WEBVTT - Alexandra Kay: Sophomore Album ‘Second Wind,’ Meeting Jelly Roll, and Dream Collab 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.480 Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:08.920 me Tommy Didario. So this is a very special episode 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.760 because I got to sit down with an amazing artist. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.720 Her name is Alexandra Kay, and I did an interview 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.880 for iHeart National Content. But I enjoyed the interview so 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.640 much I wanted to put it on my podcast, And 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.200 of course I had to ask her my signature question 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:24.919 at the end, which I'm going to get to in 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.360 a minute. But Alexandra Kay is an incredible, incredible country 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.040 singer who has an amazing story. Her sophomore album is 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.880 out now. And a side note, if you haven't heard 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.280 her song Straight for the Heart, you guys, it is 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.960 so good. I listened to it on repeat in the gym. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.240 But what I really love about Alexandra and I let 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.479 the interview feeling so inspired. She had some cards stacked 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.040 against her at one point in her career, but she 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.519 didn't let that stop her. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:52.960 She took matters into her. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.600 Own hands and in many ways is successful today because 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.400 of choices she made on her own. She didn't wait 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.280 around for people to give her permission. She did it herself. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:04.959 And I think this is such a great message for 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.600 anyone who's pursuing anything in any different avenue or lane 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.520 to keep going after your dreams. If you believe in yourself, 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.199 you can do it. You don't have to always rely 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.400 on someone else. So for that reason alone, I think 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.279 she is spectacular. But let's also talk about the talent, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.920 because she is so brilliant and such a great singer songwriter. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.280 So I'm really excited for those who know Alexandra, for 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.520 you to hopefully hear a different side to her, and 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.080 for those who don't to get to know someone who 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.720 definitely should be on your radar. And her never said 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.320 this before moment at the end. Man, it is so relatable. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.000 It's something I feel like a lot of us don't 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.600 talk about, but we definitely all feel it. So I 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.440 hope you enjoyed this episode, and let's see if we 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.240 can get Alexandra to say something that she has never 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:55.680 said before. Hey guys, I'm Tommy Dedaria with iHeartRadio and 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:56.880 I'm here with the. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.000 Brilliantly talented Alexandra Ka. How are you? 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:00.760 How are you? 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.600 I am good. We're so happy to have you here. You, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.320 my friend, have been blowing up. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.240 Oh my gosh, thank you. I feel like it's just 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.320 I'm just hanging on for deal life, like you know 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.040 what I mean? Like that, I'm happy to be in 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.080 the whirlwind, that's for sure. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.040 Well what year you've been having? Right? 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.880 You have your second sophomore album out now, which is brilliant. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.160 I was just telling you, I've been listening to it NonStop. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:21.520 Thank you. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.080 So every song I'm like, you got the vocals, you 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.480 got the melodies, you've got the rhythm. I mean, there's bopsters, ballads. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.000 It is such a great collection of songs. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.959 Thank you. Tell me about the title first of all. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.240 So I decided to name it Second Win because I 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.799 wrote my debut album it's called All I've Ever Known, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.800 and I wrote that after coming out of a divorce 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.120 and I was with my ex for eleven years, and 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.680 so I wrote that record really as just kind of 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.320 a I have to do this for myself, because this 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.560 is how I've been processing things since I was a kid. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.960 It's writing songs or poems or whatever. And I didn't 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.919 know that everybody was gonna hear it, and then once 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.880 they did, they loved it, and I was happy about that, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.280 but it really brought them into my life in a 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.760 very personal way. And so I decided with the next 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.080 album that I wanted to keep those doors open and 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.080 still be very personal and bury myself. And so Second 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.160 Wind is really representing trusting someone else with my heart 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.600 again and like feeling like being in love again is 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.200 a possibility. And then I'm not completely closed off to it. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.160 And I've been with my boyfriend now for two years. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.160 So yeah, look at you smiling talking about him. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:26.840 He's the best. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.600 Look at you smiling. I love that. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.799 I love that your first album, you know, is something 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.119 that many of us experience, right heartbreak and going through 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.200 a tough breakup or divorce or anything like that in 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.360 a relationship. And then this album's like, you know what, 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.520 you can come through the other side for sure. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.680 And that's like the biggest thing that I say on stage, 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.920 because I'll sing a song like I Believe on the 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.760 last record, which was me at my absolute lowest and 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.800 feeling like, oh my gosh, how am I ever going 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.760 to get through my life when all I know is 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.840 this person? And then I'm able to follow that up 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.040 with a song like the last off this album or 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:04.360 what He Does or Second Wind, and I'm able to say, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.200 if you were feeling the last song, and you were 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.160 really relating to the lyrics of ever Leave. Please just 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.120 know that what I'm about to sing is where I'm 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.240 at now and you can be there too. I'm happier 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.159 than I've ever been, more confident than I've ever been, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.200 more in love than I've ever been, and that they 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.240 can find that too. You know they're relating to it. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.599 So I'm glad. I was happy to finally put some 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:24.360 happy songs out. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.760 Yeah, yeah, you know which one. I love Straight for 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.520 the Heart. I mean, come on now. First of all, 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.599 I feel like it's this like defiant breakup song. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.120 And yeah, again, many of us have been there before. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.360 The video is spectacular. I want to light someone's car 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.400 on fire now. I love it. It's so good. Thank 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.040 you talk to me about that song? What made you 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:44.880 be like, oh no, no, I need to record this. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.320 So this was my first pitch meeting I had ever had. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.720 And when I was an independent for a really long time, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.400 like I think in between my two record deals was 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.560 seven years or six years, and I decided to stay independent, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.839 and and during that time, I was really missing the 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.600 opportunity to record like all of the bangers that are 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.880 being written in Nashville, every single day, like we'd live 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.839 in such a crazy city where for every great song 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.040 that's written, another incredible song is written within the same hour. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.680 And it's it's something that I'm a lover of songs, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.240 Like I love performing, I love that aspect, but I 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.599 love songs first and foremost way. I love country music. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.000 And so my first opportunity with the label, I said, Okay, 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.599 gimme give me all the saws, so I want to 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.960 hear them all. And so I believe this was like 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.080 the second or third song that I was ever pitched, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.480 and I was in the room at BMG, and I 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.560 was like, okay, stop, can no one else can hear this? 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.920 Like it cannot be shared to anybody else. This has 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.080 to be my song. And then who would have known 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.800 it be my first top thirtyeth country radio. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.920 So come on, come on that. What was it about 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.120 the message that made you just fall in love with it? 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.599 Well, first of all, I definitely felt that. I definitely 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.480 felt like, Okay, I can't continue to stay in this 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.760 weird limbo of are we supposed to be together? 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:58.320 Are we not? 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.320 Like we just need to pull the trigger. The band 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.400 aid Austin, like let each other go. If that's what 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.560 needs to happen. And I'm a very hold on to people, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.760 and I have held on to people in my life 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.000 for way longer than I think that they actually really 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.279 deserve to be there in different instances in my life, right, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.800 even like when I was a teenager and stuff in 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.760 friend groups and stuff like that, and so that message 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.000 of just I need a clean break otherwise a piece 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.719 of me is always going to remain here really really 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.960 resonated with me. And then also of course I heard 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.640 like the first drop and that like crazy chorus, and 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.400 I was like, Okay, yeah it's a banger, and yeah, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:35.400 I'm happy with how it's done. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:36.960 That must be a fun one to perform. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.480 Yeah, it's really really cool, and it's now it's really 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.760 cool because of what it's done on country radio and 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.440 how it's helped me so much. It's now the loudest 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.240 song everybody sings every night. And I was used to 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.440 everlif being that one that everybody came for and straight 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.479 for the heart is kind of knocked it off its throne, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.280 which I think is cool. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.200 And it's a reflection of where you are now too, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.480 right like in a more like empowered place, stronger. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.720 Much stronger. I mean I was so weak when I 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.880 went through my divorce. I truly like did not know 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.640 how I was going to survive. Thank God for my 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.560 manager Beth, who let me live at her house while 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.440 I was going through it and helped me through the 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.520 whole thing. And yeah, I'm definitely stronger from it. I 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.440 look back and I'm like, wow, I have no idea 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.680 how to survive that, you know. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.440 But that's what's cool is your music is helping people 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.640 survive what they're going through. Like how you did it, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.040 you know what I mean. It's a really cool thing 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:23.720 that you did put it out there. I also imagine 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.760 a very scary thing to like hear your deepest, darkest, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.840 most sacred thoughts for the world to hear. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.400 Yeah, I was so terrifying actually that I called Beth 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.480 and I said, this cannot go out really Like I 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.880 was like, it's way too personal because I do get 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.360 very specific, I mean like painted and perfect. I'm like 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.600 naming off dates like do you remember, you know, August 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.600 fourteenth main stage on the beach Atlantic City. I was 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.280 singing his Cousines scene, Like I really go in depth 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.080 and get very very specific. All I've ever known, same 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.040 way I talk about the Yellow Kitchen and a lot 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.320 of people recognize that from my coffee covers on TikTok, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:07:59.840 and so I was like, no one's going to relate 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.720 to and they're going to be like, what a weird record, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.200 And it had the opposite effect, which is really cool. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.640 And now you know, people fall into my arms and 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.640 we have this really really crazy trauma that we both 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.120 made it through, and it's brought me so much closer 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.920 to my fans in like a way that I never 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.320 thought that I could relate to complete strangers in this 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:21.600 way and change everything. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:22.840 Yeah yeah, So. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.840 As a songwriter, how do you know where you want 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.840 to stop in terms of what you want to share, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.280 what's too much for you? 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:34.120 Well, I try to be very specific but also vague 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.760 enough to where I'm not hurting anybody on the other side. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.200 And so that's where I draw the line. You know, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.120 I could have very much aired out a lot of 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.320 horrible things that happened, but instead I said, I'll keep 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.560 the rest between him and me, you know, and I 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.320 that's just who I am as a person, and I 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:51.920 shared enough they got the hit. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.679 Yeah yeah, So for someone who hasn't discovered you yet, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.800 what do you want them to know about your music 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.480 and your artistry and where you are in this moment 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:02.280 in your career. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.360 Oh, just that it's healing, and that I do it 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.120 with a purpose. I do it so that we can 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.600 all relate. I keep them in mind in my writing. Yes, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.120 I'm writing for me, but I'll switch things up in 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.400 a way that make you feel like I'm writing about 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.760 you even though I'm also writing about me. And so 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.719 just that they're included in absolutely everything that I do, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.960 not just in the songwriting, but in the brand in 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.160 general in my career and how I represent myself on 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.800 what kind of role model I am, you know, to 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.160 the younger generation that's coming to my shows, and there's 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.760 more and more babies at the shows. It is crazy, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.240 which is is so cool because you know, you have 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.840 the moms that have their baby next to them, and 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.800 the baby singing Cube as a cowgirl, and that's what 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.480 all the girls, all the little girls love Cup as 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.640 a cowgirl. And then the mom is out there, you know, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.240 singing to ever leave. And it's just cool that I've 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:52.720 gotten to touch both generations. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:53.160 Really cool. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.160 So it's always going to be honest, it's not always 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.160 going to be comfortable to hear or to write. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.640 But it's always going to be honest, and I can't 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.360 wait to se where you're going to go because you've 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.240 already shared so much of your soul and but you know, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.320 put so much out there and have led us on 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.400 this journey of your life, and now you're in a 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.520 spot where we're all like cheering you on, and we 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.319 want to be in that spot too if we're going 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:13.400 through our own hardship. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.200 So where do you go from here? 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.960 That's been the question because I've been writing a lot lately, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.240 and to be so honest, I have an entire new 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.560 record completely written. I haven't cut anything yet, but it 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.840 is very me. It's just what I wanted to listen to. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.240 And so when I was trying to think of, Okay, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.480 how do I not make my last record but then 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.960 also not make the record before that, I was like, Okay, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.360 what would I want to listen to? Just write those songs, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.360 and so I did. It's just ended up kind of 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.360 falling in between all I've ever known and Second Wind, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.680 and it's a lot of really good fun stuff and 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.839 it's a lot of, you know, really sad things that 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.320 people just need to have a good cry in a 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.560 car about you know. And so that's how I've just 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.240 continued to stay authentic to myself as just what would 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:55.079 I want to hear you know. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:56.640 Oh, I want to hear that music. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:56.839 Now. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:57.959 You can't tease us like that. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.959 You can't see those I'm excited for you to get it. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.720 It's really good in the near near future. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.280 We'll see, we'll see, okay, yeah, right, I don't know. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.280 Okay, whenever it feels right, whenever it feels right. And 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.880 I also love how you kind of started your career 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:13.600 on your own, right. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.160 You were putting out these covers, the coffee covers, doing 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.000 these nineties country songs and original songs and posting it 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.119 on social media, and that's kind of where it all began. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.480 Right, It's definitely where it all began. I wouldn't be 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.960 where I am. I wouldn't have the song country radio, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.440 I wouldn't be in my incredible label deal. I wouldn't 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:32.040 have any of it. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:32.320 You know. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:33.920 The first time that I ever met Jelly Roll and 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.199 he took me on tour, I was completely independent. When 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.120 he took me on his arena tour. That changed a 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.760 lot of things for me too, and how I got 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.839 hooked up with my label. And when I first met him, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.320 I was sneaking into a party at my label that 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.800 I wasn't signed to yet, but I knew I wanted 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.400 to be there at one point, so I was like, oh, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.839 you can get me on the guest list. And I'm 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.959 just kind of walking around in there, and Jelly stopped me, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.680 and I was just like, I try to keep to 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.520 myself when it comes to people, like I don't want 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.480 to bother anybody, you know, so I just kind of 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.000 was looking at them like oh my gosh' and he 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.880 stopped me and said, coffee girl, what are you doing here? 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.480 And I was like I just kind of stared at him, 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.360 like how do you know me? That's crazy. I was 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.840 just thinking myself like don't embarrass yourself. And he's like, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.160 oh my gosh. We love watching you make your coffee 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.280 and seeing your covers in the morning. And that video 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.760 with Ian Randy Travis was so cool, and what was 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.640 you like going on tour with to McGrath and I 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.480 love that you're independent, and we became friends ever, you know, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.000 ever since, and then he ended up taking me on 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.320 tour I don't know, maybe three years later two years later, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.320 and that changed everything. So without the coffee covers, I 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.800 wouldn't I wouldn't be here. And now I have my 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.439 own coffee brand. It's called the Coffee Girl, and I 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.160 own my very own coffee shop. So never did I 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:43.440 think we'd come this far. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:43.720 Vist. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.880 Really, we love watching you make a coffee. It's like 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.000 the best asmr ever. Right, It's like, I mean, I'm like, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.280 I can't I can't look that cool making a coffee. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:51.600 You know. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.920 Sometimes I'm like I wish you guys could see the 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.520 bloopers of them, because sometimes it's like I go to 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.920 grab for a bottle or something and then like my 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.160 pitch is all off because I'm like reaching out like this, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.040 and then I'm like, dang, it started over pour the 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.000 syrup that I just put in the glass. Have to 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.600 redo the thing, And I just I think it's so funny. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.760 I just giggle to myself. I'm like, this is such 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.440 a weird thing that has changed my life. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.520 Yeah, but did you start doing that hoping it will 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:18.720 lead you where you are today? 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:19.199 Sure? 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:19.560 Sure? 