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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, seven time Super Bowl champ, Fox Sports twenty

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Speaker 1: three NFL season. All right, boy, you got a good

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Speaker 1: one this week, Lions or Rams? So it's interesting when

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Speaker 1: I watched the and I asked this all the time.

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Speaker 1: The other night, I had a dinner with a jam

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I love this question. I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, is it scheme or is it players? When

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Speaker 1: you watch the Rams? Do you see brilliant schemes? Do

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Speaker 1: you is it talent? Because man, when they need eleven

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Speaker 1: yards they get it. What are you seeing when you

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Speaker 1: watch the film?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: First of all, it's good to be on the show.

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Speaker 4: Why have you not invited me at all this season?

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Speaker 4: I thought we were in a good rhythm last year.

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Speaker 4: We go to the Super Bowl and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: I'm like xed out from the show. But I'm glad

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Speaker 4: we could at least come on here before the end

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Speaker 4: of the regular season. Yeah, it's it's pretty Uh, it's

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Speaker 4: been pretty awesome. I've covered him a few times this year.

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Speaker 4: I think with Stafford and McVeigh have going Between the

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Speaker 4: two of them, they're just totally in sync.

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Speaker 3: And you throw in these receivers.

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Speaker 4: They've got, you know, obviously Puka and Davonte. The mix

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Speaker 4: of tight ends, they had four pretty good tight ends.

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Speaker 4: I know Higbe's on ir right now, but they're really

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Speaker 4: using a lot of different personnel groupings.

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Speaker 3: And then Quorum last.

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Speaker 4: Week was ridiculous against the Cardinals over one hundred and

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Speaker 4: I think as a team over two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: yards Russian. So you got Kiren, you got Blake Korum,

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Speaker 4: you got these tight ends. And one of the most

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Speaker 4: underrated aspects this team is offensive line.

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Speaker 3: These guys are playing ridiculous upfront.

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Speaker 4: There's not allowed penetration in the run game allow I

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Speaker 4: think the least amount of negative plays than eight team

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Speaker 4: in the league. So it's just it's pretty awesome to watch.

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Speaker 4: I'm fired up because it's Lions, one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: offenses to watch with Jared Goff and the Rams with Stafford,

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Speaker 4: two kind of classic pocket passers. They play the game

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Speaker 4: from their from their neck up, and they obviously have

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Speaker 4: to guys that are extremely talented at receiver. They got

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Speaker 4: great run games, great coaches, aggressive coaches. So this is

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Speaker 4: a perfect game for America's Game of the Week on

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Speaker 4: Fox on.

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Speaker 3: Sunday at four twenty five Eastern.

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Speaker 1: So you were an outlier in terms of playing and

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Speaker 1: being an incredible shape late Stafford. You know he didn't.

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Speaker 1: You had some really Dante Scneccia. You had good protection

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Speaker 1: most of your career. You know, he got the great

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Speaker 1: protection kick. Yeah, he got the you know what kicked

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Speaker 1: you know, Whitworth and McVeigh and the schemes. But when

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Speaker 1: you did get older, let's let's let's take thirty nine

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I think you're The processes just get better

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Speaker 3: Over the course of the season, so you.

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Speaker 4: Don't waste any time being inefficient in the offseason with

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Speaker 4: three seasons. I mean, I still think I could play now,

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Speaker 4: Like they're committing year round for that, and that's that's

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Speaker 4: I think when you get older and you got a

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Speaker 4: He's just had an incredible season, MVP caliber season, and

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Speaker 1: So obviously you can improve as any athlete. But somebody

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Speaker 4: Well, I always care about accuracy from a quarterback standpoint,

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Speaker 4: And the passing game is so important when you're behind

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of ways to get the

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Speaker 4: You better have great and tangibles and resilience built up

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Speaker 3: To be the leader of that team.

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Speaker 4: And I when I watch different guys play, I see

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Speaker 4: I was always a pretty good passer. I was really

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Speaker 3: Good was going to happen with our offense.

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Speaker 4: So the faster I could get it out of my

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Speaker 3: I would just get us into a better play.

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Speaker 4: And that's why guys are wide open and go, oh

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Speaker 3: We got them open.

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Speaker 4: Because if I was able to develop a tool kit

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Speaker 4: I watch Peyton Manning do that for years. We just

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Speaker 4: You never develop real autonomy at quarterback to get your

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Speaker 4: We trust you, And therefore, in big moments, we're going

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Speaker 4: that's the best style of play for sustained success in

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Speaker 1: So this week, I and and you know, I was

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Speaker 1: I have a genetic limitation, and I know that although

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Speaker 1: I once dunk to basketball Tom, no video surface, but

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Speaker 3: But the point is, I'll take word for it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has to. So I put up a screen. I said,

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Speaker 1: I want everybody to look at these quarterbacks who are

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Speaker 1: either leading in the MVP race, lead their division or

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Speaker 1: their name is Joe Burrow. And here's the graphic sixty

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Speaker 1: like Tua, but Tom, you can't tell me. I've stood

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Speaker 1: It's six and a half. Tom Brady. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're hoist on as many trophies. So

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Speaker 1: when people say what's wrong with Jalen Hurts says, folks,

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Speaker 1: you can't see as much. That's not a criticism.

