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Now, please sit 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to do the proper 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: amount of research yourself, depending on the subject matter and 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: your needs. 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast i AM 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week, 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: this is the place you go to when you want 18 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: to hear the latest when it comes to anything out 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: of the ordinary, and I'm talking about a lot of 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: personal stories from angels, aliens, bigfoot to shadow people. I 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: welcome you the listener, to participate in the show by 22 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: going to my main website, which is Heidihollis dot com 23 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: or shadowfolks dot com and tell me what's going on, 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: give me as much details as you would like it. 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: If there's research that you want to cover, tell me 26 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: about it. I will share it here on the show. 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: Or if there's some little bits of advice you want 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: to give to others, or if you want some insight 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: from me, let me know. But if you want to 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: be anonymous, or if you don't want to have your 31 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: information shared here on the air, you just indicate that 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: in the first lines and I will honor that promise. 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: I am not kidding when I say doing the shows 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: that are nothing, but your stories are absolutely my favorite. 35 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: I just dig into it and just lose myself. And again, 36 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: if you want to come on here to share your 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: story personally directly, You're welcome to do that. But I'm 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: not kidding you. I don't know. People want to write 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: and I don't mind I'm reading it, but man, I 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: want to talk to some of you guys more often. 41 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: Every so often somebody gets brave and says, okay, okay, 42 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: I'll do it, and I'm like, yeehaw. So guess what 43 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: today is all about your emails. It's all about your 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: personal stories. So we're gonna just dive on in and 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: see what we got. And I totally randomly grab these emails. 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: I do not line them up, but if you've been 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: listening to my shows, you will find that they kind 48 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: of coincide with each other, which is kind of freaky. 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: It's just blows my mind today. Don't know, these look 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: like a couple of juicy emails that I got thus far. 51 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: So we'll explore it together, shall we. Here we go, 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: this one says Hi Heidi. It's really amazing that after 53 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: all these years, I finally have an answer to what 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: I saw as a child more than thirty five years ago. Okay, 55 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: where are we going? It was something that I've never 56 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: been able to explain, but also something I know wasn't 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 3: a childhood dream because the story has never changed. There's 58 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: a clue, right, you know it's not your imagination and 59 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: the memory has never faded. Oh we're going deep dark. 60 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: This feels shadow people, Isha hat Man. So I can 61 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: in fact now say with confidence that I did, indeed 62 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: have an experience with what you have termed as the 63 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: hat Man. Aha. There it is This happened to me 64 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six, when I was just eleven years old. 65 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: It was at nighttime. I left my room to go 66 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: to the kitchen to get a glass of water. Why 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: do we hear these types of stories? People go get 68 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: a glass of water in the middle of the night 69 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: and oooh, the craziest things happen. Don't do it. Have 70 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: a cup by your bed every night so you don't 71 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: have to go get one. That's what I do, bottle water. 72 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: It works great. I left my room, go get a kid. Okay. 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: I filled my glass up and began walking back through 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: the kitchen to my room. I stopped at the beginning 75 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: of the hallway to take a sip of my water, 76 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: and from where I was standing, you could see clear 77 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: across to the family room on the other side of 78 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: the house, which was about twenty feet. As I was drinking, 79 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: I got the straw longest sensation that I was being watched. 80 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: I looked over to the family room and there it was, 81 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: sitting on the couch, staring directly at Meugh hat Man 82 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: does tend to like living rooms and couches. I don't 83 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: know how how long people have been listening to the 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: show but yeah, this is wild. Oh okay, he likes 85 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: to be comfortable. I guess. It was wearing a large 86 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: fedora type hat with a big brim and a trench 87 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: coat that went all the way down to its feet. 88 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: I like how this person is calling hat man it 89 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: because very appropriate. The trench coat also had very big 90 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: buckles across the middle where buttons would normally be. The 91 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: couches were white, and what this thing was wearing was 92 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: very black. The contrast was incredibly stark. Oh why did 93 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: they give me really weird chills? I don't know. 94 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: Ugh. 95 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: After reading about this online, it seems like most people 96 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: have only seen its silhouette. No no, uh uh no, 97 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: I unfortunately saw its entire face. It was and remains 98 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: to this day to be the scariest thing I have 99 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: ever seen. That's what I've heard. That Rudolph Steiner sculpture 100 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: that you display on your website, Oh oh oh yes, 101 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: oh yes, is exactly its face, with a pale gray skin, 102 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: but also with a smile that went almost ear to 103 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: ear and with very sharp, jagged teeth, the way an 104 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 3: alligator would have. Okay, guys, Okay, So sometimes I get 105 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: repeated emails and I don't know. Sometimes the stories do 106 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: get to sound very similar to each other. This one 107 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. But for those of 108 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: you who do not know, if you go to my 109 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: website Heidihollis dot com, on that first page, all the 110 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: way down, you will see the sculpture that I have 111 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: referred to as being hat Man, but Rudolf Steiner a 112 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: hundred years ago called Aramon, and I didn't know. I 113 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: had no idea. Somebody showed me the sculptures, like what 114 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: do you think of this? And I'm like, wow, that's 115 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: a really cool sculpture of hat Man. And the person 116 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: is like, what what are you talking about? This is 117 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: one hundred years old, Like one hundred years old. Well, 118 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: they must have known hat Man and then to know 119 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: that this thing referred to as Ariman also referred to 120 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: himself as pretty much being the devil, and so does 121 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: hat Man. And Rudolf Steiner said, one hundred years from 122 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: the time that he made the sculpture, or somebody or 123 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: the subject of Ariman hat Man would be stepping forward. 124 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: So I guess part of prophecy. How strange, and if 125 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: you know my backstory, stepping into such a thing as 126 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: it's weird, but it kind of fits. Okay, so continuing 127 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: just in case. I don't know if this is the 128 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: same email it got sent to me again, or it's 129 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: just a very similar story. But eh, it's not that 130 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: long from this part, so I'll just continue. It was 131 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 3: utterly terrifying. I stood there, paralyzed for what seemed like forever. 132 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: I didn't make a sound or acknowledge it in any way. 133 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: That was a smart move. I simply turned around and 134 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: slowly walked back to my room and went to bed. 135 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: That's that's pretty brave for a little kid. For the 136 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: longest time, I didn't really know how to describe what 137 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: I saw because it was so strange. My grandmother had 138 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: passed away a few months prior. At first I thought 139 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: maybe it was her spirit, but that explanation never felt right. 140 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: My grandmother was a kind woman, and this entity, whatever 141 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: it was, did not exude goodness, good read, good read. 142 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: I got the feeling of complete dread when I was 143 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: in its presence. Yeah. Over the years, I didn't really 144 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: think too much about it until I saw Oh, another 145 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: film project talking about quote sleep paralysis, Oh, don't get 146 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: me started, and it mentioned shadow beings. Oh, wonder they 147 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: didn't contact me about that. I started to research it 148 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: online and that's how I found your website. Oh, the 149 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: source of it reuly mind blowing to find out after 150 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: all this time that I'm not the only one who 151 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: has had this experience. I'm not sure how you managed 152 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: to handle researching this topic, because as I previously said, 153 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: it was the single most frightening thing that has ever 154 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: happened to me. Good luck to you and keep up 155 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: the great work. Sincerely, Roland, Thank you Roland's it is 156 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: one of those topics that people don't understand how a 157 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: lady can continue going forward and this stuff. And I 158 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: have to tell you this whole it feels like a 159 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: bashing almost were these film projects, none of them are mined, 160 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: are mine, I don't. I don't own them. They took 161 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 3: material and made shows and what not off of my work. 162 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: If you don't see my face in there, I'm not 163 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: part of it, though it's my materials. I guess that's 164 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: a way to put it. Because I introduced the topics 165 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: and the ramifications, definitions and what is and what's that 166 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: and all that. When it comes to shadow people and 167 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: hat man phenomena, it's not considered to be very ladylike 168 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: to dive into these things. So yeah, they skip over 169 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: that part oftentimes. 170 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: But this is. 171 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: When you hear the word sleep paralysis. I don't agree 172 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: with that. Okay, this is my opinion. That's a medical 173 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: diagnosis sleep paralysis. We all experience that because for us 174 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: to go to sleep at night and if we're dreaming, 175 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: we're walking or swinging at something, our bodies don't go 176 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: with it. So we get this form of sleep paralysis. 177 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: That is natural, and that's normal, seeing things, feeling things, 178 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: having things talk to you, try to choke you out 179 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: or kill you. That is not sleep paralysis. This is 180 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: the phenomena that I call shadow people and the hat 181 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: Man phenomena, and it's thereat it's horrifying, you know. And 182 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: again this is just my opinion. You know, people get 183 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: diagnosed with, oh, you've got sleep paralysis, you know, night terrors, 184 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: so we're gonna give you something to sleep better at night, 185 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: so you forget about them. So that's what happens to people. 186 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: It got put into a medical model somehow, But I'm 187 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: not in the medical model of that. I am in 188 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: the paranormal, spiritual manner of what's going on. And we're 189 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: not all having mass hallucinations of the exact same thing 190 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: again my opinion. But you're welcome to go and get 191 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: a medical diagnosis to say this is what it was 192 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: in ided medicine. You know, good on you for that. 193 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, it is. It's not easy to tackle these subjects, 194 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: and but I keep on keeping on and great people 195 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: like yourself reaching out letting me know that the message 196 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: is being found amidst of the strange bits of other 197 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: people throwing my stuff out there into different categories. It's wild. 198 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: So we're going to get to our first break. 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Today is all about your stories, 219 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: your emails and if there's some insight I like advice 220 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: that I could give, I am here for that. And 221 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: you know all of us are just paying attention and 222 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: taking note, so wee and figure this all out. It's, uh, 223 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: it's kind of fascinating what my way. And you know 224 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: this last email that I just read and I'm talking 225 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: about how people have all these different perspectives off its 226 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: material shadow people hat man throwing it into the arena 227 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: of a medical model somehow, and it's it's just night 228 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: and day for me. I just I don't understand, and 229 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: it always kind of I get this little in the 230 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: back of my throat when I hear yeah, I suffer 231 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: from sleep paralysis night terrors. That's another one. If you 232 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: can look at at a timeline of when I came 233 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: on the scene talking about these things, and how many 234 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: years it took for somebody to try to flip it 235 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: and to become something else and then become a questionable reality, 236 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: just like you know that UFO topic or paranormal investigations. 237 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing to me how these things happen. 238 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: And again it's whitewashed. Just it's not not a thing, 239 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: and it's a shame. It's a shame. If they would 240 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: sit down and ask me and where I got this 241 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: information from and material from, Uh, it might have been 242 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: these projects might have actually been more worthy. But just 243 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: gets so frustrated. It's like, oh, Heidi, you did something 244 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: else over here. Oh did I did you see me 245 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: on it? Nope, Well it wasn't me. And then sometimes 246 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: I am on these shows and they feed my lines 247 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: to other people and take my material and all that 248 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: stuff anyhow they twist it. Oh yeah, it's a it's 249 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: a hot mess out there. So don't trust the media, Okay, 250 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: whatever you do. Never it's like hmm, I thought I 251 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: said that, but they told somebody else to say that, 252 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: and that looks like they're the genius. What is that? 253 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: What is that about? So crazy? So crazy? Yeah, some 254 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: of these shows that I have been well I shouldn't 255 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: say not that I have been on people who have 256 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: asked me like, hey, get on and do a show. 257 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: They don't want a woman leading on these shows, so 258 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: that's a no go, but they want that information. So 259 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: it's weird. It's a weird world out there, so strange, 260 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: and you know, statistically speaking, mostly women, it's a bigger 261 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 3: percentage of women who are into these topics. And yeah, 262 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: so go figure, go figure. I would think that this 263 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: is a hot commodity. And for guys that are into it, 264 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: I don't think they mind if a lady knows something, right, 265 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: raise your hand. Oh boy, Yeah, just having a conversation 266 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: here with my friends. Okay, such a strange world. Okay, 267 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: So anyways, I'm going to get on over here to 268 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: the next email and we're just gonna dive on in. 269 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: And wo is a big one. This is a big one. 270 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: Oh all right, let's let's just do this. Hi, Heidi, 271 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 3: my name is Eduardo, and I listened to your shows 272 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: and podcasts when time permits. Well, hey, they're Eduardo. I 273 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: have two things that I wanted to discuss with you, 274 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: which I've wanted to get off my chest for a while. 275 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: All Right, When I was about seven to nine years old, 276 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: I was sick one night and I was just my 277 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: mother and I in the apartment, and I lived in 278 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: the Bronx at the time. I believe I was recovering 279 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: from a cold and I had a fever. I remember 280 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: having those types of pajamas with the laminated rubber souls. 281 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: Oh I love those little the footies, right, which was 282 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: like a body suit with a zipper. Not sure if 283 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: you remember those, but anyway, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Those 284 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: are wonderful until you had to go use the bathroom 285 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: and then you're like freezing because you have done zipwall. 286 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: You guys understand, all right? All right, they could and you. 287 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: My mother calls me into her bedroom because she wanted 288 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: to know how it was feeling. So I walked over 289 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: to her bedroom, which was about twelve to fifteen feet 290 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: away from my room. It was about eleven pm at night, 291 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: and my father at the time he worked nights, so 292 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: he wasn't there. My older sister. She was asleep, and 293 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: she was only four years older than me, not much 294 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: taller than me, but she wasn't tall at all. My 295 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: little sister, who was about four years younger than me, 296 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: was asleep as well. My younger brother was not born yet, 297 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: so there were only three of us. So as I 298 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: am about to enter my mother's bedroom, I stop dead 299 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 3: in my tracks. A boy. Okay, I saw, oh my, 300 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I got chills. I saw someone sitting 301 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: in my father's recliner chair, which he kept in a 302 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: corner near the window in her bedroom. Oh man, this 303 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: has happened again, guys coinciding emails. I can't even tell 304 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: you how random I grab these from the far spaced 305 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: out dates. This is crazy. I really, if you saw me, 306 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: just goosebumps, just goosebumps. Absolutely, just mind blowing. And what's 307 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: cool is they have a little image here of a 308 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: recliner to show me what it kind of looked like. Okay, 309 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: and they continue. The individual sitting in the chair was 310 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: a tall, slender, mmmm, well dressed individual and like a 311 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: dark beige trench coat with a fedora hat on. And 312 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: now I'll tell you beige as another color. That hat 313 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: man does tend to wear You just don't hear it much, 314 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 3: but yeah he does. The trench coat was tied at 315 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: the waist with a fastener which belonged to the coat. 316 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: For the life of me, I could not see his face. 317 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: I swear the cemal went to describe areman, I was 318 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: about to fall over on this chair because come on, 319 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: I mean, how much in common could you have here? Okay? 320 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: My father was a husky burly man at about five 321 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: six or five seven. And my father was humorous when 322 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: we're little, but he would never take a break from 323 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: his job to play dress up with my mom. That's funny. 324 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 3: That would be way out a character for him. And 325 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: that's for darn sure. He was a mechanic for most 326 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: of his adult life, not in his netics to engineer 327 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: something like this. Oh, I feel you. My dad was 328 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: a computer engineer, like probably one of the first on 329 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: the planet and the things that he saw. But my 330 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: dad's very humanist too, so he was big jokester and all. 331 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't do something like that either, So I 332 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 3: feel you. I did not enter my mother's bedroom. I 333 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: was paralyzed with fear. I know that it was not 334 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: my father because the man sitting in the recliner was 335 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: much taller than him and he seemed really thin, like skinny, 336 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: so I knew it was not my father. My mother 337 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: for some reason kept signaling me to come in. Mom's like, 338 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: come on, come on, protect me. I don't know. I'm 339 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: not there yet, so I'm reading. She was sitting on 340 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: the bed near the recliner. It appeared as though she 341 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: was having a nice little chat with this individual before 342 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: I appeared. What on earth? My mother did not appear 343 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: to be startled, alarmed, or even scared. She seemed casual, 344 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: like nothing was wrong. Well, that is puzzling, hmm. I 345 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: wonder if she's familiar with this type of presence, if 346 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: this is not like anything out of the ordinary, because 347 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: or she didn't see it for all we know. Okay, continuing, 348 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: but it seemed odd to me that this individual would 349 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 3: be in my home late at night. My mother was 350 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: not the type to ever let a strange man or 351 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: even a friend of my father's upstairs without my father 352 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: being present. Well, that's the right thing to do, especially 353 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: up in your bedroom, and to a married woman. She 354 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: was not that type of woman. There you go. She 355 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: was very faithful, traditional strict and old fashioned. My mother 356 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: was also a devout Catholic and prayed the Rosary extensively 357 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: at this point. As a child, I am at an 358 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: impass Do I run? Do I tell Mom? I'm sure, 359 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure those things are going through your head, Like 360 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: do do I save myself or do I save the 361 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: whole family? Ooh, the horrors, the horrors. Okay, my mom 362 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: is still trying to reel me in choice of words, 363 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: have me puzzled, Like do you feel like she's kind 364 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: of possessed and this thing is actually the one calling you? Wow? 365 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: Almost like she wanted to introduce me to this ominously 366 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: strange and peculiar man. Huh. I saw that my mother 367 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: was as calm as f word, so I cautiously took 368 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: baby steps towards her. It's like, I feel you. I'm 369 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: totally imagining as my head, like really, Mom, really, come on, 370 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 3: come on, come on. It's like I want some candy. 371 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 3: You know, here's my friend. I'm seeing this in my head. Okay, 372 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: who Heidi? For the life of me, I could not 373 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 3: see his face. The light in the hallway was on, 374 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 3: so I could see my mom sitting there as the 375 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: light partially lit her room area just enough to see 376 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: the figure, but not his face. It's like his face 377 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: was covered or somehow hidden on this person. Yeah, that's 378 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: typical of hat man. Sometimes his face, of course, could 379 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: be solid black. And the really common descriptions that always 380 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: catches me is absent of light. It's like you can't 381 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: even get a reflection off the nose, a mouth, anything, 382 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: totally absent of light. So it's you're calling right into 383 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: that pattern here, And this is a big email, So 384 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep on reading this here after the 385 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: break because it's juicy and I appreciate it. 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It is 406 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: all about your stories, your emails, and wow, we've got 407 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: a doozy. We've got Eduardo, who coincidentally has discovered a 408 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: hat man sitting on the chair next to her mother, 409 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 3: who was coursing him to come closer, as if she's 410 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: going to introduce him to hat man. And I kid 411 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: you not prior email the hat man again, sitting on 412 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 3: couches very common. I really didn't set these emails up. 413 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: I really didn't, So okay, anyways, I am continuing this 414 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: story because this is wild. Eduardo continues. He looked like 415 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: he was wearing a mask or a bandage or something 416 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: which prohibited me from seeing his face. That's that absence 417 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: of light. It was dark in my mother's bedroom, but 418 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: the light from the hallway would cast light into the 419 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: room up to the point where my father's recliner was located. 420 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: At the time. There it was dark until this man 421 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: decided to make a move and came into the light. Ooh, chills, chills, 422 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: chills on his for Dora, he did have a feather 423 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: on the side. You know, I have to tell you guys, 424 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: as I'm reading this, these cute little icons of feathers 425 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: and a recliner pops up. So EDWARDO puts some time 426 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: into this. Again, kudos to you, EDWARDO. Okay, definitely not 427 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: a hat that my father would wear. Ever, not sure 428 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: if that helps. Yeah, you know, having the feather in 429 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: the cap and a beige trench coat is it's weird, 430 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: But like when he changes up his outfit, it seems 431 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: to be I have had more of the feather in 432 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: the hat type of scenario with the beige, so he's matching. 433 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know. As I got close to 434 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: my mom, this individual decided to slowly I just knew it, 435 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: and creepily lean forward from the chair and ever so 436 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: slowly tried to reach for me. You know, I gotta 437 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: tell you, creepily. I'm surprised, as a word like, it's 438 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: not being flagged on this. I copy pasted his email 439 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: into a word document. That's a that's a word everybody, creepily. 440 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 3: Oh so he reached for you. When this individual flexed 441 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: its arm to reach for me, I noticed that this 442 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: individual had long fingers and sharp nails and wrinkled hands. 443 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: H Have you guys seen the latest Jurassic World movie 444 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: and you'll see there's a dinosaur on there, a newly 445 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: introduced one that has these extremely long claw like appendages. Okay, 446 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: and that's something that reminds me of hat Man. Believe 447 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: it or not. People described these disgustingly long, dangly, pointy 448 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: fingers that he has, and some have said bony, but 449 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: you're seeing that they're wrinkled. 450 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 6: Ugh. 451 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, oh no oh no. This gets worse. 452 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: And then it either growled or moaned while it stretched 453 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: towards me. I am not kidding you, head to toe goosebumps. 454 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys. It scared the poop 455 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: out of me, and I ran for my life as 456 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: I exited my mother's bedroom. Huh. I went to my bedside, 457 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: scared and kept my eyes completely shut, hoping it wouldn't 458 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: get me. I'm so puzzled. What was mom thinking. I'm 459 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: forty nine years old now. Sometime around my early thirties, 460 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: I questioned my mother, oh thank gosh about the incident 461 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: several times. She claims she doesn't remember anything about it. Huh, 462 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: she smiles, and I chuckled about it with her. But 463 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: I know what I saw and experienced as a little boy. Hum, 464 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: see that, like I kind of like along the lines 465 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: of what I was thinking. She may have been possessed, 466 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: because what mother would say, come, come, and you said 467 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: it looked like she was having a conversation just prior 468 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: to her calling you over. Huh. I can't help but 469 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: to wonder how sick you were. You were in a 470 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: weekned state, but you set a cold with a fever, 471 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: like colds should not give you a fever, so I 472 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: don't know, it's really strange, but you were in a 473 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: week in state still nonetheless, so that's a that's so weird. Okay. 474 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: The hat man appeared to me when I was a child, 475 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: and I remember it like it was yesterday. I'm wondering 476 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: why my mother doesn't remember this why she forgot this? Well, 477 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: you know, that's one of the things I just brought up. Actually, 478 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: that sounds like almost like she was possessed slightly, that 479 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: he was pulling the strings and using her voice and 480 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: her demeanor and everything to manipulate you, to bring you 481 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: in closer like a spider, ugh, waiting to trap you. 482 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean, what a horrible thing to do. And he 483 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: is known to possess people. She might have been asleep 484 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: and he just kind of wiggled his finger into her 485 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: ear and pulled a few buttons and are pushed and well, ah, 486 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: there you have it. I mean, it sounds so absolutely 487 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: twisted and absurd to think, my mother, how could it 488 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: get at me my mom like that? But he does. 489 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 3: This is just what he does, and he's good at it, 490 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: and he's been doing it for a very, very long time. 491 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: So we've got a big learning curve to better understand him, 492 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 3: that's for sure. But there are patterns, and that's why 493 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: I share my emails here so everybody can pay attention 494 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 3: to the patterns. I've been one person sitting behind doing columns, 495 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: writing books, doing cartoons, comics, anything TV shows. I was 496 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: just trying and hoping that others could pick up on 497 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: what it is I'm screaming about. And as strange as 498 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: it sounds, remember before this lifetime agreeing to come here 499 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: to do this, to tell teach anything and everything that 500 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: could get this message across. And now I'm here sharing 501 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: it with you and trying to do it the right way. 502 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: And I'd like to think him kind of figuring it 503 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: out and have been successful in spreading the word to millions. 504 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: Not everybody knows how they came across this information, but 505 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: you're here now, right, all right, So continuing with this email, 506 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 3: all right, second question, all right, it's got it totally 507 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: clear here. You had a podcast a few years ago 508 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 3: where the host was a young black man, I believe, 509 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 3: where he introduced you and said, we have a great 510 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: show today and we got Heidi Allis in the house. 511 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: And that's all I remember what he said. But you 512 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: talked about the haunted house you grew up in, talked 513 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 3: about your Puerto Rican roommate in college, and other paranormal 514 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: occurrences and aliens. That podcast was removed from YouTube or 515 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: the uploader removed it from YouTube for personal reasons. Do 516 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: you know which podcast I'm referring to? You did it 517 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: a few years before COVID struck. It was an excellent broadcast. 518 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: You talked about how the aliens were speaking through your 519 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: roommate and that they didn't want to get close enough 520 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: to the ground because we have the technology to shoot 521 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: them down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are all the things 522 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: I talk about. Generally. Program was like two hours long. 523 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 3: I do believe I know what you're speaking of, and 524 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 3: I talk about these matters on several shows, not just 525 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: that one. So on most interviews you'll hear me talking 526 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 3: about these things. If people ask the right questions, I 527 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: will definitely touch on those types of subjects. But yeah, so, 528 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: and please tell me why the hat man appeared to 529 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: me when I was little? What did I do? About 530 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 3: seven years ago? A psychic told me that my energy 531 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 3: was at a very high vibrational frequency. My integer was very, 532 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: very high and hot. I'm wondering if that had something 533 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: to do with it, even when I was a child. 534 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: Hope to hear from you soon, sincerely, Eduardo. Well, thank 535 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: you Eduardo for reaching out. I believe you're speaking of 536 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 3: Hocus forty fifth. I was on his program, and yeah, 537 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: he's been on his show a few times. Really, really 538 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: lively conversation. And you know what's when it comes to 539 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: people that experience hat man, they're always like, why me, 540 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: what did I ever do? This thing was so evil 541 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: it wanted me. It pompeteered your mother to get access 542 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: to you. So he was really trying hard. Like that's 543 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: a unique bend. But he does this, He does this 544 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: before our first timer. That's kind of kind of different. 545 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of wrapped my head around that 546 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: for a first time introduction. He just tried to grab 547 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: a hold of you, hm and moved in slow motion, 548 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: and he wore a different outfit with a feather in 549 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: his hat. That's interesting. Yeah, I can't always explain his 550 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 3: motivations and his ways of trying to gain access to 551 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 3: a person, but I will say I will say that 552 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 3: for him to go through so much trouble, there's something 553 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: definitely different about you. I mean, especially when it comes 554 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: to children and people are like, you know, wow, they 555 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: really this thing was really going after the kid. The 556 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: kid is special. Usually nine times out of ten, the 557 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 3: kid is able to understand, notice, perceive little advancements in 558 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 3: mankind's abilities, if you will, And these are attractive to 559 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: have man, because what is he trying to do. He's 560 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: trying to slow our progress. He's trying to slow the 561 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: role of mankind to evolve, to teach others to spiritually 562 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: be awoken, awake, awaken and awaken. I don't know, but 563 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: you have to wake up, smell the roses, see the 564 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: universe that we are in the midst of, and how 565 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 3: we are a part of it and everything, and how 566 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: we're connected to other beings and souls and just the 567 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: whole big shebang. And if you're somebody who is sincere 568 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: awake kind, these are also evolutionary elements of mankind, because oh, 569 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: we can be brutal, can't We can't we? And I 570 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: think that's the scary part about this whole notion of 571 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: us creating AI artificial intelligence. Well, we haven't got this 572 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 3: stuff figured out ourselves. But you know, I'm gonna kind 573 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 3: of wrap it up on your email here after the break. 574 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 3: So you guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light 575 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 3: with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 576 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 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You are listening to Dark that Comes Light 595 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio Hey Coast to 596 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 3: Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, 597 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: EDWARDO wrote me a nice, juicy email and it is 598 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: always appreciated. Here on this program to give as much 599 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 3: detail as you can. And he had a common question, 600 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: you know why me I was a kid hat man 601 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: came for me, used my mother as a puppet tear 602 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 3: to pull me in. And your mom totally doesn't remember it. 603 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 3: I mean she was like in a sleepwalking state, sounds 604 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 3: like to me. And he kind of stuck his little 605 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: fingers in the wrong places and pulled her strings and 606 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 3: try to grab a hold of you, try to make 607 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: an easy grab. You know, he's very opportunistic, very much so. 608 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: And your light must have been awfully bright. And he 609 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 3: took a look and said, oh, there you have it. 610 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people tell me, you know, 611 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 3: a psychic once told me this. And let me tell you, 612 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: I was never a huge believer of psychics, okay, because 613 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 3: I've had people tell me things so much over the 614 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 3: years that I just always kind of left it too. 615 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 3: If I meant to know it, I will, It'll come 616 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: to me at some point. I've experienced a lot of 617 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 3: things and people are like, oh, you're a medium, Oh 618 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: you're this. I can't put a title to these things. 619 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 3: All I know is they happen, and I'm honest, and 620 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: I put it out there when things happen, and hope 621 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 3: people can relate or hope I can find answers. And 622 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 3: you know, at some point I'm gonna share it with 623 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: you guys about some really big doozies of things that 624 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: I've been learning. And oh man, my life turned upside 625 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: down for a bit and flipped a little bit sideways 626 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: and then backflipped, and boy, the things I'm learning, you know. 627 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: So you never know with life, You just never know, 628 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: especially if you have a paranormal life. So AnyWho where 629 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 3: was I? Yeah? So you know, these things happen, And 630 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: I feel that, EDWARDO, that you obviously caught hat Man's attention. 631 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: So did your mom some kind of vulnerability and very 632 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 3: religious woman, you know, and people try to cover themselves 633 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: in prayers and then when something slips in, you know, 634 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 3: they're shocked, you know, like could have taken over my mother. 635 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 3: He's opportunistic again. She could have had a dream of 636 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 3: something like a puppy came up to her feet and 637 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 3: she picked it up. Well it was hat Man and 638 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 3: that belly of that little beast, little fuzzy little thing. 639 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 3: But that doesn't seem right, you know, But something in 640 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: her gut might have told her something's wrong with this puppy, 641 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna pick up anyways, and gouchi guji. You know. 642 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 3: But it sounds crazy, but he does anything it takes 643 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: to gain that acknowledgment, that access, and once he's in, 644 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 3: he tries to see what else he can do. So, yeah, 645 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 3: you caught us attention. I take it as a compliment, 646 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 3: but very very freaking very scary. I understand that you 647 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 3: have not lost the image of what it was that 648 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 3: you experienced all these years later. And I don't know 649 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 3: many people who forget their hat Man experiences unless they passed. 650 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 3: I'll hit their head. You know. It caused a little 651 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 3: brain damage, but it's it's a life changing event, and 652 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: you know, not until you experience it. People just don't 653 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 3: quite understand how that could happen. But I feel you 654 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 3: special you huh, Eduardo. Don't want to be one of 655 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 3: those special ones. But yeah, okay, thank you for writing me, though, 656 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: ed Warder and taking the time for all of the 657 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: cool little images and all the words too. All right, 658 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: moving on to the next email. This one says, dear Heidi, Hello, 659 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: I would like to talk to you more about hat Man. Okay, 660 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 3: we're having a conversation here. He has been with me 661 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 3: since I was a boy. I'm so sorry, But unlike 662 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 3: most people, I do not believe he intends to do 663 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 3: me harm. Okay, okay, but instead I am starting to 664 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 3: believe he is there to watch over me and protect me. Wusa, highty, Wusa? 665 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: Who didn't I tell you, guys, every once in a while, 666 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 3: I get these types of emails I do. I get 667 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: these types of emails or people like I think. I 668 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 3: think he's theared to protect me. But okay, you have 669 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: experienced him since you were a boy, and now you've 670 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 3: come to this conclusion. I bet you're scared as a kid. 671 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 3: If you're not scared now, but you still have intervals 672 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 3: of it because that is just that's him. Do not 673 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 3: be fooled. Do not give him a new title. Okay, 674 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: just please, don't. I beg you. But a lot of 675 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 3: people do this, and I can't help but to think 676 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 3: the reasons why is because you know, it's always say 677 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: he's always watching, He's got this I don't know, this 678 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 3: feeling of you know, lingering, and it's like, well, he 679 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 3: hasn't harmed me yet, so what what other role could 680 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 3: he have? Well? Maybe he's just a standing guard. Well, 681 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 3: just so you know, you're not the first one, and 682 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure you won't be the last. All right, continuing, 683 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: what's this next? The next letter, the next letter, the 684 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 3: next line. He is still very scary when he is around. Well, okay, 685 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: so are we having this conversation. Okay, I'm listening. I'm listening. 686 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: But I believe he keeps trying to warn me of things, 687 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 3: and I believe he is trying to communicate to me 688 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: about quote something, but I can't decode his symbolism. My 689 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 3: stepfather was a non denominational pastor, and I grew up 690 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: in the church. I know the Old and New Testament 691 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: almost by heart, so I do have a quote unquote 692 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 3: religious background. My seven year old son has just had 693 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 3: an encounter with him, oh while we were camping. Oh. Sorry, 694 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 3: it just goes through the generations. Unfortunately, it really does 695 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 3: happen that way. And my son he described him perfectly. 696 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 3: He has been turning on my lights while we sleep. 697 00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 3: He usually plays with electrical things. There is so many 698 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 3: many things I could tell you. I want to speak 699 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 3: to him. Oh, comeing, come on, come on, come on, 700 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 3: come on, come on, and find out why he has 701 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: saved me and warned me so many times in my life. Now, 702 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 3: if that's true, and this is not just an element 703 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 3: of your interpretation, why didn't you share those stories? What 704 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 3: did he what did he do? A camping trip? Your 705 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 3: son saw him? Okay, but he saved you, suare please do? 706 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 3: I've heard that before as well, and with every favor 707 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: he does, you owe him. Unfortunately. Now, remember we are 708 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 3: talking about something that calls himself the devil. Okay, he 709 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 3: literally calls himself that pridefully, and he's doing you favors. 710 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I just that's not good. 711 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 3: It's not good. Okay, so many things are gonna tell 712 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: me okay blah blah blah. Many times I fear if 713 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 3: I was to try and get rid of him out 714 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 3: of my life, then I would be helpless. Codependency not good. 715 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 3: But it is a phenomenon I can't explain, and especially 716 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 3: when all the stuff I read says the hat man 717 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 3: is evil. I don't exactly agree. Phil, Hmm, you don't 718 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: exactly agree. But did your son feel warm and fuzzy 719 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 3: about him? And you hear about that he's very scary 720 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 3: when he's around. Okay, Why if he's there and he's 721 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 3: just saved you so much. You know, it's like, please understand, 722 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 3: because he hasn't caused you direct harm doesn't mean he's good. 723 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: He's working his way. He'll take a lifetime sometimes it 724 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 3: work and wear people down. And now he found access 725 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 3: to your son. Is that okay? You know he is perverted. 726 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 3: He is and I hate to say that, but he 727 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 3: has a knack for causing harm in all kinds of ways, 728 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 3: all kinds of scar tissue that he could build up, 729 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 3: he will do it, and he wears you down. He 730 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 3: just wears you down until the point that you know, oh, 731 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 3: now you see him as being a good guy. Potentially 732 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 3: all right, you don't exactly agrees evil, but potentially he's 733 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: not this or potentially he's not that. But please be 734 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 3: weary and leary that he is. He is not a friend. 735 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: Did you invite him? Did you willingly invite him? Did 736 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 3: you want him to meet your son? Was this an introduction? Introductory? 737 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, expose like, oh, and by the way, 738 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 3: here's my boy. Go ahead and have Adam for the 739 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: rest of his life like he did to me, so 740 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 3: he can be protected. Right, do not feel helpless okay, 741 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 3: because one thing I learned, and it seems so strange, 742 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 3: but this is absolutely what happened to me. I was 743 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 3: terrified at the dark because I'd seen what was in 744 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: the dark. I didn't want to be in the dark. 745 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: And I knew I had to get over that because 746 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: that old saying of once a student is ready, the 747 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 3: teacher will appear, right. And once I learned to get 748 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 3: rid of that fear of these dark things, I started 749 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 3: to have experiences with the light of things, and I 750 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 3: mean angelic, I mean Jesus encounters and you know, all 751 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 3: these different things, and and no, I don't do drugs, 752 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 3: and no, I'm not into strange things and I'm not 753 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 3: I don't even know how to meditate. H just being honest, 754 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 3: I'm not even good at that. So when you shut 755 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 3: down something like him, you can and will be okay 756 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 3: because there are bigger and better protectors out there for 757 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 3: you and your son. You don't want it to be 758 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 3: wearing a gaucho hat and blackness and red glowing eyes. No, 759 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 3: you do not want that. And yeah, I've said many 760 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 3: times here on the show on how to protect yourself. 761 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 3: You can find a document on my Facebook group which 762 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 3: is Shadow People and hat Man experience er and uh yeah, 763 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 3: and if you send me a message anywhere on any 764 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 3: of social media at one Heidi Hollis. Put a one 765 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: in front of my name on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, 766 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 3: all of it. You know, it's all at one Heidi Hollis, 767 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 3: and I'll send over the way to get rid of 768 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 3: him and watch watch what happens. Okay, And I want 769 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 3: to tell everybody you know, be sure to go to 770 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 3: my website Shadowfolks dot com or Heidihollis dot com and 771 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 3: tell me your stories, tell me what you want me 772 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 3: to talk about here on this show, and I will 773 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 3: definitely I've on into it. And again, I really really 774 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 3: humbled that you guys trust me to send over what 775 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 3: it is that's your experience, and you know, I'm just 776 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 3: doing what I can to lighten the load of others 777 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 3: out there. And yeah, this stuff is heavy, but I 778 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 3: got this. I've got the positive on my side and 779 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 3: all about my beliefs and faith and God and Jesus 780 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 3: and all that good stuff. I always say, sprinkles from 781 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 3: Jesus on it. Antha, You'll be okay. All right, you guys, 782 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 3: we have come to the bottom of another fabulous program 783 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 3: you have been listening to. Dark It Comes Light with 784 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 3: me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio, a Coast to Coast 785 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 3: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. 786 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 787 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 788 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 789 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com