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Speaker 3: Odds to win the Super Bowl according to DraftKings this
Speaker 3: morning Eagles, then it's the Chiefs, then it's the Bills,
Speaker 3: and then it's the Commanders. You're going to get wishful predictions.
Speaker 3: I talk about wishful reporting. Sometimes we want something to
Speaker 3: happen because it makes our job easier. There's wishful predictions.
Speaker 3: I think you're going to find a lot of people
Speaker 3: who think the Commanders and the Bills are going to
Speaker 3: win this weekend. Now, I don't know if they really
Speaker 3: think they're going to win. They're hoping they win because
Speaker 3: we can be chiefed out. You're going to be eagled
Speaker 3: out too. But with Buffalo, you're like, all right, they
Speaker 3: finally did it. That was a nice reaction from.
Speaker 2: You, Marvin. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I was into it.
Speaker 2: You left your microphone on.
Speaker 4: Oh did you hit it?
Speaker 2: I liked its like.
Speaker 3: Church yeah, yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 4: Yes, going to the Catholic Church. It is a culture
Speaker 4: shock with you.
Speaker 2: We don't do that with your spirit. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 2: do the no at all.
Speaker 4: There's no amen, no hallelujah, no praise be to Jesus.
Speaker 4: So nothing, Okay, just sit here.
Speaker 5: Yes, wait, are you guys having a good time? And
Speaker 5: now you can shake hands?
Speaker 2: Here's the money basket. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, not a lot of joy I remember growing
Speaker 3: up and I said to my mom, like.
Speaker 2: Are we supposed to have fun? And she goes, no,
Speaker 2: we're in church.
Speaker 3: I go, well, but isn't a joyous isn't abration?
Speaker 2: She goes, no, you're in church. Like her answer was no,
Speaker 2: you're in church. I'm like okay.
Speaker 3: I then went to a church with a friend of mine.
Speaker 3: This is years ago, and they they had a great time.
Speaker 3: They had music, they you know, the guitar mass you know,
Speaker 3: they had they've had drums.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I could get into this.
Speaker 4: Yes, ma, yes, the musicians are professional, like legit. They
Speaker 4: get paid to play at church and it is serious.
Speaker 4: So the church that we went to with my wife,
Speaker 4: it was forty five minutes. Praise in worship where you
Speaker 4: just sing was an hour and ten minutes.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: I mean they were killing it too. That bas paid
Speaker 4: that bass player was on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went to a Mass one time or no, it
Speaker 3: was just a I guess it's not mass, it's just
Speaker 3: the service service, okay. And my wife said, hey, it's
Speaker 3: new Age. Are you open minded? I said yeah, anything
Speaker 3: that adds a little joy to this. I'd sit there
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, I'm gonna get yelled at. When
Speaker 3: I was a kid, went to church every single morning.
Speaker 3: When I was at school, every morning we went to church,
Speaker 3: had to get all dressed up. I remember just sitting
Speaker 3: there and then you go into the confessional like everything
Speaker 3: is damn. I'm in trouble already. I was born with
Speaker 3: a sin, Like how did this happen?
Speaker 2: Mom? What did I do? You're in church? I'd be like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm in church.
Speaker 3: So we go to this service and it is raucous,
Speaker 3: it is wild, and you know, even the sermon was great,
Speaker 3: like was it was entertaining, It had energy to it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, can't we sprinkle a little bit of
Speaker 3: that in to a Catholic Mass? Just give me a
Speaker 3: little bit? And then I remember when they broke out
Speaker 3: the guitars at my church, Shreadfast Saint Susanna had folk music.
Speaker 3: You know, I was waiting for Joan Biez and Bob
Speaker 3: Dylan to come in. He answer, my friend, oh that
Speaker 3: was a big deal. It's like we got a guitar. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're having fun, yes, Arvon.
Speaker 4: The only awkward part is when they try to get
Speaker 4: a little life in there. They clap on the one
Speaker 4: in the three started the two in the four, and
Speaker 4: it's like no, no, no, no, no no, don't stop clapping like that.
Speaker 4: My wife starts. I was like, you stop too.
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Speaker 2: Awesome breakdown right there, Tyler sitting by Eagles.
Speaker 5: Eagles, I'll get it back to football.
Speaker 2: But in the same.
Speaker 5: Run the bold home mighty.
Speaker 2: Dang yes, Mark what they so?
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, the church I went to
Speaker 4: during football season, they started service an hour earlier so
Speaker 4: the pastor could get home and watched the giant.
Speaker 2: Respect like that.
Speaker 4: Church would be over every single Sunday during the season
Speaker 4: at twelve thirty so he can get home and watch
Speaker 4: his giant.
Speaker 2: Why are we always late to church? Though?
Speaker 3: I never understood that. Always my family was always late
Speaker 3: to church, and we live about I don't know, three
Speaker 3: minutes away from the church, but somehow we would be late,
Speaker 3: or you get the people come in and they're they
Speaker 3: get it right, you know, for the homily, or they
Speaker 3: leave right after communion because those people have mastered it communion.
