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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. It

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Speaker 2: is Debate Day in Milwaukee. I am here in Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: with all of you. Simultaneously, Donald Trump is doing an

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Speaker 2: interview with Tucker Carlson which will appear at the same time.

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Speaker 2: It is going to be a wild day. Indeed, right

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Speaker 2: off the top, thank you to everybody who came out

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Speaker 2: everybody who has come out. Thanks for making American Playbook

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Speaker 2: thank you enough. But my goodness, we have got a

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Speaker 2: show for you as we get ready for the debate tonight.

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Speaker 2: I already went over to the location in Milwaukee. Fox

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Speaker 2: News is set up there. I did the show Fox

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Speaker 2: and Friends with Brian Kilmead this morning, Martha McCollum, Brett Bahar. Ready,

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Speaker 2: there are eight Republican candidates going to be on the stage,

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Speaker 2: but the shadow of Donald Trump looms large. Trump is

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Speaker 2: going to turn himself in in Atlanta tomorrow, and I

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Speaker 2: would submit that that means there is a relatively small

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Speaker 2: window where people are going to be reacting to what

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Speaker 2: happens on the debate stage. And also we'll see what

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Speaker 2: happens between Trump and Tucker and how that impacts the

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Speaker 2: viewership for this debate. A couple of little details that

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Speaker 2: are out there. Doug Berghum, the governor of North Dakota,

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Speaker 2: went to the er after being injured playing pickup basketball

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Speaker 2: and said he's been to the er several times before.

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Speaker 2: I think, for I'm playing pickup basketball. I don't know

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Speaker 2: about you. I've played pickup basketball my whole life. I've

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Speaker 2: never had to go to the er. I felt like

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Speaker 2: I should knock on wood because I'll probably tear the

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Speaker 2: they're uncertain if he is going to be able to

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Speaker 2: stand on the stage. And if you wanted to know

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Speaker 2: what is the worst possible scenario you could find yourself,

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Speaker 2: it's to spend tens of millions of dollars to qualify

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Speaker 2: to get on the stage in Milwaukee when a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't know you, and then you get injured

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Speaker 2: in a pickup basketball game the night before and you

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Speaker 2: may not be able to actually stand on the stage.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what ends up happening there. But I

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Speaker 2: think the big picture story here is can anyone truly

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Speaker 2: make themselves a legitimate alternative to Donald Trump? It was

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Speaker 2: interesting last night we were talking to Milwaukee audience. I

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Speaker 2: sixty percent of the audience last night in Milwaukee was

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Speaker 2: going to be supporting someone other than Donald Trump forty

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Speaker 2: percent for Trump, which is a big number. Sixty percent

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Speaker 2: for someone other than Trump. Now that's one small audience.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a pretty decent sized audience. Several hundred of you,

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Speaker 2: all directions. The vike Ramaswami, however, is moving up the

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Speaker 2: it would actually be Chris Christie because he's doing quite

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Speaker 2: well known in the Northeastern Republican circuit. So what needs

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Speaker 2: Or is this merely the undercard and Trump is basically

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Speaker 2: would submit to you that DeSantis will not be on

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Speaker 2: I would submit to you that Chris Christy has zero

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Speaker 2: Now I am flying to New York City this afternoon

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Speaker 2: where the Milwaukee Bucks play in Milwaukee. That means in

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Speaker 2: terms of what it will feel like for television viewers,

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Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis with everything they've got because I think everybody,

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Speaker 2: And we've had Ron DeSantis on this show quite a lot.

