WEBVTT - The BroadCast: 6/20/2018 ~ Draft Pod - The Day Before, with B/R's Jonathan Wasserman

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Draft Day is tomorrow. The closest will ever

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<v Speaker 1>come ever again any type of singing here on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Seltzer welcoming you into a We're about twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours or so away from Draft nine edition of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to be great to be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>John Wasserman of Bleacher Report. He is the top NBA

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<v Speaker 1>scout and draft writer on staff there. We have gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the well of Washerman multiple times the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years as we get ready for the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll run down his thoughts on what might happen in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten, what could go down with these seventy sixers,

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<v Speaker 1>and some names that will be on the top of

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<v Speaker 1>his mind on Thursday. Reminder that to subscribe to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>be someone who holds the title of lead NBA scout

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<v Speaker 1>and draft writer for any media outlet these days, os

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<v Speaker 1>are you have probably one busy dude, no doubt. Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Washerman of Bleacher Report, is John, how are you holding up? Man? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of information out there and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sorting and filtering through to find out what's real and

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<v Speaker 1>what's not. You kind of hear conflicting things from different people,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, at this point you're sending out a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of text messages trying to get a feel for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who's favoring who and who they're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it's a couple guys for each team that they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looking at, and you know, the closer we get,

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<v Speaker 1>the more what they call misinformation seems to be out there,

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<v Speaker 1>so at difficult time to really assess who's going where.

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<v Speaker 1>When the draft is on the doorstep? Is it more

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<v Speaker 1>excitement for you when it comes around? Is it relief

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<v Speaker 1>when it's over? Are there things in between? You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>There is no relief. I mean, there's definitely excitement, and

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<v Speaker 1>particularly this year when you know the same guy who

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<v Speaker 1>could go too could also go nine, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>this year is going to be wild in particular, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the draft ends and then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden you can't you can't help but look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>the summer league. So there's there's no real relief in it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, you know, such a fun process. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be in this business if I was excited when it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, this is a really exciting time of year,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly this year, because I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the most unpredictable drafts in recent memory.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a tweet about that, and I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up to you if you didn't just reference it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think are some of the foremost factors

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<v Speaker 1>that you would attribute to the fact that this could

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<v Speaker 1>be so volatile on Thursday night and you might not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to predict how it plays out. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>got three guards and three bigs, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anybody there's no clear consensus of who's better than who

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of Bagley Bomba and Jared Jackson, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the three guards with Trey, Trey Young, Colin Sexton, Guild

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<v Speaker 1>Justs Alexander. Everyone has a different order, it seems. M

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<v Speaker 1>And then you throw Michael Porter Junior into the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>who came into the year as a number one overall candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>and now there are questions about his back and whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're legitimate questions, whether they're they're blown out of proportion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how did he fit into the mix? And

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<v Speaker 1>then Luca Donche, who could be the best prospect in

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<v Speaker 1>this entire draft. Um, and if the Suns passed on him,

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<v Speaker 1>there are legit whispers out there that Sacramento, Atlanta they're

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<v Speaker 1>not interested. So there's just so many factors into this uh,

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<v Speaker 1>into this year's field, and and um, just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of parody among the top group of guys. Then there

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<v Speaker 1>was the news on Monday and followed into Tuesday that

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<v Speaker 1>Mo bomba Um out of the Philadelphia suburban school Westtown,

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<v Speaker 1>said that he didn't want to release his medical records

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<v Speaker 1>from the Memphis Grizzlies. And I gotta think that's got

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<v Speaker 1>a a wrench into the way that the top four

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<v Speaker 1>could play out too. Yeah, I mean that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm the Memphis Grizzlies, that worries me. You also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he may be the best player available, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's very tough to take a guy who clearly doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go play for you. There's also the question,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with bomba of I assume he wants to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and be the centerpiece in the middle, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>tough to picture him and Marcus all fitting together in

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<v Speaker 1>one lineup, So I could see why Bomba does not

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<v Speaker 1>want to go there. I could see why the Grizzlies

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<v Speaker 1>have trouble seeing him as a fit. Even if they

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<v Speaker 1>do predict him as the best player available, there are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be other guys who are probably offer equal upside,

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<v Speaker 1>who fit the lineup better. So we've got this whole

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<v Speaker 1>unpredictability thing going on with the top upper echelan slots

