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Speaker 3: Last night we got tales from the Fortress Lee. We

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Speaker 3: missed you. The boys were down there. We'll talk a

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Speaker 3: little Hawks, thunder Trey. You have a very fun list

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Speaker 3: for us, could be quite lengthy. Actually we sort of

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Speaker 3: we were like brainstorming the idea on last week's show

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Speaker 3: about this Darryl Morriy list, these thirty players that they

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Speaker 3: would maybe trade Ben Simmons for. You said, well, he's

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're doing for us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna drop the list I mentioned on Friday's show,

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Speaker 4: I had thirty nine players, but like you said, Darryl

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Speaker 4: it's like, mostly the same names, but there's thirty nine

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Speaker 3: we'll start with this, the league announced that Lebron James

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Speaker 3: there Pistols seeder Isaiah Stewart in the face during their

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Speaker 2: I did, And I think Isaiah Stewart wouldn't have got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the real question, Tass is if Isaiah Stewart doesn't

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Speaker 3: even get a game suspension? You know, he gets tossed,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. The scene went viral. Whether it was an

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Speaker 1: you can call it, Pope. The fact that it got

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Speaker 1: In Skeetz, I think you're right because it just became

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a fun question before we move on from Mark j.

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Speaker 3: He sent this in by way of Twitter. I feel

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Speaker 3: like we need an official no Dunk's rating of the

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Speaker 3: different levels of an NBA fight. He says, I think

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Speaker 3: we got four levels. A dust up, a brew haha,

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Speaker 3: Stuart situation was either a high tiered dust up or

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Speaker 3: So tas, I just thought this was a fun question.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with the levels? Is there one you

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's take a step back here. Woje tweeted

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Speaker 1: words of rough House, I guess that's not really a

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Speaker 1: term for fight. That's a verb. He was a rough house.

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Speaker 1: But throw that into the mix of all these words

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Speaker 1: I think the levels are melee that's the top. Melee

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Speaker 1: all the other words. I think, yeah, melee wins, and

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Speaker 1: then fractice, brew haha, dust up. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: each other at dustop. I don't know what those words mean.

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Speaker 4: What do you think lee?

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Speaker 3: Is there any other words you throw in there? And

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Speaker 2: I just really want to know what the difference between

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Speaker 4: I mean that's down well the longest suspensions. To me,

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Speaker 4: dust up sounds pretty minor, no ejections, just a little

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be tough guy in each other. You could

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Speaker 4: even go forehead to forehead in a dust as far

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Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, though, if you get ejected. It immediately

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Speaker 4: becomes a brew. Haha. All right, something's bruin, something's bruin,

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Speaker 4: and ha ha adam Silver is going to be giving

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Speaker 4: just a fine and small suspensions, that's a fracas. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: anything under five game suspension, it's a fracas. Five plus games,

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Speaker 4: So that's that. Those are the tears to me once

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Speaker 3: Okay, uh, you know the stream team pointing out where

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Speaker 3: falling all of this? Yeah, you see that one a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think that this one. Yeah. Anyway, so great question

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Speaker 3: there from Mark J. Thank you for sending that in.

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Speaker 3: And oh, when we were trying to name this yesterday,

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Speaker 3: too perfect. We were trying to figure out, well, now

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Speaker 3: they play at Little Caesar's Arena, are we calling this anything?

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Speaker 3: What are some funny names. You guys had some great suggestions.

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Speaker 3: One more came in that I like because I kept

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Speaker 3: thinking little Caesar's Arena, the pizza box. I kept going

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Speaker 3: towards that. But a lot of people pointing out, why

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Speaker 3: not the oven? So Lee Mikey, he said, what about

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Speaker 3: the shoven?

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Speaker 2: At the oven? What was the shovel?

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Speaker 4: That was it?

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Stewart shoving?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because rhymes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a thing. It's a bit of a reach

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Speaker 2: for me. It sounds great. It's just when you look

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Speaker 2: at what it was, it was more an evasion or

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Speaker 2: you know, he was trying to trying to elude like

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Speaker 2: his own teammates, wasn't he. But yeah, there's something there.

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Speaker 2: There's something something the oven.

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Speaker 3: We can work with the ovin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great nickname for a little Caesar's arena.

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Speaker 4: Things are getting heated down at the oven here that

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Speaker 2: Stuff loving at the oven? No loving in the oven?

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Speaker 2: What about that?

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Speaker 3: Oh mc lovin un till he shows up. Okay, let's

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Speaker 3: What a brilliant So who's had them with the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's now you're adding the Grizzlies and yeah,

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Speaker 3: Tas what'd you think of this one?

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Speaker 1: I just think the Grizzlies expectation level is a little

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, John morant to me last night. In that game,

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Speaker 4: Well, Hassam Whiteside certainly thought this game was over after

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Speaker 2: So Terry won the tip.

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Speaker 4: Now it was about human elements.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, why does it have to be two guys.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was well just to watch it. Just

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Speaker 1: all times. He shot ten threes and he's done that

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Speaker 3: Man, he was great last night. I thought Triple J was.

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Speaker 3: And you said, like, I get what you're saying, Like

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Speaker 3: Start getting some reps for your JA morants and you're

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Speaker 3: Like it's you gotta like, they gotta take a step

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Speaker 1: step to the left, dance step to the right, and

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Speaker 1: so they can step forward, so they can shot put

433
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 1: their partner and spin her all around and do that thing.

434
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: Because he was just tossing it. It wasn't dancing with

435
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: the stars.

436
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:12,959
Speaker 3: It was lifting.

437
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

438
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 3: His finale was actually dancing that last one, that interpretive

439
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: dance one we talked about on the show a while ago.

440
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 1: That was not He saved it for the finals.

441
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 3: He did. He did quick quick feet on trump there.

442
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: Good win for him. Season thirty. Still can't get over that.

443
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: All right, let's talking about high numbers here. Let's get

444
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 3: to another game. Phoenix Suns, come on. They won their

445
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: thirteenth straight beat the Spurs one fifteen, one to eleven.

446
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 3: Tray big takeaway.

447
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 5: Well.

448
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Speaker 4: On last week's podcast Skeets, you asked if the Bulls

449
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 4: are last year's Sons. I saw on Basketball Buds this

450
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 4: week they asked which NBA team is this is last

451
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 4: year's Hawks. It could even be the Hawks or last

452
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 4: year's Hawks. But I'm here to tell you that the

453
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Speaker 4: Suns are last year's Jazz because Phoenix is on a

454
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 4: massive winning streak right now and it's totally flying under

455
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 4: the radar. Thirteen straight wins for the Suns came right

456
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 4: after a one to three start and basically began once

457
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 4: the Robert Sarver investigation news broke, which is quite the

458
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 4: response from the Phoenix Suns. But these guys are just

459
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 4: taking care of business. Five players in double digits last

460
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 4: night against the Spurs. Booker, Eighton and Pain all had

461
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 4: twenty plus and this came on the second night of

462
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 4: a back to back. That's how you do it. Postgame,

463
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 4: Cameron Payne was asked about the win streak. I really

464
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: don't think about nothing really, just a number. Honestly, we

465
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 4: just went one to zero today. That's the mindset you

466
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 4: need to win thirteen straight games because the competition has

467
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: been pretty easy for the Suns all things considered. I'm

468
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: not sure if they've been the favorites in every single

469
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: one of their games, but my guests would be yeah,

470
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 4: but they're still beating these teams and beating the bad

471
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 4: teams is what pads your win total for the end

472
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 4: of the year, which is why the Suns are in

473
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: second right now. That helps your seeding. You're playing home

474
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 4: games in the playoffs. The Valley Boys were lit last summer.

475
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 4: Last season in the postseason, remember Suns in four, it's

476
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 4: this huge advantage. So they got the Calves next on Wednesday.

477
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 4: Gotta win that game. It's the Calves. They're banged up

478
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: right now. Then you're taking a double digit win streak

479
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 4: into Madison Square Garden to face the Knicks. That's huge,

480
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 4: and then on Saturday a showdown with the Nets, the

481
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 4: best team in the Eastern Conference. Right now, keep winning,

482
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: I think the Suns are gonna do it. The Cavs

483
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: seems like it should be a dub, but I've been impressed.

484
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 4: They're a well balanced team. They look like they have

485
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 4: not taken any sort of time off after going to

486
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Speaker 4: the finals last year. Whereas we look at a team

487
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: like the Hawks, they're having trouble finding that motivation. The

488
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: Bucks have been banged up. Meanwhile, the Suns, they're just

489
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 4: one of the best offensive and defensive teams in the league.

490
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: Everybody in their starting lineup can score. They got a

491
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: bunch of guys off the bench who can score. They're

492
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: looking good. They're the Jazz.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think of that sort of comparison

494
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: task do you see it? What Trey selling you there?

495
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely that My one note was the Sun's ultimate compliment

496
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: would be if you just describe their team as we

497
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: just got to wait till the playoffs to see if

498
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: they can produce. And that's exactly what you say about

499
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz every single season. If they're boring, if

500
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: they're getting their job done, if they're getting it from everywhere,

501
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: like mckel bridges says, like we just go out there

502
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: and we get the job done. That is the ultimate

503
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: compliment for the Suns. If they can just be a

504
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, fifty five fifty eight win team to see

505
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: if they can do it again. It's in the category

506
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: of the Jazz. Like last year, they could be a

507
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: one seed. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see what happens in

508
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know. It's it feels like a little

509
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: bit Spursy of the last two decades while the Spurs

510
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: were doing their thing. I think that is a real

511
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: apt comparison, the way they've come together and they can produce.

512
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: No extreme superstars, no disrespect to like Donovan Mitchell and

513
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Den Book and Chris Paul you know, the superstar level

514
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: is at another tier with some of the other Western

515
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: Conference teams. But you can hope the Suns can knock

516
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: them off for sure, just like you can hope the

517
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Jazz do too. There's a path, there's a path for

518
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: the Suns team if they play like this.

519
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Li. It feels like with Phoenix right now.

520
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: You know, Kaminski is out, but and Trey sort of

521
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: said it, they have nine guys so to just come

522
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: in every game, you know, your five starters of course,

523
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 3: and then four guys off the bench in Cam Johnson,

524
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: Javal McGee campaign and then Landry Sammett, who's been a

525
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: nice little addition for them, and everybody is contributing. It

526
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: feels like like there's no there's no real like there's

527
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: no dud, there's no zero on this squad. Nine guys deep,

528
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: maybe tangents. Kaminsky's back, yeah.

529
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: Yep, and Javal McGee another solid performance for him last night.

530
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: He just continues to be a very very solid veteran

531
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Speaker 2: for this team. Understanding his role. You know, when DeAndre

532
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: Ayton was out, he came in and just picked it up.

533
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: Now he realizes he's a bench player for the most part,

534
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: he goes back to the bench and plays really hard,

535
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 2: just runs, you know, rim to rim. You know, it's

536
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: a bit of a cliche, but that's what you want

537
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: from a big man because he can defend and then

538
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: he just doesn't take much to finish around the rim.

539
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: So he's been really good. But I think that's the

540
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: thing with the Suns last year at their best, didn't

541
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: matter who was out there on the floor. It was like, oh, yep,

542
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: that guy Cam Johnson, he can knock in that shot.

543
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: Campaign they picked him up off the scrap peep and

544
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: he turned himself now in to a long term contract,

545
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: the short term contract, but a guaranteed deal, which is

546
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: huge for him. So this is what's great. And talking

547
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: about contracts, I mean DeAndre Ayton right now, in the

548
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: five games since he's been back, just been incredible for Phoenix. Again,

549
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: has been you know, soft competition there, but he's looked incredible.

550
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: So this is going to cost Phoenix one way or

551
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: the other. They either pay him now you know, the

552
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: max in the off season, or they have to trade

553
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: him because he is going to be getting paid the

554
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: biggest bucks he can possibly get paid in the offseason.

555
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: He's clearly showing that right now. Now, a lot of

556
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: season to go still, but the way that he looks

557
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: out on the floor just comfortable. Chris Paul just serves

558
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: it up on a dish to him so many times

559
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: as well. I think that obviously helps your case you

560
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: have a point guard of that caliber. But Ayton is

561
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: doing his job. You know, it's like, fine, I'll just

562
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: go on cash and he's beefed already this year. He

563
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: had another seventeen rebounds in a game. I think he

564
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: had fourteen there last night.

565
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 5: Again.

566
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: You know, sure the Spurs don't have a you know,

567
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: you're not going up against Tim Duncan there, but he's

568
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: just showing Phoenix that they messed up by not signing

569
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: him in the off season. And good on DeAndre Ayton.

570
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: Well, you just pissed off Spurs fans because they do

571
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: have Pernole. Come on, man, he is good.

572
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, Bill Land said on the call last

573
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: night when he was in io against Chris Paul, you

574
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: do not want to be in this situation. Chris Paul

575
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: just hit a jumper in his face like he didn't

576
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: actually embarrass him all that much. He didn't make him,

577
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, stumble all over the place.

578
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: But funny when the other.

579
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: Team's just like, oh no, don't you don't get there,

580
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: just get out.

581
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 3: Hey, look the Spurs put up a fight and like

582
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 3: they do this. It feels like in every game they

583
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: keep losing a lot of games, but they're in these games.

584
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: I remember we said that at start of the season that

585
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: would probably be the case. I also like to picture

586
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: you as Eaton's agent trying to figure out a deal

587
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: and you just say, we would like the biggest bucks, please,

588
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: the biggest possible please.

589
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: To say this is this is actually a very easy

590
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: negotiation here, Phoenix. You know what to do. Five years

591
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: absolutely max. Now, depending on any individual accolades he gets

592
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: this season could obviously change the final amount. I mean,

593
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: he won't win MVP, but he maybe makes the All

594
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: Star team. It's certainly if the Suns keep rolling the

595
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: way they are, he could get in there, so that

596
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: will help him. But whatever, the absolute maximum he's entitled

597
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: to worn is what he's on the track for right now.

598
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: The biggest bucks. I like that.

599
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: Okay, a MAX contract? Would you want them to write

600
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: you like a comically sized lottery check?

601
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: Right?

602
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: You're like, come on, at least the signing motus.

603
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I'm surprised. Like, yeah, all we see

604
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: sometimes is like a good Instagram or Twitter photo of

605
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: like the guy literally just signing the actual paperwork. Yeah,

606
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: we want those, like comically sized checks and the.

607
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: Memo the biggest bucks.

608
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: Be way more fun, be a better photo, get more legs, right.

609
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: Tess for sure. Like my man Ryan Satton when when

610
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: he won the tournament on TSN when he won the

611
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: bowling tournament, I was there with him, he got the

612
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: novelty check right.

613
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Of course, does he still have it?

614
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: He's gotta have it? Wowe on this Sports network with

615
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: Vic Rouder calling the call the Maple Marxie on this kid.

616
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: I mean, of course he's got that check. Summer. I

617
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: think it was five k Canadian.

618
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: This story comes up so much. I love it.

619
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: Maybe ten k. I don't know.

620
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: I saw he got back out on the bowling lanes.

621
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for him. Yeah, I guess bully balls drilled.

622
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: I guess, go on, what does that mean? Oh you

623
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: get your custom holes in the in the balls for

624
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: for a bully gets, you know, custom drill holes to

625
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: fit perfectly.

626
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: Really custom balls.

627
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: Baby.

628
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: I didn't like it that the placement of the holes

629
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: or the like. Obviously the size of the holes for

630
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: your fingers, that's a good question.

631
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Definitely the size. Maybe the placement too. I don't know, like.

632
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: Can I can I put like like let's go pinky

633
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: th like that's it, Like if that's my style, I

634
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: guess you could wild style. U.

635
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you bowl.

636
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying could I. I just want to

637
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: know I have the option.

638
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: You say it's customer probably ow.

639
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: Custom can I get? Okay, we'll talk about customization when

640
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: I get to my Indo Cheeto ad later. In other

641
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: action last night, just some other games I'll throw at you,

642
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: we had Durant scoring twenty seven and the Nets got

643
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: a little lyft from a rookie another cam to down

644
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: the caves. Terry Rozier's late three pointer helped the Hornets

645
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: over the Wizards one O nine, one three. It's then

646
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: they went for Charlott. They're in a bit of a

647
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: streak here. Celtics, Bucks, Earmuffs, Tray Pacers and the Wolves.

648
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: They all won big Yeah. Pacers crush the bulls my goodness.

649
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: And then finally here the seventy six Ers pulled away

650
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: in the fourth to beat the Kings to spoil Elvin

651
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 3: Gentry's debut. Any of those games tests that caught your

652
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: eye that you want to touch on.

653
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Well, a couple of teams the bottom of the Western

654
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Conference playoff bracket. I want to touch on The Kings

655
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: and the tim Wolves go in different ways. The Timberwolves

656
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: they're rising. They beat the Pelicans, Okay, sure, yea, they

657
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: should win that. They've won four in a row, though

658
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: they're five and two since they change their starting lineup,

659
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's keut. They've got their three offensive

660
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: players in their starting lineup, Karl Anthony Towns, Anthony Edwards,

661
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: and Dangel Russell, but they've added two defensive players, Patrick

662
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Beverley as a guard to play alongside Dangel Russell and

663
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt. That guy is built different. I love watching

664
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt because he's just He's a perfect player for

665
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves. They just need a guy to work

666
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: his ass off. He's all over the place, his hands

667
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: are up, he's cutting, he's ready for passes. That's how

668
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: he scores. He had sixteen points yesterday and double digit

669
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: rebounds in three straight games. And I don't think he's

670
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: giving his starting spot back. I think he's just a perfect,

671
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: perfect guy, a big guy, second round pick. He'd be

672
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: nice if he could shoot the ball as well. But

673
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the nickname of V eight because he's

674
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: a finesse guy. He works his ass off. He works hard,

675
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: and you know we're going a life, So keep up

676
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: this nickname as long as you can, as long as

677
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: we have these big muscle cars. So V it's a

678
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: good one. It's a very good nickname. Yeah. I don't

679
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: know why people don't talk about him more. He is

680
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt different that team they like, The Phoenix Suns have

681
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: had a nice easy scad recently and that's why they've

682
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: gone five and two with this starting lineup. And it's

683
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: going to get harder now. But at least they're going

684
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: the right way. They're in the play in bracket. While

685
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings, my gosh, that loss first game with

686
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: a new head coach and Alvin Gentry. You think that

687
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: they're going to work outwork The other team, a Philadelphia

688
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: seventy six ers team that has none of their starters right, none,

689
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: not one, and they were up nine early in the fourth.

690
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: The Kings were and I had to go back to

691
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: watch this fourth quarter to see how they bungled a

692
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: nine point lead, and they were just so bad defensively.

693
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: They just left out every guy on an island, you know,

694
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: go do it yourself. They didn't rebound together, so the

695
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Sixers finished on a twenty five to eight run. The

696
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: body language is just so bad on the Kings, especially

697
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: with Daron Fox. I don't want to play body language doctor,

698
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: but what's going on? If you have your your your

699
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: first game with a new head coach, you have to

700
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: play hard, You have to play up to your to

701
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: your capabilities against the team that's you know, really just

702
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: outworking them. With the Philadelphia seventy six ers, who don't

703
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: have any of their stars. I don't know if he

704
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: just doesn't want to be there right now long term

705
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: because they've drafted two guards in a row. I'm gonna

706
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: guess he's on Trey's list of potential trade targets for

707
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons that we'll get to. But he just doesn't

708
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: want to be there in a game where they got outworked.

709
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: The eight guys that the Sixers played. Their combined salaries

710
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: less than what deeron Fox gets paid in one season

711
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: or what Buddy Heal gets paid in one season. So

712
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: Derek bun the Athletic if you want, if you want

713
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: stats like that, you just got to pay a dollar

714
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: a frickin' month at the Athletic dot com slash no

715
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: dunks to read great articles like that. They got destroyed

716
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter. Philly is getting what they wanted.

717
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Andre Drummer getting bored after board after board tray.

718
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: They just they just got steamrolled.

719
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: Thanks for mentioning it, tasks JD. Please roll that beautiful

720
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: beef footage.

721
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 5: Andre Drummond had twenty three rebounds. New coach, same old.

722
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: That's a lot of roast beef, which is rebounds.

723
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: Wow, look at that slick editing there from Shake Hervey

724
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: speeding up the action to get to another Andre Drummond rebound.

725
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: Hey, if you get two offensive rebounds on the same possession,

726
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: you best believe it's getting beef tard. And this is

727
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: exactly right. Andre Drummond was completely outworking the Kings in

728
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. He had four offensive rebounds all by himself.

729
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: And as you saw, it was basically like MAXI just

730
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: gets to wherever he wants in the paint. Couldn't really

731
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 4: finish just throws it off the glass, but Drummond is

732
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: there to clean up the glass and that's his third

733
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: beef already this season. A minimum deal for maximum beef,

734
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: but bummer of stuff for the Kings to take a

735
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: lead into the fourth quarter and then just get out worked.

736
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 4: They didn't even get the dead coach bounce. Like that's

737
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: shameful stuff from Sacramento.

738
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not good, Lely. I don't know if you

739
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: have anything to add to the Sacramento kangs here. It's

740
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: not pretty. And you do wonder if a deal will

741
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: be made. I mean, even if it's a minor deal,

742
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: if it's trading vaguely to a team for a second

743
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: round pick and possibly looking at I guess exploring a

744
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: trade for sending Fox somewhere because like he's playing in

745
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: a fog. You're right, yes, I mean we said that

746
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: a week or so ago, and he's continuing to play

747
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: like that.

