1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Ye, sure, it's time He and Low and Low and 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: lower Loo. Welcome to the Northy but Nice Show. I'm 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: your host from Shooter. It's Wednesday, Surprise guest we have today. 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Garrett couldn't join us on Monday, but he is here 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: today because Donnie is off. It is musical chairs on 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: the Naughty but Nice Show. Hey Garrett, are you there? 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Hello? Bobby. I love throwing people off. 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: You know, people are going to be listening to this thinking, 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 3: oh my god, it's only Monday, you know, and then 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: we're going to be like, Nope, it's Wednesday. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Surprise, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday. I do appreciate the fact that 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: everybody on the show, myself and all the co hosts 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: do have busy, busy lives and busy, busy jobs, and 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: so it is such a testament to you, Naughty's and 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the show that for the last five years we have 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: not changed co hosts. I've been on so many different 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: shows as a guest as a co host that they 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: seem like they change every other week. So I love 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: that we've kept the core group gro together, and if 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: it means a little bit of musical chairs here and there, 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy with that. Okay, let's jump into as show. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: What time is it? 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: My friends? It is tea time, big story at the 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: top of the show. So we're still talking about Timothy 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Shallo May. It was the Dune three launch and he 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: was not there. Now people are saying, what happened? Zandaya 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: was there? Robert Patterson, Oh, he looks fabulous in this 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: new role. He's joined this big franchise. However, one person 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: that was missing just two days after losing the Oscar 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: to Michael B. Jordan was Timothy Challo May. Now no reason, 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: official reason was given. The director praised Timothy, and I 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: think there was even a video message from Timothy. He 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: wasn't there. We know he's not working, we know he's 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: in LA. What is going on? Mindside has tell me 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: that he wasn't invited. That they didn't want this press 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: conference to be about the oscars. Every question that was 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: going to be asked. If I was a reporter in 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: the room, the first question would be about Timothy. How 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: are you doing? Why do you think you and so 40 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I think he had These publicists I was one for 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: a long time, are really smart. They don't want a distraction. 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: All they want us to talk about is the movie. 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Rob Patterson joining this movie is a big deal, so 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the takeaway is about that. I think 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: it might be a good idea that he sort of 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: takes a step back. People seem to be over him. 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: People seem to be a little annoyed by Timothy. So 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: maybe if he disappears for a little bit by the 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: time this movie comes out at Christmas, we might be 50 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: excited about him again. 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, let's look at it with 52 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: the glass half full, Rob, That's how I like to 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: look at life. 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: What if Timothy won Best Actor? 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: You're telling me that a movie that is on the 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: third leg of its franchise wouldn't want the extra press 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: with the Academy Award winner Best Actor who is now 58 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: starring in their franchise movie to be on stage with 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 3: the rest of the cast after winning the most. 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: Acclaimed award of movies. You know what I mean. 61 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: So you're right, yes, But I think you're proving my point. 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: If he had won, he would have been there. Because 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: he lost, and his behavior now is being questioned and press, 64 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: they didn't want him there. I don't think this was 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: decided two months ago, three months ago. They weren't like, ah, 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: don't invite Timothy. This was a last minute decision. He 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: was going to be there. People report he was going 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: to be there. 69 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: He didn't go to the premiere for the for the 70 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: second movie that came out a couple about a year ago. 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: He didn't even show up to that. 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: And that's why I think Timothy needs to really readdress 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: his behavior. Start showing up, start being nice. When you 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: do these movies, part of the movie. If you want 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: to be a movie. 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Star, I get it. 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: It's about the acting, it's about the art. You got 78 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: to sell the movie. I have worked with so many 79 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: stars who hated doing the junk kits. They had an attitude, 80 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: they were really rude to people. They just didn't want 81 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: to sell the movie. That is the job. I have 82 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: a book coming out. I love writing books. I'm not 83 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: necessarily the best at selling them, but I'm doing it. 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm sucking it up. I'm learning to lean into it. Timothy. 85 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: There is a real problem here for for people to 86 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: pretend that everything's just fine and he didn't win and 87 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: it's all going to be okay. I don't think they're 88 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: acknowledge in the truth there. I think that Hollywood has 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: turned on Timothy. 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: He might be looking and not looking at the bigger 91 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: problem here. 92 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: You know, it might not be Timothy. 93 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: It might be his girlfriend fiance, future fiance's manager, mom 94 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: pulling the strings back there, you know. Like I think 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: he's a victim's he's falling into that Kardashian victim of 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: just you know, listening and absorbing everything that they do. 97 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: And I think prior to him dating her, he was 98 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: king of the world, you know what I mean, Like 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: everybody wanted a piece of Timothy, you know, after the 100 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: ballet comments and this, like where is that? 101 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: You know? 102 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: I think if it was the other way around and 103 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: his girlfriend was in hot water, they would be saving 104 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: her life. Like I feel like Timothy is out on 105 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: his own and no one's out there trying. 106 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: To help him. 107 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought that. And there has been a lot 108 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: of backlash in Hollywood that this is Kylie Jennis Fulton, 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: she is a Kardashian. I jumped into it. I spoke 110 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: to several voters. I did a story on my substack. 111 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: She's more liked than he is. Like, if you don't 112 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: like the Kardashians, and a lot of people don't, I 113 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: get it. They get it. There's a lot of hate 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: towards the Kardashians. Nobody can say they're not in on 115 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the joke. They're funny, they make fun of themselves. They're 116 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: the first to laugh at how ridiculous their success is. 117 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: And so in Hollywood on the ground, just generally I'm 118 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: talking Kia, the Kardashians are not hated. They are respected 119 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: for the amount of work and hustle that they do. 120 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Kim and her sisters work really, really hard to be 121 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: these huge juggernauts. You don't get to billionaire status without 122 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: really putting in the work. So I think here that 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: at least this is what I'm hearing, it's him, it's 124 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: not her. They like her better than him. 125 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Conspiracy with this, I think because again everyone that voted 126 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: on the Askers correct is pretty much within the film industry, 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: Hollywood elite. Now, given, yes, the Kardashians are well respected 128 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: on their business side, and I think we've seen Kim's 129 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: acting on TV and a few movies. 130 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: Not the greatest, should say so, should say so herself. 131 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: I think if they allow Timothy to they voted Timothy 132 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: to win this award, he kind of would have taken 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: a back seat, because then that would have given the 134 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: Kardashians a front row seat into the Hollywood elite that 135 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: they're trying to break into as much as you know 136 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: what I mean. 137 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: Like so they kind of I can hear it. I 138 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: can hear but he's a victim of daning a Kardashian. 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I think that they would like to think that, 140 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's the easy excuse people. You're gonna 141 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: read these stories all week longer than that blamed the Kardashians. 142 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: My important to the opposite. I was shocked. They like 143 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: the Kardashians. They don't like him. He's a little spoilt 144 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: brat and they don't like his attitudes. And I think 145 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: it's really hard for people to grasp that he's not 146 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: a very nice guy. And the comments about the ballet 147 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: and the opera were just a revelation. The mask dropped 148 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: and he showed who he really is here, and it's 149 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: not somebody who's that inclusive or is that that supportive 150 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: of the arts. He's a snob. And so all the 151 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: analysis and there's gonna be a lot about this, and 152 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Timothy is gonna have to really do some soul searching here. 153 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: He can carry on, He can be Timothy, but he's 154 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: not part of that Hollywood click in the way that 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan is beloved here. So this is a 156 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: fascinating story. It's not going to end today. I love 157 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: that we don't. I love that we don't agree, sorry 158 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: on every single point, which brings us to our pole 159 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: question of the day. Timothy skipped or was he not 160 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: invited to the Doom three premere after losing the Oscars? 161 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: What do you think was he invited? They're not given 162 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: a reason. I've pushed them. They won't say why he 163 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: wasn't there. Do you think he was disinvited? Go vote 164 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: on our Twitter page add Naughty Nice rob. Our facebook 165 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to check back 166 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: tomorrow to here your results. Hey Garrett, what are you 167 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: working on? 168 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about one of our one of the 169 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: top couples that get mentioned pretty much on every podcast. 170 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: Megan Markole love all right, I love them. 171 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: So there is apparently drama happening with Netflix. You know, 172 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: does she walk out of meetings or is she just 173 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: a very busy mom working You know, there's some awkward 174 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: zoom energy, but you know, make it a little bit royal. 175 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: Meghan Markle is facing these claims that she would just 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: disappear from Netflix meetings when offended, as one accusation says, 177 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: she ruffled plenty of feathers. But again the other side 178 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: of the fence, Megan's team isn't having it. She's insisting 179 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: that they're insisting that these moments are far less dramatic 180 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: in which I can understand, and more about juggling, you know, 181 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: work from home life with two young kids, which if 182 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: you are a parent or even you have two dogs, 183 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: you know it's not the easiest, especially when that zoom 184 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: camera's on and the kids or the animals have no 185 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: idea what that means, and they just want to live 186 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: their life. And I get that, But you know that 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: looking at it from the bigger picture, obviously there's a 188 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: lot of tension always just with the name Megan Markle 189 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: and Harry attached to anything, really kind of mixed signal. 