WEBVTT - You Wear it Well… 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:11.280 you a Charlotte Mollie Mollie Rogers is here you guys? Yay. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:13.680 I have been dying to have Molly on since we 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:19.120 began this podcast. Mollie is the most special person that 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.319 you guys will meet, Okay, and she's been with us 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:26.320 since the very very beginning. I mean, not the pilot. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.520 Scratch that the almost very beginning. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.760 Right, the pilot someone else who went on to do 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.240 the Sopranos. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.400 No way, I didn't realize she went on to do 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:40.720 the Sopranos. 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.680 They were on the same floor with us, right, second floor, silver. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.720 Cup, right right, right, that's interesting. Well she did such 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.320 a fantastic job on the Sopranos, and tell her opposite 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.320 from the right, Well, that was meant to be then, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.680 that was meant to be for her, and she was lovely. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.040 She was lovely. It just wasn't exactly the right fit. Now, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.960 let's discuss. That's a good jumping off point to discuss. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.840 First of all, how did you come to be working 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.440 with the illustrious Pat Field at the time? Tell us 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.040 the background. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.400 Okay, it's a kind of I can do it in 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.800 a short way. Also, because I've told the story so 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.679 many times and Pat herself loves to. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.680 Watch me and listen to me tell it. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.960 I was living in London after I graduated from Carolina, 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.440 and I didn't know what I wanted to do. And 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.679 then I decided I needed to get out of England 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:39.959 because I wasn't really legal. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:41.800 I can find York. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:47.319 On Friday the thirteenth, nineteen eighty four, wow, and walked 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.360 into Pat's store, famous store on Meat Street, and she 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.279 was in there with a stylist, a French stylist named 0:01:55.280 --> 0:02:00.760 Mary Paul, and they were choosing rubber bracelets eighty four. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.800 Wow for Madonna, Oh my god, which of course we 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.560 all know Madonna's rubber blet bracelets exactly. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.200 And I walked up to Pat and I was wearing 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:11.400 a paper dress. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:17.720 Oh my boy, George dreadlocks. Wow. I asked her for a. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:24.440 Job, and that old we began our trek in styling 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.000 and being friends and working in her store led to 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:33.359 you know, that was huge. Eighty four was big TV videos. Sure, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.679 so we styled and that led to commercials and that 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.520 led to TV. You know, and just have known her 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.119 and been a friend of hers forever. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.400 And did you work on the film that she did 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.160 with Sir Jessica in Miami. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:47.960 No, I was. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.440 Down here at the same time doing a television show 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.200 called Moon Over Miami, So I didn't get to work 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.240 on that. And I was so jealous because I remember 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.720 the day that they were shooting something on the beach 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.000 with Naom Campbell. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.600 Oh. I was like, that's working with super model. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.959 I love it. So then, how how did you hear 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.120 about the pilot? The show, not the pilot, I guess 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.360 because I don't even think that we asked Pat to 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.919 do the pilot. No, right, right? 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:25.919 I remember, uh, Pat throwing some script at me and saying, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.160 read this, I think it's really interesting. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.840 No, I think did Candice have a book out? 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.200 Yeah, definitely the book Sex and the City. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:34.560 Yeah, I think. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.160 I think if that was at that time, I feel 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.360 like Pat had read the paperback and was like, this 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:41.960 is gonna be outrageous. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.640 Wow, smart Pat. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:49.200 And the first time we met, well, Pat went and talked. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.320 Pat took a Dominatrix book that I had to her 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:58.640 meeting with Darren Haa. I love show him pictures of 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.040 serious high heel and things. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:01.840 Wow. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.360 And it was very s and m I was like, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.560 you're gonna scare him off. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.960 But you didn't know Darren yet, right, So you didn't 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.720 really know Darren. Darren, I don't think he's that scarable. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.200 But I mean, I also think that is such a 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:20.600 good indication of kind of the interesting kind of mismatch 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.440 of television and Pat, which actually really benefited the show obviously. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:30.080 Absolutely, It's just so interesting because and when I often 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:34.840 think about the influences in those early years where you know, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.760 we just had no money and we were working on Saturdays, 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.960 and it was so crazy. I realized how much we 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.839 drew from being out all the time we went out. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.120 We were downtown people, right, and we saw those characters 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.160 and we were always big, high heeled, you know. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:59.120 It just it was a natural inspiration from just being social. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.359 Amazing, amazing. That's so interesting now, So to take me 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.599 back to coming to New York with Pat to do 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.520 the beginning of the series, when we got picked up 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:09.560 for the first season. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:15.440 Well, I don't know, I know you'll understand this, but 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:22.160 the first time we met Sarah Jessica was at Pat's apartment, 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.000 which was above the store on Eighth Street. It had 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:30.719 rubber floors that after parties she would like kind of 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.440 hose and that was sticky liquor or whatever. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.359 I'm sure don't want to know more. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.880 Let's show SJ just a few little ideas. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.400 So we had won Rebecca and Pat and I Rebecca 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.800 was Pat's girlfriend at the time, as you remember, Yes, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:53.360 I went to Aina, who had a consignment store in sohoh, yeah, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:54.960 and pulled a few things, which we. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.440 Still do for you. We still go there, all of 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:58.200 it so much. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:06.279 And we showed Sarah Jessica the fur coat. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:10.120 Oh you had it right then, Yeah, the clutch purse 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:14.120 which I believe she paired on the show with the 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:20.200 fur coat, and some little mules uh huh that were plastic. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.040 And I remember, uh, you know, I always I've kept 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.599 a diary all my life, and I remember writing in 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.480 my diary that Pat and Sarah Jessica were so excited 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:35.520 because they were going to not wear pantyhose. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.920 Aha. That was a major major point. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.080 I don't think people understand that. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.960 No, I don't think people remember that. Number One, you 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.760 always had to wear them previous, like like for me 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.920 in melrose Land and just Los Angeles in general, like 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.120 that was a normal thing. And obviously in South Carolina 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.360 where I grew up. I mean, of course you wore pantyhose, right, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.039 which is what we called them back then. And then 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.960 I remember Pat just like no, and she's being like, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.080 oh my god. And in the beginning when I'm rewatching, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.480 obviously I hadn't remembered a lot of this, but I've 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.640 got hoson a couple times, and I'm like, Pat must 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.000 have been so mad at me. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:18.120 So funny. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.360 I'm glad that you understand where that's coming from, because 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.840 it was kind of like not a requirement, but women 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.920 just wore it. And yeah, Pat, and so we just 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.680 we're talking about bear legs, bare legs, yep. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:34.160 Even Oh, I know, I remember those days. I remember 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.840 those cold days, which actually this episode that we're watching, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.240 which we don't have to talk about right now, but 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.960 it's one of those episodes where when you remember when 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.680 we would come back to work in February and it 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.000 would be like so cold, but we had to pretend 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.640 it was spring because that was when the show would 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.920 come on. And so we're in the Bare Legs and 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.320 we've got the either the fur episode episode that Pat 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.040 would try to get all of us in first, and 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.720 then the Light Code episode and then like the Lighter 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.560 Code episode, so you're watching it all unfold, and you 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.440 know how we cross board, right, So like when I 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.600 watched one oh five, there are leaves on the trees 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.120 and I'm thinking, oh, thank god, it's finally spring. Then 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.320 one o six there's no leaves on the trees, and 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.080 we look like we are freezing, like freezing, like I 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.480 feel like my teeth are chattering. Like one scene which 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.120 I very much remember, but it was always just a 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.800 tight rope walk and I remember pat like no nothing 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:23.680 on your legs and you. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:29.160 Just be like, no nothing, because it I remember something 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.880 I remember when I watch those episodes as well. I 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.360 see scenes on Madison Avenue or somewhere, and it just 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.760 looks like such a bitter spring day, yes at seven 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:42.800 am or something. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.840 Yes, yes, But also I feel like, you know, do 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:52.960 you remember the like was there? Did you all know 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.719 the extent to which you were changing how costume was 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.400 done on television? I mean we were on HBO, so 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.600 that was a little different, But did you know the 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.040 extent to which you were you know, paving new roads? 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:13.360 I mean, you know, I love telling that story. It's 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.800 a good example of what you're asking. I loved telling 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.480 there were little clues. I loved telling that story of 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.360 when an HBO executive came into the wardrobe room to 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:29.000 do a little rack review by themselves, Uh huh, looked 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.080 at these genes that were from Japan for Carrie and 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.640 she was like, no one is gonna understand these in Kansas. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:38.800 Kicked her out. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:45.199 Excellent, excellent. I mean also, like, were we making television 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.560 for Kansas and I didn't know it like that. I 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.160 don't know that we were trying to do that. But 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.440 then also, who would have they ever expected us to 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.920 have such wide success. We certainly did not expect that 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:54.480 in the beginning. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.560 True, And it wasn't until I want to say, the 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:06.680 third season that people started warming to us in the 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.720 fashion industry, because when you went into a showroom and 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.160 said we're working on a show called Sex in the City, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.160 they were like, what is it? 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.160 Porno? I know they didn't know. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:22.319 Right once he started watching it, you know, things started 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:23.319 coming in right. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.840 But for two whole seasons we didn't have that so much, right. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.320 So that's also interesting when I look back, because my 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:35.040 clothes are just really just weird. Okay, the first season, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.520 I'm just thinking what on earth? Which I know some 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.560 of it was that, you know, I didn't really understand 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.880 Pat right, and I was confused how I was going 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.120 to fit into Pat's vision. And I think Pat maybe 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.520 was figuring out her vision for Charlotte and it took 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.280 some time. But also you know that picture, it's one 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.439 of my favorite pictures of us. It's from first season, 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.720 which I didn't realize. We're on the street, I thought. 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.680 I think Craig Blankethorn, our amazing stephatographer, took it. We're 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.600 on the street. It's the middle of the night. We're 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.240 on like sixth Avenue, and I've got a leather coat on. 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.520 I think we've got like wool coats and turtlenecks, and 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.040 we're looking off in the distance. All four of us 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.120 look like we're in our own clothes in a way. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.600 You know, it's interesting. Oh my gosh, it's really interesting. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.480 I want to see that picture. Let's to blooming Dell's 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:30.960 because of our budget and Century twenty one amazing. I 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.840 want to ask you something I've always wondered. If you 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.319 remembered when all of you had your dressing rooms on 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:39.120 the stage. 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.760 Yes, of course I remember that you remember that, okay, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.480 I always wondered if. Of course, that was for many 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.240 many years, many many years at Silver Cup. What I 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.040 also remember is when we were out in the city, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.320 we were in I feel I could be wrong, but 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.000 I feel like we were in a triple banger, meaning Kim, 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.840 myself and Cynthia were in little sections. It was either 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.440 triple or double. And the reason I remember this is 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.760 because all of our clothes didn't fit because there's no 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.679 real proper closet and a double banger. So you know 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.520 how in the morning you would bring in all of 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.920 the outfits for the day and all the undergarments and everything, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.240 which was many pieces, and they would be hanging on 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.160 my microwave and stuff. So you had this tiny little 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.839 sofa and you'd be under your clothes that were hanging 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.400 above you, like trying to, you know, peek out or whatever. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.440 And they also had our names on the door. And 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.559 the reason that I remember that is because at one 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.199 point I was sitting there, you know, waiting as it is, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.920 and some guy comes banging on my door and I 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.240 open the door. I think it's an ad or whatever. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.360 It's just a person who wanted to know someone on 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.480 the crew was someone on the crew there and I 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.640 was like, I don't know what you're talking about, and 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.080 he was all mad at me, and I was like, dude, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.200 this before we had security. Obviously, we had nothing. We 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.559 were just hanging out there with our names on the door, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.079 you know, under our clothes. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.360 What is on your door now? 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:07.880 I think our initials. Yeah, I think it's something slightly mysterious, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.199 but we have our security, so it doesn't really matter. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.559 Right, that's a little safe, I know. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.000 It's it's it's funny to think of kind of the 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.040 naivete and the kind of innocence, you know, that we 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.120 had back then At different times. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.720 We were really under the radar. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.720 Look at the crowds that watch you all now. It's 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.679 really something. It's so special to have come along and 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.720 grown up with it. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.600 Yeah, I know, it's crazy to think about. That's part 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.200 of the reason I wanted to do the podcast is 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:44.480 that the journey has been incredible, and you know, we 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.680 share it with the fans, right because that they're part. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.840 They're part of the journey, and I wanted to bring 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.440 it all together and let them hear our experience of 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.000 it because it's so much fun to think back for 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.720 so long we've been together. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.480 I feel like a lot in my I don't know, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.040 maybe I'm I'm not sure sure, but I feel like 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.959 a lot of it is untold history. Like I saw 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:09.440 your clip on Instagram. You and Cynthia were talking about auditioning. Yep, bitch, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.200 I found fascinating. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:12.560 Thank you, thank you. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.920 I don't know if you've shared those stories from that 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.319 early with people. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.880 I don't think so, I mean, what's funny for us too, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.960 because obviously every person I've had Michael Patrick and I've 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.720 had sin On. Now I'm having you on, which is great. 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.080 I'm gonna have a Sarah On. Everyone has told me 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.560 things that I haven't known, which you know, We've spent 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.840 a lot of time together and I still don't know everything. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.200 So it's kind of fun and funny, you know. So 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.240 back to you. Let's get back to you. So you've 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.840 come to New York. You've walked into Pat store. How 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.800 incredibly smart of you. Number one? Number two? Now you 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.800 Pat said like, look at the script or look at 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.520 this book or whatever it is. And you're on the 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.920 show and no one knows the show. You guys are 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.440 asking to borrow clothes. People are like, what is it? 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.280 You're going to Bloomingdale's. You're going to Century twenty one, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.160 which I remember. You guys kind of lived at Century 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:57.720 twenty one. 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.120 Oh my god, people I worked there, I was there, 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.560 so they would ask me where are the belts? 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.560 And I'm sure you knew where every single belt was? 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:09.720 I did. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.080 I could have gone through that store blindfolded. I told Pat, 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.120 I've spent more time in Century twenty one that I 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.080 did in my entire life anywhere. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.880 I bet, I bet, and thankfully so, because, oh my god, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.280 how could you have ever done what you guys did 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.000 without having Century twenty one. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:32.120 People do not realize what a treasure trove it was. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.520 You know that little Vivian Westwood mini that had the 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.840 little white fluffle bottom behind. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:43.400 Yes, some century incredible, incredible, How could it not be there? 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.320 We loved going, we do. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.960 I know we did, and we in our minds we 0:15:48.000 --> 0:16:00.960 still do. Let me ask you this. So I remember 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.440 just myself going to New York, you know, somewhat wide eyed, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.280 thinking wow, I don't know how to dress like this. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.960 And you know, these women that this is kind of 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.840 based on are so incredibly fashionable, and they're in the 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.560 magazines as the best dressed, and you know, thank goodness, 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.200 sir Jessica knows about this, right and think good Sir 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.920 Jessica had her relationships with designers that she had already 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.080 been you know, engaged in before the show, and I 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.360 remember just thinking, gosh, I've got to do what she does. So, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.080 you know, like if someone eventually would invite us somewhere, 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.960 I would go and I would try to make relationships, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.440 especially with the people that fit me right, which wasn't 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.240 everyone I mean now right, So like Michael Core's you know, 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.960 the Ralph Lauren Oscar de Laurento, which took years, and 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.920 I was always scared, like I don't want to be 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.680 on Sergiska's turf, but you know, maybe could I possibly 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.240 wear an Oscar? And I finally got to. But you know, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.880 those things for me were very much just following her lead, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.000 you know, in terms of how do you make a relationship. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.359 Remember how we were so good about returning things, Like 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.560 we never asked, you know, not to return. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.200 We were terrified to keep something. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.720 Too long, right, we were terrified. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.240 I mean that evolved into we were such hoarders. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.040 In the end six it would I dare you to 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.000 come and pry this. 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:20.440 From our. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.240 And do you remember? This just came to my mind. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.520 Do you remember that time there was something? I mean, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.720 this is back when we really felt like we had 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.959 to be like on the forefront. We had to get 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.399 things like right off the runway, mostly for Sarah. I 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.840 don't know if that was so true for Charlotte. But 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.920 remember there was something that came off was at McQueen. 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.119 I think something that came off the runway and you 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.480 had sent an assistant to the show in London or 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.160 Paris wherever it was, and they had to stand there 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.800 waiting for it and fly back with it. Do you 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.680 remember this? I do, I do, insane. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.520 I don't remember what garment it was. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.840 I feel like it was a butterfly looking kind of 0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:59.880 you know, calf tanny thing. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.720 Yeah, that was from one of the movies where I 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:08.679 accident sent something returned something to a Vogue shoot that 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.800 was happening in Tuloom. And then I looked on the 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.680 one liner and saw, oh my god, she's got to 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.040 come out of the bathroom in that dress tomorrow. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.119 Wow. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:23.840 And Melfie said, stick a pa on a plane. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:24.919 It's very cheap. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.640 Go down to Tulum and steal that dress back because 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.400 I don't want to change the schedule. So we sent 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.879 them one and that little pa thought it was the 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.560 most glamorous thing she had ever done in her life. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.639 And she called me from the airport and said, I 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.879 have the dress, may I? Because it was turn around, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.080 you know, like you went came back. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.000 It was a rounding round, and she said, can I 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.879 please order of Margarita? 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:51.920 I hope you said yes. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.160 I said, please do, but stay in the airport. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.680 That's adorable. Okay, So let's go back in time, back 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.439 in time. What do you remember because when I'm so, 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.679 I'm rewatching, right, and as I'm rewatching, I'm just seeing 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.800 touches of what's coming fashion wise starting to enter the picture. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:10.560 Right. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.040 So, like Sarah in the episode before this one, she 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.080 goes she she is going out with that French guy 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.120 and he leaves her a thousand dollars after they've spent 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.280 the night together. Do you remember this? 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:21.640 Oh? 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:26.920 Yeah, right, And she's got some good dresses and I'm like, oh, 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.480 Pat and Molly are doing their magic, right, Like she 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.160 has this beautiful silver dress and she's walking down Madison 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.960 Avenue and she's talking about how she feels like she's 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.199 floating and she she lifts up off the sidewalk. Do 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.639 you remember this? No, literally, no one remembers this. I 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.159 texted her. She doesn't remember it either. I don't know 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.360 how we did it or why we did it exactly, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.000 but it's a great dress. And Cynthia remembered something that 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.920 maybe you had to double that dress. Remember how it 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.280 was always a bit of a drama for us to 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.639 have to double something, which is very normal in film 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.800 and TV. They didn't have to double her triple something, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.919 but for us because we had, you know, hopefully one 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.960 of a kind from vintage or one of a kind 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.119 fashion around. Like remember my product skirt. Pat told me 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.919 that I couldn't wear it to meet Trey because we 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.800 had to get five of them because I had to 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.120 fall in the street. And I was like, we will 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.280 wear it, we will wear it. She had to call, 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.000 you know, all of Europe to find enough product skirt, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.280 lipstick skirts, you know, for me to wear it, and 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:25.480 she did. God bless her. 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.840 That is so relatable to like the no pantyhose. 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:35.280 Like in television, you were supposed to be able, no 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:40.080 problem stunts. You could triple, quadruple something, and that was 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.520 the first kind of department. I think that came along 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.840 and said, I'm sorry, Charlotte's in a vintage thing and 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.960 you're gonna have to take do it once. 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:50.000 Right, like right. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:50.960 This was unheard of. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.440 It was unheard of, and sometimes people were very unhappy 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.359 with us because of it. But we felt like it 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.560