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<v Speaker 1>in this year's draft. Does that necessarily mean that it

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<v Speaker 1>is a statement or reflection on talent? I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>everyone agrees that the top ten this year is a

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<v Speaker 1>solid top ten. You could potentially get a star at

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<v Speaker 1>number eight. Usually you don't say that, so and again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just it's very difficult to determine who's better than who.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they all kind of offer different things with

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<v Speaker 1>Bagley gives you the athleticism and Bomba gives you the

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<v Speaker 1>rim protection in Jared Jackson is the perfect fit with

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<v Speaker 1>his shooting and defense, and then Trey Young with his

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<v Speaker 1>incredible stats and playmaking, but does he have the size

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<v Speaker 1>and explosiveness to do it? And guilt as Alexander has

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<v Speaker 1>got the size, but does he have the skill and

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<v Speaker 1>athleticism and sex and can score, but could he pass?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's just so many different questions. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, every guy with questions has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things to love about them and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>upside before we dive into the seventy six ers. And

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully this isn't putting you on the spot too much

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in time as it currently stands, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to rattle off your top ten and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a quick bullet as to why you would make that

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<v Speaker 1>choice where you would have a guy with him that well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think eight is seems setting stone at number one. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the draft again starts at number two right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with Bagley. I think he makes too much

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<v Speaker 1>sense there. I do know that they like Porter, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think at number two they would have to they

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<v Speaker 1>want to Porter. They trade down Atlanta right now, Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Jr. But I do know they like Trey Young

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<v Speaker 1>and could look to trade down as well. Memphis, don

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<v Speaker 1>Chich I can't imagine they passed there. Dallas five. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Bomba. I probably go with Bomba there and

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<v Speaker 1>then the next three in a row. In some order.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still thinking Trey Young goes somewhere in there. Michael Porter,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think Kevin Knox goes to the Knicks, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that at number ten, Philly is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Mikl Bridges. Do you think if if Porter, if the

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<v Speaker 1>news about um the injury had not come out last week,

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<v Speaker 1>would that have made it all that much more likely

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<v Speaker 1>that Sacramento could have been even more line to potentially

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<v Speaker 1>go with him at number two? You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the news last week was not a big deal. The

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<v Speaker 1>medical reports, from what we hear, all seemed fine. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>new popped up. You know, you knew going in that

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<v Speaker 1>he's got it. He had the back problem. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>spasm that held him out from his pro day, from participating.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're looking at the picture five years down

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<v Speaker 1>the line. I don't think one little spasm here it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change your evaluation. So, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what kind of information the Kings have. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they heard. The report was from ESPN that

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't get at of bed, and then they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went backtracked and said it was blown out of proportion.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this is all part of the misinformation thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all to the eye of the beholder to

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<v Speaker 1>decide how big a deal it is for the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six ers since they started working guys out, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to last week, probably say the top talent guys that

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<v Speaker 1>they had in were a Lonnie Walk of the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and this is in no particular order of just rattling

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<v Speaker 1>them off as I think of them. Miles Bridges, Mikail Bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Knox twice. Do you think that gives an

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<v Speaker 1>indication or an idea of what type of player they

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<v Speaker 1>might be leaning towards at number ten should they stay there? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could say that. You could also say that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick from one of those four guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think it's pretty clear that sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they would love a wing like this, and particularly one

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<v Speaker 1>who can kind of play off the ball, and those

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<v Speaker 1>guys fit. They also fit the tier of talent for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody you take at number ten. You mentioned Knox, he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming twice, but there are a lot of signs pointing

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<v Speaker 1>that the Knicks do like him. At nine Walker, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's intriguing with upside, But I think a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Mikael Bridges, who obviously has ties to Philly and is

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<v Speaker 1>the more proven player Philly is kind of looking to win. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, Michael Bridges is such an obvious fit and

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<v Speaker 1>target for Philly. If we now the focus to the

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<v Speaker 1>three guys, both Bridges and Knocks, do you see the Sixers'

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<v Speaker 1>fortunes being dramatically better one way or the other depending

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<v Speaker 1>on which one of those three guys they end up with,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you step back take a thirty thousand foot

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<v Speaker 1>surface level view of this, are they within the same

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<v Speaker 1>caliber type of player? You know, some guys I think

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<v Speaker 1>are ready to go faster than others. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>put Mical Bridges in there and next year he is

