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Speaker 1: We will have no choice but you totally destroy North Korea.

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Speaker 1: the Freedom on honor, privilege, and pleasure as always to

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Speaker 1: likes well done steak people that get really excited about

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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan CDs. Um, yeah, that's right. So you know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's out there. He says this, and he lets

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Speaker 1: it sit and and you know, looks around the room

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Speaker 1: as though he is waiting for applause, and no applause

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Speaker 1: comes his way. There is no applause. In fact, you

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Speaker 1: can see that the faces of the assembled delegates from

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Speaker 1: around the world, they're kind of you know, m hmmm, um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the faces of those around the room are

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Speaker 1: no longer able to hide the disdain, the disdain that

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Speaker 1: they have for what has gone on here. Right. They

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Speaker 1: hate that he calls out socialism that way. They hate

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Speaker 1: that he is pointing to the failure in Venezuela as

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Speaker 1: a failure of governance. I should note there are a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of countries Cuba, a bunch of Latin American

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Speaker 1: states you can point to that are that we're very cozy.

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Speaker 1: Russia is very cozy with Venezuela. Iran's very cozy with Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: It's like the loser club of all the different countries

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Speaker 1: that want to support Venezuela. And there were people in

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Speaker 1: this country as well, big pundits and and writers, particularly writers,

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Speaker 1: not so much pundits, but big you know writers out

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Speaker 1: there for major newspapers who were saying back in even

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Speaker 1: that the Bolvarian Revolution of Venezuela was the kind of

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Speaker 1: social justice political movement that should be emulated in this country,

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Speaker 1: which is just insanity. But but what we saw is

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Speaker 1: that Trump was calling out socialism and saying that it

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Speaker 1: was faithfully executed and that that was in fact the problem,

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Speaker 1: and that they did not like that in that room

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Speaker 1: one bit. You have a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: European states with prime ministers, certainly with politicians who are

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Speaker 1: favorable towards socialism. I mean, is it not the case

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Speaker 1: that Monsieur fasci Fez is socialist, very fancy socialist, but

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Speaker 1: these socialists there are others too. That state is m

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Speaker 1: Government control of an economy is what destroyed Venezuela. Government

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Speaker 1: control of the economis what destroyed Venezuela. I should not

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Speaker 1: The government control of the economy is what destroyed Argentina

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Speaker 1: time and time again, go back for a hundred years,

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Speaker 1: all the defaults and the devaluations of the currency, and

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Speaker 1: it's just bad management at the top level of the government.

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Speaker 1: It can destroy a country. It destroyed the economy for

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Speaker 1: a long time in Argentina, and it has It has

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Speaker 1: destroyed more than just the economy, it has destroyed civil society.

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Speaker 1: In Venezuela. We don't hear that much about it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's because the media is just so

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Speaker 1: interested in the latest, you know, Russia Trump story or something.

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Speaker 1: But there's the shortages that are going on in Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: the rampant violence in the streets, the the the back

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Speaker 1: and forth with the government about rewriting the constitution, the

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Speaker 1: seizing of power. I mean, you can roadmap out what

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Speaker 1: has happened in veneze Ala, and it is the textbook

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Speaker 1: case of a descent into of tyranny, forcing a descent

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Speaker 1: into anarchy. And the motor behind this, the engine behind

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Speaker 1: all of it, is a government that controls the economy

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Speaker 1: and that says it is operating for the benefit of

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Speaker 1: the dispossessed, the poor. Social justice Venezuela is a story

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Speaker 1: about the destructive power of social justice. That's really what

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Speaker 1: happened there. Yes, I know, it's socialism and price controls

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Speaker 1: and and and seizure of assets under government auspices. And

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Speaker 1: and all of that too. But the only way you

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Speaker 1: have a so called Bolvarian revolution, the only way you

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Speaker 1: have an idiot like Maduro in charge after having Joves

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Speaker 1: also an idiot in charge, is by populism based in

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Speaker 1: the redistribution of wealth, helping the poor at the expense

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Speaker 1: of the rich fat cats, at the expense of the

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Speaker 1: Americans who are meddling. You know. That's that was the promise,

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Speaker 1: the basic promise, and it has just it is just

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Speaker 1: a complete and utter disaster, complete and utter disaster. So

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Speaker 1: so it is a so it is a crisis created

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Speaker 1: through social justice. And that's the message that not only

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Speaker 1: American liberals don't want to hear, but the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world, with their governments and the one world government

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Speaker 1: of the u N certainly doesn't want to hear that.

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Speaker 1: One quick thing also, I wanted to get to is

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Speaker 1: is Iran. This is what he had to say about Iran.

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Speaker 1: The Iranian government masks a corrupt dictatorship behind the false

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Speaker 1: guys of a democracy. It has turned a wealthy country

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Speaker 1: with a rich history and culture into an economically depleted

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Speaker 1: rogue state whose chief exports are violence, bloodshed, and chaos.

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Speaker 1: The longest suffering victims of Iran's leaders are in fact

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Speaker 1: it's own people. Completely true and interesting. Uh before the

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Speaker 1: possible certification, re certification or de certification of the Iran Deal,

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Speaker 1: the Iran Nuclear Deal that the Obama administration was so

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Speaker 1: desperate to do that Trump would go after Iran and

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Speaker 1: such clear and unabashed terms. Um So, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk a bit about whether all this North Korea stuff

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Speaker 1: we're hearing is gonna mean much. And we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into that, and just a few stay with me. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back everybody. I know we have been talking about North

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Speaker 1: Korea here on buck Sexton with American Out today, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring in somebody to give additional perspective

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Speaker 1: on this issue. We've got Michael Malice with us now.

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Speaker 1: He is the author of Dear Reader, the unauthorized autobiography

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Speaker 1: of Kim Jong Ill. He's also the host of Your Welcome.

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Speaker 1: He is a North Korea analyst extraordinaire. Michael, Great to

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Speaker 1: have you back. Uh. So, you have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: conversations going on right now at the United Nations UM

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Speaker 1: and in the media. But at the U N people

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Speaker 1: are obviously gonna be talking quite a bit about what's

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Speaker 1: happening with North Korea. And you have, for example, Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley saying the following, And I think we saw United

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Speaker 1: Nations where the United States was giving over of the

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Speaker 1: funding and was being utterly disrespected. A United Nations that

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Speaker 1: was bashing Israel every chance they get, a United Nations

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Speaker 1: that talked a lot but didn't have a lot of action.

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Speaker 1: And now we can say it is a new day

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Speaker 1: at the u N. What you were announcaeing is the

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Speaker 1: Israel bashing has become more balanced. You've got United Nations

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Speaker 1: that's action oriented. We've passed two resolutions on North Korea

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Speaker 1: just in the last month, and you also have a

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Speaker 1: United Nations that is okay, So you got you got

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Speaker 1: the idea, Michael, she's she's talking about this well, would

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Speaker 1: be a diplomatic win, at least based on how the

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Speaker 1: international relations specialists talk about it. These sanctions on North Korea,

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Speaker 1: the UN passed, gonna really do anything? What's what's your assessment.

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Speaker 1: What's hilarious to me is how little principles conservatives frequently

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Speaker 1: have And Nikki Haley is just touting as a win

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Speaker 1: that the Israel dashing will be balanced. Well, that's the

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Speaker 1: rest real success balanced Israel dashing. No, the UN is

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Speaker 1: very ineffectual. Everyone knows the UN is very ineffectual. And

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Speaker 1: in this case, it's not the U n s fault.

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Speaker 1: It is completely and entirely the fault of the North

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Speaker 1: Korean regime, the worst country on earth, the worst government

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Speaker 1: on earth, and they are proud of the fact that, look,

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Speaker 1: we are standing up to the United World. This for

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Speaker 1: them is a source of pride. Kim Jong muon is

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Speaker 1: this you know, people make fun of him in the

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Speaker 1: Western press as this like silly fat kid. This silly

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Speaker 1: fat kid is taking on every other country combined, and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing any of them seemed to be able to

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Speaker 1: do about it. I thought one of the most interesting

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Speaker 1: UH statements to come out of Rex Tellerson recently was

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Speaker 1: he was like, look, you know that this the secure

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Speaker 1: the sanctions we got to the Security Council. UH, And

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Speaker 1: you know, Nikki Harley, one of them said, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It's speaking from the same sheet of music. The sanctions

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Speaker 1: that they got at the UN Security Council recently were

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Speaker 1: as as close to strangulation sanctions as they're gonna get realistically,

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Speaker 1: and in a sense they want to celebrate this, or

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Speaker 1: at least view this as progress. But I think they're

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Speaker 1: telling us this to prepare us for the fact that

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Speaker 1: if the goal here is to get North Korea to

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Speaker 1: give up its nuclear program, these sanctions have an almost

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Speaker 1: zero percent chance of working. I mean, I won't say

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Speaker 1: it's zero, but it's definitely less than five. It has

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Speaker 1: a chance of working in the opposite effect. But if

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Speaker 1: I came to you and I said, if you don't

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Speaker 1: give up your gun, I'm going to strangle you, you you

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Speaker 1: think the word strangulation. Are you going to give me

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Speaker 1: your gun or you're going to buy a second gun.

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Speaker 1: So sanctions don't work in the sense that if you

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Speaker 1: have a government that is willing to let its population start,

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Speaker 1: if you have a government that has almost complete control

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Speaker 1: of their press, and they will say, look the re

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Speaker 1: and you don't have food. Are these sanctions? The reason

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Speaker 1: you don't have clothing and housing is because of these sanctions.

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Speaker 1: And they will point to these clips and say, look,

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Speaker 1: the evil Americans are bragging about the fact that their

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Speaker 1: sanctions are not allowing food to get to you. What

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Speaker 1: impression is that typical North Korean who is a slave,

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Speaker 1: who is a prisoner to this despotic regime. What impression

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Speaker 1: are they going to get in this sense they're going

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Speaker 1: to be speaking truth. Michael Malice is the author of

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Speaker 1: Dear Reader, the unauthorized autobiography of Kim Jong Il. He's

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Speaker 1: with us now on the North Korea situation. Michael, where

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Speaker 1: do you think this is going? That's what everyone you

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Speaker 1: know that it's the same, It's the same basic routine.

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Speaker 1: Whatever North Korea fires a missile, you get a bunch

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Speaker 1: of you know, retired generals on TV and reporters for

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Speaker 1: different major newspapers are saying, well, you know, we need

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Speaker 1: smarter sanctions, we need more sanctions, and then we do it,

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Speaker 1: and then another missile gets fired and nothing really ever

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Speaker 1: seems to change. Where do you think this is heading? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these people don't have electricity for the populace.

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Speaker 1: What else are you going to take away from them?

