WEBVTT - Liberal Hope Returns as Protests Continue

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media, Kamala Harris and Tim Walls. Little John

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention anything about sweat dripping off his balls.

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<v Speaker 2>He sure did not, And that's the greatest act of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, amongst all of the genocide denial, it takes

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cowardice to really stand up in this crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>But Little John refusing to talk about sweat dripping down

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<v Speaker 2>his balls in the middle of the DNC was a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible mistake here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I didn't know he was going to start

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was going to start that way. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was in pain. Garrison, do you know the

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<v Speaker 2>song we're talking about? What Welcome to What happened here?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Garrison Davis, annoyed with my bosses, Sophie Lichtman and

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>Very old, very old. Remember when Lil John was slightly

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<v Speaker 2>not He was never really that transgressive. Little John's always

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty family friendly. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody replied to the video I post of Little John

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<v Speaker 1>saying maybe the best lil and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, ah, there's I had a soft spot in my

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<v Speaker 2>heart for Lil Wayne, not that he was good, but

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<v Speaker 2>because he's really funny, Like missus officer. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>fun song. That's a fun story about pretending he had

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<v Speaker 2>sex with a police officer.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democratic National Convention continues inside Chicago, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>Lil Wayne not yet present, but maybe night. People say

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<v Speaker 2>Swift might show up soon.

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<v Speaker 1>She well, she she had a couple shows and she

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially get here by tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that's great, that's great. I was actually about Jonathan Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, author of a modest proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but in my heart, I really don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>No, why would she? What does she gain from that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So Tuesday we spent the day split up, mostly with

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<v Speaker 3>me and Robert going to a protest and Sophie entering

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<v Speaker 3>the United Center to watch the lib Utopia unveil, complete

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<v Speaker 3>with an appearance.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so happy Lil John I believe is what he's

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<v Speaker 4>referred to as.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is that is correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, just checking as someone currently wearing a mesh shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He is in your line of descendants, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of your one of your saintedt ancestors.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how I feel about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And we will we will get to the Little John

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<v Speaker 3>anticks Uh specifically with the State of Georgia, which made

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<v Speaker 3>quite a show. Later on in the episode we will

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about that, but first we will be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about what me and Robert spent a good I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>four hours yesterday doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out for closer to eight because I went

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<v Speaker 2>out earlier to look at some stuff I went to.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a pro Israel Free the Hostages event that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to and looked around. Briefly, not a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot to say about it other than some art that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't fully know how to think about yet. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a massive one of the young women that was

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<v Speaker 2>abducted by Hamas that very famously had like blood on

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<v Speaker 2>her grace sweat pants. They had just like a massive

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<v Speaker 2>two story tall pair of gray sweatpants covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't really clear until you got up close

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<v Speaker 2>what it was trying to be. So it was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like it was odd, odd visuals for the event,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say that, but mostly pretty tame. There was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>thirty or forty people there, and that was about two

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<v Speaker 2>three blocks down from the plant side of the protest

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<v Speaker 2>that you and I went to, which was the Centsure Tower,

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<v Speaker 2>which is apparently it's like a mall on the inside

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<v Speaker 2>and a metro station and also several floors mini floors

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<v Speaker 2>of office space. So I'm guessing that the Israeli Consolate

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<v Speaker 2>is a couple of small offices in this big building.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there was a purchase plan for later this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>As me and Sophie were going to get lunch, I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Sophie and I.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw they both just looked at me, deciding who

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to give a turney look to.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>You were the United Kingdom and me correcting Garrison's grammar,

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<v Speaker 2>was the German arm marching into Belgium.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a whole bunch of police vans driving through

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<v Speaker 3>downtown Chicago on the way to the Israeli Consulate. And

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<v Speaker 3>we showed up a few hours later for the for

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<v Speaker 3>the protest planned that evening. Like usual, we tried to

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<v Speaker 3>arrive early and there was a few kind of characters

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<v Speaker 3>bumping around the area that a lot of media was

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<v Speaker 3>just fascinated by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the start of it was there was the same

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<v Speaker 2>There was had been a Nazi lady out at the

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<v Speaker 2>protest the day before as well. She has like bright

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<v Speaker 2>purplish hair carried and on the first day, just a

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<v Speaker 2>cardboard sign covered in racial slurs, loved shouting the end word. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>she had a friend. They unveiled a sign. People confronted them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like it was like a white genocide, white

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<v Speaker 3>like white replacement, great replacement type sign with a URL

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<v Speaker 3>to a telegram channel.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, Yeah, you had a channel. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>she had a friend today.

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<v Speaker 4>Did someone else with her?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It was shocking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they usually have at least one, right, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>and and then uh, I mean kind of the at

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<v Speaker 2>one point, sort of while we were all waiting around,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was initially just a shitload of press, some

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<v Speaker 2>lookie loose from the local area, and a bunch.

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<v Speaker 4>Of cops, well, a bunch of private security, a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of private security, mostly for the media. There's a fun

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<v Speaker 2>game of spot the concealed handgun, because none of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are very good at concealing their fucking handguns. But

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, I'm standing and talking to another media

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<v Speaker 2>and I see this like massive circle of cameras fill

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<v Speaker 2>up around, and so I'm wondering, Okay, maybe something's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I get over there, and I didn't even think to

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<v Speaker 2>like stop myself from you know, using my outside voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I just shouted as soon as I got close, Oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the MyPillow guy. There's is the least news anything

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly be. But for some reason, there was like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like forty cameras. It's just like huddled around this

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<v Speaker 2>guy trying to get whatever picture or whatever, letting you talk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of protesters kept engaging him about Gaza, which

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think that there's anything to be gained

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<v Speaker 2>from engaging them pillow guy. With the exception of Garrison,

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<v Speaker 2>the way you chose to engage the MyPillow.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, I think there's really only one way to handle this,

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<v Speaker 3>and well there's maybe two ways. You can just completely

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<v Speaker 3>ignore him, which is probably probably probably the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Ask what I did, because.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's no reason to engage with this. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>reason to give him what he wants. The other option

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<v Speaker 3>is just to completely baffle him, just be really confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went up and I didn't even ask a question.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just said you said Mike first, which

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<v Speaker 3>I left so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want the listeners to know that after a

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen hour day yesterday, I get I get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel Garrison and Robert have had several drinks in

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison is like, did you see my video? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see my video? And what was that video?