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate rotation player. I think Lonnie Walker is going

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<v Speaker 1>to need some time, although I do think the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>is better suited for his game. But he just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, he just he came in mid season. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an ideal. I think he needs some time, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say G League, but maybe some garbage time

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<v Speaker 1>to get his confidence up. I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a regular rotation player right away. It

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<v Speaker 1>also depends on how they feel their free agent holes

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Bridges again, also, I don't know how ready he

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<v Speaker 1>is to come in and score. I guess he's a shotmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't create much. I keep going back to

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bridges. I just think between his defense, his shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>his efficient offense inside the arc sixty percent on twos,

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<v Speaker 1>he just knows how to play within his system. He

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to play directly to his strengths around

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<v Speaker 1>star caliber guys, kind of like he did at Villanova.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Michael Bridges helps out right away. Maybe five

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<v Speaker 1>years from now. Lonnie Walker has the most upside. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years younger Bridges. Michael will turn twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two in August. But I still think Michael is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who you know, like Victor Oladipo had two years

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<v Speaker 1>in college as a role player, and then he was

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<v Speaker 1>a late bloomer and he continued to get better. And

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<v Speaker 1>Lescotts he talked to all rave about Michael bridges work ethic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think if there's an older guy who you

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<v Speaker 1>can bet on to keep getting better, Michael is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those candidates. From what you've been able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>people you've spoken to, was there a defining juncture in

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bridges' career that convinced NBA scenell types that all right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what this kid is going to be, and

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<v Speaker 1>he does have this much upside and he's put himself

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<v Speaker 1>in that lottery pick top ten category. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was just midway through the season when he was just

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<v Speaker 1>the consistency held up. You know, he started off hot,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got to be able to kind of keep

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<v Speaker 1>it going for an entire season, and I think midway

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<v Speaker 1>through you realized that he wasn't going to fall back,

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<v Speaker 1>and he continued to shoot lights out. He finished at

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<v Speaker 1>forty three and a half percent from downtown hit scoring

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<v Speaker 1>point from nine points to seventeen points. Every other game.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hitting the twenties, and we started to see

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<v Speaker 1>more flashes of shot creativity. I know, the first two

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<v Speaker 1>years he's more of a cash and shoot mind drive

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<v Speaker 1>type of guy, and he still is that guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>every so often you saw a step back, you saw

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<v Speaker 1>a fall away out of the post, you saw him

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<v Speaker 1>handled the ball and picking roll situations, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>get the impression that he's going to continue building on

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<v Speaker 1>the flashes that he showed this year. When you look

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<v Speaker 1>at his three point shooting relative to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other guys that he's been the conversation with as far

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<v Speaker 1>as who goes before who else. I mean someone like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say a Miles Bridges one hundred and ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>three point attempts. That's not an insignificant amount, even for

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<v Speaker 1>someone like Kevin Knox one hundred and sixty seven, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a small amount. But for McCall, I mean two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty nine and you make one hundred four

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<v Speaker 1>hitting that quates out to round forty four percent. That's

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<v Speaker 1>no small sample size. That seems like it's it's pretty legit,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially given where he was even going back to

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<v Speaker 1>his second playing season. Yeah, any good free throw shooter too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love looking at the free throw numbers and also

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<v Speaker 1>the eye test. I mean again, every scout evaluates differently.

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<v Speaker 1>I put stock into the eye test and I look

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<v Speaker 1>at Bridges take a jump shot. He gets great elevation,

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<v Speaker 1>that high release, kind of flick of the wrist. I

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<v Speaker 1>just you could just really see his jumper translating maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more so than Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>shot poorly from the free throw line his first year,

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<v Speaker 1>much better his second year. But I just buy into

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's mechanics, and really nothing against Knox Is either. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's got a pretty good stroke too. Who, in

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<v Speaker 1>your views since the college season ended, helped himself the most?

