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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health Holy Crow.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Steeds back Casper

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Speaker 3: with you. As we are inching ever closer to training

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Speaker 3: Camp twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna blink. That's gonna be here is the eleventh.

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Speaker 4: Two weeks from today. They report to Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 4: Two weeks from today.

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Speaker 3: First practice scheduled for the six I believe if I

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Speaker 3: remember right.

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Speaker 4: And the next day, yeah, Wednesday, two weeks from tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So we are getting set.

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Speaker 3: We're getting prepared, making our final preparations for what what

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Speaker 3: is a camp that will be upon us before we

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Speaker 3: know it. And we have plenty to discuss with you today.

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Speaker 3: Once again, an interesting topic of discussion which we'll get

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Speaker 3: to momentarily. I do have to say, you know, yesterday

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Speaker 3: you and I come on vacation and we really didn't

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Speaker 3: discuss anything that we did. I know you were out

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Speaker 3: of town caught up with some family, so that was cool. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I just did the staycation deal. Pretty much everybody

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Speaker 3: kind of came to us.

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Speaker 4: There's a I love staycation, so do I. It's great.

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Speaker 3: There are times though, where I come off of staycation

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Speaker 3: and I feel I haven't accomplished enough.

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Speaker 4: Yes, staycation is a problem because you start you staycation.

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Speaker 4: Still got that list hanging around. I'm sitting right here.

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Speaker 4: There's still things on the list, exactly. The biggest staycation

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Speaker 4: I remember when we were playing, when I was still playing,

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Speaker 4: when we had I think three kids at the time,

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Speaker 4: on our way to five. But we sent the kids

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Speaker 4: back to we we took a couple of months in

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Speaker 4: the off season, left Okay, and we sent the kids

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Speaker 4: with Grandma and grandpa and they started school out there.

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Speaker 4: They jump into the school season. You're out there, and

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Speaker 4: so the kids are gone, you know, three kids under

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Speaker 4: like eight years old or seven years old. It's a bunch.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a bunch, right, And the kids leave and

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Speaker 4: my wife and I are in the house and we

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Speaker 4: were like, we're like out to dinner, going to lunch shop.

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Speaker 4: Is we do everything except get the house buttoned up.

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Speaker 4: We get to the last day we gotta leave. We're

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Speaker 4: flying out, and we get still like hied up the

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Speaker 4: loose tens. You got to tie up to leave for

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Speaker 4: like six weeks, eight weeks, ten weeks, or twelve weeks

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Speaker 4: we were I think we were going like four months

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Speaker 4: one year, and we were like it was exactly like

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Speaker 4: we had the kids again. We had like we had

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Speaker 4: to bolt around the house, tie everything up, you know everything.

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Speaker 4: It was so we got totally caught up in the

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Speaker 4: uh nothing to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some stuff done, probably not enough stuff done,

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Speaker 3: and I'll be doing more of it before you know.

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Speaker 2: The real stuff hits.

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Speaker 3: And as you know, our spare time dwindles considerably once

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Speaker 3: we get rolling into training camp. I gotta tell you though,

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Speaker 3: I do always like when we get to go up

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Speaker 3: there and do the show up there. You know, you

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Speaker 3: come right off the practice field, you're you're like in it,

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Speaker 3: you're right in it, yea. And so to do the

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Speaker 3: shows from there, I think it's really cool. Plus our

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Speaker 3: access is great.

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Speaker 4: Players just stop by wayers, coaches, Yeah, sit down the chair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 4: So I'll say this too, and I've we've said a toime.

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Speaker 4: I mean people who have gone over to Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty cool. It's still even though, yeah, everything set

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Speaker 4: up and you get close to the players and you

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Speaker 4: get to see players and that you know, there's ninety

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Speaker 4: guys there and only like, I don't know, possibly sixty

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Speaker 4: nine of them are gonna make it all and probably

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Speaker 4: not all of those. You know, they're gonna switch guys

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Speaker 4: and stuff. So you get a pick. You got to

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Speaker 4: pick your guy that you think is gonna make it

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Speaker 4: that nobody else is going to. You pick a favorite guy.

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Speaker 4: You watch the you know, you watch the stars play,

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Speaker 4: of fun. It's a fun atmosphere and I recommend it.

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Speaker 4: I recommend it for anybody who can go over there

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Speaker 3: Because it's a different kind of exposure to it's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a different kind of football atmosphere than it

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Speaker 2: We're all looking forward to that.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of training camp, we go around the NFL presented

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Speaker 3: by Kalida Health, and it looks like the Chiefs will

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Speaker 3: start having players report to training camp next Tuesday, and

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Speaker 3: on the agenda for them before the players even hit

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Speaker 3: the field is to get a contract extension done for

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl defensive tackle Chris Jones. He's been asking for

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Speaker 3: a contract extension all offseason. General manager Bret Veach said

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Speaker 3: at the end of the offseason program in June that

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Speaker 3: they felt good about their chances of completing a deal

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Speaker 3: ESPN was reporting that the Chiefs are still optimistic they

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Speaker 3: to happen before training camp even opens. They're trying to

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Speaker 3: lower his cap hit, which is currently twenty eight million dollars,

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Speaker 3: have about seven hundred and fifty grand under the cap

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Speaker 3: a little bit more roster flexibility. You know, we hear

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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean say it all the time. Steve likes to

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Speaker 3: have about five six million to play with. You know,

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Speaker 3: in case you have a rash of injuries at a position,

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Speaker 3: you gotta sign, you know, somebody on the street to

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Speaker 3: So they got to make some space and this is

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Speaker 3: probably their best way of doing that. So the it's

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Speaker 3: widely anticipated that this will get completed. And talk about

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Speaker 3: an offseason for defensive tackles. I mean, my gosh, everybody

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Speaker 4: It seemed like, yeah, it's the year of the DT.

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Speaker 4: Good gracious, you've got a ton of guys. There's signing

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Speaker 4: all sign of these ninety million dollar deal.

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Speaker 3: Ron Payne, Jeffrey Simmons, Dexter Lawrence waiting, and we're still

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Speaker 3: waiting on Quinn Williams. That's right with the Jets, and

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Speaker 3: he's at Oliver here and he's every he's every.

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Speaker 4: Inch as good as any of those guys. So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, Maybe it's time for that market

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Speaker 4: don't really care. Just the Bills got their guys and

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Speaker 4: they're ready to go. But you're you're right, Kansas City

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Speaker 4: could easily clear up the six million dollars in space

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Speaker 4: They may give them money now if they want, and

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Speaker 4: that would clear up almost depending on the extension, you know,

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Speaker 4: twenty million bucks anyway, right.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see Dolphins backup quarterback Mike Mike White, formerly

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Speaker 3: a backup quarterback of the Jets, retold his story regarding

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Speaker 3: his rib injury after the Matt Mulano hit when he

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Speaker 4: Uh Bills fans remember the hit?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just about ever. He folded him like a

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Speaker 3: It was a beauty so here if you remember, and

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Speaker 3: I give him a lot of credit for this. He

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is now in.

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Speaker 3: He comes back out and finishes. Well, he might not

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Speaker 2: And played in the game.

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Speaker 4: That's because did did what's his name? Did Flago get

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Speaker 3: Recall didn't get whacked in that game too? He probably did,

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Speaker 4: Well because well in the Jets offensive lines paper mache

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Speaker 3: I know Mike White came back in the game, which

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Speaker 2: At the time.

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Speaker 3: When it happened in Buffalo, it hurt, but I was

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Speaker 3: kind of just like, all right, maybe I just bruised

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Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't hurt that bad.

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Speaker 3: And then a week having to lay off for two weeks,

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Speaker 3: That I wonder about, because the very next week they

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Speaker 3: didn't publicize the fact that he had five broken ribs.

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Speaker 3: They just listed his injury as ribs. They didn't say

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Speaker 3: And it's just like, there's no way that guy is

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the league can do about that,

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Speaker 4: because there's you're, like you said, there's no way that

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that or if that, if they're

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Speaker 4: the game. That's something that this building has stopped doing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who did it in the past, but

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott. This crew is notorious for not doing exactly that.

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Speaker 4: Daikwon Jones on another team might have been on the

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Speaker 4: field last year in the playoff game. You know, Jordan Phillips,

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Speaker 4: it took him a while to convince them to get

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Speaker 4: him back on the field. This last year, Tredevius White

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Speaker 4: set his own pace for his recovery. They this building

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Speaker 4: puts very little pressure on guys to suck it up

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Speaker 4: But I'll say this too, Anthony Richardson's got a lot

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Speaker 4: Richardson is like Josh Allen, you know, everything breaks down

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Speaker 3: ESPN dot Com Steve is putting together their top ten

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Speaker 3: position lists. Cornerback was the latest Tradavious White not on

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Speaker 3: They ask scouts about all of these players, and this

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Speaker 2: Hype push right.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting too. You see it. We're watching highlights of

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Speaker 3: So we look forward to Tredevie is getting all the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, in entering this circle of

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Speaker 3: There is utterly no affiliation there whatsoever, aside from reading

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Speaker 3: tell you.

439
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Speaker 4: That's weird, isn't it. It's really weird to me.

440
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.

441
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Speaker 4: You can't even I don't even know how you make

442
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: assumptions or congect I don't know any of these, you know, Jerry? Okay,

443
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: Jerry's probably got a lot of friends. Wayne Heizenger, I know,

444
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: was a great dude from guys who played down there,

445
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 4: friends of mine. They always raved about how great a

446
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: guy Wayne Heiseenga was, So I get that. I don't

447
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 4: know how Supreme Court justice gets mixed up in all

448
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: of that. That's crazy world, man. It's like, you know,

449
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: it's like Josh turning up everywhere in the off seasons,

450
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: Like there's PGA, there's Josh Allen, or there's you know

451
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: the Formula one. Oh Josh is in the pit area.

452
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: You know all. You know, they turn us like that

453
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: wild donkey syndrome of Aaron Rodgers. Wherever something's happening, Oh

454
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 4: my gosh, there's Aaron Rodgers in the back.

455
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Speaker 3: It's like Thomas, like, this is the Supreme Court's answer

456
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: to Aaron Rodgers.

457
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Speaker 4: Or yes, either that or Michael Kine the movie star.

458
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: He's in every single movie there was for like for

459
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: like fifteen years. He was in everywhere. So it's like

460
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Speaker 4: he's turned up everywhere.

461
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I saw that. I was like, we

462
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Speaker 2: got to talk about this.

463
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Speaker 4: That's amazing. I I was flabber gessed. I gotta tell

464
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: you that, you think about it because it never used

465
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: to be like that it has become the I don't

466
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 4: know what. I don't know how to describe it. The NFL.

467
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: It's players, it's stars, it's owners, it's executives there, they're

468
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 4: brands now everybody. It is unbelievable how big the league is.

469
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 4: And however president is. Now you and I talk about it.

470
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: If we you and I talk about one team and

471
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: its league every day of the year, five days a week,

472
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: all year round. When we're not you know, taking vacations

473
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Speaker 4: and Pete, we're people listen.

474
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Speaker 2: They can't.

475
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not only not just me and Brownie

476
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 4: and not just our wives and our families listen, but ever,

477
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 4: you know, and if we're not the only ones, there's

478
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Speaker 4: radio sticks. I mean, there's whole networks dedicated to it.

479
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 4: The league is huge, and everybody wants to kind of

480
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 4: like say, see what it's really going on over here?

481
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 4: It say, you know, they're taking taking private jet.

482
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Speaker 3: That being said, I still don't think a Supreme Court justice,

483
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Speaker 3: who's supposed to demonstrate and partiality, should be taking.

484
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Speaker 2: A Super Bowl ring from an owner. But who am

485
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Speaker 2: I to judge.

486
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Speaker 3: I'm not a judge, so I guess I won't.

487
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: It's like a Saturday Night Live Skit, isn't it when

488
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: I can say Keenan Thompson now and he's got picks

489
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 4: up the gam and he's got a big old door

490
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: knob of a ring on Bam.

491
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Speaker 2: Innocent, I am innocent. I rule that I am innocent.

492
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look, they're not they're not.

493
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Speaker 2: They're not political officials.

494
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: Technically they're they're they're they're appointed by politicians, but they

495
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: are not politics, at least they're not supposed to be.

496
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Speaker 2: But my gosh, I.

497
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Speaker 3: Was I was reading this. I was like, is this

498
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: right now? I gotta go back and read the New

499
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: York Times deep dive on them. These are just snippets

500
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: from that long story. I can't imagine what else is

501
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: in there.

502
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want to know.

503
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: You're trying to just leave your head in the sand

504
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: because you can't change it.

505
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm out of my south. It's above my pay

506
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 4: grade and I get it.

507
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

508
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: Uh. Topic of discussion today is von Miller and how

509
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: crucial is it for the Bills to have von Miller

510
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: at the early part of the regular season. We've heard

511
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean basically go on record and say the most

512
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: important time to have Vaughn Is down the stretch and

513
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 3: in the postseason, which unfortunately the Bills were deprived of

514
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: last year when he suffered a partially torn acl that

515
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: required season ending surgery. But he's on the come man.

516
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: He is coming back with a vengeance. He's convinced he's

517
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: going to be ready at the start of the regular season.

518
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: The athletic training staff and medical staff may have something

519
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: to say about that out of an abundance of caution.

520
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: But tell us how crucial do you think it is

521
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: for the Bills to have von at the front end

522
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: of the season and then you know, hopefully he stays

523
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: healthy the rest of the way, as opposed to maybe

524
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Speaker 3: just having him down the stretch.

525
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Speaker 2: How crucial is that.

526
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Speaker 3: We're asking you to gauge that for us at eight

527
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Speaker 3: h three zero five point fifty one eighty eight five

528
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Speaker 3: point fifty two five point fifty And we will have

529
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Speaker 3: a guest on here in our next segment to kind

530
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Speaker 3: of shed some more light on that. Someone who covered

531
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Speaker 3: the AFS has covered the AFC West for a long time,

532
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: covered most of von Miller's career while he was playing

533
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: in that division. NFL Network Works James Palmer is going

534
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: to be joining us. It's gonna shed some light on

535
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Speaker 3: where he thinks things stand with Vaughn, who I believe

536
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: he caught up with at his pass rush camp, you know,

537
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: out west recently. So we'll check in with James and

538
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: then take your phone calls after that. Here on One

539
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Speaker 3: Bill's Live, presented by Klida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

540
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

541
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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please to be

542
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: joined now by NFL Network reports James Palmer, who's you know,

543
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Speaker 3: always got his ear to the ground on the AFC West,

544
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: but covers the league at large as well, and because

545
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Speaker 3: of his AFC West background, he has a firm working

546
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: knowledge of one Von Miller and the freakazoid that he

547
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: is in terms of coming back from ACL injuries. This

548
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: will be his second one and he was recently on

549
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Speaker 3: NFL Network kind of discussing Von's situation, so we figured

550
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: we'd get James on here as well to kind of

551
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Speaker 3: elaborate on that a little bit. So first of all, James, welcome,

552
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Speaker 3: thanks for joining us as always, and you know, the

553
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Speaker 3: psyche and eternally positive mindset of one Von Miller, who

554
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: seems to be able to speak things into existence when

555
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: he says, I anticipate to be week one ready, Maybe

556
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Speaker 3: lay out the percentages for me, James, knowing Vaughn as

557
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: you do, how much of that is manifest destiny and

558
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: how much of that is you know, realistic thinking.

559
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Speaker 6: Okay, well, let's be honest. We've all been around Vaughn

560
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 6: long enough. I don't think anybody knows anything about von Psyche.

561
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 6: I mean, it's one of the most interesting minds I

562
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 6: think we've seen in the NFL in some time in

563
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 6: terms of everything that he's interested in, in everything he thinks,

564
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 6: and how he goes about his life, but how he

565
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 6: goes about his rehab specifically, it's a little bit different

566
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Speaker 6: than the first time around. I remember the first Aco,

567
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 6: he was a lunatic, really a young guy. It just

568
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 6: really really just had his mindset that he was going

569
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 6: to beat all of the timetables that are put in

570
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: front of him in terms of how he was going

571
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Speaker 6: to get back. The mindset on this is a little

572
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 6: bit different. It doesn't mean he doesn't want to come back,

573
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 6: doesn't mean he's not grinding.

574
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Speaker 7: He's doing all of that.

575
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 6: He's working his tail off, But I think his mindset

576
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: is a little bit more of a veteran approach, and

577
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 6: I think it's because of what he's been through. I

578
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: think the spot with the Rams actually plays a part

579
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 6: in this. If you remember when he was traded, he

580
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 6: was dealing with, I believe in an ankle injury if

581
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 6: that center serves me right, and he needed to get

582
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 6: that health before he was able to make an impact

583
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 6: with the Rams. But what did he do down the

584
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: stretch and in the postseason. I mean, you could say

585
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Speaker 6: he's one of the most important players to that Super

586
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 6: Bowl win, And I think that plays a little bit

587
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: into his mind because down the stretch is more important

588
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 6: than week one, and being even more effective down the

589
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 6: stretch than getting back for week one, say you rushed

590
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 6: for that is more in his mind than maybe just

591
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 6: getting back for week one like it was in twenty

592
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Speaker 6: thirteen with.

593
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Speaker 7: The first one.

594
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 6: Now, does everybody want to come in and go against

595
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers on national television.

596
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 7: And go after him? Yeah, I really do.

597
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 6: But I do think his veteran approach towards the stretch

598
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 6: and the back half of the year plays into his

599
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: mind much more than it did back with the first Aco.

600
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Speaker 4: And plus you know, it's certainly it's nice to come

601
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: in and have the Monday night football opening, you know,

602
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: opening Monday night football game of the year. But by

603
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: the same token, it's not like the Bills aren't going

604
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: to be on primetime shit, right, I mean, so, how

605
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: big a difference and what do you think the likely

606
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: scenario is that Vaughn like they play it cool with

607
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: him and then shift gears in the last two months

608
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: of the season, last eight ten weeks of the season,

609
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: get him ripped up to make sure that when the

610
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: playoffs do come around, they've got him.

611
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Speaker 6: To me, that's up to Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean.

612
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Speaker 6: But I do think you know, all these coaches usually

613
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 6: what do they do. They divide the season into quarters roughly, right,

614
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 6: That's usually what happens a lot, and you look at

615
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 6: where you want to be playing your best football. I

616
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: think as they go through camp and they see the

617
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Speaker 6: way he's playing, we know this pass rush is completely

618
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: different when he's on the field than when he's not.

