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Speaker 1: From Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: Live rob Television say at Hollywood, haven't.

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Speaker 4: Need everybody, no man.

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Speaker 5: Listen to the story about a man named Jed or

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Speaker 5: not near, barely kept the standish.

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Speaker 4: Head, just a good old boyd never meeting no home.

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Speaker 6: It's all you never saw me in trouble, where the

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Speaker 7: Was both.

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Speaker 6: Welcome by your dreams were your ticket welcome.

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Speaker 8: I say this calls for action, and now in the

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Speaker 8: bus I'm meaning on the air in Cincinnati, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Double you came on, Bellow.

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Speaker 9: Played songs, my name parade, NIC's.

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Speaker 10: Why gosh we hadn't made We.

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Speaker 9: Talked a lot about race on this show, and I

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Speaker 9: wish we didn't have to, because we talk about race

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Speaker 9: too much in this country. The reason I have to

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Speaker 9: talk about it is because nobody else will be honest

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Speaker 9: about it, and blacks and white liberals are bullies about it,

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Speaker 9: and I kind of fashion myself as the only one

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Speaker 1: But we're about to find an exception to that role.

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Speaker 9: The fact of the matter is if you were to

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Speaker 9: talk about blacks generally, you've got PhDs and dropouts, you've

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Speaker 9: got people on death row for multiple murders, and you've

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Speaker 9: got the nicest guy you ever want to meet and

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Speaker 9: you want him to be your neighbor.

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Speaker 1: And everything in between.

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Speaker 9: But the data would show blacks are doing worse today

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Speaker 9: than they've ever done. And a lot of that is

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Speaker 9: single parenthood. That is a huge, huge issue in this country.

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Speaker 9: Single parenthood, huge issue. But we do this Black History

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Speaker 9: Month thing and we always pick people that we think

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Speaker 9: are real, really worthy of.

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Speaker 1: Being held up for Black History Month.

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Speaker 9: And here's a pastor, Alton Wilson, Pastor Alton Williams with

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Speaker 9: a history lesson. He is the pastor of World Overcomers Church.

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Speaker 9: Here's a black guy laying it down about the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 9: You're gonna want to listen to this and share it.

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Speaker 11: The Democratic Party, I'm gonna say it tonight so that

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Speaker 11: you won't be confused, is the anti christ Party. It

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Speaker 11: is anti family, and I'm gonna say this. You're not

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Speaker 11: gonna believe it, but it is anti black folk. You

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Speaker 11: are only needed for votes, You are only loved when

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Speaker 11: it's time to get your votes. There's no real care

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Speaker 11: about you. And see we still stuck and we got

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Speaker 11: that thing ingrained in us that this is the party

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Speaker 11: for the black man.

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Speaker 1: It is not.

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Speaker 11: The party has changed Black people really, to be honest

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Speaker 11: with you, have never been the priority. They have only

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Speaker 11: been used. Go back and look at the Civil Rights

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Speaker 11: Act of nineteen sixty four. We've all given Democrats credit

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Speaker 11: for that, but Johnson was the one that wanted to

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Speaker 11: pass it, but he couldn't get enough Democrat votes to

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Speaker 11: pass it. It was the Republicans that pushed and passed

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Speaker 11: the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act. Golden Knight and

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Speaker 11: in there nineteen sixty He couldn't even get enough Democrats

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Speaker 11: Republican senators in order to help him out. They are

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Speaker 11: anti life. The party pushes stuff. There's anti life. It

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Speaker 11: pushes anti morality because most of their policies in morrol

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Speaker 11: that pushes sexual perversion. It is the party of death.

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Speaker 11: Why do you say that passed it. If you go back,

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Speaker 11: you'll see slavery started with the Democratic Party, and we

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Speaker 11: saw many slaves that died. We also saw under Jim Crow.

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Speaker 11: Jim Crow was established by Democrats, and we saw under

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Speaker 11: we're seeing today how many babies. African American people are

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Speaker 11: giving up their future because they won't have in another

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Speaker 11: This is exactly what the party wants. So it is

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Speaker 11: It is a party that is against black families. Look

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Speaker 1: Like we should have now.

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Speaker 11: We did good up in the early nineteen hundreds nineteen

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Speaker 11: twenty thirty, our families were pretty good and pretty strong

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Speaker 11: during that time. But what happened was they brought the

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Speaker 11: War on poverty. This was Democrat bought the War on poverty.

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Speaker 11: You know what they did. They gave money to fix

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Speaker 11: they took one key out that they understood was the

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Speaker 11: the home. Ladies will give you the money, but you

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Speaker 11: children now were robbed of them having a father. And

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Speaker 11: so that kept once again another policy that has hurt

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Speaker 11: our families. And then even today Black Lives Matter, which

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Speaker 11: was also supported by the Democratic Party, did not they

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Speaker 11: had any They have particular policies that they were against

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Speaker 11: the nuclear family that had the father at the head.

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Speaker 11: They did not believe in patriarchy. And so we looked

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Speaker 11: down through the years and we've seen the party destroy

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Speaker 11: our families and people don't see it because they don't

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Speaker 11: understand truth. This is why policy is so important because

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Speaker 11: it should be about America first.

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Speaker 1: That's like all of you.

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Speaker 11: And your homes, your home, your children and what you're

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Speaker 11: responsible for is got to be first before you go

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Speaker 11: and try to help everybody else, so we need to

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Speaker 11: take in order to be a blessing to other citizens

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Speaker 11: from other nations. We got to take care of American arts.

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Speaker 9: Bring it on.

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Speaker 7: What would you do with the brain if you had one?

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Speaker 12: Bring it on?

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Speaker 4: Because there is nothing here.

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Speaker 9: Michael, A parasite walks into a bar. The bartman says,

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Speaker 9: we don't serve your type here.

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Speaker 13: Parasite replies, well, you're not a very good host.

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Speaker 9: Did you hear about the butcher who backed into his

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Speaker 1: He got a little behind in his.

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Speaker 9: Work story from a few days ago, but worth noting

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Speaker 9: the oldest lobster fisherman.

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Speaker 1: In the world, known in Maine as the Lobster Lady.

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Speaker 9: This is like our friend the shrimp Pops who does

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Speaker 9: the shrimping with his hot daughter in law down in Gallison.

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Speaker 9: The Lobster Lady has passed away at the age of

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Speaker 9: one hundred and five. Pops, you got a long way

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Speaker 9: to go. She started lobster trapping when she was eight

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Speaker 9: years old, so she spent almost one hundred years on

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Speaker 9: the water with the lobsters. She previously said that when

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Speaker 9: she first started catching lots in the twenties, it was

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Speaker 9: considered pauper food. I have made this point on the

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Speaker 9: air before, and people get very angry that lobster was

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Speaker 9: not rich people's food, because lobster is not something that

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Speaker 9: if you bite into it, you think to yourself, this

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Speaker 9: is delicious, this is wonderful. It was filler food. It

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Speaker 9: was cheap food. So the whole story, there's document it's

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Speaker 9: a documentary about this. It's fantastic about how it came

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Speaker 9: to be known as rich people food.

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Speaker 1: There's other things like this as well.

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Speaker 9: And when people are told that something is rich people food,

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Speaker 9: they decide they really like it, because if I really

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Speaker 9: I have good taste like the rich people.

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Speaker 4: And that's what they do.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, here's the New Center main story about about the

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Speaker 9: nice lady, oh everything the world.

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Speaker 14: When we first met Virginia Oliver Jinny to her friends

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Speaker 14: in the summer of twenty seventeen, I bought a lobster

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Speaker 14: boat named after him.

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Speaker 7: Why am I going in the boat late? The Cardinal

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Speaker 7: I always do all my life on up.

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Speaker 14: The Beak, the same boat she and her husband went

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Speaker 14: out on to tent their traps until he died. The

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Speaker 14: when she was ninety seven and he was seventy four.

