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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: My name is Matt, my name is Noel, and our

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Speaker 2: compatriot Ben is out on adventures today. And this is uh,

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Speaker 2: this is listener mail.

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. Listen, we are joined as always.

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Speaker 3: We have to say, oh gosh, our Tennessee pal, Dylan

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Speaker 3: Fagan as well as you.

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Speaker 2: I remember Tennessee growing up being a tricky state to spell,

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Speaker 2: and we had to have a bit of a not

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Speaker 2: a pneumonic but like a T E N N E

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Speaker 2: s see right, isn't that right? In Double's Lesses to

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Speaker 2: do for Me? Okay Double A's Double Lesses, Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of ease and SSEs. How you doing, man?

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm doing good. I'm we just recorded an

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Speaker 3: episode where I was eating a whole bunch of these

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Speaker 3: tie red chilies and I'm finally feeling Okay.

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Speaker 2: What was what were you trying? What are you trying

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Speaker 2: to prove?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Well, in my mind, I had a bigger thing

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Speaker 3: to it, and I was gonna announce, Hey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: eat these peppers during the episode and see if I

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Speaker 3: can keep my cool mental. Well yeah, but I was

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Speaker 3: gonna do it the whole time and eat. I only

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Speaker 3: ate like a third of four peppers, so I have

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Speaker 3: one point three pepper.

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Speaker 2: What's the Scoville scale for these PEPs.

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Speaker 3: It's somewhere between fifty and one hundred K.

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Speaker 2: So I love that, you know, I was, I was,

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Speaker 2: I was, I was bluffing, not bluffing, But no, well done.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's high, right, It's it's it's pretty high.

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Speaker 2: How high does it go? What's the scale? What's the

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Speaker 2: range for the Scoville scale?

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it's it's in the millions. But you

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Speaker 3: get some of those specialty peppers that are like just

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Speaker 3: bread specifically to have the most.

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Speaker 2: Poisoned meat basically. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but these are, like, you know, just standard peppers.

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Speaker 3: You find a tai cuisine a bunch of like Chinese cuisine,

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Speaker 3: other cuisine there. I think they're called bird's eye chili,

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Speaker 3: but there are different.

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Speaker 2: Versions of them. I'll tell you. If I'm making a

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Speaker 2: add just one Thai chili, right, and if I want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you really neat.

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Speaker 2: I know it really has You're you're you're at what

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Speaker 2: they call a bit of a is masochist, sata masochist.

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Speaker 3: No, I am, well, I think there's something fascinating in

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Speaker 3: that episode we we're referencing there is about resisting interrogation

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Speaker 3: and things. And I still firmly believe that all of

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Speaker 3: that stuff, the fear response, the fight or flight and

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Speaker 2: It always brings to mind when Hoff and the guy,

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Speaker 2: You know, well, even it's a cold plunge, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Will do that. The place is called Strange Taco. It's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like one of those if you

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Speaker 3: But parking is fine, just if you got a little

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Speaker 3: But it is in fact Doctor Strange themed and it

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Speaker 3: is fabulous, and I would recommend it to anyone.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Strange the Marvel Wizard, not Doctor Strange. Love or

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Speaker 2: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the bomb.

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Speaker 3: You are correct, you you were actually you were you

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Speaker 3: were wrong because I was wrong. It is Doctor Strange

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Dan, Well, then my follow up about Doctor

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Speaker 2: Strange the Marvel Wizard is now rendered irrelevant. But I'm

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Speaker 2: Kubrick's film of lampooning a lot of things that we're

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Speaker 2: like the late sixties. Hey, Matt, enough chitter chatter. Let's

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Speaker 2: to start us off with a super fun voicemail from Beefy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, and you ready for this A little

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Speaker 3: transition here. Outside of nukes, there are still some weird,

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Speaker 3: And BEF has called us with a question about.

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Speaker 2: Those Oh buy, are you talking about susical and the

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Speaker 2: musical the weapon of Mass Destruction? No?

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Speaker 3: Not this time.

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Speaker 2: Well I think, yeah, we're on the same page.

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Speaker 3: No, BV is called in specifically about lasers, and let's see,

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Speaker 3: let's see where he's going with this. So BF to you, sir.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, it's BF from Denver, and I was just

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Speaker 5: listening to some news about lasers shutting down the airport

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Speaker 5: moret guests there listening to stuff you should know talk

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Speaker 5: about lasers and how those work. It'd be cool to

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Speaker 5: do an episode on lasers, or at least some understanding

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Speaker 5: of what happened at the Alpasa airport. Remember the whole

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Speaker 5: like Star Wars program that the Reagan was doing. I

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Speaker 5: of conspiracies and stuff like that. I know that we

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Speaker 5: use them in everyday use, but I also know that

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Speaker 5: they're the subject of a lot of movies and cartoons

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Speaker 5: verse reality with lad Thanks guys, Remember it's more punk based.

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Speaker 3: I think he said it's more punk based, which is

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Speaker 3: a reference to another call Beefy made to us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't recall I love stuff that's.

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Speaker 3: Punk when it was on the reality show with the Judge.