748
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: It is funny, Like when we do get ready for

749
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: the show, you think, I wonder if someone will bring

750
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: up this point that I noticed in dem Fox on

751
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: that last three pointer from the corner was way short

752
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: and his body language the shoulders just dropped and it

753
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: was not like frustration or anger more just like, yeah,

754
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: you know, again, another way of losing a game against

755
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: a team we you know, should be able to beat.

756
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: He just looks like he really needs to change something

757
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: up now. Again. He presents a lot of trade value

758
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: to the Kings, But do they really want to give

759
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: up on him just yet? I'm not quite sure, especially

760
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 2: when you're getting an uncertain return from a guy who

761
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: could be great, but maybe he's not actually any better

762
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: in that situation. So that's something to watch for sure.

763
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: But it's also could be the deflection trade coming up,

764
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: like quick, let's trade someone, so people talk about that

765
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: rather than the team's for pawns. But we did see

766
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: two basketball cliches last night in Chicago. First trip back,

767
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: first game back from a long road trip, Often the

768
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: team stinks the home team, and they did.

769
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: That game back. That was a skull last That's yeah,

770
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: they beat the Knicks on their first game back. They

771
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: had a back to back after a five game Westcot

772
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 4: road trip. That losses on the scheduler's more than the balls.

773
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 4: But for the piecers. As Kenny Beacham said last night,

774
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: enjoy your November win.

775
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus already hear us.

776
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: I forgot about that next game. Anyway, we had fun. Yeah,

777
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: we had the.

778
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Well what's your other clichelich is?

779
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the new coach bump that actually results in an

780
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: automatic trick against the team that's got none of their starters.

781
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: You're at home, they're on a long road trip. That's

782
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: like the easiest win of a coach's career, and instead

783
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: it's like just another miserable loss there for the King.

784
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: So what a bad situation that is there? Because again,

785
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: this to me shows you that it wasn't one of

786
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: those just get a new voice in the locker room.

787
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: This was like it didn't matter if Luke Walton was

788
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: on the side there last night. You couldn't make any

789
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: you couldn't tell any difference. You know, they just played

790
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: the same way.

791
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: So you may have noticed. There was one game that

792
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: I didn't mention there, and that was the thunder Hawks

793
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: game because we were down at the fortress and some

794
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: from our insight and some of our takes after the

795
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: break because we got to pay the bills. JD, what

796
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: do you got for us? Okay, tails from the fortress? Yes,

797
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: you were missed, Lee, I know you just keep going

798
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: to football matches. Over there in England, but we went

799
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: down to watch the Hawks last night. Trey Young scored

800
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: twenty one of his thirty points in the second half.

801
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: Capella ten and fifteen thought we were gonna get a

802
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: big beef in person there Trey, it was looking good

803
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: for a while. He slowed down a little bit, but

804
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: the Hawks they closed out a perfect five game homestand

805
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: here with the one thirteen one oh one win over OKC.

806
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: Just a few notes, Atlanta's found their groove here, tasked.

807
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: I think that's safe to say they're six and oh

808
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: since they've gone with the starting lineup of Trey, Kevin Herder,

809
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: Bogdanovich and then Collins and Capella as they're bigs, so

810
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: they're perfect right now with that as they're starting five.

811
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: They took over in the third quarter. You saw it

812
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: with your own eyes there they held the thunder to

813
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: eleven points held in a four to twenty five shooting

814
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: that sort of like changed the game. And my only

815
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: other real note is, and Lee, I think you'll like this.

816
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: I saw a guy with a camcorder.

817
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: Was it Shack, No, it wasn't.

818
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: Jad.

819
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: I took a photo this guy in front of me.

820
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: I have not seen a camcorder in person, and I

821
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: want to say, like a decade, but this guy was

822
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: like getting some bootleg action.

823
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, like how to take.

824
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: A photo of it?

825
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: Everyone records everything on their phones these days, and it's normal,

826
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: but when you see someone doing that, it's like, hey,

827
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: that's illegal, man, that's so funny.

828
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: Who said that?

829
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: Because I thought that too, And then I looked around

830
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: and there were a good ten to fifteen people on

831
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: their phones definitely recording. Yeah, you jump ball over at

832
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: the start of the game. I'm like, yeah, why am I?

833
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: Why am I shaming this guy? But yeah, that was cool.

834
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: So anyway, it was a pretty again second half dominant

835
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: performance from the Hawks.

836
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Task.

837
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have anything to add, either

838
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: from okayc side of things or the Hawks.

839
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a third quarter. Good teams come out

840
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: and finish the job. That's what happened in this one.

841
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, obviously disappointing, especially for U Skeets, no Shake Gilders, Alexander.

842
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Where is he? Yeah he got Xander. I mean Josh

843
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: Giddy out there running the show. I mean he's doing

844
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: a decent job.

845
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: He is Giddy is good. I liked watching him in person.

846
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: A couple of things. Holy crap, does that guy look

847
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: to pass? And he is an unbelievable playmaker. He sees

848
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: like really cool angles, I think out there, especially when

849
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: you get to see in person. But man creating his

850
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: own shot a problem right now, and he's what nineteen,

851
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: He's got time to figure it out. And I thought

852
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: also as the game went on task maybe I don't

853
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: know if you agree or not, I thought he got

854
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: worse and worse. Like he was amazing in the first

855
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: quarter when he had energy, I thought, and as he

856
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: got a little more to and was maybe asked to

857
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: do a little too much because Sgt. Jessea was out

858
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: and he was maybe handling the ball a little bit

859
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: more than he usually does, I just thought he started

860
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: to get sloppy with passes and again struggling to score ourself.

861
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: But I was impressed overall.

862
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: By him totally. I think on the Hawk's side, Kevin

863
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: Herder in the starting lineup, as you mentioned, is big

864
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: for them. Kevin Herder is that secondary playmaker that DeAndre

865
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: Hunter really wasn't. And DeAndre Hunter's out, but Kevin Herder

866
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: has stepped in and obviously was a big part of

867
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: beating the Philadelphia seventy six ers in Round two of

868
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, sending them to the Eastern Conference Finals.

869
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's sort of like last year where Nate

870
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: McMillan just kind of has to play guys and it's

871
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: working out. Due to injury, Herder has been great and

872
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: Cam Reddish, I think is growing here as a bench player.

873
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: I think his shot selection is starting to get a

874
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: little bit smarter. This is the first time I think

875
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: he's really run with a good NBA team. I mean,

876
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: this is his third year in the league, but he

877
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: barely played last year. He played in only twenty six games,

878
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: and I think he tried to do a little too

879
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: much to start the season, tried to playmake and score

880
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: off the dribble. But now I think it's a little

881
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: bit more catch and shoot, a little bit more pick

882
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: his spots. And I think nam Is Mill's really running

883
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: with him because he's got so much potential on both

884
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: ends to shut guys down on the defensive end and

885
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: to be an incredible score and he's huge, so he's

886
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: got to play him. But I think we've seen this

887
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: rocky start is in part for the Hawks because of

888
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Cam Reddish, you know, just finding his way as a

889
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: young player. And so yeah, there's there's a lot of

890
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: that on the Hawks side as well as the thunderside.

891
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: Who had a Wiggins out there that has no relation

892
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: to Andrew or Nick Wagins. It was an Aaron Wiggins.

893
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: What's going on?

894
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: Oh man? There are a lot of players on the

895
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: Thunder because you can hear like people around us being like,

896
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: who is that guy? Who's that guy? What's that guy's name?

897
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: Robinson Earl?

898
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: Is that his first name? Like, there is a lot

899
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: of people go and who the heck is that guy?

900
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: Because you know, for a casual fan, especially Trey, there

901
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: are a lot of guys that you maybe haven't heard

902
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: of or seene before.

903
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: What a game for Ty Jerome?

904
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: He was.

905
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: Giddy of the second half for the Oklahoma City Thunder

906
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: fifteen points, five and five at the free throw line.

907
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 4: I haven't checked yet, but I know John Hollinger had

908
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: some kind of tweet about him, since he's a Virginia guy.

909
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: That's the only guy who knows Tyjerome. But yeah, I

910
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: don't know. It was halftime and we said, feels like

911
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: the Thunder or the Hawks need to play one quarter

912
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: of defense and this will be a win. And that's

913
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: exactly what happened. Came out in the third quarter and

914
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: smacked him. I think it's interesting though, the DeAndre Hunter stuff.

915
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: Basically as soon as he went out of the lineup,

916
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: the team got better at offense and defense. Seems to

917
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: me they just need to play Hurder more. Like Herder

918
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: has been getting the most minutes he's been getting for

919
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: the entirety of the season. He's better than DeAndre Hunter,

920
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: so play him more. Even when DeAndre Hunter comes back.

921
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: I know that the ideas that Hunter is going to

922
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: be your go to stopper defensively and maybe be able

923
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 4: to give you something offensively as well, but he seems

924
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 4: to kind of just get in the way. The team

925
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: looks better when he's been on the bench, and that's

926
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: true going back to last year's playoffs as well.

927
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: I just have some other notes I just thought of

928
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: the Thunder should not be allowed to wear orange when

929
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: they're playing, at least in Atlanta. On that court, it

930
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: looks like garbage. I mean it's because he got this

931
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: red and of course like white, you know, a little

932
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: yellow two, but like predominantly red in atl And just

933
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: the Orange task. It just looks does that look horrible?

934
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: So that should be a rule. The other thing is

935
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: and Lee, you would have loved this giant inflatable Harry

936
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: the Hawk, you know, classic. Okay, fine, we were loving it.

937
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: But the guy or woman operating inside they brought the

938
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: tongue out. Okay, like this giant long tongue. Okay, hilarious.

939
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: It comes out and it usually goes away. I don't

940
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: know if it malfunctioned or something, but the tongue stayed

941
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: out really the entire time. It was very distracting and

942
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: looked really weird. Yeah, so did not we either forgot

943
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: to just pull it back in and they didn't know

944
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: it was out there, or maybe a broke or something.

945
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Very hard to tell if it's a bid or not.

946
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: Then in those circumstances, oh definitely, it's a bit at first,

947
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: but yeah, reel it in.

948
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: But it was like out there dangling around there.

949
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: When does the bitch stop?

950
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: And when.

951
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: I saw though. Just the other day, Harry the Hawk

952
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: and a ton of the other mascots were in LA

953
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: for the Chuck the Condor's birthday celebration, which was unusual

954
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: to see him all together. So good to see Harry

955
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: made it back in time to beat home for the Fortress.

956
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 4: Lee.

957
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up.

958
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: I was.

959
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: We had our buddy Maddio went to the Clippers game.

960
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: He gave us the inside scoop. Oh, they're celebrating Chuck

961
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: the Condor's birthday. Apparently it wasn't even his birthday. I

962
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: don't know how mad he was.

963
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: It's the Queen, isn't it. It's Queen's birthday is the same.

964
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: It's like, so they have a bunch of mascots there.

965
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: But I was wondering, hmm, are there too, Harry the Hawks?

966
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: Do they send a secondary Harry the Hawk costume at

967
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: their attack and someone else Harry, Well, just in case

968
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: there's a problem getting back on the flight. You know,

969
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: you just got to make it to the game.

970
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

971
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is.

972
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: Do they fly coach? I mean, how do you fit

973
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: those big heads in those seats? There's gonna be no room.

974
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: Does Harry? Does Harry want the birthday party celebration or

975
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: does Harry want this? Like, no, I'm staying home. You

976
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: go on the road. Send the intern on the road,

977
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, that's the better geek, you know, because

978
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: I would say, you just don't want someone to show

979
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: you up as the secondary Harry. You don't want people go,

980
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: oh this Harry. He was awesome, you know what I mean?

981
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: So, okay, here's my Harry. I think primary Harry went

982
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: to the party in LA, had too much fun at

983
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: the birthday party, wanted to stay there. They sent back

984
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: secondary Harry. That's why the tongue was dangling out. They

985
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: never passed on the info. You got to pull that

986
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: tongue back in. It doesn't reel itself.

987
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Is right.

988
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's something.

989
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: There, maybe oh final thing, because this is why you

990
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: tune into no Dunks for this insight with us going

991
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: to these games. They did a contest last night lately

992
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: basically musical chairs. Okay, but you had I think they

993
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: had six people lined up. You had to start at

994
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: center court. That's where the chairs were run down, make

995
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: a layup, and then get back to a seat and

996
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 3: obviously would eliminate people as it went on. Okay, someone

997
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: entertaining nice little wrinkle to your musical chairs. There gets

998
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: down to the two final guys. They sprint to opposite

999
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: ends and they both hit their layup. These guys are

1000
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 3: actually not that bad. They hit their layup, they comes

1001
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: screaming back and like you could see it happening. Will

1002
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: time be like they're going for this. I don't even

1003
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: know what they were playing for, probably like a sign,

1004
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: jersey or something. They nailed each other lately. I don't

1005
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: know if did somebody get the clip? Was it making

1006
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: the rounds last night?

1007
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: Test?

1008
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: I didn't check Twitter, but oh my goodness, we should

1009
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: get that up. They just this one guy hammers the guy. Yeah,

1010
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: like it could have been bad. It could have been

1011
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: like concussions.

1012
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: Old bird spirit in the chest, yeah, midst the musical chairs.

1013
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: I've seen that at like six year old birthday parties

1014
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: when it comes down to the last two or throw

1015
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: no friends, no friends. When it comes to musical chairs,

1016
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: it's like, if you can just use your behind to

1017
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: get the other person out of the way, you do it.

1018
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: You don't care if the if their birthday party as well,

1019
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: they're crying over to their mom. I wanted to win.

1020
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: I care kids go crazy at musical chair Yeah, wild stuff.

1021
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: And if you find yourself in this situation like last night,

1022
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: where it's the two and you're trailing a little bit

1023
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: and you probably aren't going to make it to the chair.

1024
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: You got to go for the chair. That's the move, right,

1025
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: You don't try and beat him to the chair, slide,

1026
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: tackle into the chair, push it out like we said,

1027
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: throw the ball, maybe off the chair, I think would

1028
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: slide you got. He was like, he went for the

1029
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: he went for the seat task, but he should he

1030
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: should have actually moved the chair. That's what he should do.

1031
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: There's no rules against that.

1032
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't think, right. I loved it. I loved it.

1033
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: I was very entertaining.

1034
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: It was JD. Did you have any notes from the

1035
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: Hawks game down the Fortress?

1036
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: Well, it's same. The highlight with for me was the

1037
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 6: musical chairs, and it was I think it was bad.

1038
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 6: I one of those guys, I don't know, like they

1039
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 6: were wearing both wearing masks, so I was like one

1040
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 6: of those guys teeth knocked out or concussion protocol or something.

1041
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 6: But they showed the replay on the on the jobbotron

1042
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 6: and we were like.

1043
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it was bad.

1044
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: It was bad.

1045
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 6: But I don't think you can touch the chair, like

1046
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 6: we were discussing that last night. I think that's a rule.

1047
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 6: You can't you can't touch the chair other than sitting in.

1048
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that would be.

1049
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: Say that to them.

1050
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, Oh, I'm sure they said something before.

1051
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: They went out there. Okay.

1052
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 6: Also, my other note from the game was Trey Kirby

1053
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 6: is is a true Atlantan.

1054
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: Now.

1055
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 6: He came well you get like midway through the second quarter.

1056
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 6: And he also he did the Lee Ellis move because

1057
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 6: I think he was waiting on that pizza that he had.

1058
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, came in tray, came in hall last night. Missed

1059
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: the entire first quarter because of traffic. Yeah, you said he.

1060
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: Had a good first half. I'm just gonna have to

1061
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: take your word for that one. Yeah. First the Hawks

1062
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: game for me since moving to the new house. I

1063
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: looked it up on the maps. Twenty seven minutes to

1064
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 4: drive in. I leave at six forty five for a

1065
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: seven thirty tip. Should be good. No, first time in Atlanta, Bud.

1066
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: I got there about eight fifteen. That's why I had

1067
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: to get the pizza. I was like, I'm never gonna

1068
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: wait for such a short time in line here. I'm

1069
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 4: here in Lee's always waiting twenty minutes for a flat bread.

1070
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 4: I walked up, got my pizza. I got my drink, Like, hey,

1071
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: I've been sitting in the car for an hour. I

1072
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: need some sustenance here. But yeah, I've never felt like

1073
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: I lived farther away from the city. And then last

1074
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 4: night drive it in and it was literally all city

1075
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: traffic too, Because I was like, well, I was gonna.

1076
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: Say, you would have got to the arena. You probably

1077
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: saw the arena then you were sitting there for twenty minutes,

1078
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: exactly right. It took me twenty five minutes to get home.

1079
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: I was like, well, this part was cool. Maybe should

1080
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: have flip flopped it. So next time, I'm just going

1081
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 3: down early, get some shots up like Leoli's.

1082
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: Well and Trey's defense. Though, it was a fast game,

1083
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: so you missed it a quarter and a half. Because

1084
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: this game is still the shortest of the four major

1085
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: time of game under two hours, an hour and fifty

1086
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: eight minutes. What is this football? Is this Liverpool? That

1087
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: was so short?

1088
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1089
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: It was crab the first man.

1090
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: You're right, the first quarter. I don't think there may

1091
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: have been one one stoppage and play. I think Capella

1092
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: like tweaked his ankle, remember, from the twelve minute mark

1093
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: to like the five minute mark, and they were basically

1094
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: forced to take a time out of TV timeout.

1095
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 6: It flew by, so Scott the bartender was thrilled. Man,

1096
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: he was like, I'm out of here.

1097
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: It was like last call at halftime. It felt like

1098
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: five minutes into the game.

1099
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were struggling to get through our car battery.

1100
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 3: Modello's god damn gigantic.

1101
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: Man.

1102
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: It's nice.

1103
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Nice.

1104
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: You don't have to go back so often to get

1105
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: those peers.

1106
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

1107
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: So last week Sam Ammick at The Athletic reported that

1108
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: Daryl Moury, the president of basketball operations for the Sixers,

1109
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: he had a list thirty players the team would be

1110
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: interested in acquiring in any Ben Simmons trade. I demanded

1111
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: both here on the show on Twitter, Hey, Maury released

1112
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: the list. We want to see it, but we know

1113
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: he's not gonna do that. But that's okay because we

1114
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: got Trey Kirby here. He's done the work. He's come

1115
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: up with his own. I guess thirty plus names four

1116
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: Moray and the Sixers to target in a Ben Simmons deal.

1117
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: Here we go. Trade. Have you broken these down into

1118
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: tears or how you doing this? Alphabetical? What's the play alphabetical?

1119
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm Basketball Reference click the old team name. So we're

1120
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 4: gonna go Eastern Conference alphabetical, Western Conference alphabetical. As you mentioned,

1121
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: skeets Amic reported approximately thirty players who would satisfy the

1122
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: sixers in a Simmons and also a key part of this,

1123
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: there's an internal belief that a fair amount of these

1124
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: players could become available in the next year or two.

1125
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: So it might not happen this season, it could happen

1126
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 4: next season. I basically ask myself three questions while making

1127
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: this list. First, wdd I would Darryll do it? If

1128
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: I think Daryl would do it, he's going primarily on

1129
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: the list. Second, could it happen? Is it possible this

1130
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: player is obtainable in the next two seasons? You know,

1131
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: maybe a trade request happens, Maybe a team we're expecting

1132
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: to be good suddenly falls off and is not looking

1133
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: quite like the competitor contender that we are thinking, and

1134
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 4: suddenly these teams are up in the air. And third,

1135
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: of course, who says no, which is gonna be a

1136
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 4: question for y'all, So strap up and buckle in. Here

1137
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: are thirty plus trade targets for Ben Simmons, Daryl Morey

1138
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 4: in the Philadelphia seventy six ers. The first three were

1139
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 4: named in sam Amos articles. Damian Lillard, James Harden, Bradley Beal.

1140
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: I think those all I'll fit the bill here. Yeah,

1141
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 4: a role, a difference maker who could become available in

1142
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: the next couple of years.

1143
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and that's what Maury's hoping.

1144
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right. Wells are very much at the top

1145
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: of the list. Also near the top of the list,

1146
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: Jeremy Grant because he was in that Keith POMPEII article

1147
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: from last year. You think that's a would Darryll do

1148
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: it if Jeremy Grant is your centerpiece?

1149
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: My thoughts clear about this. I think he's very low

1150
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: on the list, But yeah, I guess I.

1151
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: Think there's a chance. I think, because this is me

1152
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: reading into it, that he wants to get it done

1153
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: in the next few months and not wait a year

1154
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: and a half for Bale or Lillard. So he's gonna

1155
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: have to lower the expectations to a Jeremy Grant type

1156
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: player in my opinion, because Biel or Lillard say it

1157
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: in the next before this trade deadline, I don't think.

1158
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't think Maury can wait. That's a long freaking

1159
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: time it just feels like an eternity in basketball to

1160
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: wait a season to trade again. It's never been.

1161
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Totally I mean, to wait a long time, especially when

1162
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: you have a Joel Embiid who is like in his

1163
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: prime right now, and also like every season is a

1164
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: little bit of a risk with Embiid in the first place.

1165
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 4: But you know, I think if you're getting enough picks

1166
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: back and all this other stuff. Alongside with Jeremy Grant,

1167
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 4: at least, I think he's a fair addition to the list.

1168
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: Next from the Atlanta Hawks, John Collins, John Collins for

1169
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons, who says no.

1170
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: I think the Atlanta say no as well.

1171
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: Sounds like he's saying on the list, Yeah, yeah, he's okay,

1172
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: go ahead then Lee.

1173
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean, well, why would the Hawks do that right now?

1174
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: I mean John Collins and Trey They just signed him up.

1175
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: By the way, John Collins, he's having a really good season.

1176
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys whose stats don't tell the

1177
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: full story. He's a great piece next to Trey. They're

1178
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: growing together. Maybe they had a little bit of tension

1179
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: in the past, but when they're playing well, I think

1180
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: John Collins is a perfect complimentary piece to Trey Young

1181
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: and vice versa. I don't think Simmons comes in and

1182
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: improves because of what he offers and takes away from.

1183
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: John Collins can hit the three. John Collins attacks a rim.

1184
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: He's got a beautiful little mid range shot. And John

1185
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: Collins plays defense and he's going.

1186
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: John Collins is better than Ben Simmons low in this league.

1187
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean better. It's hard. It's hard to sort of like,

1188
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I like John Collins, but yeah,

1189
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: but it's all about as well. It's not just about

1190
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: like who's the better individual player. I mean, there's more

1191
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: to it than I can get talking about to him.

1192
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: And and again it's it's about fit. It's about chemistry

1193
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: and whether or not, Like I see great chemistry between

1194
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: Trey Young and John Collins that I don't think they

1195
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: mess with right now for a guy who comes with

1196
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: enormous baggage at the moment.

1197
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you bring up fit like we took.

1198
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: We're looking at like a Tobias Harris, John Collins, Joel

1199
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: Embiid Sixers front court. It's a little weird. It's a

1200
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: little weird. Colins.

1201
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: The ball is there. I would imagine that the Sixers

1202
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: would want to get a guard back as well. If

1203
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: they were going for coins, that's the Cooper or something.

1204
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's enough.

1205
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: But with Simmons he needs the ball and Trey he's

1206
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: not going to give the ball out.

1207
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 3: Good point, But having a defender beside Tree Young is

1208
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: very nice. They think they have that Hunter, So who knows. Okay,

1209
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: let's we gotta keep moving here.

1210
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep all right. From the Boston Celtics, they have

1211
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 4: two names on this one, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.

1212
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 4: The question I have for y'all who's more untradeable for

1213
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics.

1214
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: Tatumum, Yeah, yeah, you don't say so, Trey, I think

1215
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: I think it is Tatum.

1216
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 4: I would take Brown in a second over Jason Tatum personally,

1217
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 4: but I do think that Tatum is more locked in

1218
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 4: as a Celtic. There Obviously, the Sixers would do this

1219
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: for either of these guys, Tatum or Brown, and I

1220
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: would say it's at least possible that one of the

1221
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: two of them could be in the mix between this

1222
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 4: season or next season.

1223
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tasks, you agree with that. You could You could

1224
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: squint and possibly see this happening that the Celtics would

1225
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: move one of those guys. Let's say it's Brown for

1226
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 3: like in a Simmons deal.

1227
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, this, if this keeps up, I'm sure they would

1228
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: be reluctant to trade Jalen Brown or twelve time Tatum's

1229
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: that's Jason Tatum, that's Jalen Brown. I think they would

1230
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: do everything around them. I think Brad Stevens would try

1231
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: and tinker around them before even contemplating it, so I

1232
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: would I think they would be pretty low on this list.

1233
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't see it happening myself, but for the sixer

1234
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: side hails. Yeah, for sure, they would want that to happen.

1235
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's the important part of this. We

1236
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: really are looking at this from Morey and Philly's side,

1237
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: like they have this list of these guys. Whether or

1238
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: not the other team wants to do it, they don't

1239
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: really care, I guess, but I guess they needed to

1240
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: be somewhat realistic.

1241
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 4: Got to be a little bit realistic. But WDDI that's

1242
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: the key here. Would Darryl do it? This one is

1243
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: a risky one from the Brooklyn Nets Kyrie Irving, Kyrie

1244
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Irving for Ben Simmons. Remember that was pitched in the preseason. Well,

1245
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: let's just swap these problems here, no big deal. Say

1246
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: the Sixers flame out this year, Say the Nets flame

1247
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: out this year. Is this a trade that could happen?

1248
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, this is This is interesting because this would

1249
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: sort of be a repeat of what Darryl Mory did

1250
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: in Houston when he traded Chris Paul for Russell Westbrook.

1251
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, it seems odd to call him a problem,

1252
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: but he wasn't working with James Harden, so they traded

1253
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: him for Russell Westbrook. So you know, one problem for another.

1254
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: In a way, has Darryl Moury learned from that because

1255
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: he also gave up a billion picks. He's regretted that deal.

1256
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: He said that you know he got he got swiped

1257
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: on that deal. It's it's different, But I think he's learned.

1258
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I say, nay, I know, I know Darryl'll do it,

1259
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think Darryl would do it.

1260
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, moving on from the Chicago Bulls. I

1261
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: hate to say it, Zach Lavine.

1262
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: Well you touch on this one then why.

1263
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 4: The only reason it's realistic is if the Bulls completely

1264
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: fall off. They looked terrible last night against the Pacers.

1265
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think that's basically a schedule loss.

1266
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: They've had two duds this year. But Levine would be

1267
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: an incredible fit right next to uh To Joel Embii,

1268
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 4: the guy that can handle the ball, can shoot from

1269
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: the outside, and he's really taking a leap to be

1270
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: in one of the best scores in the league. I

1271
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: don't think the Balls do it. I think Zach's going

1272
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: to be getting that big deal come the offseason. But

1273
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 4: got to keep him on the list because no doubt

1274
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: Darryl would do this one.

1275
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: Daryl would would do second.

1276
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, this one. I think you're going to say,

1277
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 4: probably a lesser player than Ben Simmons from the Charlotte Hornets,

1278
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 4: Miles Bridges. I don't think Lamello is a realistic trade

1279
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: target from the Hornets, but Miles Bridges. Is it an

1280
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: upgrade to get Ben Simmons?

1281
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: Wow?

1282
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: Would you okay, would you rather if you're moriy Lee,

1283
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: would you rather Miles Bridges on your team or Jeremy Grant?

1284
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Bridges? Okay, Yeah, I think there's something I think

1285
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: that could agree this sort of deal. I think if

1286
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: I don't think the Hornets would do it myself, but

1287
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: I think the Sixes would be. You would get that

1288
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: phone call from Dalel Moury saying, if Bridges is a

1289
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: viable and you want Ben Boy, let's talk, my man,

1290
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: do it.

1291
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 4: Ben Boy, love Ben Boy, let us do it. Okay,

1292
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: Miles Bridges probably not likely, but I know Darryl, Darryl

1293
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 4: would do it. I think Miles, yes, yeah, sure, sure,

1294
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 4: a big enough difference maker. How about from the Cleveland Cavaliers,

1295
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: Darius Garland.

1296
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: I think he does it.

1297
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: Darryl does it.

1298
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: Darryl does it, but the Calves I don't.

1299
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 4: Calves no, and Mobiley no.

1300
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: And you you hear like you hear some NBA guys

1301
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: talking about Garland too. They see it, they get it.

1302
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: They're like, this kid is sort of special offensively. So

1303
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 3: I mean Simmons is a I guess it for that team,

1304
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: A difference maker, Yeah, no doubt, but I think they're

1305
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: very high on Garland, so I think they say no.

1306
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: But I think Maury would probably explore that one.

1307
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Maury would jump at that.

1308
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 3: But you know, look, tyrase Maxley is playing really really

1309
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: well for the Sixers, like he starting point.

1310
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah it is I agree with that so okay, here

1311
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 4: we go from the.

1312
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: He's got a deal, He's got a deal. Maybe he's welcome.

1313
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 4: He's back from the Indiana Pacers. Talked about this one

1314
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: a lot. Can't happen this year, could happen next year.

1315
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 4: Malcolm Brogden. Is that enough to get back for Ben Simmons?

1316
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1317
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: No, Tass loves it.

1318
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1319
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: I think it works in theory. On the floor, I

1320
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: think they would be really really good, uh, with the

1321
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: with the Sixers, I think, Uh, Malcolm Brogden's kind of

1322
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: underrated and how many how he takes to pressure he

1323
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 1: will shoot, and I think I think joelan Bid would

1324
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: really like playing with that in the fourth quarter. I

1325
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: think he misses Jimmy Butler for that reason in Philadelphia.

1326
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: I think Malcolm Brogden's got a little a little Jimmy

1327
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: in him if he's healthy. Obviously, you know all these names.

1328
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: It's it's a tear down. But I think he's a

1329
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: win now kind of player, So I think, yeah, I

1330
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: think it would be a good move, even though he can't. Ye,

1331
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: Brogden would be really good.

1332
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: I think that has to be like Brogden and another

1333
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: Indiana Pacer, you know what, I mean of note, it

1334
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 3: has to be like a two for one there to

1335
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: entice morey enough.

1336
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 4: In my opinion, who's the second guy you would want?

1337
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 4: Would you be more interested in a Avert or one

1338
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 4: of their big guys, be it some Bonus or Turner?

1339
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 4: Probably Lavert?

1340
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: I imagine, well if you could get Turner and broke

1341
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: down for Simmons, I think you do that.

1342
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: This is getting crazy.

1343
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: Man, alright, rolling from the Miami.

1344
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: From the Miami Heat wouldn't happen this year? Probably unlikely

1345
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: from the Heat's perspective. Bam out a bio for Ben Simmons.

1346
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: Even hate wouldn't even call him back. Let's say, sorry,

1347
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: tags hard.

1348
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 4: To Ben Simmons as a Miami Heat.

1349
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, exactly. It could be one of those things

1350
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: that could be the perfect situation for him because they say,

1351
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: all right, they straightened him out a bit, but there's

1352
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: no way they give up. Bam, yeah, I do.

1353
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that where Ben Tran's in the off season? Doesn't

1354
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: he train in Miami?

1355
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: Is a l A guy?

1356
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1357
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: Did you call it Darryl Mory DAGs?

1358
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: DAGs? Yeah?

1359
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 5: Is that a?

1360
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: Is that an Australian term for a guy? Named Darryl.

1361
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. We used to play. We used

1362
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: to play cricket with a guy called DAGs.

1363
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: Everybody named Darrld's called everyone I know is okay, sure,

1364
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: all right, this is.

