,

466
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Speaker 1: because they rarely let a back get that kind of rhythm.

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Speaker 1: They've never let Jonathan Taylor get that kind of rhythm

468
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Speaker 1: in a game. Zack Moss had it in a Frank

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Speaker 1: gore esquay in the ball cap.

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Speaker 6: So what you're saying, Mike, they're not throwing tall sweeps

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Speaker 6: out there to Zack Moss.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's what's the most frustrating about it

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Speaker 6: is you hadn't seen this defensive line. Let's start there,

475
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Speaker 6: this defensive line get moved around like this, get controlled

476
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Speaker 6: like this. And that was what was most frustrating, because

477
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Speaker 6: you were looking for answers from Jack Gibbons, from a

478
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Speaker 6: Zi's outstar or either the safety filling. And I know

479
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Speaker 6: what a lot of people were probably thinking, well, sin

480
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Speaker 6: run is that? Well that becomes an issue too, because

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Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew after Anthony Richardson went out, has the ability

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Speaker 6: to go downfield, and he did so if you're willing

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Speaker 6: to sacrifice sending run blitz is out a team that

484
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Speaker 6: will simply dump off the ball in a.

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Speaker 1: Pass row because they had a good bit of drop

486
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Speaker 1: back well, and Minshew is going to be more able

487
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Speaker 1: to do that than Richardson. It's almost as if once

488
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Speaker 1: that run game got started and Richardson went out, Minshew

489
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Speaker 1: was a better answer for that particular situation. He may

490
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Speaker 1: not be if we see him December fourth, but for

491
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Speaker 1: how that game was flowing, it almost worked out better

492
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Speaker 1: that the for the Colts, at least that they had

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Speaker 1: to switch quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: And Minshew's an experienced guy. Ritt he is, and the

495
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Speaker 5: Titans have been unfortunate to see this end of it

496
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Speaker 5: in a Jacksonville uniform. And yesterday in Indianapolis, I think

497
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Speaker 5: you said it best during the broadcast. He is a

498
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Speaker 5: lot like Ryan Fitzpatrick in terms of being a streaky player.

499
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Speaker 5: When he's good, he's really good. When he's bad, he's bad.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday he was good.

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Speaker 4: He was good.

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Speaker 6: And one thing we talked about in the pregame show

503
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Speaker 6: on Titans Radio was this right, make the rookie look

504
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Speaker 6: like a rookie, and he did. He threw the ball backwards,

505
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Speaker 6: gave up a sack to Roger McCurry. But then the

506
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Speaker 6: vet came in and of course he was able to

507
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Speaker 6: see the play calling down or the defense down the field,

508
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Speaker 6: and we saw him capitalizing those things, those double moves

509
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Speaker 6: that of course they were strategically throwing at. Christian Fulton

510
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Speaker 6: played a part in it. As soon as he throw it,

511
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Speaker 6: throw the ball, you guys saw the replay like I did.

512
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Speaker 6: He fist pumped because he knew and his intellectual mine

513
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Speaker 6: as a veteran quarterback in this league, even as.

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Speaker 4: A backup, that was what they were looking for.

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Speaker 6: And those are the issues you kind of run into,

516
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Speaker 6: or you don't want to run into, when you're playing

517
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Speaker 6: against the rookie quarterback. So Mike back to your original point.

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Speaker 6: At the rate that the game was going, it was

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Speaker 6: fit for Gardner Minshew to come in and flourish.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about going forward to London

521
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Speaker 1: for the Titans. Coming off the performance in Indianapolis, there

522
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Speaker 1: are fans, commentators, everybody saying changes need to be made

523
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Speaker 1: because you're going to London. Is this almost a little

524
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Speaker 1: bit like playing on Thursday night, where it's very hard

525
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Speaker 1: to make many changes due to not the length of

526
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Speaker 1: time because you've got a week, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're going to certainly lose some preparation time with the

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Speaker 1: travel and getting used to things in London.

