WEBVTT - Rep. Nancy Mace - December 20th, Hour 2 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:02.600 I got to wrap up in a few moments upstairs, 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 but I expect that we will be proceeding forward. We 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.120 will not have a government shutdown, and we will meet 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.640 our obligations for our farmers who need aid, for the 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.360 disaster victims all over the country, and for making sure 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.560 that military and essential services and everyone who relies upon 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.239 the federal government for a paycheck is paid over the holidays. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.439 I'll give you the more details here in just a 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:23.040 few moments. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:23.640 How do you talk? 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.600 This is Peter Schweitzer, that's Eric Eggers, and we were 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.640 just listening to Speaker Johnson, who is saying that there 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.920 is going to be no government shutdown. I guess the 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.040 devil is going to be in the details. And we 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.120 have a great guest to talk to us exactly about 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.400 what's going on in Capitol Hill. Congresswoman Nancy Mace is 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.000 joining us. She's on the House Oversight Committee, the House 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.960 Armed Services Committee, the House Veterans Affairs Committee. She's a 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.040 congresswoman from South Carolina. A Congressman Mace, thanks for joining us. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.080 Are you as optimistic as Speaker Johnson is on the 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.360 fate of this bill. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.720 Well, he has a better whip count than I do. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:02.600 It's hard to say at this point, but I think 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.959 you'll need a number of Democrats to ensure that there 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.360 is no government shutdown based on the way things are 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.240 going this afternoon, we'll see. We don't have a time 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.679 on when we are voting, and haven't seen the final 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.560 language in the legislation. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.839 So you've been very principled in that that you actually 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.759 voted against a bill that President Trump wanted and voted 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.240 on principle, which I think is great. What is your 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.800 view of the debt ceiling? There has been this kind 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.480 of weird sort of alliance almost between Donald Trump and 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.600 Elizabeth Warren Democrats who say let's get rid of the 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.119 debt ceiling, or at least suspend it. Do you think 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.000 that's going to happen? And what's your view on the 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:42.600 debt ceiling? 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.760 Well, you know, in terms of the debt seling, what 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.280 that does was the way that they did it the 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.320 other day, is suspending it where there was no limit 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.280 on the debt for two years. I mean, it could 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.120 be an extra one trillion, it could be an extra 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.000 ten trillion dollars because there were no guardrails in place. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.320 I would only be willing to negotiate some type of 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.960 measure on the debt ceiling if we have actual spending cuts. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.800 We've been down this path before, we did a debt 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.200 ceiling previously, where we had no limit on the debt, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.200 and you know this is going to fast track us. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.000 So over fifty two million dollars of debt, we're going 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:18.519 to be robbing Social Security and other folks. It's money, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.440 taxpayers money to pay for the debt that we're incurring 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.840 right now. Because Republicans and Democrats alike can't be trusted 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.440 on spending, which is why if we're going to lift 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.720 the debt ceiling, we have to have real spending cuts, 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.040 not just play money, not fuzzy math, but actual, real 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.280 legitimate spending cuts. And so that's my take. And of course, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.160 looking at the first two CRS, the first R spending 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.360 was the same level as the second CR spending. It 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.040 was another myth that was sort of out there that 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.160 because it was one hundred and sixteen page bill versus 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.360 sixteen hundred pages, but somehow it's spent less. So it 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.240 wasn't about the pages. It was actually about what's actually 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.440 in the bill on the pages. And I read both those, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.960 so I'm well versed in and what it actually did 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.080 and did not do. And unfortunately, you know we're in 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.280 this situation. I'm going to forego my pay if the 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.280 government shuts down, I won't be taken a pay check. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.519 You read both bills that put you in the profound minority, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.720 I think, unfortunately for members of Congress. And you were 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.880 a leader, and thank you for just kind of being 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.040 open and honest with the American people about going through 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.440 the original bill that was fifteen hundred and forty seven pages, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.200 and you highlighted so many of the provisions that people 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.400 found objectionable, including the pay raise for members of Congress 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.920 and lots of other items of pork. I guess my 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:31.000 question to you is this. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.399 There was so much woke in that. But I don't 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.160 know how that bill passed Republican muster. I mean, they 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:40.960 literally renamed criminal offenders to justice individual. I'm sorry, but 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.440 if you're a racist and murderer, pedophile, you're not a 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.640 justice individual. You're a criminal and should be in jail. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.120 So the question is, how did that happen? How does 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.440 stuff like that get into a bill that anyone had 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.880 with a Republican Speaker of the House, where there's a 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.440 reasonable expectation that it will pass. And you know, the 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.720 conversation we've had in the first hour was we kind 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.040 of contrasted this very open and honest and transparent debate 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.360 about this spending bill with the Wall Street journals reporting 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.240 over the last three years about the effort to conceal 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.240 Joe Biden and all of his kind of cognitive decline. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.120 And so, you know, the American people have been lied to. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.400 Do you think that the elites that are in charge 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.720 think they can just still lie to people? And if so, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.120 does the fact that we're having this debate now suggest 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.080 that that time is over? 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:25.360 No? 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.880 One percent and the lies continue. I sat in meetings 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.799 today with groups of Republicans where the lie was stated 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.919 that if we do single subject bills tonight, do a 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.240 claim CR, do a separate disaster relief fill, and a 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:43.679 separate farm extension or farm type bill, that the Senate 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.200 could only take up one bill. That is a lie. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.480 There is nothing limiting the Senate from taking up three bills. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.239 We also as a House could do three separate single 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.600 subject bills and then do what's called a MERV a 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.920 erv And what the MERV would do is we would 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.479 do this three separate boats and then combine the bills 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.360 together as they were sent over to the Senate, so 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.600 they only have one vote. So like, there are many 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.479 options in vehicles, in ways that we can go about this. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.200 But again, Republicans were lied to. Because they were lied to, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.080 they got scared, and so it sounds like we're going 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:19.159 to do the CR again, the CR that we did 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.800 last night, but no debt ceiling. So it's just the 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.640 same thing a different year. And it's just like my 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.200 frustration is that nothing has changed since November. This is 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.920 the same we did before, and Republicans ran on being 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.760 conservative physically fiscally. Republicans ran on we're going to cut spending, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.200 and yet we're going to saddle President Trump and the 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.520 new Trump administration with all of Joe Biden's spending agenda 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.000 going into his first year in office. And I think 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.040 that is a mistake on our part and we can 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.040 do better. And if not, the promise we made to 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.080 the American people, we promised them we would cut spending. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.440 That is not what we're doing today. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.200 So Peter Schwiz and I do a podcast on kind 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.320 of government corruption, and so I apologize for not being 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.599 an expert on congressional procedures, But why could the Senate 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.719 only take one vote? Are they like stuck in traffic? 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.720 Is like, what's the problem with their schedule that they 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.520 might not be allowed to take more than one vote? 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.120 But that was the lie. That was the lie to 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.000 Republicans that they could only do the Senate can only 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.240 take up one bill. That's not true. That's what I'm 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.839 we were told. I was. I heard the lie in 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:23.080 two meetings with people today and it scared them. Yeah's makeup. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.719 Here's my concern, Congresswoman. And maybe I'm being too cynical, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.200 maybe I'm not optimistic enough. I'm wondering when we have 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.000 the new Congress come in with a Republican majority in 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.000 the House, which is going to be slender, but we 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.560 now have a Republican majority in the Senate, is this 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.599 actually going to be easier or are we going to 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.400 be having the same problems? I mean, is the problem 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.480 not just the Democrats right now, but you have a 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.040 certain group of Republicans who want to do the talk 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.400 and get the political benefit about cutting spending, but who 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.520 actually don't want to do it. So is it going 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.000 to get better in a Trump administration? Or we're going 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.080 to be lagging with the same problem. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.040 I think that the President will have challenges with certain 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.479 members of our party getting his agenda done, and that 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.720 is in my worry from day one. I've been screaming 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.240 about it for weeks now. I love the idea of Doge. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.360 I love Elon and the Beck and Trump weighing in 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.160 on how we're going to turn our country around. But 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.760 there are a subset of people within our parties, certainly 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.960 aided by Democrats and people on the left, who will 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.400 do everything in their power to stop the American First agenda. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.440 And part of that agenda is to cut spending. But 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.800 you know, what I've seen today was a time honored 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.160 tradition of disinformation up here on the hill, you know, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.960 to trick House members into accepting a bad deal, to 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.640 accepting bad terms. And I think there are that powerful 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.280 forces out there that are in the ear of people 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.040 in leadership, and that will be in the administration not 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.440 telling these people the truth, not telling them how it 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.600 works and how we get this done, because this is 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.880 not cutting spending, this is not putting the American people first. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.440 It's going to saddle us with more debt. And we 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.920 have to take spending and the debt. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.720 Seriously, we're talking with Representative Nancy Mace of South Carolina 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.960 Representative base. You're talking to the country right now, you're 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.560 on national radio. I mean, be as honest as you 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.240 want to be. Who are what are these forces that 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.440 get in people's ears? I mean, how does this stuff happen? 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.280 How is it that you know, lies can be embraced 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.600 and then foisted upon the American people by the people 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.280 those people elect to be in charge. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.000 Well, I mean we heard. I mean I was in 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.600 a meeting today and I said this is this isn't 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.400 really true with the Senate. Another person came up behind 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.959 me to say, that's correct. They can do more than one. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.520 I confirmed it with a senator as well. But there 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.079 are people out there that it could be, fellow members 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.480 of Congress within our party. It's also people who are 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.840 on the staff of leadership, the offices of leadership that 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.080 we have here. But this is just what they do. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.560 You'll get lied to so that you get scared and 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.319 you get forced into a corner. You take a deal 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.360 you should have never negotiated with in the first place. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.000 And you know, I've seen a lot. I've been around 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.319 a little bit, and I know how to call a 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.600 spade a space, which is why I sometimes get, you know, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.720 get in trouble. But I also want to tell the 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.720 American people the true It's why I dissected the fifteen 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.520 hundred and forty seven page bill to show people what 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.680 was actually in it and why it was so bad. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.480 And when I said yesterday that the second CR spent 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.080 the same exact amount of money as the first one, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.079 no one could believe it. But that's why you had 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.920 to have someone read both bills and be able to 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.960 do the addition, do the map to tell you what 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.280 was actually in there and what was being it was 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:28.880 being spent on. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.400 So this new bill that is being offered, are you 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.959 going to be voting for it? Are you going to 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.120 be voting against it? And what do you think Speaker 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.199 Johnson's fate is right now? Given the turmoil and the 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.760 tumult that we're seeing in the House. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.840 I think I think Johnson's safe as Speaker. I don't 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.520 think that is up for grabs at this juncture. I'm 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.680 still waiting on the final language of the bill. I 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.560 will look through it if we have time. The other 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.360 night we had about an hour and so we were, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.040 you know, scanning it very quickly. I hope we have 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.320 more time than that. I'm alee know on this thing. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.959 I have not ever voted for a continuing resolution. I've 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.120 never voted for a CR. I've never voted for an 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.240 omnibus or a minibus. But I have always supported the 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.959 law that says the nineteen seventy four Budget and Control Act, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.400 which said Congress needs to have a budget and you've 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.200 got to have twelve appropriations bills to fund that budget, 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.160 which is something we have not done in decades, and 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.880 back to last time we did anything like that, Democrats 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.600 were in charge. The last time we balanced the budget 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.040 was a ninety editor Bill Clinton when Newt Gingrich was 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.040 a Speaker. So we've got a lot of work to 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.360 do as a party to tell the American people that 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.440 you have stopped selling them a bed of lies, a 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.320 bill of goods that isn't true. We need to have 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.320 meaningful reform if we're going to do debt feeling, have 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.320 spending cuts, and make sure that we're cutting all of 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.280 the waste. And I hope that dose has a big 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.080 say in what we do in the next six months, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.680 because it's going to matter. We have very little time 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.800 and we have to get to work as soon as 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.280 Trump is sworn into office. There's no time to waste. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.079 Donald Trump has not been sworn yet, as you noted, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.760 but he did seem to endorse the bill last night 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.480 that you voted against. When you vote no on something, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.240 obviously it's a brand new era, it's an unprecedented time 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.719 this way. Are you hearing from the president. Are you 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.599 hearing from any of his staff when you vote no 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.800 on this? And is that? Are they lobbying you on this? 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.360 No, No, not at all. I haven't heard from from 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.240 anyone in that candid. In fact, our leadership on the hill, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.440 we're not whipping votes last night for that bill. Last night, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.240 nobody whipped my Interesting far as I know, no one 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.720 was zipping anyone's votes last night, which I found interesting. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.520 Yeah, that is very interesting. We're talking with Congresswoman Nancy Mace. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.240 We appreciate the principled stance that you take in Washington, 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.760 d C. We know it's a tumultuous time. We appreciate 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.520 you tracking with us what is going on, and we 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.959 will look forward to the vote that is coming up. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.360 Thank you a congresswoman for joining us Thank you so much, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.600 and thank you for listening to the Sean Handerity Show. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.480 We're going to be back after this break. We've got 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.360 more guests, we've got more comments. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.480 Well, and we have a guest that is actually a 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.760 current member of the United States Senate. So when she's 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.920 saying what they're hearing about what the Senate can or 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.920 cannot do, we will hear from rand Paul in the 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.520 next hour. We'll ask him directly. So, Hey, you know 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.120 this is what it is, the public form. We're trying 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.679 to figure this out together America. He's Peter Schweizer. I'm 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.880 Eric Egers. This is the Sean Handy Show. We'll be 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:14.320 right back. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.120 This is Peter Schweizer. I'm here with Eric Eggers. We're 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.920 filling in on the Sean Hannerty Show. We have asked 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.040 you to come in to the program and talk about 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.360 your theory of drones. And we have a caller from Tallahassee, Florida. John, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.480 tell us your theory about what's going on with the drones. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.400 It's Chris. Sorry, Chris, tell me your theory about the drones. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:37.000 You got it, it's Chris. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.000 Well. Listen, I got a friend who lives on a 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:45.119 little farm in Montana, and she's been documenting UFO sightings 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.520 for the last several weeks. And these are not the 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.440 same as what everybody's talking about in New Jersey. She's 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.679 got him on iPhone, she's got him on go pro, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.560 and she went out and got a high powered telescope 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.400 and put it on him. And she described I did 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.720 with as looking like the gravitron from the State Fair. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.120 Now what's really interesting is there, just in that same direction, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.640 there's an Air Force base. She also called everybody she 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.280 could think of to tell them. Nobody was interested, and 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.120 just a couple of days ago, finally a government agency 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.800 gave her a call. She's pretty smooth, but. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.480 I know your theory is that this is this is 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.400 not something from an adversarial power, This is not something 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.800 that our government is doing. Your theory is that this 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.079 may be extraterrestrial. Right, That's one of the theories that's 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:39.520 out there. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.680 That's what I'm thinking, And I will say this. After 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.040 she got the call. The next night, she saw what 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.120 she described as an Air Force drone probing the area 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.520 where she's been seeing these things for weeks. So I'm 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.599 of the mind that it could be extra trust or 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.560 some crazy technology that we just aren't aware of yet, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.760 and it seems like maybe even our military not quite 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:02.920 sure what it is either. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.800 Yeah, Chris, thank you very much for the phone calls. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.160 It's one of two things. Obviously, it could be something 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:09.920 that we don't know what it is, or it could 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.120 be a thing that the military and our government decides 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:13.720 not to tell us about. If one of the common 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.080 themes of this program is you know, what do we 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.080 know about Nancy Mace, which is very honest with us 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.240 about the negotiations happening in Congress. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.360 It's transparency, and we also. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.880 It's being juxtaposed with the fact that Biden administration lied 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.560 to us about how healthy the president is. If my 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.920 wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, they also 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.440 lied to us about these things. So what concerns me 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.560 is there's actually a quote from Nancy Mace on the 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.080 drone topic, and she says, my concern is if it's 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.800 not a craft from outer space, because it has to 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.560 be on the table. Is it technologies at ours? Is 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.880 it brushes at China? But the point is that the 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.120 Department of Defense needs to answer questions from Congress. So 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.880 it sounds like even they don't know, and so I think, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.000 you know, it's a viable question, right, Hey, what do 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.480 we know about this and what don't we know? I 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.240 think you're the when it told me that the FAA 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.200 just banned drones in New Jersey. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.120 That's right, the fa band after saying that this was nothing, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.000 nothing to see, now they've banned it. And look, this 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.400 is the problem. When you don't actually give honest answers 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.280 to people, all kinds of theories can develop. That's the 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.600 nature of it. So truth abhorrors a vacuum. You've got 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.880 to let people know what's going on. I can't think 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.960 of any reason why they can't tell us what's going on. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.960 So we're gonna have to see how this all plays out. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.200 But I think people are gonna get more suspicious, and 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.360 this is why they're distrustive of their government. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.080 Well, who's not distrustive is Peter Schweitzer's happy because he 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.760 finally got to take a call on drones and the 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.640 trying to do it for an hour and a half. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.880 When we come back, we're going to talk about a 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.400 different conspiracy. They're gonna talk to Gerald Posner about what 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.320 we know and don't know about the person that took 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.880 a shot at Donald Trump this summer. Some interesting questions remain. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.880 We'll be right back after this on the Sean Handy 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:50.760 radio shows. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.720 Peter Schweizer, Eric Eggers. We're filling in for Sean hannerity. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.760 We do the Drill Down podcast. You can subscribe to 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.720 it on any podcast platform that's out there, and we 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.000 are going to be talking next. I think about a 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.280 topic that's been ignored frankly quite a bit. I mean, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.560 remember I remember where I was when the Donald Trump 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.480 assassination attempt took place, the first one, the one where 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.240 he was wounded in the ear, and it was huge, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.680 massive news in July, and it seems to have kind 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:22.080 of disappeared from the national conscience. But also we don't 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.120 seem to be getting a lot of updates of what 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:26.200 actually happened. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.160 No, it's a great point. And at the time I 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.840 thought that the coverage of the Trump assassination attempt, because 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.560 like you, I also remember where I was. It was 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.720 massive news. But there was a lot happening because then 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.520 you know, Joe Biden was still in the race, and 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.320 then he got out of the race, and that seemed 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.440 to shift it and it felt like covering the Trump assassination, 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.480 which was a largely positive story for Donald Trump, seemed 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.520 like the media helping the Trump campaign. It was a 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.680 positive story, so almost like that you can't cover real 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.160 news because it's good for Donald Trump, and we know 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.800 firsthand how much the meat is not into doing that, 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.080 and so that I thought that was one reason that 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.360 went away. But then when the United Healthcare shooting happened 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.640 and we instantly within forty eight hours, knew everything about 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.639 the dude that did that, and we still know so 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.359 little about the person that took a shot at the 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.679 next president of the United States. I think it puts it, 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.679 to quote Kamala Harris, into a different context. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.080 Exactly exactly. Well, we have a great guest now to 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.600 talk about this. He's literally one of my favorite writers, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.840 Gerald Posner. He's an investigative journalist. He's written sort of 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.560 the definitive books, I would argue on a series of 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.239 high profile assassinations. He's the author of Case Closed, Lee 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.040 Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK, which came out 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.080 in nineteen ninety three, and also Killing the Dream, James 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.879 Earl Ray and the Assassination of Martin Luther King Junior. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.199 And what's interesting about Gerald is we had him on 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.800 our podcast after the Trump assassination attempt, and Gerald, who's 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.679 very level headed, very detailed and focused on facts, who's 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.080 not a conspiracy theorist. He was kind of surprised at 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.160 the ineptness in which the Secret Service and the federal 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.280 authorities we're investigating the Trump assassination. So we want to 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.320 have Gerald back again to get an update. Where are 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.400 we what do we know, what don't we know? How 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.200 things might be going awry? Gerald? Are you there? Thanks 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:13.880 for joining us. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.040 Yeah, I am Peter, Eric. Thanks so much for talking 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.000 about this, because you're right, it's sort of like it 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.439 fell off the shelf in terms of focus from the media, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.800 and there are so many other subjects that jumped ahead 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.840 of it, and that of course, you know, it's the 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.080 greatest dereliction of duty I've ever seen from the Secret Service, 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.919 and is that first assassination attempt, especially so when it 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:41.480 came so close to Trump actually being hit by the 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.960