1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: We are very pleased now to be joined by our 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: friend Sean Davis. He is the CEO of The Federalist, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite sites of Federalist dot com. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Go check it out yourself. Sean pulls no punches, knows 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: lots of stuff. A very astute and feisty fellow, mister 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Sean Davis. Good to have you on. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Good to be on. Thank you for having me. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: So as as we see here discussing this, you no 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: doubt saw that Donald Trump is now on the hook 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: for I think it's almost five million dollars because of 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: this Egene Carol suit civil suit in New York. He 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: was not found liable for rape, but he was for 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: defamation and a sexual assault, but not rising the level 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: of rape. Is my understanding of how this judgment came down. 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: I want your reaction to that. And then also, are 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: they just gonna are they just gonna basically tie this 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: guy up with lawsuits and criminal charges and all kinds 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: of stuff in a way that makes a mockery of 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: the entire judicial system, Like, what do you think the 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: plan is here for the law fair against Trump going 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty four. 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh, however bad you think it is, I promise you 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: it's worse because it's not constrained to Trump. Now obviously 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: they're never going to leave him alone ever again, because 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: they're using him as an example to all other Republicans 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: that if you go off the reservation, if you don't 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: stay where you need to be, we will destroy you. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: We'll come at you with grand jury's in Georgia and 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: New York. We'll have a special counsel at the Federal 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: DJ coming after you. You will never have a RESTful night's 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: sleep again. You will always wonder, You'll always be looking 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: over your back, wondering if we're coming, how we're going 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: to get you next. But here's the thing. It doesn't 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: stop at Donald Trump. It's not like they're going to 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: get rid of Donald Trump. And some have be like, okay, 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: back to an even playing field, no more Shenanigan's, We're good. 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: Just look at what they've done with Jason. They are 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: criminalizing opposition itself to the regime. They're throwing in prison. 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: I think one guy for fourteen or fifteen years, he 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: never even entered the Capitol, He never even went into 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: the building on j six. They're trying to throw them, 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: put them away for fifteen years. So people need to 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: understand it doesn't matter if you hate Trump, this doesn't 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: stop with him. The left is insatiable. They want total control. 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: It's why they're coming after people's kids. It's why they're 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: coming after you on social media. It's why they're censoring you. 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: It's why they're throwing people in prison for a protest 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: while letting their own people set fire to cities across 50 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: the nation. They are criminalizing any opposition to their regime, 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: and people need to understand it's not about Trump, It's 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: about opposition to them. And if they can get Trump, 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: they can get anyone, including you. 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that they're going to try to not 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: only press additional criminal charges. I have to keep reminding 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: it almost sounds so crazy when you say it, right, 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: they're already trying to They've launched what is it, thirty 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: felonies or something, or twenty four felonies in New York. 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: The most absurd. Now everyone keeps talking about how sort 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: of is I worry that a New York jury. I mean, 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: we just saw one New York jury find against Trump 62 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: in a civil trial for which there was really no evidence. 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: It was just someone said something and the jury believed 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: this individual. Right. I worry what the jury will do 65 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: in the you know, Trump hush money payoff case. But 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: there's also Atlanta where there's possible charges coming from that 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: district attorney who has it's pretty clear it would be 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: something about the election, maybe even racketeering or conspiracy to 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: commit election fraud. There's some crazy stuff that's being talked about. 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: And then there's a special council looking at January sixth 71 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: and everything else. I bring all that up, Shawn, because 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: if they're willing to go to the mat on this 73 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: stuff and just burn down the village in order to 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: save it, right, why wouldn't they try to throw Trump 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: up in prison? He has no immunity from prison. 76 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm sure they're going to I mean, they 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: sent the Feds, an arm squad of Feds to his house, 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: which they had previously walked through and inspected with him, 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: raided his home, took pictures of it, through it on 80 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the internet, went through his wife's clothes. Yeah, they want 81 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: this guy and anyone who backed him, and anyone who 82 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: poses them gone forever by hook or crook. And you 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: look at New York, you look at DC, you look 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: at Atlanta. There's a reason they're picking these venues, and 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: it's because the rule of law in these areas, in 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: these blue cities is debt. If you are a Republican, 87 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: you are getting convicted. If you are a Democrat and 88 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: somehow you end up being charged, you're walking away scott free. 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean, just look at the situation with Michael Sussman. 