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Speaker 1: And why would it caused the government to change in

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Speaker 1: any possible way. What we are seeing is a game

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Speaker 1: of chicken where you have two cars gracing at each

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Speaker 1: other as as they can, and it's a question of

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Speaker 1: who is going to blink first. Now, there are enormous

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Speaker 1: incentives for North Korea not to blink most especially and

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Speaker 1: obviously when these regimes go down, as in Iraq, as

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Speaker 1: in Libya, the people at the top are usually personally killed,

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Speaker 1: and with good reason. So Kim Jong lun is not

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Speaker 1: in a position to say, hey, let's set North Korea free,

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Speaker 1: even if he wanted to. And at the same time,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the press over there where it's

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Speaker 1: filled jubilation and joy and they're having parades and you're saying,

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Speaker 1: look are programs are getting more and more successful, And

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Speaker 1: then you look at the press here where everyone is

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Speaker 1: freaking out and panicking. They're controlling the narrative. So this

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Speaker 1: is another reason for them to can you continue along

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Speaker 1: this path? Because no matter what the West is saying

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Speaker 1: or doing, they are still defying us, and there in

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Speaker 1: this in a very very dark sense, winning the argument.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what what it was take honestly,

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Speaker 1: which is something that most of those people who gone

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Speaker 1: TV don't have and which I don't even have, is

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Speaker 1: hostage negotiation techniques. What does it take to get a

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Speaker 1: killer to hand over his weaponry? This is a very

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Speaker 1: sophisticated question to ask him to answer, and this is

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Speaker 1: something that most people who don't don't even understand the

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Speaker 1: mooth Korean regime at all, certainly are in a positioned answer.

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Speaker 1: We had Secretary of State Rex Tillerson speaking about this

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Speaker 1: on on the some of the Sunday shows, and he

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Speaker 1: mentioned specifically the four knows in dealing with North Korea.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they are the United States, John towards North

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Speaker 1: Korea is to deny North Korea possession of a nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapon and the ability to deliver that weapon. Our strategy

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Speaker 1: has been to undertake this peaceful pressure campaign we call

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Speaker 1: it UH enabled by the four knows. The four knows

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Speaker 1: being that we do not seek regime change, we do

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Speaker 1: not seek a regime collapse, we do not seek an

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Speaker 1: accelerated reunification of the peninsula, and we not seek a

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Speaker 1: reason to send our forces north the demilitary zone. So

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Speaker 1: the peaceful pressure and pain is built around and putting

642
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: together the largest and strongest international coalition we can to

643
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: send the same message to North Korea and to North

644
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Korea's neighbors China and Russia that this is the policy

645
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: of the rest of the world. And you've seen that

646
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: expressed night and too unanimous Security Council resulents. Okay, you

647
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: get the idea of Michael the four. The four knows,

648
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: Um no regime change? Uh what what is the yes,

649
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: he went through all these things on like so, so

650
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: we have a North Korean Kim dynasty and perpetuity because

651
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: no regime change, no, no, nothing. I mean you just

652
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: go down the list and right, and honestly, the real

653
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: concern is regime. Is that regime change in the Iraq sense,

654
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: with the sense of just giving these people just to

655
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: measure of food and education and maybe a passport. But

656
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, how is North Korea gonna trust?

657
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Secretary Tillison went at the same time the president and

658
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying he did the wrong thing.

659
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: At the same time, the president is saying we will

660
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: rain down fire and fury on you the likes the

661
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: world has never seen. And people attacked him for that,

662
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: but they were threatening to attack Guam and that never happened.

663
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: So maybe that is a better technique than peaceful. And

664
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: again we're trying everything at once and nothing seems to

665
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: be working. At the same time, we all have to

666
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: realize that North Korea is a closed, dictatorial society. So

667
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: much of this negotiation and you see it flip out

668
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: sometimes in the press. Much of the negotiation is happening

669
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. There are back channels operations happening all

670
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: the time, which allows us and them to put things

671
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: on the table that would allow both nations to say face.

672
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: So behind a lot of this bluster, there is diplomacy

673
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: going on because these people are very conniving, very wicked,

674
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: but they're not done much to discuss in the Freedom

675
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: Hudson the team, thank you so much for being here

676
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: with me. Eight four or four nine eight four four

677
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: to five. Got some calls up on North Korea. Wanted

678
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: to take them before we move on to a few

679
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: topics this hour, including the two decisions admissions or fellowship decisions,

680
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: depends on which one we're talking about at Harvard University

681
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: and what that tells us about the state of the academy.

682
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: And but before I get to that, I think we

683
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: need to go a bit into the Georgia Tech situation.

684
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Last night, there's a police car lit on fire. I mean,

685
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: they they fire bombed a car and a police car

686
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: a Georgia Tech because of this incident with a student

687
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: that occurred a couple of days ago. This comes after

688
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: a few days of violent protests in St. Louis after

689
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: an officer was acquitted there in a shooting. I think

690
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: the shooting was twenty eleven. The shooting was a while ago.

691
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: Um So anyway, Well, we'll get into some of that.

692
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: But I know we've got people want to talk about

693
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: North Korea, So let's do that first. Richard in West

694
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: Virginia on w w V A Hey, Richard, Well, I

695
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: one day give you my overrated artist. That you're done

696
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: with that, so I'll just move on to what I called. No. No,

697
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: you can give me it over it, you can give

698
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: me an overrated We got time, Richard, who's the most

699
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: overrated musician of all time? I'm not sure if I

700
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to know if you knew Jack. Have you

701
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: ever heard of him that? Patty? No, I've never heard

702
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: of this person, So I don't know how overrated he

703
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: can be. But North Korea talk. What do you got

704
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: on your mind of North Korea? Richard? As far as

705
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: you look Korea, I wanted to ask you this. This

706
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: is something I've heard many times before, probably from you too.

707
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: You talked about North Korea. I mean President Trump. I

708
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: guess the first question I can ask you, do you

709
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: believe and just about everything he says talks about North

710
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: especially with three of the little fat dictator. Even the

711
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: local host ground here talk about him. That's basically all

712
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: is this little fat man that isn't a reflect to anybody,

713
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: and he just popped off just like you could just

714
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: say to him, just go away, boy, you bother me

715
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: that he really isn't gonna be anything. He's all more

716
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: dark than he is bike And it's just seems to

717
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: me the North Korea, I'm not to getting them mixed

718
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: up with Patty where you see all. It seems like

719
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: they have a lot of troops that are well trained.

720
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: So I guess I could just ask you, I what

721
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: Trump says A lot of stuff. I'll really on misbelief

722
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: that he says. I'm drinking kid, But I just want

723
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: to ask you, is North Korea somebody that didn't have

724
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: the stay start have to worry about? Well, yeah, Richard,

725
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: there there are real concerns about North Korea for US

726
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: that that go well beyond the Korean peninsula. Let me

727
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: just say that, if, in my opinion, if the US

728
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: were to withdraw its military presence from South Korea and

729
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: break our military promise, break publicly break our alliance with

730
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: South Korea. North Korea would invade, and it would happen quickly.

731
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how quickly, but it would happen. So

732
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: North Korea's posture towards South Korea is not just saber rattling.

733
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: It's not just to uh for internal stability reasons, although

734
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: that's actually a reason to invade UH. There there's more

735
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: to it than that. I mean, North Korea I think

736
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: has a million man standing army, It has nuclear it

737
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: has nuclear weapons, it's working on its missile technology, it

738
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: has all kinds of other very nasty weapons we don't

739
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: often talk about, but that our our banned under uh,

740
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, banned under different treaties. So, I mean North

741
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Korea is a problem for South Korea, to be sure, UM,

742
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: and it becomes a problem for all of us when

743
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: you consider the possibility of proliferation. If North Korea were

744
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: to sell in part or in whole it's missile and

745
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: or nuclear weapons technology to other rogue states. The one

746
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: that comes to mind first is Iran, but there are

747
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: others as well, or even even non state actors or

748
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: terrorist entities. Then it becomes a big problem for US,

749
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: and that would be a way when we talk about, oh,

750
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: North Korea would never hit us because we would annihilate them,

751
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: And that came up today at the U N Well,

752
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: if it's not North Korea that hits US, if it's

753
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, if it's the Islamic state that it's gotten

754
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: its hands on. And I know this starts to sound

755
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: like a Tom Clancy novel, but these are very real

756
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: concerns that people have about about proliferation, about non proliferation efforts,

757
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: and that's when it becomes it, That's when it becomes

758
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: an issue for everybody, right because what are you gonna

759
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: do you? I mean, if isis let detonates a new

760
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: kind a US city, we're gonna we're gonna evaporate North

761
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: Korea because they gave it to them, because we say so.

762
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it gets complicated very quickly, never mind the

763
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: awful humanitarian cost to all this. Well that's why I

764
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: just think, like I said, to hear so many people

765
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: just say I'm using that time again. Just go right, boy,

766
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: you bother me. It's like that he's not a threat,

767
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: But if they keep talking about him all the time

768
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: like they do, it seems like he must be a threat.

769
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Because if if you want a threat, why would the

770
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: all these people, I guess like you and others, national, local,

771
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: everybody talked about him. If he wasn't a threat, you

772
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: could just ignore him. But it seems like he must

773
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: have something going for him. And yeah, it's really no,

774
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: he's he's a he's a he's a legit concern, Richard,

775
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you holding for a while and thank

776
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: you for calling in. Uh, he's a real concern. North

777
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Korea is is an anachronism in a sense. It's really

778
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: a hold over to the Cold War, to the Soviet era,

779
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: and it's the part of the Cold War that haunts us.

780
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: Really the most obvious part of the Cold War that

781
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: haunts us to this day. It just never really stopped. Uh,

782
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: it's that's never gone away. Um. Do I think North

783
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Korea is going to uh come after us openly anytime soon? No,

784
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: But when you have it, when you as This is

785
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: why I was talking about escape from Camp fourteen yesterday,

786
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: which I do really really recommend to all of you listening.

787
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: It is it's tough reading. He talks about UH needing

788
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: to catch rats to survive because there's a there's a

789
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: protein deficiency that people in the camp would get that

790
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: would cause all these terrible symptoms and you can die from.

791
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: But rats were a necessary literally, catching rats as a

792
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: kid was a necessary source of protein for him. I

793
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: mean the stories you read in this book are they

794
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: will haunt you, they will stay with you. But a

795
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: government that will do that as as systematically to its

796
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: own people is capable of anything. That's why I was

797
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: telling you that yesterday about escape from Camp farteen. That's

798
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: why it's such an important story for Americans to hear

799
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: and to know, because we're not dealing with people making

800
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: decisions here who were going to say, WHOA, we would

801
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: never do that. I mean that would really, that could

802
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: really that's really nasty. That's that would harm a lot

803
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: of innocent people. North Korea doesn't care, doesn't care at all.

804
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: Um Todd in North Carolina on w P T I

805
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: what's going on? Todd? I just wanted to talk about

806
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: North Korea. Man. Basically, what I gotta say is everybody's

807
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: talking about North Korea. But the main sponsor of North

808
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Korea is China, and without China, North Korea would not

809
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: exist from the very gid go. That's the main reason

810
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: we stopped in the Korean War is because of China.

811
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: That's not that's we're not hearing that. That's true. If

812
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: the Chinese hadn't crossed the Yalu River in force and

813
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and come to the aid of the North Koreans, we

814
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: would have a unified Korean peninsula and it would probably

815
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: be a prosperous democracy. We wouldn't have all these problems.

816
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: So it really is. I mean, you're right in drawing

817
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: a direct line to this is on China. I mean

818
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: the fact that we're in the situation room right now.

819
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: But in terms of the leverage that we have, Todd

820
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: and I think this is what you're You're you're going

821
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: for now, um our ability to get the Chinese to

822
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: put do pressure on North Korea to get them to

823
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: stop what they're doing. Uh. That the Chinese are not

824
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: completely aligned with us on this, I mean they're aligned

825
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: to a degree, and they won't be they won't be

826
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: aligned with us. I mean, that's right. I mean, if

827
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: you're China, do you really want do you really want

828
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: a large, populous peninsula that is contiguous to your land

829
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: mass that is a giant pro US military base. I mean,

830
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: that's not what Korea would be if it were unified.

831
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: But to some, to some in the Chinese military leadership,

832
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: I think that's how they would see it. I mean,

833
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: but that that's that's China stick. They're just waving, waiving

834
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: North Korea out there in time they want to do

835
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do. Well, let's weak up freaking

836
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: North Korea. Oh that's right. I mean, nor North Korea

837
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: is a couple of missiples out there, and you're gonna

838
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: forget everything about us. Oh yeah, that's that's exactly what

839
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: we're facing. And then and you don't I mean, I

840
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: understand diplomacy and everything, but all you have to do

841
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: is put the word out there. Just put the word out.

842
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you mean put the word out right?

843
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: You got I mean, you've got people calling them the show,

844
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, talking about North Korea, North Korea, North Korea.

845
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: It's not North Korea without China. And they do not exist.

846
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: They are nothing. They are nothing. They start to death

847
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: in place, that's all they are. I mean, South Korea

848
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: is a foe, right, But we obviously you know that

849
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: all the stuff we talk about when it comes to top,

850
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: when we talk about North Korea and how we have

851
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: all the options on the table, and we could we

852
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: could annihilate North Korea if that became the decision of

853
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the United States government and military. Uh, that's not a

854
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: conver station we want to have about China, right, So

855
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: they are clear there are clear limits to how much

856
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: pressure we can put on China, and I think that

857
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're seeing right now. Look, we got

858
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: these U n. Security Council resolutions through China and Russia

859
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: were okay with them, but they weren't. Yeah, I know

860
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: it's not gonna do anything, but they weren't even as

861
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: strong as they could have been because China and Russia

862
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: said no. And you know what we say, What do

863
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: we say to them? First off, what is the United Nations?

864
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: But a bunch of communists stand in the line, That's

865
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: all They are there waiting to be communists. If they

866
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: mean that, that's a little harsh. They don't think necessarily,

867
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't go that. It's the League of Nations,

868
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: it's the League of name. I know it's a Woodrow

869
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: Wilson invention. No, I get all that, but I mean

870
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm not communists. I mean, we got the Brits are there,

871
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: the Canadians are there. We got we got brothers and

872
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: sisters out of that audience, But Todd I got. We've

873
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: got a couple more calls I want to get to

874
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: and then I want to talk about what happened in

875
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: George Detect last night. So shields high and thank you

876
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: for calling Ted and Florida on w f L. A Hey, Ted,

877
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: how's it going. It's good, sir, Thank you for your call.

878
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what you think of the US

879
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: dropping out of the u N and removing all funding,

880
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: if that would have an effect. It would have an

881
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: effect on the u N for sure, because I think

882
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: they'd be billions of dollars short of what they're used

883
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: to in their budget. And you know, I understand this

884
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: because there's a Americans. We understand that we're not all

885
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: of us, but certainly conservatives and constitutionalists and and a

886
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans, although not all view international government as

887
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: as on its face problematic. You know, it's it's inherently

888
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: fraught with risks to liberty, and so we don't trust

889
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: the u N. I and I understand that. And it's

890
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: set in the second we start being told that there's

891
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna you know, the u N is it wants to

892
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: put election monitors at our elections, and un wants to

893
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: tell us what to do with climate and and we

894
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: feel that dare I say, globalist hand involved in things.

895
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: We have concerns. But the u N on the other

896
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: side of it, it does give us some leverage and

897
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: and open open channels for discussions with countries that are helpful.

898
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: And you know, it's uh, it's kind of man. I mean,

899
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it does as much as people want

900
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: to want to believe that it does. But I also

901
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: think it's a relatively speaking um. The risks of involving

902
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: in the u N are pretty low, and the benefits

903
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: that we get from it are not high. But there

904
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: are some there are some well, I think that you

905
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: know that the last caller said that, you know, he

906
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: thought it was the communist kind of thing. I don't

907
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: see it's communists. It's more socialists. Yeah, I mean communism

908
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: is to communism is now you're talking about a dictatorship

909
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: of the proletariat and a revolutionary committee to oversee the uh,

910
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: the class war and the expansion or the elimination of

911
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: the bourgeoisie and I mean, there's Communism is a pretty

912
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: specific thing and there has to be a a you know,

913
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: we have to be clear about what it really. It's

914
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: not just socialism, right, there's although the original communists, when

915
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: we think of the Soviet Union, refer to themselves as socialists.

916
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: But there are some distinctions that I think are worth

917
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: being made. Although I like calling people a comed just

918
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: as a pejorative, it's kind of fun. But Ted Shields

919
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: time and thank you for the call um. Georgia Tech

920
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: last night, some stuff going on there because of a

921
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: shooting and then there was the verdict in St. Louis,

922
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of unrest recently, or at least a

923
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: lot of reports of unrest, protests and and all that.

924
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about this, this shooting

925
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: in on a college campus in Georgia Tech and how

926
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: it led to protesters fire bombing a police vehicle on campus,

927
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: because when I look at the facts of this, I'm like,

928
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: what are they what are they thinking? What are the protesters?

929
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: But we will get there and also next hour deep

930
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: dive into antifa ideology and history where it comes from.

931
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: I think you will find that to be a worthwhile,

932
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: worthwhile uh, expenditure of our time here on the show.

933
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: UM eight four four eight four five, because back with

934
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: you all team in the Freedom Hunt, and I want

935
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: to talk to you about what happened at Georgia Tech

936
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: last night. I was just getting ready for well, honestly

937
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: is getting ready for bed. I was looking through the

938
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: social media stuff to see what's going on in the world,

939
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: and I saw this photo of a police cruiser that

940
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: was on fire on a college campus. I was like,

941
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: what is going on here? And I remember reading about

942
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: the initial story. For those of you who may not

943
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: know what happened, let me give you a little bit

944
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: of the background then we'll get into what's going on here. UM.

945
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: And it had to do with this individual named Scott

946
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Schultz and or sorry, it's part of me, Scout Schultz.

947
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: UM And what am I getting that wrong? No? Yeah, okay,

948
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Scout Shultz. And I'm looking at the team here to

949
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: make sure I'm not going to mess up the name.

950
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: And he was shot. Although he identified as non binary

951
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: and intersects and preferred the pronouns they and them. Uh,

952
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: this was a twenty one year old male, so I

953
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: will refer to him as a he because they for

954
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: no other reason is a problem because it is plural

955
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: not singular. Uh. And that's just too that's that's too much. Um.

956
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: And look, I know that this person just lost his

957
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: life and this is very serious, but I I am

958
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: struck by how the media has to contort itself to

959
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: try and come up with ways to stay consistent here

960
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: and they can't. It always runs into inconsistency. All right,

961
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: So what happened was that Mr Scout Schultz was had

962
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: a history of mental illness. And it looks at a

963
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: very sad situation. Okay, it's just no matter no matter

964
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: how you look at this, it's it's tragic, and I

965
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: feel really badly for uh. Schultz is family. Um. But

966
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: he was a big proponent or you know, member on

967
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: campus of these different lgbt Q groups, and he was

968
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: walking around camp. He had called in a threat to

969
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: the police that there was somebody walking around with a knife.

970
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: And then and then we have the audio of this,

971
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna hear the actual I don't think

972
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: you'renna hear the momentum, but you're this is what he

973
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: was yelling at the at a police officer, at a

974
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: campus police officer, right before he was shot, but just

975
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: content warning on this because it's it's disturbing stuff. Cops

976
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: are pleading with him drop the knife. He did. He

977
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: had a utility tool in his hand, not actually a knife,

978
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: but I mean a utility tool at night in the dark,

979
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: when someone's been called. When someone he called it in

980
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: himself that there was a person with a knife walk

981
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: around campus. This is what when I was in the

982
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: n y p D, they would call suicide by cop.

983
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: It's I mean, and that's I think the terminology that

984
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: anybody would use. I mean, he was trying to force

985
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: the police to draw it down and shoot him, and

986
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: that is what happened. And it's a tragedy. It's tragedy

987
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: that somebody with this ment, with mental illness would want

988
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: that to happen to to himself. Um would push for

989
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: that to happen. Tragedy for the officer. Officer didn't want it, said,

990
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a campus police officer that day didn't

991
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: want to shoot anybody. Just wants to keep people saving

992
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: go home. There has no interest in shooting some Uh

993
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: we called them in the NYPD and e d P.

994
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: Emotionally disturbed person was the technical term that we used here,

995
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: and so you'd hear reports of an e d P

996
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: and that was not usually a report that the uniformed

997
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: officers that I was kneeling with wanted to take because

998
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: you just never knew. You never you know, an e

999
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: DP could be somebody in the corner who's shaking and

1000
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: crying and wouldn't harm anyone. Or an e DP could

1001
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: be standing on the edge of a roof and trying

1002
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: to grab somebody nearby to jump with him, right, but

1003
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: you just don't know. So, uh, this scout Schultz, this

1004
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: this young man was shot and killed. And then there

1005
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: are all these protests, and the protests last night were well,

1006
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: this is how the Washington Post reported on it. A

1007
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: police cruiser was torch protesters were arrested, and at least

1008
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: one Georgia Tech officer was evacuated by ambulance Monday night,

1009
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: just two days after a student was fatally shot by

1010
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: campus police outside of dormitory building. What are these protesters?

1011
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: What are they protests? And what do they think they're doing?

1012
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I just see this as more of the ideologically driven

1013
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: antique cop animous that you see on the left, which

1014
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: has been this has been pushed by the media so

1015
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: much those who are going to say things like, oh,

1016
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: he didn't have to he did and have to get shot.

1017
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you that even from the the limited

1018
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: training that I've had on these matters, but I have

1019
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: had real training on it. Someone's got a knife and

1020
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: there within uh there within twenty or thirty feet of you,

1021
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: and they want to get to you, and you've all

1022
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: you've got is a side arm, you've got a pistol. Uh.

1023
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: There's a very good chance they're actually gonna be able

1024
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: to stab you before you can put that person down.

1025
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: So someone who is emostly disturbed has a knife and

1026
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: says and is yelling shoot me, shoot me, kill me.

1027
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of it's asking a lot

1028
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: of an officer to put himself for herself in harm's

1029
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: way and not actually fire on the threat. And that

1030
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: is what happens in the team I had talked to you.

1031
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned at least on air that Chelsea

1032
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Manning formerly Bradley Manning, which is now called dead naming

1033
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: when you state that somebody is somebody is uh well,

1034
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: had had a different name at one point. And this

1035
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: is very much looked down upon in left wing circles.

1036
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: But the Chelsea Manning had been invited to be some

1037
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: kind of an adjunct fellow of one kind. I don't

1038
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: know whatever, and fell adjunct fellow. That sounds like a microaggression.

1039
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: An adjunct person, an adjunct human being. Sir, thank you,

1040
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: thank you, but just making sure the team knows that

1041
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: we don't refer to adjunct fellows. I don't know what

1042
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, you know, like the different fellowships, And

1043
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: how are you gonna apply for fellowships now in college

1044
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: camp You're gonna have to apply for like human ships. Um?

1045
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: But okay, so and there was an outcry, including from

1046
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: some four very senior former government officials associated with Harvard,

1047
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: and they left and okay, fine, And Harvard's a big deal.

1048
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: It's like a twenty plus billion dollar endowment, most famous

1049
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: university in the world. People think the most elite university

1050
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: in the world. You know, I know Yale's and Stanford

1051
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: folks are very upset of me right now, but nonetheless

1052
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: they stand ford Ians. I have no what do you

1053
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: call a standard Stanford A Stanfordite stand ford Ian? I

1054
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: have no idea. UM didn't apply to Stanford or anything

1055
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: about it. So okay, So that went away. Yale had

1056
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: to backtrack on that, and they're like, all right, fine,

1057
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: and then Chelsea Manning tweeted out something along the lines of, see,

1058
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: it's a police state because they're not they're not allowing

1059
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: this person to be a fellow at Harvard. Well, being

1060
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: a fellow at Harvard is an elite thing, or at

1061
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: least it's supposed to be. So you would think that

1062
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: because of the competitive nature of it, and also the

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Speaker 1: elevation that occurs to be associated with Harvard. That's why

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Speaker 1: people pay all this money to go to some of

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Speaker 1: these different schools there. Look, I was thinking about going

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Speaker 1: to some of these fancy sounding schools to get an

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Speaker 1: NBA just so somebody would hire me. Right, What what

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00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: are most NBA's I know learning their NBA programs how

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00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: to socialize and drink beer? If they didn't learn that

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Speaker 1: already in college, not a lot of of deepened, uh

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Speaker 1: and rigorous. Well depends on the school, I guess anyway,

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Speaker 1: So Chelsea Manning is no longer going to be a

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Speaker 1: fellow at Harvard because that was one. This is just

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Speaker 1: the last week or two. But there's another story that

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Speaker 1: I think is even more shocking about Harvard and what

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: now diversity really means an academia to the left, And

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Speaker 1: what kinds of virtue signaling and virtue virtue destruction or

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Speaker 1: virtue debasing they are willing to engage in. Right, They

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Speaker 1: virtue signal and that look at us, we're so diverse,

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Speaker 1: we're so great, we're amazing, We're Harvard, and they virtue

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00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: destroy or debased by doing things that make it seem

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Speaker 1: like there's no need to be virtuous right there, there's

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00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: no need to be an honest and ethical person. Harvard

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00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: will still find a job for you if you fit

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Speaker 1: in to a leftist narrative. So there is this uh

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Speaker 1: woman and this is from from decade. This is a

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Speaker 1: decades old case. Her name is and she was just

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Speaker 1: written about a few days ago. The New York Times

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Speaker 1: big piece on her, on her situation, and it's called

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Speaker 1: from Prison of PhD, The Redemption and Rejection of Michelle Jones,

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Speaker 1: and it's really uh, it's supposed to be. The whole

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Speaker 1: piece is about redemption and about how amazing the work

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Speaker 1: she did in prison was. They don't go into much

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Speaker 1: detail about her crime, uh, And they talk about how

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Speaker 1: Harvard University accepted her into their PhD program in American Studies,

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Speaker 1: which I think is under the History Department. So she

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Speaker 1: was accepted into a program that I think accepts like

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Speaker 1: ten out of three applicants. A lot of other people apply,

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Speaker 1: this couldn't get in. They take her, and then they

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Speaker 1: end up not taking her. And and here's what we

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Speaker 1: here's what we find out. Well, for one, Harvard writes

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Speaker 1: a total of in this piece, I think it's two

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Speaker 1: lines about her actual crime. And her crime was that

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Speaker 1: she was a really an a mother who never wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a mother and was completely neglectful and abusive

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Speaker 1: towards her child. And actually, and this is what happened,

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Speaker 1: beat her four year old child to death and left

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Speaker 1: the body to rot and then hid the body and

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Speaker 1: still to this day it has never been found. So

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Speaker 1: that's what she did. And she was sentenced to fifty

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Speaker 1: years in prison for that fifty years, which sounds about

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Speaker 1: right in terms of the sentencing. Some of you would

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Speaker 1: probably understand what more and go to the even the

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Speaker 1: next level. But it was a very a very um

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Speaker 1: heinous crime and it was punished severely. But she got

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Speaker 1: out at for twenty years, and she did some historical research.

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Speaker 1: When we are uh sorry, historical research when she was

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Speaker 1: in uh in the in prison, and what we find

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Speaker 1: out it is that Harvard takes her and then there

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Speaker 1: is a backlash, and the backlash is something like the

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Speaker 1: following quote. We didn't have some preconceived idea about crucifying Michelle,

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Speaker 1: said one of the two American studies professors quote in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times article. But frankly, we knew anyone

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Speaker 1: could just punch her crime into Google and Fox News

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Speaker 1: would probably say that pc liberal Harvard gave two hundred

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Speaker 1: grand of funding to a child murderer who also happened

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Speaker 1: to be a minority. I mean, come on, end quote, Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's because Harvard was about to give two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars of funding to a child murder in a

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Speaker 1: prestigious PhD program. I'm not saying that people aren't allowed

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Speaker 1: to try and find redemption and you've served your debt

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Speaker 1: to society and all that. I understand all that, I

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Speaker 1: get it, But this was a heinous crime, and Harvard's

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Speaker 1: PhD program is not a you know, a simple job

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Speaker 1: that allows someone to just sort of feed themselves. And

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Speaker 1: I would also note that any of these sanctimonious liberals

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Speaker 1: at Harvard or anywhere else, who would take somebody who

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Speaker 1: has a criminal background? Would they take somebody who was

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Speaker 1: accused of sexual I'm sorry, who was guilty of sexual assault.

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Speaker 1: Would the Stanford swimmer who got a few months sentence

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Speaker 1: for his sexual assault that was a huge story across

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Speaker 1: the country if he did some really interesting research, you

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Speaker 1: think Harvard would take him? Never mind even so many

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Speaker 1: first serious crime. Do you think Harvard would take a

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Speaker 1: student who had been expelled previously for plagiarism? No, of

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: course not now that's that's too much so now in

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Speaker 1: Harvard's PhD program. I just want to understand their ethical

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Speaker 1: limitations here, their ethical limits. They won't take a plagiarist,

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Speaker 1: but they'll take a child murderer. And then they get all,

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Speaker 1: you know, angry about it when people point out that

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01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: that's a bit strange, isn't it. It's not just strange,

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Speaker 1: it's up two. So it's disgusting, and Harvard is among

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Speaker 1: many institutions here that really needs a reality check, aren't team.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Freedom Hut. We've got a lot

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Speaker 1: to discuss today, including the continue to fall out from

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Speaker 1: some of those breaking news stories that I was able

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Speaker 1: to tell you about on air yesterday, Manafort being told

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Speaker 1: at least a cording to reports that he may be indicted. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've got a a lawyer and analyst and all around

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Speaker 1: patriot veteran here to join us to talk about all this.

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Speaker 1: David French is with us. He's a senior writer for

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Speaker 1: National View, an attorney, and a veterative Operation Rocky Freedom.

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Speaker 1: He's got a piece up on National review dot com.

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Speaker 1: Menaphort to be indicted was Trump Tower wire tap. First

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Speaker 1: thoughts on two big scoops, Mr French, Great to have

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Speaker 1: you back. Well, thanks so much for having me. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it all right. First thoughts on the two scoops

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Speaker 1: are Rocky Road and min Chocolate Chips. Sorry, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: bad Joe. Well this would be a taste here to scoops.

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Speaker 1: These these are pretty grim. Uh you know, looked at

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Speaker 1: the two the two things quickly or that looks there now.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times reported that that investigators told Manafort

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Speaker 1: Mueller's investigators told Manafort he was likely to be indicted.

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Speaker 1: And then there's CNN scoop that apparently Manafort was subject

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Speaker 1: to FISA warrant at two separate occasions, one starting around

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Speaker 1: another one starting again in the middle of the campaign,

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Speaker 1: and went into some point this year. And guess what

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Speaker 1: may have resulted in conversations between Manafort and Trump being recorded.

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Speaker 1: We don't know that, but it may have happened. So

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Speaker 1: both of those things are both interesting and disturbing Manafort. Now,

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Speaker 1: I told people about those breaking stories yesterday on air,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering, as as we've all been able

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Speaker 1: to look a bit more at the sourcing on all

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Speaker 1: of this and the context of the reporting, how worried

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Speaker 1: do you think Manafort should be right now? If if

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Speaker 1: you're in his shoes? Are are you losing some sleep

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Speaker 1: over this at this point, I'm not sleeping at all

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Speaker 1: if i'm if I'm Manaport at this point. Um, you know, look,

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Speaker 1: his house is rated. Um, that's pretty well established. The

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Speaker 1: sourcing on the New York Times story does not seem

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Speaker 1: to be coming from the Mueller camp. It seems to

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Speaker 1: be coming from um. It seems to be coming from

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Speaker 1: perhaps attorneys or witnesses who have been subject to the

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Speaker 1: investigation so far. Uh So it seems relatively solid in

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Speaker 1: a raid like the one that was that was launched

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Speaker 1: on on Manafort's home is not something that's just casually done. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that given what we know about Manifort,

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Speaker 1: given his long history of foreign quite tangled foreign relationships,

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Speaker 1: I would be very worried if I were him. Now

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Speaker 1: it's really important to say this. When I say, if

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Speaker 1: I'm Paul Maniford, I'm very worried, that's not the same

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Speaker 1: thing as saying therefore, he's going to be indicted for

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Speaker 1: colluding with Russia in this election. Um. One thing that's

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Speaker 1: pretty clear about the coverage so far is that it

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Speaker 1: looks like Mueller is investigating financial transactions that may have

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the sixteen election. So when I

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Speaker 1: say he may be indicted or i'm I'm I have

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Speaker 1: sleepless nights if I were him, that's primarily what I'm

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Speaker 1: referring to. Yeah, And and this is I find this

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Speaker 1: troubling because if the investigation is about Russia collusion and

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Speaker 1: they just decide that they're going to do a deep

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Speaker 1: dive into Maniforts taxes and they don't find anything having

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Speaker 1: to do with Russia, necessarily, is that justice really being served?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, but it's not really what's supposed

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Speaker 1: to happen here. It's not really the purpose of these

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Speaker 1: extraordinary prosecutorial and investigative powers that have been gathered together

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Speaker 1: by Muller. Well, you know, if you're going to be

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Speaker 1: investigating ties to Russia and collusion with Russia, one of

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Speaker 1: the first things you're gonna do is you're going to

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Speaker 1: be starting to lift rocks to see if there's anything

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Speaker 1: financial that would give some sort of financial motive. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily bothered that, uh, that Mueller might be

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Speaker 1: finding financial crimes and prosecuting financial crimes. That the problem

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Speaker 1: that I see is I can easily see a world

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Speaker 1: in which financial crimes are found and then that is

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Speaker 1: termed in the court of a public opinion into some

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Speaker 1: sort of conclusive alligant or an allegation that that that

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Speaker 1: collusion occurred or that the administration is illegitimate. We've got

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Speaker 1: to be really careful about what the facts are here,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, what if anything, that the Special

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Speaker 1: Council finds. But as a as a general matter, if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're looking under rocks to see links with

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Speaker 1: foreign powers and you discover criminal activity, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem with prosecuting Yeah, I just don't like the

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Speaker 1: I R S. But I know, I know, and you're

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Speaker 1: a lawyer and you know the law. I get it.

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Speaker 1: But I'll just you know, I had to pay my

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Speaker 1: estimated taxes for the last quarter or so. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to particularly foul moved when it comes to the revenue

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Speaker 1: service in this country. But I digress. Um, David, I

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Speaker 1: want to switch gears a little with you. We're speaking

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Speaker 1: to David French, senior writer for National Review. He's got

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Speaker 1: another piece up on National review dot com, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite sites to defeat campus craziness. Don't just treat symptoms,

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Speaker 1: cure the disease. We're talking about about Antifa and campus

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Speaker 1: craziness in the next hour. But how do we cure

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Speaker 1: of the disease? Yeah, well, you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest problems with the camp with the campus is the gatekeepers.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you have campuses that are set up

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Speaker 1: from ground up that are biased in favor of progressives

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Speaker 1: and radical progressives. So if you're a conservative faculty member,

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Speaker 1: you have very little chance, especially in the humanities or

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Speaker 1: social sciences, of getting a fair shake. Admissions committees for

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Speaker 1: colleges are in many subtle ways biased against conservative students,

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Speaker 1: especially religiously conservative students, And so what ends up happening

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Speaker 1: is you get these environments that are overwhelmingly progressive, just overwhelmingly,

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Speaker 1: and then we say, oh, well, look at that radical

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Speaker 1: professor or this group of radical students, let's do something

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Speaker 1: about them. Well, you're just going to be playing whackamole

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Speaker 1: with these radicals unless we can begin to reform the

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Speaker 1: very process that turns these these institutions of higher education

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Speaker 1: into ideological cartoons and ideal logical bubbles. And it's a

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Speaker 1: tall order, but I'm just trying to warn people that

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about what's happening on campus, the problem

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Speaker 1: isn't just a few radicals. The problem isn't a weird

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Speaker 1: professor here and there. The problem is a system that's

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Speaker 1: built from the ground up to be biased in favor

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Speaker 1: of one point of view. I like to tell people

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Speaker 1: this because they don't believe me, and then I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I can. I can actually point you to the literature

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Speaker 1: at my own college, Amorous, which is not considered radical

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Speaker 1: along the same lines as as like Read College and

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Speaker 1: Oregon or Oberlin, or there's something Wesleyan which I love

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Speaker 1: to pick on love to make fun of Wesleyan UM.

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Speaker 1: But at Amer's there were more socialists slash Marxist, slashed

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Speaker 1: anarchists on the faculty in the humanities than there were

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Speaker 1: open Republicans. That was a fact. Oh absolutely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would say at schools of amorous quality UM all

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Speaker 1: around the country, that is a general rule, is going

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Speaker 1: to be absolute fact. When I was at Harvard Law School,

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Speaker 1: the number of people who are these sort of neo

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Speaker 1: Marxist critical legal study scholars, they were. They They were

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Speaker 1: not the majority of the faculty, but they were enough

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Speaker 1: to where they set the dominant tone in the faculty.

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Speaker 1: And I could count on the fingers less than half

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Speaker 1: the fingers in one hand the number of actual Republican

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Speaker 1: faculty members when I was there. I mean, the disparities,

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Speaker 1: just if people un fully understood the disparities, that would

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 1: blow their minds. I mean, when we say ideological cortoon

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: or ideological bubble, we mean it. And one more thing,

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Speaker 1: David before we let you go, and imatu to check

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Speaker 1: out David's pieces up on National Review dot com. Talks

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: about both the big bombshells from yesterday in the news

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01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: cycle with Manafort and the Russia collusion investigation, and also

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01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: campus craziness stuff, which we'll be getting into more detail

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Speaker 1: in the next hour. I'm gonna give you a deep

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: dive on Antifa ideology coming up here. But David, I

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01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: think one surprise for some folks, and I put myself

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01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: in the not surprise but a little like on this

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: is that the left hasn't really more. They haven't uh

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Speaker 1: pushed back against this shutdown speech mentality and even Antifa

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: itself as much as I would think they would have

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: at this point, given the behavior at Berkeley, given the

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01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: attack against um Charles Murray at Middlebury, They're not really

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01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: distancing distancing themselves from this as much as I kind

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: of thought they would have to. Well, there was some

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: distancing going on, and you see an increasing number of

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: professors speaking up her progressive professors and worried about free speech.

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: But then something happened a few a couple of months

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: ago that really put a screeching halt to this and

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: gave Antifa a lot of credibility. And that thing is Charlottesville.

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01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: And so when that when the car you know, the

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Speaker 1: car terror attack happened in Charlottesville, you had this weird

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01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: response which wasn't just how horrible that terror attack was

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: and how evil that terror attack was, but then they

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:00,520
Speaker 1: also began to lionize at least some people members of Antifa.

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, do you know remember seeing they were they

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: were compared to the soldiers who stormed the beaches at Normandy.

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was one of the most

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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: appalling memes I've seen in widespread usage. Ever. Oh it

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 1: was stunning. So uh, yeah, they were beginning to distance

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01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: themselves some some folks, and a lot of fair minded

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: folks were, and a lot of fair minded folks still are.

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01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: But what will really depress you is if you go,

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01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: if you follow, say, for example, Megan mccartle on Twitter

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01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: wrote a really thoughtful piece against Antifa, and you see

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01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: the reaction that that piece has gotten, where people are saying, yes,

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: I believe I should I should have the ability and

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: the right to punch in in in foot physical violence,

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01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: and people who disagree with me. The number of people

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: who believe this, and in one of these um one

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01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: of these surveys, believe the very survey're referring to is

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Speaker 1: up to nineteen percent of students agreed that you could

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01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: use violence to shut down to We're going to get

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: it up a little more the next hour. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's astonishing, is of David. I mean you you

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: would think that this This is like when people are

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: going around doing the polling in some foreign countries about

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you don't really support Osama bin

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: Laden al Qaida, right, I mean we're looking for nose there,

1341
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: but you get like eight or nine percent in some

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: countries that are like no, you know, bin Lan is

1343
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 1: not so bad, Like wow, I'm not supposed to say that,

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: but that's kind of the way it is on college

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: campuses here with punching speakers, you don't like. I think

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: we're all expecting that everyone in a college campus is

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01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: supposed to say no, but they're not. Um, David French,

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: everybody on Nashal Review, David's thanks so much for making

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01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: the time to demand. Great to have you on. Thanks

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. Uh, team, we're gonna

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: talk about Antifa, A deep dive on Antifa ideology coming up,

1352
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: as well as that poll that David mention. Will give

1353
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: you some more details on that and also advice for

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01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: for college age people that the left does not want

1355
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: you to hear and then my advice about napping all

1356
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 1: that coming up. You know, they show up in the

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01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: helmets of the black masks and they've got clubs, so

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: they've got everything and defa and defa. Ah. Yes, there

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01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: you have Trump talking about antifa. That was that the

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: rally in Arizona some weeks ago. But antifa has become

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: a term that a lot of folks that read the

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: news or paying attention on what's going on social media,

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01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: we've all become pretty familiar with it, at least we

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01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: hear it right, Antifa anti fascism. And the left is

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: trying very hard to both create the perception that they

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01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 1: don't buy into Antifa, while also maintaining that, you know,

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: ultimately that they kind of agree with antifa, right, so

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: they they don't necessarily want to go along with antifa's tactics,

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: but it's ideology is somehow necessary. This is because the

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: left wing base is largely sympathetic to antifa, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: Antifa is a part of the left wing base in

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Speaker 1: this country and in the Democrat Party. Uh, there was

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: a video that you may have seen, and it's it's

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: pretty troubling. It's Antifa using this was just posted today

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01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: using social media to track down a guy in Seattle. Look,

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01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: he's an idiot, Okay, he's wearing and he's wearing a

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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: swastika arm band. He does seem to be holding himself

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 1: up as a neo Nazi, which is a disgrace and

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: is pathetic as well as horrific. But that doesn't mean

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01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: you get to punch somebody. And this is where Antifa

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: becomes a problem for the rest of us. They think

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01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: that they are allowed to engage in physical violence against

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01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: people if they don't like their belief system. They can

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01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: destroy property, they can shout and shut down speech that

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: they don't like by acting up, by throwing what is

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: essentially a tantrum, and that that they have an obligation

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: to hunt down people that they don't like what they

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: say or they don't like what they stand for, and

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: attack them physically, I mean to break the law. And

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: they're open about this. They said that violence is necessary.

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01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: Violence is not, in the case of Antifa, a an

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: accident or the choice that is made by some faction

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: within the broader movement. These Antifa groups are specifically trying

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01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: to find so called Nazis to punch. In this case,

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: somebody actually wearing a Nazi armband and to engage in

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01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: Nazi punching. I refuse to do what the left does

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01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: and just focus on the most superficial talking points and

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01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: engage in mockery of political opponents without understanding, right, this

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: is what the left does. They just say that everyone

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: on the right is bigoted and racist and dumb and misogynistic.

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01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: I actually try to spend some time getting to know

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: what is it that the left thinks it is accomplishing here?

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: What do they really believe? And so I have been

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Speaker 1: reading and am soon to finish uh some thing called Antifa,

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01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: the Anti Fascist Handbook by a a former Occupy Wall

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Speaker 1: Street organizer, which I'm going to return to this in

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: a moment, because I've been telling you all along that

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Speaker 1: this is just a rebranding of Occupy Wall Street, which

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: was just a rebranding of the anarchist anti w t

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01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 1: O protests in Seattle, and Black Lives Matter is merely

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01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: a faction from within that same leftist protests movement that

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01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: existed long before Mike Brown and Ferguson and all of

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01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: that happened. I saw the seeds of everything that's happening

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Speaker 1: today with Antifa in the Occupy Wall Street movement. In fact,

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: I wrote a book about it. It was an e

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01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: book called Occupy American Spring. I attended every one of

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Speaker 1: the major Occupy Wall Street rallies in New York City,

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: including some that got quite violent and destructive with black

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01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: block people in attendance, which is just Antifa before or

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01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: calling themselves that. And I was there the night that

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01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: Zukkati Park was cleared out and there was a lot

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01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: of screaming and uh people getting wrestled to the ground,

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: and it was a mess. But I've seen the slogans before,

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01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: I've seen the rhetoric before, and so it was really

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 1: interesting to me having covered Occupy Wall Streets so closely

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01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: in person here in New York City and then seeing

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01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: that it is an Occupy Wall Street organizer from New

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: York named Mark Bray who has taken it upon himself

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01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: to right a serious and I give credit where it's due,

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01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: it's a serious attempt to explain the ideology of Antifa

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01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: from an incredibly sympathetic and pro Antifa perspective. But at

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01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: least it's not just some semiliterate clown who is spewing

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01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: slogans without doing any research and having any real understanding

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: of the underlying political philosophy of antifa. So here's what

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: here's what I think you should know from this Antifa

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: the Anti Fascist Handbook, which I've said I will uh.

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm honest with you about what I've read and have

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01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: and I'm almost finished with it. I I will be

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01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: done with it either tomorrow the next day, depending on

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01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: my reading schedule. I'm also spending some time getting deeper

1441
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: into some books on North Korea. I'm also researching for

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01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: a La Panto Battle show that we're gonna be doing

1443
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 1: in October, because the overwhelming consensus from all of you

1444
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: is that you really like the history deep dives I had.

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01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: I had one one person telling me don't do that,

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01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: and then I don't know a hundred or two hundred

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01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: telling me that they love it. So we're gonna do

1448
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: a little more, although what format remains to be seen,

1449
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: but there will be more history deep Dives coming your

1450
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: way from the Freedom HUD. But back to Mark Bray

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01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: and this book, Antifa the Anti Fascist Handbook, I give

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01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: him credit. This was an honest from the perspective of

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01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: a partisan right from from an anti fass supporter This

1454
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: was an honest attempt to explain what this movement is. Uh,

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01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: he is a partisan, he's not objective, but at least

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01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: he's writing about this in a way that there's something.

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01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: You know. Usually with these movements, they would say, oh,

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01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: we don't have an ideology. Oh this is it's all decentralized, delocalized.

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01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: That's a dodge. Just with Occupy Wall Street, they were organizers.

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01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: There was money involved in some of you are like

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01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: sorrows money, but there's money involved. Of course, there is.

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01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: Somebody has to pay for those shiny placards that they

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01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: show up with at these uh these protests. But here's something,

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: here's some background on this movement that is now in

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: the news frequently. It's in the news today because they

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01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: found they someone saw and it was pretty amazing because

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01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: you can almost follow this in real time via the tweets.

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01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: In Seattle, which is obviously a very left wing place,

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01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: someone saw an individual with a swastika arm band on

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01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: tweeted out with the location and direction of that person,

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01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: and then people showed up, tweeted out more, tweeted out more.

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01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,799
Speaker 1: They track this guy down who had a swastic armband

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01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: and punched him in the face. Now, who could be

1474
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: so stupid and inflammatory and just idiotic on every level.

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: As to where a swastic arm band ever is beyond me.

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01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: But to where when in Seattle is like begging to

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01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: get punched in the face in a sense. But just

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01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: because somebody is an idiot doesn't mean you get to

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Speaker 1: hit them. This is the core problem of so called

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Speaker 1: Nazi punching. But you had a big incident of Nazi

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Speaker 1: punching today, just as you had that viral moment where

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01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: Richard Spencer, the alt right nationalist who gets so much

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: attention because the media wants him to get so much attention,

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01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: he got punched in the face and that went viral

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: as well. So Antifa is with us right now as

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01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: a movement, and it is going to be vying with

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01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter for supremacy in the militant left vanguard. Right.

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01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: This is these are the militant left political movements in

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: the country right now, and Antifa tries to bring others

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01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: under its tent, so to speak, whereas Black Lives Matter.

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01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: It can be a part of these different protests, can

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: be a part of these political these political movements on

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01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 1: the left, but also as a standalone but I'm getting

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01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: a little ahead of myself here. So here's what you

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: learn from the Antifa handbook. Um, it is a transnational

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01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: political movement and they take very seriously. And I think

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01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: this is the most important takeaway from this anti fascist handbook,

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01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: which you can get on Amazon by the way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to give money this

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01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: guy or not, that's up to you. I mean, I

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: this is something that I deal with when I read

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: leftist books. I'm like, is there a way I can

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01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: get it from a library because I don't really want

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01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: to put money in their pockets necessarily, but I also

1505
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: need to know what the other side is thinking and saying.

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: So it's transnational. Uh. They take seriously, and this is

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01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: the key point. They take seriously that they are dealing

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01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: with Nazi movements. They don't just say Nazi because they're

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01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: trying to smear although that is a real effect of

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01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:07,440
Speaker 1: what's happening. They believe, or at least they publicly proclaimed

1511
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: to believe, that they are combating Nazi movements in their infancy.

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01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: They're not pretending that Hitler is about to or a

1513
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: version of Hitler is about to take over America tomorrow.

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01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: Although they say that Trump is a fascist, but they

1515
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: are saying that if they don't literally punch Nazis today

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01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: in the mouth, tomorrow we could be in the middle

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01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: of a fascist a fascist inspired or fascist directed you know, uh, totalitarianism,

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: another holocaust, all the great terrors of the twentieth century

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01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: revisited upon us. Now you may be saying, I mean,

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01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: that's the most ridiculous thing ever, Buck, and I would

1521
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 1: agree with you. But this is what they say. Just

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01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: like with jihadists and how I try to understand their

1523
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: belief system, I also want to understand. You know. Yeah,

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01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: I can sit here too and talk about how they're

1525
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: a bunch of filthy, dumb hippies. They don't know anything.

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: I know, these are actually nice and peaceful and like music.

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: But these are a bunch of of brats from you know,

1528
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: from wealthy suburbs of a lot of cities in New York.

1529
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: They're in their late twenties and thirties. They're little pretend

1530
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: petty revolutionaries, but really they're all getting rides and their

1531
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: parents BMWs do these things. I mean, I can say

1532
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: all that too, and I'm not saying that's not true.

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01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Let's look at what they say they believe,

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01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: so we have an understanding of what the appeal is

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: to youngish it's really millennials. It's not young people, it's

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01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: people that are in their twenties, late twenties and early thirties.

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01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: From what we see so far, let's see what they believe.

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01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: They say that they are stopping Nazism, and they explicitly

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: endorse violence, and in this book, in this anti fascist handbook,

1540
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: that is clear their violence is not a bug, it

1541
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: is a feature of antifa um. They also believe that

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01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 1: fascism Nazism did not die in they reject that historical narrative.

1543
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: So there's historiography at work here too. There's a fighting

1544
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: over history with this movement. And they will say that

1545
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: fascism is murky, but fascism is a know when you

1546
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,520
Speaker 1: see it phenomenon, and it's largely a cult of personality.

1547
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: It's based on the cult of personality. And they believe

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01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: that Nazis don't get to say anything. They don't believe

1549
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: in just counter speech. They don't believe in you can

1550
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: say what you want, I can say what I want

1551
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: in the marketplace of ideas. No, No, they believe in

1552
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: active silencing and violent destructive measures to achieve that because

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01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: in their minds they also think as completely disconnected from

1554
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: reality as this is that they are the best last

1555
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: hope of defending, you know, human kind against the rise

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01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: of Nazism on the right. Now, one of the big

1557
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: problems you run into in this book is that they believe,

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01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: or according to Mark Bray who's this I guess de

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01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: facto historian of Antifa, that socialism, anarchism, and communism are

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01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: ideological opponents of fascism, when in reality it's not that

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01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: they are at polar opposite ends of the spectrum. History

1562
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: showed us, and this is true when you look at

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01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: the rise of communism and fascism in in Germany leading

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01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: up to the period of the Third Reich. This is

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: the reality of uh the fight between communism and socialism

1566
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: and the various adherence to it in revolution era Russia.

1567
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a rewriting of history that is

1568
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: very essential for us to understand because the left wants

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01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: to believe that socialists are the anti fascists, when in

1570
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: reality socialists and fascists were vying for the same recruits

1571
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: in the twenty century share many of the same ideological underpinnings.

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01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,879
Speaker 1: The notion of collective is m and he actually mentions

1573
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: collective defense in his talk about violence in this book.

1574
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: But collectivism is at the heart of fascism. It's just

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01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: in the case of socialism. And it depends on the

1576
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: on the flavor are we're talking about communism. Is there

1577
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: a dictatorship of the proletariat involved here? Is there a

1578
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 1: revolutionary committee, a central committee, uh, that is in charge

1579
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: of this this class warfare against the bourgeoisie, And you know,

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01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: you get into all these different flavors of what is collectivism.

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01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,839
Speaker 1: You see, what's different about the way we approach politics

1582
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: and the way that these individuals approach politics is that

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01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: we believe in individual rights and that that is the

1584
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: basis of the state. They believe in collective rights. They

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: believe in collective approaches to all social problems, and that

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01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: the collective whatever is decided by either the mob as

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01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: the collective or the elites in charge of doing the

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01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: best they can for the mob, that overrides individual rights.

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01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: You see, they reject by their nature. Antifa rejects our Constitution,

1590
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: rejects our First Amendment, rejects our Bill of Rights. And

1591
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: when you understand their ideology as I do from both

1592
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 1: covering Occupy Wall Street but also now reading uh, this

1593
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: somewhat serious scholarly attempt to explain Antifa. Um, you have

1594
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: a much better understanding of why it is that one

1595
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: this group has some appeal to people on the left

1596
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: because they have been brainwashed into thinking by the media

1597
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: and others that Trump really is a fascist and too

1598
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: how we need to come back this to just say

1599
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: that they're idiots and you know they're dumb and oh no, no,

1600
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: they are tapping into some very mainstream sentiments. Antifa taps

1601
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: into mainstream leftist sentiments about defense of people from racism, sexism, homophobia.

1602
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: They say that in fact, racism, sexism, and homophobia and

1603
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: xenophobia are the bedrock of fascism. Now that's a historical,

1604
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because you can see how there's

1605
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: a merger that is occurring here, a merger of different

1606
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: leftist groups all under the Antifa banner. Antifa are the

1607
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: militants of the Democratic Party. That's what they are. When

1608
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 1: you read the handbook, when you look at their literature,

1609
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: When you've spent time talking to and covering these groups,

1610
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: as I have, you see exactly what's going on here.

1611
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: This is not just about Antifa, I should note, and

1612
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: if you wanted the Anti Fascist Handbook by Mark Bray,

1613
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: you're not gonna like it. But if you want to

1614
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: understand the enemy, you might want to spend some time

1615
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 1: reading it. It's up to you, but I read it

1616
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: for you so I can tell you a better here

1617
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: on the show. This is a much bigger problem than

1618
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 1: just these groups of uh black clad want to be revolutionary,

1619
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: want to be paramilitaries running around the streets. This has

1620
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: spread to mainstream campus thought. I'll get into that right

1621
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: after the break. Hey, so I team, I know we

1622
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: were just talking about anti faz ideology, and I was

1623
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: trying to walk you through some of the core points

1624
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: of what it is that these people that dress in

1625
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: black uniforms where masks, uh, carry around shields and other

1626
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 1: weapons and and pick people out and attack them for

1627
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: their ideas, not in self defense. Uh. But I wanted

1628
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: to make the point that they are not uh, They're

1629
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: not operating in a vacuum. There are many more people

1630
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: that are sympathetic to their point of view that I

1631
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: think the general public, or that certainly then the media

1632
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: wants anyone to realize. Here is what this This Washington

1633
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: Post and and this has been getting a lot of

1634
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: talk today. This Washington Post peace that where they did

1635
01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: a poll of college age students. They asked them this question.

1636
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: One in five respondents say using violence to disrupt a

1637
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: controversial speaker is acceptable. Uh, this is astonishing. So the

1638
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: question was, a public university invites a very controversial speaker

1639
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: to an on campus event. The speaker is known for

1640
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: making offensive and hurtful statements. A student group opposed to

1641
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: the speaker uses violence to prevent the speaker from speaking.

1642
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree that the students actions are acceptable?

1643
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: This is what David mentioned before, and I wanted to

1644
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,879
Speaker 1: give you the actual stats. Agree that attacking a speaker

1645
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: on campus that you don't like? People would agree with that,

1646
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: And you had thirty percent of males. Uh in this survey,

1647
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: we're in the agreed category female. Um. And then this

1648
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: is also this is trouble democrats. I'm sorry Democrats and

1649
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: Republicans said this. Now, we haven't seen any Republicans trying

1650
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: to stop speech on campus. We certainly haven't seen it

1651
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: in the same numbers and frequency that it's been happening

1652
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: on the other side, but that Republican number needs to

1653
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: be zero. I kind of want to find I wish

1654
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I could find where these campuses were across the country

1655
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: and go and you know, I know it's an anonymous

1656
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: survey and this is against spirit of the whole thing.

1657
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: But I want to sit down with any Republican and

1658
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: be like, no, no, no, no, no no, we leave

1659
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: that to the crazy left wing. Well we we don't

1660
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: do that on the right. That's not how this goes.

1661
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: We believe in individual rights, individual freedom, and liberty. Yeah,

1662
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: they take the term liberal, but they don't mean it.

1663
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: It's a misnumber, it's a falsehood. Don't play their game,

1664
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: don't fall into the trap. Violence against speech is absolutely

1665
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: never the answer, and it's it was just troubling to

1666
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: see this. Although I wonder it's Democrats because in the

1667
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 1: in the other parts the survey, it's so the Democrats

1668
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: are much more likely to shout down speakers and feel

1669
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: much more accepting of their emotions, dictating what is allowable

1670
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: and not allowable speech. But anyway, this is the washing post. Uh. Advice.

1671
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I want to get to advice coming up here in

1672
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: just a few moments. That is now being challenged on

1673
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: the left. I think, because well, it's exactly the sort

1674
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: of stuff they don't want to hear. They don't want

1675
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: people to hear. We'll be back with that more. Hey,

1676
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, back with you. Now. I know that this

1677
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: is not a This is not a self help show, right.

1678
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: I don't come in here and and tell you to,

1679
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, I don't know, avoid dead at all costs,

1680
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: pay cash for everything, make a list of things to

1681
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: do during the week, don't procrastinate. There's lots of stuff

1682
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: out there with all that, but I do occasionally, when

1683
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: I feel strongly about something, try to uh share a

1684
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,879
Speaker 1: bit of a bit of Buck wisdom on something, particularly

1685
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 1: for our millennial audience, because we have a lot lot

1686
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: of folks listening across the country who are younger than

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Speaker 1: I am, which is great and I am very very honored.

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01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: We even got folks at the at the level of

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01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: undergrads on campus that listened to this show. So when

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01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: I pass along some some little nuggets of of Buck wisdom, um,

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01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: I hope that it's useful to them. So recently we

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01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: have that article, I think it was in the Wall

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01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Street Journal about young women in college and just smart

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01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: guidelines for them. This isn't a return to the Stone Age,

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01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: this isn't the Handmaid's Tail. This is just, hey, don't

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01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: get super drunk. Don't allow yourself to be alone with

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01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: a guy when you're super drunk that you don't know.

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01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: Demand that somebody actually take you out on a date

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01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: and get to know you. I mean basic stuff, but

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01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: really good stuff. And I can tell you these are

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01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: things that I was never well, I'm not a young woman,

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01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: but when I was on campus, I never heard this.

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01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of stuff about resources for the

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: uh lgbt Q community, and a lot of stuff about

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01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: diversity training and a lot but and and also there

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01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: was a lot of discussion of sexual assault resources on

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01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: campus that's been around for quite some time. But no,

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01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: at no point in time did they have an upper classman,

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01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: which I think would have been really would have had

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01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: real impact. They never had an upper classman sit down

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01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: with the freshman, which I should note I forgot about

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01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,799
Speaker 1: this yesterday. Yale got rid of freshman because it's offensive.

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01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 1: They don't want to trigger people, don't trigger us. So

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01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: now it's first year. They've now gotten rid of freshman.

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01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: It's now first year, second year, third year, fourth year.

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01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: Uh so there is that they will not change the

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01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: name though, and I will I will not let Yale

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01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: slip out of this one. It'll ie who Yale was

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01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: a slave trader. Yale University with its multi multi billion

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01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: dollar endowment, his name for a slave trader. So all

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01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: the PC crap that they pull until they get rid

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01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: of the name is just for show. Getting rid of

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01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: the name would really hurt, though, because these schools are

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01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: all about name recognition. But I digress. So the advice

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01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: was good, I thought in that Wall Street Journal piece

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01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 1: for young women, particularly young women on campus, I wish

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01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: that it was required reading for every high school senior

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01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: on her way to college across the country, because they're

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01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna get inundated with drink. Drink, drink, do whatever you

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01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: know makes you popular. Uh, you can drink as much

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01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: as guys. I mean. One of the problems we have

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01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 1: with the breakdown of of gender norms, which has been

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01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: a project to the left for a long time. And

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01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: you can go back to Angles and his writing on this,

1735
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, marks and angles. Angles was all about how

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01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: class structure and family structure is inherently oppressive and women

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01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 1: or it's like a form of servitude. And maybe we'll

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01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: get into that in some detail another time, if if

1739
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: you want a deep dive on marks and angles and

1740
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Marxist or angles desire to really destroy the family as

1741
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: we know it. And they're like, wait a second, that's better.

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01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: The notion of destroying the traditional family is quite old.

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01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh yes it is. It has been with us for

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01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: for a while. But women don't get told these things,

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01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 1: and they're not told that men biologically Oh my gosh,

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01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: don't say it can usually not every time I know

1747
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: there's something, there's plenty of ladies listen to this right now.

1748
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: We're like, buck, I will drink you under the table.

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01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 1: And that is accurate. But biologically speaking, men are larger, heavier,

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01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and more able to process alcohol. And so when women

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01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: try to keep up, when young women try to keep

1752
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: up with the guys on campus, they get blackout drunk.

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01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: Bad things happen, all right, So I think that's really

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01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: important advice. You know, my little sister is now has

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01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: now graduated from law school, and she's a wonderful young woman.

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01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more proud of her. If she were eighteen,

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01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I would have smacked. I mean she doesn't need you know,

1758
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: I need her help now like days, I need some

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01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 1: advice because she's a lawyer. But if you were eighteen again,

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01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: I would have smacked that editorial down on the table

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01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: in front of her and said, read this before you

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01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: go to college. Although she was very mature and I

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01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about her. Uh. Now I see

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01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: another instance of this, and this is by you know,

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01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Heather McDonald, who we've had on the show many times,

1766
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: who is a Manhattan Institute scholar, and she's pointing out

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01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: that what are called bourgeois norms are now offensive. And

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01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 1: you're like, well, buck, bourgeois was with the fancy What's

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01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: what the fancy friends were? A French word? Why why

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01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: we gotta call it bourgeois? Nor what they mean by

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01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: that are Well, let me tell you. Here's Heather's peace

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01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, and this goes under that

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01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: category of good advice for everybody. But it's advice that

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01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:50,440
Speaker 1: the intelligencia no longer wants Americans to hear. It's I bigoted, unfair, prejudicial,

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01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Here, Well, we'll pick out a few

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01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: of them. Here's what she writes to the list of

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01:39:55,600 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 1: forbidden ideas on American college campuses and bourgeois on norms

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01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: which are This is now we get into what those

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01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 1: norms are, hard work, self discipline, marriage, and respect for authority.

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01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Last month, to law professors published an op ed in

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01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Inquirer calling for a revival of the cultural

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01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: script that prevailed in the nineteen fifties and still does

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01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: among affluent Americans. Get married before you have children and

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01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 1: strive to stay married for their sake, Get the education

1785
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: you need for gainful employment, work hard, and avoid idleness,

1786
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: a shoe, substance, abuse, and crime. The weakening of these

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01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: traditional norms has contributed today's low rates of workforce participation,

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01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: lagging educational levels, and widespread opioid abuse, The professors argued,

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Speaker 1: Now she goes into how this op ed. Those are

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01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward and universal concepts. Right, get married before you

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01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: have kids, stay married when you have kids, get an

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01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: education that will let you get a good job, work hard,

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01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: don't be idle, don't drink too much, don't break the law.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Really, it's really sound advice. It is really

1795
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: really good advice. And I just see the the subtle,

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01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: slow moving devastation within my peer group of people who

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01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: have bought into this. You know, yeah, you know, I'm

1798
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: just gonna drink, and I'm gonna keep drinking and lots

1799
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: of drinking, and maybe some drugs here and there too,

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01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: and drinking and drugs and drinking and drugs. And they

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01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: don't realize the long term effect that it is having

1802
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: on them, that they are not where they would otherwise

1803
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: be in their careers and their personal lives, that it

1804
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: is actually slowing them down physically and professionally and personally.

1805
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: So I see this happening all the time. Now. I

1806
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: think I'm not telling people don't have a drink. I

1807
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 1: like to drink once in a while, but drinking is

1808
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: a dangerous beast. I've talked you about this on the

1809
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: show before, and alcoholism is much more subtle than on

1810
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 1: the bar. And I'm picking fights with people. I never

1811
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: see no alcoholism as I come home every day and

1812
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: I have a few drinks and I get a little buzzed,

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01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: and if I don't, I get nervous. If I don't,

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01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm agitated. You know, That's what or at least having

1815
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: an alcohol problem, maybe not a full fledged alcoholism, but

1816
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: an i'lcohol problem is is bad. Enough. But this advice,

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01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: as I said, was pretty straightforward, but people freaked out.

1818
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Here's what Heather writes in this walltart journal off. The

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01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 1: op ed triggered an immediate uproar at the University of Pennsylvania,

1820
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: where one of its authors, UH teaches. The dean of

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01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: the penn Law School published an op ed in the

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01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: student newspaper noting the contemporaneous occurrence of the op ed

1823
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 1: and a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, suggesting that these

1824
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: views were divisive, even noxious. Half of miss Wax's law

1825
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: faculty colleagues signed an open letter denouncing her peace and

1826
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: calling on students to report any bias or stereotype they encounter.