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Speaker 15: We usually go Mindy chosen Wednesday. Sometimes we go another day.

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Speaker 14: And while the two works together like a well oiled machine,

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Speaker 14: there was one limit to their partnership.

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Speaker 15: Mine is mine, and isn't here Ry here we are,

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Speaker 15: so we don't share these.

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Speaker 4: This isn't a charity.

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Speaker 15: Now. Whatever you get one might get more in the other.

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Speaker 14: Off Through it all, mother and son made a great team,

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Speaker 14: even when most of their contemporaries had long given up

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Speaker 1: First, I don't know about that. Really good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're seventy fout.

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Speaker 1: For sure, Chevy boy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how have you gone?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why I know something.

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Speaker 5: Keep going, Although I.

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Speaker 1: Don't, I can remember right up straight.

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Speaker 14: Four years later we went back to Rockland to check

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Speaker 14: on Ginny and nothing much had changed. Jenny was one

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Speaker 15: And we just have to go, you know, keep going,

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Speaker 15: O God, Otherwise you wouldn't you know you've been in

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Speaker 6: Had what you weren't had special life, especial love.

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Speaker 1: When do you think you're going to stop lob string?

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 15: I remember they're gonna die.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, you know you're not going to live forever,

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Speaker 1: So you know why let ball there?

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Speaker 9: Why? Indeed, I came across this audio file and I

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Speaker 9: thought it was really good. The guy who's going to

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Speaker 9: deliver this is a South Carolina Democratic state senator named

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Speaker 9: John Cea Land. The third this comes from twenty eleven,

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Speaker 9: but it's actually a recitation of something that had been

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Speaker 9: said by a Mississippi politician some sixty years earlier. But

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Speaker 9: it's so clever, so very clever, that I had to

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Speaker 9: share it with you now, and I hope some of

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Speaker 9: you will enjoy it half as much as I have.

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Speaker 1: I have sent this to everybody I.

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Speaker 3: Know side of the chamber of a minute ago when

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Speaker 3: y'all voted on that matter dealing with alcohol, and as

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Speaker 3: I came up the steps, someone asked me if I

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Speaker 3: had walked on that vote. And all of you that

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Speaker 3: have known me in my nil forty years of servicehell

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Speaker 3: have known I have never walked.

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Speaker 8: I have never.

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Speaker 3: Sides definitionue have never tried to walk both sides of

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Speaker 4: And I was asked out there, what was my staff

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Speaker 4: on liquor? And I want y'all to know.

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Speaker 3: That when you say liquor, if you mean the devil's brew,

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Speaker 3: the poisonous scourge, the.

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Speaker 1: Bloody monster.

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Speaker 3: That defines innocence, dethrones reason, destroys at home, creates misery

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Speaker 3: and poverty, yes, literally takes the bread from the bowels

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, if you are talking about liquor,

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Speaker 3: The day was a man to magnify his joy and

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I had given you my stand and I clearly come

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Speaker 1: Now that was given.

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Speaker 7: Graham India.

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Speaker 4: If you are what's an estate?

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Speaker 7: Will you be leaving from Orange, Texas?

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Speaker 1: Orange?

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Speaker 7: Uh? Huh?

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Speaker 8: And I need to go over at Berdie Lubama burden

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Speaker 8: being my nineteen children's and we need to leave Monday morning.

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Speaker 4: You were leaving from Odessa, No Orange.

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Speaker 8: You our eight oh Ira a n g E and

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Speaker 8: to come over. We just hadn't went because of her antitoods. Frankly,

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Speaker 8: that's the problem is she just she won't ask wrong.

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Speaker 8: come out and with all these children, I wanna make

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Speaker 8: sure of the price before I book it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you don't book tickets. You go to the terminal

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Speaker 4: at least one hour.

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Speaker 10: Prior to buy your tickets.

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Speaker 13: How old are the children?

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Speaker 8: Oh lord?

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Speaker 11: Listene?

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Speaker 8: The youngest sweat is five, oldest one about seventeen? Okay,

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Speaker 8: rising as an adult?

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Speaker 7: The seventeen dude?

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Speaker 13: Uh huh?

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Speaker 8: And how about sixteen?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 13: Ages two to eleven ride as children?

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Speaker 8: I think they're all under eleven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, ages two to eleven?

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Speaker 8: Give me the pints on neck okay, and.

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Speaker 7: I might bring my good friend.

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Speaker 8: What tuster drink is from Mars to part so check

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Speaker 7: If you have a cock?

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Speaker 8: What would the total be for nineteen children?

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 8: And why tosta from urge to faery to lose that

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Speaker 8: and bank? Okay?

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Speaker 15: Well, I don't have a calculator with me.

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Speaker 7: Just approximated for me.

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Speaker 13: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Y'all going round trip? Uh huh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I unless some of my want to

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Speaker 8: stay with her, I don't care. If they want to

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Speaker 8: stay in her house, that's fine, But I'm only buying

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Speaker 8: for round trip.

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Speaker 4: Okay, for two of those, round trip will be two

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Speaker 4: hundred and four dollars.

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Speaker 7: Oh lord, Okay, that's with the adults.

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Speaker 10: Two adults.

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Speaker 15: Uh huh okay, with nineteen children round trip fifty one

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Speaker 7: Here's what and that's how much it's gonna be?

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Speaker 4: How much is that?

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I'm not there with good with math,

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Speaker 8: I don't have my glasses on. How much would that be?

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Speaker 9: For approximately nine hundred and sixty nine?

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Speaker 4: Oh jeezus, lord.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm gonna have to call her to ask me

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Speaker 8: what she spend it with her again? Okay, and I

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Speaker 8: don't need to make a that's first class of coach.

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Speaker 15: It's no first class of coach in Grayhound, it's first

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Speaker 15: conference or.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay there, okay.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, dollar have a good week year. Say you

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Speaker 8: momming in my exh your door?

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Speaker 9: Okay, I'm not sure how I missed this story in

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Speaker 9: the prep. But let's see. This is gonna be clipping

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Speaker 9: number sixteen Ramon, It's eleven alive Atlanta. Three black Democrat

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Speaker 9: state reps in Georgia have been charged with stealing COVID

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Speaker 9: unemployment assistance, and the former executive with the Atlanta Housing

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Speaker 9: Authority pleaded guilty to stealing more than three hundred thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars in federal housing and pandemic funds. It's almost like

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Speaker 9: we got a cultural problem here. So here's the state,

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Speaker 9: here's the state reps. This story from eleven Alive Atlanta.

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Speaker 16: Well third Georgia state longmaker is now facing federal charges

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Speaker 16: tied to alleged pandemic unemployment fraud. Prosecutor say State Representative

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Speaker 16: Dexter Sharper falsely claimed he was out of work to

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Speaker 16: collect nearly fourteen thousand dollars in emergency benefits. Investigators say Sharper,

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Speaker 16: a Democrat who represents Valdosta, was earning income as a legislator,

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Speaker 16: running a party rental business, and.

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Speaker 1: Working as a musician.

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Speaker 16: Following his federal court hearing today, Sharper declined to comment

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Speaker 16: on the case.

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Speaker 1: Now two other state.

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Speaker 16: Lawmakers also accused of pandemic unemployment fraud, Democratic Representative Sharon Henderson,

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Speaker 16: whose district covers Covington, from former state Representative Karen Bennett,

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Speaker 16: who just resigned on the first day of the year.

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Speaker 9: And this story is from WSBTV. This is the Housing Authority.

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Speaker 17: A former eleant of Housing Authority employee who acts not

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Speaker 17: to be identified, says the allegations leave a lasting stain

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Speaker 17: on the agency meant to help families find stable footing.

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Speaker 12: Does gonna make people question everything about the process the system.

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Speaker 17: On Monday, former Senior Vice President Tracy Jones pleaded guilty

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Speaker 17: to using her position for personal gain. More than sixty

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Speaker 17: three thousand dollars, prosecutors say came after Jones falsified documents

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Speaker 17: to approve her son's girlfriend for Federal Housing vouchers vouchers

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Speaker 17: used to rent a Fayeville home Jones owns. Court documents

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Speaker 17: say Jones even staged a domestic violence incident to help

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Speaker 17: secure voucher approval down in Fayetville.

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Speaker 12: Only were you getting the voucher and given to the

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Speaker 12: you're double dipping.

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Speaker 17: Court records also say Jones used a fake name and

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Speaker 17: in pandemic relief dollars. Then, in twenty twenty two, authority

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Speaker 17: say Jones falsified paperwork again, this time to secure nearly

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Speaker 17: three hundred thousand dollars in a Federal Housing Administration mortgage

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Speaker 12: Only did you take a voucher from a family, that house,

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Speaker 17: And again Jones played guilty to conspiracy to commit theft

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Speaker 17: of government funds, wire fraud, and credit application fraud. Now

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Speaker 17: a judge could sentence her to up to more than

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Speaker 17: The judge will formally sentence her in May.

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Speaker 9: I think we covered this on the Evening show, but

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when it turned out?

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Speaker 4: To me?

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Speaker 9: I'll give you a hint. Ramose sprints is his ribs

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Speaker 5: A newspaper and I wrote it up. I slapped him

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Speaker 9: But when I came to Houston City Council and was

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Speaker 9: I was very concerned with solving problems. What were the

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Speaker 9: If you will that we the governing body of the

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Speaker 9: One of the things I noticed was that there was

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Speaker 9: It meant somebody was murdered. And this guy was always

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Speaker 9: made himself a pest, an annoyance, a bother, and he

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Speaker 9: doesn't care because somebody has to keep doing this, and

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Speaker 9: he's changed jobs.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about why that is.

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Speaker 9: I think it's important because an Ease Parker had something

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Speaker 9: to do with relocating him that was a very negative thing.

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Speaker 9: But we'll talk about that. I think it's a story

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Speaker 9: work telling, and I think it's one of these biographies

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Speaker 9: that doesn't get talked about enough, the kind of people

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Speaker 9: who really make a difference in a community that sometimes

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Speaker 9: I think get overlooked, particularly how long they do it.

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Speaker 9: So Andy Conn is our guest. Let's start with how

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Speaker 9: you got involved as a victim's advocacy. I believe you

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Speaker 9: told me you were a parole officer. Andy, Why don't

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Speaker 9: you just start with your bio.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So, Michael, I came down here to Houston. I'm

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Speaker 7: a native New Yorker, ended up transferring colleges, graduated from

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Speaker 7: University Houston, and my first job out of college was

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Speaker 7: I was a state parole officer, which was great for

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Speaker 7: a number of years, and then it got extremely frustrating,

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Speaker 7: particularly nineteen eighty nine and in nineteen ninety in which

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Speaker 7: basically we were under a quota system of releasing offenders

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Speaker 7: from prison no matter what their offense was. Basically eight

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Speaker 7: out of every ten parole eligible inmate was being released,

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Speaker 7: and many of them were coming back to Harritriscanty and

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Speaker 7: we were given to not so affection to Dick name

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Speaker 7: the paroles paradise and so from someone in the system.

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Speaker 7: At that time, I was known as a i wasmoted

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Speaker 7: to a hearing officer, meaning that I made decisions whether

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Speaker 7: someone on parole should be revoked and go back to

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Speaker 7: prison for violating their conditions and particularly committing new offenses.

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Speaker 7: And around that time a majority of my decisions to

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Speaker 7: send someone back to prison for being overturned by analysts

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Speaker 7: an Austin and it was a case that that kind

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Speaker 7: of was the impetus for me and switching sides. There

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Speaker 7: was a guy who had five convictions of Berkeley of

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Speaker 7: a resident and he'd been to prison multiple times. He

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Speaker 7: was released on parole while on paroli, got convicted of

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Speaker 7: felony theft, did time in the county jail. They elected

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Speaker 7: not to send him back to prison. He got out, absconded,

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Speaker 7: became a fugitive, and this time, while in the commission,

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Speaker 7: I yet another burglary. He killed an eighty two year

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Speaker 7: old woman, and that case ended up in front of me,

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Speaker 7: and I lived it and said, none of this should

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Speaker 7: have ever ever happened, and I decided nobody knew what

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Speaker 7: was going on. Nobody knew we had a quota system.

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Speaker 7: Nobody it was almost like the parole system operated in

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Speaker 7: total seek proceed. And they made a very big mistake.

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Speaker 7: They actually put out a three page memo indicating how

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Speaker 7: many offenders had to be paroled weekly, monthly, no matter

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Speaker 7: what their status was. And I had that in writing

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Speaker 7: and I ended up on a little known show called

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Speaker 7: forty eight Hours. They were out here, they were in

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Speaker 7: Houston doing a segment on Houston crime and parole was

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Speaker 7: a big issue, and somehow they ended up finding me,

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Speaker 7: and the quot memo ended up getting on forty eight Hours,

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Speaker 7: and as I like to say, I exposed the early

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Speaker 7: release problem. They in turn gave me my early releaseise.

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Speaker 7: So in the mayor's race in nineteen ninety one, it

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Speaker 7: was three candidates. The incumbent Kathy Whitmyer, Sylvester Turner, and

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Speaker 7: Bobelinare and Bablonier met with several victims groups. I had

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Speaker 7: started doing volunteer work with organizations like Parents and Murdered Children,

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Speaker 7: MAD People Against Violent Crime, and I was basically became

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Speaker 7: known as a straight shooter, telling victims what really needed

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Speaker 7: they needed to hear, and as someone coming from the system,

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Speaker 7: I developed a pretty good reputation as someone who could

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Speaker 7: be trusted at integrity and I was going to give

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Speaker 7: you the answers that you weren't getting from people inside

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Speaker 7: the system. Vlanier met with these groups and he asked

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Speaker 7: them point blank, if I'm elected mayor, what can I

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Speaker 7: do for you guys? And they said, we'd like to

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Speaker 7: have a staff person out of the Mayor's office to

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Speaker 7: address victims rights in public safety, and Bablonieer, being a

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Speaker 7: man of many, many many words, just went sure he

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Speaker 7: was elected. I interviewed for this position, and you might

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Speaker 7: remember Dave Walden, who was Yeah day. Dave looked at

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Speaker 7: me and in great Dave Walden language, which usually meant

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Speaker 7: every fourth word with some sort of customer, he looked

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Speaker 7: at me and said, I haven't the faintest bleeping, his bleeping,

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Speaker 7: his bleeping ist idea of what you're supposed to do

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Speaker 7: to get the bleep bleep bleep out of my office

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Speaker 7: and do what you can, go do your thing. So

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Speaker 7: I was given a very rare opportunity for anybody in

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Speaker 7: a career to develop something from scratch. They couldn't give

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Speaker 7: me a manual to read. That was no manag I

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Speaker 7: couldn't call New York, LA Chicago and say, how are

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Speaker 7: you guys doing is Nobody in the country had a

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Speaker 7: c at a mayor's office that actually had a victim advocate.

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Speaker 7: So I basically made it up on the fly as

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Speaker 7: to what I was doing. And I learned very early on,

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Speaker 7: if my career is a victim advocate, that the media

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Speaker 7: would be my most powerful allah, a tool, a weptic

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Speaker 7: and properly us.

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Speaker 1: Well let's talk about that. Stay right there. Andy Khan

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Speaker 1: is our guest, a a career, a life that that

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Speaker 1: he kind of.

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Speaker 9: Kind of molded for himself, advocating on the on behalf

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Speaker 9: of families who are caught in a situation they never

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Speaker 9: planned to.

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Speaker 1: More with Andy Khan coming up,