190 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: I think it's not uh. 191 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: I think it's something she wants, something at someone at 192 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: Netflix wants, but others don't uh. 193 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: You know. 194 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 3: But again, at the end of the day, everyone's looking 195 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: at this, possibly this partnership under scrutiny, but you know, 196 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: everyone uh is suggesting that Netflix execs are are frustrated. 197 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 3: Rightfully so, because you and I both know, Rob they paid. 198 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: A lot of. 199 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: Money, and if they pay you that much money, that's. 200 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: Why they don't pay us that much money. 201 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: On this podcast expectations. 202 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but but but others are saying that 203 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: it's a very solid project. Still it's in development, which 204 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it's been in development for the last 205 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: like five years or so. You know, at the end 206 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: of the day, it's just it's messy. And if it's 207 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: this messy, I don't think it's ever going to come 208 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: to fruition. So let's just take it for what it is. 209 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: Another loss, uh, and let's move on. 210 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, MESSI. There's a huge story in Variety. Variety is 211 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: the bible here for Obi's Hollywood Reporter, and Variety a 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: massive story, many many sources talking about what happened to 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: this deal. It has fell apart. Netflix and Megan are 214 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: lo longer together. There is a first look deal, which 215 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: means that any project Meghan and Harry does, they will 216 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: have a look at and then probably say no, but 217 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: they will have a look at. A first look deal. 218 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Is not that excited and so they are trying to 219 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: work on a movie. They optioned a book that has 220 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: been taken a while. But these projects do, they take 221 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: a really, really long time, So I don't have any 222 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: disrespect about that. What is interesting is some of the details, 223 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: and they are shocking. They claim in this Variety story 224 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: it's a really really important, really respected outlet, that Ted, 225 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: the boss of Netflix, would not get on a phone 226 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: call with Meghan unless there was a lawyer on the phone. 227 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: They also claim that she overtooked Harry in every meeting. 228 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: She would let him speak and then she'd put her 229 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: hand on his leg, which meant shut up, and she 230 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: would rephrase it the way that she wanted to be heard. 231 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: I think Megan is a very strong personality here. I 232 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: can see that there's conflict, isn't there within Netflix? And 233 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: it would all go away if they had a hit. 234 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: It's amazing in show business, you can be really naughty, 235 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: you can be really bossy, you can be even a 236 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: little bit rude, and if you deliver massive numbers, all 237 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: is forgiven. It's when the numbers aren't there that people 238 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: start to get really really nasty and really really critical. 239 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: And so this relationship is fractured and Netflix and Megan, 240 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: it didn't work out. I think Garrett's right. She was paid. 241 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: They were paid just far too much money. Would have 242 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: been better off taken a lower fee, I think, and 243 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: over delivering rather than taking this massive fee and not delivering. 244 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: So Meghan has trouble with Netflix. We know that. Read 245 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: them a rioting story today. It is fascinating. There are 246 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: some really startling details, lawyers being involved. And I do 247 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: love to on zoom calls. Megan and Harry do a 248 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: lot of zooms. If you said something that she didn't like, 249 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: she would turn off a camera and they said he 250 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: would just go black. Now just click hurt people saying, oh, 251 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: she had an emergency in the house. The kids were 252 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: in the room, the dogs are in the room. But 253 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: the carri right now, there you go, there you go, 254 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: there you go. I've upset Garrett and it goes black 255 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: on the screen there. So really it is fascinating. Okay, 256 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: moving along. Carol Radziwell, who's on The Real Housewives alf 257 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: New York. She's returning, has been left out of the 258 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Kennedy love story and there's a big, big series. At 259 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the moment, they are beautiful. I have a little bit 260 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: of a problem with it because Jack Schlosburg. His uncle 261 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: is JFK. Junior. He's my nagys so I live in 262 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: the same building as Jack. He's running for local office 263 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: for a local congressman. 264 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: Here in my distance. 265 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: That's how you start, That's how you have to start. 