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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan,

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Speaker 1: warmly joined as I am every Friday morning by Debro

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Speaker 1: and Pat Fitzmorris. Guys, I was not here last Friday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Seth Wilcock for filling in as host.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate him stepping up while I was. I still

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Speaker 1: am on the mend, but when I was just starting

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Speaker 1: off being on the shelf. So thanks to him for

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Speaker 1: helping out last week. I hope you guys had fun.

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Speaker 1: You guys came up with your own key questions for

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Speaker 1: that episode, right, how was that experienced?

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Speaker 2: Debro?

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, shout out to Seth. Seth actually knocked it

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Speaker 3: out of the park.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he ended up coming up with them himself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came up with them, and Fitz and I

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Speaker 3: were left to evaluate and we were like, looks pretty good, Bud,

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Speaker 3: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great. I was guess I was.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you guys were going to do it

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Speaker 1: as was initially planned, just so I could, you know,

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Speaker 1: have you guys pulled back the curtain and see what

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Speaker 1: it's like coming up with these questions every episode?

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Speaker 3: Well, since you're starting this off with a question, can

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Speaker 3: I ask you a question worm, of course, how how

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Speaker 3: are those electric carts in Walmart? Are they faster than

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Speaker 3: I think? Or the how does that work out? So?

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Speaker 3: How much? How much groceries can you store in the

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Speaker 3: front cupboard?

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Speaker 2: I haven't used them yet.

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Speaker 1: My mom was very nice and flew out to help

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Speaker 1: out for the first week post surgery. So a buddy

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Speaker 1: of mine I said this on yesterday's show, lent me

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Speaker 1: a knee scooter from when he had torn his achilles.

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Speaker 1: So I was on the on the front. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have the best that My mom was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: pushing the cart and I was in the knee scooter

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Speaker 1: next to her, like in the grocery store, like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I usually get this as you get that.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: I have not attempted to buy groceries by myself quite yet,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not looking forward to that experience.

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Speaker 3: This thing sucks. I can only pit three six packs

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Speaker 3: in this.

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Speaker 1: Come on, there is like a tidy little bag on

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Speaker 1: the knee scooter that like I put a couple stuff in.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like all right, yeah, it's not like

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Speaker 1: it's not like a it's a it's like a personalnee scooter.

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Speaker 1: It's not like at the grocery store, so it's not

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Speaker 1: designed for that.

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Speaker 3: Like you go get some shampoo or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I guess I'm like I want to

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Speaker 1: bring in like a backpack and be like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: promise I'm gonna pay for everything in here. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to steal with you. Mind if I just like

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Speaker 1: throw this in the back going around you check out

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Speaker 1: my backpack?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exact, can go to there, b b b b beep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the little stuff that you don't think about, uh,

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Speaker 1: that gets more difficult. So a good key question by

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Speaker 1: you Berry de bro if it's how you doing them

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Speaker 1: this Friday morning?

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Speaker 4: Doing great, Worm, Great to have you back from your

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Speaker 4: foot surgery and ready to discuss what you know. Deebro

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Speaker 4: and I were just talking about this off camera.

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Speaker 5: What a great slate it is this week.

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Speaker 4: We have some fun matchups, man, Like, anytime you get

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Speaker 4: like a half dozen or more good matchups, it's a

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Speaker 4: good week in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And we've got to leave six or seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it already started last night Thursday Night football

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Speaker 1: was a stunningly great.

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Speaker 5: Time, expectedly enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: Man thirty disappointed Boys.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three thirty one man wild game.

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Speaker 4: I was down in the dumps from you know, the

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Speaker 4: Brewers going down three to nothing, and that game ended

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Speaker 4: shortly into the start of Bengals Steelers. But man, that

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Speaker 4: game kind of lifted my spirits. Like that was just

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun to watch, really fun to see

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase and t Higgins both heavily involved again. And

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Speaker 4: kudos to Joe Flacco for resuscitating the Bengals passing game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the right phrase is, but heavily

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Speaker 1: involved doesn't seem like enough for thirty three combined targets,

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Speaker 1: twenty two combined catches, one hundred and sixty one yards

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Speaker 1: for Chase, ninety six yards for Higgins, a touchdown each.

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Speaker 2: I mean Flacco.

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Speaker 1: There were people were making jokes right and left on

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Speaker 1: social media last night, but like resurrecting the fantasy hopes

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Speaker 1: for this team, and it's it's not just Chase and

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Speaker 1: Higgins who have looked great here. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: Flaco himself three hundred and forty two yards and three touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: but Chase Brown also having room to run and looking

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Speaker 1: but looking closer to what we were expecting when he

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Speaker 1: was being drafted in the third and fourth round of drafts.

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Speaker 1: This year, he had eleven carries one hundred and eight yards.

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Speaker 1: He had a long thirty seven. That's his longest of

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Speaker 1: the season. So Debro, Yeah, Like the Bengals just like

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Speaker 1: looking like they're not going to be contenders right without

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, but just looking like they can still be

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Speaker 1: a team that bring and the Steelers defense has problems,

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Speaker 1: but the Bengals looking at the very least like a

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Speaker 1: team that can be above water in terms of the

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Speaker 1: fantasy relevance of these stars that we were drafting as stars.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think the other thing that like if

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Speaker 3: Flacco is gonna give relevance to this passing game, I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: what do y'all think about their upcoming schedule? They get

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Speaker 3: the Jets, the Bears, Steelers again, which apparently they're Their

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Speaker 3: defense is just absolutely fraudulent this year. I tried to

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Speaker 3: give them more credence and I was like, oh, maybe

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Speaker 3: they're getting better. They're not the Patriots, the Ravens, the Bills,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens again, Dolphins. Car like you got a pretty

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Speaker 3: good restless season, schedule. So I mean, if you bought

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Speaker 3: low on this offense, like you got Chase in the trade.

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Speaker 3: And I saw multiple people on Discord hit me up

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Speaker 3: last night like, yeah, maybe they traded for Jamar Chase

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Speaker 3: or t Higgins or heck, some of people even went

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Speaker 3: out and got Chase Brown. Feeling pretty good this morning

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase in the consensus rest of season or I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at weekly arrested. I'm just trying to pull up

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season here, Fitz. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you where you think he should be rest of

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Speaker 1: in consensus. He's wide receiver four, Okay, I gotta pulled up.

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Speaker 1: So he's behind jsn Amenra and Puca. But obviously Pooka

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Speaker 1: rest of season and Higgins. Obviously this is not accounting

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver thirty four, so that I think would

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Speaker 1: probably move up just as people get more comfortable with Flacco.

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Speaker 2: How far up do you think that's gonna move?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Chase is probably going to go into

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Speaker 4: the top three. And I also had him wide receiver

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Speaker 4: four rest of season, not having adjusted for last night's

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Speaker 4: Higgins wide receiver thirty six. Gonna have to move him

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Speaker 4: up to It's just fun. Like we know the interceptions

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Speaker 4: are coming for Joe Flack. Yeah, yeah, there he is

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Speaker 4: gonna throw interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Who cares getting fantasy perspective.

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Speaker 4: Right, we were getting interceptions from Jake Browning and without

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Speaker 4: any of the passing game goodness, and now we're at

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Speaker 4: least getting the goodness.

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Speaker 5: So like Chase, Chase and Higgins.

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Speaker 4: Investors have to be just over the moon with what

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Speaker 4: they saw last night.

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Speaker 3: Flacco, just keep doing your best, Jameis Winston, that's all

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Speaker 1: The lastly two before we get to the Steelers side,

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Speaker 1: he threw forty seven times. He doesn't need to throw

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Speaker 1: Chasing Higgins, Like, as long as they are getting this

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Speaker 1: if Flacco throws twelve fewer times in a game, because

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Speaker 1: it's going to be so concentrated on those two.

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Speaker 4: So and yet, like we saw what how many yards

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Speaker 1: Yep, Yoshabash had forty nine and Fans had forty four

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Speaker 2: But that was I was on four targets each.

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Speaker 1: So on the Steelers side, Jalen Warren looked great, obviously,

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Speaker 1: sixteen carries one hundred and twenty seven yards. Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the throw on the hail Mary attempt

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Speaker 5: That was rocket.

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Speaker 1: That was like a jaw drop dropping just amount of

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Speaker 1: forty two or whatever years old he is, So that

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Speaker 2: But Pat Fryarmouth Debro.