Speaker 3: You're walking back, walking back, not gonna go into.
Speaker 2: The pew sea. Yeah, but those are the people that
Speaker 2: also everybody noticed that, oh John left you.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's something that like my grandmother would have been
Speaker 5: all over that Sunday before dinner. I would have already
Speaker 5: gotten the call from my mom. Hey, my mom saw
Speaker 5: you leave church after communion.
Speaker 2: But yes, ud it seems it's like the box.
Speaker 6: If you're showing up late regularly and or leaving early,
Speaker 6: you want to do just enough so you don't.
Speaker 4: Go to hell.
Speaker 2: I technically was here. What if the minimum I.
Speaker 6: Can do to show my face and still be in
Speaker 6: good you know, good graces?
Speaker 2: Yeah Lord, yeah, yeah, you walk out right after communion.
Speaker 3: Plus when you have to turn around and you have
Speaker 3: to shake everybody's hand, like how far do you go
Speaker 3: down the road where you're going to shake everybody's hand?
Speaker 3: Like I like to just kind of acknowledge, like a yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, my wife is a oh oh, yes, peace.
Speaker 2: Be with Yes, yes you do the peace be with you?
Speaker 2: Head nod. Yes, that's big. Yeah, I did dap. I
Speaker 2: did dap. The other day.
Speaker 3: My wife goes, you should shake his hand. I go, nah,
Speaker 3: I don't think so on just a little dap. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: I wish you piece, but yeah, not so much. He
Speaker 3: I'll shake your hand, Yeah, I'll light them out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just a little dap.
Speaker 6: We've got to work in one of those complicated athlete
Speaker 6: handshakes that they do just to say, how hip there?
Speaker 2: All right? Poll question? What do we have today's seaton?
Speaker 5: Let's see, we got one here from I can't believe
Speaker 5: blank had become likable, Notre Dame commander's other.
Speaker 3: Okay, well commanders. I don't think we disliked the commanders,
Speaker 3: and we didn't care about them. They didn't care about him.
Speaker 3: You only cared about the owner. So you disliked an owner.
Speaker 3: You didn't care like they weren't on the radar to
Speaker 3: actually dislike.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Point, but the Daniel Snyder stink was all over that
Speaker 7: franchise the past two decades, and you felt bad for
Speaker 7: like Ron Rivera and the different quarterbacks, and it made
Speaker 7: you almost like you said, they're off the radar, but
Speaker 7: generally dislikable.
Speaker 2: It's so much so because of their owner.
Speaker 3: Well, nobody disliked the commanders because they didn't threaten you,
Speaker 3: they didn't bother you, like go Lee. They got to
Speaker 3: live with that guy. You know, if your owner is
Speaker 3: not a good guy in their winning, then that's different.
Speaker 3: But I look at the Commanders is like they didn't
Speaker 3: they didn't factor into my life. It was like, oh yeah, commanders, Okay,
Speaker 3: those uniforms are.
Speaker 2: Kind of nice. All right, who's their coach?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes see.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like there are some teams that you are,
Speaker 5: like you being people actively dislike.
Speaker 2: For sure. I know I have teams that I absolutely
Speaker 2: do not like.
Speaker 5: But then there's other teams that you're just sort of
Speaker 5: apathetic about, like whatever, Like the Raiders. For me, I'm
Speaker 5: kind of like, oh yeah, all right, let's see if
Speaker 5: they could figure it out or not. The Browns, all right,
Speaker 5: let's see if they could figure it out or not.
Speaker 5: I would put the Commanders in that scene things like,
Speaker 5: oh what, but now it looks like maybe they did
Speaker 5: figure it out.
Speaker 3: All right, great, But that's why people have wishful predictions
Speaker 3: this weekend. I think they're just hopeful that the Chiefs
Speaker 3: aren't back in the Super Bowl. I don't know if
Speaker 3: they really believe Buffalo can win. I mean, it's a
Speaker 3: two point spread, so we wouldn't be shocked if Buffalo won.
Speaker 3: I think there would still be an element of surprise
Speaker 3: if that. The Bills be KMP City in KANPS City.
Speaker 3: The Commanders, I think you're like, man, the Commanders are
Speaker 3: a good story. And here's something that came to me yesterday,
Speaker 3: and I hope this isn't a prediction of things to come,
Speaker 3: but I'm thinking about the Commanders making it all the
Speaker 3: way to the NFC title Game, and the comparison was
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Hawks making it to the Eastern Conference Finals
Speaker 3: to face Philadelphia when they had Treya. And of course,
Speaker 3: when you like you remember that it's one of those
Speaker 3: if you look at the Eastern Conference Finals in previous
Speaker 3: years and you go, oh, man, that's right, the Hawks
Speaker 3: made the Eastern Conference Finals. The Commanders feel that way,
Speaker 3: like they're not supposed to be here. At least it
Speaker 3: feels like they're a year early. And Atlanta was the
Speaker 3: same way. And then Atlanta disappeared. I hope that that's
Speaker 3: not the case with the Commanders. It's been a great
Speaker 3: story with Jaden Daniels, but I think the wishful would
Speaker 3: be nice to have somebody else in there. Philadelphia and
Speaker 3: Kansas City, and we've already seen that before, So I
Speaker 3: think you'll have people who will say, man, I'm rooting
Speaker 3: for pulling for prediction King Buffalo and Washington to make
Speaker 3: it into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Uh so that is that the poll? What other poll
Speaker 3: questions do we have? Because I don't think people hate
Speaker 3: the Commanders. I just don't think they like Dan Snyder.