266 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: But I think it's good that he's doing that because 267 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: with his fame, he could run for president. I mean, 268 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: you don't need experience anymore to be a president. You 269 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: could just go from a TV show to be in 270 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the president. So Jack story Jack Jack Jack could do 271 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: that too. I think I like the fact he's paying 272 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: his dues. He's probably too famous for the position he's 273 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: running for. But nevertheless, Carol is being cut out of 274 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: the story. She was married to Anthony Radzawell, who is JFK. 275 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Junior's cousin. Antony's in the show. He worked to ABC. 276 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: I met him a few times. Is a really nice guy. 277 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Just before he died, he died really way, way, way, 278 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: way way too soon. Just before he died, he married Carol. 279 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: They worked together at ABC. Carol changed her name to Radswell. 280 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: She's kept that name. It's a very powerful name in 281 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: American politics and American culture. But she's not in the show, 282 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: and sources tell me she wasn't really part of the story. Like, 283 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: I get it. We all want to think that we 284 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: are a central character in every story. We're not. I 285 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: am a peripheral character in many of Bruce's famous friends lives. 286 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: If you did a documentary a series on some of 287 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: the famous people my husband Bruce knows, and it's possible 288 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: they could have shows done on them, I wouldn't be 289 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: in that show because I'm not really part of the story. 290 00:13:51,679 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm an annoy everybody, and so you're really part of 291 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: the show that. Carol doesn't want to admit that because 292 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: she has she has books out about the Kennedy She's 293 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: really really modeled herself as Kennedy adjacent. Even on The Housewives, 294 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: she drops the Kennedy names a lot. And then the 295 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: other reason she might not be in it, Carol was 296 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: really close friends with Gilain Maxwell. That's very no nobody 297 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: wants to talk about. 298 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: But Carol. 299 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: If you're looking for Carol, if you're looking for a 300 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: real housewife in love story, you ain't gonna find. Okay. 301 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Moving along, ZANDAA. Zanta is making a ton of news. 302 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Is she married it She's not married what's coming on? 303 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: Okay? 304 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: So, Rob, you were talking about playing the game and 305 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: promoting movies and why is it you know certain people 306 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: loved in Hollywood. This is why Zendaiya is loved and 307 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: beloved by all. 308 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: All Right, So you. 309 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: Might have seen her on Jimmy Kimmel and she kind 310 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: of answered the rumors to all the ai wedding picks 311 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: that have been sent around the internet saying that she's 312 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: married to Tom Holland and Spider Man and and she 313 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: even played into it and showed like a very poorly 314 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: edited clip with Tom's face pasted onto a. 315 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Scene from one of her movies. 316 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, she she jokes, she deflects, she 317 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: plays coy. 318 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: But let's be. 319 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: Real using this wedding buzz, it's super hype. Now, let's 320 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: be real. So she has the drama with Robert Pattinson. 321 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: She let's let's let's review Zindaya's week. She showed up 322 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: at the Oscars, right, showed up at the Oscars with 323 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 3: Robert Pattinson to present Okay. Week before that, her stylist 324 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: drops the bomb that he she's already married to Tom Holland. 325 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: Her stylist not not her, her stylist. She she's at 326 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: the Oscars. She shows up at Kimmel to uh to 327 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: to kind of like lay into the joke. So she 328 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: has one movie coming out, she also has she also 329 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: has another trailer dropping with her her soon to be 330 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: a husband or her current husband, Tom Holland, with the 331 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: new Spider Man movie coming out this week. 332 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: So she is she is using every source she has 333 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: as a publicists. 334 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: You should be just giving her a standing ovation for 335 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: doing everything right and all of us eating it out 336 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: of a spoon that is that is held by Zendeia herself. 337 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: It's delicious. It's delicious? Or is it too cute? Is 338 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: it calculated? There's a little bit of backlash here saying 339 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: are you you? Because what the thing is that the 340 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: partner bugsman let me get to the chaseer is that 341 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: she's a terribly private person and so so's Tom, and 342 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: so if you want us to respect your privacy, you 343 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. You can't dangle that wedding 344 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: as a carrot when you want us to talk about 345 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: your movie and then put it away. And so be 346 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: careful here, Zendea, like, wouldn't you open that door? I 347 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: know from experience from people I've worked with. Wouldn't you 348 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: open the door? If you've opened the door. Okay, we're 349 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. 350 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the naughty but Nisham and Robs shoot 351 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: with my idear friend Garrett. Let's get two third polls DA 352 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: DA Timothy SHALLAMAI confessed I hate this to a Kylie 353 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: Jenna at the Oscars. He doesn't like these big events. 354 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Will he learn a lesson? That's a big question. Hey, 355 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: we've seen all the backlash. We spoke about it at 356 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: the top of our show. Will he just keep being Timothy? 357 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Or is this a time to reflect when things don't 358 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: quite go your way? When there's a backlash? Do you 359 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: sit around if people around people you work with don't 360 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: like you, are they the problem or are you the problem? 361 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: I always think if it's one or two, it might 362 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: be them. But when it's three or four or five 363 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: or like quite a ten, then I'm like Rob Shooter, 364 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: you might be the problem. Will Timothy do that? Seventy 365 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: percent said no, he won't learn a lesson. I think 366 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: I agree. Hey, don't forget to vote on today's poll 367 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: about Timmy again. Naughty, nice Rob is a Twitter Facebook 368 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to check back 369 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: time Arauta. He your results and I'm a favorite part 370 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: of the show and nicest of the day. 371 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: No, all right, the man with the number one album 372 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: in the world. Harry Styles, Wow, you know and Zoe Kravitz. 373 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: You know they're they're the At first you thought it 374 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: was promotion for the album in SNL, but he's just 375 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: enjoying life as he's walking around with Zoe Kravitz all 376 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: over in New York City. You literally could live in 377 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: New York City right now, work in New York City, 378 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: and at any given time of the day see Harry Styles, 379 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: you know, waiting online for a pretzel or something like that, 380 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: or waiting for the subway. 381 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: Actually it doesn't take the subway. 382 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: Heard last week when he did SNL, he walked from 383 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: Brooklyn to thirty Rock every day every day. That was 384 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: almost an hour and a half to two hour walk 385 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: every day. 386 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: That I do it. I do it every day. 387 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Zoe and Harry spotted all over And it's interesting 388 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: because you know they've been very quiet, but yet you 389 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: know they're still seen together. And you know, who knows 390 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: what this is? You know when I was thinking about 391 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: this the other day, Zoe Kravitz, What a what a 392 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: list of people. 393 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: She's standing in the past, You know what I mean, like. 394 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: Famous Family, Channing, Tatum, Harry Styles. Yeah, I mean congratulations 395 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: to Zoe. 396 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: Wow. I love it. I love They're so cute together. 397 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: Nicest there now. And I noticed the day the Bachelorette, 398 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: it's in troubleless this crisis mode over at ABC. 399 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: Don't like her. 400 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: Taylor, Frankie paul I did not even know who she was. 401 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: But she's on this hit show, The Secret Lives of 402 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: Mormon Wives. I've heard of it. It's on Hulu. Who 403 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: ABC owen? So they knew who Taylor was. So she's 404 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: had a very controversial past. The new reports out there 405 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: that she now has to have a psychological test because 406 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: of abuse, domestic abuse, even child abuse has come up 407 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: that she might have done something with her child, and 408 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: so this is really shocking. ABC has a problem because 409 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: the Bachelorette debuse on Sunday. Now they knew who she was, 410 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: they knew she was messy. On the first episode of 411 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: the Secret Lives of Mormon Wife, she's arrested. The cameras 412 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: are there while she is arrested. So they knew what 413 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: they were getting into. What they didn't realize is that 414 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: advertisers would to be really, really angry, and advertisers now 415 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: have started to drop out. I'm told the show might 416 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: not even air on Sunday. It might be totally. 417 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: I would love these people. I would love for just 418 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: shove it. 419 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: I'm sick of rewarding bad behavior. It's so Bethany franc Call, 420 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: It's so Teresa Judici. The naughtier, the nastier you are, 421 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the more attention you get. I think we have to 422 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: say enough. 423 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: And you know what, I would just love to see 424 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: how you know, these fifty men who were hoping for 425 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: a reality star career post Bachelorette now have to go 426 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: back to working in normal lives as if they just 427 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: played reality show for pretend for too. 428 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: It didn't er. Okay, let's end with a moment of 429 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: rub rub. How does they calm when somebody annoys you? 430 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: So Arrogance is Annoyance is instant. Annoyance is instant, But 431 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: your reaction, that's a choice. Pause before your response, take 432 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: a breath and have a little bit of tiny space, 433 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: and that will give you your power. Not everything deserves 434 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: your energy. Ask yourself, will this matter in an hour? 435 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: And if not, let it go. Protect your peace like 436 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: it is valuable because it is set boundaries. You don't 437 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: have to engage or explain or even win. Sometimes the 438 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: strongest move is just stepping back. And remember people often 439 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: reflect their own stress, so it's not about you. Don't 440 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: take it personally. If somebody is annoying, if somebody is arrogant, 441 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: if somebody is rude to you, it's not about you, 442 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: it's about them. And the best thing to do, I 443 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: find is to walk away. You don't always have to 444 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: be and you certainly don't have to engage. Hey, that 445 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: is it for today. Thank you so much for listening 446 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: to The Naughty but Nice with Robin Garrett Show. We're 447 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: a production of Elvis Duran and iHeartRadio. Don't forget to 448 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: check out my substack robshooter dot substack dot com. I 449 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: just saw I'm the lead story today on the AOL. 450 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: It's my from my substack. 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