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<v Speaker 4>We'll play the audio here. Mike skimbity Biden, skimmity.

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<v Speaker 3>Biden, skimmity Biden, gimty skimmity Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>So no, I was able to get Mike. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's how you guys talk now, it's around to say

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<v Speaker 3>s giveny by, because that's the only way to handle

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<v Speaker 3>these guys. It's just like just like just really you're

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<v Speaker 3>not even like annoying them, You're just kind of baffling.

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<v Speaker 4>Because all he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>Is attention to take his little piece and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>attract whatever media attention, and you just got to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fuck with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's kind of a good sign that he

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<v Speaker 2>did that, because this is not if you think about

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<v Speaker 2>where he was in like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, him

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<v Speaker 2>showing up alone, no visible security escort to just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stand around before a protest and bullshit, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a man whose life has fallen apart, like he

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Left, no everything he was saying I'm able to hear

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<v Speaker 3>him say at four am on Fox News. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that was pretty much the little pre show circus,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, people starting to trickle into the area slowly,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people in Kefia's you know, protesters, medics started

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<v Speaker 3>to slowly, slowly enter enter this little like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>block radius, and then very very suddenly, from like the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite side of where everyone else was stationed at, we

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<v Speaker 3>saw a group of maybe like fifty march in.

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<v Speaker 4>All at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this was kind of the start of the

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<v Speaker 3>main of the main protests.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say at that point there were maybe

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<v Speaker 2>fifty protesters scattered around within the clumps of media, most

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<v Speaker 2>of whom ran over and joined that group. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably around one hundred or so, maybe as many

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<v Speaker 2>as one hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>And it probably grew to about like two hundred over

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<v Speaker 3>the course of the next few hours, although they started

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of bleed numbers as well. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>I was taking notes on my little personal recorder during

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<v Speaker 3>this time, and we put together a little kind of

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<v Speaker 3>compilation to hear about what went down, and I'll probably

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<v Speaker 3>cut in with some extra narration to kind of fill

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<v Speaker 3>in the gaps, so to clarify the audio. You're about

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<v Speaker 3>to hear was recorded over the course of like two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half hours. We've cut this down for efficiency

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<v Speaker 3>and clarity. So some of the sections you're about to hear,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, may have happened a minute or two apart,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're just being mushed together to kind of help

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<v Speaker 3>the action move along a little bit faster, not including

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the sections of the protest where there's ten

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<v Speaker 3>minutes of nothing happening. Here's a first hand look at

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<v Speaker 3>what happened during the protest at the Israeli Consulate back

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<v Speaker 3>all right, it's just from the it's just past seven.

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<v Speaker 3>The behind enemy lines Israeli Consulate protest basically just started.

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<v Speaker 3>A whole bunch of people in some form of block

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<v Speaker 3>showed up in front of the building, started marching up

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<v Speaker 3>the street.

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<v Speaker 4>Very quickly. A three or four.

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<v Speaker 3>Or five layered line of Chicago PD came to block

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton Street, so the march could not advance there now

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<v Speaker 3>retreating back towards the building, and they might try to

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<v Speaker 3>march the other direction. I'm going to be on the

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<v Speaker 3>move here, trying to take notes as this progresses. A

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<v Speaker 3>central tower is kind of a tricky spot for this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of protest. Although it does house the Israeli Consulate.

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<v Speaker 3>From the outside, there's no obvious indicators that this building

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<v Speaker 3>is linked to the Israeli government, and it's about two

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<v Speaker 3>miles away from the DNC, so this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>very little impact on DNC attendees. All the way over

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<v Speaker 3>here in the West Loop area of Chicago. Chicago, ped

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<v Speaker 3>is set up across the other street as well, walking

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<v Speaker 3>both ways in essentially kettling this entire protest. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>loud speaker, people are talking in front of the building.

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<v Speaker 2>The purple haired.

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<v Speaker 3>Wig lady from before has moved her Nazi banner closer

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<v Speaker 3>to this core of protesters right in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>entrance of the building housing the Israeli Consulate. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the protesters just announced that they have a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of speakers that are going to talk in.

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<v Speaker 4>Front of the Israeli Constant building. As people are now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sandwiched in between two streets right in front of the entrance.

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<v Speaker 3>Speeches discussed the genocide in Gaza and the US arms

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<v Speaker 3>Deeels sending weapons and bombs to Israel as part of

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<v Speaker 3>continuing US imperialism. As the speech is carried on, more

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<v Speaker 3>and more police began to arrive. All right, it is

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<v Speaker 3>seven pm, About nine or so white vans just showed

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<v Speaker 3>up with tons of chicaga pad and ryagear, helmets, gas masks,

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<v Speaker 3>now thicker sleeves, not just the blue button ups that the.

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<v Speaker 4>Regular cops wear.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're gonna run into a line of police.

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<v Speaker 3>People have banners, bring the war home, shut down the

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<v Speaker 3>DNC for Gaza Palestine flags. As they are marching towards

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<v Speaker 3>a massive line of riot cops. There's too much media

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<v Speaker 3>in the way.

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<v Speaker 4>And a clash has started. Pushing up against lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Police pulling apart the signs and banners. Sounds familiar, I

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<v Speaker 3>bet to anyone who was at twenty twenty. The first

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<v Speaker 3>clash lasted about a minute, as protesters tried to march

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<v Speaker 3>forwards into the street and police pushed them back. I

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<v Speaker 3>was off to the side, but the sheer of mount

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<v Speaker 3>of cameras and media in the middle of this scuffle

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<v Speaker 3>prevented either side from gaining or losing much ground. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>there was kind of a little bit of a back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth. The protest line got pushed back slightly, but

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<v Speaker 3>still in the middle of Clinton Street. Protesters telling the

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<v Speaker 3>press to get out of the way as many press

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<v Speaker 3>are in between. As press moved slowly out of the way,

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<v Speaker 3>police were able to successfully push the protest.

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<v Speaker 4>Back Chicago pedis I mean redirecting some of their push

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<v Speaker 4>towards the south. Now looks like some of the protesters

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<v Speaker 4>are trying to move onto.

