1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, lucking load. So Michael 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Arry Show is on the air. It's Charlie from BlackBerry Smoking. 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: I can feel a good one coming on. 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: It's the Michael Berry Show. 5 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: Two six packs Shiner, ninety nine cent Putaine ladder, look 6 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: as track cent a fifth of Patrol. I down atty 7 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: blue cooler. Take a guess at all the door. I 8 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: can feel a good one coming on. Throw in a 9 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: real wine in Hubbard, sing around red Nack mother. Any 10 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: blues I had before or go another working week is over, 11 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: no chance staying sober. 12 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: I can feel a good woman coming on. Man, we're 13 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: gonna get to feel in a ride. We're gonna keep 14 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: this pider. 15 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: I can feel the break of don. 16 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: You. 17 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: I can feel a good woman coming doll. 18 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Reblongs in a wreck toop Mustang followed us down to 19 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: the lake and didn't have to think about. 20 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 5: That too long. 21 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is as good a time as any 22 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: any bring this up situation goodness. 23 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 6: We're not going to have the same president and cabinet forever. 24 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 6: And what this nation needs is a movement, not a messiah. 25 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 6: And so a lot of people think, well, if I 26 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 6: just worship Trump then and I worship him harder than 27 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 6: everyone else, and I defend him and I support him, 28 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 6: and I wear shirts with his name on it and 29 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 6: capsure his name on it. Then that's gonna save the country. 30 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 6: Trump's not going to be here forever. Okay, none of 31 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 6: us are. In order for this movement to be a 32 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 6: real movement and to take back this country, not just 33 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 6: score a few wins, We're gonna have to have more 34 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 6: good people step up and don't look around, you're it. 35 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 6: This is Isaiah in the Bible where he has the 36 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 6: vision of God, and God in his vision is walking 37 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 6: around and saying, who shall I send? 38 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Who can for us? Who can spread the gospel? Who 39 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: can do it? 40 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 6: And Isaiah, in his dream, and he wakes to do this, 41 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 6: raises his hand to God and says, here, am I 42 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 6: send me? That verse has always meant a lot to me, 43 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 6: because there are there are things that have to be done. 44 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 6: Somebody's got to go confront the bully. Somebody's got to 45 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 6: go tell the now widow who doesn't know she's a 46 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 6: widow that her husband has died. Somebody has got to 47 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 6: go fight to fight, somebody's got to go witness. Somebody's 48 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: got to go arrest the bad guy, and somebody's got 49 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 6: to run for office. 50 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: And man, that's you. Yeah, you, that's me talking to you. 51 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: You can hear me, right? Why not you? Oh, I 52 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: could never do that. If your answer is oh, I 53 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: could never do that, you are the perfect candidate. What 54 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: we need is fewer student body presidents. I was one. 55 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: What we need is fewer. 56 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 6: People who dreamed of being president since they were a kid, 57 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 6: Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, and more people who passionately love 58 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 6: this country and could never imagine themselves in politics. 59 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: You're the perfect person. You're authentic, you're real, you're sincere, 60 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: You're good, You're wholesome. 61 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 6: You didn't want to be in politics. You just want 62 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 6: to be a mommy. You just want to be a 63 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 6: small business owner. You just want to be a farmer. 64 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 6: You're who we need. So before the elections begin, before 65 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 6: any of the other stuff, Well, Michael, how do I 66 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 6: get started? If you can't figure out how to get started, 67 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 6: then you can't fix the government. And I don't mean 68 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 6: running for president or even Congress. I'm talking about your 69 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 6: local city council. I'm talking about your church governance board, 70 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 6: I'm talking about your pta, your Neighborhood Association. We need 71 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 6: good people to stand up and serve in order for 72 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 6: our organizations to operate fairly, efficiently, effectively, properly. You can't 73 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 6: complain if you're not willing to serve. You can't complain 74 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 6: that the people who do serve. 75 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Aren't doing a good job if you're not willing to 76 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: do it better. Unfortunately, the wrong people are attracted to 77 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: public service for all the wrong reasons, to self indulge, 78 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: to self deal, to steal money, to exert power over 79 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: other people, to impose their bad ideas on other people. 80 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 6: We need more of you and fewer of them. Yeah, 81 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 6: I'm looking at you, you right there. Yes, Yes, that's you. 82 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 6: I'm looking at you. You find a place to serve 83 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 6: and start serving now, Ramon, you got a little fired 84 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: up there, Okay, I guess that's Ramon's way of saying 85 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 6: that it's time courtousy of the greatest executive producer in 86 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 6: all the land, chatted Cooney Nakanishi. 87 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Here, we can review get a little hair trigger there. 88 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: If she can darn or knit or stitch marry that one, 89 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: if she's in college or post college, if. 90 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 6: She quilts, lock her down right now, don't let that 91 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 6: one get don't let her out of your sight. 92 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 7: That is the one you want. 93 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: You've got gay. 94 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: David tell us the gayest song throw it off. 95 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 8: Number four is Dancing cleared by Abba. 96 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty gay. 97 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 6: Number three I don't feel like dancing if that's lesbian. 98 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: We're not mixing. The number two hymta by the Village People, 99 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: All right, go ahead? 100 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 9: Number one by the weather Girl. 101 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 6: Genie writes, idiots upline put greese and butt wipes down 102 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 6: in the train. 103 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Please tell people don't do this. 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 6: I'm always amused how many people want to do a 105 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 6: public service announcement out of what happens to now. 106 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to see that and go, hey, guys, hey, 107 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some stuff. 108 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 6: But I want to remind y'all please do not put 109 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: grease down your toilets. Guys, tzar burned my mouth this 110 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 6: morning getting my regular offeet at McDonald's. Please remind people, 111 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 6: don't put the coffee to your mouth until you've tested 112 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: it to make sure it's not too hot. 113 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: It's not a PSA needed a for everything, and knowing 114 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: is half to bout Gee Joe. 115 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 7: You know who've got a surprisingly good cover of this 116 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 7: boy Orbison. 117 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 9: I mean really really good, interesting voice, multi octave boys, 118 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 9: grow Bag Look is going to cover Love Hurts, Loves Comes. 119 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: They remain scared to death of you, and they remain 120 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: scared to death of Trump. To Michael Berry Show, You're 121 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: not going anywhere even if Trump does, You're not. 122 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: It's Friday Union, six o'clock. You all my friends were 123 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: twisting off. I'm at the house, just turning on the TV. 124 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 5: They all on New Wives Changed how many times let 125 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: stack explain it's basic hogky token and me the drink 126 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 5: getting all connected to the body, bone, connected to the 127 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 5: stand out to see. 128 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: You won't think it's funny and I'll wind up balling home. 129 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,479 Speaker 1: Man inmols connected to the drinking. 130 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: Home hate us too is always pouring down south his 131 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: north thirty two degrees. 132 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: It's freeze and you go. 133 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 6: Earlier in the week, we uh I asked the question 134 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 6: about people who do interesting, odd and interesting things for 135 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 6: a living, things that you know would be fun in 136 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 6: second grade if somebody's dad came in that you know, 137 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 6: bring your dad to work day. Because we got the 138 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 6: fireman and the police officer and the lawyer and the 139 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 6: judge and you know, interesting, odd, quirky things that you 140 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 6: wouldn't even think of. 141 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: As as a judge. 142 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 6: And I have gotten more fun emails and we ever 143 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 6: received more phone calls all hours of day. And by 144 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 6: the way, if you ever want to share something with 145 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 6: our show, put our number in your phone. You can 146 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 6: put it down as my name so you'll remember it's 147 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 6: me seven thousand. In any hour of the day or night. 148 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 6: You can leave us a message. Please start your message 149 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 6: with this is you know Bob from Baltimore, uh, and 150 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 6: then go into it and we will share some of 151 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 6: those on the air. But we have heard from more 152 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 6: interesting people. And I asked this fellow to call back 153 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 6: because he said he was a medical a forensic death investigator, 154 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 6: and I thought that was just fascinating. So Roy, you're 155 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 6: on the Michael Berry Show. 156 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: Thank you. I was a forensic death investigator for the 157 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: Harris County Medical Examiner's Office there in Houston, did that 158 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: for six years. You know, I had graduated from Houston, 159 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: went a criminal justice degree, and you know, back then, 160 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: you know, this was ninety seven, ninety eight, you know, 161 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: the forensic boom really hadn't hit yet, you know, CSI 162 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: wasn't a thing yet, so there wasn't really a whole 163 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: lot people knew about it. And I was working at 164 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: the Sheriff's apartment in Washington County and I was thumbing 165 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: through the want ads in the chronicle and I saw 166 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: that they had an investigator position open. You know, I 167 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: was like, okay, medical examiner. You know, I wasn't really 168 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: sure what they did, even though you know, I had 169 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: a criminal justice degree and so soil. That application went 170 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: down to Prairie Lee Street. Never heard anything back. So 171 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: I finally called, uh, the the office and I said, hey, 172 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: you know I fell on application. Did you know, did 173 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: y'all lose it or whatever? And she said, well, you 174 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: don't have any experience. And I was like, well, you know, 175 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 4: it's kind of such a unique field. You know, how 176 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: do you get experience? And she said most of their 177 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 4: investigators were former law enforcement, you know, HPD detectives or whatever. 178 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 4: And so I said, well, you know, if you'll ever 179 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: done an internship because I just recently graduated, and she said, no, 180 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: they'll talk to doctor Carter about it. Joy Carter was 181 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: the medical examiner at the time. And you know, I 182 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: didn't hit anything back I kept checking back, you know, 183 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: every couple of weeks. So anyway, six months went on 184 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: and finally they decided to meet with me. And I 185 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: went up there and met with the chief investigator at 186 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: the time, and we kind of hit it off. And 187 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: so she finally went and asked doctor Carter about doing 188 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: an internship. And so basically my I was working nights 189 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: at the Sheriff's department and so whenever I got off 190 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: and during the day, I drove up to Houston just 191 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: did whatever they asked me to do, answered phones, you know, uh, 192 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: just kind of do whatever. And you know, next thing 193 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: I knew, they fired one of the investigators and hired me. 194 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: And you know, that's that's how I became, uh an 195 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: investigator with them. 196 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 6: So when you first walk in to do an investigation, 197 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 6: what are you thinking to yourself? 198 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 7: Uh? 199 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: What what? 200 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 6: What are you first looking at? I mean, I guess 201 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 6: you're looking for foul You're looking for method of death, uh, 202 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 6: a reason for the death and foul play. Right, walk 203 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 6: me through your checklist on that. 204 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: Sure, Like, well, you know, Article forty nine point twenty 205 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: five of the Texas Penal Code requires a medical examiner 206 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: for any you know, city, A million population or more. 207 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: Uh So basically it's a it's its own separate entity. 208 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 209 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: They're in charge of determining cause and manner of death 210 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: and identifying you know, the body. You know. Basically anything 211 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: natural death is obviously a medical examiner's case. But also 212 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: if anybody is admitted to a hospital in less than 213 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: twenty four hours, that case also has to be called in. 214 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: So basically my job at the scene. Uh, you know, 215 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: once there's a body, basically, if somebody's dead, it becomes 216 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: property as a medical examiner. Nobody is by law able 217 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: to disturb it or touch it until the medical examiner arrives. 218 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: So my my basically main role is to ensure that 219 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: there's no tampered with evidence on the body, you know, 220 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: document obviously you know what we know at the time 221 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: would happened. Uh in the event that it's a uh, 222 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: you know, homicide or something like that, you know, my 223 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: job would be to give uh you know, uh, you 224 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: know evidence or real time information to the actives about 225 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: you know, maybe what type of weapon it was, you know, 226 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: just a contact wound, you know, stab wound, you know, 227 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: just kind of give them information on you know, maybe 228 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: the cause of death and basically document everything, take photographs. 229 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: You know, my job wasn't necessarily to do with the scene. 230 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: You know, that would be the local law enforcement or 231 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: whoever had jurisdiction on the scene. So my basically responsibility 232 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: is the body, anything that's on the body, touching the body, 233 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: or anything that would have to do with the uh 234 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: you know, cause and manner of death. Uh So document photographs, 235 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: generate a report because the pathologists, you know, they're not 236 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: always going out to the scene, you know, unless it's 237 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: some high profile case, but you know they're when they 238 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: get the body, you know, for the autopsy, they have 239 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: to review my report, review the photographs and everything, so 240 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: that can kind of filter in with the cause and 241 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: manner of death uh determination. And then you know, I 242 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: would also be in charge of identify properly identifying the 243 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: body and you know, making sure that it's transported correctly. 244 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: How long didn't they you know, testify it? 245 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: You're good? Sure sometimes you. 246 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: Know, you would have to testify in court, you know, 247 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: on any type of evidence. Sometimes maybe that you gathered 248 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: off the body, if you know, if they wanted to 249 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: have that entered, you know, you would have to test 250 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: us listen to. 251 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 8: The Michael Berry Show podcast and you'll be the smartest 252 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 8: guy in the room. Share with your friends and you'll 253 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 8: be the most popular too. 254 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 6: Roman de Roy, who was a forensic depth investigator. 255 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: With Harris County. 256 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 6: Harris County is the city, is the is the county that. 257 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: That city, city of Houston is in. 258 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 6: It's a big county and obviously you're going to see 259 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: a lot of violence. And we're talking about well being 260 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 6: a forensic death invesket or can you imagine imagine how 261 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 6: how I mean. 262 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: You wake up, you're eating. 263 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 6: Your cereal in the morning, knowing you're going to go 264 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 6: in and look at dead bodies, and you're just acting 265 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 6: like it's normal, you know. 266 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, how long did it. 267 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 6: Take you after you started doing this job to where 268 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: you could walk in and see a human being, the 269 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 6: body of a human being, the corpse of a human 270 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 6: being and not and not and just work as if 271 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 6: they're not there, I mean, walk me. 272 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: How do you process that? 273 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: Well, that's a funny thing is that you either can 274 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: do it or you can't. You know, you know, it's 275 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: one of those things that you really don't know how 276 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: you're going to react. 277 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: Until you see it. 278 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: You know, and it just you know, for whatever reason, 279 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: you know, I was able to do it. You know, 280 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: there were some people that you know, first day on 281 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: the job, you know, they would quit because you know, 282 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: you have to be able to process that in a 283 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 4: certain way. You know. Sometimes homicide detectives would come and 284 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: view the first autopsy and just pass smooth out, you know, 285 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 4: after seeing that. So you really don't know how you're 286 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: going to react until you see it. And for whatever reason, 287 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: you know, I was able to do it. I was 288 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 4: able to you know, process the the gore and the 289 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: you know, just the awful things that you see and 290 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: just realize that that was part of my job to 291 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: get justice, you know, for the victim, you know, my 292 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 4: my my job was the link in the chain that 293 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 4: would eventually you know, get to a conviction or you know, 294 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 4: get to you know, catch the person that did it, 295 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: you know, in homicide cases, but there were also you know, 296 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 4: accidental suicides. You know, like I said, you know, you 297 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 4: really don't know how you're going to act until you 298 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 4: see it, you know, I mean, we did we deal 299 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: with death every day, you know, and so it's it's 300 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: not one of the things that you go home to 301 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: your wife and be like, oh, I guess what happened today, 302 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: you know, because you know you have to be able 303 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: to to to see it and do it and then 304 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: just you know, really just leave it at work, you know. 305 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: But the hardest thing was, you know, dealing with the 306 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: family and the victims. You know, afterwards, you know you 307 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: had to be you had to be hard and empathetic 308 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: at the same time, because when you're dealing with you know, 309 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: the family members, you know, you're you're talking to them 310 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: and working with them at the worst possible time of 311 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: their life. You know, you're you're informing them and telling 312 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: them that their husband or daughter or you know, wife 313 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: just died. And so you really have to you know, 314 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: have a real sense of empathy, uh and then also 315 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: you know, be able to deal with it at the 316 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: same time. But you know, over the years that I 317 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: did it, you know, it really changed my life because 318 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 4: it really makes you be thankful for everything. You know, 319 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: any any day you get up and put two feet 320 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: on the ground, that's a good day, you know. And 321 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 4: it really taught me how to, you know, just be 322 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: thankful for the little things, you know, because we're not 323 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 4: always guaranteed tomorrow. 324 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: When you look. 325 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 6: At a dead body for a person, for us uninitiated, 326 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: when you look at a dead body from head to toe, 327 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 6: what are some things that are different? I mean, I 328 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 6: had a guy tell me the It was Jim Mutt, 329 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 6: our creative director. We were talking about myths, and there 330 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 6: is the myth that your nails grow after you die, 331 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 6: and he researched it and it turns out that no, 332 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 6: that's not true. The skin shrivels, giving the appearance that 333 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: the nail has grown, but it hasn't, just the skin 334 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 6: has withdrawn around it. What are some ways that the 335 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 6: body changes as part I'm not talking about decomposition. I'm 336 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 6: just talking about, you know, without the lifeblood in it. 337 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 6: What are some ways that we wouldn't expect the body changes? 338 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: Well, you know basically, you know, when everything stops working, 339 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: you know, gravity takes its toll, you know, So however 340 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: the body is laying, you know, that's basically the position 341 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: you know would be in, you know, like when rigamortis 342 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: sets in or lividity, you know, one of the ways 343 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: you know, to kind of determine what time you know 344 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 4: the death was. That was always you know, one of 345 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: the biggest questions. You know that we would try to 346 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: help to figure out. You know, so lividity basically all 347 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 4: the blood pools and wherever gravity takes it. And so 348 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: there would be you know, almost bruising or red dark 349 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: areas of the body where the blood would pool. And 350 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: so you know, depending on different factors environmental temperature and 351 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: you know, and whatnot. You know that has a certain 352 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: rate where lividity becomes fixed. Also the rigor mortis, you know, 353 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: the body's body stiffens, you know, during a particular time 354 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: after death. So you know the body would be stiff 355 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: in certain areas. But you know, basically it's just you know, 356 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: looking at those things. You know obviously the the skin 357 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: you know, and everything you know basically just shrivels and 358 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: you know withers, you know that kind of stuff. So 359 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 4: you know, just those type of uh changes you know, 360 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: on the body. 361 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: Does it does it change? 362 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: Do you feel like it changes how you interact with people? 363 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 6: Because people who've dealt with death, it seems to me 364 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 6: it does change you in in remarkable and basic ways 365 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 6: because you see the full life cycle. Do you feel 366 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 6: like that has a affected you and how you treat 367 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 6: other people or how you look at other people or 368 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 6: how you look at life. 369 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: For sure, it you know, like I said, I definitely 370 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 4: have a lot more empathy. But in other things, you know, 371 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 4: like I don't really see problems like most people do, 372 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 4: you know, because I'm just like, you know, that's not 373 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: a problem. You know, that's nothing. You know, I build 374 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: houses now, and so you know, people you know have 375 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: issues with things, you know, in their homes and whatever. 376 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: And it just makes me one, you know, have a 377 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: lot more patience for stuff like that. But then you know, 378 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: it just makes me realize that you know, this, this 379 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: ain't a problem. You know, we can get through this, 380 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 4: you know. So it really, uh just gives me a 381 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: way better outlook in life, I think, dealing with with 382 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: problems and everything because you know, I don't really see 383 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: it was this problem. 384 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: Very interesting, very interesting story. 385 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 6: Thank you for the call boy, Thank you. 386 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: What else do you want? 387 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 8: Mary? 388 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: What do you want? 389 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: David? 390 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: You are on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, 391 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: Hello Michael. 392 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 8: I met you, oh several years ago at Grand Ranch 393 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 8: sales office with Marcus or Trail. I'm a former Green Beret, uh, 394 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 8: and I brought a weapon up there. Do you recall? 395 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 8: I'm sorry I do not, but that's okay. I remember 396 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 8: that day. I remember Marcus joining me. I just I 397 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 8: don't don't recall this particular. 398 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: Interaction, but I do. 399 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 8: We make three thousand pounds of deer sausage and I 400 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 8: take and hand it out at Fort Benning, Georgia every 401 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 8: year for the last seven years, and when the unit deploys, 402 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 8: I go to a fish fry for them. I catch 403 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 8: all the fish, I clean all the fish, and I 404 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 8: go cook it off at Fort Benning, Georgia. And I'm 405 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 8: needing something from your listeners, and I want to make 406 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 8: sure it's okay before I say so. 407 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, well, first of all, hold on a minute. 408 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 6: You had me at sausage and then you went to 409 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: fish fries. Let me process. It's still a lot. This 410 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 6: is kind of a sugar shock for my you know, 411 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: my system is a whole lot. It's a whole lot 412 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 6: going on for me. All right, go ahead, Yes, you 413 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 6: may ask. 414 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 8: The unit's going to deploy and there's going to be 415 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty people soldiers there in their families. 416 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 8: I've got bouncy houses for the kids. I'm needing one 417 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 8: hundred and fifty door prices so I can make sure 418 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 8: that every family gets door price before they leave there. 419 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: And these and these are navy seal families. 420 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 8: Did you say these are army? They green rays? 421 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 6: You said that, I'm a good Yeah, okay. And what 422 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 6: would a door prize look like? I know you don't 423 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 6: want to limit it, but what kind of value would 424 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 6: a door price have? 425 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: The lower obviously being. 426 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 8: Well, uh, I've had like Academy gave a couple of 427 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 8: rotten reels. I've had artie coolers, getty coolers, something that 428 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 8: is not specific to an area where that soldier couldn't 429 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 8: use it, You know. 430 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: What I mean? Yeah? What would you say. 431 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 8: Is from all change from Cleveland, Ohio wouldn't do no 432 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 8: good in Columbus, Georgia. 433 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 6: I got you, Okay, I have your email address, and 434 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: if somebody can help us out, whether they can do 435 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 6: all one hundred and fifty of them or some number 436 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 6: of them, then I will forward those to you by 437 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 6: email and you will get them as and. 438 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: When they come in. All right, that's pretty cool, you know, Ramon. 439 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 6: My brother used to make his own deer sausage, okay, 440 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: And he and his wife Brenda would do that in 441 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 6: their kitchen. And I'm telling you my brother was so impressive. 442 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 6: If you walked in while they were doing that, it 443 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 6: would look like a bomb went off in the middle 444 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 6: of a crowd. It was the biggest mess in that house. 445 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 6: And then you came back that weekend and you would 446 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 6: have the most You could not believe it wasn't made 447 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 6: at La Boucherie my sponsor. 448 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: Or? 449 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 6: Can I say your sponsor's name? Are you sure you 450 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 6: don't mind if I say your sponsor's name? Well, but 451 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 6: people need to understand Labucherie is my sponsor. 452 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: That's my people. Your people are not Labucherie, but I 453 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: will say they're great people. 454 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 8: You know. 455 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 6: Ramona and I in some categories have a different show sponsor, 456 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 6: and Eddie was concerned when I first said, hey, there 457 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 6: are more people that want to partner with our show 458 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: than I have capacity for because I can only speak 459 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 6: for one company in a category. I want best in 460 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 6: class for my category, but there are other people who 461 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 6: are also good. 462 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that. 463 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 6: I don't believe that I have to that somebody should 464 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 6: listen to our show because the other shows aren't any good. 465 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: There are lots of good shows out there. 466 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 6: I mentored Jesse Kelly from being an RV salesman to 467 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 6: a nationally syndicated talk show host, and people think, people 468 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: in the industry think, oh, wow, you know Jesse k 469 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 6: I love Jesse Kelly. 470 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: He's one of my best friends. His success is my success. 471 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Every dollar he makes is a dollar I made. 472 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 6: Every award he wins his selling book, there is no 473 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 6: jealousy at all. 474 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I will tell you there is no jealousy. 475 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 6: There is nothing but mad respect and self centered, narcissistic 476 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 6: credit claiming for me because I feel like I had 477 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 6: a lot to do with that. 478 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: And when you have that approach to things. Now, there 479 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: are people in the industry I don't like. 480 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I'm jealous of them, but I wish 481 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: I'm ill because I think they're bad people. But no, 482 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 6: that's a good thing. That being said. That being said, 483 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 6: Ramon has sponsors in some categories that are different than mine, 484 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 6: and if you don't use mine, I hope you use his. 485 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 6: That's how I wanted to work. There can be two 486 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 6: good meat markets in town, just as simple as that. 487 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 6: Midway actually came to me and said, hey, we want you. 488 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: To speak for us. I said, I can't speak for you, 489 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: but I can do you one better. 490 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: The guy who's probably more respected in terms of processing meat. 491 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Laboucherie's great, they do great with me. 492 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 6: But the guy who processes his own meat and those 493 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 6: meats is Ramone, and I think he's all. 494 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 10: You ever had an argument with your spouse and he 495 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 10: solved it with sausage? It works really, one trip to 496 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 10: mid meat market you can come home with a peace offering, 497 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 10: a fresh cut steaks, homemade jersey. This is why, maybe 498 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 10: even a bottle of wine to smooth things over. Suddenly 499 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 10: you're not a forgetful husband, You're a meat bearing heroes. 500 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 10: Midway has been saving relationships and grilling reputations since nineteen 501 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 10: sixty seven. 502 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Inch take so skip the. 503 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 10: Flowers, bring brisket, Go see Herman and the Meyer family. 504 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 10: A Midway meat market off its and open eight to 505 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 10: seven daily Midway meat Market dot com. 506 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 6: And see why that See this is why I don't 507 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 6: I don't ever open. That's the proverbial animal knows under 508 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 6: the tent. Right, there's go back to my point. Chris's 509 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 6: sausage was as good as anything I've ever got at 510 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 6: any meat market. You know, we don't talk enough about sausage, 511 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna do a name drop but it's not 512 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 6: actually a name drop. It's part of the story, so 513 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 6: I'm not it's not intended to go, oh, Michael's hanging 514 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 6: out with famous people. That is not the intention. I 515 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 6: have to give this detail because it's part of the 516 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 6: story and it's relevant to the story. So I don't 517 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 6: want a ding. I just want it to be natural. 518 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: It's not like I'm not trying to, oh, you know, 519 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 6: brag on myself. Okay, So opening day, I got invited 520 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 6: to Jim Crane's suite, so I just said, don't do that. 521 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 6: So I got invited Jim Crane Sweet, one of the astros. 522 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: I just said, don't do that. And so there I 523 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: am in Jim Crane Sweet, such an idiot. 524 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 7: You knew. 525 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. I was trying to listen. Have 526 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: you ever been for a hearing test? That's what you do, 527 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: and what happens is it gets in your head literally, 528 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: So they started like ding, yep, I got that. You 529 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: raise your hand. 530 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 6: I got that one, and then Dan and then after 531 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 6: a while you're sitting there and you know, we've all 532 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 6: got some level of. 533 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: Tonight's it's a little old lady right now. She's a 534 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: former English teacher in the library. It's tenantist, Michael, It's tenna. 535 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: That's what's what I call it. 536 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 6: I call it tonight as you call it tenadas, you 537 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 6: call it whatever you want, call it tonightus. 538 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Somebody had decided how it was. I was said, you're 539 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: just repeating what they said. Anyway. 540 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 6: You're sitting there in your ears are kind of ringing, 541 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 6: and as at some point you just randomly raise your hand. 542 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 6: I would love to be on the other side and 543 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 6: just sit there for five minutes with it never doing 544 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 6: and watch them. Ever saw them kind of half raised there. 545 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 6: I think now, because you figure at some point they're 546 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 6: dinging it right. I want to get it right. 547 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: Anyway. 548 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: So we're in Jim crane suite and Jim said, hey, 549 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 6: have you eaten? He didn't say have you eat? Well, 550 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 6: my grandmother did, but it would been good if he did. 551 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 6: And he said, uh, I tried out. I'm curious. You know, 552 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 6: got some new stuff on them on the men. You 553 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 6: don't want to see what you think, so I don't 554 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 6: don't twist my arm. It was a three o'clock game, 555 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 6: and so I go walking You're sitting down to watch, 556 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 6: and then you walk back a couple of steps, and 557 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 6: there's a nice. 558 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Lady naming Bobby. I think her name was Bobby or Barbie. 559 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 6: And so they had regular hot dog, the regular little 560 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 6: skinny weenie, which but they had brocks. And I like 561 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 6: a hot dog that's that's a thicker and got that's 562 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 6: more of a sausage, right, got more flavor and all 563 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 6: that not just lips and booty holes. And man was 564 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 6: so big that I had told you the story. I 565 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 6: had the bun. Because I didn't tear the bun fully apart, 566 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 6: I just laid it on top of the bun. 567 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: It wouldn't go down in there. So my second one 568 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: I had to have later. 569 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 6: I had to take the bun, tear it apart into 570 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 6: two halves, put it. 571 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: Back together to make like a sandwich. 572 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 6: And on the sides, I had to mash the bun 573 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 6: down to where it basically created a pig and a 574 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 6: blanket