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Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malamuno and Ala Locomotives.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Allow allow, Welcome back to another capt Brown

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Speaker 1: Girl Hour. Welcome back to local radio. This is and

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Speaker 1: this is Malamos. Look at a radio is where we

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Speaker 1: celebrate the legacies and geniuses of women and fems of color.

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Speaker 1: And we're back. Yes, you know, we're just moving right along.

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Speaker 1: I know. And the last cap was super cute. It

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Speaker 1: was so fun answering listener questions. Are locomotives sent in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. We answered twenty of them, and

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Speaker 1: we found out that a well of our locomotives have

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Speaker 1: little crushes on us and we're asking about dating and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And that was for me, that was the highlight. Was

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Speaker 1: really fun. The last episode was just it was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, like internal drama, internal gossip. I love it. Right,

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Speaker 1: So that makes me wonder, like would you ever date? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think that like, let's talk about this, right, because

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Speaker 1: I think that it would be wise to have like

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Speaker 1: a no dating listeners rule. I agree, but I think

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Speaker 1: that just like with all rules, there must be exceptions

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Speaker 1: to be sermon, let us see can you bend the rules?

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Speaker 1: Can can the rules be bent for you? I think

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Speaker 1: it's possible if the right one comes along. I completely

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Speaker 1: agree with you. But we have our standards. I had

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Speaker 1: no dating coworkers rule, and I ended up right co workers.

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Speaker 1: Now we are in a relationship, so there's exceptions most

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Speaker 1: every rule, right, healthy exceptions. I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a fun So thank you so

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Speaker 1: much everybody who submitted questions. We're gonna do more yes,

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Speaker 1: um listener questions. We're gonna bring in more questions. We

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Speaker 1: didn't bring in any for this episode today, but I

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Speaker 1: did see on the Curious Campy that y'all were still

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Speaker 1: sub many questions, So I'm really happy about that, and

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Speaker 1: we will answer some for the next absolutely. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: we just want to also do an update because we

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Speaker 1: have been getting a few emails from universities UM some

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Speaker 1: form of request and then some inquiries whatever that world, inquiries,

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Speaker 1: inquiries whatever, yes, yes, to bring us out to campus. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And we saw a pattern with some of the students

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Speaker 1: we just wanted to go over some of that because

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Speaker 1: we both worked in student affairs while we were in

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Speaker 1: doing so, Like, basically, this is kind of like I

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Speaker 1: breaking down how do you bring a speaker to your

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Speaker 1: go about it. Speakers, artists, visiting lectures, visiting performers, whoever. UM.

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Speaker 1: Usually there's something called an honorarium. Right, that is basically

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Speaker 1: like what they're being compensated for for their work. You're

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Speaker 1: universities colleges when they bring out some type of a

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Speaker 1: there's an honorarium set aside for that speaker for their work.

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Speaker 1: And then in addition to the honorarium, there is some

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Speaker 1: you know, transportation things like that. So, like back in

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Speaker 1: universities have a ton of money set aside specifically for

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Speaker 1: like student activities, for clubs, for for student organizations, for

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Speaker 1: And a lot of the times your student fees are

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Speaker 1: to bring a guest speaker exactly, So fucking bring women

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Speaker 1: of color, bring fams, being queer folks, bring disabled people exactly,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the best way to get your basically, it's

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Speaker 1: You know what a side chicken is because you've been one,

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Speaker 1: hate her, like death threats, shouting at her on the street, online,

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00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: difficulty with work opportunities, just like she is one of

426
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: those names that is always there's always vitriol like that follows.

427
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: And I think, and I don't really remember at the

428
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: time like this happening, but I do, like I can

429
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: say now, like the way she was slug shamed in

430
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: all of it, Where where was you know Bill Clinton? Right?

431
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: And like and then even like Hillary Clinton will like

432
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: when to you like frame it like very sexist, like

433
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: when she was running for president, not of course, not

434
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: in defense of her at all, but even like, oh,

435
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: she can't even keep her manage. There was a lot

436
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: of there was a lot of comments like that, like

437
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: she can't even maintain a marriage, and you want her

438
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: to run a country? Right, as if it was her

439
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: fault that her husband was with another one. She was

440
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: Hilary is responsible for the infidelity exactly, and Bill is

441
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: not responsible for anything at all, right, And Monica is

442
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: was responsible for being a slut, for being a little tart,

443
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: which is what she was called. And she was fat

444
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: shamed also because she was a bigger girl at the time.

445
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: And if you think about it, she was so young,

446
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: she was in her early twenties and she was working

447
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: as a White House aide. So what does that mean

448
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: when a man in power praise on a young woman.

449
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: That is rape culture. It is abused, It is an

450
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: imbalance of power, and there is nobody with more power

451
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: than the President of the United States. For the President

452
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: of the United States to pray on a twentysomething year

453
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: old staffer is rape culture and is abusive. But he really,

454
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: if we really think about it, Bill Clinton is still

455
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: very much loved. People like Bill Slick Willie like people.

456
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: And when men mistreat women, when men have affairs, when

457
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: men cheat, it's like their social status is actually upped.

458
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: There's kind of like a folk like a lore about them.

459
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Like people like that. People think it's very masculine, you know,

460
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: And so I think it actually does good for men

461
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: when they have mistresses in a crazy way, right, It's

462
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of like asserting their masculinity in a way. It's like, oh,

463
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: they can have multiple women, they can spread their seed.

464
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: I also think that men actually like it when they

465
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: see a public figure disrespect women, you know, like it's

466
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: points not only to have sexual conquests over women, but

467
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: to publicly disrespect or harm women actually gives men a

468
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: lot of cool points. We could talk about Chris Brown.

469
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: How has Chris Brown's career been affected after he tempted

470
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: to murder Rhianna And let's get let's be clear. You

471
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: saw those photos. He attempted to kill her. He didn't

472
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: just slap her, which is not to minimize but he

473
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: attempted to kill her, right, and he he's doing just

474
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: fine career life, even after he abused Caruci as well

475
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: in addition, so Monica has gotten the short of the

476
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: end of the stick. But I like you, Monica, I

477
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: love you girl. You know, Bill is a nasty old

478
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: man and he took advantage. And she is a famous

479
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: side chick who shall not be forgotten. And she's more

480
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: than a side. She's more than a side. She's more

481
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: than a side. Absolutely, m M, my heart, my love

482
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: for her, Monica for Monica, for like not And I

483
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: say this like obviously very this is a blanket statement,

484
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: but it's like, was she ever to really move past this?

485
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't know, I do not know her. I

486
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: would like to know you girl, Um, but when was

487
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: she able to have like a full life, like I

488
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: already said, like I wonder I know she did a

489
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: ted to recently about like the dangers of like bullying

490
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: essentially and like having this quote like reputation for doing

491
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: something right and not being able to move past that

492
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: ever ever, ever, literally ever, Like what does that mean?

493
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: A name change? Like what would you have to do?

494
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: It is also very interesting that she didn't change her name.

495
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was a power move, and like,

496
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: you know what fukali y'all for slut shaming? Me whatever,

497
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I respect it, I respect. I have a lot of

498
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: respect for Monica Lewinsky, and that's that I have. I

499
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for a lot of villainized

500
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: women in history. Same here because somewhere in there, and

501
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: this is where we bring in, Somewhere in there, when

502
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: that woman is being villainized and slut shame, that tells

503
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: me that that woman on some level is a survivor.

504
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: There's a survivor narrative there. Absolutely, if we can say

505
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton abused and took advantage of this young woman,

506
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: then we can say that she's a survivor, and this

507
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: is a survivor narrative exactly. And same with Amber Fry.

508
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: She was potentially going into the arms of this of

509
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: someone that would have murdered her had he not been caught. Absolutely,

510
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: absolutely survivor narratives. And again, like even like talking about folklore, right,

511
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: like you can talk about examples across culture. In almost

512
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: every like Latin American culture, there's some type of mythology

513
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: right about like how the that nation, how those people

514
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: came to be, right, and there's usually some type of

515
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: a female figure involved. We could talk about in the

516
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: United States, the idea of Pocahonas. The popular idea of

517
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Pocahonas is that she was a Native woman who was

518
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: like fraternizing with white colonists and helping them out and

519
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: showing them around. In real life, Pocahonas was a child.

520
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: She was a child who was taken, who was es

521
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted, who was kidnapped, who was used, was a survivor.

522
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: But the native woman, the woman of color, is framed

523
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: as the trader we could talk about in Mexico, which

524
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: we talked about in our first very first kind in

525
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: lookupistemologies are survivor narratives, right, So yeah, I mean it's

526
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: just like this continuous like thread when a woman is

527
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: being sledge shamed on that level and being blamed for

528
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship, I can guarantee you know, there's

529
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: a survivor history there, someone that was sludge shamed for

530
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: doing some albeit like shady things. I was also slut shamed,

531
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: but also thinking how I was in a very unhealthy relationship.

532
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: So how was I trying to get out of it?

533
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: How was I trying to finally set myself free? Not

534
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: in the best way, but in the only way that

535
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: I think I knew how or that I thought was

536
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: available to me. Right, So, always reframing things, especially when

537
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: it comes to women and sex and sex and who

538
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: else do we have on our list of famous side checks? Yeah,

539
00:31:53,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: so we have actually, right, poor Frida another one my heart? Yes,

540
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: so she as you all know, like, and I think

541
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: it's really interesting because I think because they're both artists,

542
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: but FRIDAO and Dio Riverda's relationship is very much romanticized,

543
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: very much, so it was very toxic, and we know

544
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: that it was an abusive relationship. And we know that

545
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: he had multiple side chicks, right or right, because there's

546
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: always the other side of the coin. You either are

547
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: the main. At one point you're the main, and then

548
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: at one point you're probably the side right one point

549
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: or another. Right. So, and also like, and I'm thinking

550
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: more of like the movie interpretation of Frida, right, and

551
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: how that I was married, right and even though she

552
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: didn't meet, she didn't fall in love with him maybe

553
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: when he was married, Like, was she the side chick

554
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: in some way? At some point? Was there an emotional affair?

555
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I wonder was there like an artistic affair bonding over

556
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: their art together kinds? But she started out Yeah, on

557
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: the side, right or she yeah, right? So then she

558
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: married him and then had to deal with all these sides,

559
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: all these other women involved, right, and like also she

560
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: had her own affairs as well. So you know, I

561
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: want to celebrate that that she was able to, you know,

562
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: have many lovers, have many partners outside of her marriage,

563
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: maybe not because she wanted to, like intentionally or originally,

564
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: but ended up having like just you know what, He's

565
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: going to do what he wants, So why can't I

566
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: does that make sense? Like do you you know, like

567
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: we can both play this game. We can both do dirt.

568
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: It's not that difficult. Mm hmm. But where don't you say?

569
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: But so Diego did he not? Did he also sleep

570
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: with Frieda's sister? I was saying that, yeah he did.

571
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Diego was listen, Diego Rivera was a fun boy to

572
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: end all boys. He was as our most men in history,

573
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: as are most of our cultural heroes for men that

574
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: are celebrated boys. Anyways, we'll talk about that later, will

575
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: slander them later, right, So, I mean, I think the

576
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: first three that we talked about, like we really really

577
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: wanted to complicate them, complicate their stories, talk about them

578
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: in a survivor lens, because that is what local radio

579
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: is about, right, always thinking, always maybe reconstructing survivor narratives.

580
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Um so. And then we also just want to talk

581
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: about just point blank famous side chicks, right, Angelina and Jolie,

582
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: O God and famous, real famous. Right. So I'm sure

583
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: y'all know she was recently divorced Brad Pitts prior he

584
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: was married to my favor, Jennifer Aniston. I love her,

585
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: love Jennifer Aniston. She feels like to me, like just

586
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: like your neighbor. You know, she's super, She's like the girl,

587
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: She's the girl next door in the sweetest way. Anyway,

588
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: he was married to her soon when they were filming Angelina,

589
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: Jolie and Brad pitt when they were filming Mr. And

590
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: Mrs Smith. They fell in love while he was still

591
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: married to her, while he was still married, and it

592
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: was a scandal. I remember, we have so many memories

593
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: tied to famous sides ships. I think maybe we can't

594
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: recall all of them now. But it's pop culture. Absolutely,

595
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: we love pop culture. We love it like whether or

596
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: not you like it, it informs your life, whether or

597
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: not you're you like like to read the gossip magazines.

598
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: The gossip is still there, watch t MZ, whatever it.

599
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: There's a market for it. Informs your life, whether you

600
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: like it or not. And I love it. I love it. Yeah,

601
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: it's a guilty pleasure of mind or not so guilty.

602
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: I just like it. I just like it, you know what.

603
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: I like it anyway. And Angelina is like another one

604
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: like Camilla Parker, you know, stayed, stayed through it, married him,

605
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: had a trillion kids and adopted all these kids with

606
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Brad and now they're Splitsville. And this brings us to

607
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: write this idea which didn't happen in this case. But

608
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: there's also this idea out there that like, you lose

609
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: him the way that you got him, right, So that's like,

610
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: I guess the risk you run, the risk that you

611
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: run by being the side chick when you're the side

612
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: chick and then become the primary right when you and

613
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: then become La Nica? Are you really? Law Nika? Are

614
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: you really? Because they're because there's the saying, right, once

615
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: a cheater, always a cheater, right, And so like me

616
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: with my situation right that I was talking about, um,

617
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: seeing this guy turns out that he has a girlfriend, blah,

618
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah blah. I experience right, like fake Instagram

619
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: prof She was making fake Instagram profiles about me and

620
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: calling me a slug and and I'm a suck everybody's

621
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: dick and all this ship. Yeah, okay, it was hilarious.

622
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: It was actually really funny. She had people calling me

623
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: on fake numbers. So for me, I'm a better person now,

624
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: I've evolved and I've changed. But at the time, I

625
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: was on some petty ship and I was like, you

626
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: know what, I think. I'm just going to keep him

627
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: if that's how you want to be, right, I'm gonna

628
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: show you basically, and I did, but that's always running

629
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: through your mind. I'm gonna lose him the way that

630
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: I got him. Once a cheater, always a cheater. How

631
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: do I trust him when this is probably the same

632
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: ship that he was telling her once upon a time,

633
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: exactly right? So yeah, basically, men are terrible. Men are terrible.

634
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: And no, I don't think you should assume that he's

635
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Speaker 1: going to change just for you. He won't. He won't.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to show me a man that did.

637
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Speaker 1: And I'll believe you. Crickets, crickets. I would like to

638
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Speaker 1: know also because like getting personal, my father was like

639
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Speaker 1: and like that I know of you know, there has

640
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Speaker 1: been no one that I know, you know what, right,

641
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Speaker 1: But I don't think he changed, you know no. I

642
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: mean now he's you know, older, so maybe it's like

643
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Speaker 1: down just like I don't think that man changed. If

644
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Speaker 1: my own father could not, would not did not change,

645
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Speaker 1: then who who please? Uh? And they're so bold to like,

646
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Speaker 1: oh my god. So I went to a Catholic school, right,

647
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: Catholic elementary school in Manavello. And in Monavello there's a

648
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Speaker 1: lot of like, um like like Latinos who are also

649
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Speaker 1: business owners and entrepreneurs. It's a very like middle class

650
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Speaker 1: like Latino like area Manavello. Right, So um, I like

651
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Speaker 1: to say, these people they had tortilla money. They were

652
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Speaker 1: tortilla people because they owned like tortilla factories. There was

653
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Speaker 1: one family that was like the tortilla chip people. They

654
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Speaker 1: had tortilla chip money. But these are the this was

655
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: the tortilla money, dying corn tortillas specifically. So this man Mexican.

656
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Speaker 1: Obviously he had his multiple women, He had multiple families, kids,

657
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: different kids with different women, don't you know. He had

658
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Speaker 1: all of his kids from all of the women all

659
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Speaker 1: enrolled at the same Catholic school see Ultimate Ultimate. They

660
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: would the mothers, they would go pick up each other's kids.

661
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes there would be fights, drama, drama, and like that's

662
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Speaker 1: the risk you also run dealing with the cheater. I

663
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Speaker 1: was about to say, it might be one of many

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Speaker 1: family want to deal with that kind of stres You know,

665
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of stress. I think it's one thing

666
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Speaker 1: when maybe you're it's just a it's an affair, it's

667
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Speaker 1: a fling. But if you fall in love, you get pregnant,

668
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Speaker 1: if you have a family, that's when it's drama. Think

669
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Speaker 1: about a lot of drama because I think also like thinking,

670
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Speaker 1: it's like we always want to protect women. We don't

671
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: want to shame women. So if you are the side chick,

672
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: like okay, cool, I'm not shaming you. But also we

673
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: want to protect each other. So that's also important. Regardless

674
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: of like the nature or of your relationship with this person.

675
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Speaker 1: Are you safe, are you being harmed or are you cool? Yes?

676
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Speaker 1: Are you making decisions for yourself or for him, or

677
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: for him or for the person? Right? Is it because

678
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: they're promising you the moon and the stars. Don't believe it.

679
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: They can't give that to you. They can They don't

680
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Speaker 1: have it, Ladies, none of these men have it. They're

681
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: all broke. I promise you that they don't have it,

682
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: and they can't provide you what they say they can.

683
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Don't believe them. It's a fucking line. Anyways, back to

684
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Speaker 1: our list of famous side chips. So we're going to

685
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Speaker 1: actually finish with one um the side chick Glorified, Glorified,

686
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: loved invigebrated Marilyn Monroe for four supposedly engaging in the

687
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: same behavior as who Monica Winsky, but it was never

688
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: like proven. It was assumed it was with the nature

689
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Speaker 1: of their relationship with John F. Kennedy. With John F. Kennedy,

690
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Speaker 1: the way she publicly saying Happy Birthday, a very very

691
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Speaker 1: sexy with it. Absolutely yeah. So, I mean the idea

692
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Speaker 1: of her sleeping with the president everybody, it's hot, right,

693
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Speaker 1: she was sleeping with amount of power. But we don't

694
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Speaker 1: we don't really know. We don't really know. But a

695
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Speaker 1: woman that actually did, it's shameful. He was married, right,

696
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: he's the president of the United States. Exactly what is that?

697
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Speaker 1: What is that hypocrisy? It's virgin Horn's economy is that

698
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say it is who's the virgin? Well,

699
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: Marilyn necessarily isn't the virgin. But it's like, can she

700
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Speaker 1: really be the bad? Can she really be the myla?

701
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: If it's not proven? I see what you're saying, you

702
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So Monica is actually the boot,

703
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: that she's actually the whore? There there was video, right,

704
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: So Marilyn, even though I don't think anybody would say like,

705
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: oh she was the good one, she technically wasn't caught.

706
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: So can she really have the role of the whore? Good?

707
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: Good point? This is true, just a question. I'm using it.

708
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, thinking aloud, like process, it's like evidence space, right,

709
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: It's like we have we have evidence, so now we

710
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: can just drag you through the mud. We can put

711
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: this scarlet letter on you, just like hester print scarlet letter.

712
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, there's a mark, but is now a

713
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: mark that has been left? Right? And also I think

714
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Speaker 1: maybe the nature of just you know, Marilyn Monroe dying right,

715
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: supposedly being murdered, possibly, like so can you really like

716
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: dag her through the mud hate on her when she's right?

717
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: When she died the way that she died exactly. This

718
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: is true, So I have questions. There's a lot to

719
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Speaker 1: impact their affairs with presidents hot or not. I can't tell.

720
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean Olivia Pope, history, Olivia Pope even fictional. But

721
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: I love Olivia Pope. I do not like please girl,

722
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: don't stay with fits like hate's so abusive, but it

723
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: is sexy, it is fat right, Yeah, but you know.

724
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: And cheese Man had tweeted not too long ago that

725
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: the real star of Scandal is Mellie. Millie is. Yeah,

726
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: I could see that she has some great monologe. She

727
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: does have some great moments. She does. There are times

728
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: when I hate her, and there are times where I'm

729
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: just like, yes, girl, yeah, I'm a fan for you.

730
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I agree. I like Millie. Yeah, I feel for her,

731
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: I really do. There are times when honestly, Olivia gets

732
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: on my nerves. Same like stop it. But also she's Olivia.

733
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Speaker 1: We stand for her. So I think, like, so we're

734
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: wrapping up, and I think as always, like we already

735
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: touched on the take, we want to take away to

736
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: be have agency, always, agency of your body, over who

737
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: you get into a relationship with, over if you leave

738
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: or not. That should be a to you. That should

739
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: be up to you and not up to anybody else.

740
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: You know, as long as you are safe, you're not

741
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: hurting yourself for others, like you know, do you? And

742
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of like, um, there's

743
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: always a lot of discussion about this whole idea of well,

744
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: if I'm not the one in the relationship, I'm not cheating,

745
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything right right, like women like sleeping

746
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: with married men and things like that. It's like, well,

747
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: he's the one that's married, he took vows, not me right, right.

748
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: So I think that there's also a lot just there

749
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: to like just it's complic worked through, but regardless of

750
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: what your situation is, we want you to be okay,

751
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: be safe all the time, like if because I'm I

752
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: mean even MoMA, and I was telling MoMA, like I'm

753
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: sure that there are women out there that enjoy not

754
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: having to be in a relationship with a man, but

755
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: getting to enjoy the perks of it, maybe the gifts,

756
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: the dinners, the trips, but don't actually have to deal

757
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: with the emotional responsibility with maybe being the fucking homemaker

758
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: essentially that wives unfortunately can turn out to be and

759
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: the exactly. So she gets to have the fun side

760
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: of him or of them, right, gets to have the

761
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: trips and the dinners and all of that. Right, you're

762
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: nine to five and on the weekend and she's the weekend. Right,

763
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, Like, it's like if that's the situation

764
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: that you're in, and you're like, that's what you want? Fine, right,

765
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: Always like advocate for what you need and if you

766
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: want to get out, get out exactly. You're not stuck.

767
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: You shouldn't feel stuck ever. Ever, at any point in

768
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: your life. Do not feel like you're stuck in this

769
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: situation or you're forced to be with somebody or deal

770
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: with somebody, or forced to deal with somebody and being

771
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: a relationship on their terms. Right, the relationship it needs

772
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: to be just as much on your terms as anything else.

773
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to make those types of compromises. You

774
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: don't have to. You know, you can choose not to.

775
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: I agree with you, all right. I think I think

776
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: we're good. I think we're good. I think we had

777
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: our convo. So I'm always tweet on us, follow us Facebook,

778
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Speaker 1: I commage what did y'all think of our I g stories.

779
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: I did one two weeks ago about my coming out

780
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: story because there was multiple questions and I didn't get

781
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: to answer it. Just for the sake of time, Mala

782
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: did the ig story about university. Is that something that

783
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Speaker 1: y'all like? Tell us tell us, tell us, tell us,

784
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: because we'll probably do more. We're trying to do more

785
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: with our social media and like engage more, but we

786
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: just get so tired. We get tired. We're Yeah, we

787
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: were visited all of that, but yeah, thank you guys

788
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: so much. Look on mons for tuning in yet again

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Speaker 1: to another We love you so much. I hope you

790
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: liked this episode. Remember to use our hashtag Brown Real Hour,

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of hashtag Pick the ones that

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Speaker 1: you like best. I love when our when our when

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Speaker 1: our local mots tweet at us and they use the

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Speaker 1: hashtag look at what is Yes, that's like I love

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Speaker 1: reading the tweets. There's my favorite. The tweets are fun.

797
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Speaker 1: They're really fun because gifts can be involved. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot that can photos. I love said more questions to

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Speaker 1: radio You can find us that way. It's on our

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Speaker 1: Instagram as well. We hope you all have a good

802
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: have a great life. I have a good day, but

803
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. Be safe out there, basically out there.

804
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: Don't trust men, don't believe anything they say, and be well,

805
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: prosper Take selfies, Take lots of selfies to us. Tag

806
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: us in your selfie, in your selfies. If you want

807
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: to send us side chick stories, maybe we can read anonymously.

808
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: We will be posting anonymous side chick stories if you

809
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Speaker 1: would like to submit that. I love it. That's a

810
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: great idea, mana, send those, send those. I'm dying. I

811
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: know this is going to turn into something. Yes, let

812
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: us know. Like, but don't get us involved in your drama.

813
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: But like, I want to hear also from like maybe

814
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: folks that have discovered a side chick. Yes, because I've

815
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: had both. I've discovered a side chick and then I've

816
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: been the side chick. Let us know. Have you had

817
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: both experiences one or the other, Let us know, let

818
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Speaker 1: us know, all right, Thank you,