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<v Speaker 3>The sidewalk to get out of this massive, massive sandwich

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<v Speaker 3>of police, and there's maybe three or four cops trying

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<v Speaker 3>to prevent them from moving on the sidewalk. Here.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see if they get pasted.

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<v Speaker 3>Police have tacklics and people. Police are going in for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of arrests. It's very combative. Police with batons

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<v Speaker 3>out attacking people, hitt him on the ground, tackling them.

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<v Speaker 3>Police preventing all forward's movement on the sidewalk as well,

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<v Speaker 3>not just the street.

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<v Speaker 4>People are people are trying to get out and police are.

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<v Speaker 3>Police are really trying to trap them.

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<v Speaker 4>Police are squashing. We can't we can't move dude, we

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<v Speaker 4>can't move back.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't, we can't move back.

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<v Speaker 4>Police are telling people to move back into nothing. They

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<v Speaker 4>have us trapped by this building.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually, police realize that they cannot push all fifty people

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<v Speaker 3>into a flat wall and eased off, directing people back

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<v Speaker 3>in front of the consulate. Police is pushing us into

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<v Speaker 3>a very tiny corner. A small line of police is

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<v Speaker 3>separating two crowds, mostly on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, they're pushing us back towards the building.

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<v Speaker 3>Action now paused for a few minutes as both sides

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<v Speaker 3>figured out their next move. Protesters chanted for the release

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<v Speaker 3>of detained comrades.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the crowd is trying to regroup as police

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<v Speaker 3>continue to push people off.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the sidewalk and back into the street.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the crowd has kind of been split now

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<v Speaker 3>into four sections, police keeping them separate, not letting them reconvene.

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<v Speaker 3>The section from the building, there's a section on the corner,

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<v Speaker 3>the section behind the police line, and there's a section

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<v Speaker 3>close to where people tried to march that it has

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<v Speaker 3>now been cut off from the rest of the crowd,

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<v Speaker 3>So we have these kind of four groups. A smaller

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<v Speaker 3>group is reforming in the street in front of the building.

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<v Speaker 3>This is kind of the section that got trapped by

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<v Speaker 3>the building as the rest of the march tried to

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<v Speaker 3>move forward, and some of the people from the side

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<v Speaker 3>have linked up with them as well, but still mostly

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<v Speaker 3>kind of four sections separated up by police. People channing

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<v Speaker 3>to get back in the street. We have little squads

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<v Speaker 3>or AG's linking up with their mates again, linking arms,

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<v Speaker 3>holding hands, kind of regrouping.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, Chicago p D is kind of doing the same.

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<v Speaker 3>They're reforming their line, going back more into the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the street. If they did get any detainments or arrests,

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<v Speaker 3>probably sorting those out right now as they decide what

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<v Speaker 3>to do next. During this loll period, I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to hear a decent amount of police comms chatter coming

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<v Speaker 3>from their walkie talkies as the police decided on.

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<v Speaker 4>Their next move.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I just heard on police comms that they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be asking for media to leave. Interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they are calling for transport vands. So if they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start doing arrests, they might try to get media to

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<v Speaker 3>leave first then really move in. It sounds like to

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<v Speaker 3>me on the comms they're calling out specific people to

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<v Speaker 3>do targeted arrests. On the comms, they're calling out specific outfits,

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<v Speaker 3>specific what people are wearing, what people are holding, to

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<v Speaker 3>move in and do targeted arrests on the crowd. Some

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<v Speaker 3>of the descriptions are very general like black hoodie, red hat,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. I really did not want to

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<v Speaker 3>get a face full of mace, So as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>I saw police carrying mace cans, I perhaps a bit

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<v Speaker 3>prematurely decided to don my full face gas mask, which

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<v Speaker 3>I then took off like ten minutes later as it

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<v Speaker 3>became clear that we weren't in immediate danger of amazing, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm gonna see Barack Obama today. There's

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<v Speaker 3>been enough of a cause that the anticipation keep from growing.

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<v Speaker 3>Does everyone knows what's about to happen. We're just waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for it to happen, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>The fast time protesters that in front of the building

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<v Speaker 4>are not moving towards the Israeli.

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<v Speaker 3>Counter protesters on the other side. As things started to

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<v Speaker 3>heap back up, some folks in the crowd opted to

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<v Speaker 3>exit the area via a small EVAC route on the

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<v Speaker 3>northwest corner of the street. Considering the talk of targeted

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<v Speaker 3>arrests on the police scanner, police may have been eyeing

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<v Speaker 3>up certain people in the crowd who then got the

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<v Speaker 3>hint about what's about to go down next.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that doesn't block just bounced?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I think they could spot that they were

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<v Speaker 3>about to get targeted for arrests. Be guys, they were

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<v Speaker 3>being followed up by some of some of the sergeants

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<v Speaker 3>because I honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't name any law breaking other than quote unquote shoving.

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<v Speaker 5>With the path.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, but I mean, you know they can get you

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<v Speaker 4>on some The.

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<v Speaker 3>Protest did not stay still for too long, and a

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<v Speaker 3>little less than hour since the last big confrontation, the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd once again attempted to march. All right, it is

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<v Speaker 3>nearly eight twenty. The crowd that remained in front of

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<v Speaker 3>these early consolt building is now moving up again towards

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton Street to re engage the confrontation that happened nearly

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<v Speaker 3>an hour ago. Look, there's less cameras in between the

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<v Speaker 3>two factions, but not no cameras. The crowd of protesters

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<v Speaker 3>is still approaching, and they're turning.

