1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 3: Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ. Bucky back with you. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 4: Buck. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 3: How are we doing, man? 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 4: Man, I'm good. It's Friday. You know Friday is always 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 4: fun football Friday. So you've got high school games that 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 4: are taking place on Friday. You got the eve of 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 4: some of these great Saturday football games, and then you 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 4: know Sunday has a nice slate of games as well. 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: No doubt, there's a big championship game down here in 12 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: San Diego. We've got Lincoln High School versus Granted Hills 13 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: High School. I was hoping to go to it at 14 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: snap Dragon Stadium down there where San Diego State plays. 15 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Unfortunately it's a Saturday game and I am going to 16 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: be on the move to Green Bay for that Chargers contest. 17 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: But it's exciting. You love seeing these guys. You got 18 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: to see it last year first hands, these high school kids. 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: I get a chance to play in the championship atmosphere. 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 3: Nothing better. So we wish everybody luck out there. That's 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: listening if you're a high school coaching, A bunch of 22 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: high school coaches listening to the show. I hope you 23 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: guys are still going and wish you all the best 24 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: of luck. It's a fun weekend of football. 25 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: Man, is a great weekend of football. And look, I 26 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: just love it. And you know what I love about 27 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: this time of the year is like the appreciation that 28 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: we have for people that can orchestrate some of these 29 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 4: dramatic turnarounds, like some of these downtrodden programs that we've 30 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: seen not only high school but at the collegiate level. 31 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: How some of these have risen up and now they're 32 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: in the top twenty, top twenty five. They're making moves, 33 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: and so I love watching this time of year to 34 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: see if these teams can finish it off the right way. 35 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: Well, you lead me beautifully to our guest, We're going 36 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: to get things cranked up, get it started here. Jedfish 37 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: took over to University of Arizona three years ago and 38 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: it has been a steady build from when he first 39 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: got there to right now. They're in the top twenty five, 40 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: and even the losses have been nail biers. They have 41 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: been in every game. They are really really a competitive, tough, 42 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: physical football team. Coach Fish deserves a lot of credit. 43 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Somebody I got a chance to work with with the 44 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens many many, many, many many years ago, and 45 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: a good friend. So excited to bring him onto the 46 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: show and learn a bit about how this Arizona Wildcats 47 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: program has risen up and is in a very healthy spot. 48 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: Right now, here's our chat with Jetfish. 49 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: Coach. 50 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: You appreciate taking some time for us to say, first 51 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: of all, it's great to see you again. 52 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: Man. 53 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: I guess my first question. We'll get to the success 54 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: of the Wildcats and how you've turned this program around, 55 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: but my first question is when was the last time 56 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: you talked to coach billick Oh? 57 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Last week last year? It calls me after every game, really, yeah, 58 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: and I spoke. He came to our he came to 59 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: our spring clinic, He spent four days with our team. 60 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: He spoke to our players, he spoke to uh he 61 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: obviously did the clinic, but he was awesome and then 62 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: had spent time with our quarterbacks and it was great. 63 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: I love that. 64 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, coach the coach watching your program grow from afarest 65 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: as you've been there. The one thing I noticed you 66 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: have brought a lot of people in to kind of 67 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: talk to your team about winning and the process of 68 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: winning in a championship mindset and culture. And I just 69 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: admired the way that you've gone about this process. Where 70 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: did those ideas stem from? Was that something that you 71 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: always thought about if you ever took over a team 72 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: that I wanted to kind of impact and import all 73 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: this knowledge on these players so we could turn this 74 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: thing around. 75 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was one of those situations that 76 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I felt as if, like, if you have a chance 77 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: to use your connections or to your relationships, and you've 78 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: got to take advantage of that. These kids don't have 79 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: the type of access that some of us have had 80 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: throughout the years. And you know, a lot of times, 81 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: some of the decisions that I made at some of 82 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: the jobs that I got very lucky for some of 83 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: the guys that I worked for, and to be able 84 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: to bring those guys in has been huge. 85 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: Everybody that I've. 86 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Ever worked for has spoken to our team, you know, 87 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: from Coach Carroll to Coach Shanahan, to coach Kper, coach 88 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Billick to obviously coach Belichick's been here. I think he's 89 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: been in Tucson four times already since I've been the 90 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: head coach. Coach has been in Tucson twice. But on 91 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: top of that, it was important for us not just 92 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: to bring in football coaches or Howie Roseman or you know, 93 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: some of the gms that I'm close with, but it 94 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: was also important to bring in people in the real world. 