Speaker 3: The Commanders are a lovable team. I think now or
Speaker 3: that that underdog feel to him, and we're fascinated by
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels. The other thing I thought of with Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 3: I can't help but go back to RG three when
Speaker 3: he played there. He made one Pro Bowl his first year.
Speaker 3: He was incredible and then he got hurt. And if
Speaker 3: you see Jaden Daniels, he not a big guy. He's fast,
Speaker 3: but he's not a big guy. There's a bigger target there.
Speaker 3: He's a tall guy, he's wiry, no density to him,
Speaker 3: like when he gets hit, you know he's spinning, and
Speaker 3: that's what concerns me. You know, when you're looking at
Speaker 3: longevity here, and who would have thought RG three would
Speaker 3: not have been a Hall of Famer if you saw
Speaker 3: in that first year he had track speed and he
Speaker 3: was just different. You're looking at somebody who is the
Speaker 3: prototype of what the league is going to be.
Speaker 2: And then it didn't last long after that.
Speaker 3: But as RG three is said on the show, their
Speaker 3: decisions that he could have made that were smarter decisions.
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels has to understand that. And then I saw
Speaker 3: where the defensive coordinator for the Commanders said, Hey, Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts runs the ball, We're going to hit him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what you're supposed to do. I don't think you
Speaker 3: need to tell everybody that, but the defensive coordinator for
Speaker 3: the Commander's Joe Witt Junior, said yesterday, we're going to
Speaker 3: hit him. That's their decision if they want to get
Speaker 3: him hit. If they don't, then keep him in the pocket. Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you need to say that. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that changes anything for the Eagles and
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, it's like, oh my god, wait, they're going
Speaker 3: to hit me. I'm guessing if you get it. Look,
Speaker 3: if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm telling my team, if
Speaker 3: you get a chance to take a shot, you take
Speaker 3: a shot, do it within the rules best you can.
Speaker 3: But if you somehow maybe go into the maybe that
Speaker 3: wasn't a legitimate hit, that's okay, we'll take the we'll
Speaker 3: take the penalty. I'll pay the fine. I don't know
Speaker 3: if Buffalo would say that to their players privately with
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, but if you get a chance, hit him, yeah.
Speaker 5: They those type of comments do seem to eventually come
Speaker 5: back into like a bounty gate type scenario. You know, like, yes,
Speaker 5: it's great, tell your players that and all that stuff,
Speaker 5: but you don't really say that out loud, necessarily, not
Speaker 5: to go too extreme with it or anything. But they
Speaker 5: it's comments like that that eventually get twisted into something
Speaker 5: that they're not supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Yes, if Buddy Ryan was still coaching, then we might
Speaker 3: go there's a bounty here, but there's no reason. There's
Speaker 3: no reason to say it. If you say it to
Speaker 3: your players, great, but saying it to the media that
Speaker 3: means you're basically going into the Eagles locker room and
Speaker 3: saying to Jalen Hurts, Hey, if you run, we're hitting you.
Speaker 3: By the way, Washington's defense against the Eagles gave up
Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventy two yards and fifty nine points
Speaker 3: in the two games between those two So that's what
Speaker 3: I would be a little more concerned about than just
Speaker 3: making sure I hit Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7: Yes, Paul Washingt's playing the long game. They lulled them
Speaker 7: into a false sense of.
Speaker 2: Security of those two games. Mmm, they did a really
Speaker 2: good job. It is a really good job.
Speaker 6: Yes, unless they're employing reverse psychology making that comment publicly.
Speaker 6: How to even in your subconscious mind an official not
Speaker 6: have that in the back of the mind and anything
Speaker 6: close were like, well, they did say they were going
Speaker 6: to kind of go after them a little bit or
Speaker 6: treat them like a running back, and you're like, not
Speaker 6: intentionally just putting that in the ref's ear that like,
Speaker 6: we're going to be extra close watch how they're gonna
Speaker 6: hit him.
Speaker 3: It happens so fast on the field that I don't
Speaker 3: think it official is in the moment in a split
Speaker 3: second going hey they're dirty. Hey, that's I mean, it
Speaker 3: all kind of sorts itself out. I would think if
Speaker 3: you're hitting somebody in the pocket, then that would be different. Hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna hit him. We're gonna hit him right as
Speaker 3: he throws the ball. That would be something that I
Speaker 3: would keep an eye on. But as far as Jalen
Speaker 3: hurts outside the pocket, well, I mean, he is a
Speaker 3: runner once he's outside the pocket, So I don't I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you say it. You don't need to say it,
Speaker 3: but you might get caught up and you're spirited, you know,
Speaker 3: you're fiery. We're gonna if he runs, we're gonna hit
Speaker 3: him like okay and get his football. I hope you do.
Speaker 3: But do we have that sound? Can we get that? Marvin?
Speaker 8: We've had a number of these guys that they are
Speaker 8: that we've had to prepare for. And so the one
Speaker 8: thing is as if he's going to run the ball,
Speaker 8: and if the coordinator makes a decision for him to
Speaker 8: run the ball, we're gonna treat him like a running
Speaker 8: back and we're going to hit him that way, you know.
Speaker 8: So that's that's their decision. If they want to get
Speaker 8: him hit the way that that he gets hit. If
Speaker 8: they don't, they'll keep me in the pocket. So that's
Speaker 8: that's what we're going to do.
Speaker 3: Okay, coordinators don't talk to the media like, how did
Speaker 3: this happen?
Speaker 2: Where all of a sudden he's given the game plan?
Speaker 2: Here we dare you it hurts to run?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Watch what happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, giving his knee concerns, I don't know how
Speaker 3: much he's going to run. But if you're Washington, keep
Speaker 3: him in the pocket. Make him a thrower. That's no surprise.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break, just getting started on
Speaker 3: the program. By the way, decent weather for both of
Speaker 3: these games coming up this weekend. The Jags get a coach.
Speaker 3: I think we'll have that for you coming up. Dan
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Speaker 3: Case you're wondering why Notre Dame wouldn't join a conference,
Speaker 3: how about we look at the payouts from the college
Speaker 3: football playoffs. The Big Ten made forty six million dollars
Speaker 3: with the six wins that their teams had. The SEC
Speaker 3: twenty six million dollars, but their two wins, then Notre
Speaker 3: Dame made twenty million dollars off their wins. The Big
Speaker 3: twelve had eight million, you had, the ACC had eight million,
Speaker 3: and the Mountain West had eight million.
Speaker 2: That's your payout.
Speaker 3: So until we get into that super conference, Notre Dame
Speaker 3: is going to stay independent. And if you're going to
Speaker 3: expand this from twelve to fourteen, it just means Notre
Speaker 3: Dame is going to make it. You may not want
Speaker 3: to give them a home game, and you know the committee,
Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of things discussed here
Speaker 3: over the next two months and then what is put
Speaker 3: into play with the new TV deal. But that's the payout.
Speaker 3: The Big ten had to share forty six million. How
Speaker 3: many teams are in the Big Ten?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Did each school make like two million dollars or three
Speaker 3: million dollars from this?
Speaker 2: Maybe? What do we have eighteen teams in the Big Ten? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think Ohio State gets a double share because they
Speaker 7: earned it for the title game, but everyone else splits it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Ryan Day will join us in the final lave
Speaker 2: of the program.
Speaker 3: SEC they're sharing their twenty six million with how many
Speaker 3: teams are in the SEC?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: They got like sixteen? So hey got a million million
Speaker 3: and a half dollars. Yeah, things will change though, all right.
Speaker 3: Uh Buddha in San Francisco. Hi Buddha, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: No money?
Speaker 10: Happy to me? Friday boys, Uh DP, you're straight preaching
Speaker 10: this morning. My passion bucket was full after that opening segment.
Speaker 10: By the way, Dan, little lou Holtz there on your desk,
Speaker 10: you got to straighten them up a little bit before.
Speaker 10: Ryan Dacobs on the show. He's had a little gangster
Speaker 10: lean to your left for quite some time. I'm surprised
Speaker 10: you haven't trained him up yet. But anyways, I digress in.
Speaker 10: I am praying for the Lord to deliver us from
Speaker 10: the chief this weekend, and in the great words of
Speaker 10: our friend and Charles Barkley, Guyaudy, the Bills will win
Speaker 10: on Sundays. Let's go for see.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Buddha, have a good weekend.
Speaker 3: Buccaneers offensive coordinator Liam Cohen told the team Thursday that
Speaker 3: he was leaving to become the Jags head coach. Is
Speaker 3: according to a source telling ESPN, two sides have verbally
Speaker 3: agreed on a contract, so this was a wild forty
Speaker 3: eight hours, Liam Cohen all of a sudden became Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3: He pulled himself out of consideration for the Jags job.
Speaker 3: He agreed to a contract extension with the Buccaneers that
Speaker 3: would have made him the NFL highest paid coordinator. That
Speaker 3: he changed his mind after Jacksonville reached out to him,
Speaker 3: and then I think he reconsidered after Jacksonville fired general
Speaker 3: manager Trent Balky. So then they were looking for Liam
Speaker 3: Cohen yesterday all day, Tampa Bay is looking for their offensive.
Speaker 2: Coordinator, and he ghosted them.
Speaker 3: And then I think he got in touch with head
Speaker 3: coach Raheem Morrison said he had been with his son,
Speaker 3: had to take his son to the doctor, and then
Speaker 3: word came that maybe unless the doctor is in Jacksonville
Speaker 3: and he was taking his son there. He was with
Speaker 3: Jacksonville agreeing to a new contract to become the head
Speaker 3: coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. So I'm thinking I heard
Speaker 3: the name Liam Cohen during a Buccaneers broadcast. I didn't
Speaker 3: think much of it. He's kind of traveled around a
Speaker 3: little bit. He was, I think with the Rams. I
Speaker 3: think he was with Kentucky Football and done a great
Speaker 3: job with Baker Mayfield. But all of a sudden, and
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen sounds like he's you know, twenty four years
Speaker 3: of age. He's almost forty, almost forty. I'm a man,
Speaker 3: and he's now jack Well, they've agreed to a deal.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he signed it, but he's agreed
Speaker 3: to a deal. Rick Stroud, who covers the Buccaneers for
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Times, he will join us coming up at
Speaker 3: top the next hour.
Speaker 2: Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: Diane ever seen you at the Athletic reported that he
Speaker 7: was back in Tampa going to be the assistant offensive
Speaker 7: coordinator again and get the big deal. Then they put
Speaker 7: him on a plane back to Jacksonville, not drive a plane.
Speaker 7: They let him pick the general manager, according to Diana,
Speaker 7: and offered him Ben Johnson level money for multiple years.
Speaker 2: Dang, Yes, Todd, But did.
Speaker 6: Liam give Tampa Bay a doctor's note at least, because
Speaker 6: sometimes just like in school, you give the doctor's note.
Speaker 2: That it's okay, I don't know, we can ask.
Speaker 6: We're absolved from all the problems if you get Yeah.
Speaker 2: But they so they were.
Speaker 3: They said, hey, we need you to come in and
Speaker 3: sign your contract in Tampa.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: And I think that was Wednesday, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden Thursday, they're reaching out and going, hey, come on,
Speaker 3: we need you to come in now. I'm paraphrasing this
Speaker 3: from some of the reporting there, but you can't get
Speaker 3: in touch with him, and then you realize he's taking
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville John that he calls up Raheem Morse at
Speaker 3: five o'clock on Thursday, and they've been trying to get
Speaker 3: in touch with him.
Speaker 2: I guess the entire day. Yes, boy.
Speaker 7: Ashley Cohen, the wife of Liam Cohen, actually posted on
Speaker 7: social media an hour ago, an hour ago quote, I
Speaker 7: hate that I have to say this, but people are
Speaker 7: negative about my kids. I will not be silent. Our
Speaker 7: son is sick. We were at the hospital yesterday seeking
Speaker 7: a specialist for his autoimmune disease. Please don't spread information misinformation.
Speaker 7: That was just an hour ago.
Speaker 2: She posted it.
Speaker 5: Okay, sounds like she's unknown it too.
Speaker 2: Supportive wife, supportive.
Speaker 3: Wife, Okay, but I'd still like to know how did
Speaker 3: you get to Jacksonville. There had to be some preparations that, yes,
Speaker 3: I hope your son is better, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: a good bright outlook here and maybe he was there,
Speaker 3: but Tampa. You didn't tell Tampa you're going to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: So both things can be true that, Hey, your son
Speaker 3: was at the hospital and you ghosted Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: Yes, Todd's that's the problem.
Speaker 6: If you care, a quick little note, a little emoji, something,
Speaker 6: just to let them know that you're acknowledging that they're
Speaker 6: looking for you and you just can't be there just yet.
Speaker 6: I don't know why that's too much, unless it's such
Speaker 6: an emergency situation where you can't take a couple of
Speaker 6: seconds to say, let me get back to you. I'm
Speaker 6: dealing with my kids illness.
Speaker 5: Win now, yes, well, I mean okay, yes, he air
Speaker 5: quotes disappeared right from Tampa to Jacksonville. It's not like
Speaker 5: it was Miami to Seattle. They're three hours apart from
Speaker 5: each other. It's not like he you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he didn't tell them that he was going there.
Speaker 3: Why does he need to Well, because they were waiting
Speaker 3: for him to sign a contract. They had just made
Speaker 3: him the highest paid coordinator in the NFL. He came
Speaker 3: back and he said, hey, are you gonna take care
Speaker 3: of me? We will come in and sign your deal.
Speaker 3: You have to at least say, hey, I'll be there late.
Speaker 3: Hey I got something I'm dealing with. It's really important.
Speaker 3: I'll be there.
Speaker 2: But you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't you leave them hanging like that that you're like, eh,
Speaker 3: I'm oh, forgot to tell you.
Speaker 2: Hey, I forgot I was in Jacksonville. Like, you can't
Speaker 2: do that to him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauline, I think I disagree on this one because
Speaker 7: the Jaguars are pursuing him for a much higher level
Speaker 7: job that pays much more. I would have gotten on
Speaker 7: that plane and see what you could do with Jacksonville
Speaker 7: and talk to them. I think they'd be dangerous for
Speaker 7: your career to call Tampa your bosses and say I'm
Speaker 7: about to get on a plane to look at another job.
Speaker 7: You may be in no man's land.
Speaker 2: Then you've already spoken to them.
Speaker 3: You spoke to them and came back to get a
Speaker 3: better offer from Tampa, so that already happened. This isn't
Speaker 3: like they didn't know you were talking to Jacksonville. You
Speaker 3: told them that you were going to sign this contract
Speaker 3: and then you end up going to Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: I get it, Tampa.
Speaker 3: If you said to Tampa, hey, Jacksonville just fired their GM,
Speaker 3: I have to talk to them about this head coaching.
Speaker 3: They're not going to pass on a guy who is
Speaker 3: this good to that organization. If you're going to spend
Speaker 3: that kind of money on him, then you really believe
Speaker 3: in him, and you believe in him as maybe your
Speaker 3: next head coach in Tampa at some point. So I
Speaker 3: don't think I think you could have just said to him, hey,
Speaker 3: to check this out. You know, my goal is to
Speaker 3: be a head coach. I have this opportunity. Maybe it
Speaker 3: won't work out. I'm sorry, I'm leaving you hanging here,
Speaker 3: but this doesn't look good. I mean, he's gonna get
Speaker 3: the job. We might, you know, look back on this,
Speaker 3: or you know, if Jacksonville plays Tampa, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: he won't get a hero's welcome.
Speaker 2: It's just messy. It's just messy.
Speaker 3: And most of these owners they know, if you get
Speaker 3: the job or a chance to be a head coach,
Speaker 3: we won't stand in your way. And they were offering
Speaker 3: him great money to be a coordinator. Now Jacksonville offered
Speaker 3: him money that's similar to what Ben Johnson got in Chicago.
Speaker 3: So he played both sides. Maybe he did it brilliantly.
Speaker 3: It's just messy. The Cowboys situation isn't firm yet. Brian
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer looks like they're going to elevate him. I guess
Speaker 3: if I'm going to use a word, i'd say pending.
Speaker 3: Then there was the are they going to reach out
Speaker 3: to other candidates here Pete Carroll? There was a report
Speaker 3: that they called Pete Carroll. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: have Pete Carroll be part of the staff, which would
Speaker 3: be weird because is Pete a consultant and advisor head coach?
Speaker 2: Ish? But it's the Cowboys. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you go, gosh, we got our guy, like
Speaker 3: Chicago got a guy that a few teams wanted. If
Speaker 3: nobody wants the guy that you're hiring, that might be
Speaker 3: a telltale sign of did we get the right guy?
Speaker 3: Did we get the right guy for Jerry to still
Speaker 3: be able to be the coach of this team? And
Speaker 3: maybe it works out it just if I'm a Cowboys fan,
Speaker 3: I feel like, what do we do?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? We've been down this road before.
Speaker 3: You got the Commanders and the Eagles in the NFC
Speaker 3: title game?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? And that was the feeling I got.
Speaker 3: I thought, and I don't see Pete Carroll taking a
Speaker 3: job like that, Like I didn't see Dion taking a
Speaker 3: job like that, and Jerry should realize there are coordinators
Speaker 3: or former coaches who don't want to go into that situation,
Speaker 3: and it's weird. I don't know if Mike McCarthy said,
Speaker 3: I don't want to come back for one more year,
Speaker 3: it's still the Cowboys, and maybe he's got a job
Speaker 3: waiting with the Sins. Maybe I thought maybe the Bears
Speaker 3: would work out for him, because if Ryan or Ben
Speaker 3: Johnson went to the Raiders, then maybe he would have
Speaker 3: gotten the Bear's job. But you walk away from the
Speaker 3: Cowboys and Jerry would have given you one more year.
Speaker 3: But Mike didn't want to be dangled like that and
Speaker 3: he shouldn't be. But because of that, you don't fire
Speaker 3: Mike when you probably should have. If you're moving on
Speaker 3: from him or kind of moving on, then move on
Speaker 3: from him. It's like, if you're thinking of retiring, then retire.
Speaker 3: That's what I always tell an athlete. If you're thinking
Speaker 3: of retiring, then retire. But they miss out on interviewing
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, they didn't interview Mike Vrabel. So here you
Speaker 3: are Dion wasn't an interview. That's a conversation. Somebody made
Speaker 3: it public. That and maybe both did it helped Dion,
Speaker 3: and then Jerry stays in the news cycle for an
Speaker 3: entire week. Hey, they're considering Dion. Brian Schottenheimer is a
Speaker 3: football lifer. He's bounced around his father, you know, Marty Schottenheimer,
Speaker 3: and maybe it works out, but it feels like a
Speaker 3: Jerry jones Hire that nobody else would make that higher.