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Speaker 6: You almost have to sis still unless something's been agregious.

530
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Speaker 6: When you lose, everything's highlighted. And that's what sucks about

531
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Speaker 6: this league. You're not really giving many mulligans unless you're winning.

532
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Speaker 6: When you're winning, you can cover stuff up, but when

533
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Speaker 6: you lose, people won't changes, and you kind of expect

534
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Speaker 6: them to be the case too. That travel to me

535
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Speaker 6: kind of says this. If you have a guy that

536
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Speaker 6: you're highlighted that's become a problem to your defense or

537
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Speaker 6: to your offense, you let them start the game, but

538
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Speaker 6: you understand you let a guy know that, hey, there

539
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Speaker 6: is a leash in this game. There's not many opportunities

540
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Speaker 6: to have an international loss like this, and the fact

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Speaker 6: that you have a bye week after the International Games,

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Speaker 6: you kind of lend yourself to say, hey, either go

543
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Speaker 6: all out or come out. And that's where you lay

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Speaker 6: your head on the fact that you hope the guys

545
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Speaker 6: are professional enough to ask the call, so did You

546
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Speaker 6: don't have to make those changes and put yourself as

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Speaker 6: a coach and the player in the bast situation, because

548
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Speaker 6: nobody wants to fail in this league. It's just that

549
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Speaker 6: sometimes you get bestedt or you get beat out.

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Speaker 1: And the bottom line is there's a big difference for

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Speaker 1: the Titans between three and three and two and four

552
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Speaker 1: RED big difference, especially saying an Atlanta team coming in

553
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Speaker 1: here after the buye who is clearly improved, and then

554
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Speaker 1: you turn around and go to Pittsburgh on Thursday night.

555
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Speaker 1: Hard to win in Pittsburgh anytime. Hard to win in

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh on a short week in prime time as well.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to go.

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Speaker 5: Two games under five hundred, No, and if you can,

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Speaker 5: if you can be five hundred, you have somewhat survived

560
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Speaker 5: the gauntlet of five straight AFC games, you know, by

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Speaker 5: getting a win over Baltimore the other thing, and this

562
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Speaker 5: is not something that the Titans are concerned with, but

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Speaker 5: when you're just think of this from a bigger view,

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Speaker 5: you only have two home games in two months. You've

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Speaker 5: got the Falcons game that you mentioned, and then you

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Speaker 5: have on the twenty sixth of November, the weekend of

567
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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving against Carolina, and the rest of it is, you know,

568
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: space is because of scheduling and road stuff, so you

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Speaker 5: gotta make this count. The only problem is is that

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Speaker 5: just like you, the Baltimore Ravens are going to London

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Speaker 5: with a seven point division loss in their pocket, just

572
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Speaker 5: like you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's where it's gonna start to get a

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Speaker 6: little sticky too. And here's the thing too, it's a

575
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Speaker 6: copycat league. We all know that they're gonna watch that

576
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Speaker 6: coach Tate Baltimore that is, and say we got to

577
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Speaker 6: do similar things. We got to either slow down possessions,

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Speaker 6: make the plays that are right in front of us,

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Speaker 6: attack where they saw weaknesses. Sharing up the back end

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Speaker 6: of the defense has to play too. But here's the

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Speaker 6: other aspect of it, guys, Russian covers always work hand

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Speaker 6: in hand. We can talk about the back end of

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Speaker 6: the defense all we want so, but getting out the

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Speaker 6: quarterback is going to.

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Speaker 4: Be crucial, and especially crucial this week.

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Speaker 6: With a running quarterback like mar Jackson, you gotta be

587
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Speaker 6: able to bollow him up. Coach Max speaks about that

588
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Speaker 6: all the time. Bollowing up the guys in the pocket

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Speaker 6: and making sure they can't see down the field. The

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Speaker 6: Coats game is set to a guideline for other teams

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Speaker 6: if they can't get off blocks and see where they

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Speaker 6: actually need to be. When it comes down to this

593
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Speaker 6: front line and linebacker corps, it could be a long

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Speaker 6: day because Lamar is out for as many wins as

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Speaker 6: the team is too.