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Speaker 1: Five catches one hundred eleven yards, two touchdowns, like obviously

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Speaker 1: Very much a Arthur Smith in a special there, especially

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Speaker 1: also with the you know, the all four touchdowns going

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Speaker 2: By the end, Yeah, I think it's fool's goal man.

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Speaker 3: Walking into this week, they were using Darnel Washington and

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Speaker 3: and he got as many targets as Friarmth. I'm not

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Speaker 3: buying the Friarmuth stuff, Like, I just think it's still

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Speaker 3: Washington playing like another offensive lineman spot and depending on

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Speaker 3: what they want to do on the weekly basis, ILO

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Speaker 3: think like the Steelers are if they're fully gonna go

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Speaker 3: Like it just DCA. I mean, can we talk about

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Speaker 3: it for a second deca Metcalf's performance last night, Like

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers just didn't look at him in the second half,

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Speaker 3: like everybody like myself that was, you know, betting receiving

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Speaker 3: doing here? So I don't know, man, I'm not buying

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Speaker 3: the Friar mut stuff in this offense just in general,

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Speaker 3: like outside of Jalen Warren and streaming Aaron Rodgers, I

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Speaker 4: Of it fits as you think, Yeah, I mean DK,

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Speaker 4: he's got this weird usage this week. We think of

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Speaker 4: DK as like sort of a Mike Evans type a

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Speaker 4: Like I think he is right now approaching his yardage

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Speaker 3: I think he keeps the hot street going, guys. And

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Speaker 3: I mean he's gotten a twenty two percent target share,

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Speaker 4: I'm cautiously optimistic about Brian Thomas Junior. Friend of the

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Speaker 2: Where you have him in the ranks this week, fits.

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Speaker 4: I have got Brian Thomas Junior at wide receiver thirteen.

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Speaker 3: It's just right. I've got him at wide receiver twelve,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, I've got him below one spot below

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Speaker 1: First game in the kind of more normal early slate

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking about a dunesday. I'm asking about DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 1: On a scale from one to ten, How real was

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Speaker 5: So are we saying the real end of the spectrum

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Speaker 1: Ten is like he's going to be a top six

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Speaker 1: He's going to come back crashing back to earth. Not

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Speaker 1: Debra, are you buying into any kind of revenge game

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Speaker 3: I mean, Ratler, Look, everybody's going to hype themselves up somehow,

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Speaker 3: And I'm not going to tell them not to do it.

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Speaker 4: I forgot that Caleb totally displays Spencer Rattler.

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Speaker 1: because he's from the DC area, and he obviously did

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Speaker 1: not and didn't I don't think ultimately ended up considering

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Speaker 1: him that closely, but the rumors for a while locally

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Speaker 1: were that he was, you know, giving consideration to Maryland,

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Speaker 1: So that that early career, Caleb I was paying very

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Speaker 1: close attention and imagining if he had been in College

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Speaker 1: Park instead. So I do remember that that that that

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Speaker 1: stuff going on with Ratler. Let's go to the next

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Speaker 1: game here, alphen zat Brown's Initially, I kind of struggled

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Speaker 1: to come up with a good question on this, so

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Speaker 1: I kind of just you know, throughout you know, what

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Speaker 1: player in this game do you guys disagree with their

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Speaker 1: consensus ranking most strongly? I do want to note though that,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about this a little bit yesterday. Fits

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Speaker 1: the weather now looks very bad for this game, and

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Speaker 1: debro Fits, you know, said on the Thursday Show with

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Speaker 1: Jake that you know, he tends to be a fade

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Speaker 1: the weather narrative type of manager. He's not overly worried

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Speaker 1: about it to an extreme end, though you do have

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Speaker 1: to consider it. And the reporting yesterday was maybe wins

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Speaker 1: even as high as fifty and sixty miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: There's also ninety four percent chance of rain. And we

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Speaker 1: were talking about two quarterbacks who are not exactly known

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Speaker 1: for having particularly strong arms.

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Speaker 2: So you can still.

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Speaker 1: Answer the initial question that I post to you guys

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Speaker 1: when I was putting together the sheet of which player

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Speaker 1: you disagree with on their consensus ranking? But I want

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Speaker 1: to get your take on the extreme weather here too,

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Speaker 1: and how that's impacting your rankings this week.

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Speaker 3: Debro. Yeah, so I'm with fits that I don't usually

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Speaker 3: freak out because whenever we get weather issues later into

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Speaker 3: the year, that's the first questions we get in discord

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Speaker 3: and stuff where people are like, oh my gosh, the weather,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, dude, the wind's like ten miles an hour,

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Speaker 3: it's going to rain a little bit, Like what do

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Speaker 3: you wigging out about? Like, I'm not worried about that

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Speaker 3: when we get two monsoon level conditions, Yes, it's going

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Speaker 3: to impact it. Like you're talking like twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: sustained wins gusts up above that. So I do think

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Speaker 3: it's going to impact the game environment with this game,

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Speaker 3: not so much the rain, but the sustained wins. And

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Speaker 3: you talked about it where I'm like, these are two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: We're not talking about arm strength a ton, So we're

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Speaker 3: gonna see some ducks here, probably a lot more rushing

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Speaker 3: like over under quin Shawn Judkins seventy five carries in

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Speaker 3: this game. The guy that I'm I'll pull out of

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Speaker 3: here that I disagree with consensus ranking if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: get a touchdown in this game, I'm not ranking Darren

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Speaker 3: Waller inside my top twelve tight ends for the week.

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Speaker 3: And I understand, like, Okay, he's run high with the

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Speaker 3: touchdowns he saved himself with that. The match up, the

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Speaker 3: coverage matchup for Darren Waller is quietly terrible. Like the

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Speaker 3: fact that the Cleveland Browns are running single high at

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Speaker 3: the third highest rate sixty one percent of the defensive

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Speaker 3: snaps hurts Darren Waller. Since being on the field for

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins, He's gotten two targets two versus single high.

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Speaker 3: He is a five point one percent target chaer versus

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Speaker 3: single high. So the fact that this is what the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins are going to see a ton you talk about

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Speaker 3: the weather and all that kind of stuff. Maybe Darren

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Speaker 3: Waller like saves his day with a touchdown, but outside

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Speaker 3: of that, I'm not going to be ranking him inside

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Speaker 3: my top twelve tight ends for the week.

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Speaker 2: Fits what do you think?

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Speaker 4: I just don't want to play anyone from the passing

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Speaker 4: games in this contest on either side.

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Speaker 5: Through no fault of his own.

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Speaker 4: The guy would probably disagree with most done rankings as

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Speaker 4: Jalen Waddle because he's ranked as a high end wide

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Speaker 4: receiver two. I think is ECRs wide receiver sixteen. So

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Speaker 4: I've got him down a wide receiver twenty two, and

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Speaker 4: even that seems optimistic. You just hope he catches a

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Speaker 4: lot of short passes and maybe volume carries the day

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Speaker 4: for him. He has been really good in the two

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Speaker 4: games the Dolphins have had to play without Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 4: since his knee injury. But yeah, the conditions are just

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Speaker 4: going to be brutal here, and there is a wind

519
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Speaker 4: tunnel effect in Cleveland Stadium. That is the one stadium

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Speaker 4: I get a little concerned with windy conditions in because, yeah,

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Speaker 4: when people ask me rankings questions and try to lead

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Speaker 4: me saying, oh, well, this guy is dealing with fifteen

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Speaker 4: mile an hour, fifteen.

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Speaker 5: Mile an hour wins, is not it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go out and throw a nerf ball in your

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Speaker 4: yard in fifteen mile an hour wins. It's not like

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Speaker 4: you can't hit a target. But twenty five mile an

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Speaker 4: hour wins with gusts forty four miles an hour in rain. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm fading the passers and give me all the Quinchawn

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Speaker 4: Judkins and Devon a Chan.

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Speaker 1: Next game up here, guys, Raiders at Chiefs. Rashi Rice

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Speaker 1: is back, so we of course have to ask about him.

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Speaker 1: It's the key storyline in this game.

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Speaker 2: Fits.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, what are your expectations for Rice

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Speaker 1: and for how he impacts the other Fantasy relevant players

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Speaker 1: in this Chiefs offense.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll do well. I have him ranked as

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Speaker 4: a low end wide receiver one this week. Rice has

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Speaker 4: kind of a specialized role in that offense, so it

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Speaker 4: should be pretty seamless when he steps back into that role.