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.640 I actually am really interested in social media and just 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.880 like the analytics side of it all, and I really 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.200 thank goodness because I know not all artists are like this, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.760 but I do truly enjoy it, so it's not hard 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.440 for me to get up and make contents like I 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.679 really like to do it. So back in twenty sixteen, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.479 I believe I had my first viral video on Facebook, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.079 I saying joe Leane by Dolly Partner. It got eighty 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.880 million views on Facebook waves book, a very weird thing 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:45.480 back then. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.040 By the way, I love that it's Facebook. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.480 People sleep on Facebook, and it's like, no, no, it's 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:50.160 a great app. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.160 Oh I could go on for days, me too, I 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.040 could go on, We'll have a pe. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.440 People are nicer on Facebook. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.600 Yeah, sometimes talked about that. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.440 Yeah, Oh you know. I can't win the internet always exactly. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.240 There's me and people everywhere. I always say that you're 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.040 not reaching enough people if all of your comments are nice, true, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:08.880 that's literally all it is. Like as soon as the 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.280 haters start coming in, I'm like calling my social media mudaa, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.200 like we're popping off. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.679 Blood's go put on. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.120 But I had eighty million on Joel and that video 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.560 ended up opening a lot of doors from me at 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.240 casting a Netflix original series called west Side because of 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.720 that video, and then I signed my second record deal, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.360 and when that ended and I went back home, I 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.080 was like, I felt so broken and just so discouraged. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.120 I had lost two record deals at this point, and 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.200 I was like, what am I gonna do? What is 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.320 the one thing I know? I know how to make 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.200 videos and just sing online and it's worked in the past, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.240 So let's figure out this new app called TikTok and 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.880 I get on there and I see that it's trending 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.720 to make coffee and to share your coffee recipe. That 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.640 was a trending thing. And I said, okay, we'll just 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.800 take what's trending and sing over the top of it. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:15:03.040 And it went off and look at you. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.960 Two albums later, Yeah, three tours in the last year. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.160 Within two years time, I think we did eight tours. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.120 It's crazy, like, look at everything you're doing. Thank you 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.040 and in many ways you took the power back yourself 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.000 and got here because of your own doing, which is 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.840 I think very inspiring for so many people watching. It's 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.160 like there isn't a hard stop because someone says there. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.080 Is exactly and that's the story. That's what I tell 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.600 everybody all the time. I'm like, I was devastated when 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.280 I lost my first deal, and I was like, this 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.440 is the end. Then I did it again, and when 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.680 I lost my second deal, I was like, mom, what 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.360 am I going to do? Yeah, like help me find 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.040 a new career path. I wasn't even I wasn't even 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.760 at the starting point yet. It's what's crazy is I 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.000 thought it was over and it had not even begun. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.920 And so so yeah, I love talking to new artists 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.360 and up and coming artists and independent artists and giving 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.720 them a lot of insight on just what they can 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.480 do themselves before they make that big jump to a label. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.080 I was so grateful to have built a really great 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.440 platform and career on socials. We already had been touring 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.600 for so long before I signed with BMG, so they 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.360 gave me an incredible deal and it's gone really well. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.120 All right, let's have like a little manifesting moment right here. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.240 Who would be a dream collab that would surprise us? 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.080 Not someone we might be like, oh yeah, I could 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.480 see that. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:22.040 A stream colasity that would surprise you, like Justin bieber 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.520 Ooh for sure. I love his voice. I think he's 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.120 such a great singer and so and I mean I 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.320 haven't heard him do it has he hasn't done anything country, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:29.680 has he? 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:30.960 I don't think so. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.400 I don't think so, but I think it would be 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.280 a great crossover, so manifesting that. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:34.800 There we go. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.760 If anyone can do it, it's you. It's very clear 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.120 from this conversation. I mean, come on here, we can. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.240 Do any gen Rosbiber. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that for sure. Well, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.600 my god, I could talk to you for like four 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.640