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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: How did you get involved in dealing with these spiritual

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Speaker 1: issues we're going to talk about tonight. How did this

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Speaker 1: happen for you? What? George? I started astre projecting when

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Speaker 1: I was three three years old. Wow, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what it was. I just know that at certain times,

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Speaker 1: I'd go to bed and I'd be lying there, you know,

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Speaker 1: waiting to go to sleep, and I'd feel this buzzing

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Speaker 1: vibration come over me and then I would float out

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Speaker 1: of my body and I could float through the wall.

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Speaker 1: And I learned how to get around the neighborhood. And

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Speaker 1: this was happening to me multiple times per night sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and so I got used to it, and I'd try

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Speaker 1: and tell my mother. I said, Mommy, I want to

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Speaker 1: did this and did that, and she just pat me

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Speaker 1: on the head, smile and give me a cookie. Nothing.

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Speaker 1: So I've never read or heard anything about this, so

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Speaker 1: I just didn't mention. I thought it was normal. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty dramatic. My first out of body experience, Robert was eleven,

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Speaker 1: and I too didn't know what was happening to me

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Speaker 1: until I went to the library and found a book

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Speaker 1: on Projections of the astral body by Sylvan Muldoon and

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Speaker 1: Heyward Carrington and realized, yeah, and it realized, Wow, this

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Speaker 1: is what happened to me. I was bouncing on the

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Speaker 1: ceiling looking down at my body, and then just when

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Speaker 1: I was beginning to realize what was going on, it

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Speaker 1: slammed me right back into my body again. But we

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Speaker 1: all astral project every night, don't we. Yes, everybody projects

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Speaker 1: every night, and this includes animals, dogs, cats, horses, every

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Speaker 1: living thing astral projects whenever they sleep, but very few

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Speaker 1: of us remember it. It seems to be something to

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Speaker 1: do with the age of the soul concerned. If a

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Speaker 1: human being, you know, we live multiple lives, and it

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Speaker 1: seems to be some of the souls may be older

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Speaker 1: or more well developed than others, and those people they

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Speaker 1: tend to remember their astral projections more easily, whereas most

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Speaker 1: other people you know, of course, we rarely remember them,

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Speaker 1: and if we do, there's so little information about astral

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Speaker 1: projection in our world today that if most people that

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Speaker 1: have these sort of things are terrified by what happens,

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Speaker 1: and they think they're under demonic attack, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of the cases people coming to me with demonic problems

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Speaker 1: and that. But the toime I investigated and talk about it,

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Speaker 1: it's obvious to me that they've been experiencing astro projection

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Speaker 1: related symptoms and there's no bad entities involved at all.

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Speaker 1: It's just their understanding is wrong. Absolutely. Why do we

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Speaker 1: astral project in the first place, Robert, what's the benefit?

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Speaker 1: I don't really know, George. I mean I know a

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Speaker 1: bit more than most people do about this because I've

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Speaker 1: explored it so much firsthand. But why we do it

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Speaker 1: is still a bit of a mystery. It is a

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Speaker 1: natural phenomena because in my experience after projection applies to

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Speaker 1: all living things as far as I know, even fish

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Speaker 1: astral project if they sleep. I mean often when I

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Speaker 1: have an astrol projection. I remember when my children, we

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Speaker 1: had six children, and when they were small, I would

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Speaker 1: astral project and all of my children would come with

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Speaker 1: me in the astral projection, bringing the dogs and the cats,

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Speaker 1: and I have just heard coming with me just like

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Speaker 1: they would in real life. If I went for a walk,

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Speaker 1: it was amazing. But the children, of course were dashing

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Speaker 1: around saying, Daddy, Daddy, I can fly. I can really

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Speaker 1: really it was awesome. I love it. Yeah. In the

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Speaker 1: book I read what Sylvan Muldoon and Hereward Carrington, they

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Speaker 1: talked about different levels of the astral plane, that there

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Speaker 1: were some levels you didn't want to stop out, you

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Speaker 1: just have to keep on going. Do you find that

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Speaker 1: to be the case. I think that I've read the

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Speaker 1: books in quit and you're talking about that's quite an

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Speaker 1: old one. But the there's a lot of religious thinking

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Speaker 1: involved in the earlier considerations of the astral plane, the

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Speaker 1: astril to mansion, and this includes the firm belief that

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Speaker 1: if anybody disturbed you or touched you while you were

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Speaker 1: astral projecting, your physical body would die on the spot.

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Speaker 1: It was lethal. Of course that's not true. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you have an actual projection and somebody wakes you up,

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Speaker 1: you'll wake up just like you would do from a

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Speaker 1: I don't really know. I mean, I could speculate that

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Speaker 1: we spend one third of our life dreaming, sleeping, and

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Speaker 1: of course actual projecting, and in some way this involves

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Speaker 1: us reconnecting with our roots, with our soul, with where

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Speaker 1: we came from. There was some reconnection there, like we

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Speaker 1: take a moment a breath to reconnect, download our experienced data,

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Speaker 1: and then we wake up here and continue a life.

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Speaker 1: It's something like that. Now with astral projection, before you

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Speaker 1: going to get that more likely if you get a

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Speaker 1: significant sleep deficit. Every time you relax, you'll get these

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Speaker 1: little shocks going through you, which is your astral body

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Speaker 1: trying to get out so that you can sleep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's part of the techniques we teach, which work

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Speaker 1: for some people, is to go to bed a little

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Speaker 1: bit half an hour early every night, and after a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks you'll find you'll have a nice little

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Speaker 1: sleep deficit which can aid you in astral projecting well.

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Speaker 1: With Robert Bruce, so we are talking about astral projection.

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Speaker 1: At the half we're going to start talking about psychic

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Speaker 1: attacks and how you can defend yourself. What is the

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Speaker 1: umbilical cord that we hear so much about an astral

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Speaker 1: projection that connects the physical body in the astral body. Robert,

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Speaker 1: that's called typically called the silver cord. And I first

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Speaker 1: saw that when I was a child, and always I

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, five six years of age,

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Speaker 1: and I'm exploring the pharma, and I come across it

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Speaker 1: a circumstance where I saw my physical body and I

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Speaker 1: saw this sparkling silver white cord about as thick as

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Speaker 1: my risk, coming from my naval area. And I looked

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Speaker 1: of my astral body as well, connecting me together. And

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Speaker 1: over the years I kept an eye out for that,

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Speaker 1: and I saw that many many times on myself and

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Speaker 1: will occasionally see it, and it's this is, of course,

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Speaker 1: what connects your astral body to your physical body. There

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Speaker 1: is something connecting as anyway. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: astral body is made out of. It is more like

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Speaker 1: a you could call it a thought projection or something

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Speaker 1: like that, but it is it has some substance to it.

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Speaker 1: And the silver chord is if you look closely at

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Speaker 1: the silver chord, it's like you know the static you

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Speaker 1: right right, it looks like that sparkles moving around in

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Speaker 1: Is that chord severed from your physical body? I think

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Speaker 1: it is. It is depending upon how you die, whether

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Speaker 1: But you know, when you die, that would be severed,

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Speaker 1: and you would be separated from your physical body, and

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Speaker 1: then you would begin the afterlife process. And what happens

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Speaker 1: is involved in the afterlife process because when your physical

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Speaker 1: physical body, and then that is what maintains you. Would

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Speaker 1: you go through the afterlife process, you're now living in

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Speaker 1: your astral body. Could the astral body Robert be one's soul?

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Speaker 1: I think it is, George, even though it is. If

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Speaker 1: you look at an astral body, I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: in the astral of two people in the astral you

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Speaker 1: look at each other and you look pretty much the

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Speaker 1: same or a clear violant see an actual projector, but

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Speaker 1: your soul is sexless. It's neither male nor female, and

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Speaker 1: it is usually ancient, and you may have lived hundreds

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Speaker 1: or thousands of lifetimes, and in between all these lifetimes

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Speaker 1: we completely forget everything, and our minds are like reset

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Speaker 1: rutual matted, ready for the new one. And it's obvious

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Speaker 1: why that would work, because if we didn't lose our memories,

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Speaker 1: it would great greatly interfere where we are alive. For example,

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Speaker 1: you still have memories of being a woman, they could

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Speaker 1: cause you problems and vice versa. What is the mind

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Speaker 1: split affect? Robert? The month split off is what happens

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Speaker 1: to be conscious while an astral projection is occurring. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people they try to have an aftral projection.

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Speaker 1: They go through various techniques of that and they get

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Speaker 1: just want to sleep. But what they don't realize that happened.

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Speaker 1: They've actually succeeded. When those symptoms have appeared, the astral

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Speaker 1: body shifted out, but they remain awake in their physical body.

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Speaker 1: still functioning that the astral body. The mind split effect

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Speaker 1: saying how are you feeling? And the person will say,

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Speaker 1: why do you say that joke about me? When you

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Speaker 1: shock because it's true. Yeah, yeah, I've done that, George.

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Speaker 1: And it's sometimes you can do it manually, which means

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Speaker 1: I'm intentionally I intend to do something like that, go

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Speaker 1: and check on something. But you also get like your

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Speaker 1: higher self also known as God, whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: and show you anything important that's happening around you, and

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Speaker 1: it has its own reasoning behind this. I remember once,

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Speaker 1: many many years ago, my ex wife Sally, without me knowing,

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Speaker 1: her new boyfriend. She ended up marrying her. Wow was

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Speaker 1: just met him? Love it funny. What are the Akashic records, Robert?

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Speaker 1: We hear so many stories about them? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it like the book of records of one's life. It's

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Speaker 1: related to that. The Akashic Records is a dimension. You

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Speaker 1: could say. It can also be perceived as a place

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Speaker 1: like if you are or an after projection. If you

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Speaker 1: have some idea there was a place where all records pass,

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Speaker 1: present and future are stored for humanity, then you would

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Speaker 1: clever oliance and psychics tune into that frequency, which is

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Speaker 1: the Akashic records, and that's where they get their information

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Speaker 1: It's just keep a clear mind about what you want

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