619
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Speaker 6: We saw it for really seven games and how different

620
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Speaker 6: it is. But we do know also that the Bills

621
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Speaker 6: like to kind of rush the passer in waves. Can

622
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Speaker 6: you play him in a limited capacity? Can you play

623
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Speaker 6: him with limited snaps? That's probably possible. As you mentioned,

624
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 6: kind of revving him up to get him ready, because

625
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 6: specifically a game I was at that really jumps out

626
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 6: of me is the game against the Chiefs, and he

627
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 6: kind of won that team against Patrick Mahomes with three

628
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: of the plays that he made in that game down

629
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Speaker 6: the stretch and I think they hit Mahomes nine times

630
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Speaker 6: in that game. I just think he wants to and

631
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Speaker 6: Sean McDermott wants him to be able to go against

632
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 6: these top quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think getting

633
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: after them with four is extremely important, specifically in the postseason,

634
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 6: because these quarterbacks will tear you apart. In the AFC,

635
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 6: the group is huge. Whoever you're facing in the postseason

636
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 6: is going to be great. You need to be able

637
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 6: to get after them at four and a von Miller healthy.

638
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 6: Getting after them with four pass rushers, I think is

639
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 6: extremely important. So revving him up and getting him going,

640
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 6: I think is a big part of it. And I

641
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 6: think listening to Vaughan, I think this is going to

642
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: be one of those situations where there's a lot of

643
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 6: dialogue between the player and the organization because Vaughon knows

644
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: his body unbelievably well. I just think everything is going

645
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 6: to point towards the side of caution in a sense

646
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: because of how important the stretch run is.

647
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Speaker 3: And Brandon was asked is James a little bit earlier

648
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: this offseason? He claims it's mutually exclusive, but the late

649
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: signing of Leonard Floyd.

650
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd affords them.

651
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: The opportunity to pace Vaughn through this process. I mean,

652
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: it's a proven pass rusher, almost thirty sacks in the

653
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: last three seasons, and you can just line him up

654
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 3: opposite Greg Russo and you're probably pretty good until Vaughan

655
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: gets back.

656
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Speaker 4: You really are.

657
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Speaker 6: And but I will say this, I think Brandon isn't

658
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 6: lying in that sense, because I think we see Leonard

659
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 6: Floyd at his best when his snaps are somewhat limited, right,

660
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 6: like when we see him being able to pick a spots.

661
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 6: I'm not going to make a comparison, but it's kind

662
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 6: of like, you know, when did we see Brandon Graham

663
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: play great in Philly this past year? Like because he

664
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 6: had fewer snaps, like he can be more effective in

665
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: a sense. And I know that they're deep up there

666
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 6: and they want these young guys to continue to evolve

667
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: and grow. But I think it does give them the

668
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 6: luxury of just a veteran presence around a group of

669
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: guys that are still a lot of them young. And

670
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 6: Vaughn's obviously there too to help this group continue to

671
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 6: grow and learn. I know, at Oliver on the inside

672
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 6: kind of like he kind of took, you know, some

673
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 6: earnest on himself going. You know, I think I could

674
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 6: have been one of the guys to step up down

675
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 6: the stretch. And I think all of that is in

676
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 6: a variety of guys mindset where I think the thought

677
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 6: process in Buffalo is that we're not going to rely

678
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 6: on Vaughn to be there week one. And I think

679
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: that's a pretty good mindset to have from the rest

680
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: of the group, that you're not just gonna rely on

681
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 6: the future Hall of Famer, the guy that's still playing

682
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 6: in an unbelievable level. Everybody else knows that they need

683
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: to pick up their game in a sense, and if

684
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 6: Vaughn's just kind of coming along and the organizations maybe

685
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 6: making that decision in a sense, I think it allows

686
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 6: everybody else to kind of take notice during training camp,

687
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 6: what they need to do at the beginning of the season,

688
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 6: and hopefully it all comes together down the stretch.

689
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: So you've got the bills going out to your kind

690
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: of your wheelhouse, the AFC West, you know, Broncers, Chargers, Chiefs,

691
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: and Raiders. Give us a little bit of what's going

692
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: on in the and maybe the question obviously there's not

693
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: too many question marks in Kansas City, and I think

694
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: saying and I think LA is probably sitting there with thinking,

695
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 4: if they can stay healthy, they're going to be a

696
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: different football team as well. Give us a kind of

697
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: the low down on the Broncos and the new changes there.

698
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 4: With Sean Payton and the Raiders.

699
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 6: You had a chance to see the Broncos first hand,

700
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 6: so we'll start with them when I watched OTA's in

701
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 6: mini camp, and it's just a completely different offseason than

702
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 6: what we saw a year ago with the previous coaching regime.

703
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 6: And nothing against them, it's just Sean Payton is one

704
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 6: of the best on the field teachers slash offensive minds

705
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 6: we've seen in the last twenty years. And the mindset

706
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 6: in Denver really is that if he can't get Russ right,

707
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 6: then probably nobody can.

708
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 7: The offense is going to change from.

709
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: Less on Russ's shoulders to more of a run first offense.

710
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 6: That's why they went out and got Mike McGlinchey, That's

711
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 6: why they have Ben Powers. They've revamped their whole offensive

712
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: line to run the football with Levante Williams and samaj

713
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 6: p Ryan. Now Javonte Williams gonna be the player in

714
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 6: Denver to keep your eye on this entire training camp.

715
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 6: If he's ready for Week one, which I'm told is

716
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 6: a very very likely possibility with him coming off his

717
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 6: ACL that's huge for this Broncos team. They want to

718
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 6: run the football. And then what I've seen is what

719
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 6: we saw of old guys in Seattle. It's the play action,

720
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 6: it's the bootlegs, it's what you saw Russell Wilson at

721
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: his best, still taking some shots to a decent wide

722
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 6: receiver corps, and the defense is still very good.

723
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Speaker 7: So I think they're going to kind of change Russ.

724
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 6: I'm told there's some muscle memory, some things that he

725
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 6: does that they want to change, and they've.

726
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 7: Been working on that.

727
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 6: But as a whole, it's Russ had a pretty good

728
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 6: offseason for what I'm told, with Vegas.

729
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 7: It's it's it's.

730
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 6: Almost like they're getting some time from from Mark Davis

731
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 6: and it looks like, you know, with what Dave Ziggler

732
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 6: and Josh mctatus are doing, is like, what are we

733
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 6: familiar with?

734
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: Right?

735
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 7: Jacoby Myers comes in, it's somebody they're familiar with.

736
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 6: You know, they still have Tay Diggs still Devonte Adams

737
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: who's still incredible, but you lose Darren Waller, you have

738
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 6: a rookie tight end. I just think with Jimmy Garoppolo

739
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 6: coming in and the way that they're operating is we

740
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 6: have somebody that knows our system really well. Now Jimmy's

741
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 6: missing the offseason, so the chemistry with that group is

742
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 6: going to fall behind a little bit of on the field.

743
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: From what I'm told, they're spending a ton of time

744
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 6: together in the film room, in the facility and things

745
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 6: like that. But there's still a lot of questions on

746
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball, for sure for Vegas

747
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 6: that they need to fix. And you mentioned health with

748
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 6: the Chargers. I mean it's almost like, as a football fan,

749
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 6: I think everybody's going like, I wonder what's gonna happen

750
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 6: if the Chargers ever get like decent health luck. I mean,

751
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 6: you lose Bosa for such a long stretch, for shn

752
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: Slater for such a long stretch. JC Jackson, like they

753
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: couldn't stop the run at all. The defense needs to,

754
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 6: you know, obviously turn a corner.

755
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 7: And get healthy.

756
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 6: But they got so many weapons, and they added another

757
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 6: one in the draft, which everybody's like another big bodied

758
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 6: receiver I guess coming to this group, and so it's

759
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 6: another But to me, the difference is another offensive coordinator

760
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: for Justin Herbert. I mean, it's another change as an

761
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator, and I think that's something to keep an

762
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 6: eye on. They don't run the football and I don't

763
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 6: think Kellamores running the football, so that's not going to change,

764
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 6: but it is a little bit of a new on

765
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 6: the offensive side of the ball. We know they're dangerous,

766
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 6: it's just can they stay healthy? And if we want

767
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 6: to talk to the Chiefs, we can. Guys, do you want

768
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 6: to talk to the Chiefs?

769
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: Not yet, but we will because here's one thing, James.

770
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Speaker 3: You know, you talk about the positive outlook for Javonte Williams,

771
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: and they are a team that, as you mentioned, wants

772
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Speaker 3: to run the ball first and look I think Javonte

773
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: Williams is a great.

774
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: Talent too, But.

775
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: Should we read into the fact that it's basically just

776
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: Javante and samaj p Ryan and a lot of unproven

777
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: guys behind them on the depth chart. Are we to

778
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: read into that that the outlook is that good for

779
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: Javonte Williams because there always is an element of risk

780
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: if you're going to put a big load on a

781
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: guy coming off an ACL year one, you know, where

782
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: some guys take a full year before they're really all

783
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: the way back from an injury like that. I just

784
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: found it interesting that, you know, behind him is just

785
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: p Ryan's you're only proven guy and he's been a

786
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: career back up to Joe Mixon.

787
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally agree, and that's why, you know, the

788
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 6: optimism actually started around the combine with how his rehab

789
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 6: was going. But I'm with you in a sense where

790
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: I did you they it was just a deep running

791
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 6: back draft and they didn't really go after it in

792
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 6: that sense. They could have made a play for a

793
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: back in the middle rounds Now, again, they were limited

794
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 6: on picks, but at the same time, there was a

795
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 6: lot of options to be had in a deep running

796
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 6: back draft.

797
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 7: And they didn't really do it, And so to me,

798
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 7: that's either.

799
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 6: There's something telling them that Javonte Williams is going to

800
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 6: be the player that we thought he was going to

801
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 6: be after the rookie season, right coming into his second

802
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 6: year where we saw all the talent and a dominant, you.

803
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 7: Know, rookie year where he's running over people.

804
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 6: I think it's one that I would keep my eye

805
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 6: on on how camp is going, that there still are

806
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 6: a number.

807
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 7: Of backs out there.

808
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not saying they're going to go out

809
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 6: there and get Dalvin Cook, but I mean somebody like

810
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: Kareem Hunt's.

811
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 7: Still out there.

812
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they could look at the early

813
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 6: portion of training camp and see how it's going, and

814
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: I wouldn't put a pass if they thought, you know,

815
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: maybe we do add one of these backs. I think

816
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 6: everybody's waiting, you know, for Dalvin to see where the

817
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 6: price is in terms of these backs, and once that

818
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 6: kind of gets set and once we get past the

819
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 6: you know, essentially with Saquon and Josh Jacobs, once we

820
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 6: get passed whether the deals get done long term with them,

821
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 6: the value of the running back situation is set and

822
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 6: maybe a few weeks into into camp, they go at

823
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: one of these, you know, veteran backs to add to

824
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 6: the group. But I'm kind of with you, it is

825
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 6: really thin behind the two of them, all.

826
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 4: Right, So now if we get back to it, let's

827
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: let's talk about the Chiefs. Do they have any issues

828
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: that it would keep any Chiefs fan up at night?

829
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 7: Not when you got fifteen back there, I don't think so.

830
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 6: They have from Kansas City standpoint, unbelievable in my opinion,

831
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 6: expectations for Kadarius Tony.

832
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 7: I mean, they think he is going to.

833
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 6: Be their number one, clear cut, Like they don't think

834
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 6: he's even scratched the surface of what he can do

835
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 6: as a wide receiver. I think we saw a little

836
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 6: bit obviously in splashes in his career so far to

837
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: what he can do when the football is in his hands.

838
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: But they think, you know, he's much more of a

839
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 6: deep threat than people think.

840
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 7: He can do so much more.

841
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 6: I would also keep an eye on him, like I

842
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 6: don't know, there's it's strange that DeAndre Hopkins hasn't signed anywhere.

843
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 7: Chris Jones deal gets.

844
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 6: Done, which most likely sooner than later, does that it

845
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 6: frees up a lot of cap space, maybe Hop joins

846
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 6: the group. I don't think that makes the rest of

847
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 6: the NFL all that excited. But I'm just curious, like

848
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 6: he's still weighing his options. Is he's weighing his options

849
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 6: because case he doesn't have.

850
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 7: The money yet.

851
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 6: I don't know, But Kadarius Tony in that group is

852
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 6: one that they're you know, they're looking for him to

853
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: lead a group of a.

854
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 7: Bunch of guys that have question marks next to him.

855
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 6: You got a rookie, you know, you got a second

856
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 6: year player, and you got mvs. I think really obviously

857
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 6: it all goes through through Travis Kelcey. But if Kadarius

858
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 6: Tony isn't showing them what they think, I mean, maybe

859
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 6: they do something, But I don't know.

860
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 7: I think there's not a lot.

861
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 6: To worry about in Kansas City right now, specifically on

862
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 6: that side of the ball. We could talk defense, but

863
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 6: on that side of the ball, there's not a whole lot.

864
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we call those first world

865
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: problems for the Chiefs.

866
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: Luxurious to keep my eye on Donovan Smith, though, I

867
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 6: do want to keep my eye on Donovan Smith playing

868
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 6: left tackle. Yeah, I thought that was an interesting move

869
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 6: because he didn't play great last year.

870
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll definitely be interesting. James.

871
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: We are unfortunately at a time, but thanks for joining us.

872
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

873
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: Enjoy what parts of the summer you have left before

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Speaker 3: we all get this thing rolling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about Yeah, you're right, it's about that much.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you. We'll catch up with you during

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 7: Ah right, guys, take it easy, thing all right?

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Speaker 3: That's James Palmer, NFL Network reporter focuses on the AFC West,

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Speaker 3: but obviously has his finger on the pulls of everything NFL,

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Speaker 3: and good to get his take on the outlook for

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Speaker 3: an AFC West division that I think Steve and I

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Speaker 3: thought was going to cannibalize each other last year and

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Speaker 3: that flat out didn't happen. Does it change to some

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Speaker 3: we'll get to your phone calls. As we are asking you,

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Speaker 3: how crucial is it for the Bills to have von

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Speaker 3: Miller at the start of the season ready to go?

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Speaker 3: have von Miller right from the jump in week one

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Speaker 3: of the regular season. You let us know at eight

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Speaker 3: off is Ron in Webster.

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00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Ron, How you doing, guys, Yeah, I got I got

916
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Speaker 5: two things. My first impression is that Vaughn should play

917
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: against the contenders. I don't know if you'd be I

918
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 5: don't know if he'd be ready for his jets, but

919
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 5: if he played against the contenders, he'll be more than

920
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Speaker 5: ready for the end of the season. That's just that's

921
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Speaker 5: just my take.

922
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I think you should. You think he should

923
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Speaker 4: play against just select opponents like the Chiefs, the Eagles,

924
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Speaker 4: or maybe just the division games whatever.

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Speaker 5: Exactly exactly how many total games, I don't know. There's

926
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Speaker 5: a lot we're playing. We're playing a tough schedule, so

927
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Speaker 5: they can contenders are gouna probably end up being about

928
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Speaker 5: what ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, half of them at right, at.

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Speaker 5: Least at least half anyway, Yeah, I mean the other thing,

931
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Speaker 5: go ahead, Ron, Sorry, oh no, the other thing is

932
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Speaker 5: just a housekeeping thing. I know you guys are sitting

933
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Speaker 5: in front of a green screen, all right, But the

934
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Speaker 5: jersey above Bruce Smith in the background, yeah, is Tremaine Edmonds.

935
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Speaker 5: He don't play anymore for us. I think Steve's jersey

936
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Speaker 5: ought to be there.

937
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll make a note of it.

938
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Speaker 3: We'll get to our computer experts and see if they

939
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Speaker 3: can take care of that for you.

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Speaker 4: But you can't find one of my jerseys.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call. Ron, you are a

942
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Speaker 2: keen observer of d tail.

943
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Speaker 4: It's a good catch right back right back here, over

944
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: my head, right yeah, it's over Brownie's head over there,

945
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Speaker 4: back in the bag.

946
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Speaker 2: You have to you have to switch that. Get the

947
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Speaker 2: get the CGI guys.

948
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Speaker 4: On that make that happen. That's that's great. It's interesting.

949
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Speaker 4: How about this, though, Brownie, you're if if you're gonna say, okay, Von,

950
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Speaker 4: we want you to play, we're gonna it's load management

951
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: like the NBA, right right right? How would you manage

952
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 4: his load? And I because I got my own theory

953
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Speaker 4: that just occurred to me.

954
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, while I like the premise of what

955
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Speaker 3: Ron is talking about here, you know, oh yeah, it'd

956
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Speaker 3: be great to have him for the Jets, But then

957
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: the schedule gets a little softer Raiders followed by Commanders.

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Speaker 2: Does he really need to play in those games? Probably not?

959
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Speaker 2: Probably not?

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00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: You know, then you've got a division game against the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins Jags in London Giants on Sunday night. I I

962
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Speaker 3: can't subscribe to only playing in the big quote unquote

963
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: big games. I think he's got to if you're gonna

964
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Speaker 3: load manage him. I think he's got to play every week.

965
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Speaker 3: But you put him on a pitch count, and you

966
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Speaker 3: do it that way, and it's a very strict pitch

967
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Speaker 3: count in his first few weeks back where he's actually playing.

968
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Speaker 3: But Steve, you can speak to this better than I can.

969
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Speaker 3: You can't play one week and then not play the

970
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Speaker 3: next week and expect to be just as good the

971
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Speaker 3: week after that when you take the field again, right like.

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Speaker 4: Rest is rest. But I'll say this here, let me

973
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Speaker 4: give you a different way to look at it. How

974
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 4: about if you go down the schedule and I can't

975
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Speaker 4: think of it off the top of my head. I couldn't.

976
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Speaker 4: I couldn't do this. But let's let's go down at

977
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Speaker 4: home against the Raiders. Then it's the Jets, then the

978
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Speaker 4: Raiders at Washington. And let me just say, and you'll

979
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Speaker 4: know where I'm going with this. At Washington might be

980
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Speaker 4: his first game because it's natural surface. At Miami Dolphins,

981
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: they're at home, Miami Dolphins. Grass that's Dolphins are at home?

982
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Speaker 4: Is it at Dolphins?

983
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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Buffalo, So that's turf.

985
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: So I say, no, Tottenham Hotspur, that's natural grass.

986
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Speaker 2: No, I don't know that it is.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they rotate the soccer field out, which is natural grass,

988
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Speaker 3: and I think the turf comes up.

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Speaker 4: I think that might be the way to go.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's a turfield.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that that might be the way to go. Wait

992
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: until you get into Lincoln Financial. That's a natural grass field.

993
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: Arrowhead Stadium's a natural grass field.

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Speaker 3: You only got him playing on natural grass. Yeah, that

995
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Speaker 3: he's not gonna He's gonna play half the season.

996
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: Hard rock. He wouldn't not even half the season, all

997
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: the way through week week eighteen.

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Speaker 9: There's only like New England's grassma here, that's not New

999
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Speaker 9: England's grass.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, New England's grass.

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Speaker 4: That would take him out of all the home games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I can't, So you can't really do don't see that

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Speaker 4: he can't do that. Pittsburgh. I mean he'd play in

1004
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 4: that game at you know, well that's week two in

1005
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: them at Chargers.