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Speaker 2: How normal is he going to sing? You win oftentimes

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Speaker 2: that's why I think Vivey Garamaswami's perspective is interesting. You

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Speaker 2: we don't have another debate until late September. This is

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Speaker 2: This is an opportunity for all of these Republican candidates

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Speaker 2: Simultaneously as they are attempting to grab attention, think about

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Speaker 2: be doing an interview with Tucker Carlson. Remember Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 2: We want to give you guys opportunities to react. We've

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Speaker 2: got a lot to discuss. Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: And hey, I would just put this out there. There's

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Speaker 2: by twenty six thousand votes. I don't think you can

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Speaker 2: well be a vice presidential candidate. In fact, if I

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, He's Clay Travis. Together they're breathing sanity

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Speaker 1: into an insane world.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number two, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, welcome to wiscons Thank you. I

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Speaker 4: But and appreciate the congratulations here. It was it was

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Speaker 4: a tough phrase. Wisconsin's not easy. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: So you won, I believe, by twenty six thousand votes,

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Speaker 4: It's really that simple. The Democrats have a very easy

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Speaker 3: We have to do it. We've got to get in.

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Speaker 2: Eight candidates tonight are going to be on the stage

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Speaker 2: And I've said this on the radio show before. You

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 4: It's what I could do to influence Wisconsin's what I

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Speaker 3: Now, tell me about I want.

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Speaker 2: You know, every single hotel in Milwaukee right now is

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Speaker 4: Well, you ignore the consultants at your own peril because

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Speaker 3: They don't make money.

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Speaker 4: Hiring the paid field staff so that you can get

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Speaker 2: Midwest is going to decide this election. I feel confident.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think enough with Republicans or

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Speaker 3: All the difference. So I'll give you the numbers.

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Speaker 4: I used to be the record vote getter as Republican Canada.

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Speaker 4: Here Obama is the record holder with a million, sixt

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Speaker 3: Two one thousand vote difference. Right.

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Speaker 4: Having a fuller slate of a Republican Assembly candidates collectively

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Speaker 4: I always say bring out your second, fifth, and fifteenth cousin, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They're trying to bring back masks.

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Speaker 3: No, it's just awful. It's awful what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: You were right on everything COVID, and I give you

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Speaker 2: When you see college kids being mandated to wear masks

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Speaker 2: on the University of Wisconsin campus in Madison, all over

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Speaker 2: these places. Kids are still wearing masks. When you see

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Speaker 2: that happen, What do you.

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Speaker 4: Think, Well, remember the massive stroke of the left was

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Speaker 4: taking over our university systems in the sixties.

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Speaker 3: By the radical left.

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Speaker 4: So they controlled all colleges, but in particular colleges of

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Speaker 4: education and of journalism. So we're not graduating teachers anymore.

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Speaker 4: We're graduating people that indoctrinate our children for you know,

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Speaker 4: twelve years and then they come into college, which is

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Speaker 4: the main indoctrination site. We're not graduating journalists anymore. We're

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Speaker 4: graduating advocates for the left. So that gives the left

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Speaker 4: all their power. That's why they've been able to infiltrate

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Speaker 4: every institution of this country, and now it's showing so

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Speaker 4: on college campuses in particular. What a great way to

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Speaker 4: educate your our young people to obey, you know, scare

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Speaker 4: that you.

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Speaker 3: Know what odd of them. I mean, here's a virus.

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Speaker 3: It's going to kill you. No, if you're young and healthy,

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Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 4: But they've put the fear of the Lord in them,

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Speaker 4: whether it's on climate change, the world's going to end,

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Speaker 4: the I guess climate change didn't give them enough control,

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Speaker 4: so the pandemic they seize that and they're just not

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Speaker 4: letting go, even though you know, young people didn't die

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Speaker 4: unless you've got mayochritas from the vaccine.

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Speaker 4: I saw a recent poll about a third of Americans

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Speaker 4: agree the fact that vaccines killed people, but the other

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Speaker 4: two thirds are either unsure or absolutely think that's false.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we're not necessarily winning that argument. We're

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Speaker 4: winning over some of the population, but the majority of

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Speaker 4: the population continues to listen to the COVID cartel. You know,

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Speaker 4: the administration of the federal health agencies, big farm who's

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Speaker 4: captured the agencies, as well as the media and big

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Speaker 4: tech social media giants. I mean, we're we're fighting powerful

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Speaker 4: forces here, Clay. Can you come back spend one more

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Speaker 4: segment with us. Absolutely, we're talking to Senator Ron Johnson

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Speaker 4: of Wisconsin. You can reach out ask some questions. I

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Speaker 4: want to ask you about a couple of things when

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Speaker 4: we come back. For sure, I want to ask you

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Speaker 4: ask you whether you think, based on your experience, Joe

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Speaker 4: conversations inside of the Senate about Biden's abilities actually sound like.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that with Senator Ron Johnson. We're live

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Speaker 4: in Milwaukee as the Republican debate in just closer and closer,

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Speaker 1: Don't miss the day of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Live in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: As the Republican debate inches closer and closer with Senator

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Speaker 2: Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, a quote that you gave to

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Speaker 2: The New York Times which was not fully revealed. I

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Speaker 2: loved it. I retweeted it. Joe Biden went after you

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Speaker 2: on a recent trip to Wisconsin. You were asked for

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Speaker 2: comment by the New York Times. And I'm paraphrasing here,

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Speaker 2: but it's a pretty succinct quote. He is senile and

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Speaker 2: he is lying that was you on Joe Biden, which

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Speaker 2: is fabulously I think well said.

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Speaker 3: Is Joe Biden going to be the nominee?

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Speaker 2: And what in Capitol Hill circles as Senators sit around

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Speaker 2: and talk is said about Joe Biden, because I know

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Speaker 2: many of them in the Senate would know him from

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Speaker 2: his time in the Senate.

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Speaker 4: Still, I honestly would be surprised if he were the nominee.

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Speaker 4: And my guess they'll you know, drag him along and

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Speaker 4: tell convention and then there'll be obviously you can't be

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Speaker 4: and they'll name somebody, and America won't have time to

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Speaker 4: really vet that person. The media will praise this person

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Speaker 4: as you know, the savior of the country and the

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Speaker 4: Democrat Party, and you know that's what they'll try and

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Speaker 4: do to get to Democrat elected. But I just have

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Speaker 4: a hard time. I mean, he's he's he's obviously unfit

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Speaker 4: for the job. He's he's corrupt, He lies, and he's declining.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. And I don't say that

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Speaker 4: with any joy. I mean, it's sad to see that

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Speaker 4: happen with people with age, but that's what's happened to

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Speaker 4: the president.

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Speaker 2: We're slowly finally getting the truth about the cover up

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Speaker 2: and the rig job surrounding the Biden crime family. You

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Speaker 2: have found yourself centrally located here. I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: about this a little bit later on the show. I

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Speaker 2: read an editorial yesterday in the Washington Post where they said, oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Joe Biden may have actually been involved

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Speaker 2: with Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 3: I said, oh, my goodness, really, I'm shocked.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think ends up happening with the

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Speaker 2: investigations into Hunter Biden and his relationship with Joe Biden?

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Speaker 3: And where do you see that going?

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Speaker 4: Listen, it has been so obvious for so long that

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Speaker 4: he's a liar, that he has corrupt, that it's the

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Speaker 4: Biden crime family. I don't think we'll ever have enough

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Speaker 4: evidence for the media to really report on this. Honestly.

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Speaker 4: They may do their modified limited hangout, you know, just

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Speaker 4: you know, they're starting to do that right now, but

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Speaker 4: they'll never give the American public the full truth here.

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Speaker 4: So my guess is we'll continue to find peace. The

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Speaker 4: puzzle will kind of fill it in until it's so

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Speaker 4: glaringly obvious that maybe the mainstream media will have start

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Speaker 4: covering this, stop ignoring it and covering it. Honestly, but

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Speaker 4: I'm not holding my breath.

