1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi, everyone, 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: the choices we make, and you know what, three times 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: a day, sometimes more, we make choices about what food 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: we are going to put in our mouths or to 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: feed our families. My hilarious guest has made a career 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: of sharing his favorites and encouraging us all to just 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: try it. Phil Rosenthal, the creative mind behind the hit 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: sitcom Everybody Loves Raymond, spent years searching for his next 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: great scripted TV idea until he decided to pivot. The 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: result is Somebody Feed Phil, one of Netflix's longest running hits, 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: serving up food, travel, and connection. Beloved by fans around 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: the globe. It's now dishing out it's eighth season. He's 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: also writing books, opening a diner in Los Angeles, and 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: doing all he can to bring people together through food. 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: What a treat to talk to Phil Rosenthal. Hi there, Okay, 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: So your work has led to so many Emmy nominations 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: and awards, and that doesn't seem to be stopping anytime 19 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: soon because you have built this whole new era in 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: your career, which I am just so in awe of 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: I love this. It's like a pivot for you, and 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: it revolves around food, travel and connection. And I'm just 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: curious what made you choose to take this path because 24 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: it seems like just so I don't know, it seems 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: like a brave new world for you. 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Well, you're in the business. You know that when you 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: switch lanes. M hmm. Not everyone's receptives to that because 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: they don't know you can do anything but what they've 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: seen you do. I understand it, yes, But I also 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: think that the people were in charge of making the 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: decisions about the creative people. They should trust the creative 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: people a little bit, you think, yeah, But after Raymond 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: was over, the business had changed greatly. They didn't want 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: those types of shows anymore. So I kept striking out 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: because I can only write with the sensibility that I have, 36 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: and everybody wanted friends at that time. They wanted hipp 37 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: and Edgy, and they kept telling me just we like you, 38 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: but just be more hip and Edgy. I said, well 39 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: you got the right guy, I mister hipp and Edgi. 40 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: And so I just kept beating my head against the 41 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: wall trying to get another show on I thought that 42 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: was my purpose in life, was to do that. And 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: after a while I got very discouraged and I put 44 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: my head down and I thought, what if you could 45 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. Money's not the issue, right It 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: never was for me, even before Raymond, I didn't care 47 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: much about it. As soon as I could feed myself. 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: I never did anything for money. And then I thought, well, 49 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: I have this idea for this food and travel show. 50 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: And they looked at me like I was crazy, especially 51 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: because I said I think I can host this thing, 52 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: and they said you you're behind the camera, and I said, 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: I know, but I think I can do this, and 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: and it took me, Jenny, ten years to get the 55 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: show after the success of Raymond. 56 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so discouraged right now because if it takes 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: you ten years to get a show going, well, different way. 58 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: You know. If you suddenly said you know what I 59 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: want to do is I want to I want to 60 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: be a scuba diver on the on the World Scuba Team, 61 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: they would say, what, right, we know you as this, 62 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: we don't know you as that, So you have to 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: convince the people. But I did sell the show finally 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: to PBS was the first stop that took the show, 65 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: and I sold it with one line. This is the line, 66 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm exactly like Anthony Bourdain if he was afraid of everything. 67 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's good, and they bought it. They bought six 68 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: and that show was called I'll Have What Phil's Having 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: And you can see those first episodes there on YouTube net. 70 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: And then they couldn't afford to do the show anymore. 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: And then thank god, this new startup, little startup called 72 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: netflicks came along and they liked the show, and so 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: we changed the name and that somebody feed Phil And 74 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: we are in our eighth season where the longest running 75 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: unscripted original series in their history. 76 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Wow, well, congratulations, thanks. That must feel so good. It 77 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: feels like, in a way, this path does Journey sort 78 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: of chose you, even though you worked really hard at it. 79 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this proof, I don't want you to choke 80 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: on that ten thing because when you see the Oscars, 81 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: everybody wins. The thing goes ten years it took to 82 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: make this movie, right, that just won the It's always. 83 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: But the lesson is, if you make something a priority 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: in your life, and it really is a priority in 85 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: your life, you won't stop until you do it. If 86 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: you stop, that means I guess it wasn't that priority. 87 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: I love it. It's just that's persistence and tenacity, all 88 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: the things. 89 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and you know you have to Does it mean 90 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: I was happy, go lucky all the time, knowing that 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: it would eventually work out. No, I was completely miserable 92 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: many moments. I still get depressed and angry. All you 93 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: have to do is watch the news. But I just am. I. 94 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: I have optimism, and I think that things will work out. 95 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: I believe in people. I believe that most people in 96 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: the world are nice. And I feel very, very grateful 97 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: for everything else that's happened in my life, especially my 98 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: family and my friends. 99 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: That just comes through so loud and clear. Just looking 100 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: at your face and watching your shows, watching all your work. 101 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: But that is just at the forefront. Thanks, And it's 102 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: that gratitude. I feel like once you tap into that, 103 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: just gratitude for everything that you have. Yes, everything works out. 104 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: You know, you wake up in the morning and you 105 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: should be grateful you woke up right at this age. 106 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: Step one, Yeah, two, I look, Oh, there's my wife 107 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: of thirty five years. Wow, there's my dog at the 108 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: foot of the bed. There my kids, live. They're grown 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: now they live. One lives over here one minute this way, 110 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: one lives five minutes that way. And they're married. They're 111 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: getting married. And I'm the luckiest guy in the world. 112 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: And look what I get to do. 113 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Look what you get to do? 114 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh love? But if you say was worth ten years 115 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: of your life to get it? Yes, looking at it 116 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: talking to Jenny. 117 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: It was a flash now right, Wow. 118 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's where you end up. 119 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: It's where you Why do you think connecting and community 120 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: are so important? 121 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: Why are we here? All we do is as human 122 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: beings on the planets, tried to connect with other human beings. 123 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: That's all we do in every way. That's it. 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: That's it. 125 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Otherwise why, I mean, what else is there? So for me, 126 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: food happens to be the great connector. For me, the 127 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: food is the great connector are you saying food is 128 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: the great connector? And then laughs are the cement? So 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: if you and I we don't know each other, but 130 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: we let's go have lunch right So right away the 131 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: food comes, we're already happy. We're gonna eat, so we 132 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: all know how to do. I don't care if you're 133 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: living Swahili, you gotta eat here. Comes food. This might 134 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: be the best part of your day. It might be 135 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: you know, in addition to we have to live. We 136 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: like it. So if the food comes in so and 137 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: let's say it's delicious, ohh, now we're really happy. And 138 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: if we share a smile or a laugh, now we're 139 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 2: friends and we'll eat again. 140 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: Yes, you have a rule about food, right, you say, 141 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: just try it? Yes, that is I mean, that's a 142 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: great life philosophy, not even just about food. 143 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd with my daughter. 144 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: That's right. It's such a valuable lesson that you even 145 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: wrote a book about it. 146 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: Well it just try it, of course, is the what's 147 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 2: the underlying thing of just try it? Have an open mind? 148 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: So how many grown ups do we know that that 149 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: won't consider new ideas, that all stuck in their same 150 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: ideas and won't listen. So just try It applies to 151 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: all of us, doesn't it. And I'm guilty of it 152 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: of course. Yeah. Sometimes how we were brought up, Why 153 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: would I do something different? I've done it. Look, I'm 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: still alive. I did it this way my whole lifet 155 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: this about this, and I'm fine. I don't need to 156 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: change at all. But if what if we just tried 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: a new idea. Yes, food can open up a whole 158 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: new world. I always say, if you can open a mouth, 159 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: you can open a mind. 160 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Nice. 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Nice. You're literally taking in the culture of other people 162 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: already unusual to you. Oh maybe, well, maybe Japanese food 163 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: is not so bad. Maybe Japanese people are not so bad. 164 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Maybe Japan is not so bad. Maybe the way they 165 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: do things I could learn something from. 166 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it really opens up the world. There's you know, 167 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: that saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Yes, 168 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? 169 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: I think you can. 170 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: That's what I thought you brought that. 171 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: That's a defeatist attitude. You can't, right, what if you can? Yeah? 172 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Or the one you know? This is just how I am. 173 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: This is me, take it or leave it? 174 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, be that way you will always then be 175 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: that way. 176 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: Yep. 177 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: Are you completely happy? I mean deep down? You know 178 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: stubborn guys they go, I'm happy the way I got. 179 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: You don't seem happy. I think you could be happier. Listen, 180 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: not for me, I don't care, you know, Goodbye. I 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: go on to my next person that I like. I'm 182 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: just saying for you, that's why travel is so great, 183 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: because yeah, you can't help but have your mind blown. 184 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: It's the most mind expanding thing we can do in life, 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: is to see something else. That's why I do the show. 186 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: It's why I think. I think the world would be 187 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: better if we all could experience a tiny bit of 188 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: someone else's experience. 189 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Right, And people at home are wishing they could go 190 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: on these travels, but sometimes it's just not feasible. So 191 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: you're taking them. You're taking them even though they're in 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: their living rooms, and that's so meaningful. 193 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: Well, thanks, that's very important. However, I try to also say, 194 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: I understand not everybody can afford to go overseas, but 195 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: you can travel in your own town. What do I mean? 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: Let's say we were stuck in COVID. We're stuck at home. 197 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: We can't go out at all. We got to if 198 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: we want anything, we got to order it in right, 199 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: So what if we ordered from a restaurant that we 200 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: never tried before. Now, are you're traveling the Peruvian place from? Then? 201 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Peruvian. Let's look on the phone. 202 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: This is all I ask of people. Look on the phone, 203 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: Just look at the menu. See if there's anything there 204 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: you could possibly like. But what if I don't like it? Yeah, 205 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: so what if you don't like it? You're not five, 206 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: You'll get over it. But what if you do? That's everything? 207 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: So you look, they have chicken and rice. I like 208 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: chicken and yes, so you order the chicken rice chicken 209 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: rice I ever had. This is fantastic. Now COVID is over. Hey, 210 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: we should go to that place. We go to the place, 211 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: We see that the decorations, we try different things, We 212 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: meet the owner. He's fantastic. Next thing, you know, you're 213 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: not your peacher. 214 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, fast track you. You're so passionate. What 215 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: is the most meaningful part of your work? 216 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: The connection to people? 217 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: That's it. 218 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: So I'm just using food and my stupid sense of 219 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: humor to get you the real message, to get you 220 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: that that people are worth knowing, no matter where they're from. Yeah, 221 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: you know, I picked maybe a stupid time to be 222 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: on because I'm very pro other I'm very pro immigrant, 223 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm very pro all our differences. Somebody said America's diversity 224 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: is our super power. 225 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Can you imagine just looking out at people around you 226 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: and everyone looking exactly the same as you, or dressing 227 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: the same as you having no diversity. 228 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, your boring world not for you know, forget, forget 229 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: everyone has a right to live, forget that. I don't 230 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: want to live in a world where it's all me 231 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: And yeah it looks like me. 232 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I'd be so bored. 233 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, of course, and that that extends on the most 234 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: basic level. Yeah, the food choices we have. One of 235 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: the great things is like I go to Thailand, right, 236 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: and I have something I never had before, kowsoy. You 237 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: know what kowsoi is? 238 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: No, what would you call it? Kowsoi? 239 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: How soy? Okay h ao o ikowsoy? And you find 240 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: it Thai restaurants. I didn't know that, but I went 241 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: to Thailand. I went to a shack in chang My, Thailand, 242 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: and what comes coconut curry broth and then fresh hand 243 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: pulled noodles at the bottom like the best pasta you 244 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: ever had. And then whatever pro you like. It can 245 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: be chicken or beef, pork or tofu if you want that, 246 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: you have anything shrimp fish, then chilis and pickled mustard 247 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: greens and shallats and so it ticks all the boxes. Oh, 248 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: and then crispy fried noodles on top. 249 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Crispy that you got me with the crispy. 250 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: All the textures and all the flavors right lime over 251 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: the whole thing. My mouth's warming things. 252 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: I know you're making me hungry. 253 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So this in Chang Mai, Thailand, this bowl of 254 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: the most delicious thing I've ever had a dollar which 255 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: is my second favorite price. And then what did I 256 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: do when I came home? Well, we have a tie 257 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: town in la We have Thai restaurants all over the place. 258 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: Do you have cow so of course I never knew 259 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: to look, I would never know. But now see, I'm 260 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: turning you onto it. And whoever's listening next time, order 261 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: cowsy at the Thai rest right and tell me you're 262 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: not happy? 263 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, challenge accepted, I will do. 264 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: You know. 265 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm curious also in your life, besides with eating, where 266 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: do you push yourself to just try it even when 267 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: it's scary? 268 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I have a brother for that, right. So 269 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: my brother is the executive producer of the show, and 270 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: he and I, you know, made the show together, and 271 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I need him to push me into let's say, going 272 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: into the coldest water on the earth in Iceland, a 273 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: in a wet suit. I don't want to go in. 274 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he reminds you, just try it. 275 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Listen, what do you have a show for if you're 276 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: not going to do stuff? I'm like, yeah, but let's 277 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: say we don't have to be crazy. And so I 278 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: do it, and I'm always happy that I did it, 279 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: even though I fight again, I don't want to do it. 280 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: I really am not Anthony Bourdain right right, it's a 281 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: superhero and adventurer. I'm not that guy. And I do it, 282 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: and even if I don't enjoy it, I'm happy I 283 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: did it. Why because take that off the things of 284 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: not to be afraid of anymore doesn't mean I'm going 285 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: to do it. But I'm not afraid if I hadn't 286 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: to do it or you know, gun to my head. Yeah, 287 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: I've done it. Our biggest fear is the unknown. 288 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Until you do it, it is and then it's yep. 289 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: You got to get over that hump of just try 290 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: it and now you're better for it. 291 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I did a polar plunge once in Alaska and did 292 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: not want to do it. Still don't want to do it, 293 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: don't want to do it again. 294 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? But you did it and 295 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: you're happy you did it. That's a life experience that 296 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: you know. You can say I did that, and you 297 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: know what that's like, and so many people don't. And 298 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you something else. I come home from the 299 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: experience and I swear this is true. However many years ago. 300 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: That was every day since then, no matter where I 301 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: am in the world, I take a shower in the morning, 302 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: and the last thirty seconds I put it on cold. Hm. 303 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: Why it takes me right back to that? I know 304 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: there's health properties to this. Right. And by the way, 305 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: anyone listening, you forget your all your troubles. That's true, truly. 306 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't think about anything else. 307 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: I built up from ten seconds just on my head, right, 308 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: Your head can actually take it more than the rest, right, 309 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: So I try to. I still focus on my head, 310 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: but I built up to thirty seconds. Still gets on you. 311 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: But I can do it. And I not only that, 312 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: I feel incomplete if I don't do Yeah. 313 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: I love that a challenge every morning. Yeah, yeah, just 314 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: to take you back. 315 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: It's better than coffee. 316 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: Now you're up, you're awake, going back to your book. 317 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: Just try it. How was it working with your daughter 318 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: like that? 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: It's the greatest thing ever. She calls me. She goes, 320 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, you should do a kid's book. Kids like 321 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: you and you love kids. You should do it. I said, 322 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: good idea. I'll do it if you do with me. 323 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: So's She was twenty five at the time, and I 324 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: had a ball doing it. And guess what we're doing. 325 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: Three more Phil and Lil series. 326 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Excellent, Good for you. 327 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: The next one comes out in the spring and it's 328 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: called just Try It Someplace New. I take it to 329 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: Grandma's for the first time. She's afraid to sleep over 330 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: someplace new because all she knows is her bed in 331 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 2: her room. She's all the you know, it's just like 332 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: trying new foods. What if I hate it? What if 333 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: I hate it? What if I don't like it? That's 334 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: everything in life. What if I don't like it, that's 335 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: so limonade. It keeps us down, our own heads, keep 336 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: us down. 337 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 338 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: What if I don't like it? Yeah, guess what. That's 339 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: what little kids said, You're supposed to grow out of that. 340 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: It's true. I think I need to remember that sometimes 341 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: when I'm just like I dig deep and I dig down, 342 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like I don't want to I don't want 343 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: to eat that whatever it is. 344 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Now, know what else, Jenny, Or taste buds literally change 345 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: as we get older. Literally every every I forget what 346 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: the stat is, either every few years or every few months, 347 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: even all new taste buds, and some of them change, 348 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: and you're you're reacting to a memory of beats now 349 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: when you eat them. Wait a minute, they're not so bad. 350 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: That's right, They're not so bad because this is now different. 351 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Even my taste buds are evolving. That makes me happy. 352 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: I love how you in even the food world, you 353 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: share and talk a lot about feelings. From your perspective, 354 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: How are how we eat and how we live connected 355 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: to feelings? 356 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's all connected. So I give 357 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: an example. Let's say we're in Venice and where we're 358 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: in love, we're going to get married, and and we're 359 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: just it's the prime of life. You're with this person 360 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: you can you love, and you are sitting on the 361 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: canal and you're having a beautiful meal and oh look 362 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: at Venice. The boats are going by, and the sunset 363 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: is here, and you've never been happier. And the wine 364 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: is the most delicious wine either of us have ever had. 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: This wine is. So you know what, Let's buy a 366 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: case of this wine. Let's buy a case. It will 367 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: have it forever. It will always be our special wine 368 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: from Venice, memory of this place, Okay, because it's the 369 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: best wine we ever had. Go home a year later. 370 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: It's our anniverse. Let's open a bottle of that wine 371 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: from Venice. We open the wine, we decant it, we 372 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: pour it, we swirl it. Here's to you. I love you, 373 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: I love you. Taste how is it? 374 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: It's all right, it's not what I remember. 375 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: Because why we were in love on the canal in Venice, 376 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: and the scents and the sights and the sounds and 377 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: the feelings literally affected the way it tasted. Wow, that's true. 378 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: You know. I used this example because we all know 379 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: what that feels like. Everything's connected, the feeling, the sight, 380 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: the sound, smells, the call evocative. A smell is you 381 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 2: can smell it a scent and be transported like this 382 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: to a feeling. 383 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: A feeling, Right, yeah, I guess you can't. You can't 384 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: really have one without the other. It seems like the. 385 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: Greatest example ever in a movie is Ratitude. So the 386 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: critic you saw the movie, right, Yes, a critic at 387 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: the end, he's going to try the ratitude. Now the 388 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: whole movie's on the line. Here we go. He tries 389 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: the ratitude. What happens He zooms back to childhood m 390 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: where his mom made him ratitude, not this ratitude, but 391 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: ratitude and that, oh, Michael made him cry and remember 392 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: his mom and remember that feeling. 393 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what It's so great when you eat something 394 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: and it takes you back to something lost memory or. 395 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and then and the reason that's so special is 396 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: because it made you feel something that maybe you haven't 397 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: felt a long time. Yeah, I had a crazy experience. 398 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the episode we did 399 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: in Dubai, but I had a lunch with a Palestinian 400 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: woman and the world has told me. You know, you're 401 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: not supposed to be friends with Palestinian woman. Palestinian woman 402 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: is not supposed to be friends with someone like me. 403 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: We got along so great. I love this lady. She 404 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: made me food from her own hand. Her daughter's next 405 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: to me. She goes, you're gonna eat this, You're gonna 406 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: feel something. I said, listen, I'd like to feel that 407 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: it tastes good. That's good enough for me. But here 408 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: it is, and she's telling me your story to she 409 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: gives me this thing and I put it in my 410 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: mouth and I got emotional. Why it wasn't like zooming 411 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: back to my mom's kitchen because she never made anything 412 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: that tasted this good. This was special. This was like 413 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: a special effect in a movie. This was like a UFO. 414 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. I can't even explain 415 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: it to you. But sometimes this happens if you're lucky. 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: And do you know that this lady and I all 417 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: through all the troubles in the Middle East, we ride 418 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: each other, We dm each other sence, send love and 419 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: hope and peace to each other because we had this 420 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: special connection. 421 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had that connection. 422 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: Yes, So it is all about feeling. 423 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. I read that you loved. When 424 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the La Times food critic delite Jonathan Gold said that 425 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: he was trying to make all of us a little 426 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: less afraid of our neighbors, that's right, just that, I mean. 427 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: You can't you're gonna hate the guy that made you 428 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: something delicious. You're gonna hate that guy. No, you're gonna 429 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: love that guy. And you're seeing a human being for 430 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: what they have to offer, which is by the way 431 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: almost everybody. Everybody's got something to offer, I feel, and 432 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: I love cooks. First of all, I can offer that 433 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: I'm no cook, but I think chefs like me because 434 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: I love. 435 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: That you appreciate them them. Yeah, yeah, I know when 436 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: someone cooks you something, Yes, when they make you something 437 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: from scratch, there's just so much love in it, just 438 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: in it. 439 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: That's right. I swear that's what I tasted in that 440 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Palestinian woman's food. 441 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 442 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: I can't even describe it. Okay, how do you describe? 443 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: There's love in it. It's just you know it when 444 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: you have it. 445 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like salads, right, I have my ex in laws, 446 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: my nony of my daughters. Yes, she makes a salad 447 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: that she grows the lettuce in her backyard and she 448 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: makes this salad. It's just a plain salad, but it 449 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: tastes so much better than any other salad I've ever had. 450 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: Anyone that makes you a salad or a sandwich, it's 451 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: always better than anything you could make. And one of 452 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 2: the things about that I find is if you make it, 453 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: you know everything that's in it. There's no surprise. It 454 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: might be one reason I don't cook is because I 455 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: love the surprise. It's like, I'm a fan of magic, 456 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: and if I know how the trick is done, it's 457 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: not magic anymore. 458 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: No. Yeah, And there's just something about having someone make 459 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: something for you. I don't know. I love it. I 460 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: love it so much. 461 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: Why the name of the show is what it is? 462 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 463 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: It also denotes a character that can't take care of himself, 464 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: which is pretty trick. 465 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: You need somebody to cook for you or I'll die. 466 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Oh you'll die. Oh my god, Phil, this is so fun. 467 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Let's keep going, okay. In part two of this episode, 468 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the best places in the world to 469 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: eat vegan f Phil's newest adventure, and of course, his 470 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: last I Choose Me moment. 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