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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some basketball. So the Suns took
Speaker 1: a brief, little five point lead in the second quarter
Speaker 1: and then the Clippers just methodically pulled away from there.
Speaker 1: James Harden was awesome in the run there at the
Speaker 1: end of the second quarter as the Clippers took the
Speaker 1: lead back was just killing him and pick and roll.
Speaker 1: He hit a step back three at a pull up
Speaker 1: mid range jump shot when he snaked to the pick
Speaker 1: and roll, got all the way downhill and got his
Speaker 1: shoulder and he drew you banks and finished on the
Speaker 1: left side of the basket. He hit zoobots on a
Speaker 1: couple of pocket passes which led to weak side rotations
Speaker 1: to get guys like Terrence May and close that opportunities.
Speaker 1: Just classic Harden offensive engine stuff. Remember James Harden. As
Speaker 1: much as we can criticize him in the postseason, there
Speaker 1: aren't many players that are better regular season engines than
Speaker 1: James Harden, because he can consistently generate high quality shots
Speaker 1: for himself in pick and rolling in ISO, and then
Speaker 1: he can get the defense in rotation. I thought Terrence
Speaker 1: Mann did an awesome job defending Devin Booker and kind
Speaker 1: of taking away some of the advantage situations that Devin
Speaker 1: can generate. The Clippers four to seven, Booker into six turnovers.
Speaker 1: Kawhi bounced back from his rough shooting night went eight
Speaker 1: for fifteen after going six for seventeen against the Lakers
Speaker 1: the other night. The Suns it just never felt like
Speaker 1: they could gain any sort of significant momentum in this game.
Speaker 1: And that's where like what screamed to me off the
Speaker 1: screen in this game, is that the Clippers are just
Speaker 1: a better version of the Suns. These are two teams
Speaker 1: that have a lot of guys that like to look
Speaker 1: for their own shot. Right, These are a lot of
Speaker 1: guys I would argue that like PG and Choire a
Speaker 1: little bigger and maybe a little bit more efficient overall
Speaker 1: and can get closer to the rim. But Katie and
Speaker 1: Devin Booker I think are better passers. But they're if
Speaker 1: you actually look down the roster, it's like Kawi's kind
Speaker 1: of every bit as good as KD, if not a
Speaker 1: little bit better, right, and has played better basketball this
Speaker 1: year than KD. Paul George is playing better ball than
Speaker 1: Devin Booker this season. If both of those guys PG
Speaker 1: and Choire significantly more impactful on the defensive end of
Speaker 1: the floor, James Harden is playing better basketball right now
Speaker 1: than Bradley Beal. Terrence Mann, Like if you start to
Speaker 1: look at that, like Grayson Allen, Eric Gordon, Joshakogi kind
Speaker 1: of like fifth guy in the lineup thing, Terrence Man
Speaker 1: is just a better two way player than all those guys.
Speaker 1: Even though he's having a rough shooting season and then
Speaker 1: Zubots is just a better version of Yusef nurkicch more physical,
Speaker 1: is a better defensive player, holds up more. He can
Speaker 1: actually cause more problems fighting guys off as spots. When
Speaker 1: it comes to the other centers around the league, they're
Speaker 1: just better. Clippers are eleventh in defense, the Suns are
Speaker 1: seventeenth in defense. Both suck at defensive rebounding, but the
Speaker 1: Clippers are twenty first and the Suns are twenty third.
Speaker 1: Both teams take a ton of pull up jump shots.
Speaker 1: Last night was crazy. There was thirty three pull up
Speaker 1: two pointers in the game and nineteen of them went in.
Speaker 1: That's one point one five points per shot. Imagine that
Speaker 1: all the analytics guys were probably having a heart attack
Speaker 1: watching all those mid range jump shots and yet them
Speaker 1: still being highly efficient shots. But here's the thing in
Speaker 1: the big In the big picture, both teams attempt a
Speaker 1: ton of pull up jumpers. The Clippers get one point
Speaker 1: zero one one points per pull up jump shot this season,
Speaker 1: the Suns get zero point nine to four. So even
Speaker 1: in that, the Clippers are a more efficient offense. Now,
Speaker 1: to be clear, the Suns still have a ton of
Speaker 1: room for improvement. But even just from the standpoint of personnel,
Speaker 1: the Clippers just look like a better version of them.
Speaker 1: And that would scare me if I was a Phoenix
Speaker 1: fans a fan, just because you know, when you start
Speaker 1: to look at these teams in terms of their championship contentionent,
Speaker 1: you're every team is good and bad at different things,
Speaker 1: right Like, every team has strengths and strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 1: Like Denver, even winning the championship last year, their bench
Speaker 1: is not their strong suit. Right Like, that's not gonna
Speaker 1: be an area where they win games in most situations.
Speaker 1: Right Like, everyone's got their strengths, everyone has their weaknesses.
Speaker 1: The difference is the Clippers and the Suns have similar
Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses, except for the Clippers have better strengths
Speaker 1: and their weaknesses are less weak And that would concern
Speaker 1: me from that standpoint, because you're either gonna have to
Speaker 1: go through the Clippers or go through teams that the
Speaker 1: Clippers beat, And in that specific case, it's just a
Speaker 1: tough matchup because a team that would beat the Clippers
Speaker 1: would present similar issues for the Suns in terms of
Speaker 1: their overall size on the front line and things along
Speaker 1: those lines. Now, for the Suns, to try to close
Speaker 1: that gap. They need Devin Booker to get back to
Speaker 1: the level he was at in the playoffs last year,
Speaker 1: which he has not been except for out of the
Speaker 1: first few games of the season. They need Bradley Beale
Speaker 1: to find his groove. He's struggling to convert spot up
Speaker 1: possessions into points right now, even though he's shooting the
Speaker 1: ball well. In general, looks like a little bit of
Speaker 1: a clunky fit offensively at this point, and they probably
Speaker 1: need to hit a trade something in terms of a
Speaker 1: wing athlete that can do dirty work for them while
Speaker 1: also being a plus offensive player. They need all of
Speaker 1: that stuff to go right for them for them to
Speaker 1: get up to that level. So definitely concerning for the
Speaker 1: Suns right now. Again, I talked about that. I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk more about this in the power rankings, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to put the Clippers on my championship contender list.
Speaker 1: I just want to wait until after these Thunder Thunder
Speaker 1: Timberwolves matchups that are coming up next week. I think
Speaker 1: it's the twelfth and the fourteenth, so it's right around
Speaker 1: the corner. Those games we'll see, but right now, i'd
Speaker 1: put them above the Suns for sure at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, moving on to our power ranking. So to
Speaker 1: give you an idea, I wanted to read this out
Speaker 1: because it's classic example of January in the NBA. So
Speaker 1: last week our power rankings were Boston at one, okay
Speaker 1: See at two, Minnesota at three, Clippers at four, Milwaukee
Speaker 1: at five, Philly at six, Sacramento at seven, Nuggets at eight,
Speaker 1: the Pacers at nine, and the Pelicans at ten. But
Speaker 1: it's January in the NBA. So this is what has
Speaker 1: happened since I put that list together a week ago. Today,
Speaker 1: the Celtics just lost to the Pacers without Tyrese Haliburton,
Speaker 1: after beating them with Tyres two days earlier. The Thunder
Speaker 1: followed up their huge win over Boston with back to
Speaker 1: back losses to the Hawks and the Nets, two teams
Speaker 1: that have been free falling over the last month. The
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves have lost three of their last four games.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Clippers just lost to an ice cold
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers team. The Bucks have lost four out
Speaker 1: of five and just got murdered at home by the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz. The seventy six Ers have lost three of
Speaker 1: four and they just got murdered at home by the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz. The Kings just lost by thirty three points
Speaker 1: at home to the New Orleans Pelicans and lost to
Speaker 1: Charlotte a few days before that. The Nuggets just lost
Speaker 1: to an ice cold Orlando Magic team. And the Pelicans
Speaker 1: and the Pacers are both playing well, but they both
Speaker 1: recently just got outclassed by the Clippers and the Celtics.
Speaker 1: So like, we're gonna move teams around accordingly on the
Speaker 1: power rankings list this week, because that's the purpose of
Speaker 1: the list to kind of, you know, quantify regular season basketball.
Speaker 1: But we should never read too much into January basketball.
Speaker 1: It is a confluence of events that lead to a
Speaker 1: lot of wild swings in effort between teams on a
Speaker 1: night tonight basis, which can lead to some weird results.
Speaker 1: Everyone has been in this grind since early October, so
Speaker 1: it's like three plus full months of work, yet you're
Speaker 1: not even halfway done, so you can see how that
Speaker 1: can get fatiguing. The trade deadline is still a month away,
Speaker 1: so there's no real change on the horizon. Most change
Speaker 1: usually when we get to this point. It's not until
Speaker 1: like the last couple of weeks where you start to
Speaker 1: see some action and then all the shit you've accomplished
Speaker 1: to this point just doesn't matter when the Utah When
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz come into your building and they're young
Speaker 1: and they're athletic and they're playing their ass off, they
Speaker 1: don't care how many wins you have, they don't care
Speaker 1: where you're at in the standings. They're young, they're talented,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna come play hard for forty eight minutes
Speaker 1: and if you don't, you're gonna lose, and you might
Speaker 1: lose ugly. And it's worse now than ever because there's
Speaker 1: so much talent in the league. So the point being,
Speaker 1: we can still learn things during January, but it's probably
Speaker 1: the month that can most misrepresent what a team is
Speaker 1: capable of. Like, for instance, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: jumping off the bucks in the Lakers right now because
Speaker 1: they've been playing some god awful basketball in the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, right, But I mean, you're be my
Speaker 1: guest if you want to pick against Damon Giannis in
Speaker 1: a playoff series, or pick against Lebron James and Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis in a playoff series, Like I think both teams
Speaker 1: are still really good and they're just just stuck in
Speaker 1: the mud of January NBA basketball. I think the Lakers
Speaker 1: in particular are desperate for some turnover. I think the
Speaker 1: Bucks two could use an upgrade, although I know Malik
Speaker 1: Beasley wants them to stick with what they got. But again,
Speaker 1: the point is January in the NBA is weird, so
Speaker 1: we learn what we can, but we try not to
Speaker 1: overreact to anything that happens in this particular month. I
Speaker 1: have two teams dropping out from last week. The Sacramento
Speaker 1: Kings are five and five in their last ten. They
Speaker 1: just got obliterated by the Pelicans at home the other night,
Speaker 1: lost to Charlotte before that, just going through a rough patch,
Speaker 1: so they're off the list for right now. The Pacers
Speaker 1: I'm taking off. Yes, they're playing amazing basketball, they've won
Speaker 1: seven out of eight, but Tyres Halliburnon just strained as
Speaker 1: a hamstring and is going to be out for at
Speaker 1: least two weeks, So I kind of want to just
Speaker 1: use that spot as an opportunity to shout out another
Speaker 1: team as the Pacers will have to play some fun
Speaker 1: n key basketball for a few weeks. The Pacers, I
Speaker 1: fully expect will make it back onto the list. Into
Speaker 1: the future. So Number ten the New York Knicks. They
Speaker 1: are undefeated four and uh since Og and and Obi
Speaker 1: joined the team. A one to twenty one offensive rating,
Speaker 1: which is awesome, in a one to zho three defensive rating,
Speaker 1: which is the best in the league. Over that final
Speaker 1: that last four games quality wins too. They destroyed the
Speaker 1: Sixers in Philly and they also beat the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: I want to shout out Julius Randall. He's gone for
Speaker 1: thirty five plus in four of his last six games,
Speaker 1: hooping his ass off. The Knicks have a much more
Speaker 1: imposing physical profile now with Og in the lineup. They're
Speaker 1: going to be a hard out when we get to
Speaker 1: the postseason. Number nine the Dallas Mavericks. They've won four
Speaker 1: out of five, including wins over Minnesota and Golden State.
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Luca were playing so well against Minnesota that,
Speaker 1: even despite them having two of the best perimeter defenders
Speaker 1: in the league when they're engaged, they were throwing multiple
Speaker 1: bodies into their two main game, which was just putting
Speaker 1: Minnesota into rotation and causing all sorts of problems. Just
Speaker 1: a testament to how good Kyrie and Luca can be
Speaker 1: in the half court. But most importantly, the Mavericks are
Speaker 1: third in defensive rating over their last ten games. Really
Speaker 1: encouraging stuff coming out of Dallas that could bode well
Speaker 1: for the postseason. That's much closer to the Dallas team
Speaker 1: that we saw from two years ago. Number eight the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Pelicans took a beating from the Clippers, who
Speaker 1: are just a better basketball team right now, but they
Speaker 1: are still playing great ball. They've won each of the
Speaker 1: other five games in their last six. They bounced back
Speaker 1: by obliterating the Kings and Sacramento the other night. They're
Speaker 1: getting super balanced scoring, really high level pick and roll
Speaker 1: shot creation from CJ. McCollum and Brandon Ingram, and they
Speaker 1: have the second best defense in the league over the
Speaker 1: last fifteen games. We have Pelicans at eight. Number seven
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia seventy six ers. During this one in three stretch,
Speaker 1: their offense has completely fallen off of a cliff. They're
Speaker 1: shooting a league worst forty two percent from the field
Speaker 1: in that span and a league worst twenty six percent
Speaker 1: from three over that four game span. And beat has
Speaker 1: been great, but Tyreese mack seas in a little bit
Speaker 1: of a slump. That's been a big driving force behind
Speaker 1: their offense. Struggling. Number six the Milwaukee Bucks. They've lost
Speaker 1: four out of five and five out of eight. They've
Speaker 1: been a bottom five defense over their last eight games. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the point of attack has been a problem, helping rotation
Speaker 1: has not been great. They're only tenth in offense over
Speaker 1: that span. Basically, everyone not named Giannis isn't playing well.
Speaker 1: I think this team is much much better than they
Speaker 1: look right now. They're just a victim of some January basketball,
Speaker 1: some mid season blues. They have issues, but so does
Speaker 1: everyone else, and they have a ton of strengths. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna still be at the top when we
Speaker 1: get or near the top when we get to the
Speaker 1: end of the season. Number five the Minnesota Timberwolves. They're
Speaker 1: starting to crack a little bit under their brutal schedule.
Speaker 1: They've lost four out of seven games. Ironically, it's been
Speaker 1: their defense that has struggled. Their twelfth in defense over
Speaker 1: that span. I didn't really like their strategy late in
Speaker 1: the game against Dallas. This is not a defense that
Speaker 1: has a ton of foot speed, so they really need
Speaker 1: to keep their perimeter defenders defending actions one on one
Speaker 1: and two on two, which means less aggression in terms
Speaker 1: of bringing their help side defenders out. I think when
Speaker 1: they get into rotation, their foot speed becomes a little
Speaker 1: bit of an issue. That's just a little schematic thing.
Speaker 1: Two more tough games in this schedule stretch, at Orlando
Speaker 1: and at Boston, and then things will lighten up for them.
Speaker 1: Number four Oklahoma City Thunder. Their defense has caused the
Speaker 1: slippage since the Boston win. They were third in defensive
Speaker 1: rating in December. They are twenty seventh so far in
Speaker 1: defensive rating through four games in January. They are also
Speaker 1: giving up an offensive rebound on thirty nine point two
Speaker 1: percent of their opponent's misses, which is by far the
Speaker 1: worst mark in the league over the course of January
Speaker 1: so far. That's been a consistent weakness for the Thunder
Speaker 1: during the season is their inability to clean up the
Speaker 1: defensive glass. Number three the Denver Nuggets. They dropped a
Speaker 1: game to Orlando the other day, but it was something
Speaker 1: crazy like their ninth back to back of the season,
Speaker 1: which is an absolutely brutal schedule when you consider we're
Speaker 1: less than halfway through an eighty two game season, so
Speaker 1: eighteen of their you know, like basically half their games
Speaker 1: to this point have been in back. That's tough. So
Speaker 1: I still think they're the clear championship favorite at this point,
Speaker 1: barring an injury to his starter, I just think they're
Speaker 1: going to win now. Peyton Watson has become so good
Speaker 1: that he's kind of filled that Bruce Brown alternate fifth
Speaker 1: closer spot really nicely, and I actually think he can
Speaker 1: be better than Bruce Brown in the long run because
Speaker 1: he's a bigger, stronger, a bigger, more long athlete. Right.
Speaker 1: Nuggets all the way up at number three, number two
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Clippers. They're basically undefeated with Kawhi in
Speaker 1: the lineup since November outside of the Laker game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and the Lakers are a much better team than their
Speaker 1: record shows. And the Lakers were at home and they
Speaker 1: were super desperate, so that's a tough game to win
Speaker 1: under any circumstances. They came back the next night and
Speaker 1: just completely outclassed the Phoenix Suns. I'm going to add
Speaker 1: them to my championship contender list, It's just a question
Speaker 1: of where, and I'm going to do it after the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Oklahoma City game. So we'll do like a Championship
Speaker 1: Contender Update episode when we get closer to that point.
Speaker 1: And then lastly, I think they've been here three four
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. Now, the Boston Celtics, they lost
Speaker 1: a weird game to the Pacers last night after Tyres
Speaker 1: Haliburton left the game, but they did just literally outclass
Speaker 1: the Pacers with Tyres Aliburton in the lineup two nights earlier.
Speaker 1: So just kind of weird January basketball stuff. Tatum's pull
Speaker 1: up jump shot is red hot, and the Celtics offense
Speaker 1: is insane right now. One twenty eight offensive rating in
Speaker 1: their last ten games. That's a full two point one
Speaker 1: points ahead of the number two spot over that span.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to our mail bag. We
Speaker 1: have eleven mail bag questions today. Hey, Jason, big fan
Speaker 1: of the show, how do you think the Kings should
Speaker 1: handle the trade deadline? It was already clear that an
Speaker 1: upgrade from Barnes was necessary, but now Herderr Struggles has
Speaker 1: added a new sense of urgency for a trade. What
Speaker 1: do you think is the smartest approach to the second
Speaker 1: half of the season for the Kings? So you know
Speaker 1: it's interesting, is I look at the Kings, I want
Speaker 1: to like. I really like the idea of more size
Speaker 1: in the lineup when you factor in Demonis Sibonis and
Speaker 1: some of his defensive limitations. Right, we've seen this before
Speaker 1: with We've seen this with the Pelicans this year. We
Speaker 1: see it with the Nuggets this year and last year
Speaker 1: in the postseason. When you have a really really good
Speaker 1: low man, like a guy like kind of like what
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram's been doing for the Pelicans a lot this year,
Speaker 1: kind of like what Aaron Gordon's been doing for the
Speaker 1: Nuggets forever. When your weak side defenders have real length
Speaker 1: and size and athletic tools, it makes it so that
Speaker 1: you can bring your big man higher into your pick
Speaker 1: and roll coverage is to be more aggressive where his
Speaker 1: inability to block shots is not as much of a
Speaker 1: problem and it's more basketball like Q, quick hands, defensive
Speaker 1: rotation stuff that comes to the surface, which actually fits
Speaker 1: the Bonus' skill set more. But you have to have
Speaker 1: a top tier athlete at the four that can really
Speaker 1: cause problems as a low man in help situations, rotating
Speaker 1: back to the weak side and cleaning up the defensive glass.
Speaker 1: So we know they went after Siakam and that that
Speaker 1: deal fell apart, probably because Kevin Herder or not Kevin Heurder,
Speaker 1: because Keegan Murray was being pulled from the deal, and
Speaker 1: I totally understand that thought process. Keegan Murray's a really
Speaker 1: exciting young player. But the idea is if you can
Speaker 1: get a Siakam type of player in at the four
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that raises your defensive ceiling substantially.
Speaker 1: I also think people have underested me to Pascal Siakam
Speaker 1: is a post up shot creator, which would add a
Speaker 1: kind of additional, you know, playoff entry point for their offense,
Speaker 1: which I think is worth looking at. The other thing too,
Speaker 1: I think when push comes to shove, you got to
Speaker 1: go down with Malik Monk and Dearon Fox on the floor.
Speaker 1: I think it just gives you the amount of Gerbil
Speaker 1: penetration you need to dissect playoff defenses, and so a
Speaker 1: lot of that kind of entails. If I've got Dearon
Speaker 1: Fox and Malik Monk, Darren Fox can take high leverage
Speaker 1: defensive assignments, and I actually think that that's kind of
Speaker 1: the best version of the Kings is when Dereon Fox
Speaker 1: is really locked in on the defensive end. But if
Speaker 1: Malik Monk's your two. I really need three good forwards there, right,
Speaker 1: or two good forwards next to Demoness Sibonis and so like,
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you got to ask yourself, like,
Speaker 1: do you want to sit here and wait for Keigan
Speaker 1: Murray's development and see if you can find some discounted
Speaker 1: forward to upgrade Harrison Barnes or do you want to
Speaker 1: push your chips in and try to go at this thing.
Speaker 1: And that's a decision for the front office to make,
Speaker 1: because there's a version of this where maybe you package
Speaker 1: Herder and Keegan Murray and you bring back a player
Speaker 1: like that and you slot Harrison Barnes up at the
Speaker 1: three they've had some success with, like Sabonis, Trey Lyles,
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes lineups that are just bigger this season. Those
Speaker 1: lineups are actually plus nine per one hundred possessions and
Speaker 1: ninety one possessions this year when Barnes is next to
Speaker 1: Lyles and Sabonis and so like, maybe you end up
Speaker 1: making a move like that and you have a Sabonis,
Speaker 1: Siakam Barnes, Moleik, Monk, Deer and Fox kind of lineup
Speaker 1: that you can go down with in the postseason. But
Speaker 1: that puts off a lot of your long term upside,
Speaker 1: right because of whatever Keegan Murray and Kevin Herder can become.
Speaker 1: So it's tough decisions. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like if you want to keep Keegan Murray and keep
Speaker 1: some of your long term upside, that significantly diminishes the
Speaker 1: caliber player that you can bring back in that four spot,
Speaker 1: you know, unless unless you can hold off, and maybe
Speaker 1: you get lucky and you hold off until the deadline,
Speaker 1: and then Siakam does go without having to include a
Speaker 1: Keegan Murray in the deal. But I do think it's
Speaker 1: smart in the short term to wait until February before
Speaker 1: including a guy like Keegan Murray in a deal like that.
Speaker 1: But the point is, I like Sabonis, hyper athletic versail forward,
Speaker 1: someone like a Siakam, and then I like that deer
Speaker 1: and Fox Malik Monk backcourt when we get into the postseason.
Speaker 1: Next question, the Warriors seem like they have a depth
Speaker 1: an issue with depth a depth. People blame Steve because
Speaker 1: he wants to play like nine guys, but we have
Speaker 1: twelve that can play. I think a good trade would
Speaker 1: be great for adding back a better player or two
Speaker 1: while also adding a subtraction. It seems like no one
Speaker 1: can get a rhythm since everyone's minutes are up and down.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Warrior's depth will get better with
Speaker 1: the trade or worse. Thank you for your thank you
Speaker 1: for the time you put in the show, thank you
Speaker 1: for the kind words. I talk about this a lot
Speaker 1: with the Lakers too, because they have a similar issue
Speaker 1: where they've got like a bunch of guys that can play.
Speaker 1: They got like eleven or twelve guys that can be
Speaker 1: in the rotation. My thing is like, consistency is what matters.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, at the deadline, you want to make
Speaker 1: a consolidation trade is what you call that. If you've
Speaker 1: got guys at the end of your rotation that are
Speaker 1: good enough to play more minutes, but they aren't playing
Speaker 1: more minutes because you don't have room for them in
Speaker 1: the rotation, then you're getting less out of that contract
Speaker 1: than someone else could get, which means it's worth more
Speaker 1: to you as a trade piece than it is a
Speaker 1: rotation piece, unless you're planning in the long run, right.
Speaker 1: So a lot of this comes down to the warrior's
Speaker 1: decision making as it stands, like, are you going all
Speaker 1: in on the stepf era or are you trying to
Speaker 1: rebuild for the future and leaning into Comen gud Moody
Speaker 1: and Tray Jackson Davis and Brandon Pazimski. Right, And that's
Speaker 1: decision number one. But if you make the decision to
Speaker 1: lead into STEPH, then from there it's a two step process.
Speaker 1: Step one lean into a rotation. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this when we talk about Draymond here in a minute.
Speaker 1: But there's a specific lineup that I want to see
Speaker 1: the Warriors lean in to until the deadline. When you
Speaker 1: get to the deadline, then it's about a consolidation trade.
Speaker 1: You want to turn two or three rotation players into
Speaker 1: one or two better rotation players because it simplifies your
Speaker 1: rotation and raises your ceiling. That's the way that I
Speaker 1: would approach it when we get to the deadline this year.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk more Warriors here in a minute.
Speaker 1: Next question, how come you never talk about the Magic
Speaker 1: who's been in top four in their conference all year long,
Speaker 1: and how Palo Mancaro is already taking a superstar leap
Speaker 1: in year two. I've never seen a number one pick
Speaker 1: get such little coverage as Palo does before these last
Speaker 1: two wins, the Magic had lost eight out of eleven,
Speaker 1: and that was the main reason why we haven't been
Speaker 1: talking a lot of Magic. They're a young team. I
Speaker 1: don't view them as a serious championship contender. And as
Speaker 1: you guys know, this show is going to take a
Speaker 1: much harder look at the top ten teams in the league.
Speaker 1: Like there are NBA shows out there that have a
Speaker 1: more balanced approach to all thirty teams, that's just not
Speaker 1: the way we do it here. Like I will occasionally
Speaker 1: talk about young players and rookie rankings and draft stuff,
Speaker 1: and we will look at the team in that eleven
Speaker 1: to twenty range occasionally, but I'm primarily leaning into those
Speaker 1: top ten teams, and the Magic have for stretches of
Speaker 1: the year been a top ten regular season team, but
Speaker 1: I don't view them as a champion top ten championship contender.
Speaker 1: They're super young, and they're a half court offense is garbage.
Speaker 1: So that's the main reason why that's why we don't
Speaker 1: talk about him as much on the show. But that said,
Speaker 1: we have hit the Magic at like a half dozen
Speaker 1: times this year. It's not like we don't talk about them.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I think Palo is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: To put it simply, Pawlow represents a type of player
Speaker 1: that I really really think thrives when we get to
Speaker 1: the later rounds of the postseason. He is a bully
Speaker 1: ball forward, and he's actually more advanced as a passer
Speaker 1: than I think a lot of people expected him to
Speaker 1: be at this point. Jumper still has a ways to go.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to get better at it. He has
Speaker 1: shot the ball better this year than he did last year,
Speaker 1: but that there's room for improvement there. He's better defensively
Speaker 1: than he was last year too. I actually do see
Speaker 1: him as a guy that could take the leap to
Speaker 1: legitimate superstardom in the future. But most importantly, I just
Speaker 1: envisioned Plow in an Eastern Conference finals, just in a
Speaker 1: rock fight of a game, just playing bully ball around
Speaker 1: the rim and generating open looks out of drawing multiple defenders,
Speaker 1: and out of just being bigger and stronger than everybody.
Speaker 1: So I'm a huge fan of Pallo. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: in a little bit about Jalen Suggs too, when we
Speaker 1: talk about role players, so like, it's not so much
Speaker 1: that I dislike the magic or that we're ignoring them
Speaker 1: on purpose. It's just kind of like the way the
Speaker 1: layout of the show works, right, Like, we're gonna heavy
Speaker 1: focus on the top ten teams, occasional focus on the
Speaker 1: middle ten teams, gonna hit the big markets, your Celtics,
Speaker 1: your Warriors, your Lakers, are gonna get the knicks. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a lot of that kind of stuff because
Speaker 1: that's just kind of the layout of this particular show.
Speaker 1: All right. Draymond Green is back. He has signed a
Speaker 1: multi year extension with the Volume, which I'm very very
Speaker 1: excited about. I feel I'm proud to be under the
Speaker 1: same media umbrelliz Draymond. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: great up and coming media talents that we have in
Speaker 1: the industry. I think he's got a long media career
Speaker 1: ahead of him after he retires, and I'm very very
Speaker 1: happy to have him on with the Volume. Yesterday, he
Speaker 1: released his apology podcast, which needed to happen, as we know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was super, super transparent, and I thought
Speaker 1: he was being super vulnerable with something that I respected,
Speaker 1: you know, Draymond. I Draymond talked about, you know, how
Speaker 1: he got frustrated after what happened with all the people
Speaker 1: talking about how he needed help, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: part of me kind of like saw where he was
Speaker 1: coming from in the moment too, because like that's the
Speaker 1: thing is like we see Draymond a lot, but we
Speaker 1: see him in these brief windows, and like I could
Speaker 1: see how he would be like who the hell? Like
Speaker 1: why do you think you know me? Like why do
Speaker 1: you who have only seen these brief windows into my
Speaker 1: life think you know who I am as a human being?
Speaker 1: And I totally sympathize with that because it's the truth.
Speaker 1: Like I'll just put it this way, like I'm a
Speaker 1: lot better now in my early thirties, But like if
Speaker 1: you only knew me on the basketball court when I
Speaker 1: was like twenty five, you probably didn't like me very much.
Speaker 1: I was I was a dickhead, I was a hot
Speaker 1: heead I didn't really handle I handled I didn't handle
Speaker 1: my competent a competitive energy really well. I just I
Speaker 1: had issues that I had to deal with on the
Speaker 1: basketball court. Off the court though, totally different guy, right,
Speaker 1: And so like it wouldn't have been fair to judge
Speaker 1: who I was as a human being based on that.
Speaker 1: Now Draymond did does have some on court issues, and
Speaker 1: he specifically addressed them, but I did sympathize with his
Speaker 1: frustration there. There were two things in the podcast though,
Speaker 1: that I thought were we're super super interesting as it
Speaker 1: pertains to Draymond, like really taking a different approach to
Speaker 1: this one. He said that he turned help from a
Speaker 1: negative thing into positive things, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: really cool because he's right, Like why is it that
Speaker 1: we suddenly look at the idea that you need help
Speaker 1: as a bad thing. We all need help, Like you
Speaker 1: guys have no idea what my wife does for me
Speaker 1: on a daily basis to keep me sane, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's help? Does that? Like, like that's that's that's help
Speaker 1: that I need on a day basis. Some people get
Speaker 1: excellent benefits out of therapy. Some people get excellent benefits
Speaker 1: out of specific relationships that they lean on for emotional support.
Speaker 1: Like that is not a weakness. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool that Draymond, you know, basically, was like yeah,
Speaker 1: like people, I was hearing these people saying I need help,
Speaker 1: and I was like, screw you, Why are you saying
Speaker 1: I need help? And it's like actually, no, no, no, Like
Speaker 1: help is a good thing. Help is not a negative thing.
Speaker 1: Why am I putting such a negative energy on that?
Speaker 1: And then the second thing that I thought was really
Speaker 1: interesting is he talked about how he always used his
Speaker 1: play as an excuse for his behavior, right, and Draymond
Speaker 1: all the time would remember that big Instagram story that
Speaker 1: he recently had, and he talked about how like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have always been wired this way and this is
Speaker 1: how I win, and like I channel this energy and
Speaker 1: that's what makes me who I am and it's a
Speaker 1: good thing, right, and it's like part of who I am.
Speaker 1: And like Draymond was like, no, that's an excuse. I
Speaker 1: was using it as an excuse for bad behavior. And
Speaker 1: I thought I thought those were two really good examples
Speaker 1: of Draymond like completely changing his approach to put it simply,
Speaker 1: the Gobert thing, he was making excuses and this time
Speaker 1: he wasn't that to me is a is a sign
Speaker 1: of a guy who's like really looking in the mirror
Speaker 1: and striving for self improvement. At the same time, he
Speaker 1: said like, I have not changed completely in three weeks,
Speaker 1: Like it takes a lot of time. He's like, this
Speaker 1: is only the beginning of this process. I thought it
Speaker 1: was really, really I thought it was a really reflective
Speaker 1: podcast from Draymond in terms of just him striving to
Speaker 1: be the best version of himself. Now that I want
Speaker 1: to move into our follow up question, is Raymond Green
Speaker 1: the key to unlocking the Warriors' lineups featuring both Kaminga
Speaker 1: and Wiggants? Personally, I see that lineup as potentially devastating.
Speaker 1: This is where it gets exciting, because I actually think
Speaker 1: Draymond coming back now could mean a lot more for
Speaker 1: the Warriors than people think. And there's a couple of
Speaker 1: specific reasons. One, I think Draymond thinks he let his
Speaker 1: team down, and I think that that's going to cause
Speaker 1: him to approach this next couple of months with an
Speaker 1: insane level of intensity as a competitor to try to
Speaker 1: make it up to his teammates. Two, the Warriors are
Speaker 1: in some trouble. They're in some legitimate trouble in the standings,
Speaker 1: and they got to figure some shit out right. Steph
Speaker 1: went right back into a slump, played horribly against the
Speaker 1: Rafters as they got thrashed. They're in some trouble. They
Speaker 1: need to play really good basketball. And so when you
Speaker 1: combine like the kind of personal feeling of wanting to
Speaker 1: make it up to his team. With the urgency of
Speaker 1: the situation, I think we're going to get some incredible
Speaker 1: play out of Draymond Green over the next couple of months.
Speaker 1: I think that that specific lineup that you're referencing, that
Speaker 1: Steph Clay, Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan kaminga Draymond needs to start
Speaker 1: every game until the trade is made. It needs to
Speaker 1: play major minutes and have a long leash until every
Speaker 1: game is played. That is your five best players, That
Speaker 1: is your best opportunity. Like I understand that Wiggins is
Speaker 1: not playing well, but you need to try to push
Speaker 1: through that a little bit longer to see what you
Speaker 1: can get. Because you're not going to be trading Wiggins
Speaker 1: in all likelihood, so you're gonna be likely having to
Speaker 1: move some of these younger players, So you need to
Speaker 1: lean into Wiggins getting back on track. But I see
Speaker 1: switchability there. I see drop coverage. I see the ability
Speaker 1: to run multiple different coverages. Defensively, I see like if
Speaker 1: with Draymond shooting the ball as well as he has
Speaker 1: this year, I look at a lineup with a lot
Speaker 1: of offensive firepower in terms of downhill athleticism. Obviously, Kaminka
Speaker 1: and Andrew Wiggins on the weak side, and shooting could
Speaker 1: be an issue, but that's already been an issue in
Speaker 1: other lineups, So why not have that but also be
Speaker 1: super athletic. I think they're going to be really physically
Speaker 1: imposing in that group. That's the one you lean into.
Speaker 1: You lean into that five, you see what you have there,
Speaker 1: and then you make a call when you get into
Speaker 1: February and they get closer to the deadline. Next question,
Speaker 1: I think the reason the Clippers have been relatively healthy
Speaker 1: this year versus the versus last year is because of
Speaker 1: the aggregate ball handling and taking pressure off of PG
Speaker 1: and Kawhi. Do you think that plays a factor and
Speaker 1: do you think it will hold off in the playoffs. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think the aggregate ball handling
Speaker 1: has really helped in terms of just how good they look.
Speaker 1: They're more organized on offense. James Harden, just to put
Speaker 1: it simply, if I had to put it down to
Speaker 1: one concept, he gets the defense into rotation a lot,
Speaker 1: which makes the game of basketball so much easier when
Speaker 1: you're playing with guys closing out at you versus a
Speaker 1: set and loaded defense. So I think it's helped as
Speaker 1: far as the injuries go. Like, your guess is as
Speaker 1: good as mine. It could be luck. It could be
Speaker 1: Kawhi and PG just playing more and them just being
Speaker 1: more conditioned and therefore holding up better as they play. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what it is as far as
Speaker 1: the health goes, but I do know the ball handling
Speaker 1: has really helped the basketball product a lot. Next question, Jason,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, who do you think is the most
Speaker 1: valuable player to their team? I don't mean who's the
Speaker 1: best player that could possibly be a player that's like
Speaker 1: the fiftieth best player in the league, if you think
Speaker 1: they're the most valuable to their team. This is meant
Speaker 1: as a question that's sort of more fun if you
Speaker 1: want to set aside versus obvious answers such as you Embid, Giannis, Luca,
Speaker 1: Kerry Curry, etc. And pick someone you feel has a
Speaker 1: role on a team that is absolutely essential and reliant
Speaker 1: to them having any team success, no matter how small
Speaker 1: or large. Have at it all, right, great question, by
Speaker 1: the way, So the star guys, the three guys that
Speaker 1: come to minor Embiid Haliburton, and Luka Doncic. Those three
Speaker 1: guys I think have been doing the most with least
Speaker 1: in terms of the superstar class this year. Some role
Speaker 1: player examples Aaron Gordon and KCP with kntavi's callwell Pope
Speaker 1: as a primary point of attack defender, Aaron Gordon as
Speaker 1: a low man and as a guy that can guard
Speaker 1: the Kawhi's and the Lebrons and the Kevin Durants. I
Speaker 1: don't think that you can do much more in terms
Speaker 1: of importance in the winning context than what Aaron Gordon
Speaker 1: and CACP do for Denver. Derek White with the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: Here's a crazy stat for you. The Celtics are fourteen
Speaker 1: points better per one hundred possessions with Derek White on
Speaker 1: the floor versus off. The next closest Celtic is Tatum
Speaker 1: at plus four. So that goes to show you what
Speaker 1: Derek White does outstanding point of attack defense, one of
Speaker 1: the best shot blocking guards in the league, really really
Speaker 1: good offensive player, gets an excellent passer, gets the defense
Speaker 1: in rotation primary action that the Celtics like to run
Speaker 1: at the end of games. As a Derek White Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum two man game like his pull up three point
Speaker 1: shooting has been outstanding. Derek White's just an awesome role player.
Speaker 1: Jalen Suggs in Orlando. He was the hero of the
Speaker 1: end of that Denver Nuggets game the other night, just
Speaker 1: with the job that he did on Jamal Murray to
Speaker 1: help shut down that Jokic Murray two man game at
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Just an incredible point of
Speaker 1: attack defender. Jump shooting comes and goes. But I think
Speaker 1: his physicality at the guard position is immensely important to
Speaker 1: what Orlando does. Alex Caruso and Chicago very similar concept.
Speaker 1: Lou Dort in Oklahoma City, very similar concept. Like Lou Dort,
Speaker 1: I think is vitally important to Oklahoma City with the
Speaker 1: job that he can do as a primary defender on
Speaker 1: the ball, taking those specific assignments. A lot of point
Speaker 1: of attack defenders in there. That the having a guy
Speaker 1: that can guard the other team's best player and you know,
Speaker 1: respectably fight over the top of screens and make things
Speaker 1: difficult and pick and roll is a hugely valuable concept
Speaker 1: in the NBA. All Right, four questions left. What other
Speaker 1: NBA content do you consume besides games? Do you ever
Speaker 1: watch thinking basketball videos? On YouTube's play on YouTube player, podcasts?
Speaker 1: Or other shows. So I used to consume a ton
Speaker 1: of NBA content. Before I was doing this for a living,
Speaker 1: I was listening to a lot of Zach Low, I
Speaker 1: was listening to a lot of Pete Zais with like
Speaker 1: her film room, I was thinking basketball was a channel
Speaker 1: that I spent a lot of time on. There there
Speaker 1: were JJ Redick, I think is one of the very
Speaker 1: best in the business. Like JJ Redick is the guy
Speaker 1: that I personally strive to be. Like when I think
Speaker 1: about like the guy who's the best at doing what
Speaker 1: I do for a living, I look at JJ someone
Speaker 1: that I respect a great deal. He's kind of like
Speaker 1: a role model for me, so to speak, in the industry,
Speaker 1: someone that I look up to a great deal. But
Speaker 1: since I started doing this for a living, honestly, like
Speaker 1: I've been trying to find, I spend a ton of
Speaker 1: time around the game. So, like I coach basketball at
Speaker 1: least twice a week, I play basketball in some capacity
Speaker 1: at least six days a week. My strength training is
Speaker 1: geared around basketball. And then for this job, like I
Speaker 1: literally watch like thirty hours of film a week at
Speaker 1: a minimum, if not more. And so as a result
Speaker 1: of that, like I actually have been trying to find
Speaker 1: reasons to not do basketball related things. And so it
Speaker 1: used to be I'm a big like I put in
Speaker 1: my AirPods whenever I'm doing like weight training, shooting workouts,
Speaker 1: any sort of housework, anything of that like that nature,
Speaker 1: I like listen to stuff for like hour and a
Speaker 1: half a day. But that used to be basketball podcasts,
Speaker 1: and now I'm using that as an opportunity to take
Speaker 1: a mental break from the game. And so I still
Speaker 1: occasionally listen to those guys, mainly just because I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer and like, learn as much about the game
Speaker 1: as you can, and I learn about the game from
Speaker 1: guys like that. I learn about the game from you
Speaker 1: guys in the comments. They're they're about once a week,
Speaker 1: twice a week. I'll see a comment and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's a really interesting concept that I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about a lot of you guys who are
Speaker 1: specific fans of teams. It really means a lot to
Speaker 1: me when you guys take time to write out like
Speaker 1: you're frustrated, Like it's if you're a let's say you're
Speaker 1: a Pacers fan and you're frustrated about a specific lineup thing,
Speaker 1: or you disagree with something that I'm saying when you
Speaker 1: like write out the basketball case for it in the comments.
Speaker 1: I read those every single time, and I learn about
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, Like I have no delusions of
Speaker 1: grandeur to think that I know everything about the game
Speaker 1: of basketball. No, Like I consume as much of it
Speaker 1: as possible. I try to learn as much as possible.
Speaker 1: I'm constantly changing my basketball worldview based on new information.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any person out there that
Speaker 1: can't teach me something about the game. And so I
Speaker 1: definitely still listen to those guys when I every once
Speaker 1: in a while, but I listen to a lot of
Speaker 1: Star Wars, Star Wars audio books and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a huge Star Wars fan, so I look
Speaker 1: for opportunities to I have just like just went through
Speaker 1: the new High Republic book that just came out. I've
Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of Expanded Universe stuff like
Speaker 1: I just it almost allows me to disconnect. And so
Speaker 1: now when I'm you know, doing the dishes, instead of
Speaker 1: constantly inundating myself with more and more basketball, I'll take
Speaker 1: a break and I'll listen to a Star Wars book
Speaker 1: and now it's like I disconnect. It's almost like I'm
Speaker 1: relaxing in a different way while I'm working. So hopefully
Speaker 1: that answers that question for you. Speaking of Star Wars,
Speaker 1: Ryan Rumley, our lead producer, sent me a link to
Speaker 1: a new movie coming out that's called The Adventure. I
Speaker 1: think it's like The Adventures of the Mandalorian and Grogu
Speaker 1: or the Mandalorian and Grogu or something like that, and
Speaker 1: he asked me my take on the movie, and I
Speaker 1: I was looking at it and like the Mandalorian season
Speaker 1: three ended with Grogu and Mandalorian and Mando's sitting on
Speaker 1: like a porch chilling, and they did like the shrink
Speaker 1: circle thing on them. It made it kind of seem
Speaker 1: like it was o. And what kind of bothers me
Speaker 1: about this is it's very much like Classic Disney, like,
Speaker 1: let's make a movie because this is popular and we
Speaker 1: can make money on it. And I understand Grogu's got
Speaker 1: a big following and a lot of people are fans
Speaker 1: of him. My thing is, I think the Grogu Mandalorian
Speaker 1: storyline has kind of run its course, and so that
Speaker 1: means that they're going to force something to make a movie,
Speaker 1: which it just to me is just a bad process.
Speaker 1: Like I understand the idea of like take something that's
Speaker 1: there that already has a certain amount of public interest
Speaker 1: and then build around it, and then you have a
Speaker 1: certain guaranteed amount of traffic from that, but it may
Speaker 1: I think that approach has too much fear as it
Speaker 1: pertains to creating something new. And Star Wars is so
Speaker 1: desperate to go out of this timeline and to make
Speaker 1: something different, get out of this into I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's way in the past or way in the
Speaker 1: future where they can build something new that can capture
Speaker 1: the old Star Wars fans and the new Star Wars.
Speaker 1: But I think they're just scared to do it. And
Speaker 1: that's a real bummer, And I'm hoping Dave Filoni can
Speaker 1: kick that trend over the course of the next couple
Speaker 1: of years. Thanks question, We have two more. Why is
Speaker 1: the three and D player so rare in the NBA?
Speaker 1: Every team wants one, but not all teams can find them.
Speaker 1: It's really this simple to me. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that can shoot three that aren't really great defenders,
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of really great defenders that
Speaker 1: can't really shoot the three. The guys that can do
Speaker 1: both make like twenty five plus million a year, and
Speaker 1: now you're talking about a damn near star level contract
Speaker 1: for a guy that fills that three and D role
Speaker 1: player role. And so generally speaking, most of these teams
Speaker 1: are looking for the discounted mid level exception veteran minimum
Speaker 1: bi annual exception, guys that can do one thing really
Speaker 1: well and are only okay in the other and try
Speaker 1: to build a lineup around that. But the truth of
Speaker 1: the matter is it's not so much that there's not
Speaker 1: that many of them, it's just the ones that can
Speaker 1: do it are too expensive to really take up a
Speaker 1: significant chunk on your roster, especially if you've got multiple
Speaker 1: stars on your payroll. Last question, you've had way too
Speaker 1: many or you've had too many basketball questions. So let's
Speaker 1: get weird. Have you ever thought about snowboarding? So? I ski? Personally,
Speaker 1: I heard it was easier on your knees. That was
Speaker 1: the main reason I decided it to begin with. Also,
Speaker 1: most of the people that I go with do ski,
Speaker 1: so like I have two groups that I primarily go
Speaker 1: to the mountain with. I go with my friends and
Speaker 1: I go with my wife's family. My wife's snowboards and
Speaker 1: my wife's brother snowboards, but my wife's other two brothers
Speaker 1: both ski, and my wife's father skis, and my wife's
Speaker 1: father is an excellent skier and he actually taught me
Speaker 1: how to ski, and so that group largely skiers. And
Speaker 1: then when I go with my friends, I've got my
Speaker 1: wife who snowboards in one of my buddies who snowboards,
Speaker 1: but then the rest of us ski, and so it
Speaker 1: just makes more sense to ski because I get better pointers.
Speaker 1: It's more camaraderie in that respect. I also just heard
Speaker 1: it safer on your knees because your feet get anchored. Now,
Speaker 1: my wife, my wife's an excellent snowboarder, has been snowboarding
Speaker 1: since she was very young, and she just is like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to try skiing this year. And I literally
Speaker 1: told her, I'm like I don't get that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're my wife is like really good at snowboarding, Like
Speaker 1: she's way better at snowboarding than I am at skiing,
Speaker 1: And like I'll be like, you're already so good at this.
Speaker 1: Why would you want to go on the mountain and
Speaker 1: be less good at something? When you can just continue
Speaker 1: to be really good at snowboarding, and she's great at
Speaker 1: it too, Like, like, how are you not just wanting
Speaker 1: to do more of that? I know, for me personally,
Speaker 1: like I won't try snowboarding because I've actually become a
Speaker 1: decent skier and I have a freaking great time when
Speaker 1: I'm skiing, so I'd rather just ski. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I won't ever try it, but like it would have
Speaker 1: to be I'd have to like literally live on a
Speaker 1: mountain and ski fifty days a year for me to
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'll take five to try snowboarding just
Speaker 1: to see if I like it. But like right now,
Speaker 1: I'm skiing on average like eight to ten days a year,
Speaker 1: and so I'd rather just spend those eight to ten
Speaker 1: days doing what I'm already good at, which is skiing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm not like great
Speaker 1: at it by any stretch of the imagination, but I
Speaker 1: can get down, you know what I mean, and I
Speaker 1: have fun doing it. I was talking about this earlier
Speaker 1: today with the buddy mine at the gym. I'd say
Speaker 1: skiing is probably my I'm gonna go with third favorite
Speaker 1: thing to do in the world, behind playing basketball and
Speaker 1: playing guitar. All right, guys, that is all I have
Speaker 1: for today. Headed out of town for a few days.
Speaker 1: Like I said, i'll bring my gear with me in
Speaker 1: case anything big goes down. If not, i'll see you
Speaker 1: guys in a few days. As always, I sincerely appreciate
Speaker 1: you and I'll see you that the volume