90 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: This was the DNC and Clinton lawyer who was wrung 91 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: up by Durhams and Investigation for pedling false statements to 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: the FBI about the russanclusion hoax. They rolled him into 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: a DC jury, which is where the crime had to 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: be charged because where it took place. And I think 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: they acquitted him like in a day, if not in hours, 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: with one of the jurors saying, I don't even know 97 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: why we're here. This is a waste of time. If 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 2: you have the right politics, if you're wearing a blue jersey, 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: you're safe in a blue city. Nothing will happen to you. 100 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: You could throw molotov cocktails at cops, you can burn 101 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: down buildings, you can threaten people on a subway. Nothing 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: is going to happen to you. 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Just on the issue of using 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: the law and the DOJ perhaps as a weapon in 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: an election year against the Republican nominee who is likely 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to be Donald Trump. 141 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be difficult to pull up, 142 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: but it's actually simple, and we have to go back 143 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: to the Cold War to understand what has to be done. 144 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: You and I both grew up in the shadow of 145 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: the Cold War, under the specter of the Soviet Union 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: nuking us, and the theory that was used to kind 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: of keep everyone at bay, to keep everyone from going nuts, 148 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: was mutually assured destruction. The Soviets knew that if they 149 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: launched the first strike, yeah, that's fine, but before the 150 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: missiles even landed here, they were going to be obliterated 151 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: because we had the ability to send just as many 152 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: nuclear missiles over there as they had to send to us. 153 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: We also had a whole bunch of roving submarines around. 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: We had second and third strike capability. So everyone new, yeah, 155 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: you know, if we wanted to, we could launch a 156 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: nuke right now, but the result will be we are 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: going to get everything that we love nuke. That's how 158 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: you have to play with the left. They understand power 159 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: and they understand warfare by other means, and unfortunately people 160 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: on the right, especially the Republican leadership class, seem allergic 161 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: to actually fighting and doing things for the country and 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: for their voters and Republican leaders whether you're a da 163 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: or a mayor, or a member of Congress, or a 164 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: mid level staffer and a Republican administration, they have to 165 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: understand that. Until the left is made to feel the 166 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: pain of their own rules until they suffer under the 167 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: double standards that they've created for us. They will continue 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: to press the boot down on our next until we 169 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: can't even breathe anymore. So I would ask Das in 170 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: red counties, in red cities, why have you not indicted 171 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden? Why have you not hauled Joe Biden before 172 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: a grand jury and indicted him? Because we clearly know 173 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: that facts and law don't matter here. All that matters 174 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: is power. The left is wielding it. And if the 175 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: right ever wants to have its country back, if we 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: ever want to have the rule of lawback, we have 177 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: to start playing by their rules until they cry uncle. 178 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: And the thing is, look, I would much rather we 179 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: have the status quo legally that we had twenty years ago, 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: which is the law is what it says it was. 181 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: You get a fair and partial jury of your peers, 182 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: not a bunch of blue and on pink haired freaks 183 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: in San Francisco or Manhattan. But we don't live in 184 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: that world anymore, and Republicans need to understand that the 185 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: world has changed. It's not two thousand and three, it's 186 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: not nineteen ninety three. Reagan's not coming over the horizon 187 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: as the sun breaks to come save us, like we 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: need wartime leaders who understand what time it is. 189 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: Up on the Federalist, there's a piece by I believe 190 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: it's John Davidson. The culture war isn't the most important 191 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: issue of twenty twenty four, it's the only issue, and 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: he goes in to make the case, what do you 193 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: think about the role of what we generally termed culture 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: war for this upcoming election? What are the primary battlefields 195 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: to fight on and how do we win? 196 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: Well? I agree with John. I think the culture war 197 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: is everything that used to mean ten or fifteen or 198 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: twenty years ago. That was code for abortion or religion, 199 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: but it's not anymore because the left has gained so 200 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: much ground that they are now infiltrating every aspect of 201 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: our lives. They want to ban gas stoves, Okay, that's 202 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: the culture war. It's them trying to engineer how you live. 203 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: They're wanting to chop off kids Genitalia so that these 204 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: weird munchaus and moms can get credit for having a 205 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: trans kid. They want to shove nonsensical, ahistorical, racist nonsense 206 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: under the guy of critical race theory down the throats 207 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: of our kids in school. They're taking over college curriculums 208 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: in colleges all over the country. They're wanting to change 209 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: the standards for hiring things like doctors and pilots, which 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: are