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Speaker 3: I think that's correct. That is correct, Dylan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like one of those Judged Judy type shows.

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Speaker 2: He and his friend pretended to go on and have

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Speaker 3: They're asking about his band, and he said something about

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Speaker 3: it's more punk based.

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Speaker 2: I think we did say punk based, and I think

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Speaker 2: we must have thought that was funny. Yeah, And when

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Speaker 2: we talked about that really quickly before we jump into lasers,

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Speaker 2: which I'm excited to do. If my little reference earlier

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Speaker 2: was not landing. When I said Susicle the musical the weapon,

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Speaker 2: I was, of course referring to the discombobulator, which is

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Speaker 2: apparently a new fangled contraption that you know, El Presidente

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Speaker 2: And when asked what it does, he said, it discombobulates.

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Speaker 2: using you know, this technology to disrupt all of their stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the big question still, I think the remains

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the funny thing is I think some

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Speaker 2: directed energy? And I was going to ask you too,

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Speaker 2: Matt Like, there's obviously uses for laser that are more

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Speaker 2: comms based. You know, you can transmit information through focused light.

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Speaker 2: Fiber optics is not laser exactly, but it's in the

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Speaker 3: The word, but we are developing them, and we're focusing

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Speaker 3: on it because of drone warfare. I think that's really

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Speaker 3: the impetus to get us two more energy based weapons

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Speaker 3: that can, let's say, disable an entire swarm of drones

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Speaker 3: that is exactly what the US military, China's military, Russia's military,

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Speaker 2: It, causing it to fritz out, basically like yah overheating

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Speaker 3: It's it's all about the energy that you can throw

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Speaker 3: Physical meltiness, Babe, exactly. Well, well, Bfi, to your point,

435
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Speaker 3: I think it is worth our time to do an

436
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Speaker 3: entire laser's episode. I think we've wanted to do this before.

437
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was U Beef, you're somebody

438
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: else who called in and said, hey, let's talk more

439
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: about lasers after the fires in Hawaii and there were

440
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 3: so many rumors about there being some kind of directed

441
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Speaker 3: energy laser weapon that started those fires again, rumors, there's

442
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 3: some conspiracy theories about that, and then stuff that Marjorie

443
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: Taylor Green was talking about.

444
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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, I.

445
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: Forgot and all of that, well, that all stuff was

446
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: stemming from some of the forest fires and how they began.

447
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 3: A lot of it is pretty easily disputable, I think.

448
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: But then some of the weird stuff with like blue

449
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: roofs on certain houses and things that would potentially reflect

450
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 3: a blue laser beam very interesting.

451
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Speaker 2: Well, Matt. Most importantly, in terms of anybody's perspective on

452
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: all this stuff, I want to know what the insane

453
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: clown posse has to say about how laser's work.

454
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Speaker 3: Well, they're putting it out there. We know you're listening

455
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: ICP folks, So get to us, and what do you

456
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: think about these lasers? Well, hey, whylet me take a break.

457
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: We'll be right back afterword from our sponsors.

458
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Speaker 2: Sounds good, and we have returned. I have some fun

459
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Speaker 2: laser talk.

460
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's so funny.

461
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: If nothing, you know, it's it's still to this day

462
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: kind of feels like the most futuristic thing, and yet

463
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: we know it's also like a toy that you can

464
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: use like with to you know, mess with your cat.

465
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: We're finally getting to a place where we have space

466
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Speaker 2: lasers on the horizon.

467
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Speaker 3: Have you ever had a cat that loves a laser pointer?

468
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Speaker 2: Do you think they love it? Or do you think

469
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: it's like antagonistic? Is my question? H I don't know.

470
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Speaker 3: The only time it's ever worked for me is on

471
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Speaker 3: one of the cats my family had.

472
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Speaker 2: Someone just ignore it.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, someone dolion. There's like, what are you doing?

474
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Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? I've never seen your holding

475
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Speaker 2: it make a cat nuts. I've never not like totally

476
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Speaker 2: make it do a thing.

477
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Speaker 3: Wow, man, hah, I just I don't get it. I

478
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: had a dog that would go nuts for a laser pointer.

479
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: Penny she was like this Tennessee tree hound mix and

480
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Speaker 3: oh man, if you shot a laser pointer anywhere near

481
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: the floor, she would just go nuts for that thing.

482
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Speaker 3: It was so much fun. She loved chasing it.

483
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Speaker 2: Penny the Tennessee tree pal Yep, yeah, yeah, Well, Matt,

484
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: I've got a fun one that I think we all

485
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: saw in the wild when this happened, and I'm just

486
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: gonna jump right to it as a message from our

487
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: buddy who goes by the name only Nol should have

488
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: facial hair, which maybe is like a micro aggression towards

489
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: Ben's mustache, which I think is amazing. But I do

490
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: appreciate I do appreciate this, this this reference here. But

491
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 2: I think you know, we can all have facial hair.

492
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: We're grown man. If you can grow it, flaunt it.

493
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: That's what I say. So jumping in, how's it going,

494
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: Hope that Netflix money is good? It's there's no Netflix money.

495
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: We do it for the for the love of the game.

496
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: So recently on Brian Taylor Cohen's YouTube channel, which I

497
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: quite enjoy, Obama, that's President Barack who saying Obama said

498
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: aliens were real. He also said his first question as

499
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: president was were there aliens. Let's let's take a pause there,

500
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: because he does eventually kind of come back and clarify

501
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: his statement. This was part of this is Me Now,

502
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: a thing that Brian Taylor Tyler Cohen does on his

503
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: video interviews. He does kind of a lightning round. It's

504
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: meant to be sort of zippy. You know. He asks

505
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: like quick questions and then you know, gets quick responses,

506
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: then moves on Obama, does you know say aliens are real?

507
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Speaker 4: Yes?

508
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Speaker 2: I think is all he said. I think the question

509
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: was our aliens real? And Obama said yes, but they

510
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: don't they they're not being hidden at an Area fifty one.

511
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: He even has trouble come up with the name at

512
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: the top of his head, Area fifty one, and he said,

513
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: unless there's some conspiracy, that's that that went above above

514
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: me where they're keeping this from the president. I do

515
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: not think that there are any you know, at evidence

516
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: that we have of aliens. So let's start from there. Matt,

517
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Speaker 2: do you think that's like a hot hot take? Is

518
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: he going for clicks there like it's it's yeah, well, it's.

519
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: It's tough to know. Sounded to me. Sounded to me

520
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: like the former president was just doing his thing and

521
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: quick and you know, and feeling the tone of the

522
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: interview and having some fun with it. But I do

523
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know that we just a two parter

524
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Speaker 3: on the Legacy Program. And that's not because we thought

525
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: it was a silly thing to talk about. It's because

526
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: it's it's a topic that is being taken seriously by

527
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Speaker 3: people in high levels of our government, and it is

528
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: something that has been you know, the X Files in

529
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three was talking about this thing, basically, the

530
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: Legacy Program that would be kept from the President of

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Speaker 3: the United States.

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Speaker 2: That is a good point, Matt. That would be the

533
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Speaker 2: thing that Obama was referencing, I mean, not him, maybe

534
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: not directly what he was referring to, but if there

535
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: were a consorted you know, the cover up of some

536
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: kind that goes deeper than you know, what we would

537
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: think is the highest office in the land, that's what

538
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: the Legacy program is referring to.

539
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if there is something like that, maybe President

540
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: Obama doesn't know about it. Maybe President Trump doesn't know

541
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: about it. Maybe you know, when President Clinton allegedly went

542
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: in and asked about it, he wasn't actually told the truth.

543
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Speaker 2: M There's no way for us to know, yeah, sort

544
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: of the nature of it, Yeah, I mean, you know,

545
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this too, the disclosure of it

546
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: all being a little underwhelming when that happened, you know,

547
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: or the version of it we got, which was kind

548
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: of the government acknowledging yeah, there's some sort of unexplained

549
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: aerial phenomenon on the tic TAC video and all of

550
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: that stuff, but never fully going so far as to

551
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: acknowledge life on. You know, they're almost more referring to

552
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: the technology than they are to like any kind of creature,

553
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't you say?

554
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I was having a conversation about this pretty recently, Noel,

555
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: just outside of the space of stuff they want.

556
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Speaker 6: You to know.

557
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: But you talk to people not on the podcasts.

558
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Speaker 3: Crazy, that's messed up, isn't that crazy? But I was

559
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: having a conversation about this and trying to even rationalize

560
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: some of the things I kind of am starting to

561
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: believe about it, Okay, like what and well, just realizing

562
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: how woo woo it sounds when you get into the

563
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: some of the physics of it, and like holographic somehow

564
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: projection from four D or five D space onto read

565
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: three dimensional space and what that would look like and

566
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: how it would function. The stuff that's over my head

567
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: and I don't understand. But some of the stuff that's

568
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: talked about in the Age of disclosure and talked about

569
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Speaker 3: by a high level physicist as they're trying to explain

570
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: to people like me how something like that could function

571
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: if you had extra I may have missed this bit.

572
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Speaker 2: This is from some of the disclosure documents, like talking

573
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Speaker 2: about some kind of high level holographic technology. I don't

574
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: it's been a minute since we've talked about that, but

575
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that I got the memo on that one.

576
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: I would say it's hinted at as in, perhaps the

577
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: things we're experiencing, at least some of them, are not

578
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: physical creatures or intelligences or even technology that traveled vast

579
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Speaker 3: distances of space, but somehow bridge bridge a gap into

580
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: three dimensional space that and a time and space that

581
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Speaker 3: we can experience right with just our sensory systems and

582
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: our weapons systems and radar and all that. But actually

583
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: it's just some kind of projection into three D space

584
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: out outside of our understanding of dimension. I'm butchering it like.

585
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Speaker 2: It's fascinating Matt, I want to do a little more

586
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: digging into that, because I I must have missed missed

587
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: that one. Because that's uh. I think that's the interesting

588
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: thing about too these kinds of documents, the sort of

589
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: the data dump method where it takes a lot of

590
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: effort to parse through it all to even find something

591
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: worth paying attention to, like we're seeing with the STO files.

592
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: But that's that's sort of the nature of some of

593
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: the stuff, like when they want to like bury the

594
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: needle in the haystack, and I did not catch that

595
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: particular needle, Matt.

596
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Speaker 3: Well, it's probably because it's a weird one. It doesn't

597
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: really make sense and it's so outlanded.

598
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: That's like a thought experiment. That's super cool.

599
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would just it would make more sense to

600
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Speaker 3: me rationally than the whole vast distance travel with biological

601
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: entities and all that, if it was just something that

602
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: was blipping in for one reason or another. And of

603
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: course you'd have to apply, you know, our own human

604
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: rational thought to why would they do that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

606
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: And that's where I struggled in this discussion I was having,

607
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: like why would something blip in if it was extra dimensional?

608
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: Why would it jump in here and check us out

609
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: for a second. But then I'm seeing news about time

610
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: crystals that are being created. Again. I'm looking at, you know,

611
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: theoretical time travel that doesn't have paradoxes. That's like the

612
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: news is talking about right now.

613
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: I've been up to my ears in time travel fiction lately.

614
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: I just finished the incredible Netflix German language series Dark,

615
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: which deals with wormholes and all of those paradoxes, and

616
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, people end up being their own grandpa and

617
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: stuff through you know, various glitches and time travel and stuff.

618
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: It's such a great show because it has these parallel

619
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Speaker 2: time lines that are happening at the same time, and

620
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: it's just it's really it's a little hard to follow

621
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: at times, and really it rewards your attention. But it's

622
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: not one that you can second screen. But that one

623
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Speaker 2: and then there was another timey whimy. Well, it's gonna

624
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: come back to me. But what about these time cristals.

625
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Speaker 2: I know we've talked about it briefly just in passing

626
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: on I believe strange news, But can you remind me

627
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: a little more about some of the furtherances of these

628
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: types of theoretical you know, discussions.

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Speaker 3: It's just weird, real science stuff that I again do

630
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: not understand. But the idea that, oh how is it

631
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Speaker 3: described in the article I was reading today. Imagine you're

632
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Speaker 3: pushing your child on a swing, and you're pushing them

633
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: once every second. But instead of your child moving up

634
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Speaker 3: and coming back for you to push it every two seconds,

635
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: it moves at a rate of two seconds. But it

636
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: doesn't lose any of its Oh god, I can't even

637
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: do it. I can't even say it right. You're gonna

638
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: have to look it up. I don't understand it. But

639
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: the whole point of talking about time crystals, though, is

640
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: that we're discovering things as a species that is leading

641
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: me closer and closer to this potential thought that at

642
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: some point we find a way to time travel and

643
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: come back, and that like the things we might be

644
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: experiencing really are just us from some far flown future

645
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: in the And then it gives you that reasoning of, well,

646
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: maybe they're coming back to try and prevent whatever it

647
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Speaker 3: is from happening.

648
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: The micro spoiler alert for a decades old movie like

649
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: an Interstellar, Hmmm, well that's the thing that they're experiencing.

650
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 2: They're experiencing this phenomenon that they associate with some sort

651
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: of otherworldly being, but it is in fact us from

652
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: the future reaching back out to us from the past.

653
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: And that's the kind of stuff they they deal with

654
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: in dark It is beyond fascinating and again beyond difficult

655
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: to trap your head around. Matt, you may also be

656
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: referring to this NYU piece or this is a study

657
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: from NYU. Scientists discover levitating time crystals that can you

658
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: can hold in your hand. Time crystals, a collection of

659
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: particles that tick or move back and forth in repeating cycles,

660
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: were first theorized and then discovered about a decade ago.

661
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: While scientists have yet to create commercial or industrial applications

662
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: for this intriguing form of matter, these crystals hold great

663
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: promise for advancing quantum computing and data storage, among other uses.

664
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Speaker 2: So maybe the name time crystals is it sounds like

665
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: something you would use to power the tartists. It's not

666
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: exactly that, but man, it just goes to show how

667
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: little we know.

668
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: How little we don't know. I don't know anything, Yeah.

669
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: Well and neither does Obama. And I love that he

670
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: comes back. And you know, when this starts a real

671
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: hullabaloo online and people saying, see so Obama said it. Obama.

672
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: Obama said there's aliens. He came back on Twitter and said,

673
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: I was trying to stick with the spirit of the

674
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: speed round, but since it's gotten attention, let me clarify.

675
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: And this is sort of the point that I believe

676
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: we're both making. Statistically, the universe is so vast that

677
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: the odds are good that there's life out there, but

678
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: the distances between solar systems are so great that the

679
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: chances we've been visited by aliens is low. And I

680
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made

681
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: contact with us. Really exclamation mark. Our listener goes on,

682
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this reply, and I don't feel

683
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: like it's a walk back. He said a common theory

684
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: that aliens probably exist. This doesn't refute what he said

685
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: earlier about them existing. He also said he saw no

686
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: evidence during his presidency that they have made contact with us.

687
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: What he didn't say was if they made contact with

688
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: us before his presidency, if they made contact with someone

689
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: else during or before his presidency, or if there was

690
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: evidence of aliens that did not make contact before or

691
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: during his presidency seen by us or someone else.

692
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: Wow, it's about what you don't say.

693
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: Huh, it's about the notes not played Matt Well, yes, exactly,

694
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: the spice between who is that money to that is

695
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: that DMB?

696
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: Yes it is.

697
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've got a dear friend of the show who

698
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: thinks that one day, speaking of the future, there will

699
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: be a reassessment of the Dave Matthews Band that will

700
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: determine that they are in fact totally hip, sort of

701
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: like what's happened with Steely Dan. I.

702
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: I still think they're one of the greatest bands ever

703
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: to have watched this planet, but.

704
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: They're you know, unequivocally not cool. All right, I'm sorry,

705
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm being a snarb Dylan. What do you think? I

706
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: know you're a Steely Dan Man. I am very much

707
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: a Steely Dan Man. I am looking at a I

708
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: feel like Pitchfork did a Sunday review of a Dave

709
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: Matthews Band album recently and gave it a pretty much score,

710
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: so they reassessed it. See, Frank nailed it. Frank nailed it.

711
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: Thanks Frank. Don't you know who else nailed it? This

712
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 3: Nole's facial hair character?

713
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Oh big time? What a funny email. Yeah, no, thank you.

714
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: Only nol should have facial hair. I really appreciate that

715
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: I grew a myself. Geez, was that long enough? I've

716
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: got another little blurb. Not that we're like, you know,

717
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: it's a podcast. We can do whatever we want. No,

718
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read the blurb. I'm gonna read the blurb.

719
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: This is in reference to North Dakota and weird missile

720
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: silos and the pyramid building I think for example. Okay, yeah,

721
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: there's actually two two responses to that, Denton, Texas subterranean

722
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: missile silos and bunker type stuff. Hi, Ben Matt Nole,

723
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: I've been listening to your podcast for years now, and

724
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm finally excited to finally see North Dakota being talked about,

725
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: even if it's for a missile base. I grew up

726
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 2: around fifteen miles from Nicoma. It is actually the middle

727
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: of nowhere. I went to ed Moore for which wasn't

728
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: far away, and I only had four kids in my

729
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: graduating class. Jeez, that is small. Not many people are

730
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: around in this area. There are many missile bases or

731
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: missile base sites. Some people even live in them. The

732
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: pyramid shaped building in Nacoma has now been passed around

733
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: to a few people as you were talking on your podcast.

734
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: It still has the tall barred wire fence around it

735
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: as far as I know. I remember kids trying to

736
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: sneak in when I was younger, and that time they

737
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: still had At that time, they still had cameras up.

738
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 2: It's definitely a weird place anyway. I was just wanting

739
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: to say thank you for mentioning it and talking about

740
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: rural North Dakota we aren't talked about very much. Also,

741
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: my family owns a farm up in that area. If

742
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: you ever decided to visit Naicoma, I'm sure my parents

743
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: would love to meet you. Very very sweet, very kind,

744
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: and we would love to do that as well. Yeah,

745
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: that's that's interesting. Can you imagine growing up in a

746
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: place like that, like, and did you do? Did you

747
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: have any weird abandoned buildings or you know, creepy sites

748
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: where you grew up that you would like, you know,

749
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: explore when you weren't supposed to.

750
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna plead the fifth there. In the most part,

751
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: I would just say, I would just say there was

752
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: an abandoned mental health facility.

753
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Near where I grew up. I'm sorry it wasn't haunted.

754
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: I mean I was.

755
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: Positive that it was, and there may have been some

756
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: breaks in the fence in a couple of areas to

757
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: get into the facility, you know, but probably I don't

758
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: think any kids would go in there, you know, looking

759
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: for hauntings and things like that. That would be crazy.

760
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: Abandoned psychiatric hospital is very high on my list of

761
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: that's a nope from me. Places.

762
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: Well, we were curious, okay, I mean somebody might.

763
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: You little devil. I Actually it's funny. Growing up in

764
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: my hometown in Augusta, Georgia, I went to a school

765
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: called Davidson Fine Arts, and I actually went there the

766
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: last I think two years that they were in this

767
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: really old, crazy building that turned out to be full

768
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: of asbestos, and they moved. They built a brand new building,

769
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: and then I was the last class that was in

770
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: the old building and we went to the new building.

771
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: And then I went to that building for some years,

772
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: but they it's the old one just lay like derelict

773
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: for so long, much like the Pont City Market we

774
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: have now here in Atlanta that used to be the

775
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: old city Hall. I think there was a period where

776
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: it was just no attention was paid to it, and

777
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: it was just like this crumbling kind of you know,

778
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: post apocalyptic kind of you know facade, but the old

779
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: Davidson building. I distinctly remember going in there with some

780
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: friends late at night because it was either an open

781
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: window or whatever, and like all of these desks were

782
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: piled up and they were just piles of old textbooks,

783
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: and like there was an isolation booth in the orchestra

784
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: room that he was still in there, and like and

785
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: then the theater. There was like a little theater that

786
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: I think was where most of the asbestos was. All

787
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: the seats were covered in tarps, and we went in

788
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: there and we heard rustlings and we were young enough

789
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: to be super freaked out by that. I'm pretty sure

790
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: some unhoused folks had found, you know, a nice warm

791
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: spot to you know, set up shop under those tarps.

792
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: But it was freaky as al.

793
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: Who wish I was there, I mean that would have

794
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: been fun. I mean, uh, don't go in places.

795
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: What is it what you say? Fifth?

796
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 6: Fifth?

797
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it's.

798
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: Well last one, since we're on the you know weird

799
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: uh subterranean esque type places.

800
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

801
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: This one comes from a buddy by the name of

802
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: Jack the Insomniac. Hello, longtime listener, first time caller. I'm

803
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: from Texas myself, so it's always fun to hear an

804
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: episode that pertains to things nearby. Just listen to the

805
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: episode about Denton, Texas. Funnily enough, I grew up and

806
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: have lived about an hour outside of Dallas my entire

807
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: life and had never heard of that stuff. I don't

808
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: have much to add in regards to the episode itself,

809
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: but if you guys ever find yourselves around DFW, I'd

810
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: be stoked to invite you out for a beer at

811
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: an amazing local brewery. If y'all do that kind of thing, lol,

812
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: we do, Thank you. I can also give you all

813
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 2: a tip for some amazing tacos or barbecue in the area.

814
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm Hispanic, so it takes a lot for me to

815
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: admit tacos are amazing lmao. Hell yeah, I have a

816
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: very high bar, as do we. Insomniac Jack. I like

817
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: that better than Jack Insomniac. Now, whatever man you called it,

818
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: who am I to to revise your incredible nickname. We

819
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: love all these things. We're glad that the Denton subterranean

820
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: kind of potential city thing resonated with folks. We're just

821
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: a fan of that kind of.

822
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: Weird yep tacos and local brewis.

823
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: Well, let's go under around cities. Sign me up or

824
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: get me out of here, Matt, what do you say?

825
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: We take another quick pause for the cause and then

826
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: come back with one last I think you got another

827
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: listener audio piece.

828
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Yes we do, and we've returned. We're gonna jump quickly

829
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: to a message from Nobody Special. That's their nickname.

830
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: Everybody the best part of the show.

831
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: First of all, we completely disagree Nobody Special, but we

832
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: are we are going to jump to stop selling yourself short,

833
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: please seriously, seriously.

834
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

835
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: Hey guys, longtime listener, big fan. You guys can call

836
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: me Nobody Special because that's exactly what I am.

837
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: Hard.

838
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: A few years ago, the great state of California put

839
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: forward the first comprehensive consumer privacy law, I mean I

840
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: states and a lot of other states followed after that

841
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: with basically derivative copycat laws. But there's kind of a

842
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: trojan horse in all these laws. So each of these

843
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: laws give multiple rights. One of them is like the

844
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 4: right to opt out of the sale and sharing, the

845
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 4: right to delete, the right to correct your information. But

846
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: the trojan horse I'm talking about is the right to

847
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: know your information. You have the ability to reach out

848
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: to data brokers and say, hey, what information.

849
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 6: Do you have on me?

850
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: Oh, who are you selling it to? It might be

851
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: good to know for people who are very privacy minded.

852
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: The issue with it, though, is that it is a

853
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: key for hackers or just data feasts in general, to

854
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: go in and get your data from data brokers without

855
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: triggering a data breach, because there's no way for the

856
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 4: data broker to know that it's not you. The government

857
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: essentially gave them the keys. Now you might think, oh, well,

858
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: the data brokers need to have processes in place to

859
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 4: prevent and filter out this fraud, and that would be

860
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 4: great and everything, But at least in California, the regulations

861
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: say that if you're going to deny someone because you

862
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: think they're claim as fraudulent, you have to tell them why.

863
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 4: So the government requires that when you catch a fraudster,

864
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: you have to tell them why you think they're a fraudster,

865
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 4: basically giving them the impetus to be able to subvert

866
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: whatever mechanisms and filters you had in place to catch

867
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 4: them in the first place. And this may sound conspiratorial,

868
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: but I'm telling you right now, I have knowledge of

869
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: people who've already fallen victim of this, people who've already

870
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: had data brokers leak their information to third parties who

871
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 4: happen to have some precursory data from prior data breaches,

872
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 4: a whole new dearth of information from them, and again

873
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: it's all under the table. Nobody knows it's happening because

874
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: the government gave them the mechanism to do this, So

875
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: look into it more. I think it's going to become

876
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: a bigger problem in the future because ultimately, when you

877
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 4: can have basically targeted data harvesting and data theft of individuals,

878
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 4: maybe even high value individuals, without actually having to breach

879
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: a system because the government gave you basically the door

880
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: and the keys to do it, privacy is an illusion. Guys,

881
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: have a great weekend.

882
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: Oh nobody's special my left foot. That was terrifying and phenomenal.

883
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: I mean, what insights because I think we Matt, we

884
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: talked recently about this whole right to be forgotten thing

885
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: or like, you know, how do you reach out and

886
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: find out what they've got on you? Is there a

887
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: method for doing that, And I think I pose the question,

888
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: you know, of what does that look like? And I

889
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: don't know that we got there. But this answers that.

890
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: But is he saying that by doing the people can

891
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: do this on your behalf, pretending to be you, and

892
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: then that gives them access to more data? I think

893
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm a confused.

894
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 3: Okay, you'll have to correct me here if if I'm

895
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: getting this wrong. Nobody special. But my understanding is there

896
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: have been so many data breaches right.

897
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: Over that you've been I've been in multiple Oh.

898
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I think we all have at this point.

899
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: Literally there have been so many from so many different services,

900
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, technology companies, government entities, everything. Yes, yeah, but

901
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 3: you take some of that information that's already been leaked

902
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: that let's say you've gotten access to somehow as a

903
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: bad actor. You use that information to use this new

904
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: program under let's say the California Consumer Privacy Act of

905
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, and you attempt to get the information from

906
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: some data broker about let's say Matt or No or

907
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: Dylan or you.

908
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Or by getting that information, you're getting the.

909
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: Data NOK by attempting to get that data. If let's

910
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: say that data broker senses that something is wrong in

911
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: the force here, they say, hey, you, we think you're

912
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: a fraudster, and here's why, and they have to tell

913
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: you via this law. Here's why. So now you have

914
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: that information, this is why they thought you were not

915
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: really Matt Frederick, you were somebody else.

916
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: So it helps them with their their play, It helps

917
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: them with their their long con Yes, and you.

918
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 3: Do it as many times as you need, to learn

919
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: as much information as you need to until it finally

920
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: goes through.

921
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: I totally missed that point. They're they're learning more and

922
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: more little tips and tricks on how to cheat the system.

923
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: Yes, that's at least what nobody special is saying.

924
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent what he's saying. We

925
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: are only in California. At least he was saying that this,

926
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: this this particular thing was in California.

927
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: Well, the first law in the US for this kind

928
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: of thing happened in California. But since then, you've got

929
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: similar laws in Virginia, Colorado, Connecticut, Iowa, India. I mean

930
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: just there are a bunch of different states now that

931
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: are doing this, and you know the countries that are

932
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: really leading the charge in the stuff and have for

933
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 3: a long time. Places out in the UK, countries in Europe,

934
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: a lot of places like that are having a lot

935
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: more consumer protection laws around, you know, data privacy and

936
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: things like that. But we are attempting, the US is

937
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: attempting to do that state by state. It's just we've

938
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: got a lot to learn still, and I think it

939
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: would be in our best interest, in everybody's best interest,

940
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: to maybe go over the current state of things in

941
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: the US when it comes to this stuff, but in

942
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 3: a larger context, so a larger episode.

943
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's another one of those like technology always outpaces

944
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: legislation situations, and this is one that really affects US.

945
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Matt, but like my phone

946
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: rings ten times a day, and I've got like a

947
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: thing where I've learned making the phone screen the calls.

948
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: But it's all this scam saying that I've got access

949
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: to some crazy loan and it's all via phone bots,

950
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: and I finally figured out how to screen it so

951
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't really bother me all the time. They come

952
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: like sometimes five in our row, and so I guess

953
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: my phone number was in one of these breaches. Thankfully,

954
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't seem to be experiencing any other knock on

955
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: consequences of this stuff, but that to me is the biggest, Like, Okay,

956
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: this is definitely as a result of my stuff being

957
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: out there to some degree.

958
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, on my end, I would just say it is

959
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: time for me to get a new phone number. I

960
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: think it is for me too, for me too, come

961
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: in new phone number on the way, same reasons.

962
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: Yikes.

963
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 3: Speaking of new things, our show is now on Netflix

964
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: twice a week, and things are changing up just a

965
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: little bit on our end of how we do things,

966
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: and that's why Fuzzy wrote into us. Just notice some changes.

967
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: So let's let's hear from Fuzzy quickly and let us

968
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: get you some answers and then we'll get out of here.

969
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: So let's jump to Fuzzy.

970
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I hope FA's okay with y'all. Y'all have

971
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 6: not posted a new video in a couple of weeks

972
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 6: on YouTube, and uh that that's a little concerning, because

973
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 6: that's how I got to listen to y'all. Uh. I

974
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 6: don't know if it's a a business problem or whether

975
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 6: somebody's had some sort of emergency or something. I hope

976
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 6: there's I hope it's planned and it's not something that y'all,

977
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 6: you know, a hiccup of some sort, you know. I

978
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 6: hope there's something like everybody wanted to go on vacation

979
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 6: at the same time or something. But uh, I wish

980
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 6: y'all well, regardless of what's going on, y'all take care,

981
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 6: have fun, and uh, well, we'll see y'all further down

982
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 6: the road.

983
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 4: Right.

984
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: It's fuzzy referring to like YouTube clips or something that

985
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: we're using.

986
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: We used to know this more regularly. Uh, if if

987
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 3: you head on over to YouTube dot com slash conspiracy Stuff,

988
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: you will see that the last video they got posted

989
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 3: there that is just the video is just the audio

990
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: of a podcast.

991
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 2: Oh, we were doing that, I guess. I totally didn't

992
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: even clock that we were still doing that. That's why

993
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: I was confusing.

994
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: Well, the last one posted was our interview with Toby

995
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: Ball for Rip Current Season two, and that was three

996
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: weeks ago as we record on February eighteenth.

997
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: So I had no idea we were still doing that.

998
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: But oh, we're doing something different now, and it's pretty cool.

999
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: Yes, we're doing something different, and we are currently unsure

1000
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: of the future of our YouTube channel, like what's going

1001
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: to be posted there or not, but for sure, twice

1002
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: a week you can get our primary episodes on Netflix.

1003
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: So you have a Netflix account, you can head over

1004
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: there and search for stuff they don't want you to know,

1005
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: or just stuff you'll find us, and you can watch

1006
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 3: those or listen to them however you want to consume them.

1007
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: There will be video of our good faces.

1008
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: We did a good job, well we didn't. I mean,

1009
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: we worked with our video folks, Jordan and Mark to

1010
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: get some fun little sets going in our various studios

1011
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: and situations and got some cool cameras and some lighting

1012
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: and really went a long way to make sure each

1013
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: of our frames shows off our personality. So if you

1014
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: ever want to see what our mugs look like talking

1015
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: and let our little you know, nests look like, that's

1016
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: the way to do it.

1017
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I believe it's JJ that is editing the videos,

1018
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 3: working alongside our most excellent and prestigious U Dylan Fagan

1019
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: to create both the video and audio versions of the show.

1020
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: But so that's one way. The other way is through

1021
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: like Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else that gets our

1022
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 3: RSS feed just for the audio podcast. You can still

1023
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: hear five episodes a week every week that way, so

1024
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: just you know, you just got to find them. Unfortunately,

1025
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: it is annoying if they're not coming out on YouTube

1026
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 3: like this, because at least some people saw it on YouTube,

1027
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: just like you, Fuzzy, but I don't. I don't, it's all.

1028
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: It's not many, y'all. It's like nine hundred views on YouTube,

1029
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: one point five k views on YouTube, which is just

1030
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: to be honest, y'all, nothing compared to how other people

1031
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 3: are consuming the stuff.

1032
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's funny. Like there's a podcast I really

1033
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: love called The Weekly Planet. It's these lovely Australian fellows

1034
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: talking about nerd stuff, and I discovered them on YouTube

1035
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: as a as like an audio podcast where the video

1036
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: is just like a graphic and for whatever reason, I

1037
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: continue to listen to them on YouTube, like I'm just

1038
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: a creature of habit in that way. So I'm with you, Fuzzy.

1039
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: I totally understand. And if all of a sudden, Weekly

1040
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: Planets stop putting out new episodes on YouTube, I'd probably

1041
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: be a little concerned too, and I'd for whatever reason,

1042
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: I listened to all my other stuff on Apple podcasts

1043
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: but not The Weekly Planet, because I found it on

1044
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: that in that environment, and that is where I continue

1045
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: to consume it. Oh and if you are consuming us

1046
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: on any of those streamers of note, the Spotify's, the

1047
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: Apple Podcast, specifically Apple Podcast, we love it. If you

1048
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: could leave us a cool review and do check us

1049
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 2: out on Netflix. It's a fun thing that we're doing

1050
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: and we're enjoying it.

1051
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it absolutely right to Bob Netflix whoever runs

1052
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: that place, and say stuff they don't want you to know.

1053
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: So yay, that's all.

1054
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: I think.

1055
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: That's all you have to put, so you gotta put it.

1056
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: They know us there. They send us headphones, by the way,

1057
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: the most gorgeous gift wrapping I've ever seen, Like do

1058
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: they have a whole division over at Netflix. That's just

1059
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: like expert gift wraps, gift wrappers like they do at

1060
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble around the holidays. I mean the cornering

1061
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: on it. My god, ah, custom Netflix ribbons. Look, we're

1062
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: not that fancy, y'all. We're super excited just to be

1063
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: in the room and to be working with Netflix. It's

1064
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: super fun. But I was blown away by that little

1065
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: nifty gifty of some so No's headphones they sent us.

1066
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: They were wonderful. It's an amazing gift we appreciated.

1067
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: Netflix.

1068
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: Did you see the recent news about forever chemicals and

1069
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: other really dangerous cancer causing and endocrine disrupting chemicals that

1070
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: are in most, especially high end headphones.

1071
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: Jesus, that's where you're pivoting to Matt. We're talking about

1072
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: a lovely gesture from a giant corporation.

1073
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: Netflix didn't know.

1074
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm where is it in the padding? I imagine it's

1075
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: in the padding.

1076
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just supposed to be really dangerous.

1077
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: But it must be in the squishy padding. I almost

1078
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: guarantee that's the kind of place that stuff like that

1079
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: would be.

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