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<v Speaker 4>They're turning. They turned down Clinton Street.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the movement they tried to make before, but

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<v Speaker 3>police prevented them from doing so. And now they're so

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<v Speaker 3>far able to exit. The section of the protest that

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<v Speaker 3>was still facing down the riot line split up into

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<v Speaker 3>two smaller groups and then made this same movement down

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<v Speaker 3>the sidewalk away from the police. The people that were

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<v Speaker 3>traveling down the sidewalk and Clinton have now reformed on

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<v Speaker 3>Moreau Street and they are now marching. The police are

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<v Speaker 3>now caught behind the protesters in the march, but sure

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<v Speaker 3>enough police quickly arrive to contain the mobile protest. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>bike cops have beat most of the crowd to the intersection,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're still slowly arriving. The intersection up here is

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<v Speaker 3>a T shape, so only two directions to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Please are going to try to get them to take

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<v Speaker 4>a right. It looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, all right, more please catch it up. I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>You can hear bike cops coming in from both sides. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is quite the pickle. Unfortunately, because of the T

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<v Speaker 3>shape of this intersection, this is now a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a tighter pinch. They can still get out via

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<v Speaker 3>one path on the side of but they might prefer

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<v Speaker 3>a confrontation with some of these police.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>The march paused at this T shaped intersection for a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes as they decided their next move. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd is standing in front of this very thin

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<v Speaker 3>lineup bike cops. The police not not very thick because

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<v Speaker 3>they had to move kind of impromptu to adjust to

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<v Speaker 3>the movements of the crowd. Small groups of the protests

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<v Speaker 3>keep peeling off. They're slowly bleeding numbers, people chanting let

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<v Speaker 3>us through as the police yelled to move back. Police

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<v Speaker 3>have the remaining crowd in a pretty tight squeeze the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Smaller groups keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Peeling off, but now the remaining march is moving forward

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<v Speaker 3>as the bike cops slowly back up. Looks like most

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<v Speaker 3>of the crowd has been moving onto the sidewalk to

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<v Speaker 3>move down the street.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't really have many more move to make.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just a saturation of police in this area that

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<v Speaker 3>the cops can adapt to any movement this shrinking crowd makes.

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<v Speaker 4>Police are piling into the sidewalk. Police are making arrests.

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<v Speaker 3>Police are doing targeted arrests. They're grabbing people on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 3>Farm numbers of arrests are being made. There's at least

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<v Speaker 3>at least five from where I'm standing. Police ordering media

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<v Speaker 3>out of the way. The protesters are now moving back

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<v Speaker 3>on the sidewalk, backtracking.

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<v Speaker 4>Away from the police.

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<v Speaker 3>The remaining crowd attempted to move away from the police

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<v Speaker 3>who were making arrests on the sidewalk, but the only

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<v Speaker 3>way left to move was back where they just came from.

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<v Speaker 4>People are linking up with their AG's.

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<v Speaker 3>Arm in arm, trying to move through this very, very

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<v Speaker 3>tricky environment.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now. There's so everywhere we go, I see.

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<v Speaker 3>A new battalion of cops. People really just have nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>to go. There's just police everywhere. We're just at this

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<v Speaker 3>point moving in circles, but not like the regular march circles,

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<v Speaker 3>just on the sidewalk, going back and forth, backtracking, looping around.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to find somewhere just to get out of

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<v Speaker 4>this area.

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly out of options on where to go, the protest

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<v Speaker 3>entered a small patio terrace on the corner of the street.

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<v Speaker 3>Protesters are now getting into the terrace of this building

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<v Speaker 3>at five point twenty five West Monroe. That's probably not

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<v Speaker 3>going to end great at this point. Police have the

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<v Speaker 3>remaining much smaller crowd maybe fifty, squeezed in in this

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<v Speaker 3>little building terrace corner. They are not letting any protesters leave.

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<v Speaker 3>A shoving match just started. Police are moving in and

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<v Speaker 3>they're tackling, pushing people on the ground. It's almost nine pm.

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<v Speaker 3>Police have one arrest now They just drag someone out

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<v Speaker 3>by their hair from the crowd that is currently just

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<v Speaker 3>completely kettled. For the first time tonight, they're providing no

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<v Speaker 3>evacuation ruts for protesters. They are trapped on this street corner,

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<v Speaker 3>completely surrounded, not letting anyone leave. Eventually, a small hole

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<v Speaker 3>opened up, letting a few protesters leave this kettled patio.

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<v Speaker 3>Robert was able to exit with this group, but many

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<v Speaker 3>people were not able to make it through, and this

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<v Speaker 3>little patio was where a number of arrests were able

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<v Speaker 3>to take place as others slowly dispersed throughout the West

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<v Speaker 3>Loop neighborhood of Chicago. According to NBC, the police superintendent

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<v Speaker 3>Larry Sneeling, which is kind of a great name for

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<v Speaker 3>a cop, praised his officers for quote unquote showing restraint

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<v Speaker 3>when no one else did, saying that they quote did

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<v Speaker 3>an excellent job responding to violence and vandalism. He made

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<v Speaker 3>a similar comment on Wednesday, saying that the protest quote

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<v Speaker 3>showed up with the intention of committing acts of violence

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<v Speaker 3>and vandalism unquote. Now, there was no vandalism that was

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<v Speaker 3>actually committed during this protest. That did not happen. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure how the superintendent was able to infer the

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<v Speaker 3>intention of this protest exactly as no vandalism took place

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<v Speaker 3>and the only violence that happened was when police started

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<v Speaker 3>pushing people who were trying to march forwards in the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Garrison, that was a gripping story that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>After these services, services, products, okay, products and services.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well maybe we can't know. It's impossible to say

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<v Speaker 2>we're back, so I don't know. I guess we should

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<v Speaker 2>probably just kind of give some final thoughts on how

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<v Speaker 2>we felt about this protest. My overwhelming impression, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really am not saying this to try to be mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the crowd came with a lot of rhetoric

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<v Speaker 2>about this is the protest that matters, We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to shut down the DNC, we are going to throw

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<v Speaker 2>our bodies upon the machinery of empire. And then after

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of hand to hand clashes with the police,

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<v Speaker 2>which were mostly just kind of shoving, people just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get home, they wanted to leave, and most of

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<v Speaker 2>the night was us following people attempting to get home

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<v Speaker 2>and disperse and not being allowed to buy the police

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<v Speaker 2>every time they would like do a big push in

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>where they're all shouting move in unison. They're telling you

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>to go back, They're telling you to do this or

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 2>you'll get arrested. And there's always you're always surrounded on

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>every side by cops and you know, sometimes by gaggles

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<v Speaker 2>of media. But like it was impossible to comply. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say that I saw any law breaking really, aside

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 2>from assuming the cops called an unlawful assembly, which I

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 2>did not hear. I don't know how you would have

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 2>heard in most of the product protests, but assuming they did,

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<v Speaker 2>as that's the law breaker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was no like property damage, there was no

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 3>there was no no real light activity. Yeah, you know,

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 3>people people tried to march and police prevented them with

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 3>their bodies. Yep, and you know there's a confrontation that ensues,

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like at that point where where the two groups meet.

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 3>But besides that, it was it was it was people

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 3>trying to march and the cops that prevented them from

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 3>doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a lot. I got stuck at one

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>point with a group of twenty or so people, a

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 2>handful of protesters, couple of media, and then maybe a

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 2>dozen or more like I think they were locals. I

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 2>guess it's possible they were tourists, but people who had

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 2>just seen the march going down the street and thought

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>that they might follow along and watch for a little

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>And then the cops moved in so fast. We all

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>got walled off in the courtyard of a hotel that

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't actually have street access, but it wasn't clear that

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>it didn't, and the police repeated said they were going

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>to arrest all of us. I had like a discussion

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>with one about my credentials because he was like, those

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 2>are press credential. Eventually they got a cop who could read,

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>but another journalists got arrested. I think there were at

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>least four arrested.

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 4>E mean, at least four journalists were arrest at least.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Four journalists were arrested. Yeah, because after I got out,

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they let most of the people in our kettle out,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>but they pulled one guy with a helmet that said

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>press on it out of the kettle. I think his

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>name was Josh Pacheco. I believe it was Josh that

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I was filming. Josh was definitely arrested, and he is

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be raising money because his camera was broken.

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>They tossed his linen like cameras lens first onto the ground.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 2>It did significant damage. If you want to find Josh's

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:48.360
<v Speaker 2>info online at jp Underscore OTG you can find his information.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he'll be doing a fundraiser at some point.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 3>And obviously there were many more protesters arrested. The actual

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>final number is kind of up in the air. Police

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>that are saying that twenty two people at least were

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 3>arrested and is saying it's closer to admit.

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<v Speaker 2>Being the National Lawyer's Guild, they show up at protests

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>to protect people's rights, primarily in the event of arrest.

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's kind of some confusion here on how

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 3>many people were actually arrested. I'll try to get confirmations

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 3>and i'll add that in later tonight. I'll also look

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 3>for a bail fund, yeah, to donate as well, because

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 3>it is always unfortunate when journalists are arrested, but yeah,

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 3>it's equally as unfortunate when people who are protesting, especially

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>for a cause like this, get arrested as well. Like

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 3>this is I think something that it's worth stating.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially since again I can't say anything anyone did to

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.479
<v Speaker 2>precipitate arrest. It's not even like they were closing down streets,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>because the police had closed down every street they were

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>on before they showed up. I think the police very

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>clearly were under orders to keep things peaceful as long

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>as possible, largely because they didn't want the DNC and

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the city government didn't want the embarrassment of anything really ugly.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>So there were no weapons used. There's no mace used.

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even really see the sticks used much.

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 4>They were mostly used like push.

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 3>There was very little in terms of like like like

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>overhand hitting.

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't need any of that stuff because there

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 2>was no point at which they had less than a

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>two to one numerical advantage, usually more like three or four.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 3>And the people that were organizing this protest in the

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>in the days prior were like announcing part of their

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 3>intention was to specifically get beat up by police and

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>like beat up badly and have this like generate news coverage,

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>have this you know, this slight Stare organization as well, Yeah,

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 3>invoking Chicago nineteen sixty eight, and police largely like denied

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>them that option. And you know, many of the participants

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 3>also opteds to to not continue, you know, in an

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 3>hour's long physical confrontation with police and instead opted to

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>try to move around them, try to evade them, instead

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>of trying to you know, push through police lines. You know,

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 3>there was a few points where the police lines that

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 3>were blocking the street was very sin after people started

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 3>to move move around the this kind of area, around

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 3>around the consulate building, and then you know, other times

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the police lines were very thick, but consistently people opted

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 3>to not continue a long physical engagement with police.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a discretion is the better part of

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>valor kind of night, and I think that's the point

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>at which the police decided we are going to arrest people.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>There was a degree to which it felt like they

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>were just kind of like trying out tactics. A lot

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>of what they were doing was splitting up the crowd

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>then doing targeted arrests and kind of separating, calving off

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>chunks of it. I don't know. The whole thing I

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of couldn't stop myself from being drawn back to

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the whole time is like, what is the actual utility

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>of this really? Because it didn't get attention, not much.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's some news coverage and stuff, but it's

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 2>not a Chicago sixty eight moment. I don't think this

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>is going to move any needle for anybody, and obviously

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>that's the goal, right, is to have some kind of

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>an impact. I mean everyone was saying, like the stated

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>goal at all of these protests shut down the DNC,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and the only time that kind of happened was at

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the less radical protest police protests yesterday, right, and largely

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of by accident. I don't know like that. I'm

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>not trying to be like down on anyone. It just

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>is one of those what when you're seeing the sheer

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>weight of police and the numbers of protesters being generated

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>is one hundred or two hundred, it just feels like

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you're asking people to get fucked up and damage their

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>lives in a situation in which that's unlikely to actually

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>lead to any of the things they want to see.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Hey, this is gare cutting in again.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>The exact number of arrests is still a little bit unclear,

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 3>but we have a clearer idea than what we did

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 3>a few hours ago. The official number as of Wednesday

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.239
<v Speaker 3>evening is that fifty six people were arrested. I'm going

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>to quote from the AP quote thirty of the people

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>detained by police were issued citations for disorderly conduct. According

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>to Chicago Police, one person was arrested on a felony

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>charge of resisting police, while nine were charged with misdemeanors

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 3>including disorderly conduct, resisting officers, battery, assault, and criminal damage

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 3>to property. Police said, unquote for the record, neither myself

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>nor Robert witnessed any criminal damage to property.

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess to kind of conclude a protest that's going

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>to actually like move the Needler change. Anything has to

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>overwhelm like the capacity of the state system to deal

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>with it. It has to be something that the state

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>is not. We saw this in twenty twenty right like

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>just over I'm just talking about Portland, just like overall,

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>the George Floyd up rising was beyond what the state

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>was prepared to handle for at least a sizeable chunk,

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>especially of the early days. It like overwhelmed the capacity

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of the resources the state had to respond adequately. The state,

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>at least everything I've seen so far at the DNC

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>has been perfectly prepared for everything that people brought to bear.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's really the summary I've gotten.

