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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 2: I did it because I was foolish. Listen to how

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Speaker 2: to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcasts Kenny Florian, Oh

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Speaker 4: my god, you're your hosts John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: All right, Monday, April twenty third, twenty eighteen. I am

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Speaker 5: excited today. Better turn the gain down on this microphone?

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Speaker 5: Is that what they call it?

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Speaker 3: The gain?

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Speaker 5: Good to have you with us as always, Episode one

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Speaker 5: fifty three, Anakin Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hope you had a good weekend? Kid? You doing?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 7: I had a great work I had a great weekend, man,

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Speaker 7: it was awesome. Unfortunately, wasn't able to see my dad,

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Speaker 7: who turned eighty, but everything was good.

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Speaker 5: Eighty man, can you believe that eighty years old? One

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Speaker 5: of my idols you see he has he has very

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Speaker 5: few Doctor Florian has very few likes on Twitter, and

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Speaker 5: a couple of them are mine, and that's that's sort

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Speaker 5: of great pride.

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Speaker 3: He needs to tweet more often, is what he needs

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Speaker 3: to do. He does.

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Speaker 5: I think now at eighty, I think now is the

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Speaker 5: time to turn the corner start being a little bit

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Speaker 5: more active machine social media. But happy birthday, Gus, doctor Florian.

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Speaker 5: Avid listener of the Anak and Florian podcast. Crazy weekend

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Speaker 5: of UFC fights at Atlantic City, So that is going

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Speaker 5: to dominate the show today. As usual, the fights not

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Speaker 5: without a little craziness, controversy, and of course our mad

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Speaker 5: Ray Long Ago.

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Speaker 3: I can only laugh right in the middle of all

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 5: So for the second time in three weeks, we lead

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Speaker 5: off the program with the Ray Long a minute.

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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Long Go minute.

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Speaker 8: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking ships.

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Speaker 4: That's what I want, the Ray Long Go minute. D

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Speaker 4: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: You know, things were so much easier when it was just,

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Speaker 5: you know, punch a hole in this fucking chest.

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Speaker 8: I mean, oh man, dude, is this a big joke?

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Speaker 8: Is this is this? Is this a bad joke on me?

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Speaker 8: What what? What the fuck?

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Speaker 9: They're setting they're setting you up ray? What's going on, Kenny?

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Speaker 9: Come on man, It's got to be something. But first

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Speaker 9: of all, I'd like to thank the New Jersey State athletically.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely fucking nothing. I cannot believe what's going on. But

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Speaker 9: here we go again, you know, here we go again.

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Speaker 5: Well, obviously you have a case, and you and I

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Speaker 5: have talked about this off the air. And when I

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Speaker 5: say a case, I don't mean for any appeal because

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Speaker 5: I think, as you put it, you're sort of dealing

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Speaker 5: with a dictatorship here. But I just want to set

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Speaker 5: up the facts just in case some of our listeners

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Speaker 5: aren't aware.

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Speaker 3: So a fight between your guy, Morob de.

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Speaker 5: Vilish billy, devolish billy, excuse me, and Ricky Simone and

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Speaker 5: the fight goes the distance. The referee does not stop

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Speaker 5: the fight during this fight, even though most people seem

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Speaker 5: to believe that at one point Morob did lose consciousness

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Speaker 5: or go out, And then after the fact seemed like

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Speaker 5: it wasn't the referee making the decision. A commissioner of

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Speaker 5: some kind came in the doctors flattened your guy out.

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Speaker 3: As I watched the replay ten times this morning.

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Speaker 6: Rare.

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Speaker 5: They wouldn't let him get back up, and then all

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Speaker 5: win for the other guy. I know they called it

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Speaker 5: a TKO, but that's sort of splitting hairs. I guess

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Speaker 5: the point is, I feel like, in some respects, your

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Speaker 8: No, it's unequivocally, you're unequivocally right. It's another injustice to

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Speaker 8: what he told me. Let me just go through the

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Speaker 8: string of events. He said. When he got taken down,

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Speaker 8: he remembers, you know, the bout Liam Kerrigan stops about

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Speaker 8: like he should do, and that's it. It goes to

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Speaker 8: Simon go on the tape he's out, and then Marob

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Speaker 8: responds right away, no I'm not. But he told me

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Speaker 8: So he knew the fight was over when the ref

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Speaker 8: he goes to get up. Your seas a little wobbly,

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Speaker 8: but he gets to all fours. The doctors come in,

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Speaker 8: they tell him to lay down. He lays down, and

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Speaker 8: then you know, they're telling me now that the ref,

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Speaker 8: When I went to talk to Liam, I said, just

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Speaker 8: tell me what you take it. I'm not allowed to

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Speaker 8: talk to you I go based on what he goes.

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Speaker 8: Nick Lumbo will not let me talk, so I go.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Adolf Hitler's not letting you talk. How you

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Speaker 8: want to lead your life? Like you want to work

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Speaker 8: for somebody who you're petrified of that you're not allowed

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Speaker 8: Then I see Mark got It who at least was

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Speaker 8: respect him for that. And again, dude, this is like

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Speaker 8: If you make a shitty call, it's a shitty call.

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Speaker 8: I've never had any love loss with with Dan Migliotti,

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Speaker 8: If I think it's right, I'm gonna say something. So basically, God,

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Speaker 8: it tells me he made the decision that the fight

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Speaker 3: He told you that in the moment, said to you that.

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Speaker 8: He said, definitely said autistic mind. I didn't know what

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Speaker 8: He was glad that he was there to set the

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Speaker 8: Nick Lumbo said Morob was out. It was very clear

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Speaker 8: Liam couldn't tell. But the people at Kate's side, they

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Speaker 3: Well, wait a secon But but here's the thing. How again,

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Speaker 8: Was clear at Kate side he was unconscious, and I

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Speaker 8: know we've had fucking kit. If you don't look this

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Speaker 5: Tell right right that right, I think a lot of

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Speaker 8: You cannot determine that these guys are it's a it's

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Speaker 8: a it's again, it's a kangaroo court. They're gonna hear

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Speaker 8: spind it. You can't call the fight off thirty seconds

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Speaker 7: Well, here's the problem with this ray is that let's

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Speaker 7: briefly for him my second in the second round, right,

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Speaker 7: where do you stop this?

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Speaker 8: Where do you stop? It's? Right? Was Kevin Lee conscious

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Speaker 8: ten thousand people? Right? You want to move his legs

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Speaker 8: like that? He was doing dance fever on purpose.

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Speaker 7: Right, it's a weird. It's setting a weird precedent. And

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Speaker 8: Conscious decision with his life, with his life that he

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Speaker 8: I mean, and if he wasn't conscious, cool the fucking fight.

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Speaker 8: Stop the fight? Well, right, I thought he was unconscious.

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Speaker 8: You're right there, Stop the fight, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: It's it's actually retarded, it really is, and it you know,

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Speaker 8: and I got you know, a couple of lawyers reached

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Speaker 8: like that because it's not really me. But they're like,

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Speaker 8: this is horrible, you know what I mean, it's really bad.

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Speaker 8: And I'm like, you know, the more I start talking about,

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Speaker 8: while the ref who should be making the call and

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Speaker 8: talking to everybody is silenced by a dictator. Hey, this

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Speaker 8: is crazy. Why can't you talk man to man was

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Speaker 8: sitting here. I'm not. It wasn't like a like a

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Speaker 8: basically told me that you know, you know, Nick, I mean,

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Speaker 8: this guy will lose his job if he opens his mouth.

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Speaker 8: I didn't even want to put him on the spot.

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Speaker 8: At the end, I was like, dude, I'm with you.

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Speaker 8: Exactly, and it's really really bad. That guy made a

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Speaker 8: I watched the way he handles himself. He's grateful to be.

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Speaker 8: After the bell rings, that's what you want to do.

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Speaker 8: You're not making sense. He'd never tried to remove any hooks.

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Speaker 5: Well, I went back and watched it. Yeah, good, just

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Speaker 5: He was kicking his legs because that, in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: So I'm more on your side having watched this a bunch.

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Speaker 7: But it's weird that a referee can stop the fight

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Speaker 7: No one can, No one can really explain that when

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Speaker 3: The referee stopped the fight.

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Speaker 8: Nothing they do makes logical sense, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're gonna stick up for each other. I

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Speaker 5: Right You're not gonna get a referee to go on

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Speaker 3: They would have stopped the fight at that fifty.

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Speaker 5: Four second mark because Liam didn't and they want to

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Speaker 3: I have a million questions.

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Speaker 8: Why is the guy not allowed to talk?

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Speaker 7: You can't stop a fight because of the time ending

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Speaker 7: know what, at a one minute and thirty three seconds

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Speaker 7: of the third round, I thought you were knocked out.

435
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Speaker 7: Someone from outside the cage came in and told me

436
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Speaker 7: that you were knocked out.

437
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Speaker 3: So you know what, Sorry, dude, you lost the fight.

438
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Speaker 8: And again, you can't have to save by the bell

439
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 8: is an old boxing thing. If you get knocked down

440
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Speaker 8: and there's five seconds to go and you gotta survive

441
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 8: the ten count, you can't. That makes sense, right, You

442
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 8: can't get saved by the bell. He didn't get saved

443
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Speaker 8: by the bell. He purposely made a decision to wait

444
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Speaker 8: for the guy to separate him and then take a break. Period. Correct,

445
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 8: there's no argument he's getting choked for fifty seconds, get

446
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Speaker 8: the doctors in, then make sure he's all right. He survived,

447
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 8: and the story.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was conscious at the end of the fighting.

449
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Speaker 8: That I'm saying, if Liam waved it off, thirty seconds

450
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 8: after the fight was involuntary. That just he thought it was.

451
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 8: The fight was still going on and he's just doing

452
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Speaker 8: what he normally did.

453
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Speaker 7: And John there needs there needs to be He's some

454
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Speaker 7: kind of clarification, something definitive, because I don't see anything

455
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Speaker 7: in the rules. I don't see anything in the rules

456
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Speaker 7: that says that that can happen or that can't happen,

457
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Speaker 7: Like make it consistent and make it known to the

458
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Speaker 7: fighters and the coaches first and foremost.

459
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Speaker 3: And how about the fans watching that? I go, what

460
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Speaker 3: the hell was that?

461
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Speaker 1: Right?

462
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Speaker 3: What am I watching?

463
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Speaker 8: Look? And nobody knows what's going on with these guys,

464
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Speaker 8: And just to show you that I'm fair and I'm not,

465
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Speaker 8: you know, I give a shit anyway. But you know,

466
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Speaker 8: even like with that two hands down, like they they

467
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Speaker 8: went to the one hand down, I think it worked

468
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Speaker 8: great that night. You see guys going to knee but

469
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Speaker 8: they stopped because they see the handdowns. So I think

470
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna applaud them on that. I think that's still

471
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Speaker 8: a good rule with the one hand down. So it's not, well, we.

472
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Speaker 7: Know the rule, great, Ray, we actually know the rule,

473
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, at least you may not

474
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Speaker 7: agree with it, but we know the rule for this.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't even know what's going on.

476
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Speaker 8: Believe Mark got had led me to believe he was

477
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Speaker 8: the only guy that knew the rule. He said, Nick

478
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Speaker 8: didn't know. He was glad he was there to tell

479
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Speaker 8: him what the rule was. That is the guy who

480
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Speaker 8: I thought the rules in New Jersey. I thought he

481
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Speaker 8: was the guy that was behind making the rules. But

482
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Speaker 8: Mark God had made the decision for him.

483
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I.

484
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Speaker 8: Mean, I really don't. And if I'm wrong, Mark, you know,

485
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 8: you know, come on and tell me I was wrong.

486
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Speaker 8: But I mean, I think you did say you had

487
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Speaker 8: an autistic mind. I don't know if that means you

488
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 8: have autism. I don't know what that means.

489
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Speaker 3: But yeah, well no, if he's autistic.

490
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Speaker 8: But I think Widman was right there, and I did

491
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Speaker 8: try to get him. And again, I do appreciate the

492
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Speaker 8: guy even coming over and talking. Seems like it seems

493
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Speaker 8: like a decent dude. But I can't agree with him.

494
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Speaker 8: That's that's the problem. I don't care if he's my brother,

495
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Speaker 8: I can't agree with him.

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Speaker 5: Well, the last thing I'll say on this is that

497
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Speaker 5: if my eyes are accurate. It seemed to me like

498
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Speaker 5: the doctors laid Morab back down and they called the

499
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Speaker 5: fight against him shortly thereafter.

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Speaker 3: It's just a bizarre sequence.

501
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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know, those overhead cameras might

502
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Speaker 5: tell tell a different story, but the whole thing just

503
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Speaker 5: seems totally bizarre. And Kenny, to your point, there are

504
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 5: a lot of different cases in UFC history where there

505
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Speaker 5: are guys at the end of a round. I mean,

506
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 5: this ear opening up a huge can here. You know,

507
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Hey, so next time, yeah, I know, listen, and next

509
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Speaker 7: time someone gets knocked out and someone gets knocked down,

510
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Speaker 7: or a round ends.

511
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Speaker 3: And both guys are exhausted or whatever it is. If

512
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Speaker 3: a doctor comes in and holds you down, them.

513
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 7: Means you lost the fight. The doctor can pinion for

514
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Speaker 7: the win. What's going on?

515
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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think. I don't think that they're

516
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Speaker 8: passing it off on the doctors because it's too far

517
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Speaker 8: after the fight was over. Yeah, you know, they have

518
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 8: to assess the guy. So I don't think they're stupid

519
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 8: enough to do that. But I'm saying, Lee, Liam, I

520
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Speaker 8: don't think I was lit to believe Liam did not

521
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Speaker 8: make that call. God had told me it was absolutely him.

522
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Speaker 8: I think he made that very clear that well, and

523
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Speaker 8: he was happy he was there because nobody else knew

524
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Speaker 8: the rule. Well.

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Speaker 5: Even if the overhead camera shows that Liam waved his arms,

526
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Speaker 5: it was probably after a conversation with someone that strong

527
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Speaker 5: armed him to do it. And again, you know, we

528
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: lightly Kenny obviously when it comes to criticizing anybody, athletic commissions, referees,

529
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Speaker 5: certainly fighters, right, we have a lot of respect for

530
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Speaker 5: everybody involved in the sport. Out of these jobs are easy.

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Speaker 5: But gave us an opening segment here. All right, we

532
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Speaker 5: got aljoh on five minutes, so I gotta get your

533
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Speaker 5: thoughts on on.

534
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, what do you got real quick?

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Speaker 8: I want to applaud the UFC. They did give him

536
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Speaker 8: the fight a night bonus, and I think this is

537
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Speaker 8: an example of you got to take things into your

538
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Speaker 8: own man. I think these athletic commissions now, let them

539
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Speaker 8: be like Uncle Junior and the soprons. Let them think

540
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Speaker 8: that they're working stuff. I think Dana made a statement

541
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Speaker 8: when they wouldn't let out fight for the title because

542
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Speaker 8: the two wounds they said web Winsors. I mean I

543
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 8: think we you know, wever Winsor's fight is the champion.

544
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 8: I think we all as fans and and and everybody

545
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 8: else has to just take it in and let them

546
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Speaker 8: think that they're doing something because they're really not. They're

547
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Speaker 8: really they don't do anything they say they're going to do.

548
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Speaker 8: If they were there to protect that fight, Morob, that

549
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 8: fight would have been stopped if they thought that guy

550
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 8: was out and you didn't stop it did. Shame on you, buddy,

551
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, you were right there. You

552
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Speaker 8: knew the guy wasn't out right.

553
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 5: I have a tweet right here from one of our listeners.

554
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 5: They're there to protect the fighters, not change outcomes of fights.

555
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 5: No protecting the fighters involved here zero. It's not their

556
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 5: job they and they'll.

557
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Speaker 8: Go no where they're to protect. They there to do shit.

558
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 8: It's a fucking right fest. They want to be right.

559
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 8: This guy wants to be right against the other guy

560
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 8: in the ABC. Now it's a shit show, buddy, It's

561
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 8: a fucking shit show that if the public actually knew

562
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 8: what was going on, they would be disgusted with these guys.

563
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 8: That disgusted. It's not even about make it. It's not

564
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 8: even about money, it's about ego. Who's right, who's wrong,

565
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 8: who's right, letters, who's chance? Oh my god, you have

566
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 8: no idea what's going on, and they keep it that

567
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 8: way so that everybody's in the freaking.

568
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Speaker 3: Dog It's crazy, man.

569
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Speaker 6: All right.

570
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Speaker 3: Well, let's end on a little bit of a lighter note.

571
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Speaker 5: Matt Sarah twenty eighteen UFC Hall of Fame and the

572
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Speaker 5: man who's going to induct him. I just wanted to

573
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Speaker 5: know if you've started on your speech, because you are,

574
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Speaker 5: you are the powerful induct tour, the guy who is

575
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Speaker 5: gonna introduce and induct Matt Sarah into the Hall.

576
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Speaker 3: You're getting started.

577
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Speaker 8: I gotta tell you, I definitely am getting started. I'm

578
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 8: thinking of some of the old stories. And again, it's

579
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 8: twenty five years I know this guy. Couldn't be happy

580
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 8: for a guy again, what a good dude man. When

581
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 8: I met him, it's twenty five years ago. We've been

582
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 8: laughing ever since. It's been a great ride. And I'm

583
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 8: so psyched to induct this guy into the Hall of

584
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Speaker 8: Fame because you know, we've been through thick and thin together,

585
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 8: and you know we always handled everything with a sense

586
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 8: of humor and I love the guy man and always

587
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 8: went in to fight. But even in his losses, Man,

588
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 8: he took it like a man. He never blamed everybody, anybody.

589
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 8: He was always culpable, you know, win to lose, and

590
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 8: that's what I respect about him. He makes the right

591
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Speaker 8: call at the right time. I got some really good

592
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Speaker 8: stories I'm going to share, and I'm really psyched for this, man,

593
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 8: I really am.

594
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Speaker 5: Well, you guys are gonna steal the show pressures off

595
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Speaker 5: of the host man. I can't wait for long go

596
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 5: speech and Matt's speech to follow. Congratulations on that big

597
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 5: win for al Joe. We're going to talk to him somebody, And.

598
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 8: The fact that somebody is stupid enough to hand me

599
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Speaker 8: the mike, look shame.

600
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Speaker 3: On that, I'm telling that.

601
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I can be sure. You can be sure

602
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 5: it will not be live on FS one. It'll be

603
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: tape delayed so they can fucking clean up your act.

604
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 8: No, it's all good. As I'm talking, I'm actually thinking

605
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 8: of more stories. I got a pen in my head

606
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 8: to write it down so I don't forget it.

607
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Speaker 7: Send a hug to Sarah on my behalf man. That's awesome,

608
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 7: well deserved.

609
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 8: All right, guys, and again, I hope we get to

610
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Speaker 8: the bottom of this. This is a great kid who

611
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 8: loves being in America who they really wronged. And I

612
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 8: think it's it's a it's a tragedy, it really is.

613
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 8: For no reason, just go to the score cards, let

614
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 8: let the judges decide what happened, or call the fight

615
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 8: off before and I think it's very simple, no reason

616
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 8: after he separated those guys for any other discussion except

617
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Speaker 8: to make sure Morob was alright. And that's it, period.

618
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 8: I don't think it's I think it's a no brainer.

619
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Speaker 8: I hope they find some integrity and they and they

620
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Speaker 8: overturn this decision and let them do it again. If

621
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Speaker 8: that's what Ricky Simon wants and that's what Morob, let

622
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 8: them fight again, you know serious.

623
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Speaker 5: I think a rematch makes a lot of sense. All right, man, Well,

624
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 5: hopefully we gave you enough of a platform to share

625
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 5: your thoughts today.

626
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: Great job and keep us posted on your progress.

627
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 5: Man, have a good week, and congrats on what overall

628
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: was a big night for fifteen Sarah.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you so. I'm so proud of these guys,

630
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 8: especially even with Algier, but last three fights, everybody came

631
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 8: to fight. They're proven that these guys are tough as nails,

632
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 8: they trained the right way, they really put it on

633
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 8: the line, and I really believe Al's performance with Kabeb

634
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 8: inspired both of these guys to go out there and

635
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 8: just fight to the fullest potential they have. And that's

636
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 8: what they did, and I think they should be commended

637
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 8: for it. As a coach, I can't ask for one

638
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 8: other thing than that. I'm so proud of the last

639
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 8: three fights, even though you know two of them didn't

640
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 8: you know, one of I mean one of them didn't

641
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 8: go our way and the other one we got robbed.

642
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 8: But it's just a it's a pleasure to be around

643
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 8: these guys and watch them grow and literally, like again,

644
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 8: fight to their fullest potential. And again there's still a

645
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 8: lot of room for growth. Morob has to changee a

646
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 8: couple of things. Obviously, he's a jugging out and Al

647
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 8: Joe's I think, just starting to get the hang of it,

648
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 8: which is great because when he opens up, it's gonna

649
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 8: be a it's gonna be a great time. So hats

650
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Speaker 8: off that I quin the Morob and and Al Joe.

651
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 8: I think they did the team solid by showing that

652
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 8: Long Island. There's a bunch of tough motherfuckers, man.

653
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: Ah, no doubt about it, man. And they're keeping long

654
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: Ago young and keeping Ray Long in the game. He

655
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 5: never did, we think, just went out when I wanted

656
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: to get out.

657
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: These guys sucking you right back. We'll let you, We'll

658
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: let you get out of it.

659
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 7: Ray. Congrats man, good stuff. You didn't get robbed. You gotrobbed.

660
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 3: The guy should be too.

661
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Speaker 8: And oh in the UFC, congrats to your father man,

662
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 8: he looks great. That's unbelievable. I meant the comment on

663
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 8: that picture, I'll do it now.

664
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Speaker 3: Thanks awesome.

665
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Speaker 8: Body take it easy.

666
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 5: Ray longo minute. I mean give Ken Flow the like

667
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Speaker 5: on the picture of the docs.

668
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 3: You know so.

669
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Speaker 5: Jason Smith, one of our listeners, wrote on Twitter, I'm

670
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: not scandalized by the outcome, but that's because Debolish Villy

671
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: was out from the takedown in his opinion, right, So

672
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: I can understand that line of thinking, and largely I agree.

673
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 5: I'm not scandalized or losing sleep anymore. I guess over

674
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 5: the outcome because ultimately a referee error allowed Morob Debolish

675
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 5: Billy to stay in the fight. Right if you stop

676
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: the fight after that takedown attempt when to most of

677
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: our eyes he was unconscious. Then Ricky Simone is the winner. Anyway,

678
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: I just have a major problem with the way this

679
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: fight was handled at the end of it. And it's

680
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 5: not just because Rey Longo is on our podcast every week.

681
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 5: So I guess we'll leave it at that unless you

682
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: have anything else can flow. But just a crazy and

683
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: he mentioned too, I mean, Morab Debolish Villis is zero

684
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: to two in the UFC and should be two. And

685
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: oh and I know the fifty thousand dollars bonus is nice,

686
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: but in terms of career trajectory, you lose a split

687
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 5: decision in your first fight, you technically, well not technically,

688
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 5: you win a split decision this night, and it's sort

689
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 5: of pulled out from underneath you. So just crazy, man,

690
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 5: I mean, just a weird, weird situation. And in our sport,

691
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: like we're so conditioned to the fact that we know

692
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: we haven't seen it all, right, the whole cliche, Oh

693
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 5: just when you think you've seen it all, But in

694
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: this sport, especially as a broadcaster, like selfishly, I'm sitting

695
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: in my bedroom watching this fight card thinking like I'm

696
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 5: glad I'm not working tonight because I had no idea

697
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: what the fuck's going on?

698
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Speaker 7: Right, And the big thing, man, is that it sets

699
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 7: a very dangerous precedent that if this is how we're

700
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 7: going to judge fights going forward, to this is how

701
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 7: we're going to determine who want to fight. If we

702
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 7: think or someone outside of the octagon thinks that someone

703
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 7: was knocked out right or wrong, and they come back,

704
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 7: you know, they get you know, get their wits back

705
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 7: or whatever, and the fight ends, and then you know

706
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 7: they're continually doing this.

707
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what to think of.

708
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 7: This is kind of a weird, a weird thing, right,

709
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 7: you know, Pat Barry and Chichkongo. If Chick Congo didn't

710
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 7: knock out Pat Barry, are they going to go back

711
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 7: and say, hey, listen, you know we thought that Congo

712
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 7: was out in that fight.

713
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: He lost that.

714
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: I know.

715
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: It's just I don't understand it.

716
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 7: If that's the rule, if that's the way they're going

717
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 7: to be doing this going forward, I don't agree with it.

718
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's a great example because if replay was

719
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: in effect that night, Yeah, then Pat Barry wins that

720
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: fight because they go back and look at the replay,

721
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 5: and then the replay you'll see Dan Murgliato. No, maybe

722
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 5: it was Herb Dean. I think I keep getting that

723
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: refereetion for but stuff the referee. But even further, Kenny, right,

724
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: he makes contact with Pat like he touched Pat, so

725
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 5: Pat backed up. I mean that was one of the

726
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: all time biggest robberies that I've ever seen in Congo.

727
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: Of course, rally from there to knock out Pat Barry,

728
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 5: and we still talk to Pat Barry about that.

729
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: We're waiting on Aljamaine Sterling.

730
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 5: You want to talk about Kevin Lee for a minute,

731
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: Let's do it sort of okay, I mean, how about

732
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: this guy man? And I know we are going to

733
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: get to the fact that he weigh one hundred and

734
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 5: fifty seven pounds and that I think for a top

735
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: level contender at this point largely in it excusable. The

736
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: waight cut starts months ago, as Michael Chandler wisely pointed

737
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 5: out on Twitter. But Kenny, this is a hell of

738
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: a fighter and an outstanding athlete, and to take out

739
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: the best striker in the division in this way, I

740
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 5: think proved to a lot of people that Kevin Lee

741
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: was no One hit wonder deserved to fight Tony Ferguson

742
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: for the interim belt and it's probably gonna get himself

743
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: back to a championship situation here. This is a special

744
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 5: fighter in my eyes after what we saw Saturday night, and.

745
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 7: Especially given Habib's performance over Edson Barbosa, where you know,

746
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 7: people were having a conniption over you know what Habib

747
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 7: did and the kind of pressure that he was.

748
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: How about a.

749
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 7: Guy in Kevin Lee who put a similar kind of

750
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 7: pressure was able to get superior positions repeatedly on Edson

751
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 7: Barbosa and showed much cleaner striking than Habib Namaga manoff, right,

752
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 7: And I'm not sure if he's the same kind of

753
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 7: wrestler or whatever that maybe does the same kind of

754
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 7: ground pound, but it's very similar. It was the same pressure,

755
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 7: and there's no doubt about it that Kevin Lee is

756
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 7: a far superior striker than Habib Normoga Madoff.

757
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, It's interesting and that was my takeaway largely,

758
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: and I thought he showed some evolution in the striking game.

759
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: The jab was there, and just the physicality in taking

760
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 5: Edson Barboza down and again Edson Barbosa coming up on

761
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: twenty UFC fights and thirteen UFC wins, this has got

762
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 5: to be a tough pill Kenny for him to swallow.

763
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: I would think you look at his last three losses

764
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 5: against top flight competition called Bibnrmaugo Metov, Tony Ferguson and

765
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: of course Kevin Lee, and he may go down as

766
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 5: one of the best lightweights to never fight for a

767
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: UFC title. He's lost three of his last four. I

768
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 5: believe it may not even be that much. But when

769
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: he's been up against the elite guys and they've been

770
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: able to mix the martial arts the way Kevin Lee did,

771
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: he just hasn't had a lot of answers.

772
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for Edson, he's a tremendous striker.

773
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 7: You know, fundamentally, when he throws a certain strike, there's

774
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 7: no one who does.

775
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: It better than Edson. It comes down to footwork.

776
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 7: For me, is that Kevin Lee was able to back

777
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 7: him up more often than not in a straight line,

778
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 7: and that's not necessarily that's Kevin Lee's pressure, of course,

779
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 7: But Edson Barbosa when he uses lateral movement, wasn't establishing

780
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 7: a jab as he went laterally as he moved laterally,

781
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 7: So from that position, Kevin Lee is able to close

782
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 7: that gap repeatedly. And as good as Edson is as

783
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 7: a striker, he can be better with just some simple

784
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 7: ideas as far as his fork and how he utilizes

785
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 7: his range to keep guys off of them. And sometimes

786
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 7: he kind of gets complacent and stays in the pocket

787
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 7: when he doesn't need to, or he backs straight up.

788
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying from the outside end.

789
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 7: Of course, you know, can his grappling be better, sure, absolutely,

790
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 7: But you know a lot of times he was tying

791
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 7: himself into the game with Kevin Lane, of course, so

792
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 7: I'm sure we're gonna I don't know if you want

793
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 7: to talk about it later. I don't know if Aljo

794
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 7: is waiting for us. But when he had Kevin hurt,

795
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 7: you know, when you're losing a fight, you're waiting for

796
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 7: that one chance, that one chance to take a guy

797
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 7: out and hurt him. Well, he got that chance. That

798
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 7: wheelkick was just phenomenal. It hit him right on the temple.

799
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 7: It rocked Kevin Lee. What does he do? You finish

800
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 7: him off for strikes right right? No, he did not.

801
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 7: He decided to get that front headlock I don't know

802
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 7: if he was looking for a dars or a guillotine,

803
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 7: but what he did is he connected himself to Kevin Lee.

804
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 7: The one thing that Kevin Lee wanted there was for

805
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 7: Edson Barbosa to just grab him, or for him to

806
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 7: grab Edson Barbosa. He just lost his chance. So it

807
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 7: was unfortunate heat of the moment. You get excited, you're emotional,

808
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 7: you're tired, you're not thinking. Clearly unfortunate there for Edson.

809
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 7: But again a credit to Kevin Lee who really was

810
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 7: dominating that performance. Aside from that getting hit from that

811
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 7: spinning wheel, kick boy was that special. He put on

812
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure and again re established himself as

813
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 7: one of the top lay weights.

814
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 5: All Right, we'll get back to Kevin Lee and Edson

815
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: Barboza in a minute, but now with us on the

816
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: guest line. He is the number eight rank bandam Waight

817
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 5: in the world, likely moving up after a big win

818
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: over the weekend as he bounces Brett Johns from the

819
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 5: ranks of the unbeaten. The funk Master al Jamine Sterling

820
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 5: is with us. He is looking good. What's up, my man,

821
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 5: Congrats on a big w How are.

822
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 10: You feeling feeling good, feeling great, I'm feeling funky.

823
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: Well, dude, I'm happy for you, man.

824
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: I gotta think those Al Joe chants at Boardwalk Hall

825
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 5: was a pretty special feeling for you Saturday night.

826
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did actually hear that while I was in

827
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 6: the octagon. It was pretty cool.

828
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 10: We had a pretty big crowd coming out to support

829
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 10: the team Funk Bennetts.

830
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 6: We were forced.

831
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 5: So I gotta think these are some of the best

832
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: of times as a fighter, right the week after fight

833
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 5: week after a big win. I mean, it doesn't look

834
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 5: like you're training today, Like what is this week hold

835
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: for you? After a long training camp in a big win.

836
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of happy hour spots.

837
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 10: I've been meaning to get you for a very long

838
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 10: time now, you know, just as the usual, I'm still

839
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 10: looking at new endeavors.

840
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 6: I'm actually just finished my real estate course.

841
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 10: I'm waiting to see what my test scores were for

842
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 10: my FD and Y exam, to see if I got

843
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 10: into the academy or not. And uh, kind of just

844
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 10: just looking onwards. Enough words with life, you know, you know,

845
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 10: fighting is a means to an end.

846
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 6: I just gotta use it as a.

847
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 10: Way to get me to where I want to be

848
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 10: and outside of that, you know.

849
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: Life goes on. So it's kind of where we're at

850
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 6: right now.

851
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 10: I'm definitely gonna be having myself a few drinks this

852
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 10: entire week. I'm going to dr this Sunday for about

853
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 10: six days with the ladies.

854
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 6: So yeah, man, it's time to relax and unwind a

855
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: little bit.

856
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 10: Wanna lose, man, you gotta be able to take some

857
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 10: time out for yourself. And this is such a grooling sport.

858
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 10: People who think we have the best lifestyle. But the

859
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 10: train that goes into this, that comes with it, the

860
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 10: highs and lows. Man, it's uh, you have to have

861
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 10: balance in it because it could be one that can

862
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 10: really drain you and take the fun out.

863
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 8: Of the sport.

864
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 5: No, and I hear that, and you seem to be

865
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 5: in the shape of your life. You didn't need that

866
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: stool between rounds. But as for this fight, I mean,

867
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: Brett Johns came in fifteen to zero. He's talented, he's physical.

868
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: You dominated the fight. I went back and watched it

869
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: this morning. He did not get a lot of things

870
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: done in this fight. Was this the type of fight

871
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: that you expected?

872
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: I didn't know what to expect.

873
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 10: I thought, I know Brett Jones was a tough dude,

874
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 10: super tough on top if he gets you down. I

875
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 10: know he had a couple of tricks in the jiu

876
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 10: jitsu department.

877
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 6: So I didn't want to give him too many opportunities.

878
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 10: To really explore those those rounds of seeing where we

879
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 10: match up.

880
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 6: The one time he did shoot in and he.

881
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 10: Got to my legs, got in on a deep shot,

882
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 10: and I stuffed the position. In the back of my head,

883
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 10: I already knew him, like, Yo, Chris, why don't you

884
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 10: close the door, whitman?

885
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 6: But he shoots in, he gets in on my legs, and.

886
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 10: I stuffed the position like it's just one of those

887
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 10: things where we do it over and.

888
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 6: Over and over.

889
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 10: I knew he wasn't gonna get this.

890
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 7: Jesus, he's always see he's always stealing the limelight.

891
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: Oh, man, one after the next, Get Longo out of here.

892
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 6: Did you turn the music open?

893
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 8: Here?

894
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 6: Oh? The music is open?

895
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 8: All right?

896
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 6: Let me go in this room, Chris. Chris is giving

897
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 6: me the boot, maybe because of his gym.

898
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess that'd be a good reason. We got

899
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: to talk to Wiman to let that scar heel first, I.

900
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 6: Think, yeah, but uh, I think, I think. I think

901
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 6: I did a lot.

902
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 10: Of good things though, shut down a lot of his

903
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 10: games and the stuff that he wanted to get done.

904
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 10: And and uh, the funk prevailed.

905
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 6: I was loud in here too, Man, the funk.

906
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 7: The funk did prevail. Man Al Joe, What what was you?

907
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 7: Where was your head at? I mean, you were coming

908
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 7: off a loss against Marla Marice. You know, you were

909
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 7: facing an undefeated fighter and Brett Johns. How hard was

910
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 7: it for you to come back after that fight? After

911
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 7: that fight against Marice?

912
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 8: Uh?

913
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: It was.

914
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 6: It was an interesting one.

915
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 8: You know.

916
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 6: I never thought I'd be that guy whoever got finished

917
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 6: And here I was.

918
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 10: Staring at that and it was a very interesting time

919
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 10: in my life.

920
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: You know. I try to keeping perspective. It's not like

921
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 6: I went out there and got out class. I had

922
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: to just keep everything. But what it was, I went

923
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 6: out there, I made.

924
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 10: A mistake, I rushed to finish, and I paid the

925
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 10: ultimate price in the sport, which is a knockout. You know,

926
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 10: nobody wants to get separated from the consciousness on national

927
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 10: TV in front of millions of people.

928
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 6: On replay over and over again. I'm gonna have to

929
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 6: see that on.

930
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 10: His highlights every single time he gets ready to fight,

931
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 10: you know. So it's just one of those things. But

932
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 10: it comes with the sport. And that's just pretty much

933
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 10: what I what I told myself. It is what it

934
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 10: is in the past, it's.

935
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: Done already, we're here. Now what do we.

936
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 10: Do to get passes and what we do to move

937
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 10: forward and how we make sure that never happens again?

938
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 6: And focus, man, what I've been doing my entire career. Focus.

939
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 10: I lost focus in that fight. And yeah, man, it

940
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 10: wasn't it wasn't a good turnout, but skill for skill,

941
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 10: I think he had his moments on the feet. I

942
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 10: had my moments on the ground, and he rocked me

943
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 10: by hitting me behind the ear.

944
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 6: I lost my equilibrium.

945
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 10: I wasn't hurt, I wasn't cloudy or nothing, just lost

946
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 10: my balance and I was still able to latch on

947
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 10: that freaking submission.

948
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 6: Like a spider monkey.

949
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 10: And and that just I think that just shows my

950
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 10: capabilities on the ground. I think when I get anybody

951
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 10: on the ground, I have my way with him.

952
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 6: So I would love to get that one back.

953
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 7: It was a smart approach moving forward, man, And moving forward,

954
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 7: Who do you want next?

955
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 3: Is there is there a fighter in mind?

956
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, of course there's a fighter. I want Dominic Cruise.

957
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 10: And people say it doesn't make a lot of sense.

958
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 10: You should fight John dottson one. Who gives a can

959
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 10: I curse on this thing? Because fuck about John Dotson,

960
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 10: Like he doesn't fight the guy. You chase him around

961
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 10: for three rounds and he gets split decisions every single time.

962
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 10: He's not He's not a fun fight, and he's not

963
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 10: a fight. I'm looking to entertained whatsoever right now. If

964
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 10: that's the only option on.

965
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 6: The table, will I take it?

966
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I think there's more fun entertaining fights. I

967
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 10: would rather take a fight outside the top ten too.

968
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 10: It could be completely honest and take that fight because

969
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 10: I'm not sitting here to try to play the patient

970
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 10: game with the guy for fifteen minutes. There's nothing, nothing's

971
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 10: gonna happen because I'm not gonna rush into his game

972
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 10: plan and he's not gonna rush into mines.

973
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 8: So what are we doing here?

974
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 10: We're just gonna stand there and look at each other

975
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 10: for fifteen minutes. Nah, I'd rather pass. But Dominic Cruz,

976
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 10: he doesn't have a fight everybody else in the top

977
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 10: five is booked up. I want to fight all the

978
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 10: best guys in this division. It's not a knock on Cruise.

979
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 10: I think he's gonna look at this fight as, oh well,

980
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 10: he can't.

981
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 6: Knock me out.

982
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 10: Oh well, I don't think he's gonna submit me, so

983
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 10: maybe I should win. To take this fight, I could

984
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 10: take my chances win and solidify my name as a

985
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 10: top contender and get the next title shot.

986
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 6: So I think that's probably what's gonna go through his head.

987
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 6: He thinks he's gonna leap frog everybody.

988
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 10: I think.

989
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 6: He takes his fight, he's gonna be in for a

990
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 6: rude awaken the al.

991
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: Jamin is sterling with us on the Anak and Florian podcast,

992
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: and I think the fight with Dominic Cruz does make sense.

993
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 5: I don't know if he would be interested, but otherwise

994
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: you might be waiting a little bit. I mean, how

995
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 5: do you look at the timeline for the rest of

996
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. There are obviously a lot of elite bandam

997
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 5: weights competing on July seventh, so maybe that card would

998
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: make sense, so you could step into a big fight

999
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: if a Sun Sow is there needing an opponent, or

1000
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: a Cody or TJ. You also have Marlin but iceon

1001
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: Jimmy rivera June first. But I wouldn't think that would

1002
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 5: be realistic for you to try to step in for

1003
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: one of those guys if they got hurt. I mean,

1004
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: how long are you willing to sit around waiting for

1005
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: someone like Dominic Cruz.

1006
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 10: Honestly, I'm gonna take I'm just gonna fight. I want

1007
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 10: to stay busy. I want to keep one of my skills.

1008
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 10: People may think that's not the smart idea.

1009
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 6: But at this point in my career, I only have

1010
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 6: so many years left in this and I if I'm

1011
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 6: gonna make a run, I'm gonna make a run.

1012
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 10: I'm gonna And the main reason why I think the

1013
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 10: majority of us do it is to make money. The

1014
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 10: belt comes with the money. So at the end of

1015
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 10: the day, if I can make some money, keep getting

1016
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 10: better and make those little growth changes, I think by

1017
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 10: time that title shot does come around, I'll be more

1018
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 10: than ready to step up to the task and make

1019
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 10: sure my first shot will be the shot that I

1020
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 10: claim the gold.

1021
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: You've made so many great strides and a great tweet

1022
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 5: from Brian Carraway, your former opponent this weekend talking about

1023
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: your patients and poise. Last thing for me, Man, you

1024
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: seem to be so inspired, I think, more inspired than

1025
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 5: anyone by what ally Quinton was able to do and

1026
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 5: defeat against cubibnrmago Matov, and then you fought so soon thereafter.

1027
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you just went in there so confident this

1028
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: week and I'm curious how much that result and going

1029
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: through that experience as a corner man motivated you and

1030
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: helped you going in there against Brett.

1031
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 6: It was a huge motivating factor. You know, I live with,

1032
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: I train with.

1033
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 10: I know the things he does in and outside of

1034
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 10: the gym. He knows the things I do and the

1035
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 10: outside of the gym, right, you know, so we both

1036
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 10: know that we don't just kind of just talk about

1037
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 10: it while the mic is in front of us and

1038
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 10: then go out and do different things behind and nobody's watching.

1039
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 10: One of my quotes are, the difference is what I

1040
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 10: do when nobody is watching.

1041
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 6: And I truly do believe in that, because those are

1042
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 6: things that.

1043
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 10: Really make what you know, make up a champion, not

1044
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 10: when you're in the training room and coach is looking

1045
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 10: at you. Outside of the training room and coach isn't

1046
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 10: looking at you, looking after you. I think those are

1047
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 10: the big key things that define who you are. And

1048
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 10: coming off of that that, you know, even though he lost,

1049
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 10: I think he put on a stellar performance on short notice,

1050
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 10: one day's notice.

1051
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 6: He gave Kabeb all he can handle. Completely different style.

1052
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 10: I know it's a different style for Kabeb as well,

1053
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 10: but Kabeb does what Kabeb does to everybody, so there's

1054
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 10: no real change of game playing for him.

1055
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 6: But for hours, a complete through sixty of a game

1056
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 6: plan change.

1057
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 10: You know, we went from not wrestling in terms of

1058
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 10: defensively to having to stuff, you know, takedowns and address

1059
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 10: the takedowns. And if we had a little bit more

1060
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 10: time to prepare for some of those things, maybe, if

1061
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 10: it happened earlier in the week, I think we could

1062
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 10: have made a couple more adjustments that could have possibly

1063
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 10: changed the first two rounds. And if you take a

1064
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 10: way those two takedowns in the first two rounds, that's

1065
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 10: a completely different fight.

1066
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 6: I think in that fifth round and out ate.

1067
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 10: All those jabs that's where most of the damage come from,

1068
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 10: and then't come from the ground to pown you take

1069
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 10: away those jazz. He said, he was a little tired.

1070
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 10: He said he just couldn't find like that second gear

1071
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 10: a hit because he was training for a three round fight.

1072
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 10: So you give him more time and he's you know,

1073
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 10: I was kind of notorious for blocking punches of jazz

1074
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 10: with his head and his head button the fist and

1075
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 10: let you know, like, motherfucker, I'm here.

1076
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 6: I'm this New York badass and you know you're in

1077
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 6: here with me.

1078
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 10: And I think people feel something when they're in it,

1079
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 10: when when they're in there fighting out. He's a there's

1080
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 10: no quit in that guy, and he brings he brings

1081
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 10: you a crazy pace.

1082
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 6: And he's looking to put that right hand on your chin.

1083
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 6: It's like a home and missile on that right hand. Yeah,

1084
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 6: it was, It was. It was cool to be in

1085
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 6: the corner experience that walk out. I've never seen anything

1086
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 6: like that.

1087
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 10: I've never been a part of something like that, so

1088
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 10: that was huge for me. And knowing what he was

1089
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 10: able to do, I was like, man, I'm right there,

1090
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 10: I'm right there, Al's right there.

1091
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 6: We're all right there. And it just takes a little

1092
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: bit of opportunity.

1093
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 10: And making sure you're prepared at the right time that

1094
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 10: you just never know it could always be your shot,

1095
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 10: your chance, and you just got to be ready to

1096
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 10: seize the moment. And uh that that had me pumped up.

1097
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 10: And I told myself and I told me too, it's like, man,

1098
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 10: you're ready for You're gonna kill this guy.

1099
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 6: And I, you know, I had I had a.

1100
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 11: Little bit of a conflicts, confliction with myself going into

1101
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 11: this fight, just because of the last one, you know,

1102
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 11: and it took me everything to keep blocking those replays

1103
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 11: of our Can't have that happen again.

1104
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 6: Can't have that happen again. And like I said.

1105
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 10: Before, when I made one of my posts right before

1106
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 10: I think the day before the fighting, and I said, uh,

1107
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 10: the opponent isn't Brett Johns. The opponent isn't anybody. The

1108
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 10: opponent is myself, as al Jamaine Sterling. If I go

1109
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 10: out there and I defeat my demons that keep me

1110
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 10: from pulling the trigger, good things are gonna happen. And

1111
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 10: uh I did so on Saturday night, past Saturday night.

1112
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: No doubt.

1113
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: Good things are happening seven and three in the UFC.

1114
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 5: For you, you won three or your last four, and

1115
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 5: I do hope for your sake you get that. Domina

1116
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: Cruz fight next. I think you deserve it, man, I

1117
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 5: really do so. Congratulations, enjoy your time off and uh

1118
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 5: hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you before

1119
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 5: the next fight. Buddy, Thanks for the time.

1120
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 10: Definitely, I'll make sure I grab a couple of pints

1121
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 10: for you guys at the happy hour today.

1122
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 3: A baby. Congrats Shotgun.

1123
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 5: Al Jamaine Sterling joining us on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1124
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: And it was a big performance for him too.

1125
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna like watching that fight back after

1126
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: the fact. I just thought he did go for the

1127
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: finish even though it didn't materialize and threw a lot

1128
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 5: of different limbs. Physically, he has certainly added some muscle mass,

1129
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 5: and he has so much confidence in his grappling and

1130
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: in his wrestling that whenever the fight does go there,

1131
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 5: he just gets You could just tell this confidence comes

1132
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: over him.

1133
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know if he's going to get the

1134
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: Cruise fight Kenny though.

1135
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: Dom's number two in the world, and Dom is pretty

1136
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 5: selective when it comes to this next fight, and.

1137
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: Of course he hopes it's going to be for a title.

1138
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: So not sure who will be next for Aljo, but

1139
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: a big weekend for him nonetheless.

1140
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, it's gonna be tough to get a

1141
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 7: fight against Domina Cruz, but yeah, I'm sure he'd much

1142
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 7: prefer to wait for the winner of Dela Shaw and Garbrandt.

1143
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.

1144
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 8: Though.

1145
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 5: It is tricky because you have June first, Marlonde versus

1146
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 5: Jimmy Rivera and al Jo would absolutely love to get

1147
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 5: that mad Ie fight back. But prevailing wisdom is both

1148
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: of those guys are gonna, you know, be healthy enough

1149
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 5: and make weight and fight. But you heard him say

1150
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 5: at the end of the interview, you talk about being

1151
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: ready when those opportunities materialize and when you are among

1152
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: the elite. If I'm Ray Longo, I'm saying Al Joe, look, man,

1153
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: we can look at June first, or we can look

1154
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 5: at July seventh, But to me, you know, to train

1155
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 5: for one of those dates and put yourself in position.

1156
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 5: You know, halfe Ala suns how is fighting Rob Font

1157
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: at UFC two twenty six. If Rob Font gets injured

1158
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 5: and Al Joe is physically in a position to take

1159
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 5: that fight, then he gets the number three guy in

1160
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 5: the world, and then he's working towards where he wants

1161
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: to go. So sometimes it's the short notice fights for

1162
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: the top guys that end up taking.

1163
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 3: You where you want to get.

1164
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: And again, I know he's going on vacation and he's

1165
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 5: certainly earned that. But if you can somehow maximize the

1166
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 5: month of May and be ready to go in June

1167
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 5: or July, you might get that high profile opportunity that

1168
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 5: may not come from a matchmaker initially.

1169
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

1170
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, And for al Jaman, you know, listen, he I

1171
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 7: picked him as my fighter to watch. He's he's a

1172
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 7: great kid and a very good fighter. But I think

1173
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: he was a little too worked up in this fight.

1174
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 7: I thought he should have settled down a little bit more.

1175
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 7: He was kind of throwing stuff, maybe just to throw it.

1176
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 7: He was trying to stay active. And I think once

1177
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 7: he finds that middle ground of being too relaxed or

1178
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 7: maybe being too hyped up, finding that middle ground of

1179
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 7: being sharp and ready but not jittery and just throwing stuff,

1180
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 7: he needs to set stuff up a little bit better.

1181
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 7: And once he settles into that role as a striker

1182
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 7: and really gets calm in there, he's going to be

1183
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 7: that much better and it's going to be that much

1184
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 7: more difficult to beat. A guy like Sterling, So I

1185
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 7: think he's going to learn a lot from both the

1186
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 7: Mariah's fight where maybe he was a little bit too relaxed,

1187
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 7: and in this win. Anytime you can make mistakes and

1188
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 7: get a win, that's a huge thing, no, and you

1189
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 7: make a lot of good points as usual. And it

1190
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 7: brings me back to the fight and the fact that

1191
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 7: al Joe didn't sit on the stool, and I know

1192
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 7: he's done that at times throughout his career. But in

1193
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 7: terms of settling down right and controlling the breathing in

1194
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 7: between rounds, right, that's a wild corner that we all

1195
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 7: love with Matt Sarah and Ray Longo.

1196
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: But maybe in the middle of.

1197
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 5: Round settling him back in a little bit would solve

1198
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: some of those issues. But a good point. Nonetheless, back

1199
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: to Kevin Lee for a second. So you know how

1200
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 5: I feel about this fighter and this performance, but you

1201
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 5: also know how I feel about missing weight, especially for

1202
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: the guys at the elite levels. And we were in

1203
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City and Kevin Lee nearly missed waight for that

1204
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: main event against Michael Kisa that was June of last year,

1205
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 5: so he has sort of been close to missing weight

1206
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: in the past I know he hadn't before, and I

1207
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: don't think there's a stain on this win necessarily, but

1208
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 5: on the heels of what Dustin Pourrier did a week

1209
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 5: prior against Justin Gaetchee, I think that this win would

1210
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 5: resonate even more had Kevin Lee not made championship weight

1211
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 5: but just made one hundred and fifty six pounds. That

1212
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 5: being said, I don't think it's gonna work against him.

1213
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: This is going to be a lightweight win and not

1214
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 5: a catchweight win, and Kevin Lee is moving forward in

1215
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 5: this division like it or not.

1216
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 7: And we heard about the struggles obviously in the Tony

1217
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 7: Ferguson fight. You know, he did have a staff infection

1218
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 7: and had a lot of things in his personal life

1219
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 7: that was going on, so he had to deal with

1220
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 7: a lot of adversity in that one. So you know,

1221
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 7: if there was a time and not make way, we

1222
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 7: could understand that or whatever. But in this fight, I

1223
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 7: think you kind of have to be embarrassed a little

1224
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 7: bit and kind of called out to go, wait a sec,

1225
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 7: what am I doing here? Am I really doing everything

1226
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 7: possible with my nutrition, with my training to make weight

1227
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 7: and make championship weight, because that is something I'm sure

1228
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 7: that the UFC considers when they're booking these fights.

1229
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: Can this guy make weight?

1230
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 7: Are we gonna make a mistake in booking this for

1231
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 7: this big main event, for this big championship fight, And

1232
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 7: we can't rely on this guy to make one hundred

1233
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 7: and fifty five pounds or less. So you know, for him,

1234
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 7: he has to kind of looks stare that in the

1235
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 7: face and go, okay, am I being the best professional

1236
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 7: that I can be? Because you know, as Chandler said,

1237
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 7: the weight cut doesn't start the week.

1238
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: Of fight, It happens before that.

1239
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 7: What are you doing, you know, in the off season

1240
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 7: to make sure your weight isn't out of control?

1241
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 5: And I think for Dustin Poorier, right, like the calendar

1242
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 5: did not work in Poorier's favor here, right because instead

1243
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 5: of maybe the uftually having a week off after the

1244
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 5: Gaechee Whin, they have a big card in Atlantic City

1245
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: and Kevin Lee has a show stopping performance and finishes

1246
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 5: Edsen Barboza.

1247
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1248
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 5: But Friday a fight week went very well for Dustin Pourrier,

1249
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 5: who was probably thinking at one point in time, this

1250
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 5: is good, right, because if this decision does not come

1251
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 5: down to Connor McGregor or an injured Tony Ferguson. And

1252
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 5: this opponent for Kabibnrmago Matov in November comes down to

1253
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 5: Kevin Lee and Dustin Pourier. The fact that heaven Lee

1254
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: missed weight could cost him that championship opportunity. I mean,

1255
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 5: if Connor is not fighting Kabib in November, don't you

1256
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: think that the next opponent, Well, I guess Eddie Alvarez

1257
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 5: is in that mix, but it's going to be Alvarez,

1258
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 5: Lee or Poorier. And for Kevin Lee, making one hundred

1259
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 5: and fifty seven pounds could cost him a title shot.

1260
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Later this year. Absolutely agree, all.

1261
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 5: Right, So that's it on the main event. As far

1262
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 5: as the co main event is concerned. I think we're

1263
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 5: all happy to see Franki Edgar go back to New

1264
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: Jersey for the first time since two thousand and seven

1265
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 5: and get a win so soon after the first knockout

1266
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 5: loss of his career against Brian Ortega. And we know

1267
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 5: Frankie personally, so to see him walk out after the

1268
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: win with his two boys was just a very special thing.

1269
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 5: The man has spent more than or just under seven hours,

1270
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 5: I guess inside that octagon. For me, I mean, it

1271
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: was a clean performance for Frankie. It was dominant enough

1272
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 5: to get thirty to twenty sevens across the board. But

1273
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't love this rematch on paper, and

1274
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 5: I didn't love the fight. Yeah, and again this is

1275
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 5: another testament to Frankie Edgar, a guy who will fight

1276
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 5: anybody at any time.

1277
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 7: He proved that this was very, very risky for him.

1278
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 7: This was the first time that he'd been and that

1279
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 7: he'd been knocked out in his career. He was going

1280
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 7: up against a very dangerous and potent striker in Cubs Swanson,

1281
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 7: and yeah, it could have gone badly for him.

1282
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: It did not.

1283
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 7: However, Frankie, I thought, did have an overall pretty clean performance.

1284
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 7: Frankie is one of my heroes man, he's a stud.

1285
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 7: Awesome to see him get the win. Cub Swanson another

1286
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 7: one of the good guys in the sport. If we're

1287
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 7: breaking down the fight a little bit, let's talk about that.

1288
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 7: I think for Frankie, he's got to be very careful

1289
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 7: the difference between stuttering in the pocket or really selling

1290
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 7: a faint and he was kind of getting hit with

1291
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 7: shots in there, and it was the same thing that

1292
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 7: he kind of did against Ortega, so he has to

1293
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 7: be really really careful of kind of bobbing or actually

1294
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 7: making a faint and doing it from a safe distance

1295
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 7: because he was almost getting caught.

1296
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: With similar shots against cubs Swanson.

1297
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 7: He did it, he was also mixing up his wrestling

1298
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 7: a little bit more, wasn't able to finish. And I

1299
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 7: think again, how about Cub Swanson adjusting his footwork and

1300
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 7: adjusting his wrestling to stop those takedowns.

1301
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: I thought that was very impressive.

1302
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 7: However, in doing that in kind of maybe using his

1303
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 7: head as kind of a first line of defense or

1304
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 7: a second line of defense for his wrestling to block

1305
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 7: the takedowns of Frankie Edgar, he was getting hit with

1306
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 7: right hands repeatedly.

1307
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: He only had so much.

1308
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 7: Distance to kind of back up then was kind of

1309
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 7: getting cracked with Frankie's right hand. So I thought the

1310
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 7: scorecards pretty much had it right. Maybe Cub won the

1311
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 7: second round. It was close, but yeah, I thought there

1312
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 7: were some good things happening, but it wasn't the same

1313
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 7: kind of excitement that we got in the first fight.

1314
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 5: I agree, and cub Swanson seemed a little bit surprised

1315
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 5: that it was thirty to twenty seven times three, but

1316
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 5: wasn't surprised ultimately with the outcome, and as he tweeted

1317
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 5: or wrote on Instagram, it wasn't what he was looking for.

1318
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: Now.

1319
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: He has received some criticism for this performance, and I

1320
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: love Killer Kab. At one point I thought getting that

1321
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 5: logo tattooed. But I think the criticism here of Cup

1322
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 5: Swanson and this performance is valid. I just think a

1323
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 5: lot of a s thought we were going to get

1324
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: an urgent, aggressive Cub who was really going to try

1325
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 5: to maximize this huge rematch that the UFC gave him

1326
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 5: to start this new contract. And to me, there just

1327
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 5: wasn't nearly enough here out of Cub Swanson. I thought

1328
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 5: this was a huge opportunity. I thought he was a

1329
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 5: live underdog at plus two twenty five. This is a

1330
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 5: fifteen minute fight. I know he's found a lot of

1331
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: main events, but you gotta go.

1332
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 7: I agree, listen. I think there's some things he could

1333
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 7: have done better, no doubt about it. I guess from

1334
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 7: Cub's perspective, this is what I would say to kind

1335
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 7: of defend him a little bit. Is he understood that

1336
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 7: if he moved forward and if he was aggressive like

1337
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 7: he was in that first fight, he was gonna get

1338
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 7: taken down easily. That's the thing with Frankie and his

1339
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 7: reactive takedowns. You can't just charge forward, you just can't.

1340
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 7: You're gonna get taken down. Cub isn't a d one

1341
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 7: wrestler like Frankie is, so he had to be a

1342
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 7: little bit more cautious. What could he have done to

1343
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 7: adjust a little bit be a better CounterPunch?

1344
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: And there's just not a whole lot of guys.

1345
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 7: In the UFC period that really know how to CounterPunch

1346
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 7: at a high level. And Bruce Lee used to say

1347
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 7: that that's the highest level of striking. Connor McGregor is

1348
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 7: one of those guys. Connor McGregor is one of those

1349
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 7: guys who can CounterPunch for the best of them.

1350
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: Why is that so devastating?

1351
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 7: First of all, you're hitting someone off of their offense

1352
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 7: so though they don't see it coming, and again you

1353
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: get those collision type knockouts that are the most devastating,

1354
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 7: you know. So Cub just didn't have that in his repertoire.

1355
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 7: He doesn't have that in his repertoire at a high level.

1356
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 7: Quite yet, he was moving better. He was able to

1357
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 7: stop the takedowns and move backwards. But in that process

1358
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 7: wasn't able to let his hands go. And this is

1359
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 7: kind of his development as a striker. He showed improvements

1360
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 7: and he's got a little bit to go.

1361
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Speaker 3: Man. Cub is an excellent fighter. He will learn from

1362
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: this and I'm sure he'll be back better from this.

1363
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 5: And it's easy for me to sit here, of course,

1364
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 5: as a non fighter, right and give my opinion that

1365
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 5: you probably hear half the time and you just roll

1366
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 5: in your eyes.

1367
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: Even though you're polite about it.

1368
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean it's easier said than done, especially

1369
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 5: at the elite levels, right. And even al Jamaine Sterling

1370
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: being very honest and talking about a matchup with John Dobson, right,

1371
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 5: and he'll say that same thing to Sean Shelby, right

1372
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 5: if they try to put that fight together. And sometimes

1373
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: in a stylistic matchup like that, what you do get

1374
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 5: is a little bit of a staring contest.

1375
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 7: I just you're not wrong. You know, you're not wrong

1376
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 7: at all. And I think you know it comes down

1377
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 7: to looking at your game and seeing what skills you

1378
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 7: can bring to the table, and sometimes you can and

1379
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 7: sometimes you can't. Based on what you have or based

1380
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 7: on what you're trying to do. And I totally get it,

1381
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 7: you know. You know, I'm criticizing every fighter out there,

1382
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 7: whether they win or lose. I'm just trying to look

1383
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 7: at ways that they can be better and kind of

1384
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 7: educate the fans a little bit.

1385
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: But I know you're not doing it to be hard, man,

1386
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: And it could have been a better fight.

1387
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 7: It could have been a better fight, There's no doubt

1388
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 7: about that, man, I mean absolutely.

1389
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 5: And I think it comes from a place as just

1390
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 5: a fan, and obviously I have a deeper personal relationlationship

1391
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 5: with Frankie Edgar. But wow, they're giving cubswants in this

1392
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 5: Edgar rematch. Let's see if he can maximize it. So

1393
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 5: I get excited as a fan for that opportunity, and

1394
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 5: then before you blink, fifteen minutes are over and you

1395
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 5: just sort of feel a little bit short change. But

1396
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 5: a lot of that, of course, has to do with

1397
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 5: Edgar and the threat of the takedown and everything else.

1398
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: All Right, I want to shout out a couple other

1399
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: winners here, Kenny, I know you saw most of this

1400
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 5: fight card. David Branch may be underappreciated no more after

1401
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 5: a massive knockout against Tiago Maheta, Santos, Dan Hooker, I

1402
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 5: think all of a sudden very relevant here at one

1403
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five pounds knocks out Jim Miller with

1404
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 5: a knee. There's a whole conversation there on Jim Miller.

1405
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 5: Now twenty nine fights in perhaps his days against the

1406
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: elite are over. Also a big win for Ryan Laflair

1407
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 5: against Alex Garcia. Seer bahat ter Zada with a beautiful

1408
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 5: body shot to spell the beginning of the end for

1409
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 5: Luan Shaugas. Really a nice fight card in Atlantic City, Kenny.

1410
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 5: Of those guys Branch, Hooker, bajat ter Zada, who do

1411
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 5: you like?

1412
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 7: I mean, the tough to pick all with excellent performances

1413
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 7: and excellent knockouts. I want to talk about Branch, a

1414
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 7: guy that I've trained with, one of the good guys

1415
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 7: in the sport. He was facing a very big and

1416
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 7: dangerous Santos. Santos looked a little too jittery. He was

1417
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 7: throwing a lot. He was trying to knock out Branch

1418
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 7: with one shot at a time. Branch was staying composed

1419
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 7: and patient. He was waiting, waiting. You're like I don't

1420
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 7: know if it's gonna go well for Branch. Here, Santos

1421
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 7: is spasing, He's just looking for that one punch knockout.

1422
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 7: But Branch stayed calm and composed, and it was his

1423
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 7: one shot that did the deal on Santos. Tremendous knockout there.

1424
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 7: Hooker is a guy you got to watch out for.

1425
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 7: Man the Hangman again. He first came on our riter

1426
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 7: probably when he beat Hatsu Hiochi back in the day

1427
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 7: when we called that fight, and I think he's really

1428
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 7: putting his striking together. I think he was always calm

1429
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 7: and composed, and he kind of had that quality of

1430
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 7: really not being phased by too much and not being

1431
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 7: intimidated by the competition. But now I think from training

1432
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 7: consistently with guys like Israel Designa and kind of finding

1433
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 7: what works for his game, he's going to be someone

1434
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 7: to watch man. He's kind of a dark horse in

1435
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 7: that division that Yeah, don't be surprised if you see

1436
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 7: him fight for a belt in the future.

1437
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 4: Man.

1438
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: I think the potential is high for someone like the Hangman.

1439
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 5: And obviously he used to ply his trade as a

1440
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 5: featherweight and now not unlike ally a Quinta fighting in

1441
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 5: a more natural weight class at one hundred and fifty

1442
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 5: five pounds.

1443
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 3: I say, because you know these.

1444
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 5: Guys, I Quentin Getchee, they're not cutting a lot of

1445
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 5: weight against somebody like Kevin Lee, who obviously looks massive

1446
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 5: in there.

1447
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, I texted our producers at Candy.

1448
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: I mean, Kevin Lee looked massive when he took that

1449
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 5: octagon on Saturday night, and maybe that's because he didn't well,

1450
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 5: I don't know why he looked massive.

1451
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: We'll just put it there, but yeah, I agree with

1452
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: you on Dan Hooker.

1453
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 5: Now, he did call out Paul Felder after the fact,

1454
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 5: and Felder, despite the fact that Hooker is not ranked,

1455
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 5: seem receptive to it. You know, maybe that fight makes

1456
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 5: some sense. I thought Felder did have his eye on

1457
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 5: guys ranked above him, But at least in that moment,

1458
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 5: Paul didn't seem surprised and seemed willing at least if

1459
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 5: it would be a main event.

1460
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: I think that'd be a great fight to x on strikers.

1461
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 7: And again, it's a testament to the confidence of Dan

1462
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 7: Hangman Hooker right now that he's calling out Felder, who's

1463
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 7: highly regarded. It's a dangerous fight for him. I would

1464
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 7: love to see it. I think it makes sense.

1465
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 5: And he certainly made some headlines. He did it respectfully,

1466
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 5: but you know, you call out the guy with the microfighter.

1467
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: Not many fighters are going to say that to your face.

1468
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 5: That was cool, And I know New Zealand's excited because

1469
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 5: this is a true key.

1470
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: We in somebody who lays claim to New Zealand.

1471
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 5: Right, we have some of these guys like Robert Whitaker

1472
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 5: who were born there, but they are really associated with Australia.

1473
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 5: So I know New Zealand is happy for Dan Hooker and.

1474
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: So are we all?

1475
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 5: Right, before we go, I got this one quick non

1476
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 5: MMA item that I just want to get your thoughts on.

1477
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 5: And I don't know how much you've heard about this.

1478
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 5: So the University of Central Florida UCF. Right, it's UCF,

1479
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 5: not to be confused with UFC college football team. They

1480
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 5: went thirteen to o this past season. That included a

1481
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 5: win over Auburn in the Chick fil A Peach Bowl.

1482
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 5: So they were the only undefeated team in D one

1483
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 5: or FBS whatever they're calling it now. So they did not, though,

1484
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 5: get a chance to play for the national championship game.

1485
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 5: They earned it right in the Peach Bowl they beat Auburn.

1486
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 5: They didn't qualify for the College Football Playoffs, so therefore

1487
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: they were not eligible to win college football's national championship.

1488
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 5: But despite that, the school is laying claim to a

1489
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 5: national title. So they have championship rings and now on

1490
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: the facade at the stadium it says twenty seventeen National

1491
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: champions and real quick, this from the athletic director, Danny White.

1492
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 5: We're trying to build our program. We feel very strongly

1493
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 5: is the only unefeated team. And having beat Auburn, who

1494
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 5: beat both teams competing for the national championship. Right, Auburn

1495
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 5: did beat Alabama and Georgia who competed for the national title,

1496
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 5: that we have an extremely sound case to claim the crown.

1497
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 5: So this I live in Florida, right, this is an

1498
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 5: amazing accomplishment for these kids. I love the championship rings

1499
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 5: that they can show their family. Where you lose me

1500
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 5: is the twenty seventeen national champions on the facade. I

1501
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 5: mean you come in there visiting player next year. Right,

1502
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 5: there's your source of trash talk. It's like, you guys

1503
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 5: got the fucking national champions up on the facade.

1504
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: You didn't even play in the national title game.

1505
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 5: You know, I like the rings, but I think this

1506
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 5: is just a little bit of a stretch, bordering on embarrassing,

1507
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 5: if that's not too harsh.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's kind of weird in that.

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Speaker 7: Again, you know, we're kind of in this time and

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Speaker 7: age where we're creating our own truths.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: Uh, it's a strange thing. Listen, put undefeated undefeated, you know,

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Speaker 7: twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, whatever it is, and to

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Speaker 7: have that on the stadium, but to say you're the

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Speaker 7: national champs and to get rings that say national champs?

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Speaker 3: What about undefeated rings?

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Speaker 7: That's fine, but you weren't in the title game at

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Speaker 7: the end of the day, right, I mean.

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean like, I like, are their

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Speaker 5: local broadcasters gonna say like they're defending a national title?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, there's no official acknowledgment obviously by

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Speaker 5: the NCAA.

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Speaker 7: And why the school Again, I don't I'm sure there's

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Speaker 7: more to it. I'm a little bit ignorant as far

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01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 7: as creating the schedule for you know, those games, but

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 7: right sore, are they going to create a tougher schedule

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 7: now so they can because I would assume that's why

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Speaker 7: they weren't the playoffs. They were undefeated, but they weren't

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Speaker 7: playing you know, the SEC teams.

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, look at the soccer guy just totally locked

1531
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: in to what the RPI and everything else. No, exactly right,

1532
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: strength of schedule and and so are they gonna do

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01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 5: that moving forward? Now they'll start schedule. So the schedule

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 5: is already done. You know a lot of the big games,

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 5: right like Notre Dame has games on their schedule in

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Speaker 5: the year twenty twenty nine. Okay, yeah, so it's already

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01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 5: been in Alabama, I believe, right, so there, but obviously

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Speaker 5: that is a huge motivation and for the incoming coach obviously,

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 5: I mean they're head coach. Scott Frost took a seven year,

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 5: thirty five million dollar deal with Nebraska prior to even

1541
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 5: coaching in the Peach Bowl. He did coach that game

1542
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 5: and and finished off the season with this undefeated team,

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: but that coach was already moving on to Nebraska, and

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01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 5: the new coach I got his name somewhere, Josh Hipel,

1545
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 5: former quarterback, is now the new head coach. But I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I just found it interesting. I was all

1547
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 5: for the championship rings, and then when I saw the

1548
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen national champions on the facade, I had to

1549
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 5: bring it up because I just I can't even believe

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Speaker 5: that they put that up there.

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Speaker 3: But that's good.

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 7: I tell everybody I'm I'm a world champion UFC fighter,

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Speaker 7: So that's good.

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: That's good.

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, close enough, close enough, And you can tell

1556
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 5: too how he thought he was going to fight Frankie Edgar,

1557
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 5: because you just know exactly how you would prepare to

1558
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 5: beat that guy. All right, before we go quickly, if

1559
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 5: you have emailed the show to make picks against Kenny

1560
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 5: Florian in the main event challenge, I have all of

1561
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 5: your submissions. You are all in the queue. Even if

1562
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 5: I don't reply to you directly, you are all on

1563
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 5: the list. We have about fifty or sixty names right now,

1564
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 5: so I won't be able to get to all of

1565
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 5: you over the course of the year. If you haven't

1566
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 5: already submitted your name, going to be tough for us

1567
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 5: to get to you this year. Also, if you've reached

1568
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 5: out asking for my fighter cards, these are the cards

1569
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 5: that I use on the broadcast.

1570
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Speaker 3: I have those requests as well.

1571
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 5: I am going to send out all of those fighter cards,

1572
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 5: but I can't send you the Amanda Noonz card until

1573
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 5: she fights at UFC two twenty four.

1574
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 7: So and because twenty eighteen has been rough on me,

1575
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 7: I'm actually looking for the most ignorant UFC fans we

1576
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 7: can find because I have some I have some ground

1577
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 7: to make up here.

1578
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Speaker 5: So by the way, Emma took Emma took you down

1579
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 5: four to three last week.

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 3: See, I knew it. She picked she picked Kevin Lee

1581
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: in the fifth round. So it's hard Emma needless say.

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01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 3: Thanks Emma, all right.

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Speaker 5: Thanks also to Ben with Sorik Jenko, Neil Foley, Danny,

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 5: everybody else associated with this fine program. Thanks to Ray

1585
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 5: long Ago, al Jamaine Sterling. I think we're off next week,

1586
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 5: I believe on April thirtieth, but we'll be back with

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Speaker 5: our UFC two twenty four preview Monday, May seventh, at

1588
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 5: the outset of Fight Week for UFC two twenty four

1589
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 5: Noonez versus Pennington from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Alright, with

1590
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 5: that for the Flow and everybody else, thank you all

1591
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 5: for listening, for watching Longo's fucking crazy.

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Speaker 3: Until next week you'll listen.

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Speaker 4: To John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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