1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: I am Chad Norman. It is going to be college 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: football season in a matter of weeks. We're down from 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: this day as we are recording, we are down to 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: about seventeen days until week zero begins. In case you 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: haven't noticed, we have a brand new podcast feed for 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: all of our podcast for all of our college podcast content, 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Big Bets on Campus, which debuted a number twelve on 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the iTunes Sports Charts this week. It is hosted by 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Colin Wilson and Stucky, the same great college football podcast 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: they always used to do on the Action Network feed, 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: only now it's brand new feed, Big Bets on Campus. 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Everyone go check it out. I think we'd be remiss 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: even of the Favorites. It tends to be focused on 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, and Simon Hunter is going to be coming 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: on uh for the second episode we do this week, 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: along with Chris Raybon. But we gotta do a little 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: bit of college um because eventually some of these college 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be in the NFL. You want to 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: know what you want to know right now before it 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: gets too late. Colin Wilson, Pig Suey, whoo whoo, Pig 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: suey whoo, Pig suey chat win total of five and 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: a half at five point six. I hope Arkansas can 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: make a bowl. We were a three win team that 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: made the Texas Bowl and COVID canceled it because the TCU. 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: I hope there's no COVID. I hope these vaccination rates 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: go way up for these teams and we don't have 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: any issues whatsoever this fall. What am I supposed to 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: do with college football column? Why is it going to 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: be any different than Clemson's the best, Ohio States the best, 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Alabama's the best, Oklahoma's the best, Georgia's the best. Give 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: me something to root for season long. That is not 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: about those four or five teams. If you want that 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of drama, then you have to go to the 35 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Group of five. But you know, I think it's like 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I both agree on our podcast that Georgia and Oklahoma 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: is going to be the national championship game. These are 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: the teams that don't have any turnover in their coaching stabs. 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: These are the teams that don't have turnover at the 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: quarterback position. All the other big blue bloods do. Uh 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and I hate to say it, but we've turned into 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: the n B A. We used to joke when we 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: started podcasting five years ago, we knew the Warriors would 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: be in the finals. We knew it for nine months. 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: And now college football has turned into a sport where 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: six teams can win the national championship. I mean, we're 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: still looking at only ten teams that have ever ten 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: programs have only ever made the College Football Playoff. It's 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: it's really uh. This is the season where Cincinnati is 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: going to be probably the best group of five to 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: ever play in the college football playoff era, and they'll 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: have no chance, even beating Notre Dame, they'll have no 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: chance to make the playoff. Well, well, let's talk about 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: that for a second. A. I love Cincinnati being great. 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I love it because in a lot of ways, you 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: could argue Luke Fickle, who's the coach at Cincinnati, got 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: totally screwed at Ohio State right because he had to 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: manage that team for a shitty period of time in 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: the program's history, and instead of getting real consideration to 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: eventually be the head coach at Ohio State, it's clear 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: to him that he's not going to get that, so 62 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: he goes to Cincinnati and has turned a mediocre, moribund 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: program that would be good every fourth or fifth year 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: into a group of five juggering what people are all 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden saying they are the tip of the 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: spear on the argument for expanding the playoff to get 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: teams like Cincinnati into it. Good for him, good for Cincinnati? Yeah, 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: I completely agree, and I think Cincinnati is the team 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: if you you're not gonna get one of these teams 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: in unless you have to win conference champions And I 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: think the bar was really the Playoff Committee set the 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: bar when they said Alabama as a one loss at large, 73 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: we'll get in above an Ohio State with two losses. 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: So I think if we're looking down the line, I 75 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: think since I can go in defeed, I think they 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: win their conference. I think they can beat Notre Dame. 77 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: They have two shutdown corners. Desmond Ritter's explosiveness was off 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: the chart last year. But I really interested to see 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: if Michigan fires Jim Harbor at the end of the 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: season and Luke Fickle is the head coach of mission 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: of Ohio State's biggest rival, that would be heck of 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: a storyline. I didn't even consider that. You know what's interesting, 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: I listened to UM. I listened to the Big Bets 84 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: on Campus podcast this past week. It was the Big 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: ten episode and it's brilliant and and you guys talked 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot about Michigan, a lot about the luster of 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: that brand name, how it's influencing the season win totals 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: for that team. Breakdown the Michigan, the reality for Michigan 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: and what you see versus what bookmakers tend to see 90 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: and how they post the number and what the discrepancy is. Yeah, 91 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: that's that's a real problem for Michigan is that they're 92 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: in a very heavy betting state, so there's going to 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: always be an appetite for the Wolverines. And then there's 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: just this class of alumni and fan that grew up 95 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: on Michigan football and still thinks that their national title 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: relevant or that they're even conference relevant, and they're not. 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: You've got quarterback to play has just been in the dumps. 98 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Milton last year had more way more turnover worthy plays 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: than actual big time throws. He moves on. Some of 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: their other skill town has moved on. You know, the 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: running back went to u c. L A. Now We've 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: got a kid Mcnamerican that's played one game, looked okay, 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: We've got Bowman coming in from Texas Tech. It's it's 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: kind of a mess. And I think it starts at 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: the top because herball went and got Josh Gadness as 106 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator after having this amazing season for Alabama. He 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: was the next coming of all offensive coordinators. What we 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: thought we were gonna get with Josh Gadis is what 109 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: we got with Joe Burrow uh down at LSU that season, 110 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: and it just never happened for Gaddis on the defense. Meanwhile, 111 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, it just never happened on the offense. Meanwhile, 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: the defense continues to get torched. Uh, they're switching schemes. 113 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: There's players you know coming in that it's just not 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 1: up to the recruiting talent that they've had in the past. 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: So I think Jim Harbas do for another six seven 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: win season, a bowl that Michigan fans don't want to 117 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: be in. But yet the oddsmakers set this total at 118 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Why because they know they're gonna 119 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: get over money all day on seven and six and 120 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: a half. It's just a team in a state where 121 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: there's heavy amount of betting where you can't set an 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: actual number if it's lower, it's Harbaugh a fraud. As 123 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: a coach, he wears on, he wears thin on on players, 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: and that's what happened with the Niners. And then the 125 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Niners players are like, listen, I'm a pro. I don't 126 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: need this ship. You're up in my face all the time, 127 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: and and you know you grind on me. That's just 128 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: how he is a coach. Now, you can get away 129 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: with that at the college level. These are kids are 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: in and out of the program in three years. But 131 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: the fan base I think is a little liared of 132 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: some of you know, why are we hanging back with 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the joes of the Big ten? Why are we having 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: problems with some of the bottom seller tins. We were 135 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: not challenging Ohio State anymore. We're you know, the discrepancy 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: is getting larger between us and the blue bloods of 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: the conference. We haven't made a college football playoff. We 138 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: haven't sniffed the playoff. Uh. You know, it's really up 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: to the boosters, the fans in the alumni about how 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: they feel about one of their own, because you know 141 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen once they fire hardball. We gotta go 142 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: out and get a Michigan guy. If we don't get 143 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: a Michigan guy, it's gonna be Rich Rodriguez all the way. 144 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: It's many I forgot Michigan fans saying that they have 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: been in the cocktail. Yes, a Michigan man. It's who 146 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: are you gonna go get? Right? And if there's no 147 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: one there that has Michigan ties, then here we are, 148 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, running the same circle. Wow, that would be fascinating. 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: At the end of the year of Luke Fickle has 150 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: the opportunity to take Michigan. Is there any chance someone 151 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: like Luke Fickle says I'm pretty happy at Cincinnati and 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: doesn't attempt to take a Michigan job. Or is the 153 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: way college football is going and especially with Oklahoma and 154 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Texas now headed for the SEC, coaches are going to 155 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: there's even more of a premium on those Power five 156 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: schools because that's the only way you're going to get 157 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: a chance to play for a national title. It's it's 158 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: a big balance between what are your career aspirations versus 159 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: your comfort and life? All Right, Luke Fickle's you know, 160 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Ohio just his entire career and his love of Ohio 161 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: can cannot be said enough. But at the same time, 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: if a team from the SEC it is drawing just 163 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: tons of money and they're throwing tons of money at 164 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: you to come to their program, you obviously have to 165 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: make a decision to go. Why Matt Campbell's never left 166 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: Iowa State, I have no clue. They have a ceiling 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: on them from a wind total perspective, from national expectations perspective, 168 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: and the more that he doesn't make the Cultural Playoff 169 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: or win the Big Twelve, then he's going to be 170 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: letting fans down, even though they've only had three nine 171 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: win seasons and program history since the eighteen nineties. So 172 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: these coaches like Fickle and Matt Campbell, at some point 173 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: they've got to gravitate to where the money is. And 174 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: if you have career aspirations, I mean, we all do 175 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: in the field that we're in. We want to do 176 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: better and climb that ladder. Cincinnati and Iowas Iowa State 177 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: are not final destinations. I don't really feel they need 178 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: to climb the ladder anymore. We are the top of 179 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: the ladder. We I'm like, I'm like standing on a 180 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: rung that doesn't even exist, Colin, there's nothing left for 181 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: me to climb. Anything from here on out is just 182 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: kind of showing off. Um. You mentioned Iowa State, that program, 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: that team outside of the ones, we mentioned another program 184 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: that has huge upside this year. Yeah, they do. And 185 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: I think what we mentioned on the Big twelve podcast 186 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: was there's a ceiling to this team. And I listen, 187 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a hater of Iowa State, and I'm not 188 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: a hater of Matt Campbell, but and they run this 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: beautiful offense that integrates two tight ends, three tight end sets, 190 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: lots of motion going to confuse you, and Rock Party 191 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: wins everybody bets in October. That's great, but you're still 192 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: going to three overtimes against Northern Iowa. You still haven't 193 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: beat Kirk Ference at Iowa. Uh, you're losing to group 194 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: of five schools in September. And I think we have 195 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: to remember that as loaded as his team and as 196 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: talented as his team is, there's still just three stars. 197 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Maybe if a four star like Greece Hall was a 198 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: four star in there, and when you go up against 199 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: an Oklahoma team that is just shocked full of five 200 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: stars and four stars. I think I said this in 201 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: the podcast that Iowa State since seventeen has had three 202 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: recruits that have been four stars, and that time Oklahoma 203 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: has had eighty four five and four star athletes come 204 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: through the program. So there's only so I mean, I 205 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: love the players and they're fantastic, and Breece Hall should 206 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: be mentioned for Heisman, but I'm sorry, but there's just 207 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: a huge gap and talent. All right, So you mentioned Heisman, 208 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: and I do want to get to Heisman. Uh. But 209 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: before we do that, in in order of operations, here, 210 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: here's how I want to lay out what we're going 211 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: to do over the next fifteen minutes. I want you 212 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: to give me the best future value right now for 213 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: making the college football playoff. Number one, I have five 214 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: questions you will need to answer them. Best future value 215 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: for making the college football playoff right now Oklahoma. So, 216 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Oklahoma has the path of least resistance. If you look 217 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: at some of these other teams. Clemson and Georgia play 218 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: each other at the beginning of the season, one of 219 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: them has to lose, uh, and that means that they 220 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: have no room for air and the rest of their schedule. 221 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: Remember what I said, the college while playoff does not 222 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: like two lost teams, and they've proved it for it 223 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you in your conference. So with Clemson 224 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: and Georgia, one of those is automatically going to have 225 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: a big mark, big strike against them. Alabama breaking in 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: a new quarterback, new offensive positions. This team that we 227 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: saw last year might have been the best in college 228 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: football history. A ten game SEC schedule just flew through 229 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: it like there was no tomorrow. But they're breaking in 230 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: a new quarterback. Ohio State is also breaking in a 231 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: new quarterback. But I would say that their schedule isn't 232 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: it's tough. But Oklahoma best wide receiver unit in the nation, 233 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: uh one of the top three offensive lines, top three 234 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: defense in the nation, and Spencer Rattler, who's leading the 235 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: odds for to win the Heisman. There's just not enough 236 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: defense on this schedule to stop them from getting to 237 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And keep in mind like they can chuck 238 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: a game because of the way it's set up in 239 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: the in the Big Twelve, it's round robins, So you 240 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: can lose a game and you're fine. All you have 241 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: to finish is top two in the in the conference 242 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: and play for the conference championship and listen, Alex Grench. 243 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: We said this on our podcast on Action Never three 244 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: years ago, Alex Grench, after he gets a couple of 245 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: years under his belt. This defense that is in the 246 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl with Baker Mayfield was just a bunch of 247 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: lawn chairs and statues standing out there in Pasadena. And 248 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: once Alex Crench comes in, they're gonna be loaded with 249 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: havoc and chaos. And last year they finished top twenty 250 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: and that's not going to stop. His Oklahoma defense is 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: for real alright. So, uh, Simon Hunter just joined us. 252 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I do want to give him a chance to ask 253 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: any questions if he has any. Uh. Simon was delayed 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: for a dental appointment, and it is just very brave 255 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: of him generally to be able to get on the podcast, 256 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: uh and join us right now. Simon, Hello, Hello, chat Colin. 257 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: We're stucky by the way, the funk if I know, 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: I just slapped him, like, where the funk are you? 259 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Unbelievable man. I was looking forward to seeing him in Colin. Now, Well, 260 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: at least we have the better one, right, the smarter one, 261 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: I should say, we definitely got. We got the more 262 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: eloquent one for sure. Um, well, now I've listened to 263 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: the show man, I love it. You guys are I 264 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: just love um? It's fun here and what all what 265 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: different pros think and view and it's awesome when you 266 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: line up with other people I trust. And I'm just like, okay, 267 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: So not that I'm like low nup, but I am 268 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: kind of I just got the itch, you know what 269 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: it is. It's football season. 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Let's get back to the show, all right. 305 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: My first question long as odds to make the colful 306 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: playoff the value you like? You like Oklahoma, give me 307 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: the season wind total over that you love the most 308 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: right now? Any conference group of five power five doesn't matter. 309 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: U c l A over seven. I compared this in 310 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: the pack Tol podcast to like a buffet. I keep 311 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: going back to the buffet and I want to eat this, 312 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: and I want to eat that, and I want to 313 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: eat this, and I wanna eat that. And those two 314 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: teams are Utah and u c l A. And I'll 315 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: stick with U c l A on the wind total 316 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: because Utah, I think is gonna win the packs fell 317 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: South they host U c l A. But year four 318 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: for chip Kelly, we have the highest retention. Now, and 319 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: I think about this. U c l A always recruits 320 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: at extremely high level with chip Kelly, and so does 321 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: Texas AY and M. But Texas A and M has 322 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: like thirty retention rate of all the recruits that they 323 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: brought in u c l. A has retained se They've 324 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: completely taken advantage of this super senior rule. Their defense 325 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: returns everybody, which is kind of a good thing and 326 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: a bad thing. They couldn't stop the rush, so hopefully 327 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: that improves a little bit. But Dorian Thompson Robinson can 328 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: score on any play on any yard marker. And yes, 329 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: I know about the turnovers, and I know that he 330 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: can be volatile at times. But what people aren't paying 331 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: attention to this year is they went out, Kelly went 332 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: out and got San Jose States passing game coordinator and 333 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: he said, passing game coordinator from San Jose State. Yeah, 334 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: they turned that program around. Remember San Jose State was 335 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: like undefeated and Nick Starkle was dropping bombs on everybody 336 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: late at night and people were like, who the hell 337 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: is San Jose State? Well, the passing game coordinator is 338 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: now the quarterbacks coach for U c l A, Ryan Gunderson, 339 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: former Royals Award nominee. And if he can trim down 340 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: just some of the mistakes and the inconsistencies the DTR has, 341 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: you see a A is a major player in this 342 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: Uh there, I think absolutely they are contender in the 343 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: South and I'll take over seven any day. U c 344 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: l A comes up so infrequently when we talked about 345 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: college football these days, the fact that a team from 346 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve would be a contender. Do you think 347 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: if they Trent, if they put dtr in a better 348 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: position to take care of the ball, this is a 349 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: team they can contend in the Pact twelve and potentially 350 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: contend for a college football play off. I mentioned it 351 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: on our Pact twelve podcast, should be out this week 352 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: on on Big Bets on Campus, and I think Stuck 353 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: shot it down immediately, like national contention for a Pac 354 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: twelve team, No way. There's a lot of talent, especially 355 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: in this Pact twelve South, and a lot of people 356 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: want to point to USC, but I don't think the 357 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: air raid could they have their problems? Uh Utah and 358 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: u c l are heavily, heavily talented, lots of lots 359 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: of defense from the Utah perspective. Arizona State to the 360 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: problem with Arizona State is just this cloud, these recruiting 361 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: violation cloud that's that's hanging over them right now. And 362 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: the question comes out every year can they be in 363 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: the national title picture? I think Oregan takes a step back. Uh, 364 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: you know that to blow the podcast that we I'm 365 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: under Oregan at nine wins too many changes. I don't 366 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: like the defensive coordinator move Anthony Brown is they're gonna 367 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: be their quarterback. They're gonna get walled Wahio State and 368 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: Week two. So your best chance of being nationally relevant 369 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: is going to come out of the South, and to me, 370 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: that's Utah and U c l A. Al Right, next question, 371 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: your favorite I have a feeling you know the answer 372 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: to this. Your favorite under for all a hundred and 373 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: twenties stunting college football teams? Favorite under is The first 374 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: bet I put in this season was back in Mark. 375 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I think during March Madness. These numbers started coming out 376 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: and it didn't matter if it was the East Coast 377 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: or West Coast. I was hitting this as many places 378 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I could until I got shut down by one book. 379 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: And that's Notre Dame under nine. I had the state, 380 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: I had the team run. You thought I was gonna 381 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: go Indiana, and listen, Indiana had a kind of a 382 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: rabbit's foot up their ass last year and maybe that'll stay. 383 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: There are some redeeming qualities that they have, but Notre 384 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: Dame on the other hand, is going through everything you 385 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: want to look for when it comes to an under 386 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Their defensive coordinator who is just can work magic, Clark Lee. 387 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: He is now the head coach at Vanderbilt. So they 388 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: now have a new defensive coordinator, Marcus Freeman, and Marcus 389 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: Freeman is a great recruiter, but that doesn't help now. 390 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: And he's going to change the scheme to a three 391 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: three five over a four to five. So you have 392 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: a ton of production that's been lost on both sides 393 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: of the ball. Ian book is not there anymore. Jack 394 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: Cohen from Wisconsin is now the quarterback, but he's more 395 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: of like a game manager. It's not really an explosive 396 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: quarterback whatsoever. They don't have any explosiveness or experience on 397 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: the outside. Uh. Their main passing plays are gonna be 398 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: to a tight end dump over the middle. Uh. They 399 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: lose some of their great offensive linemen and if you 400 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: look at their offensive or last year brand new Tommy Rees, 401 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: uh upped their rushing rate, like they jumped up to 402 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: one of the highest rush teams on the nation, like 403 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: Army level. Like, so they're not gonna pass the ball 404 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: that much. They don't have any explosiveness on the outside. 405 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: Jack Cohen, Well, I've seen enough out of him from 406 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: Wisconsin to know that this is not a ten win team. 407 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Defense is undergoing a schematic change and they lost some 408 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: of their best tacklers. So Notre Dame under nine with 409 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: that schedule, I'll take it all day. Well, I'll tell 410 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: you what they do have Chad plugging away here. The 411 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: volume has their own thing called Inside the Garage. It's 412 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: a podcast of the Neitre Dame guys. I actually check 413 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: it out. You're breaking my heart because I wanted to 414 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: bet their over because I like the dudes on the show. 415 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: That's heartbreaking. But there's no friendship and gambling. Like I said, 416 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: I bet against my own favorite team. So I give constant. 417 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: I gotta bet that under. I'm gonna take that under South. 418 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: Are you all be coming on today to plug? Is 419 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: that that's like, that's your role in the podcast today. 420 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm selling out so hard right now, Chad. It's unbelieab 421 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: but maybe it's the novocain. You might be right. Give 422 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: me a little posest. Let me leave you this. Simon 423 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: so Clarkeley was their defensive coordinator and he's from the 424 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: School of mike Elco. Mike Elco, who's at Texas A 425 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: and m before Mike Elco and Clarkley we're at Notre Dame. 426 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: That's when they have their four and eight season, and 427 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: it was just an absolute I mean, they just fell 428 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: off a cliff and it's because of the defense. And 429 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: now here they are without either Mike Elko or clark Lee. Alright, 430 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: two more questions for you. The next question. Last question 431 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: will be about the Himan. The next question, give me 432 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: the four teams that will be in the College Football Playoff. 433 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Georgia and Oklahoma in the national 434 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: championship games, so that leads to other spots. One is 435 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: gonna be Ohio State. There's just not a lot of 436 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: resistance in that conference. If you look at Penn State's schedule, 437 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: it's brutal. I mean, even if they were to beat 438 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Ohio State, there's still two losses on that schedule. Uh So, 439 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: Ohio State shouldn't have any problems and maybe challenged by 440 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Wisconsin in the in the Big Ten Championship. But Ohio State, 441 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take is the third team and then the 442 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: fourth team. Outside of that, you're really looking at an 443 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: Alabama team that should possibly lose the Georgian SC Championship 444 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: as I'm predicting, or a Clemson team that may lose 445 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: to Georgia in the very beginning. So the fourth to 446 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: me is an extreme wild card. The one thing I 447 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: do know, it's not gonna be Cincinnati, which is gonna 448 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: be really upsetting to me after they beat Notre Dame 449 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: and have the schedule to be there. So I'm just 450 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: gonna go with Alabama as an at large into the spot. Uh. 451 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: The committee has proven before they like brand names, they 452 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: like TV ratings and and you. They're gonna take that 453 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: over a one loss pack twelve champion. They're gonna take 454 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: Alabama as a one loss team any day. So that 455 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: that would be my that would be my college ball. 456 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: I did not expect you to say Georgia and Oklahoma 457 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: in the finals. That would be nice for Georgia. They've 458 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: had some hard luck and it was it's starting to 459 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: feel like they will forever be a great team that 460 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: gets forgotten because they play in the same era as Alabama. 461 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: So they need a year like what you're talking about 462 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: to crack through and have that legacy memorable status. The big, 463 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: the big difference for Georgia everybody needs to realize is 464 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: that Todd Monkan is their offensive coordinator now and they 465 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: aren't afraid to pass on first down with J. T. Daniels. 466 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: That's the problem with George in the past. They were 467 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: living college football fifteen years ago when it was all 468 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: about rushed on first down, second down, third Now we're 469 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna pound the rock. That doesn't work in college football anymore. 470 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: Last question, I'm going to bet who's going to win 471 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: the Heisman. You mentioned Spencer Rattler, you mentioned Brock Purty. Uh, 472 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: give me your best future value to win the Heisman 473 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: Trophy and it's uh, it's gonna be tough to be 474 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler. And the reason why I say that is 475 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: because if you look at the history of the Heisman 476 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: Trophy and the voters, ou players continue to win this. 477 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: And remember, after you win up Heisman, you get a vote, 478 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: so that the base of voters continue to expand as 479 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: as oh you voters. So it's hard to go past 480 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler and what he has. But if I had 481 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: to throw uh somebody out there, Casey Thompson at Texas, 482 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: I believe what Steve Sarkesian's do and out down to 483 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Texas is going to pay off. It's going to be huge. 484 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: He's setting a new culture completely different than what Tom Herman. 485 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: But for Casey Thompson to win that for Texas, they've 486 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: got to win the Big Twelve, and I don't think 487 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: that's possible. So I will point to a team that 488 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: I think can absolutely win uh their conference championship, and 489 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: that's North Carolina and Sam How. What Sam How has 490 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: been able to do since the day that he was 491 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: a freshman has shown that he's NFL ready. He has 492 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: an NFL arm uh and we're gonna find out this 493 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: year because he loses a couple of explosive weapons that 494 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: are now in the NFL. But I don't think it's 495 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna matter. Mac Brown has recruited just fine. They're gonna 496 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: put up serious numbers. They're not gonna face Clemson until 497 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: the last game of the year, right before the Heisman. 498 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: Voters have to get that ballance submitted. Uh if I 499 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: had to take a shot outside of Spencer Rattler to 500 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: be Sam How And that's why I bet for number 501 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: one pick. I love doing that bet too. Like future 502 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: bets using the number one pick. I bet him as well. 503 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: I just I love like I watched his tape. I 504 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: love that kids say to me is the highest ceiling 505 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: right now for any of these kids coming out next 506 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: year in the draft. A little added bonus for the draft, 507 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: just for people to get primed. Colin Wilson, you were 508 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: saying Oklahoma will be the longest, the best future value 509 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: to make the college football Playoff. You like Georgia and Oklahoma, 510 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: Alabama and Ohio State in the College Football Player. 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