two areas where you know, I want the best 211 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: person possible. I kind of don't care what they look 212 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: like or where they come from. I just want to 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: know that they're not going to slice me up and 214 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: kill me or fly into a mountain. All these issues 215 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: are the culture war. Whether you have the right to 216 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: defend yourself, whether you actually have the right to a 217 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: jury of your peers, the border, these are culture war issues, 218 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: and they are everything because if you don't have borders, 219 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: if you don't have laws, if you don't have the 220 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: ability to raise your family and your children and to 221 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: defend them in the best way you know possible, you 222 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: don't have a free country. And unfortunately, a lot of 223 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 2: people in the Republican Party just want to wind the 224 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: clock back twenty or thirty years and pretend that the 225 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: only thing we really disagree about is tax rates, Like 226 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: that's the debate they want to have is how many 227 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: tax credits should we have for corporations and should the 228 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: top marginal rate thirty five or thirty six, those days 229 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: are over. 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People call in to me constantly, 265 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: email me constantly, and they're saying, you know, they complain 266 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: about Lindsay Graham, they complain about Mitch McConnell, they complain 267 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: about the Rhinos. And then I see that, I go, okay, 268 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: well people are complaining about them, but these guys keep 269 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: getting elected all the time Lindsay Graham's on Fox News 270 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: every five minutes, Like, what do we do? How am 271 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: I supposed to explain to them that as long as 272 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: other Republicans keep voting this way, nothing changes. 273 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really unfortunate, especially with McConnell and Graham, who 274 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: I think of both outlived their usefulness at least in politics. 275 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: You know, it's discouraging to hear, but money and position matter, 276 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: and the machine matters. I think we learned that in 277 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty and I really hope we would have learned 278 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty two, that when you can control 279 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: the money and you control the machinery, especially in politics, 280 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: it's like ninety percent of the game. I mean, just 281 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: look what the left did with ballots. I don't think 282 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: the country was exactly clamoring for a status quo in 283 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. But you go in, you find the 284 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: right counties, you find the right swing districts, you throw 285 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: in enough money, you take over the right election offices, 286 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: and as long as you can flood it with ballots, 287 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: you're fine. So I actually think we're facing some fundamental 288 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: crises in government and politics, especially representative government. Right now. 289 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: It's bigger than just the Republican Party. But Republicans need 290 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: to understand you've got to stop electing these losers who 291 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: are content to seem to just open the border and then, 292 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe start a war they have no 293 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: plan to win or finish overseas like they're both doing 294 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. 295 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: What is it with Ukraine with some Republicans where I understand, 296 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: you know it right for the left Sean we expect 297 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: there to be the thing that they're all told, you know, 298 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: whether it's masking or trans eight year olds who need 299 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: hormones or whatever. Right, they go with what the herd, 300 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: the hive tells them to. And Ukraine has become one 301 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: of these things. Right, Ukraine's supposed to have a Ukraine 302 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: flag up and people couldn't probably still can't find Ukraine 303 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: on a map. Actually, all of a sudden, this is 304 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: the most important struggle in the history of America. And 305 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, why, But why do is the Republicans that 306 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: go along with this? I mean this sort of ties 307 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: into my previous question. Is it just because they want 308 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Is it a donor cash issue? Is it a they 309 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: think it's the nineteen eighties and we're just staring down 310 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the evil empire again, like, what is this all about? 311 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Oh? I think you nailed it. I think that's exactly 312 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: what it is. A theme I keep coming back to 313 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: is people in politics not knowing what time it is. 314 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty three, it's not nineteen eighty five. The 315 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: USSR is long gone, it was defeated, it fell under 316 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: its own weight. We have a very different regime in 317 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: Russia now. It might be similarly evil. I'm not going 318 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: to argue that Vladimir Putin is somehow a good guy 319 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: or that thinks they are awesome, But the Soviet Empire 320 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: is not the number one foe facing America right now. 321 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: It's China. And so it's odd to see so many 322 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: people who I once considered at least somewhat smart and 323 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: with it act is though it's still the mid eighties 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: and we're still fighting the Cold War. No, No, Russia 325 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: is a is a third rate ten pot oligarchy in 326 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: Central in Eastern Europe and in Central Asia. It's not 327 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: this big behemoths with a whole bunch of weapons just 328 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: waiting to nuke us at any moment. That's China. It's 329 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: not Russia that's coming in and infiltrating our universities. That's China. 330 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't Russia that let loose a virus that killed 331 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: millions of people and then covered it up and lied 332 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: about it. That was China. Okay, it's not Russia that's 333 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: coming in and buying off politicians. That's China. So like 334 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: our problem here is China. That is our number one 335 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: geopolitical foe. And the longer we busy ourselves with this 336 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: nonsense in Ukraine, meanwhile we're ignoring our own border. Somehow, 337 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: Ukraine's border is the thing we have to care about, 338 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: but caring about America's borders is racist. You know, our 339 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: own country is falling apart. Our military is led by 340 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: a bunch of woke buffoons in the kan which is 341 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: why Afghanistan was such a debacle. And yet we somehow 342 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: think that if we're going to put all our energy 343 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: and focus on Ukraine that we can take on China. 344 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: We couldn't even beat a bunch of seventh century goat 345 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: herders in Afghanistan. And it just boggles my mind how 346 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: anyone with a brain can look at the world as 347 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: it's constituted today and say, you know what, where we 348 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: really need to focus our energy and our treasure is Ukraine. 349 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: It's madness. 350 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: I want to get to the border in a second. First, though, 351 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: what do you think because I hear a lot of 352 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: people I was going to say, you know Tucker a 353 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: lot on his show, but you know, not hearing it 354 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: these days, which has pissed off a lot of people. 355 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: I know you were a regular on that show. I 356 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: used to do Tucker Show a lot. And we're all 357 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: sitting here like it is interesting that the most prominent 358 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: anti interventionist voice on the right when it comes to 359 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Ukraine has been sidelined, least for now. Put that aside 360 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: for a moment, but you know, I hear people saying, well, 361 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: I don't like what has gone on in Ukraine to 362 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: the degree that Biden and the corruption all that. Okay, 363 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: what is the what should the policy be? Though it 364 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: seems like everyone I shouldn't say everyone. Most people seem 365 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: to agree we don't put troops there, we don't fight 366 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: the Russians directly, But then all of a sudden it 367 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: turns into we're gonna do a whole lot of other 368 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: stuff that comes pretty damn close to fighting the Russians directly, 369 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: and I hope the Russians don't notice. What do you 370 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: think the policy? If you're going to have an America 371 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: first Ukraine policy, what does it look like. 372 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's an easy one. It's Europe needs 373 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: to clean up its own mess. You know, we have 374 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: been rolling in in fixing Europe's problems for about ninety 375 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: years now, and frankly, I'm kind of sick of it. 376 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: NATO anymore, although it was envisioned, is a way of 377 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: himming in the Soviet Union. NATO anymore is really just 378 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: an excuse to fleece the US, so a bunch of 379 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: socialist European nations don't have to pay for their own defense. 380 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: So to me, the solution is easy. Europe, it's your 381 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: own day on backyard, mix it yourself, poleash your own backyard, 382 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: polish your own continent, and leave us to deal with 383 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: the problems that we're facing here. And you know, you'll 384 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: hear a lot of people say, well, if we don't 385 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: confront Russia and Ukraine, then China will take Taiwan. I'll 386 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: tell you right now, the same lessons apply. Taiwan thinks 387 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: we're going to roll in there and ride to their rescue. 388 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: So what do Taiwan in Japan and South Korea do? 389 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: They just wait for US to clean up the mess 390 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: there and take care of it, because why get involved. 391 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: It's been your own money. If the US is just 392 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: going to come and throw in its weight behind it, 393 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: we were to leave them of their own duty and 394 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: obligation to take care of themselves by doing this nonsense 395 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: where we roll in and we clean up their message 396 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: for them. 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But right 432 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: now for the country, I do think that when you 433 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: look at policy and the areas where there's dispute over 434 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: where we should go and how we should go forward 435 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: as a country, there's not a lot that's looking good 436 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: at this moment in time. Right Economy is not looking good. 437 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: We got this war, new crime we're talking about, inflation 438 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: is high. Crime in cities is still way beyond what 439 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: it should be based on the numbers just a few 440 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: years ago. But the border may be the single biggest catastrophe. 441 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: By the numbers and by the reality one hundred thousand 442 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: plus people dying of fentyl overdoses. People forget Sean. There 443 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: was something I think in the early two thousands it 444 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: was like ten thousand people dying a year from all 445 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: opioid overdoses. Now it's over, and I know there's some 446 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: of it as other drugs, but the fentanyl is seventy 447 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: eighty percent and it's over one hundred thousand, So we've 448 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: seen an eight x increase in this plus the millions 449 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: of illegals coming in. I mean, Title forty two ends 450 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: this week. What happens now. 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: Well, we go from a border that might still theoretically 452 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 2: exist to having one that's been completely dissolved. And this 453 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: is being done intentionally. The Left has decided that borders 454 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: are racist, that America is an idea and an economic zone, 455 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: not an actual defined area with set rules of law, 456 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: and they've just set about dissolving the border, dissolving the 457 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: rule of law, and importing as many people as they 458 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: think will one day be part of their party as 459 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: they can. I mean, it's as simple as that. And 460 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: I get not wanting to be pessimistic, but I feel 461 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: like at this point in the American experiment, we kind 462 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: of have to look at the body politic like a 463 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: doctor would look at a patient who's sick. You need 464 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: your doctor to examine you, take your blood, looks at 465 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: your vitals, and tell you the truth about what you're facing, 466 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: whether it might be cancer or liver disease or heart 467 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: disease or something like that. And I feel like that's 468 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: where we are right now. We need to have a 469 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: very honest discussion in diagnosis of the body that is 470 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: America right now, because if we can't even agree on 471 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: what the problems are, we're never going to fix them, 472 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: and so we need to be really honest and very 473 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: frank about what's happening. We are being besieged by the left. 474 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: It's waging its own mouth style cultural revolution on every 475 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: single front. They control the big companies, they control big tech, 476 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: they control academia, they control the military, they control the 477 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: intel services, they control the government, they control Hollywood. Okay, 478 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: so it's not just the border. They are, it seems 479 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: implementing the program that the Soviets tried and failed to 480 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 2: do during the Cold War to subvert all of our 481 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: institutions against us. And the right needs to wake up 482 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: and understand you either have to take these institutions back 483 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: or you have to build up your own from scratch, 484 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: because the way they are now, they are going to 485 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: crush you. That's that's why cancel culture, why the obsession 486 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: with political correctness is so important, because the cultural power 487 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: the left has is the power to destroy you. 488 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: Right now, do you think that what Elon's doing over 489 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: at Twitter? People, Look, I've been among them. I felt 490 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: like at different times. Hold on a second. You know, 491 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: the shadow banning is still very much, whether it's the 492 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: algorithm or you know, there's some problem here with different accounts. 493 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I think your account has had problems. I don't. I 494 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: haven't seen your account. I mean, I follow you and 495 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: follow you for years. But do you think there's a 496 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: broader plan here to have a beachhead in the digital 497 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: tyranny that the left has been able to get away 498 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: with really here for years? I mean, how do you 499 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: see that again? I'm trying to find some trying to 500 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: find some positive moments here. I mean, could could Elon 501 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: turn Twitter into something that restores meaningful free speech online? 502 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 2: I think he could. I think he genuinely wants to. 503 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: What I have been told by people inside is that 504 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: the situation there, both staff wise and with the programming 505 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: and how the whole algorithm and services coded are so 506 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: much worse than we suspected. And the analogy that I've 507 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: been given is is you know, they're going to need 508 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: to rebuild that entire algorithm, but it's akin to remodeling 509 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: your entire house while you're hosting a big party. You 510 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: can't just start from scratch, build it from scratch and 511 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: be like today, it's all done. You have to do 512 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 2: it while still keeping it functioning. And people who I 513 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: know are on our side very much have said, it's 514 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: just a really difficult problem. He's committed to it, he's 515 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: just got to follow through it now. So, like you, 516 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: I've been a critic. You know, I was banned for 517 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: reporting on the Nashville shooting accurately. It took an act 518 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: of our favorable all er Arc over there to get 519 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: me unbanned. But you know, that's the situation we're in now. 520 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: We don't have free speech the likes of which you 521 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: and I grew up with. We have various oligarchs controlling 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: different entities, and right now we have one oligarch who 523 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: seems to be somewhat on our side. So it's not ideal. 524 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: I'll take it because it's better than having all of 525 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: them a rayed against us. 526 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: I didn't even know about this. You were kicked off 527 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: of Twitter for reporting on the Nashville shooting, right, Yeah. 528 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: I was banned for I want to say, the good 529 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: part of a week, for sharing a news story about 530 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: the trans Day of Vengeance that was planned just days 531 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: after went and decided to murder three nine year olds 532 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: and three Christian staff at the Covenant School. 533 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Why do you think they haven't released as we speak now? 534 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: At least it's been over a month. I think it's 535 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: gone on forty five days close to that. Haven't released 536 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: this manifesto, so. 537 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: We know exactly what I've been calling it, the Tranifesto, 538 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: because that's what it is. You have to understand that 539 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: the left feels like they have to control the narrative 540 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: at all costs. If they can control the narrative, they 541 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: can control results. And the narrative they want on shootings 542 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: is that guns are bad. Let's ban all the guns 543 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: because people we don't like are the ones who own 544 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: the guns. So you know that's generally what they fall 545 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: back on. But here you have a completely deranged, evil, 546 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: alleged transperson deliberately planning to go kill and target Christian 547 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: children because of their Christian faith. We know it's in 548 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: that manifesto, they know what's in it, and we know 549 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: exactly why they're not releasing it, and it just fascinates me. It's, 550 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: like you said, been forty five days since that came out, 551 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: but they somehow knew. Within an hour they found this 552 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: new Hispanic white supremacist who is posting on Russian language 553 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: forums talking about lives of TikTok and Tim Poole and boy, 554 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: you know. It just shows how militarized and radicalized these 555 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: right wingers are. They find all that crap in a 556 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: matter of hours, but they can't release this manifesto, which 557 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: we all know says what it says, which is that 558 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: this transgender ideology is being weaponized and targeted towards Christians 559 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: who have just had enough of this nonsensical ideology that 560 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: you can change your gender because you feel like you 561 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: were born in the wrong body. 562 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Are they finally losing you think the left on that 563 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: issue of transgenderism has the has the moment of pushback 564 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: actually come where they're no longer advancing and they're they're 565 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: in a meaningful retreat. 566 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: Oh. I think so. It's why you've seen so many 567 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: states pass these laws making it a crime to perform 568 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: these mutilations on children. I personally think they need to 569 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: ban them for everyone. You wouldn't allow elective amputations or 570 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: elective organ eviscerrations because it's just an awful, awful thing 571 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: to expect from a doctor in a healthcare system. There's 572 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: no reason we should be allowing it for genital stuff 573 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: minor or not. But I do think this is one 574 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: area where you know you can con people on little 575 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: things for a while, but once you start telling him 576 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: that this hideous fat man with a beard and a 577 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: gut is actually a really beautiful, stunning, brave woman. And actually, 578 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: you know, we should be able to tell your kid 579 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: to go chop their genitals off secretly at school without 580 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: you knowing. It appears that that was a bridge too 581 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: far for the Left. 582 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: If there's one issue, Sean, I was gonna say, what 583 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: makes you feel positive? You know what, Let's just skip that. 584 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Sean's a fighter, folks. Sean is feisty online, he is 585 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: he is a fighter in person, a pugilist. I think 586 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: we could say you're a pugilist in the ideological realm. 587 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: So give me this. Then, what's something that you think 588 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: people need to on our side focus more on and 589 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: fight harder on? Right now? 590 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: I think the best thing our side needs to do 591 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: is just say things that are true. There is the 592 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: Great Souls in It's an essay Living not by Lies 593 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: that Rod Dryer popularized popularized in his book In It 594 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: Souls Nitch and says, the lie has to attach itself 595 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: to someone to propagate. It's a parasite. It can't live 596 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: on its own. And you would be shocked how subversive, 597 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 2: how powerful it is for people to just stand up 598 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: and say I'm not going to be a party to this. 599 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 2: Conservatives and Republicans tend to be generally quiet people who 600 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: mind their own business. They just want to be left alone. 601 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: They're not the ones going and protesting and having these 602 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: idiotic riots taking time off from work to go piket something. 603 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: But they do need to start realizing you might not 604 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: care about the culture war, but the culture war cares 605 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: about conquering you, and you have to stand up. Whether 606 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: it's at your church, a school board meeting, at a 607 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: store advertising nonsense, whether it's on the internet, whether it's 608 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: at a baseball game. People need to stop tolerating lies. 609 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: The best thing they can do for our country right 610 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: now is to stop tolerating lies, because lies cannot exist 611 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: without people allowing them to Sean Davis. 612 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Everybody follow him on Twitter at Sean Davis, and also 613 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: go to the Federalist dot com anything else. Sean anything 614 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: else is going to tell people who go check out 615 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: for what you're doing, well. 616 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: Definitely check out the Federalist. This afternoon, we've got a 617 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: big breaking story about the Hunter Biden laptop letter. Coming 618 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: out in about fifteen to twenty minutes. 619 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: Here there we go, all right, Sean Davis, everybody, Sean, 620 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: thanks so much man, great to talk to you. 621 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir,