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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media, Kamala Harris and Tim Walls. Little John

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Speaker 1: didn't mention anything about sweat dripping off his balls.

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Speaker 2: He sure did not, And that's the greatest act of

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Speaker 2: you know, amongst all of the genocide denial, it takes

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Speaker 2: a lot of cowardice to really stand up in this crowd.

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Speaker 2: But Little John refusing to talk about sweat dripping down

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Speaker 2: his balls in the middle of the DNC was a

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Speaker 2: horrible mistake here.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't know he was going to start

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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 2: I knew I was going to start that way. I

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Speaker 2: think it was in pain. Garrison, do you know the

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Speaker 2: song we're talking about? What Welcome to What happened here?

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Speaker 3: I'm Garrison Davis, annoyed with my bosses, Sophie Lichtman and

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Speaker 3: Robert Evans.

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Speaker 2: Very old, very old. Remember when Lil John was slightly

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Speaker 2: not He was never really that transgressive. Little John's always

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Speaker 2: been pretty family friendly. I guess.

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Speaker 1: Somebody replied to the video I post of Little John

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Speaker 1: saying maybe the best lil and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, ah, there's I had a soft spot in my

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Speaker 2: heart for Lil Wayne, not that he was good, but

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Speaker 2: because he's really funny, Like missus officer. That's that's a

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Speaker 2: fun song. That's a fun story about pretending he had

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Speaker 2: sex with a police officer.

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Speaker 3: The Democratic National Convention continues inside Chicago, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Lil Wayne not yet present, but maybe night. People say

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Speaker 2: Swift might show up soon.

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Speaker 1: She well, she she had a couple shows and she

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Speaker 1: could potentially get here by tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's great, that's great. I was actually about Jonathan Swift.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, author of a modest proposal.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but in my heart, I really don't think

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Speaker 1: she's coming.

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Speaker 2: No, why would she? What does she gain from that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So Tuesday we spent the day split up, mostly with

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Speaker 3: me and Robert going to a protest and Sophie entering

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Speaker 3: the United Center to watch the lib Utopia unveil, complete

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Speaker 3: with an appearance.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy Lil John I believe is what he's

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Speaker 4: referred to as.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is that is correct?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, just checking as someone currently wearing a mesh shirt.

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Speaker 2: He is in your line of descendants, like this is

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Speaker 2: one of your one of your saintedt ancestors.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about that.

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Speaker 3: And we will we will get to the Little John

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Speaker 3: anticks Uh specifically with the State of Georgia, which made

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Speaker 3: quite a show. Later on in the episode we will

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Speaker 3: be talking about that, but first we will be talking

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Speaker 3: about what me and Robert spent a good I don't know,

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Speaker 3: four hours yesterday doing.

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Speaker 2: I was out for closer to eight because I went

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Speaker 2: out earlier to look at some stuff I went to.

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Speaker 2: There was a pro Israel Free the Hostages event that

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Speaker 2: I went to and looked around. Briefly, not a whole

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't really clear until you got up close

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a purchase plan for later this evening.

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Speaker 3: As me and Sophie were going to get lunch, I saw.

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Speaker 2: Like Sophie and I.

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Speaker 1: I saw they both just looked at me, deciding who

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: You were the United Kingdom and me correcting Garrison's grammar,

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Speaker 3: I saw a whole bunch of police vans driving through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the start of it was there was the same

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Speaker 2: There was had been a Nazi lady out at the

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Speaker 2: protest the day before as well. She has like bright

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like a white genocide, white

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Speaker 4: Did someone else with her?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Of cops, well, a bunch of private security, a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of private security, mostly for the media. There's a fun

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Speaker 2: I get over there, and I didn't even think to

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Speaker 2: I just shouted as soon as I got close, Oh fuck,

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Speaker 2: it's the MyPillow guy. There's is the least news anything

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Speaker 2: a couple of protesters kept engaging him about Gaza, which

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that there's anything to be gained

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Speaker 2: the way you chose to engage the MyPillow.

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Speaker 3: Guy, I think there's really only one way to handle this,

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Speaker 3: and well there's maybe two ways. You can just completely

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Speaker 4: Ask what I did, because.

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Speaker 3: There's there's no reason to engage with this. There's no

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Speaker 3: So I went up and I didn't even ask a question.

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Speaker 3: I just I just said you said Mike first, which

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Speaker 1: I just want the listeners to know that after a

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Speaker 1: the hotel Garrison and Robert have had several drinks in

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Speaker 1: Garrison is like, did you see my video? Did you

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Speaker 1: see my video? And what was that video?

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Speaker 4: We'll play the audio here. Mike skimbity Biden, skimmity.

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Speaker 3: Biden, skimmity Biden, gimty skimmity Biden.

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Speaker 4: So no, I was able to get Mike. You know,

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Speaker 3: Let's how you guys talk now, it's around to say

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Speaker 3: these guys. It's just like just like just really you're

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Speaker 4: Because all he wants.

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Speaker 3: Is attention to take his little piece and trying to

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Speaker 2: And it's it's kind of a good sign that he

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Speaker 3: Left, no everything he was saying I'm able to hear

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Speaker 3: that's that was pretty much the little pre show circus,

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Speaker 3: Or five layered line of Chicago PD came to block

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Speaker 3: very little impact on DNC attendees. All the way over

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Speaker 2: The purple haired.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna run into a line of police.

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Speaker 4: People are people are trying to get out and police are.

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Speaker 3: Police are really trying to trap them.

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Speaker 4: Police are squashing. We can't we can't move dude, we

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Speaker 3: Eventually, police realize that they cannot push all fifty people

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Speaker 4: All right, they're pushing us back towards the building.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Chicago p D is kind of doing the same.

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Speaker 3: They're reforming their line, going back more into the middle

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Speaker 3: All right, I just heard on police comms that they're

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Speaker 3: me on the comms they're calling out specific people to

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Speaker 3: been enough of a cause that the anticipation keep from growing.

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Speaker 3: Does everyone knows what's about to happen. We're just waiting

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Speaker 4: The fast time protesters that in front of the building

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Speaker 2: You see that doesn't block just bounced?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think they could spot that they were

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Speaker 3: because I honestly.

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Speaker 2: I can't name any law breaking other than quote unquote shoving.

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Speaker 5: With the path.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but I mean, you know they can get you

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Speaker 3: Protest did not stay still for too long, and a

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Speaker 4: They're turning. They turned down Clinton Street.

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Speaker 3: This is the movement they tried to make before, but

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Speaker 3: bike cops have beat most of the crowd to the intersection,

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Speaker 3: but they're still slowly arriving. The intersection up here is

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Speaker 3: Yep, all right, more please catch it up. I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: You can hear bike cops coming in from both sides. Well,

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: They don't really have many more move to make.

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Speaker 4: Police are piling into the sidewalk. Police are making arrests.

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Speaker 3: The remaining crowd attempted to move away from the police

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Speaker 4: People are linking up with their AG's.

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Speaker 4: Right now. There's so everywhere we go, I see.

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Speaker 3: Mostly out of options on where to go, the protest

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Speaker 3: Protesters are now getting into the terrace of this building

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Speaker 3: A shoving match just started. Police are moving in and

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Speaker 3: Police have one arrest now They just drag someone out

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Speaker 3: and vandalism unquote. Now, there was no vandalism that was

443
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Speaker 3: actually committed during this protest. That did not happen. I'm

444
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Speaker 3: not sure how the superintendent was able to infer the

445
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: intention of this protest exactly as no vandalism took place

446
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: and the only violence that happened was when police started

447
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Speaker 3: pushing people who were trying to march forwards in the street.

448
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Speaker 2: Wow, Garrison, that was a gripping story that we're going

449
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: to talk about.

450
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Speaker 3: After these services, services, products, okay, products and services.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe we can't know. It's impossible to say

452
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: we're back, so I don't know. I guess we should

453
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: probably just kind of give some final thoughts on how

454
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,239
Speaker 2: we felt about this protest. My overwhelming impression, and I

455
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: really am not saying this to try to be mean,

456
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: is that the crowd came with a lot of rhetoric

457
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Speaker 2: about this is the protest that matters, We are going

458
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Speaker 2: to shut down the DNC, we are going to throw

459
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Speaker 2: our bodies upon the machinery of empire. And then after

460
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Speaker 2: the first couple of hand to hand clashes with the police,

461
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Speaker 2: which were mostly just kind of shoving, people just wanted

462
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Speaker 2: to get home, they wanted to leave, and most of

463
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Speaker 2: the night was us following people attempting to get home

464
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Speaker 2: and disperse and not being allowed to buy the police

465
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Speaker 2: every time they would like do a big push in

466
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Speaker 2: where they're all shouting move in unison. They're telling you

467
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Speaker 2: to go back, They're telling you to do this or

468
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Speaker 2: you'll get arrested. And there's always you're always surrounded on

469
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Speaker 2: every side by cops and you know, sometimes by gaggles

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Speaker 2: of media. But like it was impossible to comply. I

471
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Speaker 2: can't say that I saw any law breaking really, aside

472
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Speaker 2: from assuming the cops called an unlawful assembly, which I

473
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Speaker 2: did not hear. I don't know how you would have

474
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: heard in most of the product protests, but assuming they did,

475
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Speaker 2: as that's the law breaker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was no like property damage, there was no

477
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: there was no no real light activity. Yeah, you know,

478
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Speaker 3: people people tried to march and police prevented them with

479
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: their bodies. Yep, and you know there's a confrontation that ensues,

480
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Speaker 3: like at that point where where the two groups meet.

481
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Speaker 3: But besides that, it was it was it was people

482
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Speaker 3: trying to march and the cops that prevented them from

483
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Speaker 3: doing so.

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Speaker 2: And it was a lot. I got stuck at one

485
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Speaker 2: point with a group of twenty or so people, a

486
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Speaker 2: handful of protesters, couple of media, and then maybe a

487
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Speaker 2: dozen or more like I think they were locals. I

488
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: guess it's possible they were tourists, but people who had

489
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Speaker 2: just seen the march going down the street and thought

490
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Speaker 2: that they might follow along and watch for a little

491
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Speaker 2: And then the cops moved in so fast. We all

492
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Speaker 2: got walled off in the courtyard of a hotel that

493
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Speaker 2: didn't actually have street access, but it wasn't clear that

494
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Speaker 2: it didn't, and the police repeated said they were going

495
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Speaker 2: to arrest all of us. I had like a discussion

496
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Speaker 2: with one about my credentials because he was like, those

497
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Speaker 2: are press credential. Eventually they got a cop who could read,

498
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Speaker 2: but another journalists got arrested. I think there were at

499
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Speaker 2: least four arrested.

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Speaker 4: E mean, at least four journalists were arrest at least.

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Speaker 2: Four journalists were arrested. Yeah, because after I got out,

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Speaker 2: they let most of the people in our kettle out,

503
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Speaker 2: but they pulled one guy with a helmet that said

504
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Speaker 2: press on it out of the kettle. I think his

505
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Speaker 2: name was Josh Pacheco. I believe it was Josh that

506
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Speaker 2: I was filming. Josh was definitely arrested, and he is

507
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Speaker 2: going to be raising money because his camera was broken.

508
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Speaker 2: They tossed his linen like cameras lens first onto the ground.

509
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Speaker 2: It did significant damage. If you want to find Josh's

510
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: info online at jp Underscore OTG you can find his information.

511
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be doing a fundraiser at some point.

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Speaker 3: And obviously there were many more protesters arrested. The actual

513
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Speaker 3: final number is kind of up in the air. Police

514
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Speaker 3: that are saying that twenty two people at least were

515
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Speaker 3: arrested and is saying it's closer to admit.

516
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Speaker 2: Being the National Lawyer's Guild, they show up at protests

517
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Speaker 2: to protect people's rights, primarily in the event of arrest.

518
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's kind of some confusion here on how

519
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: many people were actually arrested. I'll try to get confirmations

520
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: and i'll add that in later tonight. I'll also look

521
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: for a bail fund, yeah, to donate as well, because

522
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: it is always unfortunate when journalists are arrested, but yeah,

523
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Speaker 3: it's equally as unfortunate when people who are protesting, especially

524
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Speaker 3: for a cause like this, get arrested as well. Like

525
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Speaker 3: this is I think something that it's worth stating.

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Speaker 2: Especially since again I can't say anything anyone did to

527
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Speaker 2: precipitate arrest. It's not even like they were closing down streets,

528
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: because the police had closed down every street they were

529
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Speaker 2: on before they showed up. I think the police very

530
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: clearly were under orders to keep things peaceful as long

531
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Speaker 2: as possible, largely because they didn't want the DNC and

532
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: the city government didn't want the embarrassment of anything really ugly.

533
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Speaker 2: So there were no weapons used. There's no mace used.

534
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Speaker 2: I didn't even really see the sticks used much.

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Speaker 4: They were mostly used like push.

536
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Speaker 3: There was very little in terms of like like like

537
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Speaker 3: overhand hitting.

538
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Speaker 2: But they didn't need any of that stuff because there

539
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: was no point at which they had less than a

540
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: two to one numerical advantage, usually more like three or four.

541
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Speaker 3: And the people that were organizing this protest in the

542
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: in the days prior were like announcing part of their

543
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: intention was to specifically get beat up by police and

544
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Speaker 3: like beat up badly and have this like generate news coverage,

545
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: have this you know, this slight Stare organization as well, Yeah,

546
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: invoking Chicago nineteen sixty eight, and police largely like denied

547
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Speaker 3: them that option. And you know, many of the participants

548
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: also opteds to to not continue, you know, in an

549
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: hour's long physical confrontation with police and instead opted to

550
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Speaker 3: try to move around them, try to evade them, instead

551
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: of trying to you know, push through police lines. You know,

552
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Speaker 3: there was a few points where the police lines that

553
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: were blocking the street was very sin after people started

554
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Speaker 3: to move move around the this kind of area, around

555
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: around the consulate building, and then you know, other times

556
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: the police lines were very thick, but consistently people opted

557
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: to not continue a long physical engagement with police.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a discretion is the better part of

559
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: valor kind of night, and I think that's the point

560
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: at which the police decided we are going to arrest people.

561
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: There was a degree to which it felt like they

562
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Speaker 2: were just kind of like trying out tactics. A lot

563
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Speaker 2: of what they were doing was splitting up the crowd

564
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Speaker 2: then doing targeted arrests and kind of separating, calving off

565
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Speaker 2: chunks of it. I don't know. The whole thing I

566
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: kind of couldn't stop myself from being drawn back to

567
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: the whole time is like, what is the actual utility

568
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: of this really? Because it didn't get attention, not much.

569
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Speaker 2: You know, there's some news coverage and stuff, but it's

570
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Speaker 2: not a Chicago sixty eight moment. I don't think this

571
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Speaker 2: is going to move any needle for anybody, and obviously

572
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Speaker 2: that's the goal, right, is to have some kind of

573
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Speaker 2: an impact. I mean everyone was saying, like the stated

574
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: goal at all of these protests shut down the DNC,

575
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Speaker 2: and the only time that kind of happened was at

576
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Speaker 2: the less radical protest police protests yesterday, right, and largely

577
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Speaker 2: kind of by accident. I don't know like that. I'm

578
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: not trying to be like down on anyone. It just

579
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: is one of those what when you're seeing the sheer

580
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Speaker 2: weight of police and the numbers of protesters being generated

581
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Speaker 2: is one hundred or two hundred, it just feels like

582
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Speaker 2: you're asking people to get fucked up and damage their

583
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: lives in a situation in which that's unlikely to actually

584
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Speaker 2: lead to any of the things they want to see.

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is gare cutting in again.

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Speaker 3: The exact number of arrests is still a little bit unclear,

587
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: but we have a clearer idea than what we did

588
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: a few hours ago. The official number as of Wednesday

589
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 3: evening is that fifty six people were arrested. I'm going

590
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: to quote from the AP quote thirty of the people

591
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: detained by police were issued citations for disorderly conduct. According

592
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Speaker 3: to Chicago Police, one person was arrested on a felony

593
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Speaker 3: charge of resisting police, while nine were charged with misdemeanors

594
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Speaker 3: including disorderly conduct, resisting officers, battery, assault, and criminal damage

595
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: to property. Police said, unquote for the record, neither myself

596
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: nor Robert witnessed any criminal damage to property.

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Speaker 2: I guess to kind of conclude a protest that's going

598
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Speaker 2: to actually like move the Needler change. Anything has to

599
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: overwhelm like the capacity of the state system to deal

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Speaker 2: with it. It has to be something that the state

601
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Speaker 2: is not. We saw this in twenty twenty right like

602
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Speaker 2: just over I'm just talking about Portland, just like overall,

603
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: the George Floyd up rising was beyond what the state

604
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Speaker 2: was prepared to handle for at least a sizeable chunk,

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Speaker 2: especially of the early days. It like overwhelmed the capacity

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Speaker 2: of the resources the state had to respond adequately. The state,

607
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Speaker 2: at least everything I've seen so far at the DNC

608
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: has been perfectly prepared for everything that people brought to bear.

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Speaker 2: And that's really the summary I've gotten.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go on a quick break and then

611
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Speaker 3: be back to hear from Sovie about the Obama festival

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Speaker 3: inside the Democratic National Convention. All right, we are back

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Speaker 3: and as as this protest was happening in this area

614
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Speaker 3: around like I think it's called the West Loop, Sophie

615
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: was inside the d n C and there was also

616
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Speaker 3: people similar to the first day of the DNC who

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Speaker 3: who snuck in like banners into the DNC and unfurled

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Speaker 3: them like pro Palestine disarming as royal banners. I believe

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Speaker 3: the banner from last night just read free Palestine and Sophie.

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Speaker 3: What was it like in there exactly? Was it easier

621
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Speaker 3: to get into than the than the day previous.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was more, it was it was it was

623
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Speaker 1: is what I'll say. It wasn't as organized as the

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Speaker 1: R and C, but it was. It was better than

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Speaker 1: the day prior. That's a win is a win at

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Speaker 1: this point. But yeah, the energy was electric, as once

627
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Speaker 1: I heard multiple people say throughout the night in the

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Speaker 1: unass press area that I was in.

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Speaker 3: It felt like, at least from watching online afterwards, it

630
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: gave really big, like two thousand and eight energy.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And obviously you know, Michelle Obama Barack Obama are

633
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: both speaking, so that that kind of carries with it

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but even just like the general vibe

635
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: just felt it felt very two thousand and eight, like

636
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: that style of like two thousand and eight optimism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I've been asked

638
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot like what the energy is compared to the

639
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Speaker 1: rn C, and like the RNC was more like a

640
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: WWE event and this was more like a you know,

641
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: B level pop star concert, sure where everyone was very

642
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Speaker 1: excited to be there, where I only knew a couple

643
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: of the songs.

644
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: Sure was.

645
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: That was the general vibe. But the main speed section

646
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Speaker 1: of the event started off with Center Majority leader Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 4: And I watched his speech. It was not very good.

648
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: He came out and and was what some would describe

649
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: as dancing on stage.

650
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Speaker 4: He was quesetable. His speech was very like robotic. Yeah

651
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: it was. He was not good.

652
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: Well, he's the head of the dim Crypto Caucus, so

653
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: like he's part robot.

654
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: But it was like people were not super into him.

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Speaker 1: He was whatever. But then Bertie Sanders came up and

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Speaker 1: I was actually surprised at the crowd was as into

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Speaker 1: him as they.

658
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 4: Were, but not super into No, no, no, oh.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong with nothing like nothing like the

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Speaker 1: Obama's later and then.

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Speaker 4: Nothing even like AOC. It seems no, they.

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Speaker 1: Definitely loved AOC a lot more than Bernie. I enjoyed

663
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Speaker 1: his speech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave like one of the more like economically

665
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: sound speeches talking about actual issues facing working people.

666
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: Correct. I would say, you know, a lot of the

667
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: other journalists around me were talking during that time. They

668
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: were not thoroughly paying attention to him, which was interesting

669
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Speaker 1: to know.

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Speaker 3: It was the same speech that he's been giving since

671
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. Essentially, I feel like, fortunately, the economic situation

672
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: in the States has not changed all that much.

673
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Speaker 1: I feel like Bertie Sands has been giving the stay

674
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Speaker 1: of speech his entire career.

675
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, and like the same stuff he was calling

676
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: for back then, with the with the one percent and

677
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: the billionaire class and healthcare and all these things that

678
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: are still real issues, and in some ways I feel

679
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: like they were more talked about back in like, you know,

680
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, and the fact that they aren't just talked

681
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: about now is maybe, you know, to some degree, like

682
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: a failing. But no, he gave the speech that he

683
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: was expected to make, and yeah.

684
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Speaker 1: He called for an end to his words horrific war

685
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: in Gaza and called for a ceasefire. One of the

686
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: few this entire week that we've heard actually say that.

687
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: AFC said it yesterday.

688
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: Well, and an AOC's specific line was crediting Harris for

689
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: working around the clock to make a ceasfire deal was

690
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: specifically like the phrasing that AOC used.

691
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't buy that, super well.

692
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 4: No, well, I'm not afraid to admit is that.

693
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: Because I was at the protest, I had the intention

694
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: of just watching all the speeches in my hotel afterwards,

695
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: and I got up to my room, I turned on CNN.

696
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: They were replaying the whole night, and after Bernie's speech,

697
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: I completely fell asleep. And then and then I woke

698
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: up at eight am. CN was still on my television.

699
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: That is so cursed. I turned it off and I

700
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: went back to Staarson.

701
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: You had some nightmares on spooling.

702
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what was being subjected to my sleeping body.

703
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: You're never recovering from this.

704
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: After Bertie, you know, i'd say, the only other person

705
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: until we get to the second gentleman, Doug m Hoff

706
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: and then the Obama's later that I was, you know,

707
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: the governor of Illinois, Pritzker.

708
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Pritzker.

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Speaker 1: He he just was very very well received, obviously by

710
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: by the crowd, as we are.

711
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: One of the democrats favorite and one of their favorite boys.

712
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: Early on, a favorite for the VP slot. Yeah, he's very.

713
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Good at attacking Trump and his speeches. He said Trump

714
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: is only rich in one thing, stupidity, and the crowd

715
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: went fair.

716
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was definitely the most like a mean out

717
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: of many of the speech gis.

718
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Speaker 2: I would say though, like last night was the roasting nights.

719
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: Last night was the roasting Okay, for sure they did.

720
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: Bamba made a dick joke.

721
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: Obama made a dick John. We'll get to We'll get

722
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: to that. But yeah, so just like visually, they have

723
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: like those light up things that you have at concerts.

724
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I do.

725
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Before I get into taking this back into time to

726
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, talk a little bit about the

727
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: role call sure.

728
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: Sure, And this is where they formerly like ceremonially nominate

729
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: Harris and Walls to be the president and vice presidential nominees.

730
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Correct, And let's just say it was a little bit

731
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: different than the RNC. At the RNC, you have speaker

732
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: Johnson just telling the delegates that we need to keep

733
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: order and there's a proper way to do things. And

734
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: then you had people from each state come up and

735
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: make speeches like this.

736
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Speaker 5: Fighting for liberty since sixteen seventy where the revolutionary and

737
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 5: all was one. We're in twenty sixteen. Donald Trump won

738
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: his first primary victory ever. Let's ring in the Trump

739
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 5: Carol of American histories, the great State of South Carolina,

740
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 5: Crown cares all fifty of its fops.

741
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: Okay, come on.

742
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: And on the flip side at the DNC, and I

743
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: had several friends that were watching on TV say it

744
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: was translating very well on TV.

745
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: It was.

746
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: It was a little bit more chaotic in person, and

747
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: certain states didn't match the same energy. But each state

748
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: had had a song. There was a whole playlist thing

749
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: and that is now going around and the energy was

750
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: of a I would say Teen Choice Awards is brand.

751
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: It was a Teen Choice Awards vibe with Garrison. The

752
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: state of Georgia doing this.

753
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: Wow, So that's very cool, Sophie.

754
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I will say the state of Oregon did not.

755
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Speaker 4: Well, No, that's because organ is allergic to fun.

756
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Oregan in Wisconsin. Boy, howdy, did they not bring the

757
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: good vibes.

758
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: Well, that's because all you can do in Wisconsin is drink,

759
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: and all in organ you can do is smoke weed.

760
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: So there you go.

761
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: After the roll call, they cut to VP Harris and

762
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls streaming live from Milwaukee.

763
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Speaker 3: The Pfizer Forum, where we all suffered through last month.

764
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: Yes, that was where the RNC was held last month,

765
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Speaker 1: to be like, look at us, Donald.

766
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: We're able to fill both venues at the same time.

767
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: We are so hip and cool and of course the

768
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: crowd lost their minds.

769
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: Ate it up.

770
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: They love they love so.

771
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: Pretty good. Burn it's it's.

772
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: It's not a bad is this was You're getting kind

773
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: of a glimpse. Ever since, like the Republicans are weird stuff,

774
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: they've been realizing that it's actually really useful to be

775
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: kind of mean in politics. Yeah, for so long this

776
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: party has been like linked to when they go low,

777
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: we go high. You know, we're gonna we're gonna make

778
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: a compromise, We're gonna gona We're going to reach across

779
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: the aisle.

780
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean last night it was not they go low,

781
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: we go high. It was definitely they go low, we

782
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: also go low, and you know that was interesting to

783
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: observe because the crowd loved it.

784
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: It plays very well.

785
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: It plays very well. Before the Obamas, we got a

786
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: speech from the second Gentleman, which is very fun to say,

787
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Kabla Harris's husband, Doug. Doug, I like that.

788
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: Let's let's keep trying that again.

789
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: You can't.

790
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: But they introed him with a video from his son

791
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: and it was very TV movie of the Week, heartwarming.

792
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: And then he came out on stage and introduced his

793
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: dad and there was hugging La La Lah and the

794
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: crowd was allowed, as it did Ben that night, and

795
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I love families, but I was like, wow,

796
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: the crowd is so loud. And then like ten minutes later,

797
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama came out and I was like, the crowd

798
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: was very quiet for Doug and Poff. In comparison, she

799
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: is by far the most popular Democrat in the world.

800
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: There is an Obama derangement syndrome. It ignites something in

801
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: millennials and.

802
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: Makes them really love the Obama.

803
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: They really love their mamas, lose their minds.

804
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Doug's speech primarily focused on painting a picture of his

805
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: wife as a family, family woman, and talking about how

806
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: great she is with their with their kids. He has

807
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: two kids from his first marriage and they call her

808
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Mama La.

809
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: But she's not a real mom, you know, Robert Roberts. Look,

810
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: I've been listening to a lot of Matt. This is

811
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: a real scandal. They're not her born children. You know,

812
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: you can't adopt kids.

813
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: You gotta stop listening to Matt Walsh podcasts when you're

814
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: doing your workout.

815
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Speaker 2: I do love that the right has entirely chosen the

816
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: line of attack on Kamala to be that like.

817
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: She's a fake mom.

818
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: She's a fake mom. She raised Pamala.

819
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: No, because we're quoting Matt Wall.

820
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's how he says.

821
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: That's absolutely by the way, Matt Walsh was like in

822
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: a disguise.

823
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Also, they're all in disguise walking around the.

824
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: DNC doing something that doesn't matter.

825
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: See that Matt Wall showed up in his like what

826
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: is a woman liberal disguise with the with the little

827
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Speaker 3: pony tails, Dude, Harry, I showed up.

828
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: I showed up kind of it.

829
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: Well, my disguise just being a regular black suit, which

830
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: I also wear regularly all the time. I'm pretty sure

831
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: whals she was trying to get some extra clips for

832
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 3: his new like how racism Isn't real documentary that they're

833
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: playing ads for in theaters in front of like queer

834
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: and trans movies, like specifically to like fuck with people.

835
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure they're they're here collecting some kind

836
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: of some kind of some kind of foot for that

837
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: because he had a little love mic attached to his

838
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: attached to his lapel, so he's doing some kind of hijinks.

839
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: But Yeah, it's interesting to me how much of the

840
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: attacks on Kamala right now are focused on her family

841
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: not being a real family. It strikes me as kind

842
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: of a sign of desperation because I'm not saying it

843
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: get any traction. It's the same as like the tim

844
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: Wall stuff, where it's like nothing sticking that they're trying

845
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: right now, And I think they've just gotten so far

846
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: into their own fever swamps that they have completely forgotten

847
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: how to connect with a hit, which is an interesting

848
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: place for the Republicans to be because that's all they have.

849
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Duck, read the teleprompter. It's fun being able to

850
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: see the teleprompter because you can see where they have

851
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: bolded words or underlied words or capitalized words, and any

852
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: bold or capitalized word. He really went for it, and

853
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: I personally thought that was funny to observe. But the

854
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: crab liked him, and I was like, wow, they really

855
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: like Doug m Hoff. Wow. And then I was like, no,

856
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: that's not who they actually like, because then Michelle Obama

857
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: came out and the crowd standing ovations. I can't even

858
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: tell you it was louder than like I've seen Beyonce concert,

859
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: same exact amount of loudness, but yeah, it was just

860
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: very two thousand and eight, very twenty twelve. Her speech

861
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: was incredible.

862
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: What did she actually talk about?

863
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: Nothing, but it was incredible, is what I'm saying. She

864
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: just basically talked about how important it is to do

865
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: things without saying anything. She was able to resonate with

866
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: every single person in the crowd. Every single person in

867
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Speaker 1: the crowd was just enamored.

868
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Speaker 2: What it's been so many bad months in a row

869
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: of news and just getting constantly beat down in every

870
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: news cycle and war and genocide overseas, and a lot

871
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: of people. As soon as Biden stepped down, it was

872
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: like a rubber band breaking and everyone just went from

873
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: what this was host did not happen as a convention.

874
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: They were serious efforts by the DNC when Biden was

875
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: still a candidate to like, we don't even need to

876
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: do a real convention because like, what is the benefit

877
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: of sticking him in front of people for longer? And

878
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: they broke a pinata full of party energy and that's

879
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: that's what this has all been inside and honestly not

880
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: a lot of energy outside in the streets, you know,

881
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Speaker 2: energy from the people who were there. But like, I

882
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: think there would have been much larger crowds if Biden

883
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: had stayed.

884
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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with you. You know, Michelle

885
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: Obama brought back, you know, one of the key things

886
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight, Hope. She said, Hope is

887
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: making it come back, and the crowd lost it.

888
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

889
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: I think that's really part of what made last night

890
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: have so much of that two thousand and eight energy

891
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 3: beyond you know, like all of like all of like

892
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: the pop songs beyond like the Obamas. It's like this

893
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: this messaging of like there's actually there's actually like a

894
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: good future to look towards, like hope, you know, that's.

895
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Speaker 1: As long as we defeat Donald Trump. Sure, Hope is

896
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: available was the mean theme of the night, and then

897
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: she introduced President Obama. He came out, hammed it up,

898
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: told his little jokes. He was so excited. You could

899
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: tell he was like so excited to be able to

900
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: tell his material to that larger crowd. He was like

901
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: very excited to be up there. We got yes we

902
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: can chance, then later yes she can chance. At one

903
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: point the crowd started chanting thank you Joe, as they

904
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: do when Joe Biden was referenced, and he directly said

905
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: that the torch has been passed. There we go, and

906
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: that is generally the summary of the night. Lib Topia,

907
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: as I'm calling the DNC was very excited.

908
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Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds thrilling. It's really making me optimistic about

909
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Speaker 3: the future.

910
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I am more optimistic of the future

911
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: than I was. But also what I do foresee from

912
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: this is that we are heading into a future assuming

913
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: the dims win, especially if they win by a sizable margin,

914
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: where they get meaner to everyone. The thing they learned

915
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: from Trump is you should call people names and be shit.

916
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: And you know that'll get turned on the left because

917
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: the left it already has, Yeah, as it already has.

918
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: But also the left is going to continue not having

919
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: much of an impact on the broader situation until people

920
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: have any sort of ability to actually get folks out

921
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: and have a clear understand like a clear plan for

922
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: something to do that the system cannot easily easily contain

923
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: and withstand right like little marches and demonstrations. Not only

924
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: is the police prepared for them, but the Democratic Party,

925
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: I think is increasingly prepared for how you isolate and

926
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: sort of deflect attention from that sort of thing, like

927
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: a lot of what we've seen on the floor at

928
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: the DNC with the Yeah, we'll have Bernie come up

929
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: and he'll talk about a ceasefire. We'll have AOC have

930
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: or ceasefire like Joe, we'll say that the protesters have

931
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: a point. You should listen to them now, not going

932
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: to He's not going to draw any other attention if

933
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: you were to like come down an attack or you know,

934
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: the protesters for you know, whatever bad piece of messaging

935
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: or something happened outside that actually does draw some attention,

936
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, Like the DIMS have not just been smart

937
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: in what they've signaled, but in how they've made sure

938
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: that that really hasn't become part of the story of

939
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: the DNC and heading into this that was a huge

940
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: fear a lot of people had, and a huge expectation

941
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people had. It was part of the

942
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: planning that a lot of the protests that came in

943
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: with that we are going to disrupt and damage this

944
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: kind of coronation process in order to make it very

945
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: clear that the Democratic Party has not made any meaningful

946
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: movement on Gaza. And I think what we've seen here

947
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: is the start of a replicable strategy that, unless there's

948
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: an alteration in how people are organizing, is going to

949
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: allow the DIMS to continue to sideline radical voices pushing

950
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: for things that matter.

951
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think one trend that we're going to

952
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: see continuing, especially if someone like Kamala wins, I'm starting

953
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 3: to see a growing kind of reclamation of liberal patriotism.

954
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: Yes, there were USA signs last.

955
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: Night and USA chance and I think this will be

956
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: something I'll proably talk a little bit more tomorrow or

957
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: the next day after, like Kamala's like big speech, and if.

958
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: They do win, I think this.

959
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: I think there actually is a decent bit of like

960
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight energy and like, yes, people are excited.

961
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: There's the quote unquote vibe shift. But things didn't go

962
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 3: great after Obama was elected. Famously, like everything just kind

963
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: of yeah, like the hope was mostly unfounded, like a.

964
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: Lot of war crimes.

965
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: There's a lot of war crimes and just not that

966
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 4: much good stuff.

967
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the the ACA mattered. There are some

968
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: things that got better after it, but the whole fight

969
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: to get there was so dispiriting, and I think that

970
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: that kind of broke Obama the actual like interested in

971
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: pushing radical change, and then the Republicans absolute lutely swept

972
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: midterms to such a catastrophic extent, and I foresee Kamala

973
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: getting stuck in the same thing that Obama did in

974
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: terms of like it is actually very hard to make

975
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: any substantive progress that helps people. I don't know that

976
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: she's going to have to deal with a Republican party

977
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: that is capable of doing what the Republicans did during

978
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: like the Tea Party mini terms.

979
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: That's just that's a very different Republican party. And then

980
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 3: the one that exists now.

981
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: The one that exists now has been lobotomized by Trump,

982
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: and well, he's going if he's alive, he's going to

983
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: run in twenty twenty eight. Yeah.

984
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: But this, this kind of this growing reclamation of like patriotism.

985
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: We've already seen it with how like you know, the

986
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: NFL is gone woke. All these things that have kind

987
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: of been more affiliated with like you know, conservatism or

988
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: like you know, like traditional Americana is slowly getting swept

989
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: up more with like the liberal majority, and you know,

990
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: those types of things that have kind of been gate

991
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: kept from liberals for a while, especially especially that kind

992
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: of style of patriotism. And this isn't this isn't necessarily

993
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: a good thing. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just

994
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: saying that this is gonna be a trend that I

995
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: think is going to be increasing, and it will also

996
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: lead to, I think a bit more open hostility from

997
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: liberals towards people that are more progressive, towards people more

998
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: on the left, especially protesters, especially protesters who are not

999
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: just doing protests that are big parades and marches. And

1000
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: we've already seen that here with a decent bit of

1001
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: conflict between you know, more radical attendees and the big

1002
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: coalitions with their safety teams. We were seeing a lot

1003
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 3: of fighting over you know, who is more justified, what's

1004
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: more valid what should you be allowed to do at

1005
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: a protest like this? And those debates are going to continue.

1006
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 3: I think we'll seeing more pressure on that front, even

1007
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: from liberals as well. And that's kind of the big

1008
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 3: the big trends that I'm seeing right now as we're

1009
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: about like halfway through the DNC.

1010
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm going to finally go to the DNC tonight,

1011
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: so that'll be fun.

1012
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: I'll show you around.

1013
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can show me around.

1014
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 4: We're gonna meet Daddy Walls.

1015
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: I'll take my my anti PTSD meds, all overdose on

1016
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: those meds. You can take me to the hospital. Gonna

1017
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: be a nice night, Sophe.

1018
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: The good news is there's two more days of this.

1019
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: All right, as news i've heard in a while.

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Speaker 4: I'm turning off this record.

1021
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go leap out of the window.

1022
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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, bye, bye bye.

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