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 3>We're going to go on a quick break and then

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 3>be back to hear from Sovie about the Obama festival

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 3>inside the Democratic National Convention. All right, we are back

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 3>and as as this protest was happening in this area

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>around like I think it's called the West Loop, Sophie

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 3>was inside the d n C and there was also

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 3>people similar to the first day of the DNC who

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 3>who snuck in like banners into the DNC and unfurled

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>them like pro Palestine disarming as royal banners. I believe

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 3>the banner from last night just read free Palestine and Sophie.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 3>What was it like in there exactly? Was it easier

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 3>to get into than the than the day previous.

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was more, it was it was it was

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>is what I'll say. It wasn't as organized as the

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>R and C, but it was. It was better than

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the day prior. That's a win is a win at

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>this point. But yeah, the energy was electric, as once

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I heard multiple people say throughout the night in the

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>unass press area that I was in.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 3>It felt like, at least from watching online afterwards, it

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 3>gave really big, like two thousand and eight energy.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And obviously you know, Michelle Obama Barack Obama are

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 3>both speaking, so that that kind of carries with it

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, but even just like the general vibe

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 3>just felt it felt very two thousand and eight, like

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 3>that style of like two thousand and eight optimism.

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I've been asked

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot like what the energy is compared to the

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>rn C, and like the RNC was more like a

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>WWE event and this was more like a you know,

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>B level pop star concert, sure where everyone was very

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>excited to be there, where I only knew a couple

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of the songs.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 4>Sure was.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>That was the general vibe. But the main speed section

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>of the event started off with Center Majority leader Chuck Schumer.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 4>And I watched his speech. It was not very good.

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>He came out and and was what some would describe

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>as dancing on stage.

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 4>He was quesetable. His speech was very like robotic. Yeah

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 4>it was. He was not good.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's the head of the dim Crypto Caucus, so

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>like he's part robot.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>But it was like people were not super into him.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>He was whatever. But then Bertie Sanders came up and

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I was actually surprised at the crowd was as into

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:21.479
<v Speaker 1>him as they.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Were, but not super into No, no, no, oh.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong with nothing like nothing like the

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Obama's later and then.

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Nothing even like AOC. It seems no, they.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Definitely loved AOC a lot more than Bernie. I enjoyed

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>his speech.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he gave like one of the more like economically

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 3>sound speeches talking about actual issues facing working people.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Correct. I would say, you know, a lot of the

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>other journalists around me were talking during that time. They

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>were not thoroughly paying attention to him, which was interesting

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to know.

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 3>It was the same speech that he's been giving since

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen. Essentially, I feel like, fortunately, the economic situation

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 3>in the States has not changed all that much.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Bertie Sands has been giving the stay

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of speech his entire career.

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Sure, Yeah, and like the same stuff he was calling

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 3>for back then, with the with the one percent and

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the billionaire class and healthcare and all these things that

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 3>are still real issues, and in some ways I feel

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 3>like they were more talked about back in like, you know,

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, and the fact that they aren't just talked

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 3>about now is maybe, you know, to some degree, like

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 3>a failing. But no, he gave the speech that he

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 3>was expected to make, and yeah.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>He called for an end to his words horrific war

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>in Gaza and called for a ceasefire. One of the

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>few this entire week that we've heard actually say that.

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>AFC said it yesterday.

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, and an AOC's specific line was crediting Harris for

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>working around the clock to make a ceasfire deal was

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 3>specifically like the phrasing that AOC used.

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't buy that, super well.

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 4>No, well, I'm not afraid to admit is that.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Because I was at the protest, I had the intention

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 3>of just watching all the speeches in my hotel afterwards,

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 3>and I got up to my room, I turned on CNN.

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 3>They were replaying the whole night, and after Bernie's speech,

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I completely fell asleep. And then and then I woke

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 3>up at eight am. CN was still on my television.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 4>That is so cursed. I turned it off and I

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 4>went back to Staarson.

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You had some nightmares on spooling.

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what was being subjected to my sleeping body.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 2>You're never recovering from this.

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 1>After Bertie, you know, i'd say, the only other person

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>until we get to the second gentleman, Doug m Hoff

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and then the Obama's later that I was, you know,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the governor of Illinois, Pritzker.

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Pritzker.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>He he just was very very well received, obviously by

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>by the crowd, as we are.

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 4>One of the democrats favorite and one of their favorite boys.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Early on, a favorite for the VP slot. Yeah, he's very.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Good at attacking Trump and his speeches. He said Trump

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>is only rich in one thing, stupidity, and the crowd

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>went fair.

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was definitely the most like a mean out

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 3>of many of the speech gis.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I would say though, like last night was the roasting nights.

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Last night was the roasting Okay, for sure they did.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:56.879
<v Speaker 2>Bamba made a dick joke.

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Obama made a dick John. We'll get to We'll get

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to that. But yeah, so just like visually, they have

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like those light up things that you have at concerts.

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know I do.

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Before I get into taking this back into time to

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, talk a little bit about the

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>role call sure.

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Sure, And this is where they formerly like ceremonially nominate

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Harris and Walls to be the president and vice presidential nominees.

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Correct, And let's just say it was a little bit

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>different than the RNC. At the RNC, you have speaker

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Johnson just telling the delegates that we need to keep

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>order and there's a proper way to do things. And

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>then you had people from each state come up and

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>make speeches like this.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 5>Fighting for liberty since sixteen seventy where the revolutionary and

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 5>all was one. We're in twenty sixteen. Donald Trump won

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 5>his first primary victory ever. Let's ring in the Trump

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 5>Carol of American histories, the great State of South Carolina,

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 5>Crown cares all fifty of its fops.

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, come on.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And on the flip side at the DNC, and I

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>had several friends that were watching on TV say it

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>was translating very well on TV.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 4>It was.

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>It was a little bit more chaotic in person, and

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>certain states didn't match the same energy. But each state

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>had had a song. There was a whole playlist thing

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and that is now going around and the energy was

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of a I would say Teen Choice Awards is brand.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>It was a Teen Choice Awards vibe with Garrison. The

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>state of Georgia doing this.

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Wow, So that's very cool, Sophie.

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I will say the state of Oregon did not.

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, No, that's because organ is allergic to fun.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Oregan in Wisconsin. Boy, howdy, did they not bring the

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>good vibes.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's because all you can do in Wisconsin is drink,

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and all in organ you can do is smoke weed.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 4>So there you go.

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>After the roll call, they cut to VP Harris and

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Governor Tim Walls streaming live from Milwaukee.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 3>The Pfizer Forum, where we all suffered through last month.

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was where the RNC was held last month,

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to be like, look at us, Donald.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 4>We're able to fill both venues at the same time.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>We are so hip and cool and of course the

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>crowd lost their minds.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Ate it up.

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>They love they love so.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Pretty good. Burn it's it's.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>It's not a bad is this was You're getting kind

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 3>of a glimpse. Ever since, like the Republicans are weird stuff,

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 3>they've been realizing that it's actually really useful to be

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of mean in politics. Yeah, for so long this

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 3>party has been like linked to when they go low,

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 3>we go high. You know, we're gonna we're gonna make

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 3>a compromise, We're gonna gona We're going to reach across

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>the aisle.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean last night it was not they go low,

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>we go high. It was definitely they go low, we

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>also go low, and you know that was interesting to

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>observe because the crowd loved it.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 4>It plays very well.

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>It plays very well. Before the Obamas, we got a

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>speech from the second Gentleman, which is very fun to say,

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Kabla Harris's husband, Doug. Doug, I like that.

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's keep trying that again.

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>You can't.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 1>But they introed him with a video from his son

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was very TV movie of the Week, heartwarming.

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>And then he came out on stage and introduced his

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>dad and there was hugging La La Lah and the

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>crowd was allowed, as it did Ben that night, and

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, I love families, but I was like, wow,

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the crowd is so loud. And then like ten minutes later,

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Michelle Obama came out and I was like, the crowd

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>was very quiet for Doug and Poff. In comparison, she

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>is by far the most popular Democrat in the world.

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 2>There is an Obama derangement syndrome. It ignites something in

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 2>millennials and.

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Makes them really love the Obama.

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>They really love their mamas, lose their minds.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Doug's speech primarily focused on painting a picture of his

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>wife as a family, family woman, and talking about how

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.399
<v Speaker 1>great she is with their with their kids. He has

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>two kids from his first marriage and they call her

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Mama La.

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>But she's not a real mom, you know, Robert Roberts. Look,

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I've been listening to a lot of Matt. This is

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a real scandal. They're not her born children. You know,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>you can't adopt kids.

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 3>You gotta stop listening to Matt Walsh podcasts when you're

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:03.800
<v Speaker 3>doing your workout.

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I do love that the right has entirely chosen the

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>line of attack on Kamala to be that like.

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 4>She's a fake mom.

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 2>She's a fake mom. She raised Pamala.

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 4>No, because we're quoting Matt Wall.

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that's how he says.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely by the way, Matt Walsh was like in

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a disguise.

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Also, they're all in disguise walking around the.

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>DNC doing something that doesn't matter.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 3>See that Matt Wall showed up in his like what

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 3>is a woman liberal disguise with the with the little

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 3>pony tails, Dude, Harry, I showed up.

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 4>I showed up kind of it.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, my disguise just being a regular black suit, which

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I also wear regularly all the time. I'm pretty sure

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 3>whals she was trying to get some extra clips for

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.479
<v Speaker 3>his new like how racism Isn't real documentary that they're

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 3>playing ads for in theaters in front of like queer

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 3>and trans movies, like specifically to like fuck with people.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 3>So I'm pretty sure they're they're here collecting some kind

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 3>of some kind of some kind of foot for that

0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 3>because he had a little love mic attached to his

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 3>attached to his lapel, so he's doing some kind of hijinks.

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>But Yeah, it's interesting to me how much of the

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>attacks on Kamala right now are focused on her family

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>not being a real family. It strikes me as kind

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 2>of a sign of desperation because I'm not saying it

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 2>get any traction. It's the same as like the tim

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Wall stuff, where it's like nothing sticking that they're trying

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>right now, And I think they've just gotten so far

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 2>into their own fever swamps that they have completely forgotten

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 2>how to connect with a hit, which is an interesting

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 2>place for the Republicans to be because that's all they have.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Duck, read the teleprompter. It's fun being able to

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>see the teleprompter because you can see where they have

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>bolded words or underlied words or capitalized words, and any

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>bold or capitalized word. He really went for it, and

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I personally thought that was funny to observe. But the

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>crab liked him, and I was like, wow, they really

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like Doug m Hoff. Wow. And then I was like, no,

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that's not who they actually like, because then Michelle Obama

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:09.959
<v Speaker 1>came out and the crowd standing ovations. I can't even

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you it was louder than like I've seen Beyonce concert,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>same exact amount of loudness, but yeah, it was just

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>very two thousand and eight, very twenty twelve. Her speech

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>was incredible.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 4>What did she actually talk about?

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Nothing, but it was incredible, is what I'm saying. She

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 1>just basically talked about how important it is to do

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>things without saying anything. She was able to resonate with

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>every single person in the crowd. Every single person in

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the crowd was just enamored.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>What it's been so many bad months in a row

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 2>of news and just getting constantly beat down in every

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 2>news cycle and war and genocide overseas, and a lot

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of people. As soon as Biden stepped down, it was

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>like a rubber band breaking and everyone just went from

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>what this was host did not happen as a convention.

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>They were serious efforts by the DNC when Biden was

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>still a candidate to like, we don't even need to

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>do a real convention because like, what is the benefit

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 2>of sticking him in front of people for longer? And

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they broke a pinata full of party energy and that's

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what this has all been inside and honestly not

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of energy outside in the streets, you know,

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 2>energy from the people who were there. But like, I

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 2>think there would have been much larger crowds if Biden

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 2>had stayed.

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I one hundred percent agree with you. You know, Michelle

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Obama brought back, you know, one of the key things

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and eight, Hope. She said, Hope is

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>making it come back, and the crowd lost it.

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really part of what made last night

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 3>have so much of that two thousand and eight energy

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 3>beyond you know, like all of like all of like

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 3>the pop songs beyond like the Obamas. It's like this

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 3>this messaging of like there's actually there's actually like a

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 3>good future to look towards, like hope, you know, that's.