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Speaker 4: He's a short area receiver, doesn't really run the full

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Speaker 4: righte tree. His average depth of target for his career

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Speaker 4: is four point nine yards. But Andy Reid's playbook is

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Speaker 4: full of good stuff for Rice. That has just worked

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Speaker 4: splendidly all sorts of wide receiver screens and quick hitters,

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Speaker 4: and Patrick Mahomes is slinging it around man. The Chiefs

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Speaker 4: have a pass rate over expected of plus nine point

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Speaker 4: seven percent, highest in the league, so Rice's return is

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Speaker 4: great for Mahomes. He's QB one and fantasy scoring and

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Speaker 4: could very well stay there all season. Rice's return probably

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Speaker 4: not as good for Xavier Worthy, but maybe it's not

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Speaker 4: that bad because yeah, Worthy most likely loses some target share,

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Speaker 4: but maybe Rice's presence gives Worthy and efficiency boost like

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Speaker 4: they have complimentary roles, and defenses are going to have

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Speaker 4: to pay close attention to Rice. Now, Travis Kelsey's target chair,

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Speaker 4: it's probably going to settle in. It's something like fifteen percent,

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Speaker 4: so he's maybe a lower end tight end one, not

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Speaker 4: not so much a mid range tight end one. And

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Speaker 4: then Hollywood Brown pretty much becomes unplayable for fantasy. And

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Speaker 4: how much are the Chiefs gonna bother running the ball

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Speaker 4: now that they're fully staffed a wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: Deebro, what do you think so Rice's wide receiver nine

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Speaker 1: in the consensus rankings for this week. That actually does

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Speaker 1: feel aggressive to me, Just like first game back. You

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Speaker 1: never know, like what kind of rust there will be

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Speaker 1: to shake off. You know, he's not just coming back

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Speaker 1: from suspension, but you know was pretty badly injured the

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Speaker 1: last time he played. It was a long time ago

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Speaker 1: at this point, but still it is his first game

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Speaker 1: back from them, So I don't like the idea and

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Speaker 1: a vacuum of putting him inside the top ten. Having

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Speaker 1: said that, looking at the names after him, like wide

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Speaker 1: receiver ten is Roma Doonsday eleven is George Pickens with

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb coming back, Deeba Samuel is twelfth, and he's

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Speaker 1: you know, hasn't really practiced this week, you know, Brian

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Speaker 1: Thomas Unior, Jalen Wattle, we just talked about the weather.

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Speaker 1: So like, there's not a ton of obvious names to

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Speaker 1: put ahead of him. Even if I don't like having Rice,

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Speaker 1: like wide receiver nine feels too strong in a vacuum,

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Speaker 1: where do you have Rice ranked?

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Speaker 2: Deebro in his first game back.

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Speaker 3: I've got him as a wide receiver one. I've got

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Speaker 3: him at wide receiver eleven. I mean, I understand the hesitation.

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Speaker 3: I guess to me, if you look at this, it's

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Speaker 3: more of just the mid season, the fact that he's

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Speaker 3: coming back mid season. If we all zoomed out about

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Speaker 3: this and said, okay, if this was Week one and

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Speaker 3: Rashid Rice was going to be a full go, where

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Speaker 3: would we be ranking him? And so that's where I

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Speaker 3: think it's appropriate, because if that was the case and

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Speaker 3: he was coming back and if anything, you can make

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Speaker 3: the case he should be healthier now than he would

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Speaker 3: have been in Week one coming back from the injury.

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Speaker 3: So considering all of that, like I think the rankings appropriate.

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Speaker 3: The betting markets are saying they're aggressive on him as well,

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Speaker 3: like hard Rock bet right now has his line at

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Speaker 3: sixty two and a half receiving yards. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to shade anybody taking the over now. I'm probably

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Speaker 3: like shading away from it a little bit, but I

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Speaker 3: think he's going to step back in and be their

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Speaker 3: unquestioned wide receiver one. The matchup is good. We know

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Speaker 3: that he is their zone beating option. The Las Vegas

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Speaker 3: Raiders run zone at the highest rate in the NFL

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Speaker 3: eighty six point two percent, and they're also top twelve

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Speaker 3: and as far as PPR points for target giving up

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Speaker 3: to slot receivers. So yeah, I'm with it. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying that it doesn't feel aggressive, but I think the

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Speaker 3: reason it feels aggressive is first game back, middle of

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Speaker 3: the season. If we flip this on its head and

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Speaker 3: this was the start of the season and he was

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Speaker 3: good to go week one, this is where we'd be

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Speaker 3: ranking him.

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Speaker 1: See, I would actually be even I would be fading

658
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: him more. If it was week one this year again

659
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: coming off the injury, I would be say, like I

660
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: would want to see it first. I'm not even saying

661
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: not to start him. I'm just saying to dial back

662
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: expectations maybe a little bit. Is kind of the main

663
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make here, because again, like I

664
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: do think, like buying March, you have to start him

665
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: because even a lot of the names that you might

666
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: have drafted later than him that I filled in admirably,

667
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: like and a mechag Buka is not going to be

668
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: an option right. So like those names that could have

669
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: maybe leap frogged him in how you rank him this

670
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: week are not really on the field. So I'm not

671
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: suggesting that you should be sitting or shi Rice. I

672
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: just don't want everybody to go in and say, like, oh,

673
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: we're going to see like top ten production right away.

674
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: That's just not the way I'm looking at it. I

675
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: want to see it. I want to see the rust

676
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: and just coming back from everything because it's a long

677
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: layoff and the offense has been working really well. I

678
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: think fits his point about how his role is kind

679
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: of specialized compared to some of these other guys. Is

680
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: a good one in terms of, like, it's not going

681
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: to rock the boat on the offense too much, right,

682
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: It's just going to be more additive than like, you know,

683
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: messing up the juju. No, no pun intended, but just

684
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: what everybody else is doing in this receiving room. Again,

685
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: just wide receiver nine feels feels strong to me. But

686
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: again there's there's not a lot of names afterwards that

687
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: you can make a strong case for moving up. So

688
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: I do get why he's ultimately in that range. We'll

689
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: see how it ends up playing out. Let's go to

690
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: the next game here. Eagles at Vikings Phillies. Offensive struggles

691
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: continued last Thursday against the Giants. What can they do

692
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: debro against Brian Flores and the Vikings defense?

693
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: I mean, man, I think the thing they should be

694
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: doing is running the ball now. I know that, you

695
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: know that's not gonna make the receivers happy. And there's

696
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: been all this. You know, the Eagles are always in

697
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: the press about aj Brown and dude, they could ever

698
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: have an OC for two seasons in a row, we

699
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: would see better things out of the Eagles. I think

700
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: that's one of the storylines that kind of gets buried

701
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: with all this. It's like all the drama about them

702
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: not throwing the ball or Jalen Hurts, dude, Like, how

703
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: easy do we think it is for a team to

704
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: turn over four ocs and four years like that? That's

705
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: not easy for anybody, for quarterbacks, for anybody, like for

706
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: offensive continuity. So I think they're going to run the

707
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: ball and have success doing it. You can run on

708
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: the Vikings ninth most rushing yards allowed per game, and

709
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: the thing that is really going to help them because

710
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: their offensive line has not played up to previous year expectations.

711
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: For the Eagles, They're given up the fifth most yards

712
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 3: before contact per attempt, which is really going to help

713
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Saquan and give them some room to run. So I

714
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: think we're going to see a lot of running for

715
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: the Eagles and a lot of Dallas Goddard. Dude. He's

716
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: been getting a lot of targets. And this is a

717
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: really good matchup. I mean, Minnesota runs too high at

718
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: the highest rate in the NFL. Dallas Goddard versus too

719
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: high Dude. He's been getting elite usage twenty three percent

720
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: target share to Pitt Fitzy's point of first reach here

721
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: twenty six point one percent first reach here and Minnesota's

722
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: giving up the tenth most schedule adjusted fantasy points per

723
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: game to tight end. So big game for Dallas, godter

724
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: resurgent game probably for Sakuon Barkley, AJ Brown and Davonte Smith.

725
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: You probably feel like you've been feeling the entire part

726
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: of the season, and do I start them or do

727
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: I not? I don't know what the freaking do with them.

728
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: If I sit them, I'm probably gonna get burned by it.