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Speaker 2: That's not grass.

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00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean Pittsburgh's a preseason.

1008
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: I think you just got to put him on a

1009
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Speaker 3: pitch count, a strict one, especially when he just gets.

1010
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Speaker 4: Back, you know, I think that's the only way you

1011
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 4: can do.

1012
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: Fifteen snaps, twenty snaps tops like the first game back.

1013
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 2: Let him get his legs under him, I think.

1014
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: And then if you want to pace him through that

1015
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: first month he's back fine, But by the time you

1016
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 3: get to the Eagles game right after Thanksgiving, it's go time.

1017
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you just let

1018
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: the guy play, you know, say, go out, warm up

1019
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 4: at halftime, stretch and get ready because you're gonna play

1020
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 4: the last half of the third and all the fourth quarter.

1021
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: And I gotta tell you this, that way, you're playing

1022
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: against an offensive line this a little beat up, a

1023
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 4: little beat up and fatigued, you can come out fresh.

1024
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: I think the challenge would be to get warm during

1025
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: the game, get ready to play, and go for the

1026
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: last half of the third and all the fourth.

1027
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: Around Vin the last year plus, I don't think he's

1028
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: gonna accept not playing in games once he's back, Like,

1029
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: what do you mean I'm not playing next week?

1030
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

1031
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: Like?

1032
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Maybe?

1033
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he may he may feel that way, but you

1034
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 4: gotta go win. You gotta go win with a plan.

1035
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 4: And now is when you start talking about it before

1036
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 4: you get to training camp and all of that. I mean,

1037
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 4: you don't need Vonn going to if you're not gonna

1038
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 4: play Vaughn one hundred percent of the snaps he's available

1039
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: to play. He's not taking one hundred percent of the

1040
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: snaps he's available to practice either, And that's what you're

1041
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 4: gonna be doing for the next two months, is practicing.

1042
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: He's not gonna play in the preseason anyway. If even

1043
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: if he hadn't got injured last year, he's not playing

1044
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: in the preseason, right, Yeah, So that's an interesting philosophy

1045
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: of how they're gonna handle him when he gets back.

1046
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: Now we know this too, We've seen it with a

1047
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: ton of players. The Bills are pretty conservative when it

1048
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 4: comes to putting guys out there who aren't a hundred

1049
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 4: percent ready and don't feel one hundred percent there. They

1050
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: do not hesitate to hold them out, and even if

1051
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: a player wants to go, they they you know, put

1052
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 4: a seat belt on them and time to the bench.

1053
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: So I think that's that's what we can't really tell

1054
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: about what's gonna happen here because there's Vaughn's input and

1055
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: there's the team's input and there's what's and then there's

1056
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: what's best, which nobody can really know and accept in retrospect.

1057
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 3: Break time for us here, But your phone calls coming

1058
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 3: up when we return. How critical is it that they

1059
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: get Von back sooner rather than later?

1060
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: You tell us at eight o three oh five fifty

1061
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: Hour number two coming up next with your phone calls

1062
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: All right, hour number two here are Tuesday.

1066
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: Chris Brownski's afterwards. You taking your pop balls for this.

1067
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: Full hour at eight oh three oh five five point

1068
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 3: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board.

1069
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Speaker 3: As we are discussing with you, how critical you believe

1070
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: it is that von Miller is back on the field

1071
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 3: sooner rather than later. We've heard the talk Vaughn saying, Hey,

1072
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: my goal is to be ready week one. The athletic

1073
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: training staff may have other ideas. Brandon Bean has gone

1074
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 3: on record saying the most important time to have VN

1075
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: is down the stretch and for the postseason, something that

1076
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: did not happen last year as we all know.

1077
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: So where do you come down on this. Even if von.

1078
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: Miller is healthy and could play, are we one hundred

1079
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: percent sure the Bills will put him on the field.

1080
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to think about it this way.

1081
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: He got hurt in what was it, Week six or seven?

1082
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: No, it was later though.

1083
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: It was Thanksgiving. Yeah, it was Thanksgiving, that's right, remember,

1084
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: because we had tra Davis.

1085
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: Bavis didn't play till Thanksgiving, right.

1086
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: So they never had those two guys on the field

1087
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 4: at the same time. Micah Hyde was gone by that time.

1088
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: I mean they were a mess defensively personnel wise last

1089
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: year and Vaughan was gone when yeah, down the stretch

1090
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: and they went from a top ten pass rush team

1091
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 4: to nowhere near that with that injury. I the way

1092
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: it should work and usually works. If the guy's ready

1093
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 4: and can play, he plays now, they can rotate him in,

1094
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: and the Bills have done that. That's their thing. So

1095
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: it's not like he's gonna go in there and take

1096
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of the defensive snaps and go from

1097
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 4: his zero to sixty in one week. But I doubt that.

1098
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: If he's one hundred percent of the and the training

1099
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 4: staff standing there going, there's nothing more we can do.

1100
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: The guy's healthy and Vaughn's sitting there going put me in, coach,

1101
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 4: I want to play. You know what are you gonna do?

1102
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: It's crazy not to. This isn't baseball and it's not

1103
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: the NBA. You haven't got one hundred and sixty two

1104
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: regular season games or eighty two regular season games like

1105
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 4: you do in basketball and hockey. You got seventeen games

1106
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 4: and you got to get them. You got to get

1107
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 4: all of them if you can. It means something when

1108
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 4: you get home field. So if you're in a position

1109
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: like that, if he's good and he's ready, you play him, period,

1110
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: end of story.

1111
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 2: I would tend to say yes as well.

1112
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: I mean, when he first gets back, you want to

1113
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: pace him, you want to put him on a pitch count.

1114
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: That's fine by me.

1115
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't I understand the practices in play in doing that.

1116
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: And then if he looks good and he feels good, well,

1117
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 3: then up his reps you know, the next week, and

1118
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: you know there's there's a whole process there that involves

1119
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: medical opinions and athletic training expertise that Steve and I

1120
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: flat out do not have. But that would seem to

1121
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: make the most sense. But you let us know what

1122
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: you think at eight h three oh five fifty one

1123
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: eight eight eight five point fifty two five fifty the

1124
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: number to get on board. We are going to crack

1125
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: open the tweetsheet on this subject in the interim here as.

1126
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: There were a lot.

1127
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: Of responses at one Bill's Live on the Twitter page

1128
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: and a variety of takes on this as well. So

1129
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: let me just pull this up real quick. Hold on,

1130
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 3: I got to track it down and our first one

1131
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: comes from Tiffany. He said it would be great to

1132
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: have him back to start the season. However, with the

1133
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: addition of Leonard Floyd, he gives Von time to make

1134
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: sure he's one hundred percent healthy. He was greatly missed

1135
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: the second half of the season. I would much rather

1136
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: have him full strength for the playoffs. Would you call

1137
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: it recency biased? Steve that after not having him for

1138
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: the stretch last year and seeing the difference in the

1139
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: past rush in his absence, that people just automatically are

1140
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: saying stretch run only. I don't care about the first

1141
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: ten games, but stretch run, I don't care.

1142
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: You think it's somewhat of a knee jerk reaction.

1143
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: The only reason anybody has the conversations because you're worried

1144
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 4: about him getting hurt again in a game that when

1145
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 4: then taking him out and he don't have him at all.

1146
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do if you hold him out

1147
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: the first ten games of the season, he comes in

1148
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 4: week eleven and he gets hurt. You know, you can't

1149
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 4: tell the future. If the guy's ready, you pay him

1150
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: to play, let him play. And it's easy enough to say,

1151
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 4: just just make sure. And certainly it's a good football

1152
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: team with or without Vaughn, and you would think they're

1153
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: going to win their share of games even if Vaughn

1154
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: never takes another snap for him this roster, the way

1155
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: is currently constructed. I don't know how you and I

1156
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: get it too. It's about the end of the season.

1157
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 4: It's about the championship round, it's about the you know,

1158
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: wild card Divisional championship and the super Bowl round of

1159
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: the playoffs is what it's all about. So these seventeen

1160
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: games before that are a prelude to getting into the

1161
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 4: tournament and then turning it on at the right time.

1162
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: And you know, Vaughn is a perfect on off switch,

1163
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 4: right you put him in and let's switch it on.

1164
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 4: Let's go I get that, but the guy's a football player.

1165
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: He wants to play. He's on your team. It's silly

1166
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 4: not to use him. Right, And I'll say this too

1167
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 4: as a former player, Why is it you're all worried

1168
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: about von You're playing me one hundred and fifty plays

1169
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: a game. Now, now Vaughn doesn't have to play, you're

1170
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: worried about him getting hurt?

1171
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: What about me?

1172
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 4: Right? I know, you know I'm covering kicks out here,

1173
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: busting wedges up, and nobody cares about me. Right. It's

1174
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: one of those kind of things he ain't gain, you know.

1175
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: It's players don't play the game thing. And now I

1176
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: don't want to get hurt, I better not play. And

1177
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: it's not like that.

1178
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: It's certainly not like that with him, with the mindset

1179
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: you hear it coming out of his mouth.

1180
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: Players want to play in games that matter. They really

1181
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 4: want to play in games that matter. Regular season games matter.

1182
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: That's why. That's why guys take it out of gear

1183
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: in the preseason. They'll go out and they'll they'll give

1184
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 4: you a couple of reps. When they know they're coming out,

1185
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 4: they're done. That's why in games when this team gets

1186
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 4: way up like the comeback game and other games you've

1187
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 4: seem like it teams get way up, then all of

1188
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: a sudden, that other team starts to look really good.

1189
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 4: That's all it takes. If you let up, If you

1190
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 4: let up for like a half a second, that other

1191
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 4: team goes like my old saying, plinketty plink plink boom

1192
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: down the field. And you know that team that couldn't

1193
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 4: get out of its own in the first quarter now

1194
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 4: looks like a juggern on the second half because you're

1195
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: just you let up, You stood up and took a breath.

1196
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: That's all it takes. If you just take the edge

1197
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: off for a half second, that other team's touchdown. That's

1198
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: all it takes. So you know, you get these guys

1199
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 4: like Vaughan out there. If you're ready to go, you go,

1200
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: because that's what it takes to play well in the league.

1201
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: You got to have emotional content, you got to bring

1202
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 4: it all. If he's not ready, that's and that's why

1203
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 4: Chum I think they're completely right in how they handle

1204
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: these guys. If they're not one hundred percent in ready

1205
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: to go, let's go, you can't put them on the

1206
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: field because it shows little thing you know, they just

1207
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: they don't have that impact, impactful mindset. You know, they're

1208
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: not they're not aggressive every moment they're out there and

1209
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: not ready. They're out there looking at everything and reacting

1210
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 4: rather than playing. And when you get like an entire

1211
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 4: team that does that in the second half of a blowout,

1212
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: it shows. So you can't have a guy doing that

1213
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: in the first quarter, you know, if he's not one

1214
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 4: hundred percent ready to go. And that's that's why this

1215
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: is such a big thing for players and teams. If

1216
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: the guy's not one hundred percent physically, it's hard for

1217
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: him to play hard and with emotion and intent and

1218
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 4: aggression when he's not feeling like he's himself, and that's

1219
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 4: it shows up big time.

1220
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: You could see it in Jordan Phillips last year playing

1221
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: with one arm.

1222
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 4: It shows up big time.

1223
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: Cole on the tweets sheet says, very low on the

1224
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: priority list personally, don't think we need to see.

1225
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: Vaughn till October and November.

1226
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: Obviously, I'd love to see him out there as soon

1227
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: as possible, terrorizing quarterbacks, but it's just not worth the

1228
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: risk in my opinion.

1229
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: I get it.

1230
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: And you can make the argument that the schedule is

1231
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: a little softer on the run end then it is

1232
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: once you get into the middle of it and the

1233
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: back end of it. I mean, it's a competitive schedule

1234
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: no matter which way you slice it. But you got

1235
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 3: the you got the Raiders and the Commanders. In weeks

1236
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: two and three, I mean, the Jags will be a

1237
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 3: much improved team and they get to stay in England

1238
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: for an entire week, playing back to back games over there,

1239
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: so they'll have the adjustment advantage to the time change

1240
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 3: and everything.

1241
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: Giants won't be a pushover Patriots Bucks.

1242
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: Okay, you should probably win those two games without a problem.

1243
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: So does it come back for the Bengals game?

1244
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: Like, well, that's the thing. It's that how long you're

1245
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 4: waiting here? That November fifth, I mean.

1246
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 3: He said definitely week six, right, he said, that's the

1247
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: that's his deadline.

1248
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: Like, that's the latest I'm coming back.

1249
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 4: That's the Giant game. Yeah all right.

1250
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, it is a prime time or

1251
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: also Sunday.

1252
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 4: Well it goes Giants, Patriots, Bucks, Bengals, you know, and

1253
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: then yeah, so you look at I mean they're playing

1254
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: night games. They got like three four to twenty five

1255
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: games in a row. And this just in folks, if

1256
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 4: you don't know, the four to twenty five Sunday afternoon

1257
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: window is a massive window for networks.

1258
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: They get a bigger than prime time.

1259
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: It's bigger than primetime. It is the most watched NFL

1260
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: football of the week every single week, the four to

1261
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: twenty five window, regardless of the matchup. Well, mostly because

1262
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: they put big time teams. They put stars in those windows,

1263
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 4: which is you know, this year's and last year is

1264
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 4: the Bills. You know they're not putting the Bills in

1265
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 4: those windows because they you know, nobody wants to watch them.

1266
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 4: It goes they're going again. Here's the four twenty five.

1267
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 4: They go against the Jets, huge game at home here

1268
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: in Buffalo. Then they go to the Eagles NFC champions

1269
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 4: last year in Philly. There's a bye. Then they got

1270
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 4: a four to twenty five against Kansas City. Don't tell

1271
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 4: me they don't. They don't pack those four to twenty

1272
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 4: five games with teams and stars. I mean, that's that's

1273
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 4: three games right there, three out of the four Sundays.

1274
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: Because the Bills have a bye weekend in between Philly

1275
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 4: and Kansas City, they go four to twenty five New York, four,

1276
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 4: twenty five Philly, and for twenty five Kansas City, and

1277
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: then they go to the Cowboys. Dude, everybody wants to

1278
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: see this team.

1279
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: That is obvious and.

1280
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: If you're it's just the way it is. I think

1281
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 4: the rule is in a locker room for the team,

1282
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: for the players, when they talk to themselves quietly and

1283
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 4: when they have conversations off the record, if you're ready

1284
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: to play, you gotta play as a as a really

1285
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: good as a teammate. And a guy like Vaughn, who

1286
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 4: we all know who he is, he can't look you know,

1287
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 4: just all that stuff I said about the emotional It

1288
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: is a risk to play. It is a risk, and

1289
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 4: every player in the locker room is expected to be

1290
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 4: willing to take that risk every single Sunday. And if

1291
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 4: there comes a point when some guy is not willing

1292
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 4: to do that, and that's he's looked down upon, that's

1293
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 4: a strike against him. You've got to be willing to

1294
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 4: go out there with the guy. If you're able, you

1295
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: got to be willing to go. You got to go. Man,

1296
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 4: I'm going and I don't feel my best, you know,

1297
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 4: like I one hundred percent of the guys are gonna

1298
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 4: are gonna be nicked by that time. They're all going

1299
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 4: to be hurting, and you're not willing to go, that's

1300
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 4: a that's a problem. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1301
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: So if you're ready, you gotta go now. It's different

1302
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 4: if the club says you ain't playing and they know it.

1303
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: If the players say they're not letting him play, that's cool,

1304
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: that's cool, and you'll understand the reason too, you know,

1305
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 4: just be ready to and because they'll talk to him too,

1306
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 4: they be ready, bro this and then when that game comes, man,

1307
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: you can tell the adrenaline goes off the charts. The

1308
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: guy's in the tunnel, they're becoming Can you imagine the

1309
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 4: conversations that go on in the tunnel when Vaughan's finally

1310
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 4: out there and he's one hundred percent go and everybody

1311
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: knows it, let's go, bro.

1312
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

1313
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 4: I've been there, man, I've been there when Bruce and

1314
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 4: those guys are Thermon bounces back, you know, Andre bouncing

1315
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 4: back after it is awesome, man. So it's it's something

1316
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: to think about. If the guy's ready to go and

1317
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: the club doesn't want him to, they want to save him.

1318
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 4: That's one thing and the and the players are gonna

1319
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: all right cool. I get it because he's and I

1320
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: because I know how good he is. But if he's

1321
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: ready to go in the and he and he and

1322
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to go because he doesn't feel it,

1323
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 4: you really got to be ready for you, got it.

1324
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 4: That's that's a problem. I think.

1325
01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 3: Back on the tweet sheet, Austin says very critical need

1326
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: to set the tone and rhythm of the d early

1327
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: on and keep it strong all season to be ready

1328
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: for a playoff run. The season is so long and

1329
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 3: arduous though, and changes so much from week to week.

1330
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: Sure you can set the tone early on. I mean,

1331
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: look at the Bills. They won their first two games

1332
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 3: last year, thirty one to ten and forty one to seven.

1333
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: It's sustaining that.

1334
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: That's the problem or the challenge, I should say, not

1335
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: a problem, that's the challenge.

1336
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

1337
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: I think the Bills have a roster that's deep enough

1338
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 3: that I think it can sustain them and help them

1339
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: win games. And really, and I brought this up to

1340
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 3: James Palmer, Leonard Floyd is the perfect answer to not

1341
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: having Vaughn. It's a proven veteran pass rushing performer with

1342
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: skins on the wall. I mean, the guy has done

1343
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 3: it successfully for a long time, and believe it or not,

1344
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 3: one of his more underrated characteristics is his run stopping ability.

1345
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: He has always been a great edge stter.

1346
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 4: He plays with great leverage, so.

1347
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 3: There is no need to rush Vaughn back, and so

1348
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 3: that's what makes me very curious to see how they

1349
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 3: handle this. We know the athletic training and medical staffs

1350
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: for the Bills usually air on the side of caution.

1351
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what Vaughn's designation is at

1352
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: the start of training camp.

1353
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: Is the active pup. I don't think he's going to

1354
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 2: be reserve.

1355
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: Pup because if he is ahead of schedule and he

1356
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 3: does have a chance of coming back before week six,

1357
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: you don't want to cross that out as an option

1358
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 3: on day one by we're putting him on reserve pup.

1359
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: It's easy here, we're sitting here in July talking about this.

1360
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: We forget sometimes when we're in the midst of the

1361
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: season and how much we all of us pour into

1362
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 4: these games and none of us play, and except for

1363
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 4: the players and the co just coach and stuff. We

1364
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: all sit and watch like Brownie and I and all

1365
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 4: of us, all of our families, all Bill's mafia, everywhere,

1366
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: all over the world. We all just kind of watch,

1367
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: and we all pour an enormous amount of importance into

1368
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: these games. When we get into the regular season, it's

1369
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 4: it will be it won't be any of this. I

1370
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: just want to see him ready for the playoffs. It

1371
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 4: will be this. If he's ready to go, we need him.

1372
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: This week we got Oh my gosh, it's and this

1373
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 4: is no lie. It'll be like, oh my gosh, it's

1374
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: week three and it's the Washington Commanders. We gotta have him.

1375
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 4: Oh my god, No, it's week three and it's the Commanders.

1376
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 4: That's what it is. In July right, we're sitting that's

1377
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: Week three Commanders. You know, we don't need him that much.

1378
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 4: But when the game comes, it's like, oh my gosh,

1379
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 4: do this without Vaughan. What are we gonna do? That's

1380
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: that's how different it gets. Regular season. These games are hard, man,

1381
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 4: so we it's easy enough to do this, like I

1382
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: said July eleventh, nobody's even gotten a training camp. But

1383
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 4: when you get into the regular season and these games

1384
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 4: start rolling by, somehow they geem a more important in

1385
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 4: week three out of conference on the road. We need

1386
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: him at FedExField. We got to get him in there

1387
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 4: if you can. That's what's going to happen. You know.

1388
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 2: The urgency goes through the roof.

1389
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: Duke says it would be great to have him back,

1390
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: but I feel games in January are way more important

1391
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: than games in September and part of October for this team.

1392
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: He needs to be healthy and at one hundred percent.

1393
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I think by that point in the season.

1394
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: It should be a foregone conclusion.

1395
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: And as Vaughan has said himself, he expects to be

1396
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: back full go, ready to roll by week six at

1397
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: the latest, which I believe is the week after the

1398
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: London game, that's the Giants game at home on Sunday

1399
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: Night Football, which would still put him at probably about

1400
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: eleven months since the injury. It's still not even a

1401
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 3: full year. So he's expecting he's back before a year

1402
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: ticks on the calendar from this injury, no matter what,

1403
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: like that's that's the last, that's the latest he expects

1404
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: to come in.

1405
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I wonder when he says come back, what

1406
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 4: it's gonna look like, whether it's gonna be a ramp

1407
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 4: up until that's one hundred percent. Where he's gonna be

1408
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 4: at one hundred percent or is that where he's gonna

1409
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 4: begin to ramping because there you know, he's not gonna

1410
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 4: come in and take sixty snaps on defense. Well he

1411
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 4: may never do that anyway. Roll now, that's what I'm saying. Though,

1412
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 4: Are they gonna come back and give him a full

1413
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: compliment of places?

1414
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: Are they gonna crack give.

1415
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 4: Him first six plays?

1416
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: You know, probably not the first because it's hard to

1417
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: replicate real football.

1418
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: As you know, so right, so that what they could do,

1419
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 4: and there's you can all figure it out. We can

1420
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 4: figure out for ourselves. They can say, von, you're gonna

1421
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 4: take a regular rotation through the first quarter, and then

1422
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna take every third down and through the rest

1423
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 4: of the first half, and then the second half, we're

1424
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 4: only gonna give you a third and seven plus, you

1425
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 4: know what I'm mean that kind of thing. So if

1426
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 4: so they you know, they can they can shelter him

1427
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 4: from having to run stuff that kind of stuff, take

1428
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: on guards and stuff in the run game. Oh that's

1429
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 4: kind of thing. But yeah, it's all gonna come down

1430
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 4: to how it goes and when is when's that gonna begin.

1431
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 4: When are we gonna first see him go out stand

1432
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: there in a real uniform and start taking reps, Because

1433
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 4: then that's what we'll tell you what the team thinks.

1434
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: Well, I think, what do you mean what the team thinks?

1435
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: Well? If the team comes out without the players or no,

1436
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the coaching staff like and Brandon Art Like,

1437
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 4: are they gonna treat him like they did Daikon Jones

1438
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 4: in the playoffs? I No, you ain't going I know

1439
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 4: you want to, but you ain't going right. You're not real,

1440
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 4: You're not read. I don't want to. It's not worth

1441
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: it to your career to let you go, even though

1442
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: you want to appreciate you. But no, that kind of

1443
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 4: thing is that gonna happen? Get it? It has to

1444
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 4: other players on this team.

1445
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 3: Garvey makes a good point here on the tweets sheet.

1446
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: He says, I don't think it's crucial let the guys

1447
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,919
Speaker 3: learn to play without him early so they can benefit

1448
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 3: from what he will add to the defense later in

1449
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: the season. The defensive line is much deeper this year

1450
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: than it was last year. I would have to agree

1451
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 3: with that, not just at the defensive end position. I

1452
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 3: would argue it's deeper at the defensive tackle position too,

1453
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 3: and knowing you have that depth, I think affords you

1454
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: the luxury of saying, you know what, Vaughn, let's not

1455
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: rush this thing. Let's just pace you through the early

1456
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 3: stages of this and when we feel you're ready, we'll

1457
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: get you on the field.

1458
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 7: Right.

1459
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 4: You've got Ed, You've got Jordan Phillips, You've got de

1460
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 4: Kwon Jones, and you've got Poona Ford. Those four guys

1461
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 4: are a better rotation than they were last year. And

1462
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 4: it particularly obviously that they stay healthy and Jordan Phillips

1463
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 4: comes back one hundred percent healthy because he was he

1464
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 4: was playing dynamite early last year until thanks so they

1465
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 4: can get those guys on the defensive line should be

1466
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 4: a notch better at least than what it was a

1467
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 4: year ago, particularly with Leonard Floyd and Poona Ford and

1468
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 4: a healthy group to start the season. Anyway, Yeah, it's

1469
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 4: gonna be fun to watch. And Jordan Palmer said it,

1470
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: not Jordan Palmer. James Palmer said it when he was

1471
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 4: on the show in the first hour. If this club

1472
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 4: can get pressure fast with just four guys. We've said

1473
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: it a lot on the show. If they can get

1474
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 4: pressure with four fast, with just the four, your defense

1475
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 4: is gonna be elite, elite, And they've got a chance

1476
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 4: to do that with this group. I mean, I'm talking

1477
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 4: about all eight guys rotating through four to time in

1478
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 4: whatever combination you pick. They've got a chance to get

1479
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 4: quick pressure with only four. That's enormous in this league,

1480
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 4: and I think they've got a chance to be that

1481
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 4: kind of team.

1482
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 3: Take time for us here, still open to your phone

1483
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 3: calls at eight h three oh five fifty one eight

1484
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: eight five point fifty two fiot fifty.

1485
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: When we come back, there might be.

1486
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: A little time for some NFL true false. We'll open

1487
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: up that vault and see what's on the list.

1488
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: Next.

1489
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 3: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's

1490
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1491
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1492
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: Chris Brown Steve cast review and it's been a while Steve,

1493
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: so we're gonna crank it out here. It's time for

1494
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 3: a little NFL true false, brought to you by Patron Tequila,

1495
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 3: the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills. And we begin

1496
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: with question number one True false. If Jimmy Garoppolo cannot

1497
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: play this season, the Raiders should lure Tom Brady out

1498
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 3: of retirement.

1499
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 7: True.

1500
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: I think I just threw up in my mouth.

1501
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: True, why not? They'd sell tickets?

1502
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: He knows. Josh McDaniels. Now here's the thing.

1503
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 3: He's also a minority steakholder owner of the Raiders.

1504
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: He's in.

1505
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if that process got completed, but we

1506
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: saw that earlier this offseason, buying a portion of the

1507
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 3: Raiders ownership. He's a minority stakeholder.

1508
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 4: He's a He shouldn't have done that.

1509
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: I do remember reading a story where it is permissible

1510
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: to do so.

1511
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: I get it, like to play for a team in

1512
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 3: which you're problem.

1513
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember this. There's an I'd

1514
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,480
Speaker 4: love to hear the ins and outs of this legality

1515
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: because Al Davis really never owned the Raiders. He was

1516
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 4: the managing general partner. He got everybody else to put

1517
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 4: the money up for the team, and he gets to

1518
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 4: say where the money goes. So it's not like he's

1519
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,879
Speaker 4: Mark Davis is the owner. He's the managing general partner,

1520
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 4: and I don't know how that worked. Now, certainly he

1521
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 4: is the voice of the Raiders and he has the

1522
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 4: authority to do whatever he wants and all that, but

1523
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: he does not own the team. So if he sells

1524
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 4: tom Brady part of the team, there's no guarantee tom

1525
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 4: Brady gets anything in return, even if the team is

1526
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 4: sold by Mark Davis.

1527
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: I would tend to think he'd get something. Well, if

1528
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: he's got a good attorneys, he'll get something, right.

1529
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 4: But that's a so it's a strange setup. So if

1530
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 4: he agreed to.

1531
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: Purchase a minority ownership stake in the Raiders, that was

1532
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: announced and publicized in May, it is subject to NFL approval. Now,

1533
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 3: whether that happened at the last round of meetings, I

1534
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 3: do not know, but I would assume the owners of

1535
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 3: this league would welcome a guy like Tom Brady trying

1536
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,839
Speaker 3: to get an ownership stake.

1537
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: In a team. That's just that's good pub sure.

1538
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: To answer this question, I would say false because I

1539
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 3: don't want to see Tom Brady on an NFL field

1540
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 3: as a player again.

1541
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 4: I'm done, not even if he stinks and he's getting there.

1542
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 3: I just I just I don't even want to look

1543
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 3: at him, especially after retiring twice, Like, really, we're gonna.

1544
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: Do that again?

1545
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not coming back.

1546
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna do that again, he's not even.