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<v Speaker 1>Who have you seen, perhaps take a few steps back,

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<v Speaker 1>The guys who helped himself the most have been Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Herder from Maryland and Dante DiVincenzo from Villanova. They both

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<v Speaker 1>stood out at the NBA Combine and then everybody saw

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<v Speaker 1>it. It It was kind of obvious. Josh Akogi as well

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<v Speaker 1>from Georgia Tech. They just look like NBA players, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you got to put him in a setting with

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<v Speaker 1>other NBA players or potential first and second rounders to

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<v Speaker 1>really convince yourself that they are legit. So I really

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<v Speaker 1>think those guys are top twenty picks. And and and Jerome

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson as a guy who's kind of heating up Boston College,

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<v Speaker 1>sat out the combine, but everybody likes him, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you go back and look at the film and you realize,

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<v Speaker 1>how the hell did I miss this guy iverage twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four points during acc play. Honestly, it's tough to really

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<v Speaker 1>fall down the rankings during this pre draft process. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really tough to screw up, you know, you're playing one

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<v Speaker 1>on zero most of the time. Interviews Mitchell Robinson has

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<v Speaker 1>raised a lot of questions as a guy who's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sat out a lot, and he's somebody who had

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<v Speaker 1>to prove himself since he skipped a season and then

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<v Speaker 1>skipped the combine. Not the greatest interviewer Anthony Simons, who

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<v Speaker 1>comes straight out of high school. I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of questioning who is he? Is he a point guard?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a score? Because if he's a score, he's

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<v Speaker 1>really skinny, it doesn't have much bulk on him. Clearly

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<v Speaker 1>needs to go to the G League, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know what you're gonna get with the kid

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of high school being nineteen. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>two guys I think Simons and Mitchell Robinson who are

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<v Speaker 1>wild cards, hey or miss guys. But with so many

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<v Speaker 1>other people rising, naturally two guys have to fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think those two might be them, and as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Robert Williams from Texas Say and M and I

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<v Speaker 1>stand out. Has the tools, has the athleticism, but two

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<v Speaker 1>years he showed no improvement as a score, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he can't really show that during workouts, so I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if Robert Williams tips slides a few spots

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<v Speaker 1>in this year's first round. In addition to Kevin Knox,

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<v Speaker 1>the six was also brought back Sire Smith for a

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<v Speaker 1>second time. And we don't get to see all the workouts,

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<v Speaker 1>but from what we saw on Tuesday, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to put him in situations where he could

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<v Speaker 1>show his range and his ball handling a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a really impressive athletic dunk and obviously he

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<v Speaker 1>made a name for himself defensively in his lone year

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas Tech. What have you been hearing about Sire

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and why he's been able to peak the interest

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<v Speaker 1>of teams. I mean, he's just a crazy athlete and

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<v Speaker 1>he just turned nineteen years old this month and he

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<v Speaker 1>made eighteen to forty three's. I know it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big sample size, but he can make outside shots, and

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<v Speaker 1>again we saw flashes of ball handling, flashes of passing,

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<v Speaker 1>and giving his age and the window he has to improve,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just a lot to like here. And he's also

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<v Speaker 1>one of those self made guys, wasn't highly recruited. If

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to him, listen to him, he's very humble,

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<v Speaker 1>not some he who expected to be here. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>really worked for everything he's gotten, and not one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys who just thinks he's got starred him coming

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<v Speaker 1>for him, Like the way you listen to DeAndre Ayton speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's called himself Shack and Devin Booker as

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<v Speaker 1>the next Kobe. This is the complete opposite type of mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's one of those guys where if you

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<v Speaker 1>put him in the right situation, he's gonna look like

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<v Speaker 1>a steel However, if you put him in a bad

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<v Speaker 1>situation because he has still limited skill wise, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you put him on a team like Sacramento. I worry

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<v Speaker 1>about his development. I think he needs to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a place that already has star players. He can play

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<v Speaker 1>with strengths early as a cutter, as a defensive player,

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<v Speaker 1>as an energy guy, and then let his confidence and

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<v Speaker 1>skill build over time. Actually, I think Philly would be

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect fit for Smith. Number ten does seem high,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly given who else will be on the board. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's definitely somebody worth looking at if you're Philly. He

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<v Speaker 1>just seems real workman, like, you know, very much business

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<v Speaker 1>in his approach, no nonsense, has he been comped to anyone? Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of those guys who I think is expect

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he has he had any comparisons? You know, none

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<v Speaker 1>come off. None come off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to think really fast now, I can't think of anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I could just think it the type he is, the

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<v Speaker 1>type of player. He's just one of those guys who

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<v Speaker 1>can who can make an impact without having his number

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<v Speaker 1>called once. You know, just go out there and make

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<v Speaker 1>players off the ball, you know, don't take too many dribbles.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a niche out there for players like that,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if you can land on a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>other players, other playmakers and scores around you. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>the eye test passed for something. In the two appearances

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<v Speaker 1>he had with the Sixers the last two weeks, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he was doing some good things. Who were

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<v Speaker 1>some players that you feel could be around at number

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six? Should the Sixers hold onto that second slot

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<v Speaker 1>that they own in the second round, I beg your

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<v Speaker 1>part in the first round, Yeah, Kyrie Thomas from Crayton,

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<v Speaker 1>I think would make sense, particularly if the Sixers think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna lose JJ and Bell Nelly Kyra Thomas, as

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<v Speaker 1>you're a prototypical three D off guard over thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent from three and three straight years, two time Big

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<v Speaker 1>East Defensive Player of the Year. Doesn't need touches to

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<v Speaker 1>be effective. It doesn't need dribbles, I should say, to

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<v Speaker 1>be effective. Jacob Evans from Cincinnati another similar versatile guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's not really a score but a very good passer,

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<v Speaker 1>a very good or at least I should say, a

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<v Speaker 1>very competent shooter and a guy who can guard a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of positions. So I think he falls under that

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<v Speaker 1>same umbrella. You know, Mitchell Robinson's going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an upside pick. You know, Philly has two picks.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes with the second pick, he might be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>gamble on upside, and he certainly has plenty of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so he'd be an intriguing option. And how about Grace Nowen.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Nowen's hit over eighty threes and three straight seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big time athlete. I think he's showing an interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>at least from what I've heard, that he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>passed the immaturity and he's kind of learned from him

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<v Speaker 1>his miss stakes. He had a setback for a year

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<v Speaker 1>off the floor. This season, everyone seems to like him

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<v Speaker 1>outside of you know, the Duke crowds. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna I think he's gonna be a surprise player,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly again if he lands in the right situation where

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<v Speaker 1>he could play it with strengths as a shotmaker in

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<v Speaker 1>a transition weapon Kevin Hurder, Do you think his injury

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<v Speaker 1>news will effect or he goes much? No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a hand injury. It's not gonna linger.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all know that he can really shoot

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<v Speaker 1>lights out, and I think as teams kind of saw

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<v Speaker 1>that he stood at it the combine, they'll go back

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<v Speaker 1>and look at the tape and realize, Man, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>average three and a half assists. He can put the

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<v Speaker 1>ball on the floor and make things happen. He can

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<v Speaker 1>create shots for himself. He's pretty confident with the step

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<v Speaker 1>back and the pull up from deep high IQ player,

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<v Speaker 1>high IQ defender. Obviously, his arms, you know, are not

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<v Speaker 1>very impressive physically. He needs to get the weight room.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's still very young. I think he's still nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and as the NBA size, and again, that

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<v Speaker 1>shooting stroke which every team likes, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to fit anywhere he goes. As we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap this up, we talked a bit about mcal Bridges

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<v Speaker 1>and how high he might be able to go, potentially

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<v Speaker 1>to the seventy six ers. What about two other names

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<v Speaker 1>from Villanova, We referenced Dante DiVincenzo, there's also Jalen Brunson.

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<v Speaker 1>How high do you think they could go in an

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<v Speaker 1>ideal situation in the first round. I think Devencenso goes

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty. Got an invite to the green room, and

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<v Speaker 1>history says if you get an invite to the end

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<v Speaker 1>green room, you're going to go in the range of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys invited there, and there are twenty guys invited.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he goes top twenty, and then Jalen Brunson

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<v Speaker 1>share he can go late first round. There's no reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are teams who certainly view him as

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<v Speaker 1>a potential backup point guard. I think sixers could look

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<v Speaker 1>at him at twenty six, they could look at him

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty eight and thirty nine if he's still there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd say Brunson goes anywhere in that twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty nine range. Yeah, I think both of them

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<v Speaker 1>are are legit NBA players generally speaking, Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>that distinguishes the quality of talent available in the second

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<v Speaker 1>round of the seventy six ers have four picks compared

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<v Speaker 1>to previous years. I mean there's listen, there's just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good players this year. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there are guys and I've said this before, there there

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<v Speaker 1>there could be a guy who's number forty on one

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<v Speaker 1>team's board and he's number twenty one another. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how any of these second round picks

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<v Speaker 1>that Philly keeps, particularly obviously fifty six in number sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they look to package together thirty eight, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and twenty six and move up. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>sit tight, they're going to come away with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys. And I'd imagine that at thirty eight thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be getting a lot of calls to

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<v Speaker 1>see if anybody can move up and take one of

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<v Speaker 1>their second round picks, kind of like Golden State did

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<v Speaker 1>last year with Chicago getting Jordan bell Man. You just

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<v Speaker 1>look down the list of second round names and there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot who could be on first round boards.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gonna throw a couple names that you're real quick

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<v Speaker 1>of guys who have been in with the sixers that

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<v Speaker 1>might find themselves available in the second round. Javon Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>the man of a defensive player out of West Virginia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan. It's one of those funny evaluations because

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<v Speaker 1>I have trouble putting in my first round. I also

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>have a ninety percent confidence level he's going to stick

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA for ten years. Just you know, undervalued

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>because of his age, because of his lack of athleticism.

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<v Speaker 1>But you put him on a second unit and ask

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<v Speaker 1>him to run the offense, make the easy passes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just pressure full court and give the opposing ball

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<v Speaker 1>handler hell. I think he clearly has an NBA career.

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<v Speaker 1>Shake Milton, where do you see him? I think Milton's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a mid second round guy. I question as

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<v Speaker 1>a ball handler his ability to create shots for teammates

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<v Speaker 1>at himself. Having said that he's six six, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>a very consistent three point shooter throughout his career. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got the potential to get low and defend. I put

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<v Speaker 1>him in the mid second round because I think as

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<v Speaker 1>a ball handler, you want to be able to blow

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<v Speaker 1>by guys and create, and I'm not sure he does

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<v Speaker 1>that particularly well. He had a really tough showing at

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA combine as well, didn't make a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>in the two games, but a very solid career, do SMU.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's worth a shot in the mid second round.

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<v Speaker 1>You're almost done. Two more names. I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>guy this time last year was very intriguing. Ultimately decided

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<v Speaker 1>to return to college this year, sticking in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Homadudiallo out of Kentucky. Yeah, d'allo. You know, a high risk,

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<v Speaker 1>high reward guy. Obviously one of the best athletes in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. The question is what does he do well offensively?

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't shoot well, he doesn't create well, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't very convincing defender. Having said that, put him in

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA team with NBA coaching, let him spend time

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<v Speaker 1>in the G League. He's still nineteen years old, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>so the window is not closed on him, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't teach the natural talent, which his first round caliber

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<v Speaker 1>that he has. So I think he's a very good

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<v Speaker 1>by low pick in the second round, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>about reaching for him in the first last, but not

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<v Speaker 1>least someone that fans in these parts have been asking

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<v Speaker 1>him about out of Roman Catholic High School and at

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State University, Tony Car Do you think he gets

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<v Speaker 1>his name called on draft night? I do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe in five to sixty range. He had

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<v Speaker 1>two CADI of a season. He had another guy who

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<v Speaker 1>had a really tough showing at the NBA Combine who

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<v Speaker 1>was guarded by Javon Carger. That didn't help him. But

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<v Speaker 1>six to five makes over two threes a game, average

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<v Speaker 1>twenty points, five assists. He's not a great athlete. He

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<v Speaker 1>struggles inside the arc under forty percent, which is usually

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<v Speaker 1>a red flag, but he can't nitpick in the late

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<v Speaker 1>second round, I think between his size his combo guard

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<v Speaker 1>potential is shooting, he's worth a pick that late. Jonathan Wasserman,

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<v Speaker 1>lead NBA scouts and raft writer for Blizer Report. Awesome

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as always, and thanks so much Man for making

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<v Speaker 1>the time at this busy stage of your calendar. Thanks Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated always. It's always always good to hear from John Washerman,

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<v Speaker 1>especially so close to the draft, someone who is steeped

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<v Speaker 1>in all things draft related year round, and the knowledge shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to John for taking the time to do the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening. Be sure to check out the

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<v Speaker 1>various Sixers social channels over the next day to find

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<v Speaker 1>out how you can stay connected with all things draft

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<v Speaker 1>related that we're covering leading up to the picks as

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<v Speaker 1>they begin to come down on a Thursday night. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you on Thursday with one final draft preview that

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<v Speaker 1>we got in the works so