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Speaker 2: You actually were directly involved in this, and you've talked

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Speaker 2: about it on this program in many other places. The

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Speaker 2: FBI tried to tell you that you were being used

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Speaker 2: basically by Russian disinformation agent, and then they leaked that

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Speaker 2: they gave you that briefing. I think this is an

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Speaker 2: integral part of the whole story.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I think the FBI was trying to pre sabotage the

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Speaker 4: disclosure of the Hunter by Laptop ever since they picked

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Speaker 4: it up. Ye, they warned Macguyas that you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: our experiences people and talk about these things. Don't get hurt.

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Speaker 4: We were accused by our Democrat ranking members of soliciting

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Speaker 4: and dissemining Russian disinformation all of twenty twenty. During our investigation.

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Speaker 4: In August of twenty twenty, both Center Grass and I

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Speaker 4: get separate unsolicited briefings from the FBI. Will they tell

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Speaker 4: us that I just rolled my eyes. Now you're telling

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Speaker 4: us we're targets for Russian disinformation?

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Speaker 3: Huh? Do you have more information? They had nothing.

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Speaker 4: I said, Okay, who told you to brief us? Three

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Speaker 4: years later, Clay, they will not tell us who directed

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Speaker 4: that briefing. Of course, then they eleaked that briefing in

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Speaker 4: May of twenty twenty one, basically calling me a Russian stooge.

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Speaker 4: This guy was warned. Of course, none of our information

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Speaker 4: was Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 3: It was all true.

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Speaker 4: It came from you, Treasury records, from interviews with US persons,

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Speaker 4: but we only had piece of the puzzle. And of

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Speaker 4: course the media, because they bought what the Democrats were

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Speaker 4: saying is Russia disinformation, completely ignored our report as they

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Speaker 4: ignored the hunter Byen laptop.

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Speaker 3: So all this was known.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've known for a long time that Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden never should have been elected president, but the majority

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Speaker 4: of Americans didn't realize it.

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Speaker 2: Biggest question, most important question, probably the most controversial debate

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Speaker 2: topic going on all over the state of Wisconsin right now.

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Speaker 2: How is Jordan Love going to do taking over for

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Got to hope he does well.

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Speaker 4: I really do, Bret Phire, Aaron Rodgers, can you have

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Speaker 4: three in a row?

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Speaker 3: You got your.

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Speaker 2: Packer, fans are spoiled. You don't know how tough it

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Speaker 2: is for the rest of us in the NFL. Senator

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Speaker 2: Ron Johnson, keep up the good work. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Have fun tonight, and thank you for being with us here.

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Speaker 2: Travis buck Sexton Show Getting Ready for what I think

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Speaker 2: it's fair to call a big game, the Republican Debate

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Speaker 2: tonight in Milwaukee. We are in Milwaukee, broadcasting from our

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Speaker 2: affiliate WISN. We had an amazing time last night at

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Speaker 2: the Pats Theater. Dan O'Donnell, who many of you listened

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Speaker 2: to in Milwaukee and I had a conversation in front

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Speaker 2: of hundreds of you among the crowd.

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Speaker 3: Alexi lallis, what did you think of the event?

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Speaker 5: It was great, Thank you for having me. It was

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Speaker 5: a beautiful venue, by the way, gorgeous, gorgeous, and you

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Speaker 5: did a wonderful job. I mean, obviously people hear you

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Speaker 5: each and every day, but you got to go into depth,

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Speaker 5: into depth, read some of the book and graduate. Congratulations

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Speaker 5: on the success of the book.

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Speaker 3: But it was it was.

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Speaker 5: Fun to hear you talk from a much more personal

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Speaker 5: place where you could kind of spread spread things out

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Speaker 5: and you know, you are a real human being with

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Speaker 5: a real heart and all that.

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Speaker 2: Don't kill my vibey playing a heart, all right, So

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Speaker 2: you just came back from Australia. Yep, you're here to

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Speaker 2: watch the debate in Milwaukee. We talked about the tension

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Speaker 2: that many of the participants will feel on the stage

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Speaker 2: that as it can to the way that you would

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Speaker 2: feel for a big game. You talked about the emotional impact.

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Speaker 2: Let's just talk about this. Did you when you played

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Speaker 2: for the US men's soccer team in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 2: again the last time that the World Cup was played

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Speaker 2: in the United States. Would you have ever believed that

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Speaker 2: in any way a soccer team would become a political statement,

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Speaker 2: in any way, that there would be people cheering for

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Speaker 2: or against the US team, not based at all on

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Speaker 2: how they perform on the field, but based on what

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Speaker 2: they say off of it.

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Speaker 5: I would have believed that soccer would become more popular,

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Speaker 5: and therefore the team and the players would become more popular.

656
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: But the political part of the equation I don't think

657
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 5: I could have envisioned. I mean, look, I never served

658
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: my country in a military capacity, but I walked out

659
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 5: there representing my country. I put on that shirt, I

660
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: put my hand over my heart, I sung that song,

661
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: and to me, that was a representation of my country

662
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 5: and all of us standing there doing that, and then

663
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: going out and playing the game regardless of the result.

664
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: I wanted to give the best possible account of myself

665
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: and of my country. Yeah, it never would have occurred

666
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: to me back then. I don't think it would have

667
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 5: occurred to for example, the nineteen ninety nine women's team

668
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 5: in the World Cup, Women's World Cup that we had

669
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety nine, then they went on to it.

670
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 5: I don't think either of those teams could have foreseen

671
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: how politicized the world would get, our country would get,

672
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: and how it would manifest within sports.

673
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: I said, Alexi.

674
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: I was at the Women's World Cup championship game in

675
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: Vancouver with my family in twenty fifteen. You're right, nineteen

676
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: ninety nine for people out there who remember, it was

677
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: one of the most beloved American sports teams ever. But

678
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: as recently as twenty fifteen, everyone loved the US women's

679
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: soccer team. I mean, it was a team that was

680
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: among the most liked, well respected teams that I can

681
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: remember in sports. And then in the space of eight years,

682
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: many of those same women, the Megan Rapinos of the world,

683
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: the Alex Morgans of the world. They went from everybody

684
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: wants them to win and they are a perfect representation

685
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: of American exceptionalism. To many people in this audience actually

686
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: feeling a form of joy when Meghan Rapinos guided her

687
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: penalty kick to the right and Sweden beat America. That's

688
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: an extraordinary path for the US women's soccer team to

689
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: have taken.

690
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are those to your point, that watched this

691
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: team and hate watched this team, and we're happy and

692
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: felt a sense to your point of joy and maybe vindication.

693
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's the right word. When this team,

694
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 5: when this team lost, and you know, it speaks to

695
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 5: the politicization of our country. It also speaks to the

696
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 5: polarization of the country. And so you know, when we

697
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: were talking about this team, you know, at one point

698
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: I said, look, don't kill the messenger, but this is

699
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 5: the situation, and I laid it out like you did. Yeah,

700
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: this is a team that rubs a lot of people

701
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: the wrong way. This is a team that is polarizing.

702
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 5: This is a team that, for many and for a

703
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 5: portion of the country, is unlikable, and that has been

704
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 5: created over time. And by the way, I'm not telling

705
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 5: the women or anybody in the soccer space anything that

706
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 5: they don't know, but when you say it out loud,

707
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: all hell breaks loose. Now, what I do hope is

708
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 5: that going forward, the next time we see this women's

709
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: national team or any presentation of the US in a

710
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: sports form, that it is a uniting type of thing, because,

711
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 5: as you know, there's nothing like sports, and at its

712
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: best form can bring everybody together and we can put

713
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 5: aside all of those issues for at least the ninety

714
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 5: minutes of a game. And cheer what I think is

715
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: the greatest country in the world through an actual sports

716
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: team on the field.

717
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: It's such an important point because it used to be

718
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: the case that if you are in a stadium or

719
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: an arena and your team, or even in a sports

720
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: bar wherever you may be watching a game and a

721
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: team wins, you turn around and the identity of your

722
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: fellow tribe of fans doesn't matter. Whether you are gay

723
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: or straight, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, whether you're a Democrat Republican.

724
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: You don't think about any of that when you high

725
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: five people around you and you are joyfully brought together.

726
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: That to the US women's soccer team was no longer

727
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: the case. I think for sure in twenty three, do

728
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: you think America will get back to being able to

729
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: come together again and unite in a common joy at

730
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: American exceptionalism, Or do you think we're so hopelessly disconnected

731
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: and at each other's throat that this common humanity of

732
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: being able to root for a team together is lost.

733
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 5: I do think you know I have teenagers, I know

734
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: you have kids. I do think that that generation is

735
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 5: going to be just so bombarded by this that they

736
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: might go the opposite way, and again Claig, just because

737
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 5: you want that and at this point now it looks

738
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: utopian to have that type of idealistic type of sports

739
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: of thing.

740
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: You would agree with this For people who grew up

741
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: in the seventies, eighties, nineties and even the early two thousands,

742
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: we were pretty united in terms of our ability to

743
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: root together.

744
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah we were and it felt awesome. You know, we

745
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 5: were down in Australia. The Australian national team had this moment.

746
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: The women's team got hot. I was jealous.

747
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 5: I was sitting there saying, this is what sports are about,

748
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: this is what a national team can do, and it

749
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 5: just happens to be soccer, but it can be. I mean,

750
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 5: you know, the baseball. So I do think there's moments

751
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 5: earlier this year was last year when the baseball was happening,

752
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: the national teams were playing, and people baseball. There was

753
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: a feeling that everybody was kind of coming together in

754
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: that moment. So I do think certainly can together. But

755
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 5: I do think that that can happen. And one more thing,

756
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: that does not mean, okay, that you can't express your views.

757
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 5: I Megan Repino is an incredible soccer player. I will

758
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 5: defend her to my dying breath for her to have

759
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: the ability and the freedom to be able to express things.

760
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean that it doesn't come with consequences.

761
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 5: And so when I talk about that, this is the

762
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: team and this is what has happened because of the

763
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 5: things that you have done, because of the things that

764
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: you have said, because of your actions. And I vehemently

765
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: disagree with Megan Repino and others on certain things, some

766
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: in their literal stance on the field, but ultimately, like

767
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: I said, I believe in their freedom to do so.

768
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: But in doing so, you have created this divide in

769
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 5: the way that people look, and it's relative to what's

770
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 5: happening in politics and what's happening in our nation. I

771
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 5: get that, but I do think that it might come

772
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: around where people just say, I don't want to deal

773
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: with that anymore. It's so bombarded. And I hope for

774
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 5: this next generation that they have that ability because we

775
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 5: were blessed to be able to be in those moments,

776
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: because nothing feels like when you are united as a

777
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: country and behind a country, and you can, at least

778
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: for that moment, forget about everything and all that other crap.

779
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: It's an incredible.

780
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: Feeling and we've lost that feeling, and I do worry

781
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 5: that this generation will not have the opportunity to have

782
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: that feeling.

783
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: What's it feel like to look up at CNN and

784
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: they have a graphic with you and your World Cup

785
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: performance and then Megan Rauppino's World Cup performance as if

786
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 2: you guys had played against each other in some way,

787
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: and you know what was happening. They were attacking the

788
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: validity of your opinion by trying to attack your playing career.

789
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: But when CNN it gets involved, I mean it is

790
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: a reflection of the fact that this soccer team has

791
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: become so political that that's a lead story.

792
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: So, first off, I was never allowed when I was

794
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 5: growing up to compete for a women's World Cup.

795
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Okay, uh. Secondly, there's not You would have been a

796
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: hell of a women's soccer player. I could have.

797
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 5: I could have picked some mass all right, that that

798
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 5: graphic might look very different right now. The other thing

799
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: is when it comes to comparing contrast, I was a defender.

800
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: She's an attack She's an attacking, attacking player, and you

801
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 5: cannot find an American soccer player who even comes close

802
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: to winning a World Cup at this point because the

803
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: men's team has not actually won a World Cup, but

804
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: it comes with the territories. Fine, they spelled my name

805
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 5: right and it's DNN ultimately, so so I don't you

806
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: know that's uh that that's part of you know, this

807
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: back and forth and everybody kind of has taken sides,

808
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 5: and I get where CNN is coming where they're coming from.

809
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 5: But like I said, it also was a kick ass picture.

810
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: I looked awesome in that picture, all right.

811
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: When you hear the national anthem play, you play again,

812
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: as we said on the nineteen ninety fourteen but you

813
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: I have watched you when the US plays Mexico, for instance.

814
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: You have such a tremendous amount of pride in the

815
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: United States, and it seems the case even when you're

816
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: not playing, that that emotion still overcomes you as you

817
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: watch the national anthem play. Do you think that that

818
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: is the way that the majority of American athletes feel,

819
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: is the Megan Rapinos of the world in the minority

820
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: in terms of the way that they feel in your experience,

821
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: I have to believe that you know the power of

822
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: Megan Rapino and others that kind of forced people to

823
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: do it does not necessarily represent the majority. Look, you

824
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: know the national anthem. I know it's easy to just

825
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 2: kind of throw it away and throw aside and whatever.

826
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: It's just you know, it's hackneyed, it played too much

827
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. For me, I always

828
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: looked at it at this is ninety seconds. Ninety seconds

829
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: when we can come together as a country and celebrate

830
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: what I feel is the greatest country in the world,

831
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: and all of that kind of other stuff can go away,

832
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: and it's an agreed upon ninety seconds. And so to

833
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: have that ninety second co opt or hijacked, I thought

834
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: that's where ultimately the disrespect it came from. It is

835
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: a ritual, it is a routine. It is a tradition,

836
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: and traditions can change and we can move on. But

837
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: the majority of people have agreed and come together as

838
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: a society and said this is something that we are

839
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: going to do. And by the way, when you do

840
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: agree to that, it's a wonderful, wonderful feeling. And by

841
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: no means does it mean that you don't can't have

842
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: different feelings and different opinions, or that you can't see

843
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: things that are that are bad. But in this one

844
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: moment to come together. I mean I get emotional when

845
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: I was doing it was on the field. I get

846
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: emotional when I when I see it. And you know,

847
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: you can call me corny, really really doesn't matter, because

848
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: I I this is this is a this is a

849
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: moment for my country that I feel that I have represented.

850
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: And when that is taken away, that's fine if that's

851
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: what you want to do, if that's the new tradition,

852
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: if that's the new ritual, find but that has to

853
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: be a majority. And I worry that people are being

854
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: bullied into doing that, and it, you know, comes because

855
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: people are scared. I mean, there was a time where

856
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: we were all so bold as a country and as

857
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: a people, and now we're all so scared to do

858
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: anything less, you know, And if it's one thing, if

859
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: you do it, okay, it's one thing. If you have power,

860
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: if you have money, if you have the ability to

861
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: withstand the inevitable. You know, arrows and they are going

862
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: to come. But if if, if you have to have

863
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: that to actually be honest or to stand up for

864
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: what you feel is right. What kind of a country

865
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: is that everybody should feel free and not be in

866
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: fear of saying what they believe and doing what they believe.

867
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: You know, less someone come for them. He's Alexi Lawless.

868
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: He's fantastic. Even if you don't like soccer, I know

869
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: Buck is a major soccer guy. Yes, he's to coach.

870
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: You met my wife last night who was coaching nine

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis bucksexon Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 2: with us. We are joined now by the man who

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Speaker 2: did a fabulous event I thought last night. I think

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Speaker 2: the reaction has been great in Milwaukee at the Paps Theater.