1365
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: The two for one. Then tell me who DAGs would

1366
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: be more interested in from the New York Knicks. Julius

1367
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 4: Randall or r J. Barrett. Hmmmmons not dissimilar kind of players,

1368
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 4: like you know, strong guys who use their physicality and

1369
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 4: their ball handling to kind of get things done offensively.

1370
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: Obviously Randall has figured out how to hit incredible fadeaways.

1371
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: RJ.

1372
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: Barrett a younger player, definitely more of a role type guy,

1373
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 4: would help with the three point shooting, plays a little

1374
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 4: defense out there, what a.

1375
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: Beat quickly in Barrett?

1376
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: What about them? I'm trying to just like put myself

1377
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: in the shoes of Knicks fans. If they traded one

1378
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: of those guys for Ben Simmons, I don't think it

1379
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: would go over well No, no, there would be some Uh.

1380
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 2: I think rand could work though. I think that could

1381
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: work because Randall can hit the three, he can spread

1382
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: it out a bit. They wouldn't They wouldn't play on

1383
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: top of each other. Too much, So I think, I think, yeah,

1384
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: that could work. I just don't see the needs giving

1385
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: up Randall.

1386
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love it, but I also can't I

1387
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: can't decide if Maury would be more into like where

1388
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: Randall is in his career right now, probably at the

1389
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 3: peak of his powers. Let's say, you know, sort of

1390
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: an all NBA guy like Ford, an All Star or

1391
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: the potential of an RJ. Barrett who shows you flashes

1392
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: of a future you know, five to ten time All Star.

1393
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: But also you like have these games where you're like,

1394
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: where is he? He goes missing sometimes, So I don't

1395
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: know which one Morey would prefer. I'm guessing I'm guessing Randall,

1396
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: but I'm not really that convinced. I don't think and

1397
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: beating him work all that well together. So I'll say

1398
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 3: no on that one. If I'm If I'm DAGs.

1399
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: I say he would pull it for Randall, got it.

1400
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Randall's just too talented. I think, Yeah, I'm with you

1401
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: with future versus present. I'm present. I think he sees

1402
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: that talent that would be to me, one of the

1403
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: best players he could get. It would be fascinating to

1404
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: see Ben Simmons in New York whoever he was traded for.

1405
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: That's just that fascinating experiment. What would ben playing.

1406
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: The crowd would be like leading for him to shoot

1407
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: it every time like he had any space?

1408
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1409
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: Man?

1410
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean you thought it would baden Philly? It would

1411
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: be crazy, I think in New York, so I think

1412
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 3: he would. I don't think it would be good for

1413
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: his mental health.

1414
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: Let's put it, probably not. Probably not. This one is

1415
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 4: a strange one from the Orlando Magic. If this guy

1416
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 4: is the centerpiece of a deal, maybe you're getting picks

1417
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 4: as well. Franz Wagner Franz, would Darryl do it?

1418
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: No?

1419
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: All right? Sorry, Franz love, We love Franz. But mm hmm,

1420
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: Orange Julius was far greater than Franz.

1421
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: I thought.

1422
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: I thought I'd have a dessert with Franz. But I

1423
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: can't make Franz into a dessert. Doesn't it sound like

1424
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: there's a potential for a dessert.

1425
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: There, Franz and cream or something like that.

1426
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm picking healing about stop.

1427
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 4: That's his nickname? Now for sure, I'm Darryl Morey and

1428
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 4: I'm calling the Toronto I'm killing Messiu Jeri. I say, hey,

1429
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 4: here's who I want you to trade me. My asking

1430
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 4: for Fred van Vliet, Pascal siakam or og and Andoby

1431
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 4: the number like that centerpiece who is the number one

1432
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 4: target for Daryl that Mary is asking MESSIASI.

1433
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: For oh G?

1434
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: I think, really wow, what about.

1435
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: Come on the Powers of Cameroon? Baby, I get it.

1436
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I'm just not sure what

1437
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 2: the Pascal yet? But O G seems to be on

1438
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: the way up even more every every season. I think,

1439
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: O Jesus, what I think Pascal is more gettable in

1440
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: that sense.

1441
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm Darryl Morian. I'm here to say I want to

1442
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 3: just give in Simmons a way all right? So I

1443
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: I I think, so you go in van Fleet or

1444
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 3: are you going?

1445
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 4: Uh?

1446
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: Someone else?

1447
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: You want to finish it? Finish that.

1448
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: My name's Massy. And if you think I'm giving you

1449
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: O G, did you're too high or goodbye?

1450
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1451
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 5: I mean.

1452
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: Either way too high?

1453
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: Ours. That's a tough trio. It's great you could pick.

1454
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: I know Fred is more of a fit for kind

1455
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: of what they want to Tyres Maxey has been playing

1456
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: really well, but Fred would be phenomenal on there. I think,

1457
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Fred would want to take those shots

1458
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: in big clutch situations. I think, I don't know. That's

1459
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: a tough one. That's a very tough one for MASSI

1460
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: I think mass I probably says, what does who does mess?

1461
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: I say, Yester, I don't know that tough.

1462
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: I it feels oddly realistic that there could be a

1463
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: rap sixers trade.

1464
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 4: I mean, there's just there's something. Y'all have a good

1465
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 4: case for any of them. Like, that's the tough thing

1466
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: to me, I was like, that's how you get thirty

1467
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 4: nine names on this. It's like there are three legitimate raptors.

1468
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 4: Can's right?

1469
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

1470
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 4: For me, I think it would probably be Van Vliet

1471
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 4: since we've seen him play alongside point guards for his

1472
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: entire career. Hit big shots, play defense. But yeah, it's

1473
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: a tough call. Next one from the Washington Wizard today,

1474
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal. Would Darryl do it for Spencer Dinwitty?

1475
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: Hmmm, that's that's the level of player. I think that

1476
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: that we're gonna find Darryl's got to do it for.

1477
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 3: I think so so so that's I mean to me,

1478
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: he's like maybe, I mean he's close to like the

1479
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: Grant level, Jeremy Grant level. I like, yeah, I like

1480
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: Dinwitty when he's healthy, he's actually a really hell of

1481
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: a good player, and he's not afraid of the moment

1482
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.

1483
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: It's having a good year, yeah, bounce back from the injury,

1484
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: feeling good prime of his career.

1485
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 3: I just think, like Wegger, Darryl, I feel like these

1486
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: trades would have been made already. This is the level

1487
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: we're talking about.

1488
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: I do yeah, because like at this, I mean, I know.

1489
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons has his warts and his problems and all that,

1490
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 3: but like a lot of these guys, you're like beat

1491
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 3: a Grant or something like that. Like you're like, yeah,

1492
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: we can still get Ben Simmons under contract for years

1493
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: and as I've said, build his trade value up and

1494
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: you can trade him and then get more assets. Like

1495
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 3: you can take the long view here, but you know,

1496
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious Darryl wants that level above these guys.

1497
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I like this from Ziggy Din. Would

1498
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 4: he do it.

1499
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 3: Nicely?

1500
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 4: Ponnd Kristaps Porzingis, would Darryll do it? Give me a

1501
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 4: simple yes or.

1502
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: Nowt here no, no, no good.

1503
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: We're triming names off Sea you buddy, Michael Porter Junior.

1504
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: Would Darryll do it?

1505
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think you can. Too risky, too risky. Yeah,

1506
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: you got you already.

1507
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: Haven't be that.

1508
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 3: You're like fingers crossed all the time that he's going

1509
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 3: to stay healthy and play. You can't do that again.

1510
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 4: No, would Darryl do it? Potential first time All Star

1511
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: Andrew Wiggins of the Golden State Warriors. This is when

1512
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: you see batted around quite a bit Wiggins for Simmons.

1513
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 4: Would Darryll do it?

1514
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: No, Jessica, their names rhyme. I don't think Darryl does it.

1515
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: Depends if he can also pick up what Aaron Wiggins

1516
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: from the Thunder I say no to that from Darryl's

1517
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 3: side of things.

1518
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know on Wiggins.

1519
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: All right.

1520
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 4: How about this one from the Houston Rockets John wall

1521
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 4: Wall for Simmons, he ain't playing.

1522
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming, he ain't playing. What do you think

1523
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: he stuck? Yeah, he's stuck with that contract if he

1524
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: if he gets at the next forty seven million next year.

1525
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: I don't think DAGs he wants that that deadweight on

1526
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: the on the books.

1527
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 4: There so no no from DAGs on that one. These

1528
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: are the heavy hitters right here. We're in the l

1529
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: A teams. Russell Westbrook.

1530
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: I love Westbrook and MB to be on the same team. No,

1531
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so.

1532
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be a no from me.

1533
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: DAGs Yeah too old, yeah, yeah, too too long in

1534
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: the tooth. I think people still say that.

1535
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 4: That's saying is long in the tooth as well.

1536
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: I think I think the Lakers they would do that. Yes,

1537
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: to think about it, Yeah, okay, all right.

1538
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 4: From the Memphis Grizzlies had a great game last night.

1539
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 4: Jared Jackson Junior. Would Darryl do it for Jaren Jackson Junior?

1540
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: Another big guy, but obviously Embeids more of a power player.

1541
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 4: It's a weird fit. Yeah, it's tough to think of

1542
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: the Sixers with another big guy going out there, right,

1543
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 4: that's a that's that's the thing. Yeah, which is why

1544
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 4: my guess is you'll probably say no to this one

1545
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 4: as well. From the Sixers, uh, for the Minnesota Timberwolves,

1546
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: Karl Anthony Towns, Towns and Embiid together, you.

1547
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: Know, wind up.

1548
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: I think if you were Darryl and like that was

1549
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 3: an actual for I think you have to take that, Yeah,

1550
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: I think you do it. I mean it's almost like

1551
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 3: cousins Anthony Davis back in you know, the Pelican States,

1552
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: which actually had some success until injuries sort of you know,

1553
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: bit them in the ass. I think he's just too

1554
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: talented to you just do it and you figure out

1555
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: whether it work, and then if if it doesn't, then

1556
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: of course you can look to move him again. So yeah,

1557
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 3: I actually would say yeah, just because of the level

1558
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 3: of player he is.

1559
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think I don't think.

1560
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: I don't think the Wolves are doing it really, but.

1561
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think if you can get Carl Anthony Town,

1562
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: do you think he can be that player we all

1563
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: thought he might have been four or five years ago.

1564
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: He can shoot the three, he can spread it out

1565
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: a bit. That's what I think is important here. And

1566
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: again again the way that Maxi's been playing, I think

1567
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: he can sort of maybe talk yourself into saying this

1568
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: could be Maxi's position that he's able to fill because

1569
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: all he has to do is feed these other guys.

1570
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: So I think if that's on the table, the Sixers

1571
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: do it.

1572
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1573
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 3: People are pointing out though Cat and embiid got some beef.

1574
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: It's good It's like Drummond and Linked had some beef. Yeah,

1575
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: two beak Man now on the same side. I think

1576
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: that'd be buds, beef buds.

1577
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be Towns, but I still

1578
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 3: think there is a Minnesota Timberwolves trade for Ben Simmons.

1579
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: That is, uh, you know, in play. Let's let's call

1580
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: it that, all right.

1581
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: How about the New Orleans Pelicans struggling to start the year.

1582
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 4: Haven't seen Zion Williamson. I don't think that the Pels

1583
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: are gonna trade Zion? But how about Brandon Ingram. Would

1584
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: Darryl do it for Brandon?

1585
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: I think so?

1586
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: I think so too.

1587
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be an Actually.

1588
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. I could see that working. There's a

1589
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: boost of score in there. I mean, you're you're going

1590
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: from one extreme to the other with I mean, but yeah,

1591
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 3: I could see it.

1592
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 4: I don't mind that one.

1593
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: He's gonna fire away. They'd like that.

1594
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 4: The thunder S g A seems unlikely. How about would

1595
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 4: Darryll do it for loud Dort as the centerpiece?

1596
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 3: Gonna be tough to make the contracts?

1597
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that way, that's true.

1598
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 3: True, So no, no.

1599
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 4: They might get Derek Favors as well yeah, yeah, oh

1600
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 4: that was the final note I meant to bring.

1601
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy to see Derek Favors beside Lou Dort Lee.

1602
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen it recently. He looks

1603
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 3: like a giant Dort.

1604
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

1605
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they got like similar look their hair, they

1606
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 3: got the head band. He's Derek Favors, got bigger than

1607
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: I remember. Yeah, maybe it's that orange is not complimentary either,

1608
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: but yeah, he's just a giant Dort. We were going

1609
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: on last night. Uh no, no.

1610
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 2: To Lou though Dot and Derek. Darryl says, no.

1611
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 4: Perfect, thank you. Okay, Phoenix Suns, they've been great to

1612
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 4: start the year, thirteen straight wins. But what if they

1613
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 4: fall off or what if they come up short in

1614
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs this year? How about Mikhale Bridges for Ben Simmons.

1615
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 3: Oh didn't couldn't the didn't the Sixers have him?

1616
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah they didn't.

1617
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, all right, because his mom

1618
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 3: like works in the front office.

1619
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: Right.

1620
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1621
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: I think Daryl was intrigued by this, But maybe he

1622
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: wants a little Maury. I'm not sure. I think I

1623
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: think he.

1624
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 4: Could get it little.

1625
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've got to bite though, I think

1626
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 2: you've got to bite.

1627
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he crosses that. Bridges. I don't think

1628
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: he does.

1629
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: Do you think there's too much campaign involved if he

1630
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 2: only does it for Bridges?

1631
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 4: Hating these puns?

1632
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: All right?

1633
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 4: Back to the.

1634
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: Blazers C J.

1635
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 4: McCollum for Ben Simmons, do it already? Obviously the answer

1636
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: is no, because if the answer was yes, it would

1637
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 4: be moving on Sacramento.

1638
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: Kings.

1639
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 4: They've got a million trade candidates as well. Number one

1640
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 4: Darren Fox. Would Darryll do it?

1641
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 2: Yes?

1642
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1643
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: What do you think skids?

1644
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 5: Big guy? Yeah? I am.

1645
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 3: I mean the the maxim part of it all is

1646
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 3: where I get hung up too, Nelly, I'm guards Yeah,

1647
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 3: you can, you can? I think he would he would

1648
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: do that? Yeah, Okay, they think that. I don't know

1649
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: if the Kings will explore that. Who knows what the Kings?

1650
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 4: How about from the other Kings? Buddy healed Er, Harrison Barnes.

1651
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: Who is more preferable for the Sixers? Who would be

1652
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 4: more want to have? He's Jucket, He's Tobias Harris.

1653
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: I was gonna says, has to be Buddy. I think

1654
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 3: if they have between the two.

1655
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: I think Buddy's more this specialist that Daryl Morey likes

1656
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 2: where it's you know, he's going to have the O

1657
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: for nine, but he could also have the eight for

1658
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 2: eleven a couple of times.

1659
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: So.

1660
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: And Harrison Barnes, I mean as a loyal, you know, honest,

1661
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: great guy to have in your locker room for sure,

1662
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: but canny canny sort of well it just seems like that,

1663
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: like a great guy. I just I just feel, you know,

1664
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: the ceiling of Harrison Barnes, great, reliable, consistent, you know.

1665
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: But Buddy, I think is just a little bit more erratic.

1666
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: But that could work in your favor at the right times, probably, Buddy.

1667
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: Okay, A lot of people think the Kings have the

1668
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: pieces to do a deal, though, you know, you get

1669
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: a couple of players in there, you throw the bags

1670
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 3: in there for DAGs and all.

1671
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 4: Right, two more teams, two players coming from the San

1672
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 4: Antonio Spurs, Derek White or Dejonte Murray. Would Darryl do

1673
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 4: it for either of those guys. Murray's having a good year.

1674
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 4: We've seen some nice Murray maybe from Derek White in

1675
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Seems taking a back seat there though Murray

1676
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 4: was possible put me down for he does it for Murray,

1677
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 4: doesn't do it for White.

1678
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: That would be my stance on that one. And and

1679
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 3: I don't think the Spurs would do Murray for Simmons,

1680
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 3: but I think they would do White. So there you go.

1681
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: Yes, interesting, Darryl pulls it. Yeah, for Dejonte, that's nice.

1682
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: That's a nice fit with who they have Maxi and

1683
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: Seth Curry to fit in a Dejonte would be really

1684
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: nice to have a defensive guard. Yeah, Spurs wouldn't do it. Huh.

1685
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: I guess not. I guess now, you're right.

1686
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, well, to see Simmons with Popovich, so be

1687
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 3: at eating If.

1688
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 4: You can't shoot after playing with the Spurs, buddy, you

1689
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 4: can't shoot.

1690
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, it's true. See if they can fix

1691
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: it all right?

1692
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 4: Last name, one of my favorite trades, one of the

1693
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 4: most unrealistic. This one would have to be after the

1694
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 4: Utah Jazz flame out in the playoffs this year, maybe

1695
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 4: if they struggle to start next season, Donovan Mitchell for

1696
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons. I can't imagine the Utah Jazz doing it

1697
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 4: right now, can no, No, not now. A lot of

1698
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 4: bad stuff would have to happen, But I think that's

1699
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 4: an easy yes.

1700
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 3: For Darryl Oh, Yeah, yeah, because that to me, it's

1701
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 3: that's like Tatum like right, you know, that's the sort

1702
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 3: of the level of the player we're talking about here

1703
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 3: and still being fairly young, and yeah, Sixers do it.

1704
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 3: No way Jazz are doing it. Things would have to

1705
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 3: go so poorly for them to to explore that. There

1706
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 3: it is.

1707
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 5: That's names.

1708
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 4: Thirty nine names. How many we get rid of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

1709
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 4: sixteen seven. So we're down to twenty two names. I

1710
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 4: need eight more for next week.

1711
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 3: All right, Well let us know in the stream too.

1712
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: I was I like that good stuff there, TK. It's tough.

1713
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you throw it out there and you gotta

1714
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 3: like you're trying to put yourself in the in the

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01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: sixer shoes, the other team shoes, the fit. Like you said, Lee,

1716
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 3: you know you have a big embid. Who's an All

1717
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: NBA player? Do you believe in Maxie? You got Tobias Harris.

1718
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 3: Half these guys you mentioned just feel like Tobias Harris.

1719
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a difficult man. Training in the NBA

1720
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 3: is not as easy as they as they maybe say

1721
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: it is. Okay, we gotta take one more break when

1722
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 3: we come back on. Excellent tweet of the night from

1723
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: our man Ley, so don't go anywhere. Hey, those were

1724
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: two great adreads, thanks man.

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01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: Welcome from a punk and a poet that you know it?

1726
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were Yeah, you brought it a JD. Before

1727
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 3: we get to tweet the night, I saw a comment

1728
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 3: here in the in the stream team from Ibrahim. He

1729
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: asks Lee Ellis for Ben Simmons, would GD do it?

1730
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 6: And I hope it's perfect?

1731
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: It's perfect. Then I get to play in the NBA.

1732
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 4: So great, we would do it.

1733
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 6: I'm kidding Lee, I would never give you ever. I'm

1734
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 6: never going to give you. I'm Rick Astley over here.

1735
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: I didn't think.

1736
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: So we'll be together forever. Is that what you're saying, JD.

1737
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

1738
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get to tweeted the night.

1739
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: Tweet over night wow twitter, oh.

1740
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: Leally, sometimes the NBA just just hands you a tweet

1741
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 3: of the night on a silver platter.

1742
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: I am I right, absolutely, you are ask t Of course,

1743
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 2: we have to talk about Kyle Kuzmer and that whatever

1744
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: the hell this was he wore last night. The tweet

1745
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 2: officially comes in here from Molly Morrison because here's Cou's

1746
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 2: posting this whatever this was. I thought it was a

1747
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: photoshop at first. When I first saw it, I was like,

1748
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: this can't be real. I thought it was one of

1749
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: those you know, get twenty five likes and this will

1750
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: just get bigger and bigger. But this is actually what

1751
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: cous wore.

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01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I was listening. It's a giant ass pink sweater, like.

1753
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, it is, just just because anyway, you don't

1754
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: wear something like that and not expect to get lit

1755
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: up by your colleagues and friends. And that's exactly what

1756
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: happened on Instagram. And as Molly said, Kyle was fighting

1757
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: for his life getting comments from everybody. What have we got?

1758
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: The first one here from King James, ain't no fucking

1759
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 2: where you wore that. I'm not pressing the like button

1760
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: because this is outrageous. Cous Cous shots back lmao.

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 4: That shit fire.

1762
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: Jr. Smith menhell nor cous rides back cold out. You

1763
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: can sort of feel already that cous is like, oh,

1764
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 2: I'm under the pump here, what I'm going to do here?

1765
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: And then the last one came in from Isaiah Thomas.

1766
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: Come on Killer Loel that one, ain't it haha? Becus

1767
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: By this point, I think it's just tired of responding

1768
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 2: and stuff. It's cold. Really good job there from everyone

1769
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: last night. Cous look, he knew he was going to

1770
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: bring some attention to himself last night, tried to defend it.

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01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: I think he realized this is probably not a fit

1772
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 2: we're going to see from him again. But listen, sometimes

1773
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: you just never know. Maybe people he thought we're going

1774
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, I could like a Twitter I

1775
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: could like a sweater like that, but I don't think so.

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01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a nice color on them, it's just comically,

1777
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 3: it's like a giant shack and sat scart for a

1778
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: balling tournament. It's just too damn big. I did see

1779
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,919
Speaker 3: I with Sean you, I know, one of your favorite

1780
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: Twitter personalities out there. He said he wants to see

1781
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: somebody pull off that sweater that kuz my head, the

1782
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: scarf that Serge ibaka war one time, which is like

1783
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 3: you remember, just gigantic down to the floor and Tracy

1784
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 3: mcgrady's giant pants that he wore an NBA TV A

1785
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: pure comfort. Yeah, I will see if anybody can pull

1786
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 3: off all three. Know what do you think of the

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01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: sweater there task the giant sweater on cous.

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01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: I think he put it on as soon as he

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01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: got out of the car and then took it off

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: as soon as he got in the locker room. He

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: wore it for like thirteen seconds. I think just the

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01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: walkway here, the walkway which isn't it isn't much of

1793
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: a walkway. It's like a dimly lit hallway. Yeah, so

1794
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: did he wear it? No? I am, oh, he didn't

1795
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: wear it.

1796
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 3: Really, you don't think it if you wear it from

1797
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: the car to the locker room.

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01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: Freaking the door, the door, the locker room door closed,

1799
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: and he ripped that thing off. It doesn't doesn't feel authentic.

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 3: If I'm his teammate and he walks into the locker

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 3: room wearing that, somebody, or at least a couple of us,

1802
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: we have to wrap him up right into like a

1803
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: straight jacket, like you gotta Yeah, you gotta take the sleeves,

1804
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: wrap him around his chest, and then tie it in

1805
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: the back so he's stuck. I mean, you have to have.

1806
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 3: I hope that at least happened in the Wizard's locker room.

1807
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 3: But TK man, you get off the fire fits on

1808
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: our show? Would you wear this? You like it? Thumbs up,

1809
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: thumbs down?

1810
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 4: I like it. I don't know why. Once I saw

1811
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 4: the video of Benson or Ben Simmons, I got Simmons

1812
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 4: on the mind right now. Kyle Kuzma saw him walking unbelievable.

1813
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 4: It looked like he was floating. This thing was so long.

1814
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 4: Then once he gets to the locker room, he had

1815
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 4: to roll up his sleeves for like thirty seconds to

1816
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 4: be able to get to his hands open the door.

1817
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

1818
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 4: He's right, it's getting cold out and this thing looks

1819
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 4: incredibly cozy.

1820
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1821
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 4: Is there video of him wearing it? Like post game?

1822
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 4: You would imagine that after the game, he's all sweaty,

1823
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 4: he's gonna put on his giant sweater.

1824
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

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01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure anyway, what a look? What a look?

1826
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 3: Jd Any Any final thoughts on Kyle Kuzma's giant pink sweater.

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01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 6: I mean not really. It's uh, you know, Serge Ibaka

1828
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 6: had the scarf and I thought that actually worked. This

1829
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 6: does not work for me. I mean no, he looks

1830
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 6: like a toddler wearing his dad or mom's sweater, like, yeah, around,

1831
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 6: it's looks like.

1832
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 4: It when any of us would try on one of

1833
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 4: Shack's articles of.

1834
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally that's that's exactly what Nora.

1835
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 6: I reject the notion that it's cold like his like

1836
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 6: he should have just said it's fashion. Man, it's just fashion,

1837
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 6: but not cold like like, look at his shoulders are

1838
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 6: totally exposed. I mean he needs a surge abaka a

1839
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 6: scarf to go along with this.

1840
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, is he scumbag steping it up underneath that?

1841
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 3: So wow there's no undershirt?

1842
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, I'm crazy.

1843
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Let's hear from everybody in the stream.

1844
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: Team thumbs up, her thumbs down. Let us know in

1845
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 3: the YouTube comments below as well. Great tweet of the night,

1846
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 3: there Ley, and I think you were you brought up

1847
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: whether or not you thought that was like one of

1848
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 3: those fake things Lee where like they make it bigger

1849
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 3: and bigger and bigger. People did do that as well.

1850
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 3: That was going around every twenty five likes, the sweater

1851
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 3: got twenty five percent bigger, it got got gigantic in

1852
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: a hurry pick a results so brought to by Bett

1853
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 3: MGM from last night thunder Hawks game, Hawks were fired

1854
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 3: by ten and a half. I was the only one

1855
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: to take. Okay, see Hawks pulled away in the third quarter.

1856
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Like we said, I turned my man Trey. I said,

1857
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: I sort of like my chances of a backdoor cover

1858
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: on this one. You know, Hawks starters are gonna get

1859
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: out of there, eh, Thunder, I got a lot of

1860
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: these guys sort of fighting for a position in this league.

1861
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they keep it close and somehow cover. They almost did.

1862
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 3: In fact, it was the worst way to lose because

1863
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 3: the Thunder hit a three, they cut it to eleven,

1864
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 3: and there's like, what was there, like thirty seconds left

1865
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 3: in the game, and the Hawks did the thing like, well,

1866
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 3: we've won the game, so we will just stand here

1867
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 3: with the ball, run the shot clock down, and then

1868
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: there'll be four seconds left. And I'm going, oh, will

1869
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 3: somebody on the Thunder get that ball and just chuck

1870
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: up a shot. You know, it's an unwritten rule to

1871
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 3: not do that, but you see it sometimes something like

1872
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 3: who cared? I'm getting my three points where I'm getting

1873
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 3: a shot up?

1874
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 4: Who cares?

1875
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 3: I want to get in the box score. But they didn't.

1876
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 3: The Thunder got a chance four seconds on the sidelines

1877
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 3: and they threw it in and nope. So I lost

1878
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 3: a lot.

1879
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 4: Of respect out there taking those shot clock violations.

1880
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 3: I was screaming for them to shoot it, but they

1881
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 3: did not, So that's a loss for me. I'm seven

1882
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: to nine. Tray improves to eight and eight wins for

1883
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: everybody else Task thirteen and three and Lie ten and six.

1884
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 3: So it's really getting down to me and TK. Here

1885
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 3: only four games on tonight. Task, where are we going?

1886
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Let's get to five hundred, everybody, let's do this thing.

1887
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: I stayed away from Dallas Clippers because Lucas status uncertain.

1888
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: Stayed away from the Denver Nuggets game for the same

1889
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: reason with Nicola Jokic. I was trying to get away

1890
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: from this East Coast bias. The Knixt Nixt next next Knicks,

1891
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: they're playing the Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, but I couldn't. I

1892
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: couldn't get away. So we're going Knicks at home three

1893
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites against the Los Angeles Lakers.

1894
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: No Lebron suspended, Rose is questionable, So that gave us,

1895
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, varying opinions here Splitsville for us, two on

1896
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: the Lakers, one on the Knicks, and one on the

1897
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: statue of Liberty is leading tweets the emoji or sent

1898
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 1: in the emoji of the statue of Liberty. I actually

1899
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: is a good one.

1900
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 2: I actually sent in an apple. First, I had the

1901
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: apple ready, and then I was like, you know, big apple.

1902
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: I think that'd be pretty obvious. Then I remember it's statue.

1903
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: It's bang, this guy knows emoji's statue.

1904
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: This ain't the w NBA, it's not the New York Liberty,

1905
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: it's the New York Nicks. All right, dainst the Lakers. Yeah,

1906
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: that's it. Gonna be a tough one. Yeah, looking forward to.

1907
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 3: Three and a half. So Nick's got to win by

1908
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 3: four more for TK and the lead to get the victory.

1909
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 3: And I could really use the Lakers giving us a

1910
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 3: very close game or winning outright in order to tie

1911
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 3: this up with Trey as we start running out of

1912
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: ds in November. All right, should be a good one.

1913
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 3: That's the first game on T and T tonight and

1914
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: the Nuggets Blazers, I believe is the second game of

1915
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 3: that double header. Well call it there long one, lots

1916
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 3: of fun, lots of laughs. Send in your questions, guys,

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01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,360
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1924
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Speaker 3: No Dunks. You've got less than a week now to

1925
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 3: sign up for that. So don't drag your feet, you know,

1926
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 3: don't drag your sweater on the floor like your Kyle

1927
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 3: Kuzman there. That would have been a mess. It's basically

1928
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: like all over the ground almost. It's so long. Imagine

1929
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 3: cleaning that, Lee, would you drop that off at dry cleaning?

1930
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 3: What do you do? Take up your entire washing machine?

1931
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I think you have to go to

1932
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: the dry clans. They've got the big industrial clean is.

1933
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you're right.

1934
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:23,799
Speaker 1: I agree.

1935
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Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, guys, Copper Bros. You heard it here first.

1936
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Speaker 4: Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1937
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And sorry, JD, You're gonna go

1938
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: a little bit longer here. I've got some info from

1939
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: a man, Ryan Setting, the incredible bowler. Ryan Setting about

1940
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: bowling balls. Okay, I asked him, can you drill holes

1941
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: anywhere on a bowling ball? Can you put your fingers

1942
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: wherever you want? He said, every bowling ball has a core,

1943
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: so where you drill the holes basically determines if the

1944
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: ball goes further down the lane before hooking or vice versa.

1945
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: I said, can you put the hole anywhere? Answer the question,

1946
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: the damn question. He said, you can put them in

1947
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Speaker 1: some places, but not everywhere because you can't touch the core.

1948
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 1: And then he sent me a photo. He sent me

1949
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Speaker 1: a photo of a bowling ball with a yellow dot

1950
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Speaker 1: on it. He said, that yellow circle is the pin

1951
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: the top of the core. That's what that yellow circle indicates.

1952
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: That spot says tour with the circle thing is the

1953
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: center of gravity of the core. That's where the center

1954
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: of the gravity of the core is. Wow. Physics man,

1955
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Speaker 1: the placement of the holes. Use this information and a

1956
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: few other things to decide the best placement of the holes.

1957
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: So it's about it's physics man. And I said, can

1958
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: you get larger hole sizes? He said, yes, there are

1959
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: standard hole sizes, but you can get larger I do

1960
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: because I use grips and a thumbsleeve. I said, are

1961
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Speaker 1: you a professional bowler? He said, fuck no, and then

1962
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: he said, I bowled for the first time in twenty

1963
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: months last week. But he's one tournaments and he's a

1964
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 1: professional bowler in my heart because he's got the maple

1965
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 1: moxie to win bowling tournaments and to tell us about

1966
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: burying strikes. I can't believe that all that info is

1967
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: buried in a two hour podcast. Right at the end,

1968
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: Ryan Setting buries strikes. He buries the info for us

1969
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Speaker 1: on bowling balls. Anyways, Its cool story, bro.

1970
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Speaker 3: You embrace the day people.

1971
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Speaker 2: You could stay.

1972
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Every day, doge happy every minute. It's been so long

1973
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 3: with your FUNA already, it's gonna be grevy