729
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: So I'm probably playing him as a flex play.

730
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to push back a little bit on the

731
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: constantly changing offensive coordinator stuff for the Eagles, just because

732
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: unless your head coach is the offensive play caller, that's everybody.

733
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: There are not off every team four oh season, four years,

734
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: four and four years, but you do not last one zero.

735
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: There are only two offensive coordinators. There are two play

736
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: callers in the NFL that aren't head coaches that have

737
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: even been with their team since twenty twenty three. This

738
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: is like you get maybe two years and either you're

739
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: not good enough and you get replaced, or you're good

740
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: enough and you get hired away to be someone's head coach.

741
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: So the guys that have offensive play calling head coaches,

742
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: they of course have that type of continuity because are

743
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: right head coaches, they're not getting coached.

744
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: But any team that doesn't have.

745
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: A play calling head coach, like four or four years

746
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: is extreme, but it is like it is a year

747
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: to year. Maybe you get a second year, that's it.

748
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Joe Brady and Todd Munkin are the only two non

749
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: head coaches who are offensive play callers who have been

750
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: with their team since even twenty twenty three.

751
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: Everybody else is in year one or two. So like

752
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: every quarterback.

753
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Who's head coach is not an offensive play caller is

754
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: dealing with at least some level of turnover.

755
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: There. Again, four and four is a lot.

756
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to also to that point, isn't that

757
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: shouldn't be that a factor about you know, quarterback play

758
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 3: Ebben flowing over multiple seasons. Two and the other thing

759
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: I'll push back a little bit on a worm is

760
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: the other thing about the Eagles play callers. It's been

761
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: very hit or miss. Shane steiking good, Brian Johnson terrible, okay,

762
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore really good, Kevin Batullo horrible. So it's been

763
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: not just the fact that the turnover it's been. Oh

764
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: he's really really freaking good. Dear lord, what are you doing?

765
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 3: Oh he's really really good. Have you ever called plays

766
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: or seen an NFL offense run ever? Ever?

767
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: So it has been a real roller coach, that's sure.

768
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to correct myself because I

769
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: said it was just Brady and Monk and there is

770
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: a third because I was just looking at AFC. Drew

771
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Petsing has also since twenty twenty. He's also since twenty

772
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: twenty three. So there are three names whose head coaches

773
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: are not offensive play callers who have been there, who

774
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: are even just in year three, you know.

775
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: Let alone anything beyond that.

776
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: And there's nobody with the year four beyond who's not

777
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: the head coach amongst the play callers. Sorry, there's a

778
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: bit of a detour there. Fits What do you expect

779
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: out of the Eagles against the aggressive defense?

780
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what's funny about Kevin Petulo's offense? And

781
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: I'm sorry Eagles fans, I know none of this is

782
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: very funny to you. Our buddies k lest In Iraq,

783
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: regulars on the Fantasy Pros discord, who, Dee Bro and

784
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: I have become good friends with those poor dudes have

785
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: to be.

786
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: Besides themselves these days.

787
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: But what's sort of humorous is that Petula's offense has

788
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: been terrible for all the principles involved, except for Dallas Goddard,

789
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: who suddenly morphed into Tony Gonzales and I stumbled into

790
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: Goddard in a couple of drafts, and it has been

791
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: like finding one hundred dollars bill on the sidewalk. And

792
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 4: I hope I've distracted everyone with this little dietribe about

793
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: Dallas Goddard, because ultimately I have no idea what to

794
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: expect to the Eagles offense against Brian Flora's defense this

795
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: weekend in Minnesota, and I was just trying to fill

796
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: time rather than throw my hands up in the air.

797
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: Debro.

798
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: I was asking Fits and Jake a little bit yesterday

799
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts and where you'd want to rank him

800
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: in a matchup like this, and sort of the consensus

801
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: from that conversation was, you know, they're more worried about

802
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: the less experienced quarterbacks going up against a hyper aggressive

803
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: defense like Flores. Is where are you ranking Hurts? Are

804
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: you dialing back your expectations for him at all?

805
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: In this matchup.

806
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm not only because the time you do that, and

807
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 3: and the fact that you can run on the vikings

808
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, he's going to bury you with

809
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: two rushing touchdowns. So you can't. Yeah, you can't push

810
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: him outside the top five like I've got him a

811
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: QB four. I just settled between he's going to be

812
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: QB three QB four like, just with the fact that

813
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 3: he could score two rushing touchdowns any week.

814
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to Panthers at Jets. The initial question I

815
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: had in here was about Rico Daaldell. I still want

816
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: to ask about him, but you know, I was putting

817
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: together earlier in the week, you know, kind of more

818
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: unclear about what was going on with Chewba Hubbard. So

819
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: all's kind of dial back the question from a macro

820
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: level view, what do you expect to workload and usage

821
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: to look like fits in this backfield in this matchup

822
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: against the Jets.

823
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be a Rico takeover.

824
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: He's been terrific the last two weeks, but he had

825
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: really favorable matchups against the Dolphins and Cowboys, and there's

826
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: just there's no way the Panthers are kicking Chewba Hubbard

827
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 4: to the curb after giving him that big contract extension

828
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: in the offseason and some of it.

829
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 5: Dave Kanellis has been.

830
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: Pretty coy about how he's going to use these guys,

831
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: but he has said that he's going to use both guys,

832
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: so I expect it to be a split backfield right now.

833
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 4: I've got Rico tentatively ranked RB twenty for this week

834
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: and Chuba RB twenty nine collectively. That's probably a little

835
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: too high for both guys, so I might have to

836
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: reevaluate that a little bit. But I think Rico is

837
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: more in still startable territory in Cuba's kind of fringy

838
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: fantasy process.

839
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: And are they playing tool It gives Shubahbriday sixty eight

840
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: percent chance to play it. That's just through Thursday practice reports,

841
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: so that might look even stronger after we see whatever

842
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: happens here on Friday, so keep an eye on that,

843
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: but we are anticipating him playing as of the Thursday

844
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: practice support Debro, So what do you think this usage

845
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: is going to look like in the backfield? I mean, Dabdell,

846
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: he is coming off of an insane two game stretch

847
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: right so like it feels like like if it was

848
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: just one game, I'd be more like, okay, there is

849
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: a fluke, but like back to back. I know it

850
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: was against you know, very take advantage of a bull

851
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: run defenses. I know that's not really a phrase, but

852
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: he still did what you should do against those those

853
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: types of run defenses and looked amazing. So the fact

854
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: that his back to back is why I think I

855
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: and others are like even more like, okay, like, are

856
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: they really gonna put this you know, toothpaste back in

857
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: the tube here?

858
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it's gonna be a mess. I was

859
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: fighting with Joey on shows earlier this week about like

860
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: he was all in on Rico, and I was like, man,

861
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: I just I think tube is not gonna go away, dude, Like,

862
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: I think Rico is going to be the leader of

863
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: the backfield this week. Part of that's Chewba Hubbard's health.

864
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: Part of it is the fact that and I'm not

865
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: giving Rico like he has the ability he could take

866
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: over the backfield, but he's gonna have to continue to

867
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: outplay Chewba Hubbard, which honestly, this year, I don't know

868
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: if Tuba has been dealing with an injury the entirety

869
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: of the season or what's been going on. But like

870
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: on the early downs, he's not been anywhere close to

871
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: the player that he was last year. Like, if I

872
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: were to ask you, guys, how many tackles do you

873
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: think Chewba Hubbard has broken? Fits on fifty three carries,

874
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: how many tackles do you think Chuba Hubbard has broken?

875
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: And how many explosive runs do you think he has

876
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: this season?

877
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: Fifty three carries, five tackles, two explosives.

878
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: So for everybody out there, if our answers are anything

879
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: above zero for both of these categories, we're all wrong.

880
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: He has zero explosive runs. He has not broken a

881
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: single tackle, And I think that ineffectiveness to this point

882
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: of the season. And I get it's only fifty three carries,

883
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: it's a decent sized sample, like even like a decent workload.

884
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: You're talking about three four games for a running back

885
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: in a lot of different sense, Like that's not great.

886
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: So like with that added on top of what Rico

887
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: has done in the last two weeks, I think he

888
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: gives Rico daubtle or runway to take over the backfield.

889
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: Is that gonna happen this week. No, it's probably gonna

890
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: be fifty to fifty maybe sixty forty usage for Rico.

891
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: I think he might be the passing down back to

892
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: over chewba Hubbard. So both these guys, like I'm with

893
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: FITZI I think Rico's like a low end RB two,

894
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: Hubbard's like an RB three flex play. And with versus

895
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: most different options, you're probably setting Hubbard depending on what

896
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: your roster looks like.

897
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I actually said this, but Rico just

898
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: so everybody knows. And the consensus rankings is RB fourteen

899
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: in half feup.

900
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: It's too high. That's too aggressive man, not of Hubbard's active.

901
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: I can't do that.

902
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah Hubbard. Oh, he's down at RB forty three. I

903
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: think that's probably because some people don't have it.

904
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's not gonna play.

905
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,440
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917
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: slate here, Patriots at Titans, Deeve Ro. I'll start with

918
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: you on this one. Rank Tony Pollard, Romandre Stevenson, and

919
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: Trevion Henderson against each other this week. Yes, I know

920
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: how gross that is of what I am asking, but

921
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: they're all kind of in a similar range, so I

922
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: wanted to put the three of them kind of head

923
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: to head to head. Rank Stevenson, Pollard, and Henderson.

924
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put both the New England Backs at the

925
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: top of the mountain here. I'm gonna go and Andre Trevion.

926
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: Watch from Andre fumble again and this looks terrible, but

927
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm putting Ramandre because dude, Mike Rabel does not want

928
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: to give Trevon Henderson the work. He just doesn't like

929
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: vermondra could put the ball on the turf, and then

930
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: you see Vrabel out there in the media talking about, well,

931
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: it's not really Romandre's fault for the fumbles, it's kind

932
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 3: of a whole team thing. Well not really, but okay, Mike,

933
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: we'll go with that. So I think given the matchup,

934
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: Tennessee can't stop the run. I think New England could

935
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: run it down their throat if they want to. So

936
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: Ramandre's won Trevion's two. I'm actually going to put Taj

937
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: Spears into this conversation at three instead of twenty Pollard

938
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: because the matchup on the ground is horrible for the

939
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans this week. I think they're gonna be playing

940
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: from behind. Taj Spears actually took over the passing down

941
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: role in the offense last week, and it's actually a

942
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: pretty decent matchup for receiving backs. So I think, look,

943
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: I'm not telling people if you got Pollard you're playing

944
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 3: Spears over him. You probably don't have both of those,

945
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: but I think Spears is a decent flex option PPR

946
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: leagues this week. So Pollard unfortunately is fourth here.

947
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Stevenson, Pollard, and Henderson are all ranked between RB twenty

948
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: six and RB thirty two, which is why I kept

949
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: them together. Spears is down at RB thirty nine, But

950
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: that's interesting that you would throw him up there, even

951
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: ahead of Pollard.

952
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: Fits What do you think about that?

953
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Would you still go those those three names I gave

954
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: as the top three, or would you put Spears ahead

955
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: of Pollard.

956
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: I've got Spears last of all these guys as of

957
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 4: right now. I'm not sure if that's right. Right now,

958
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: I've got Rimandra RB twenty seven, Pollard RB thirty, Henderson

959
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: RB thirty one. I'm probably gonna flip flop Henderson and Pollard. Obviously,

960
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: role is a question with all of these guys. And

961
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: if you play Remondre, there is the fear that he's

962
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 4: won fumble away from a benching. And yet he's facing

963
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: a Titans defense that has allowed a league high nine

964
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: touchdown runs to running backs and is giving up four

965
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: point seven yards per carry to running backs and ranks

966
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: twenty seventh and dvoa against the run. So the matchup

967
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 4: is good man Henderson. It's not so much the usage.

968
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: Well it's that too, but man, when you give him

969
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: the ball, I wish they weren't slamming him up the

970
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: middle so much, and that next gen chart of his

971
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: usage that was making the rounds on Twitter this week,

972
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 4: where it's just all between the tackles.

973
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 5: This guy's so good in space.

974
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 4: I wish they would just try to use him wide

975
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: and on some outside stuff. So Yeahmanderey is probably the

976
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: guy I feel most comfortable with this week.

977
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 3: Man.

978
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he even I know it's a good matchup,

979
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: but like, even if we were to concede that, like

980
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: Remondre will be the lead back for the Patriots this week,

981
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: because that's what it's been like. He's only gotten over

982
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: five Fantasy points and half VPR scoring twice this season.

983
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: It just like it feels like the floor is not

984
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: very high, and I'm also not even really sure what

985
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: the ceiling is given what we've seen out of him

986
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, unless he has a week where

987
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: he gets two touchdowns like he did in Week five,

988
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: but even then he only had fourteen rushing yards, so

989
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: it didn't you know, it only led to him being

990
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: RB fifteen on the on the week. You know that

991
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Week two game against Miami, which was the best run,

992
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, the best the matchup he's had this year

993
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: is the time where he had a big game, but

994
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: even then it wasn't on the ground. It was you know,

995
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: because he had eighty eight yards through the air. So yeah,

996
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: just I mean it's it's gross, but of course all

997
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: these names are gross. That's why I put him together,

998
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: So it's not It's not a group of names that

999
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: I want to be really particularly involved in if I

1000
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: can help it at all, and it you know, it

1001
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: feels like you guys largely agree with that.

1002
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I think Remdra can get it done.

1003
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: It's just a matchup talked about Tennessee. Can't stop anybody,

1004
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: I think. And the other thing about it is the

1005
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: Patriots are going to play with the lead in this game.

1006
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: Ye Like, I don't think they're gonna play with their food.

1007
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna sit here and put the gas

1008
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: down and absolute steamroll the Titans this week, or they should.

1009
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: So you gonna want to yeah, well, and to that point,

1010
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see a lot of fourth quarter runs,

1011
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: like whether it's Remandre or whether it's Henderson salting away

1012
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: the clock and stuff like that. So he can pile

1013
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: up the volume.

1014
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: Let's go to the late afternoon slate here, Giants at Broncos.

1015
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: JK Dobbins and Campskataboo are back to back in our

1016
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: staff running back rankings for Week seven. Make the case

1017
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: for one or the other in this matchup, fits, I

1018
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: will start with you, And by the way, the rankings

1019
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: in consensus rankings, Campskataboo is RB seventeen, JK Dobbins RB eighteen,

1020
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: So that's the range we're in.

1021
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no issues with Dobbins. He's averaging fifteen

1022
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: to two point two carries and seventy three point seven

1023
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: rushing yards a game four point nine yards per carry.

1024
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: Great matchup against the Giants Rundy that ranks thirty first

1025
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: in DVOA. I've already bet the under, excuse me, the

1026
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: over on fifty seven and a half rushing yards for Dobbins.

1027
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: But I have Skataboo ranked RB thirteen Dobbins RB eighteen.

1028
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: Skataboo's just special man, and what choice do the Giants

1029
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: have but to lean on him hard this week? When

1030
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 4: you've got a rookie quarterback going up against the Denver

1031
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 4: Rundy or the Denver pass defense with Jackson Dart's best

1032
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: receiver being Wandel Robinson, you know Skataboo is getting at

1033
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: least twenty touches this week, and he catches passes four

1034
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 4: catches a game over the last four weeks. Dobbins this

1035
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: five catches in five games.

1036
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: What do you think, Debra, Yeah, I mean I'm taking

1037
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Dobbins in this only because the rushing matchup is so

1038
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: freaking good. I've got him at RB fifteen. I've got

1039
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: Skataboo at RB nineteen. But the point of this is, like,

1040
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 3: I'm not dropping Skataboo too far because of the past

1041
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: game utility. I just worry about how well and effective

1042
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: the Giants are going to be able to move the

1043
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: ball just in general in this game. Considering how good

1044
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: the Broncos defense is. I think Scataboo is still going

1045
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: to flirt with like twenty plus opportunities in this game.

1046
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know if he's going to be able

1047
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: to get into get into the end zone in this one.

1048
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: So Dobbins has been very, very one dimensional. But this

1049
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: is a good matchup for you know, if he's making

1050
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: all of his fantasy production on the early downs because

1051
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: he's not getting any pass game utility he's not, this

1052
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: is a good game for him to be able to

1053
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: do that considering the Giants, or give them the eleventh

1054
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: most rushing yards and they're not able to tack any

1055
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: but tackle anybody. They got the fifth highest missed tackle rate,

1056
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: So Dobbins should be able to, you know, crack one

1057
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: hundred rushing yards and get into the end zone at

1058
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: least once in this game.

1059
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: Sorry, where did you say you have them ranked? Specifically?

1060
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Dobbins RB fifteen, Cam Scattaboo RB nineteen.

1061
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so both in the teams, but a few spots

1062
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: higher on Dobbins.

1063
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: What's the spread in this game?

1064
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up here Hardrock that has it as

1065
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: seven points Denvers Lang. Okay, So that, I mean would

1066
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: suggest that they're going to have a lead.

1067
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: I think Denver can cover the hint and Giants have

1068
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: been really feisty.

1069
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: Run Dobbins. Yeah, what do you think about that? Line?

1070
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: Fits seven points for Denver.

1071
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 5: Reluctant to touch it.

1072
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: I kind of think I'm in a couple pools where

1073
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 4: I'm forced to pick games against the spread.

1074
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 5: I think I've Denver Okay.

1075
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to Colts at Chargers.

1076
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: Do you expect Kamani Videll to be the clear RB?

1077
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: One in Los Angeles again this week, or would the

1078
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: rules look different with him and Hassad Haskins against the Colts? Deibro,

1079
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: How confident are you that what we saw in week

1080
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: six will be what we see in week seven? Or

1081
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: is this going to be a week to week matchup

1082
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: dependent usage situation?

1083
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 3: This Kamani by L's backfield. I'm not worried about it. All.

1084
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: The Hussan Haskins stuff was a lot of just narrative

1085
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: street Oh it's Harbaugh's guy, blah blah blah bla. Like

1086
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: Kamani played freaking sixty seven percent of the snaps, he

1087
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: got almost all the red zone work, also had a

1088
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 3: forty three percent route share. The matchup is good versus Indy,

1089
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: Like they're giving up the six highest yards after contact

1090
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: per attempt excuse me, yards before contact per attempt and

1091
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: the fifth highest of rushing success rated his own run.

1092
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: So I mean, Kamani, I've got him ranked. Where are

1093
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: you at Kamani ball RB seventeen this week? So yeah,

1094
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: I think it's his backfield still, do you?

1095
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there was some reporting about Haskins being the starter.

1096
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: Wasn't just like nar.

1097
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also got the same reporting that day, Flowers

1098
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: is gonna be limited. Last week insiders.

1099
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: Account it wasn't accurate for you, but it was.

1100
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1101
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: I was like to say, it's reporting not accurate, but

1102
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: they was reporting fits.

1103
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: What do you think is Videll? Is this just his

1104
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: backfield and it's as simple as that?

1105
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: Or do you see that there?

1106
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Do you see a world where there is a different

1107
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: usage here week to week and it gets to be

1108
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: frustrating for managers.

1109
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 5: I think it's more the same.

1110
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: Fidel just has the more versatile, well rounded skill set,

1111
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: and I think he's just the better player. If you

1112
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 4: have to start Haskins, you're basically just praying that they

1113
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: have one or two goal line situations. In Haskins, it's

1114
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: the guy who's in there.

1115
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: We went really quick on that game.

1116
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: So let me ask you guys about this spread to

1117
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: Chargers minus two at home?

1118
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

1119
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: Hi?

1120
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: Either of you?

1121
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: I think the Colts win this game.

1122
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: I do not touching it.

1123
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm not touching. I'm not touching. If I had to

1124
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: pick one, then I would say the Colts win. But

1125
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to bet.

1126
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: At What about the total? I'm not sure what it

1127
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 2: is it's sloading for me here, my internet's running slowed.

1128
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Sorry for that.

1129
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: Actually, I'll take the over on it. I'm guessing it's

1130
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: probably okay and a half. Yeah, that's I was gonna

1131
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: guess forty seven and a half. Yeah, like, I'll take

1132
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: the over. I think both the teams can put up

1133
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: points here.

1134
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: Do you like the over?

1135
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 5: HiT's yeah?

1136
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: I agree?

1137
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,239
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1138
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000
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1153
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: at Cardinals fits. I'll start with you here. What did

1154
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: you think of Matthew Golden's usage last week as a

1155
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: rookie coming off the bye week. That's kind of a

1156
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: narrative thing that we like to look at, you know,

1157
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: year over year as these rookies coming off their by

1158
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: What do you think of his usage? Are you interested

1159
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: in starting him against Arizona this week?

1160
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: It was nice to see his snapchair tick up a

1161
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: little bit. It was at sixty nine percent last week.

1162
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: It was at fifty nine percent in Green Bay's last

1163
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: game before the bye. Still not full time though, and

1164
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 4: Jordan Love is inevitably going to spread the ball around,

1165
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 4: and maybe there's an outside chance Christian Watson comes back

1166
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: this week. Probably not, but he has been practicing on

1167
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: a limited basis. Golden still only had five targets last week,

1168
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 4: and he's averaging three point eight targets a game.

1169
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 5: The bright side, though, he's been really efficient with the targets.

1170
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: He's aftering fifteen point one yards per catch, eleven point

1171
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: two yards per target, one point seven eight yards per run.

1172
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 4: Those are good numbers. So I think he's a playable

1173
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 4: wide receiver three.

1174
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 5: But it could be Boombost.

1175
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: Deebra how do you see it with you know, with

1176
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: what we saw with Golden. I mean it was the

1177
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: most Fantasy points he scored this season. That's, you know,

1178
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: not that high a bar to clear, given how his

1179
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: first month went.

1180
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: But coming out of the bye, would you think.

1181
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's going to be just still

1182
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: the Packers with their wide receiver by committee approach, and

1183
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: it's going to get even muddier when Watson gets on

1184
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: the field. But I think it's gonna be a good

1185
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: matchup for Golden this week. I mean, he's been their

1186
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: guy since becoming a full time player. Well I say

1187
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: a full time player like last week, full time in

1188
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: the in the Green Bay passing attack outside of like

1189
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs and Tucker Craft, means he get a sixty

1190
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: two percent route chaer look he got last week, but

1191
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: he's been there, got their go to against Too High

1192
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: And that's what I wanted to lean on for Golden

1193
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 3: this week. Arizona's seventh highest too High rate Golden since

1194
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: Week four as a twenty seven percent target per route

1195
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 3: run rate four point one yards per route run against

1196
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: too High. So I think Golden's gonna have a good day.

1197
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: Like I mean, right now, hard Rock bet has his

1198
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: receiving yardage line at fifty six and a half. Kind

1199
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: of feeling the over boys.

1200
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: Where is he ranked for you? D He's He's thirty

1201
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: three in consensus. Is that too high? Too low?

1202
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm pretty close to consensus. Like I have him as

1203
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: a wide receiver three. I've got him at wide receiver

1204
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: thirty right now, like him and Romeo Dobbs right next

1205
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 3: to each other, Wide receiver twenty nine, Wide receiver thirty.

1206
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: Both are wide receiver threes.

1207
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: This week fits some of the names that Golden is around,

1208
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, Cooper Cupp, Sterling Shepherd, Trey Tucker, Mike Evans,

1209
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: any of those names, Like, does that feel like the

1210
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: right range?

1211
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got him wide receiver thirty four, so it

1212
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: does feel like the right neighborhood.

1213
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Okay, last game in the late afternoon slate here commanders

1214
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: at Cowboys.

1215
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 6: Now.

1216
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: Initially when I put this together, it seems based.

1217
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: On reporting, Terry McLaurin will be back.

1218
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: I haven't checked this morning if there's been any additional updates,

1219
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: but obviously he didn't. He was downgraded to not participating

1220
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: in practice on Thursday, so that looks worse. I was

1221
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: originally gonna ask you guys to predict the stat line

1222
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: for both CD lam and Terry McLaurin, just kind of

1223
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: one receiver on either side returning this game. Let's focus

1224
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: on Lamb for now, Divra, what do you expect out

1225
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: of CD Lamb in his return to the field, because

1226
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: he's telling us that he's you know, full go, no limitations,

1227
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: he's ready to rock.

1228
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: You're gonna see normal CD Lamb usage like he's probably

1229
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: gonna get nine plus targets, he's probably gonna flirt with

1230
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: eighty plus receiving yards and let's go. So and I'm

1231
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: with you on that warm Micha with McLaurin. I don't

1232
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: think we see McLaurin this week, Like midweek down grade.

1233
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 3: He goes from limited to d MP on Thursday. It's

1234
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: it's not good man. I don't think you rush this

1235
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: guy back. I think he's out this week.

1236
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: So then let me ask you this, Diva.

1237
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: Before I tost to Fitz predicted predictive stat line for

1238
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and now he's got his own injury question mark.

1239
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: But let's assume he plays for the sake of this argument,

1240
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: what would you predict his stat line to look like

1241
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: in a very enticing matchup with McLaurin.

1242
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: Not likely not in the field.

1243
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean it would all assuming Deebo is a full

1244
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: go and he's gonna have his normal effectiveness because he's

1245
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: also dealing with his own things with that's a heel injury,

1246
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: and he's got back to back DMPs. But I think

1247
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: he definitely plays. I think he's gonna get a crapped

1248
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 3: on a usage. Dallas's secondary is not good. They're too

1249
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 3: high heavy, so the cover structure works out well for Debo.

1250
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 3: I think you're probably gonna see like probably one to

1251
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: two carries, probably in the teens for rushing yards. He

1252
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: probably hits like eighty seventy to eighty receiving arts, gets

1253
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: in the end zone, flirts of wide receiver one value.

1254
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: If he were to not play, because again, like he

1255
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: didn't practice Thursday either, would you guys knock down Jayden Daniels,

1256
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: who's currently consensus QB one for the week in ECR.

1257
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Now that matchups awesome, and obviously he can run to

1258
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: account for some of those fantasy points, But if he's

1259
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: missing both McLaurin and Samuel Fits, would you have would

1260
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: you knock down Daniels.

1261
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: I'm only knocking him down from QB one where I

1262
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: have him right now, to QB two behind Patrick Mahomes.

1263
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I have him ranked two. I'm not

1264
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: with ECR with him at one. I got my homes

1265
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: at one.

1266
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: So, Fitz, what do you think about Ceedee Lamb's return,

1267
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: just in general, like what that stat line is going

1268
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: to look like, and then also assuming he plays, which

1269
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: is still questionable with Deebo Samuelbo, do you think his

1270
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: stat line will look like?

1271
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 4: Probably like seven seventy for Deebo, seven for seventy maybe

1272
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: a touchdown, and for Lamb, I'm like maybe six for

1273
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: eighty and a touchdown. I'm excited about this game, though

1274
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 4: it's gotten Vegas total of I believe fifty four and

1275
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 4: a half. Commanders Cowboys is one of the funnest games

1276
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: on a very fun slay.

1277
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: It to this point, we didn't talk about him bet

1278
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: the Art's overs. This is a really good matchup for

1279
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: Ertz and if Deebo's banged up, mclaurin's out. I know

1280
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: our Ertz went in part of this, but Artz is

1281
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: going to be heavily targeted. He needs to be a

1282
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 3: tight end one and ranks this week.

1283
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: Are you guys knocking Pickens at all? He's been so

1284
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: good with Lamb out, but with lamb returning.

1285
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: No, he's he's gonna be the t Higgins to uh

1286
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 3: ceed Lambs d more Chase Man, He's still gonna be

1287
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 3: freaking good.

1288
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: It a little bit for me. He's more of a

1289
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: low end wide receiver one. I think, Yeah, it.

1290
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: Is fifty four and a half fis is that the

1291
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: highest of the year? I can't, like, I don't. I

1292
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: don't even think Raven's.

1293
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: Bills back total is that high?

1294
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: Wow?

1295
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: Fifty four and a half HARDI wow, I don't. I

1296
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: don't recall when that was higher. If there was, I'm forgetting.

1297
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: No, I think like one of the Lions games got

1298
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 3: into the fifty two's and stuff like that. I haven't

1299
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: seen fifty four and nine. I mean, is there saying

1300
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: it's wrong?

1301
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: Is there a more exciting like matchup just in terms

1302
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: of like what Vegas is saying than fifty four and

1303
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: a half total and it's minus one?

1304
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: Is the spread?

1305
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: Like that's that combo is just so is so exciting?

1306
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for uh.

1307
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: I don't have defense, don't care.

1308
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're we're we're all in on it.

1309
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: So let's go to Sunday Night football.

1310
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 5: Here.

1311
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Falcons at forty nine ers besides the big obvious four

1312
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: B Jean McCaffrey Kittle, who.

1313
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: Looks like he's returning in London.

1314
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: Which player in this game at any position do you

1315
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: most want to start this week?

1316
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: Fits, I'll start with you.

1317
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: I guess Kendrick Bourne, just because he's had such a

1318
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 4: nice chemistry with Mac Jones. But the return of George

1319
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: Kittle complicates the target outlook for Bourne. And maybe there's

1320
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: stun outside chance that Ricky Pearsol comes back. Probably not,

1321
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 4: but if he did, it would be hard to play Bourne.

1322
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: Falcons pass defense is allowing one hundred and forty passing

1323
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: yards a game. Atlanta has been really tough against the pass,

1324
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: so I don't really want to play mac Jones.

1325
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 5: I guess you could play Kyle Pitts.

1326
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 4: I've rememb ranked as like a high end wide tight

1327
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 4: end two, and maybe could play Tyler Algier against a

1328
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 4: middling banged up forty nine or defense. Even with Bijon around,

1329
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 4: Algier's gotten double digit carries in four of Atlanta's five

1330
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: games this year.

1331
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: I like the way you phrased it on Pits. I

1332
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: guess you could play Kyle Pitts.

1333
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: That feels as bad as strongly as you can you

1334
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: can be on Pits at this point. De Roy, Yeah,

1335
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: like b jeon mc afri kit online, and they're all

1336
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: top five options at their position. Besides them, who are

1337
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 1: you interested in starting in in this game?

1338
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: So I thought about the Kendrick Borne angle fits. He's

1339
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: not wrong with that. He's definitely the one that I

1340
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 3: think is low hanging fruit and who should lead this conversation?

1341
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: But I'll go Tyler ol Year. I mean, Dude, his

1342
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: splits and I think there's a real chance that the

1343
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: Falcons win this game. But that's what you're telling yourself

1344
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: when you flex Tyler ol Year because his splits and

1345
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: wins and losses have been monstrous, and the Falcons wins.

1346
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: He's getting fourteen point six touches, he's got fifty three

1347
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: or fifty six point three total yards per game, and

1348
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: three touchdowns in those three games two losses. Dude is

1349
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: averaging six touches and fourteen total scoreless yards per game

1350
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: and the matchup like fits alluded to her you can

1351
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: run on the forty nine ers. They're giving up the

1352
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: six highest missed tackle rate, tenth most yards after contact

1353
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: pert tempt Like, so Tyler Alsier is the guy. Like look,

1354
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: runner back options are nasty this week, Like outside of

1355
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: like the top guys, you're picking between, I don't know

1356
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 3: who I'm going to play win blah blah, Like Tyler

1357
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: al Year is definitely worth the flex this week, and

1358
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: some people in deeper leagues could be like crap, am

1359
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: I having to play this dude in my RB two spot?

1360
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: But in their wins, that's what he's producing.

1361
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised that he's ranked RB forty in

1362
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: consensus this week. I thought he'd be in the thirties.

1363
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: It's not that it's that far off, but I thought

1364
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: he'd be a little bit higher. I mean especially just

1365
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: think about like San Francisco, Like Deeber, what do you

1366
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: think about this defense, like with Fred Warner now out

1367
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: for the season, Like what kind of resistance they're going

1368
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: to give? I mean, I feel like the Falcons can

1369
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: run in this game, and they're going to run with

1370
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: more than just Bijon, even as good as Bijon is,

1371
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: Like I am starting out. Actually in a league I

1372
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of injuries, I am starting Algier as

1373
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 1: a flex in the league where I am also starting

1374
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: Bijon I have.

1375
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have them both in my lineup in one

1376
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: of my leagues this week.

1377
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: Well, like straight straight up question here, guys, who do

1378
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: you feel better about playing Tyre Algier or freaking Isaiah Pacheco.

1379
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, yeah.

1380
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 4: We've got Pachecko ranked higher, but it's a good point.

1381
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: Check goes up at RB twenty eight, by the way,

1382
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: so I actually.

1383
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: He does not want to throw the ball on an

1384
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: offense that's getting their wide receiver one back. Like, yeah,

1385
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, man.

1386
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Monday night football another doubleheader. I

1387
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: will be happy when these are done. First came in

1388
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 1: the doubleheader Buccketeers at Lions. What are you guys doing

1389
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay receiving room after the latest injury

1390
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: to that room? In this one of course, coming to

1391
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: a mecca Agbuca Debro, what are you doing with.

1392
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: This this group of pass catchers?

1393
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: I mean, good lord man, it's a mess because we

1394
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: don't know if Mike Evans is gonna play. I kind

1395
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: of lean that he's gonna be out. But I mean

1396
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: with Chris God went out a Mecca, Buka's not gonna

1397
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: play your Shepherd's gonna be a full time receiver. Tess

1398
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: Johnson's probably gonna be a full I mean he's gonna

1399
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: be a full time receiver. Mike Evans is just a

1400
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: question of like does Cameron Johnson like enter the fray.

1401
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: So if you got Mike Evans, you're probably waiting, like

1402
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: you need to or mark Cameron Johnson on the waiver

1403
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: wire because if Evans is out, that's probably your only

1404
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: desperation play to back him up this week. But like

1405
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: these guys are low end flex plays. Like Shepherd's gonna

1406
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: do what he's done, but like he's not getting even

1407
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: like when they've had guys missing, he doesn't get a

1408
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: high end percentage of the target share. I if I'm

1409
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: going with anybody out of this passing attack with the

1410
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: latest injuries, it's probably Kadott and only because we've seen

1411
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: his usage bump over the last two games. He's gotten

1412
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: actually way more usage nineteen percent target share. Detroit has

1413
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: been a little bit more vulnerable to tight end. So

1414
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: I'd say if I'm gonna bump anybody up. It's probably

1415
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: kad Ott and a lot of these guys. I don't

1416
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: want to play them, but you might get stuck playing them.

1417
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: Depends depending on if you're waiting for Mike Evans or

1418
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: other flex options this week.

1419
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: Would you rather Deebro just start one of the guys

1420
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: you already have on your bench on Sunday or would

1421
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: you rather try and get a backup option that who's

1422
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: playing on Monday to be a you know, an emergency

1423
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: situation for you if if Mike Evans doesn't play, I.

1424
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: Mean, dude, if you got to take it down. If

1425
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: you have Mike Evans on your team, you got to

1426
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: take it down to the wire because if he does play,

1427
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: the match up, the total all that kind of stuff

1428
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: lines up. You got to think he's close to full

1429
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: time player, or at least he's on the field when

1430
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 3: they're throwing the ball. So I would hold out hope again,

1431
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: like drop your kicker, pick up Cameron Johnson, like cause

1432
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: he's the guy that probably is the only one left

1433
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 3: on waivers at this point. But yeah, like if you

1434
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: got Evans, you got to take it down to the

1435
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 3: wire because you're not going to sit him and then

1436
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 3: he goes off and he has like one hundred receiving

1437
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: yards and a touchdown or two and you're hating life.

1438
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: Fitz, what are you doing with this receiving room? I

1439
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: feel like Abuka is like the for me.

1440
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of injuries, and there

1441
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: have been more impactful injuries, but it's the one that

1442
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: was the most emotionally, like, come on another one, Like

1443
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: it was crushing to see Iguka get hurt and he's

1444
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: been so fun and exciting as a rookie, and you know,

1445
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: I just it was it hurt my heart to see

1446
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: him get hurt and uh, and now it makes it

1447
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: really challenging in this receiving room.

1448
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: Hopefully we have definitive news Mike Evans by Sunday and

1449
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: lineup block time. If Evans plays, I'm starting Evans and

1450
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: doing my best to avoid everyone else. I don't want

1451
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 4: to guess how targets are going to be split between Sterling, Shepherd,

1452
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 4: Tez Johnson, Cameron Johnson, Kate Otton. If Evans is out,

1453
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: Aughton is the guy I'm most interested in, because whenever

1454
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 4: the Tampa Bay receiving course really thinned out, Oton usually

1455
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 4: gets a usage spike and on the bright side, if

1456
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 4: you do have to play any of these peripheral guys,

1457
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: the Lions secondary is an absolute mess right now. Cornerbacks

1458
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 4: Terry and Arnold and Dj Reed are probably both going

1459
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 4: to be out. Safety Brian Branch suspended for slugging Juju

1460
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 4: Smith Schuster in the moments after that line's Chiefs game

1461
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: last week. Safety Kirby Joseph banged up, might not play.

1462
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 4: So if you have to play any of the other

1463
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 4: Buccaneers pass catchers, maybe they can take advantage of easier

1464
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: coverage matchups. Then they normally get with a fully healthy,

1465
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: unsuspended Lions secondary.

1466
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: Last game here, the late game in the doubleheader, we

1467
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: got another ten o'clock Eastern kickoff here, Texans at Seahawks.

1468
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: The last time we saw Houston, they were destroying a

1469
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: beat up Ravens defense. Coming off that strong game and

1470
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: the bye. What are your expectations for this offense against

1471
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: a much better defense, although one with its own you know,

1472
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: some injury question marks in Seattle here.

1473
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 4: Fits, I have immense respect for this Seattle defense and

1474
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 4: for defensive mastermind Mike McDonald. Seahawks are fourth in defensive DVA,

1475
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 4: second against the run, ninth against the pass, and they

1476
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 4: have been banged up in the secondary, but they are

1477
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 4: maybe getting some or possibly all of their injured guys back.

1478
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 4: Cornerback Devon Witherspoon and safety Julian Love got in limited

1479
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: practices Thursday. Cornerback Greek Wollen he had a concussion, he

1480
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: was out last week. He had I believe a full

1481
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: practice Thursday, and games in Seattle tough place for visitors

1482
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: to play. I really only want to play Nico Collins

1483
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: on the Houston side. Don't really want to play CJ.

1484
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 4: Stroud against a really dangerous Seattle pass rush. They just

1485
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: try to sack Trevor Lawrence seven times and Stroud plays

1486
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: find a really bad offensive line, And I don't want

1487
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: to play Woody Marx or Nick Chubb, two guys in

1488
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 4: a split backfield going against a good run defense. So

1489
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: other than Nico Collins, yeah, I'm not really excited.

1490
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: What are your expectations?

1491
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 3: Zero?

1492
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: Because I know on the Thursday show, Jake had CJ.

1493
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: Stroud as sort of his like plant your flag player

1494
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: that he was actually really convicted on starting this week,

1495
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: Fitz is trying to get away from him. What do

1496
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: you think about Straut? And then that's just the offense

1497
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: in general matching up with Seattle.

1498
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: So Fitz lays out a lot of really good points,

1499
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: like this defense has been down, a lot of players

1500
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: are getting a lot of players back. I guess my

1501
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: only pushback about that is Houston, if they want to

1502
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: remove the ball in this game, they're gonna have to

1503
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: pass because they're not running the ball. They're not gonna

1504
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: get any ground on the ground. They're not like Seattle's

1505
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 3: run defense has been and continues to be elite. So

1506
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 3: if they're gonna move the ball, it's gonna have to

1507
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: be through the air. So that's one of the reasons

1508
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: why I'm not saying I'm immensely high on CJ. Stroud.

1509
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: I think the volatility is definitely their snap to snap

1510
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 3: because you don't know what you're going to get from

1511
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: him or the Houston offensive line. But I think out

1512
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 3: of necessity, the Texans are going to have to throw

1513
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 3: the freaking ball. And so you look at the coverage matchups,

1514
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: like it's pretty good for Christian Kirk. Seattle's given up

1515
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: and I know Witherspoon's injury has helped that, but they

1516
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 3: have given up production to slot wide receivers. Seattle has been,

1517
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, a pretty good matchup for opposing tight ends

1518
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 3: and receiving backs. So like, while I'm not running out

1519
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: the play Woody Marks, I think if he is going

1520
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: to be the guy preferred on passing downs, he can

1521
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: at least be flexworthy in PPR formats. And Dalton Schultz

1522
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 3: is like inner streamer territory considering Seattle's given up the

1523
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 3: six most schedule adjusted fantasy points per game to tight ends.

1524
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: So like, I'm not going out there and telling everybody go,

1525
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 3: look like, just bet all the overs for Houston and

1526
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: their receivers and stuff like that, but I think necessity

1527
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: Houston is going to have to throw the ball on

1528
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 3: this game.

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: We'll go ahead and wrap things up there.

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Speaker 1: Best of luck to everybody here in Week seven for

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