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>As long as we defeat Donald Trump. Sure, Hope is

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>available was the mean theme of the night, and then

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>she introduced President Obama. He came out, hammed it up,

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>told his little jokes. He was so excited. You could

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>tell he was like so excited to be able to

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 1>tell his material to that larger crowd. He was like

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>very excited to be up there. We got yes we

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 1>can chance, then later yes she can chance. At one

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 1>point the crowd started chanting thank you Joe, as they

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.720
<v Speaker 1>do when Joe Biden was referenced, and he directly said

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that the torch has been passed. There we go, and

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that is generally the summary of the night. Lib Topia,

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>as I'm calling the DNC was very excited.

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that sounds thrilling. It's really making me optimistic about

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 3>the future.

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I am more optimistic of the future

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 2>than I was. But also what I do foresee from

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 2>this is that we are heading into a future assuming

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the dims win, especially if they win by a sizable margin,

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 2>where they get meaner to everyone. The thing they learned

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>from Trump is you should call people names and be shit.

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 2>And you know that'll get turned on the left because

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 2>the left it already has, Yeah, as it already has.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>But also the left is going to continue not having

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.720
<v Speaker 2>much of an impact on the broader situation until people

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>have any sort of ability to actually get folks out

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 2>and have a clear understand like a clear plan for

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>something to do that the system cannot easily easily contain

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and withstand right like little marches and demonstrations. Not only

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 2>is the police prepared for them, but the Democratic Party,

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I think is increasingly prepared for how you isolate and

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of deflect attention from that sort of thing, like

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of what we've seen on the floor at

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 2>the DNC with the Yeah, we'll have Bernie come up

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and he'll talk about a ceasefire. We'll have AOC have

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 2>or ceasefire like Joe, we'll say that the protesters have

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a point. You should listen to them now, not going

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<v Speaker 2>to He's not going to draw any other attention if

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 2>you were to like come down an attack or you know,

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the protesters for you know, whatever bad piece of messaging

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 2>or something happened outside that actually does draw some attention,

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:14.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like the DIMS have not just been smart

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<v Speaker 2>in what they've signaled, but in how they've made sure

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that that really hasn't become part of the story of

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the DNC and heading into this that was a huge

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 2>fear a lot of people had, and a huge expectation

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people had. It was part of the

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 2>planning that a lot of the protests that came in

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 2>with that we are going to disrupt and damage this

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of coronation process in order to make it very

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.280
<v Speaker 2>clear that the Democratic Party has not made any meaningful

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 2>movement on Gaza. And I think what we've seen here

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 2>is the start of a replicable strategy that, unless there's

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>an alteration in how people are organizing, is going to

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>allow the DIMS to continue to sideline radical voices pushing

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<v Speaker 2>for things that matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think one trend that we're going to

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 3>see continuing, especially if someone like Kamala wins, I'm starting

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 3>to see a growing kind of reclamation of liberal patriotism.

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there were USA signs last.

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<v Speaker 3>Night and USA chance and I think this will be

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 3>something I'll proably talk a little bit more tomorrow or

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 3>the next day after, like Kamala's like big speech, and if.

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 4>They do win, I think this.

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 3>I think there actually is a decent bit of like

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight energy and like, yes, people are excited.

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 3>There's the quote unquote vibe shift. But things didn't go

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.879
<v Speaker 3>great after Obama was elected. Famously, like everything just kind

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 3>of yeah, like the hope was mostly unfounded, like a.

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Lot of war crimes.

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of war crimes and just not that

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:42.240
<v Speaker 4>much good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, the the ACA mattered. There are some

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 2>things that got better after it, but the whole fight

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>to get there was so dispiriting, and I think that

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 2>that kind of broke Obama the actual like interested in

0:50:56.120 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>pushing radical change, and then the Republicans absolute lutely swept

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>midterms to such a catastrophic extent, and I foresee Kamala

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 2>getting stuck in the same thing that Obama did in

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.839
<v Speaker 2>terms of like it is actually very hard to make

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 2>any substantive progress that helps people. I don't know that

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 2>she's going to have to deal with a Republican party

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 2>that is capable of doing what the Republicans did during

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 2>like the Tea Party mini terms.

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 3>That's just that's a very different Republican party. And then

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 3>the one that exists now.

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.720
<v Speaker 2>The one that exists now has been lobotomized by Trump,

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and well, he's going if he's alive, he's going to

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 2>run in twenty twenty eight. Yeah.

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 3>But this, this kind of this growing reclamation of like patriotism.

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 3>We've already seen it with how like you know, the

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 3>NFL is gone woke. All these things that have kind

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 3>of been more affiliated with like you know, conservatism or

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 3>like you know, like traditional Americana is slowly getting swept

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.719
<v Speaker 3>up more with like the liberal majority, and you know,

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 3>those types of things that have kind of been gate

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 3>kept from liberals for a while, especially especially that kind

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:57.280
<v Speaker 3>of style of patriotism. And this isn't this isn't necessarily

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 3>a good thing. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 3>saying that this is gonna be a trend that I

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 3>think is going to be increasing, and it will also

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 3>lead to, I think a bit more open hostility from

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 3>liberals towards people that are more progressive, towards people more

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 3>on the left, especially protesters, especially protesters who are not

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 3>just doing protests that are big parades and marches. And

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 3>we've already seen that here with a decent bit of

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 3>conflict between you know, more radical attendees and the big

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 3>coalitions with their safety teams. We were seeing a lot

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 3>of fighting over you know, who is more justified, what's

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>more valid what should you be allowed to do at

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 3>a protest like this? And those debates are going to continue.

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 3>I think we'll seeing more pressure on that front, even

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 3>from liberals as well. And that's kind of the big

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.479
<v Speaker 3>the big trends that I'm seeing right now as we're

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 3>about like halfway through the DNC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I'm going to finally go to the DNC tonight,

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 2>so that'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll show you around.

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can show me around.

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna meet Daddy Walls.

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll take my my anti PTSD meds, all overdose on

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 2>those meds. You can take me to the hospital. Gonna

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 2>be a nice night, Sophe.

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>The good news is there's two more days of this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, as news i've heard in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm turning off this record.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go leap out of the window.

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah all right, bye, bye bye.

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