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Speaker 4: And to get above five hundred themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bottom line two is they can do the same

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Speaker 1: things Indianapolis did better.

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Speaker 5: They've got more weapons, They've got more wespins usual Gus

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Speaker 5: Edwards and Justice Hill and oh, by the way, Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in that game against the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday six carries forty five yards seven and a half

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Speaker 5: a carry.

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Speaker 1: And until yesterday he had been deadly accurate. Didn't play

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Speaker 1: as well yesterday, but you know, and they certainly have

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, they have the weapons outside to throw to,

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Speaker 1: they have tight ends. I mean, there are things that

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Speaker 1: are in place for them. So I mean you have

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Speaker 1: to think they're looking at that saying, okay, let's go

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Speaker 1: do that what Indianapolis did and even try to do

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Speaker 1: it better. And oh, by the way, their defense is

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Speaker 1: better too, so not gonna get any easier in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. The Titans have to get their stuff together.

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Speaker 6: They do, and the portion of Lamar's game Sunday and

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh was this. He dropped some dimes to his wide

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Speaker 6: receivers and they dropped them. They simply dropped them through

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Speaker 6: their hands, hit them in the face. All the cliches that.

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Speaker 4: You want to say.

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Speaker 6: So you expect him to press them this week, and

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Speaker 6: I would almost expect those guys to want to have

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Speaker 6: a big bounce back game as a receiving core with Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: But this defensive line has to also answer the call

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Speaker 6: to you gotta flush Lamar out in the way that

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Speaker 6: makes him skittish when it comes down to his ability

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Speaker 6: to make plays on you man, and again defensively controlling

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage for this This is one thing

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Speaker 6: I'll say about this Baltimore defense.

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Speaker 4: They got some big old boys the middle.

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Speaker 6: Always they do, and I hated them, and I know

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Speaker 6: you guys, it was just the same.

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 6: But controlling them at the line of scrimmats Man has

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Speaker 6: to be more crucial this week because Mike, we talked

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Speaker 6: about seven possessions between the Coats and the Titans last week.

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Speaker 6: It may be even fewer about the same amount this

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Speaker 6: week if you don't capitalize on controlling that line of

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Speaker 6: scrimmas because both teams have to be adamant and we

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Speaker 6: got to make sure Jeff is good. We got to

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Speaker 6: make sure Tierra's back on the field as much as possible,

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Speaker 6: and plays be made at the line of scrimmers before

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Speaker 6: that team gets started, because they have the running back

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Speaker 6: personnel and the wide receivers. It kind of hurts you.

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Speaker 5: Well, you just talked about how the accuracy part for

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson and the drops yesterday. Zay Flowers eleven targets,

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Speaker 5: five receptions, Mark Andrews the tight end ten targets, six receptions.

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Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, we just saw Zaire Franklin.

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Speaker 5: They traded for Roquan Smith, who's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's another one who can make twenty tackles at

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Speaker 1: the drop of a hat. And by the way, hats

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Speaker 1: off Desire frank that's good football.

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Speaker 4: He's playing lifestyle right now.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 6: And also there's a I like this game, this match

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Speaker 6: up because there's a little beef between these two teams.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's set to be an International Chaotic Game

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Speaker 4: is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Seat Geek is the newest member of the

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Speaker 1: Titans family. If you haven't heard the name yet, get

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Speaker 1: used to it, because you'll be hearing it a lot

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Speaker 1: more this season. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to

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Speaker 1: Titans games or any other live event in Nashville, Seat

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Speaker 1: Geek is the place to do it. Seat Geek the

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Speaker 1: new official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans

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Speaker 1: fans can fan you ready to go to London?

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, We're going to do it

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Speaker 1: for Brett Brian and Ramone Foster. I'm Mike Keith, thanking

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