95 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: We brought the Surgeon General to speak to our team 96 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: about COVID. We brought in, you know, chief Justice of 97 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the Courts to talk to them about their their rights. 98 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: I think it's important we do what we educate Wednesday 99 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: every week, and it's really about how can we educate 100 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: these kids and manners that they cannot learn about life. 101 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: Coach, you talk about all the different influences that you've had. 102 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: I just think about specifically being with you in Baltimore 103 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: and the emphasis there, you know, was always about speed, toughness, instincts. 104 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: And it looks like when I look at your program 105 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: at Arizona, I mean, is this was that part was 106 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: that part of the mindset, part of your background that 107 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: that helped you to this. But that's when I look 108 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: at your team, You've transformed into a fast, tough, instinctive team. 109 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been a you know, we we've talked. 110 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: We talk here, you know about we we say We 111 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: want to be the most physical, the most violent, the 112 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: most disciplined. And as we go ahead and do that, 113 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's how fast can you run to the ball, 114 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: how fast can you chase? 115 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: How many people can be around the ball at all times? 116 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: What type of discipline can we have in terms of 117 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: make you know, being right there but not going over 118 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: the line, And you know, discipline and work ethic, discipline 119 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: and doing things the right way over and over and 120 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think that those characteristics of Baltimore, those 121 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: are huge. That's what you look for when you recruit guys. 122 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: You know, do they have football instincts or not? 123 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: You know. 124 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean we we were doing a one on one 125 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: yesterday and Jaden, our quarter one of our you know, 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: one of our quarterbacks threw a back shoulder on a 127 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: corner route in the end. 128 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: Zone and the dB coach came up to me and 129 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: he said, was that designed? I said, no, those are 130 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: just football instincts. 131 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: When the corner over plays the corner route, I mean, 132 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: he's able to make that throw. And I think that's 133 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: what's gotten us to where we want to be is 134 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: we wanted to find guys with those instincts. 135 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: You know, coach. What's interesting to me is when I 136 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: went to college, I played for mag Ground in North Carolina. 137 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: He was one to ten before I got there, in 138 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 4: one of ten in my freshman year, so two and 139 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: twenty those first two years, and I just remember the 140 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: work that it took to kind of change the mindset 141 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 4: of a team in a program that had been losing 142 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: or did you have to work on the mentelliti of 143 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: the players that you inherited and the players that you 144 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: brought in to kind of share some of those losing 145 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: ways and they lose the intelity. 146 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was, it certainly has been that 147 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: type of adjustment. I mean with the program was zero 148 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: to twelve before we got here, losing seventy to seven 149 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: in the last game that they played, and then we 150 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: went one to eleven in our first year and then 151 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: signed the best recruiting class that they've ever had here. 152 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: And the point of that was we had to sell 153 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: We had to give confidence without evidence. We had to 154 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: sell something of the future and make them believe that 155 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: things were going to change. But what I appreciate more 156 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: than anybody is the fact that we had the amount 157 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: of people that believed it. And you have to If 158 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: you don't have belief, you have no chance to turn 159 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: this thing around. Because it was not in a good spot. 160 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: It was one in twenty three over a course of 161 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: a two year span, and you had to get the 162 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: everybody to say, why are we working this hard? Why 163 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: are we working this hard and not winning? Why are 164 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: we working Why is co coach making us do this 165 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: and do that? And all the different things that go 166 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: into changing a culture. You need to see the results. Well, 167 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: we kept telling them the results will come. You just 168 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: have to trust it. And trusting the process is obviously 169 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of people say it, but it's really 170 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: hard to do. And what I appreciate most about our 171 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: guys is we say, not load. You have to trust 172 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: the process, but you have to embrace the grind and 173 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: you know it's going to come together with both both things. 174 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: And I think our guys saw and are now reaping 175 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: some of the benefits. We've won four games in a row. 176 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: We're in a better position than we've been, but we're 177 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: still not where we want to be. 178 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: It's a different time in college football. Jed, you look 179 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: at you know, you talk about recruitment and the job 180 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: you guys have done there. Now, the next challenge is 181 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: retention as you bring in all these players. I was 182 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: talking to a mutual friend of ours last night and 183 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: he said he was at two different schools on visits 184 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: as a scout, and he said, both schools mentioned they 185 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: think they're getting the same transfer quarterback this next year. 186 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: Mind you, you guys are still you know, teams are so playing. 187 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: This quarterback is on a team right now in two 188 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: different schools have been going after him and think that 189 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: they're getting him. I mean, how do you balance this 190 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: between recruiting high school kids and you got to retain 191 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: your own guys. 192 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it has become a big challenge and 193 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: it's disappointing in a lot of ways. And I think 194 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: what needs to happen is the people that have left 195 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: your program. You need to look to see how they've done, 196 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: and you have to be honest with them. And you 197 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: have to be honest with guys that come into your 198 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: office and tell you. You know all I think out like, 199 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: why would you want to leave if you're good? You 200 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: want to leave if you're good because someone's offering you money. 201 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: That's the only reason why you would want to leave 202 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: if you're good and what happens is you don't know 203 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: what's going to happen next, you don't know where you're 204 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: going to go, you don't know what's going to look like, 205 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and next thing you know, you make a 206 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: decision for one year's worth of college money versus a 207 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: ten year NFL career. 208 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: Possibly. 209 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: Now, if you're good but not great, you're not really 210 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: a retention issue. You're going to be retained if you're 211 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: poor then and you know that's the evaluation issue. But 212 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: in the end, the guys that are coming, the quarterbacks 213 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: were referring to and all that other stuff, is someone's 214 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: going to try to offer him more money. And I 215 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: wish those kids just took a step back and said 216 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: for what one year? One year? You know, why are 217 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: they coming after me? Because I'm doing great here? So 218 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: how about do great again? And I've said this, I've said, 219 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, the unique part about us here at Arizona 220 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: is I coached in the NFL for fourteen years. So 221 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: when coaches, when college coaches tell you we're going to 222 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: help you get to the NFL, the real answer is, well, 223 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: how do you know? 224 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: How do you know? You know? 225 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: You've never sat in a draft room You've never talked 226 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: to scouts. You haven't been worker, had four years of 227 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: an Ozzie knew some draft room and listened to how 228 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: it went. You never went and worked with Bill Belichick 229 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: and talked about how you're going to evaluate a player 230 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: or less need, or you know, Charlie Casserly or all 231 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the different guys that you have the privilege of working with. 232 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Howie Roseman was my college roommate. Dave called 233 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: well now works for Alie. Dave was our GM in Jacksonville. 234 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: So when we talk to these kids, I keep telling them, like, 235 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: if you think going to another school and being less 236 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: productive is going to help you get drafted, you are 237 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: You're wrong. No matter what your uncle's telling you, no 238 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: matter what your cousin's telling you, You're wrong. 239 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 3: Have you ever used a spreadsheet? Have you ever liked 240 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: literally or a whiteboard and said, look, okay, let's just 241 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that this schools offering you X 242 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: amount of money. Look at the lifetime earnings of an 243 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: NFL contract. Why are you sacrificing all of this for this? 244 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: I do it all the time. 245 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but the problem is it's it's almost you're 246 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: just using logic, and it's too easy, you know, It's 247 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: like it's just a too easy conversation. If you're that 248 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: good here, if you're that good here, then you'll get drafted. 249 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: YEP. 250 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I promise you all thirty two scouts will come through Arizona. 251 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind we will have thirty 252 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: two eyes on you, plus plus plus, So be good, 253 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Be good. What are you gonna make a few hundred 254 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars somewhere half a million dollars, two undred and 255 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. I don't know the ridiculous money that people 256 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: are getting, dad, but that's nothing compared to what you're 257 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna make if you're actually good. 258 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: You know, if you're actually good, you can really make 259 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: like a lot of money. 260 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's so disturbing about it? Like going 261 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: down that route and I want to be the old 262 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: man on the loan, But I just think the collegiate 263 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: experience of being a four or five year player at 264 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: a spot, having the alumni based review you, and being 265 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: kind of a legend in your area. I think a 266 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: lot of kids are missing out on that experience in 267 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: terms of college. But as a coach, when we talk 268 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: about this new nil transfer portal era. How does it 269 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: change how hard you can coach young people? Does it 270 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: change do you have to treat them with kid gloves 271 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: or can you be the same coach that we've all 272 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: grown up around that could coach hard, could demand a 273 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: lot from you and not worry about the kid running 274 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: to the portal right away? 275 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's an awareness that you have to 276 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: have now that maybe we didn't have to have. 277 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think back so seven years ago. 278 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I was at Michigan and I was coaching the quarterbacks 279 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: and the wide receivers and pass game coordinator there for 280 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: harbaughn his first two years and Jim's fantastic, and we 281 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,239 Speaker 1: had one transfer in two years, and I think to myself, 282 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: you know, we brought Jake Rudock in. Jake Rudock was 283 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: our starting quarterback in twenty fifteen. He surpassed Wilton Spade 284 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: and Shane Morris and John and those guys that were there, 285 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and then he just he graduated after his year, and 286 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: then Wilt Spape became a quarterback. Nowadays, if you brought 287 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: in somebody from another school to comby your starter, you'll 288 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: have three guys going the portal and then they'll just 289 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: start chasing this next opportunity, and then you start saying 290 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: what happened, like it's okay to be developed, And I 291 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: think that you have to coach him honestly, and you 292 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: have to coach them hard to develop them. 293 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't. I just can't. 294 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't personally like to coach with kid gloves. You know, 295 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: it's kind of not been how I was raised in 296 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: this profession. Then anyone's caught Brian Billick miked up anytime soon, 297 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: guy named Bill Belichick. You know, Like, I'm not saying 298 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: that that's the you know, the only way, but that's 299 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of the way that I know. And so you know, 300 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: we don't coach with kid gloves, and yet we have 301 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: to try to, you know, have a great relationship with 302 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: the kids and build their trust. If you build their trust, 303 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: they won't leave you. If you don't build their trust, 304 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: then you can't coach amart and then they'll they'll try 305 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: to bail. 306 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: You've got so many different experiences, Jed over the years. 307 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: I just be curious. 308 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: You talk about learning from coaches, Are there two or 309 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: three players that you've learned the most from as a coach. 310 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I learned a ton from Cam Newton. 311 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean a ton. I was you know, why guys 312 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: Cam in July of COVID or June of COVID, as 313 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: I like to say, so, you. 314 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: Know, I had to try to teach him an offense 315 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: that I was still learning over FaceTime, you know. And 316 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: then Cam arrives. And Cam's original in regards to maybe 317 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: how he dresses or some of his personality. But when 318 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: you talk about the hardest working guy I've ever been 319 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: around in my life, it's Cam Newton. 320 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 321 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: His work ethic in the facility, what time he got there, 322 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: what time he left, how hard he learned work to 323 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: try to become the best quarterback you know, imagine following Brady, right, 324 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: he was the guy that followed Brady. What he did 325 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: was just incredible. And what I learned is that you 326 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: could be an absolute superstar. He was a mega superstar. Right, 327 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: He's not just a guy. He's a mega superstar that 328 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: came in in New England. And that guy he's drawn 329 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: why stick over and over to make sure he had 330 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: it exactly how you wanted it. He's and everything in between. 331 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: He's just phenomenal. And I would say the other guy 332 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: that I just learned a time from was Brandon Stokely. 333 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: When I was the wide receiver coach in Denver. 334 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: It was my first year as a position coach, and 335 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I had Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, Brandon Stokely, and Errol Jackson. 336 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: The first time. 337 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like here you go, jed, first year receiver coach, 338 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, here's your group, and. 339 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Cutler was our quarterback. 340 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: And you know, just Stokely was so good at managing 341 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: the personalities of the room and knowing exactly how as 342 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: the third receiver, he could make Brandon feel like the 343 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: absolute alpha. He could make Eddie Royal feel like, Hey, 344 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: you're a rookie, but I'm gonna help you get ninety 345 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: three catches because I'm going to teach you how to 346 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: run routes in a way. 347 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: You've never run them. 348 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: And then for me, I could go to Brandon about anything, Hey, Brandon, 349 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: how did coach Clyde teach you this? Hey, Brandet, tell 350 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: me the reality of if the nickel really trying to 351 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: jam me here, what. 352 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: Does it really look like? Rather than me just saying 353 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: run through the nickel and then just break out. You'll 354 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: be fine. 355 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, so I've learned a ton from those guys 356 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: and so many others along the way. 357 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: You know, Coach, I think is interesting you brought up 358 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Cam Newton because one of the things that we've seen, 359 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: not only on the collegiate level, but on the pro level, 360 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: the quarterback has changed in terms of how stylistically they 361 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: went from me in the traditional dropback pass that threw 362 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: from the grass, you know, to now there's these dynamic 363 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: athletes that do all kinds of stuff. How's it changed 364 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: your eye for quarterback when you're evaluating, and also how 365 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: has it changed how you teach quarterbacks who have the 366 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: aspirations of going to the next level. 367 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am so grateful that I had Cam before 368 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: I got back to college because you know, before that, 369 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I was with golf. Before that, I was you know, 370 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: with Josh Rosen. Before that, I was with like, you know, 371 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you needed some experience of being able to coach guys 372 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: that are throwing off platform. You were able to guys 373 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: that could create plays that weren't there. You had to 374 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: be more flexible and asking questions of like what did 375 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: you see there? Rather than just say it's one two three, 376 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: one two three whatever? 377 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: You want to coach it. 378 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: As and thank goodness for Kam because that is kind 379 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: of the new wave. The quarterback that has the ability 380 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: to make off schedule plays just as quickly as on schedule. 381 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: They have the ability to make throws that aren't your 382 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: traditional three one hitch, five one hitch, you know, second hitch, 383 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: go to the back, third hitch go you know, take 384 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: off and run, whatever it might be. And the extension 385 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: of place is what this game is all about. And 386 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I remember back in two thousand and five and six 387 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: and seven, we were talking about your best athletes are 388 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: your pass rushers. Right when you talk about guys over 389 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds, they're not your lignement. So 390 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: if you're going to have your pass rushers out there 391 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: and they're just getting better and better, you better have. 392 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: A quarterback that can do stuff outside the framework a place. 393 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: And that's why when I, you know, continue to develop, 394 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: recruit quarterbacks, and whatever it might be with quarterbacks in 395 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: my future, it's all going to be about guys that 396 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: can make plays outside of the perfect call. 397 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: That's fantastic, coach, You've been generous with your time. It's 398 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: great to catch up with you again. My last question, 399 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: I'll leave you with this one. I'm looking over your 400 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: shoulder and I see that cactus. Have you embraced the 401 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: culture enough that at the Fish household? Do we have 402 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: a cactie? 403 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: Is that what we call when we can't? We have 404 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: soorrows everywhere we have. I saw my wife at our 405 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: Christmas lights up yesterday. I got home right and next 406 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: to other they were like swarews lit up in green, 407 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is unbelievable. So yeah, we love 408 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: it here and it's been living out here in the desert. 409 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 2: It's been awesome. 410 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: That is fantastic. Two song Christmas. That's that sounds like 411 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: an album you guys could record here, no question. Hey, 412 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: it's been fun to know you as long as I have, 413 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: but to then see you just continue to progress and 414 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: just take every opportunity to make the absolute most of it. Man, 415 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: I'm so happy for you and proud of you and 416 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: wish you the best of luck. 417 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: Thanks. I appreciate it, guys. 418 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: Good to see you all right, Buck, great to catch 419 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: up with Jedfish. We're going to take a quick break 420 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: when we come back. We're going to We're going to 421 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 3: get into Bucky's Coach's Corner. The word of the week, 422 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: which this week is connectivity, So stay tuned. We'll get 423 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: to that right after this. 424 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 4: All right, DJ, We're going to go to Coach's Corner, 425 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 4: and this week I pick the word connectivity. Connectivity is 426 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: something that like is underrated, but it should be discussed 427 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: when it comes to the team building process. And when 428 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: af throughout the term connectivity, I'm actually talking about chemistry 429 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 4: and camaraderie, and that chemistry camaraderie is not only player 430 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: the player, but its player the coach and coach to coach. 431 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: The best teams that I've ever seen that I've ever 432 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: been around, they have this bond between everybody where everyone 433 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: feels included, Everybody feels like they are a very important 434 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: part of the team and that the role that they 435 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 4: are assigned is valuable and that you have an appreciation 436 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: for their role. But the only way that you can 437 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: gain and that appreciation for what everyone is doing the 438 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 4: team has to be connected. That connection has to come 439 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 4: not only through everyone doing the work that is expected, 440 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: but having real conversations. In times, I've used what we 441 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: talked about with John Gordon before Hero Hardship Highlight so 442 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 4: that you can understand everybody's backstory, because when you understand 443 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: someone's backstory, you can gain a greater appreciation for them. 444 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: And ultimately, yeah, everybody's a teammate and we're playing a 445 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: game together. But what you're really doing is you want 446 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: to do it out of love, and that love comes 447 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 4: from the grace of knowing someone's story, whether they've had 448 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: to overcome to get to this moment, so you can 449 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: appreciate them and know that, hey, whatever you're going through, 450 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna support you. Whatever I'm going through, you can 451 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 4: support me. And because we have the support, we can 452 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: go through this together. 453 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: I was jotting this down connectivity, and you talk about 454 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: being able to get to know your teammates and be 455 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: connected that way. I was thinking about how often that 456 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: translates from off the field on the field, and I 457 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: just wrote down two M words here, like if you 458 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: understood everyone's kind of mission, and then you understood their mindset, 459 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: like those two m's mission and mindset, and then you 460 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: learn about about that person off the field man that's 461 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: going to help you when you get on the field. 462 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: And then you start talking about connectivity, you start thinking 463 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: about communication, how you can't have connective. If you don't 464 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: have communication, you've got to talk. You got to be 465 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: able to talk when you're off the field. You got 466 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 3: to be able to communicate when you're on the sideline. 467 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: You got to be able to communicate when you're on 468 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: the field. And connectivity. How many times have we seen it? 469 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: How many times have we seen these talent laden rosters. 470 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: I look, I'm a Padre fan. I saw it this 471 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: last year. They have more talent anybody in the sport, 472 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: and they weren't connected and they didn't win anything. And 473 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: we saw what the email are those Laker teams when 474 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: Karl Malone and all those dudes came together and it 475 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: just didn't work. Gotta have connectivity, It doesn't The talent 476 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: is one thing, but if you're not connected, it doesn't 477 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: mean anything. 478 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: It really doesn't mean anything. Like you have to kind 479 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 4: of be all then together. And the communication piece is 480 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: important because you need the communication to hold everybodyccountable. You 481 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: cannot be connected if there's not a level of accountability, 482 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: and you have to have the commitment in those things. 483 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: But the communication allows you they have the connectivity. I've 484 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: been around teams where they talk about everyone has to 485 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: get off the mute, but you got to be able 486 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: to talk to one another. And in the age in 487 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: which we live, where everything is done by text message 488 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: or TikTok or all of these other social media platforms, 489 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: you have to look people in the eye and you 490 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: have to be able to communicate one on one. And 491 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: so if you can develop that level of connectivity that 492 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 4: stands from great communication within your team, has the potential 493 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: to accomplish anything that they want to accomplish. 494 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: So well, I mean, gosh, this would have happened towards 495 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: this would have the cell phone thing really exploded, probably after. 496 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: Your point career. 497 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 4: I'm just create rdit right right, yeah, like right in 498 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: the middle of like we had cell phones. Like I 499 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: remember ninety seven to ninety eight being in Kansas City. 500 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: That's where Sprint or MCI used to be, and so 501 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: I remember us getting the deal's grandfathered in on that 502 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: nice and yeah. 503 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, but I mean, if you're coaching a team, 504 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: if you're coaching a you know, oh gosh, it's high 505 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: school coach. I was going to say as a college coach, 506 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: but you can tell me just as a high school coach. 507 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: When you having team meetings, like do you collect the phones. 508 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: Every have to put their phone on the table, Like 509 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: what do you do with that to keep that distraction away. 510 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: It's so funny because kids don't even realize how addicted 511 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: they are to the fall. Like sometimes they're talking to 512 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 4: them in they're listing, but their head is down still 513 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: at the phone. You say, hey, yes, put the phones away, 514 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 4: and you have to do that. But here's the challenge 515 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: and the trick to think that you're going to completely 516 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: remove it from there and plug them. Yeah, yeah, you 517 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: can't do it. So what you have to do is, 518 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: I've learned you have to give them technology breaks. And 519 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: this is something that they do under pros. I remember 520 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: Jeff Fisher got laughed at when he talked about, hey, 521 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: we've done studies about every thirty to forty minutes. We 522 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: kind of got to let them get out the room, 523 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: let them go check their phone so they can re 524 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: lock in and do some of those things. And I 525 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: know there are some teams in the NFL. When you 526 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: walk in the doors, they kind of collect the phones 527 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: and then because it's such a distraction. But yeah, to 528 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: build a level of camaraderie and connectivity that you need, yeah, 529 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: you have to get out of the distraction of phones 530 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 4: and make people really talk, not only to talk, but 531 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: so they can fully listen and pay attention to what's 532 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: being said. 533 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is weird. I mean, I just we are 534 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: of the age where we lived, you know, in the 535 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: pre cell phone era and had a life before cell phones, 536 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: and then obviously cell phones dominate life today. And so 537 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 3: you have to remind yourself that these kids never had that. 538 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: This is all they've known is that phone just being 539 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: attached to them. But I think it does make connectivity 540 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: your word of the day here on Buckets Coach's Corner 541 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: a challenge. It's way harder now to be connected than 542 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: it was thirty years ago because. 543 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: Guys don't talk. So DJ think of it from playing 544 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: the sport. Let's think about on let's play basketball, right, 545 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: So in basketball, I wasn't a great basketball defender. I 546 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 4: didn't really care about playing defense. But let's just say, 547 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 4: if we're playing basketball, you always have to talk about hey, 548 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: help side, right, I'm here, I'm down or whatever. Yeah, 549 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: you now have to teach guys how to talk and 550 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: commutne dedicate on the field, on the hardwood, because they're 551 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: so used to sending messages to their buddies, what's up, 552 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 4: what we're doing? You know, like all that other stuff. 553 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: They don't talk to one another, So now encouraging them 554 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: to talk so they can be connected and play on 555 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 4: a string. Like my old high school basketball coach used 556 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: to say, that's where it comes from. The connectivity stands 557 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: from great communication. They're they're look, they're interrelated. You have 558 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: to have to have one, you have to have the other. 559 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: Like you got to be connected to be able to communicate. 560 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: That's one of the things too. I always you know, 561 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: I think people make a bigger deal out of it 562 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: than it is. Oh they've got a ping pong table 563 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: in their locker room, like they're not serious about football. 564 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you don't understand like that kind of 565 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: stuff that they put their phones down for twenty minutes 566 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: and actually, when you're playing pingbong, we're actually talking to 567 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: another human being. You're not sitting in the corner with 568 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: your headphones on, just staring at your phone. I would 569 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: love for the guys on the team to be doing that. Yeah, 570 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: you want them to play like that's some of the stuff. 571 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: And that's why some of that that stuff is encouraged. 572 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: That's why you put those things in the room to 573 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: make guys spend around. One of the things that happened 574 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: right after Antonio Pierce took over the Raiders as the 575 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: Internet coach, they put the basketball in the middle of 576 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: the locker room. Well, now you have Devanta Adams challenging teammates. 577 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: They're playing one on one. But when you play one 578 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: on one, there's conversation and banner that goes interaction other 579 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: interactions that are going on around it because people are saying, Oh, 580 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: I got DeVante, Oh go with the other guy, this 581 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: and that. Some of these things have to be manufactured 582 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: so you can create the communication that is needed to 583 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 3: have the connection. 584 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: No doubt. 585 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: That's a great word today, connectivity Bucky's word of the 586 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: day here on Bucky's Coach's Corner. All right, Buck, this 587 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: has been a fun one today. Appreciate Jed Fish for 588 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: joining us. I really did enjoy that conversation. We will 589 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: be back next week. Actually it will be. I was 590 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: going to say five episodes, but I caught myself there'll 591 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: be no episode. We're not recording an episode. Well, I 592 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: think we're gonna actually do Wednesday. 593 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 4: I take that back. 594 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: We might still have five episodes and the bill hop 595 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: on here. We have five episodes next week with Thanksgiving. 596 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: I can't remember. 597 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: Yes, we still have five episodes. 598 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: Thanks. 599 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so we do have five episodes, but one will 600 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: be pre recorded, so that will not be on Thanksgiving. 601 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: We'll record it on a Wednesday and roll it out 602 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: on a Thursday, so we'll have those for you next week. 603 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys hanging with us today and we'll 604 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: see you right here on Move the sticks.