Speaker 3: It's like when Barry Switzer came in, there is nobody
Speaker 3: who go, man, we want to get Barry Switzer. Dave Campo,
Speaker 3: I mean you can run to Chan Gaily. I mean,
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells was a big get and then Parcells goes.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to stay in this.
Speaker 3: So you you have occasionally a bigger personality. You know,
Speaker 3: Jason Garrett loved Jason, but he was ideal for Jerry.
Speaker 3: It's like he had his other son there coaching and
Speaker 3: he was there to help him constantly. These coaches, it
Speaker 3: just feels that way, and it's unfortunate because Cowboy fans
Speaker 3: deserve better than that. I mean, do I want the
Speaker 3: Cowboys to win, No, but you've suffered for thirty years.
Speaker 3: You were insufferable before that. Now I feel bad for
Speaker 3: you because you're stuck. You're in, You're in the colts,
Speaker 3: you can't get out, and that cult leader keeps doing
Speaker 3: the same stuff, same stuff. Oh my goodness, it's it's
Speaker 3: football ayahuasca, Like, uh, we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get it's gonna be better, it's gonna be different. And
Speaker 2: then it's not. It's the same.
Speaker 3: You go into that TP and you come out and
Speaker 3: you go, uh oh no, same thing, yeah.
Speaker 5: Se, So is the problem here really just that he said, well,
Speaker 5: I'm taking my name out of the running and then
Speaker 5: threw his name right back in. That's really the whole
Speaker 5: problem with Cohen, right. He said that he wasn't gonna
Speaker 5: go after the job anymore. He interviewed and he was
Speaker 5: just like, all right, I'm not I'm not gonna take
Speaker 5: that job. They came to some kind of verbal agreement
Speaker 5: for a new payment with the Bucks and then he's like, well,
Speaker 5: maybe I will go back to the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: Well, they fired Trent Balkey, and I think that's why
Speaker 3: he wasn't taking the job. I think they wanted him
Speaker 3: to take the job, and then I don't think he
Speaker 3: you know a lot of these candidates they didn't want
Speaker 3: to go in there with Trent Baulkey.
Speaker 5: Firing the GM is what changed his mind for the
Speaker 5: second interview.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I think they wanted him to be the coach.
Speaker 3: I don't think he wanted to work with Trent Bulky.
Speaker 3: That's why he went back to Tampa. They gave him
Speaker 3: a contract extension. Then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's like, we're gonna lose him. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 3: fire Trent Pulkey.
Speaker 5: Trent Falkey must make a real impression, even dudes who've
Speaker 5: never coached, and he like, oh that guy. I'd rather
Speaker 5: stay the coordinator over here down the road. No thanks,
Speaker 5: all right, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 3: name is mentioned statistically with Wilt Chamberlain, I take note
Speaker 3: because we kind of dismiss Wilt's numbers. We're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but that was before the NBA became the NBA. Hey
Speaker 3: average fifty points a game? Yeah, was he playing against Okay?
Speaker 3: I understand that Nikola jokicch had his name mentioned with
Speaker 3: Wil Chamberlain last night. He had a thirty five twenty
Speaker 3: two seventeen night. The last time that happened in the
Speaker 3: NBA was Wilt Chamberlain in nineteen sixty eight. Will also
Speaker 3: did it in nineteen sixty eight. Another time, Oscar Robertson
Speaker 3: did it twice in nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: Whoa now stead of a day Stanta day, stead of
Speaker 5: a day Stantata day.
Speaker 2: This is the Stele of the.
Speaker 3: Day four games this season with at least twenty twenty
Speaker 3: and ten, the only player to have one game this
Speaker 3: season like that. But it's become commonplace for him, and
Speaker 3: he's doing triple doubles in three quarters, so he averages
Speaker 3: a triple double and he gets his average in some
Speaker 3: of these games by the end of the third quarter.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to win the MVP this
Speaker 3: year because I do think that the voters will lean
Speaker 3: towards Shay Gilgis Alexander. Oklahoma City is a better team,
Speaker 3: better record. But what Joker's doing, he's still the best
Speaker 3: player in basketball. Now that doesn't mean you're always the MVP,
Speaker 3: but he's still the best player in basketball. And it's
Speaker 3: strange to watch somebody play a game. He plays old
Speaker 3: man basketball and he's twenty nine. He doesn't speed up
Speaker 3: like he'll play this way until he dies. You know,
Speaker 3: he could be sixty out there. He's not slowing down.
Speaker 3: He's already slowed down. Oh he's not gonna be able
Speaker 3: to jump that high. He can't jump that high. It's
Speaker 3: we've all played on the playground and there's that guy
Speaker 3: that you know, cut off shorts and he's got beat
Speaker 3: up con On and he's the guy who probably played
Speaker 3: in the Ivy League for Cornell, and the guy's torching everybody,
Speaker 3: and you're going, you gotta be kidding me, you gotta
Speaker 3: be kidding. This guy's got black socks on, and like,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? This guy's dominating. That's Joker. Joker
Speaker 3: plays at a pace that's different. We think, you know
Speaker 3: a you know, athletically, it's speed, gotta be fast, gotta
Speaker 3: it's not. It's when you need to speed up, when
Speaker 3: you slow down. And there's so many players that have
Speaker 3: been able to do like Paul Pierce. I never understood
Speaker 3: the greatness of Paul Piers, not that he wasn't great.
Speaker 3: I just never understood how Paul Pierce could do what
Speaker 3: he wanted to do to Lebron James. And if you
Speaker 3: look at them athletically, it's not even close. But Paul
Speaker 3: understood how to get to certain places use his body,
Speaker 3: angles Kawhi Leonard, he can have the game. He can
Speaker 3: dictate the pace of a game when he was healthy.
Speaker 3: Luca does this the pace of the game, and Joker
Speaker 3: does this as well. And it's remarkable when your name
Speaker 3: is mentioned with Wilt, when it comes to offensive statistics,
Speaker 3: you get my attention, and that's pretty impressive. Go thirty five,
Speaker 3: twenty two, and seventeen. I don't know if he was
Speaker 3: sweating either. I don't know if he broke a sweat,
Speaker 3: but it just feels like a yeah, that's my job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pauling, he's.
Speaker 7: Up to thirty points a game, thirteen and a half rebounds,
Speaker 7: ten assists. Here's a stat for you. He's never been
Speaker 7: a volume three point shooter. This year he's up to
Speaker 7: shooting over four threes per game. Guess who is currently
Speaker 7: the league leader in players who take four or more
Speaker 7: three point shots per game three point percentage.
Speaker 3: Jokis well, Joker's shooting I think forty eight or forty
Speaker 3: nine percent from three point right is at.
Speaker 7: Forty eight percent. He's never been above thirty eight percent
Speaker 7: in his entire career. And it's not a small sample size. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's what's amazing.
Speaker 3: And you look at that shot and it's almost as
Speaker 3: if you're or you have a folding ladder and then
Speaker 3: you open the ladder up. That's how it takes him
Speaker 3: that long to get that shot all the way up
Speaker 3: and all the way back. But it's a really pure
Speaker 3: shot follow through, but forty eight percent, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yes, Mark, you.
Speaker 4: Hit it on the head. Yesterday you were talking about
Speaker 4: the MVP's kind of like the Academy Awards. This is
Speaker 4: gonna be his Godfather, Like he didn't win for the Godfather,
Speaker 4: but he won for Scent of a Woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree because I think that there was
Speaker 3: a real push for embiid to win the MVP. I
Speaker 3: think the voters, some voters went out of their way
Speaker 3: to really make this a campaign against Joker. Now, embiide
Speaker 3: had great numbers. I think the campaign has already started
Speaker 3: with SGA and his team is really good and he
Speaker 3: just put up fifty four and he's the favorite right
Speaker 3: now to win the MVP.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pony, I think you've brought this up before, back
Speaker 7: like ten years ago with Lebron, when you're considered the
Speaker 7: best player on Earth and there's not really a discuss,
Speaker 7: but you're not in the MVP vote. It's you've entered
Speaker 7: another category of being taken for granted mahomes the past
Speaker 7: two or three years. It's the ultimate category.
Speaker 3: By the way, we have the most must win game
Speaker 3: of the weekend. We'll have that for you coming up
Speaker 3: we'll try to sort through the mess that is Jacksonville
Speaker 3: and Tampa Bay with their new head coach. That'll be
Speaker 3: coming up. Mike in Texas. Hi, Mike, what's on your
Speaker 3: mind today?
Speaker 11: Hey Dave? I heard I'm not sorry, not Dave there.
Speaker 11: I heard you talking to Dave a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 11: who retired after forty years, and y'all have some history together,
Speaker 11: and I guess y'all started off together. And you know,
Speaker 11: I was listening to Dave and all of his messages,
Speaker 11: hair sing you get me really choked up in the thing.
Speaker 11: You think, did it change her feeling about retirement more
Speaker 11: excited or more apprehensive?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I'm fine with my decision. But I had to
Speaker 3: make a decision. I don't want to hold on. I
Speaker 3: want it to be great. I want the show to
Speaker 3: be great when it's done, and not to compare ourselves
Speaker 3: to Seinfeld. But you know Jerry talked about that he
Speaker 3: wanted the show to be great. You don't want to
Speaker 3: just hang on. He passed on a lot of money
Speaker 3: to do another year, and I want to be great
Speaker 3: when we're done with this. I don't want it to
Speaker 3: be Yeah, it's about the time, so No, I'm fine.
Speaker 3: I'm fine, no problems, no issues. Fritzy's always like you're
Speaker 3: going to reconsider. Have you thought about reconsidering?
Speaker 10: You?
Speaker 4: Guys hold that hope.
Speaker 2: Them Cohen, It's true, it's true. All right. One hour
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