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Speaker 2: Dan O'Donnell he is killing it in Milwaukee. On eleven

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Speaker 2: thirty am wisn just total dominance in the ratings, the

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Speaker 2: market here, everything else. Congratulations to you your family was there.

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Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway from the audience and their

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Speaker 2: reaction to our conversation about the battleground that is Wisconsin.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, the optimism, I mean, you're I think a lot

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Speaker 6: more optimistic than I am about twenty two and then buck.

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Speaker 3: Is to be fair, I tend to be an optimist.

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Speaker 6: We're sort of cynics and pessimists by nature. But I

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Speaker 6: think a lot of people here in what is almost

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Speaker 6: certainly going to be, along with Georgia and Arizona, the

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Speaker 6: critical swing state. I think we believe that. Honestly, President

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Speaker 6: Trump only lost by twenty thousand votes three years ago,

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Speaker 6: and he won by about twenty thousand votes in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 6: It is that close in a state of five point

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Speaker 6: eight million people. There's a lot of work to be done, sure,

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Speaker 6: but it's not the heavy lift of say, convincing one

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Speaker 6: hundred thousand peace people to change their votes, are getting

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Speaker 6: one hundred thousand new voters out to the polls.

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Speaker 2: You know Wisconsin, Well, you just mentioned how close it

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Speaker 2: was in sixteen. Trump wins by a small margin loses

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Speaker 2: by a small margin in twenty How would you set

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Speaker 2: the odds right now? With Trump were the nominee and

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Speaker 2: if it weren't Trump, Is there anybody that you see

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Speaker 2: that could be on that stage tonight? Then you say, man,

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Speaker 2: that guy or that girl would kill I think on

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin with the with appealing to Republican voters.

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Speaker 6: I know Ron DeSantis is very strong here in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: What do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 6: Well, we've got a lot of Wisconsin nights here when

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Speaker 6: it's five below zero mid in mid January, they snowbird

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Speaker 6: down to Florida.

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Speaker 3: A great point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of people because Florida has no state

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Speaker 6: income tax and Wisconsin has a relatively high state income tax,

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Speaker 6: they've actually become Florida residents.

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Speaker 2: My mom among them, who I met last night in

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Speaker 2: is fabulous. She lives in the Naples area where we're

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Speaker 2: big down right now. I appreciate everybody.

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Speaker 6: Listening there, and you know what, people love what he

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Speaker 6: has done with the state of Florida. If the nominee

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Speaker 6: more difficult because we just had a state Supreme Court

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Speaker 6: election in which the candidate for the Conservatives was tied

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Speaker 6: very deeply to Trump. He lost by ten percentage points.

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Speaker 6: In fact, Wisconsin in the twenty sixteen primary was the

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to call it never Trump movement, but

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Speaker 6: still there are suburbanites who kind of bristle at President Trump,

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Speaker 6: and therefore I think there's an opening for someone else here.

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Speaker 6: Whether that's going to matter because our primary isn't until

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Speaker 6: next April, remains to be seen quickly here.

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Speaker 2: And it's a tough question. How much do you think

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Speaker 2: abortion matters in Wisconsin?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think it's huge.

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Speaker 6: I think the state Supreme Court race turned on two issues.

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Speaker 6: It was President Trump and it was abortion. It's going

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Speaker 6: to be a big, big issue moving forward here.

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Speaker 3: He is Dan O'Donnell.

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Speaker 2: We had so much fun the station, WISN and Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: Keep killing it, my man.

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Speaker 2: Tell your family we appreciate them coming out too, and

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Speaker 2: thank you to all who came out last night. We

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Speaker 2: are going to be joined next by the senator who

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Speaker 2: won by twenty six thousand votes in Wisconsin. What does

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Speaker 2: he think needs to happen for Wisconsin to go back

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Speaker 2: red in twenty twenty four and what does he believe

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Speaker 2: we're going to see on the stage tonight in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin in studio with us here

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee next