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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everyone, and welcome Inside with the Insiders, a

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Speaker 1: Monday podcast edition along with Ian Rappaport and Judy Batista.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Pellicero every Monday. This is how we

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Speaker 1: do the show. There's so many games to talk about.

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. However, you're joining us right now, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you being here. All right, A lot to unpack from Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but let's start out with a couple of key quarterback

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Speaker 1: injuries Ian, including the one that we saw with the

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders Jade and Daniels going into the medical tent.

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Speaker 1: It was an ugly looking play. Certainly seemed optimistic when

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Speaker 1: he came out and flashday thumbs up in his mother's direction.

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Speaker 1: But what do we know about Jade daniels status both

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Speaker 2: First of all, on the like flashing the thumbs up

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Speaker 2: to the mom, I know that like sort of seems

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Speaker 2: like not a big deal. But like that was the

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Speaker 2: first indication when Nick Bose had his injury. Even with

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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan being like, we think it's okay, we think

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Speaker 2: it's not torn the thumbs down to the family.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, oh yeah, it's bad. So this

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Speaker 2: My understanding is it is a Grade one hamstring strain

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Speaker 2: that puts his status up in the air for Monday

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Speaker 2: Night day to day is what I believe the team

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Speaker 3: So this means we essentially.

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Speaker 2: Don't unfortunately but don't know very much right now about

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Speaker 2: his status. It's gonna be no injury report until Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We're probably not gonna know until maybe even Saturday or Friday,

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Speaker 3: He can practice.

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Speaker 2: And I think, look, it's a possibility that Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 3: It's gonna depend on how he feels.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna depend on whether or not he can reinjure himself,

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna depend on whether or not j Daniels

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Speaker 1: To But hamstrings, as we know well Judy, you know,

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Speaker 1: reward that goes into these things. We've also seen Marcus Mariota,

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Speaker 4: And hamstrings, particularly for a player like him, are really important, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he moves and he is a weapon with

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Speaker 5: I mean they're going to have to go ahead in

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Speaker 3: No sorry, no, I was listening to what you're saying first.

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Speaker 4: Oh, but I mean it's going to come down to

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Speaker 5: You know, these are such complicated, such complicated.

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Speaker 2: Decisions, Judy, I didn't mean to cut you off. I

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say I was going to jump

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Speaker 3: Like actually an interesting football question too.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Panthers, who are red hot now three consecutive wins.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Andy Dalton is probably one of the best

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Speaker 5: Playing like Mac Jones is.

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Speaker 4: It gives you all the pushion you could possibly hope

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And as far as the Brace Young timeline, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Than a lot of people thought. The crazy thing, well,

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Speaker 2: One that it's week seven and we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: This is also why they wanted to bring Andy Dalton back,

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Speaker 1: up against the Bills. Did you mentioned the forty nine ers?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a we'll see what happens when

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Speaker 4: don't is it sustainable over the course of a seventeen

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Speaker 2: By the end, they were just they were just tired,

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Speaker 1: Or just don't miss the extra point with that multiple

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Speaker 1: about the Colts. For reasons that we have not talked

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Speaker 4: I want to admit that I'm one of those people

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Speaker 5: First of all, they are.

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Speaker 4: They might be the most balanced team in the league.

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Speaker 4: They've got this tremendous running attack. Daniel Jones does not

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Speaker 5: It's just remarkable.

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Speaker 4: I all credit to them and the work they've done

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Speaker 5: Of Daniel Jones. But he looks like an entirely different player, right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if that happens, if they are the

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Speaker 2: Second of all, everyone's going to pick them to lose.

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Speaker 3: This seems to be the good one. They're getting coached extremely.

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Speaker 2: Well, and like I asked a couple of people just

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Speaker 3: And most of the people I've talked to are kind

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, shouldn't short change the Colt Troster, the leader.

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Speaker 1: But right now six and one and going into a

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Speaker 5: Whatever?

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Speaker 1: This year? Really look, those first few games were rough,

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Speaker 1: especially offensively, but then you remember Javior Worthy gets hurt

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Speaker 1: in the first game on the first series, and he

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Speaker 1: was the centerpiece of the game plan. No where, she writes, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it turns out getting back two of the more dynamic

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Speaker 1: weapons in the NFL helps you out offensively, especially when Judy.

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Speaker 1: You've got the best quarterback that I've probably ever seen

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Speaker 1: in my life now.

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Speaker 4: Right, and he meeting Patrick was playing well all along, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's the leading rusher on the team, which

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Speaker 4: is crazy. But listen, the next time somebody at the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the season wants to write off the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: can we just remember like not to join in that corus,

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Speaker 4: Like it's just ridiculous, Like Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: will figure it out, especially when there are significant absences.

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Speaker 4: So now they've got two of the most dynamic playmakers

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Speaker 4: on the team back on the roster.

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Speaker 5: Kelsey looks good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kelsey looks rejuvenated, rejuvenated.

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Speaker 1: Right that album came out and everything changed.

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Speaker 2: It was a very upbeat album.

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Speaker 5: He looks really good.

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Speaker 4: And Mahomes looks I mean, he's just Patrick Mahomes. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: they are not dead. As a matter of fact, they are.

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Speaker 4: If you're in the a f C. I think you're

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Speaker 4: probably looking over your shoulder and saying like they're gaining honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know them sort of treading

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Speaker 2: water and waiting for the cavalry to come back. You

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Speaker 2: know that that has proved to be something like it's

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Speaker 2: almost like they knew what they're talking about. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the other thing I would sort of argue is like

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Speaker 2: going through this stuff, oh interesting to going to take

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Speaker 2: all the first team snaps from the Dolphins this week,

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Speaker 2: which sort of eliminates that question, but I'm sure there'll

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Speaker 2: still be questions more on that. I'm sure in a

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Speaker 2: second with our good friend Cam, But I feel like

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs having being forced to throw to guys that

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Speaker 2: are not their best players for a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: has really, in the same way that Jackson Dart's going

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Speaker 2: to benefit from not having the league neighbors, forces everyone

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Speaker 2: just go back to basics and find the open guy

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Speaker 2: and forces everyone else to play well, and I think

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Speaker 2: will benefit them in the long run. But yes, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the culture obviously good. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: so until they stopped being the Chiefs, I think they're

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Speaker 2: still going to be the Chiefs real quick too.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles Vikings game yesterday, which probably went roughly If

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Speaker 1: you were guessing what the Carson Wentz attempted revenge game

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Speaker 1: would look like, it would probably be some good bunch

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Speaker 1: of missed opportunities and a damaging pick six like that

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Speaker 1: probably would have been kind of the Bengo card that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people would have predicted. Here Onz has

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Speaker 1: played pretty well. The Eagles, at least the passing attack

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Speaker 1: got back on track. The running game kind of remains

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Speaker 1: still stops and starts seeing but now the Eagles get

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Speaker 1: potentially it sounds like it's happening. Brandon Graham back in

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Speaker 1: the mix, which is really interesting. Forget the defense, just

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Speaker 1: from a cultural perspective, that seems like a significant moment

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Speaker 1: for Philly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we had a story that we post on

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Speaker 2: NFL dot com and in that in this part penned

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Speaker 2: by our good friend Mike Garrifolo, points out the which

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Speaker 2: what is it like the ambassadorship that Brandon Graham also

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Speaker 2: holds in that locker room, Like definitely is the dude

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Speaker 2: to make sure.

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Speaker 3: That everyone's on the same page.

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Speaker 2: And by everyone, I just me and aj Brown and

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and maybe Saquon two, all of them who

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Speaker 2: did or did not take part in an alleged team

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Speaker 2: meeting that may or may not have happened in the

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Speaker 2: parking lot for many many hours.

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Speaker 3: Just because it's in a park that it doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: it's not a team meeting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't from yeah, whether whether or not one

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Speaker 2: recalls or one does not.

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Speaker 3: So I think Brandon Graham will give him some help

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Speaker 3: on the edge.

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Speaker 2: Eagles could still use some corner help and maybe some

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Speaker 2: more edge help. But like Brandon Graham is a guy

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Speaker 2: that you know, if you believe in locker room togetherness.

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Speaker 3: And you believe in the leadership, and you believe.

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Speaker 2: That it's not just a random collection of players playing

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Speaker 2: on a field and making individual plays, I think he

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Speaker 2: is going to help immensely. And the fact that Howie

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Speaker 2: Roseman and the Eagles brass know it and see it

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Speaker 2: and you know, enacted all of this, even though it

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Speaker 2: sort of a little bit admits that maybe the roster

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Speaker 2: didn't have everything they thought.

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Speaker 3: I think this is really really going to help them.

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Speaker 4: He's a glue guy, right, That's what He's a glue guy,

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Speaker 4: and that it feels like that's what that team needs.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 4: They've got tons of talent, tons of talent, especially on

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Speaker 4: the offense.

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Speaker 5: But they need yeah, they need they need more of this.

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Speaker 5: They haven't had much of that and they need that.

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Speaker 5: And he can do that.

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Speaker 1: And Mike brought it up. I remember after the Week

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Speaker 1: one game that you know, when Jalen Carter spits on

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and gets thrown out. It was normally that's

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham's job. He walks around talkings back to the

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Speaker 1: other team. Now brand Graham can actually go back to

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Speaker 1: being that guy.

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Speaker 2: Instead of doing it on TV and showing up with

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Speaker 2: hats that he's not allowed to wear.

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Speaker 3: And Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 1: There is that vikings on a short week. Their quarterback

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Speaker 1: situation still up in the air. Seems like it's probably

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz against There's just not a lot of reps

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Speaker 1: out there for JJ McCarthy. We'll talk a lot more

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Speaker 1: about everything else around the NFL. You're listening to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is a two parter every Monday, so go over

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Speaker 1: to part two to pick this up. If you are

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Speaker 1: on YouTube or watching the Fast Channel, stick around Cam

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Speaker 1: the Wolf will be with us talk about the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Panthers again, plus the Jets quarterback

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Speaker 1: situation that seems to keep getting weirder like a Parsons

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Speaker 1: Big Day, a whole lot more for Ian Judy. I'm

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Speaker 1: Toasia then,