1547
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 4: For Sean, even for Josh mcdosh McDaniels not shown Josh McDaniels,

1548
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 4: he's not coming back. I get it, but it's interesting

1549
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 4: because I I don't in my mind, Jimmy Garoppolo is

1550
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 4: not as good as Derek Carr.

1551
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: And he's got a log injury list.

1552
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 4: So let me say what you want. I the trader.

1553
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 4: The Raiders traded down for Garoppolo, so I'm it doesn't

1554
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 4: It won't surprise me if they're the.

1555
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 3: Thing with Jeric kind of became an untenable situation. I mean,

1556
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 3: they they benched him. It's like the guy's done everything

1557
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 3: in his power for that team now with very limited success.

1558
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 4: And questionable support.

1559
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 3: But well, exactly, and that's why he has even said

1560
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 3: in recent interviews, once that happened, we were done.

1561
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: So you get it.

1562
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 3: I don't know that it makes him better though, because

1563
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they are NFL true false. Number two

1564
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 3: Steve Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson will become the highest

1565
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 3: paid non quarterback in the NFL. The contract, just for reference,

1566
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: the contract he has to beat is the Aaron Donald deal,

1567
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: which averages thirty one point sixty six million dollars a year.

1568
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say false. Okay, if Tyreek Hill couldn't get there,

1569
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 4: he's certainly not going to get there.

1570
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 3: He had a better season than Tyreek last year, and

1571
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 3: Tyreek makes thirty.

1572
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I you know, Kirk Cousins is the guy there,

1573
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 4: and he you know, he's available all the time, so

1574
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 4: he's going to get more chances than Tua does throwing

1575
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 4: to Tyreek. No, I say no, there are too many

1576
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 4: good wide receivers to give that guy that kind of money.

1577
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: He's twenty four years old. You can sign him to.

1578
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: A eight year contracts, spread the money out, and.

1579
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: He'll still be good for you for at least six

1580
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 2: of those.

1581
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 4: Year thirty two million dollar contract. Do the math on

1582
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 4: that quick.

1583
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money.

1584
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 4: What is it?

1585
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: Eight six two hundred, It's over two hundred and forty million.

1586
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 4: For eight years at thirty million bucks.

1587
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: It's two hundred and fifty six million dollars.

1588
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 4: There's a lot of money for dude.

1589
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: He's really good for eight years.

1590
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 4: He's really good into his.

1591
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: That's right when you want to end it, right when

1592
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: you want to end it.

1593
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think he gets to thirty one

1594
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: a year.

1595
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: I think he does. He's got to get more than Tyreek.

1596
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: He had a better season last year. He's got to

1597
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: get more.

1598
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 4: Tyreek was getting thrown to by Skyler Thompson.

1599
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: At the end of the year. I think I think

1600
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 2: he gets thirty one.

1601
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm waffling on whether he gets thirty two average

1602
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 3: annual value. I think the Vikings are not a reckless

1603
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: spending organization.

1604
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 2: They never have been.

1605
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 3: I mean, even with Randy Moss, they didn't go bananas.

1606
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 3: But I think you can take the market value dictates

1607
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 3: based on his production and what Tyreek got last year,

1608
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 3: that he should get thirty one. I don't think the

1609
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 3: Vikings push it to thirty two to eclipse Aaron Donald.

1610
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 3: So I will join you and say false. But it's

1611
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: gonna be close. It's gonna be really close.

1612
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a big number. There's no question.

1613
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: It's gonna be really close.

1614
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 4: Twenty four and crushing it.

1615
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: So it could happen. He could get thirty two. I

1616
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: think it could happen.

1617
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 4: Let me say this, if I'm him, That's where I'm

1618
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 4: starting anyway, Right, You ain't getting it if.

1619
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 9: You don't ask for it, right, yeah, you're certainly asking

1620
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 9: for it. That's that's so much money, man, It's a

1621
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 9: lot of money.

1622
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 2: All right, NFL True false.

1623
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: Number three Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson is playing for his

1624
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: job in twenty twenty three. Talk to James Palmer a

1625
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 3: little bit about this last hour.

1626
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say false because I don't think the contract

1627
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 4: is going to be one that they can get out

1628
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 4: of that easily. But if if all things were being equal,

1629
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: and if they wanted to they could move away from them,

1630
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 4: I might be more inclined to say yes. True, but

1631
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 4: I would well, I don't know. Maybe I'll say yes

1632
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 4: because Sean Payton. If Sean Payton comes out and says

1633
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 4: to the ownership, the Walton family says this guy, he's done,

1634
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 4: we can't do it with this guy, they may listen.

1635
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 4: And if there's there is no owner with deeper pockets

1636
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 4: than the Broncos ownership group, nobody, right, So if they

1637
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: want it, if they want to cut bait, they can

1638
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 4: say listen that you know so. And certainly every player

1639
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: to a certain extent playing for his job every year

1640
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 4: all that, and I get all that, but yeah, I

1641
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 4: could see that, particularly because of the Sean Payton factor.

1642
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 4: He could come in say the you know what, this

1643
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 4: is not our guy. We got to do.

1644
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: Something, you know, Yeah, you asked, so I looked it up.

1645
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 3: The out in Wilson's contract is not until twenty twenty six.

1646
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 4: Whoof, they're gonna try and make it work woof, right.

1647
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean we had James Palmer on as

1648
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: I said, last hour, talking about this and he was saying,

1649
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 3: if Sean Payton can't fix him.

1650
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 4: That's right, it's over now. Sean. And I'll say this

1651
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 4: to Sean Payton does not like.

1652
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,440
Speaker 2: He's thirty four. He's not a spring chicken.

1653
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 4: Right, Sean Payton does not lack confidence for being able

1654
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 4: to fix guys and coach him up. He yes, and

1655
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 4: he'll he'll scheme it up, coach he'll get He'll maximize

1656
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 4: whatever Russ has to give. He's gonna do that this year. Now,

1657
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 4: his roster may not be perfect to do that, but

1658
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 4: he's gonna get what he can out of it. Sean

1659
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 4: Payton's a really good coach, so he'll do that. And

1660
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 4: if he comes back at the end of the year

1661
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 4: and says, bro we gotta do something about the quarterback,

1662
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 4: they may they may, but that's what it depends not

1663
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: it's not it is on Russ, but it's on what

1664
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 4: Russ is willing. It can convince Sean Payton he's worth

1665
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 4: and I think.

1666
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: It's gotta be better than last year. Right, Yes, I

1667
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 3: was an abomination last year.

1668
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 4: And it might be an abomination in New York Jets

1669
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 4: to this year. It's the same coach.

1670
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: That should be a next the next NFL true false question.

1671
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: Picture if Hackett bombs with Rogers in New York, is

1672
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 3: he done as a coordinator in the league. You just

1673
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: took two generational talents at the quarterback position and submarine

1674
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 3: their careers and their team's fortunes.

1675
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 2: In back to back seasons.

1676
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Picture Wiley Coyote with a dynamite plunge.

1677
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 4: He's got that thing and he goes pushes it down

1678
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 4: and it explodes right hit, he explodes face. That's exactly

1679
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 4: what it would be. And that's what's gonna be in

1680
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 4: New York. If they don't get on Oh my god,

1681
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 4: the Bills go in there and lump them up early

1682
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 4: on Monday night football, it'll get ugly quick.

1683
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 6: Now.

1684
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 4: I don't think that's gonna happen. I think the Jets

1685
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 4: is gonna be a good football team. I think it's

1686
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 4: gonna be a great game. I think that may be

1687
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 4: in the first part of the Bill schedule. That Jet

1688
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 4: game may be the roughest game in the first five

1689
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 4: six weeks, all the way up to the Giant game.

1690
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 4: That Jet game is going to be a hard thought game.

1691
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: It's a biggie. We have to take a break here,

1692
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 2: but that is NFL true false.

1693
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: Presented by Patrolling Tequila, the official tequila the Buffalo Bills.

1694
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 3: Some final thoughts from the tweet sheet when we return

1695
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: here on one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

1696
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, some final thoughts on the

1697
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 3: tweet sheet before we're out of here concerning how critical

1698
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 3: it is to get von Miller back sooner rather than later.

1699
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 3: Andrew on the tweet she says, I think with the

1700
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 3: talent we have right now, we'll make the playoffs with

1701
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: no issue. I'd rather have a healthy von Miller in

1702
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So he sits still, then I'm okay with that.

1703
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 3: Need him to be one hundred percent because he's the

1704
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 3: answer to get us to the super Bowl.

1705
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: In the playoffs.

1706
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: Connor says, I don't believe it's very crucial. All the

1707
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: new additions on the d line offer the Bills time

1708
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: to let Vaughn get back to one hundred percent. I

1709
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if he starts the season on the

1710
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 3: pup list and misses the first four games. Floyd and

1711
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: Ford are amazing additions go Bills. I don't think there's

1712
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: been enough credit given to Brandon being in his personnel

1713
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: department for what they added post draft. Yeah, big name

1714
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 3: guys to affordable contract.

1715
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 4: Buona Ford and Leonard Floyd. I don't know if you

1716
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 4: if you look back, I was like, we didn't see

1717
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 4: that coming. They were too good, yeah to be out,

1718
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 4: and we thought they'd be too expensive whatever. You all

1719
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 4: the excuses we always use, and yet here they are,

1720
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 4: and I think that gives them the added security to

1721
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: let Vaughan take his time.

1722
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,959
Speaker 3: There's any question they make him appreciably better upfront.

1723
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: That's all for us.

1724
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 3: Here on a Tuesday, Steve and I back for the

1725
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live.

1726
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: We'll see at once