1827
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: Students and alumni petitions poured forth, accusing Miss Wax, the

1828
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: author of the editorial about those norms that I mentioned,

1829
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:11,759
Speaker 1: accusing her of white supremacy, misogyny, and homophobia, and demanding

1830
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: that she'd be banned from teaching first year law classes.

1831
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: This is insanity. This is universally applicable, good, sound, well

1832
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: intentioned advice, but now it's part of misogyny, racism. It's

1833
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 1: a woman riding the op ed, but she's still part

1834
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: of the patriarchy. She's been co opted by the patriarchy.

1835
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: I just I noticed that there is a hostility among

1836
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: academics on the left. There is a hostility towards morality,

1837
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:51,679
Speaker 1: towards goodness, towards responsibility, towards individual endeavor and accountability. There's

1838
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 1: a hostility to those concepts, and it's really at the

1839
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: core of what it means to be a quote liberal

1840
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: these days, although they're anti liberty, so I hate that

1841
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: term for them. The modern left, the progressive left in

1842
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: this country, at its core, is opposed to the basic

1843
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 1: standards that you would need to form the very judgments

1844
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: about what is moral and what is good and what

1845
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: is good. Advice for young people, young people listening that

1846
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 1: stuff about get married before you have kids, stay married

1847
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 1: once you have kids, get an education for a good job,

1848
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: stay away from too much alcohol, stay away from drugs. Entirely,

1849
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: this is all really good advice. And I know I

1850
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: sound like an old fogey and get off my lawn

1851
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: and all that, but I'm telling you, I'm only thirty five.

1852
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I see it all the time playing out. It is

1853
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 1: fantastic advice. Don't listen to the left. They don't know

1854
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: what they're talking about We're talking about naps part two

1855
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: in a second Stay with Me, Welcome back, team Buck,

1856
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: here with you. I like to think of myself on

1857
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: occasion as a trend center, cutting edge, a revolutionary even

1858
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: not when it comes to fashion. If it weren't for

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01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Ms Molly, I would look look around the bottom of

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01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 1: my closet and the end result of my fashion choices

1861
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: would always be the well intentioned, but goofy dad from

1862
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: an eighties sitcom. So it's not that I'm a trendsetter

1863
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: in that way. And and I can't claim to know

1864
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 1: what's going on really with pop culture anything else. Well,

1865
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to my love of napping, it looks

1866
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: like I may be onto something. Yeah, that's right. You're welcome, America,

1867
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: You're welcome. It's catching on. People are writing about this.

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01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say the Wall Street Journal necessarily

1869
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: listens to Buck Sex and with America now, But I'm

1870
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: not gonna say they don't. I don't know, maybe they

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01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: do their piece today. Continuing on with our series on

1872
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 1: why you should start taking cs? Do you could call

1873
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: it if you want to make it sound a little fancy,

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01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 1: if you just wanted to be you know a little

1875
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 1: more America, you'd just be like naptime. But what's the

1876
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: best way to take an afternoon nap? The Wall Street

1877
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: Journal writting about this today and what they're telling you

1878
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 1: are a few key things here. One is that if

1879
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 1: you're an adult, you want to get seven hours of

1880
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: sleep a night, which I'm sure you've heard many times.

1881
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:10,560
Speaker 1: It used to be eight when I was younger. I

1882
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 1: remember people saying that now you're hearing seven, But seven

1883
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: seems to be pretty manageable. The place where the two

1884
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: areas where we tend to create the biggest sleep deficit

1885
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: are in our commutes and our working hours. I mean,

1886
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: we're just working all the time, and I have to

1887
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: force myself at night now to turn off the phone

1888
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: or at least put it aside. And the Kindle is

1889
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: good for me. The kindle I can read and I

1890
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: can fall asleep with it pretty easily. But the phone

1891
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: and social media and everything else, it keeps you wired,

1892
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: and you need to bring that down and get a

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Speaker 1: good night's sleep. You're just not as functional. I mean, anytime,

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Speaker 1: if you've ever had the experience of being up all

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Speaker 1: night for whatever reason, whether it's stress or whether it's

1896
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 1: you're out partying back in the day, back way way

1897
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: back when there were a few nights. What I can

1898
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Speaker 1: remember perhaps leaving a nightclub and the sun had come

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Speaker 1: up or started to come up, and that was uh

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Speaker 1: that that was an instance of me needing two days

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Speaker 1: of recovery after that. But I'm a huge believer in sleep.

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Speaker 1: I also think that then the notion of a nap room,

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01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: which at the Huffington Post, Darlink nap room is like

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Speaker 1: the best. It's what we do to Huffington's Post. We

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Speaker 1: pulled together a place for you to do yoga and

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Speaker 1: the knaps because Ariana Huffington's is all about life work balance. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: life work balance if you're already a millionaire and don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about getting fired, as pretty much everybody

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Speaker 1: I know the huffing In Post has had to either

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Speaker 1: worry about or has been fired at one point. Um,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, it's easy to it's easy to be the

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Speaker 1: cool uh new management practices boss who's like, hey guy,

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Speaker 1: he's like this, just seen this. I'll just take a

1914
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: little break here. We've got fantastic snack set up for you,

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Speaker 1: non gmo, organic and sustainable of course. And then we're

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Speaker 1: all gonna stab working see you hard. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: into a yoga room and we're gonna just get into

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Speaker 1: child's pose or a dead body pose, and we're just

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Speaker 1: getting little. That's just go man, that's great if you

1920
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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the other guy or gal

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Speaker 1: at their desk doing their work right. So we are

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Speaker 1: all stuck in this, in this hamster wheel existence. And

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Speaker 1: the one time that we all can finally recharges when

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Speaker 1: we're asleep, and so good sleep is essential and the

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01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: health benefits of this are tremendous. I should note that

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Speaker 1: the research on immunity I'd like to read about this stuff.

1927
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Speaker 1: The research on immunity and a good night's sleep is

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Speaker 1: is staggering. If you skip, if you get an entire

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Speaker 1: night without sleep, your immunity is dramatically affected by that.

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Speaker 1: I mean. And and some of you probably how this

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Speaker 1: experience if you stayed up all night because you were

1932
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Speaker 1: trying to, you know, cram for final exams, which I

1933
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 1: should note they've also done lots lots of studies on

1934
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Speaker 1: how cramming doesn't work. But then if you've got a

1935
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Speaker 1: cold a couple of days later, you always probably thought

1936
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Speaker 1: to yourself, Oh well, that's just stress. But the truth

1937
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,719
Speaker 1: is that your immune system was depleted because you weren't

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Speaker 1: getting sleep, which is also tied into stress. And I

1939
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Speaker 1: should note that stress is probably the single least appreciated

1940
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Speaker 1: and understood aspect of the health uh well, various health

1941
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Speaker 1: crises in this country, everything from heart disease to uh

1942
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Speaker 1: issues of of obesity and and you know, stress play

1943
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: such a large role in all this. But we're we're

1944
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Speaker 1: always led to believe that, you know, if we just

1945
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Speaker 1: if we're the hamster on the wheel, we just run

1946
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Speaker 1: a little faster, one more you know, hit the pellet

1947
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Speaker 1: or hit the little thing one more time, Get one

1948
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Speaker 1: more pellet. It's gonna make everything else seem like it's

1949
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 1: not a big deal. Sleep is essential. You cannot be

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Speaker 1: skipping out on sleep and and getting all of your

1951
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Speaker 1: work done and being as efficient and effective as you

1952
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Speaker 1: should be. So naps are a key part of that. Now,

1953
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Speaker 1: if you're somebody who finds yourself falling asleep at your

1954
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Speaker 1: desk involuntarily, that means you have a sleep deficit, according

1955
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Speaker 1: to this Wall Street Journal article, Whereas if you decide

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Speaker 1: on your own to take a twenty minutes is pretty optimal.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can never nap for twenty minutes.

1958
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Speaker 1: I always end up doing the nap where I think

1959
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be twenty minutes, and then I wake up

1960
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Speaker 1: like two hours later, and I'm like, you know what,

1961
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Speaker 1: I like, have like the dry mouth and I have

1962
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Speaker 1: the drool on one side and the dry mouth, and

1963
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Speaker 1: I'm like, where am I? And I don't know what's

1964
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Speaker 1: going on? And I have that kind of that's my

1965
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Speaker 1: version of the nap right the and you have that

1966
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Speaker 1: little moment of panic, like if I been asleep all day.

1967
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Speaker 1: But I love it. I mean, I still love napping.

1968
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Speaker 1: So it's very helpful for you. It's very good for you.

1969
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Speaker 1: And I said, I should also know that this was

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Speaker 1: on the drudge of work today too. Forget getting rich,

1971
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Speaker 1: Sex and sleep are the keys, the real keys to happiness.

1972
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Speaker 1: I don't think you needed me to tell you that.

1973
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Speaker 1: But also true very important for health, those those two things,

1974
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Speaker 1: health and sense of well being, which they are tied

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Speaker 1: into each other. I know, I get I get a

1976
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Speaker 1: little kind of hippie hippie stuff going here when I

1977
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Speaker 1: talk to you about wellness and health. But you know,

1978
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Speaker 1: I have some family members who are very knowledgeable in

1979
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Speaker 1: these areas, and I try to pick up as much

1980
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Speaker 1: as I can on my own, largely because I find

1981
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Speaker 1: Western medicine so deficient when it comes to lifestyle issues

1982
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Speaker 1: and chronic pain and any not stress management. You know,

1983
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Speaker 1: they're just like here's a pill. Here's a pill, take

1984
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Speaker 1: the pill. Here's a pill. Uh. That's not going to

1985
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Speaker 1: fix a lot of things that people going to the

1986
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Speaker 1: doctor to deal with. But now pardon me for getting

1987
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Speaker 1: up on my you know, Fiser sponsored soapbox there Um, alright,

1988
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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you to please check out

1989
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Speaker 1: Buck Sex in with American Out on iTunes. Download the show.

1990
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Speaker 1: We love seeing those download numbers go up month after month.

1991
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Speaker 1: It really helps us and it's really encouraging to me. Also,

1992
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Speaker 1: all of your feedback on Facebook very much appreciate it,

1993
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Speaker 1: especially when I do more experimental things like the History show.

1994
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Speaker 1: And I asked, I said, hey, do you guys like this?

1995
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Speaker 1: If you do, they'll be more. If you don't, I'll

1996
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Speaker 1: go back to other I've got. I've got so many

1997
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Speaker 1: ideas for the show, and I never have enough time.

1998
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Speaker 1: But Facebook dot com slash buck Sex, and I do

1999
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Speaker 1: read the messages and It's a great way, especially if

2000
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Speaker 1: you're listening to the show a little later or listening

2001
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Speaker 1: on the podcast. A great way to have your voice

2002
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Speaker 1: heard here on the team. And we're gonna continue this

2003
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Speaker 1: Friday with Team buck Speaks, So I will be picking

2004
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Speaker 1: messages from the week to to share on air. So

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Speaker 1: write me something really nice, really clever, really insightful, and

2006
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Speaker 1: we'll go with it until tomorrow. My friends, no matter

2007
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Speaker 1: what comes your way, Shields high.