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Speaker 4: just look at the history of quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: So I had picked before the season. Sometimes I get lucky.

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Speaker 4: You know, Josh McDaniel is still one of my great friends.

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Speaker 1: So we've had this argument this week. Everybody is telling me.

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Speaker 4: And I think what a lot of people miss out

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Speaker 4: on is Okay, you're down this particular receiver.

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Speaker 3: Well, what do we do.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're playing the Colts and they have a tremendous offense.

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Speaker 4: The first thought on our offense was, let's run the

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Speaker 4: ball a lot to try to minimize the amount of possessions.

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Speaker 3: We'll give the ball to the Colts. Let's run the ball,

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Speaker 3: let's control the clock.

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Speaker 4: Let's try to win time of possession thirty five minutes

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Speaker 4: to twenty five minutes. Because if they're not on the field,

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Speaker 4: they're not scoring. That's the best that's the best defense

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Speaker 4: we can play. And every week there was a different formula.

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Speaker 4: The urgency was there every week by our coaching staff,

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Speaker 4: and that was communicated to our players about this is

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Speaker 4: how we're going to win this week. That's the most

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Speaker 4: important thing, not what are we going to do two

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Speaker 4: weeks from now when other guys are healthier, other guys

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Speaker 4: are injured, or we don't know the strengths and weakness

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Speaker 4: of that opponent. But we're going to evaluate the opponent

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Speaker 4: we're going to play. We're going to see their strengths,

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Speaker 4: we're going to see their weaknesses. We're going to try

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Speaker 4: to attack their weaknesses, and we're going to try to

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Speaker 4: mitigate their strengths in all three phases of the game.

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Speaker 4: That is an urgency that is probably missing, you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot in the NFL. There's probably three or four

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Speaker 4: teams that really do that, but most of them don't

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Speaker 4: do that. And that's why when you get some injuries

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Speaker 4: to a team, to one of those lesser teams, well

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Speaker 4: they are screwed because if they're slot receivers down, or

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Speaker 4: their tight ends down, or their correct they're not going

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Speaker 4: to score points and if they don't score points, they're

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Speaker 4: not going to win.

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Speaker 1: I'll wrap up with this. Last week was one of

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Speaker 1: the first weeks, maybe the week before that, I watched

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Speaker 1: football and I thought, good God, this looks miserable. It

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Speaker 1: looks so cold, it's snowing. It's awful. I have this

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Speaker 1: sinking suspicion that you actually liked cruddy weather because you

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Speaker 1: viewed it as an advantage because you were a great

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Speaker 1: lousy weather. Your ball, your hip movement, you were a

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Speaker 1: great crafty I've told you that Chicago game in Soldier

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Speaker 1: Field left sideline. I remember watching him thinking that is

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Speaker 1: a perfect cold weather throw. So when the game looks miserable,

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Speaker 1: were you sitting there on Wednesday thinking, Peyton's going to

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Speaker 1: be cold. He plays in the Dome, I can't wait?

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Speaker 1: Did you like it?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I looked at the weather more than anybody in the

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Speaker 4: history of the NFL. My weather app was on overdrive

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Speaker 4: during the football season, constantly looking at the conditions we

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Speaker 4: were playing in, the conditions that are other teams that

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Speaker 4: our confidence were playing in. And because we were in

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Speaker 4: New England and we really never practiced inside, we got

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Speaker 4: so used to all the elements. We got used to

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Speaker 4: the wind. I had to really work hard to throw

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Speaker 4: a very tight spiral. I worked on my mechanics incessantly

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Speaker 4: so that I could drive the ball through the wind.

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Speaker 4: And the tighter the spiral was, the more it could

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Speaker 4: penetrate the wind. So I knew I had to throw

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Speaker 4: a tight spiral. I knew I had to keep my

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Speaker 4: body warm. And how was I going to keep my

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Speaker 4: body warm? How many layers was I going to wear?

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Speaker 4: You know, how many did I wear the scuba suit?

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Speaker 4: If it was below twenty degrees? When did I put

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Speaker 4: it on. You just get so good because you practice

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Speaker 4: in it all year round. In the springtime, we go

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Speaker 4: back in April, we'd have forty five degree days in

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Speaker 4: the rain. We'd be outside working out. So you just

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Speaker 4: get accustomed to that environment. And now this time of

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Speaker 4: year in the NFL, in the Northeast and the Midwest,

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Speaker 4: you know, these outdoor games, they come down to weather

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Speaker 4: eighty percent of the time. You better be good in it,

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Speaker 4: and you better embrace it rather than see it as

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Speaker 4: a big disadvantage. And that's what we did. We always

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Speaker 4: saw as an advantage. The shittier the weather, the better

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Speaker 4: we are gonna go out there.

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Speaker 1: And play, by the way, the broadcasting thing. You're having fun. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I told you that I said this off the air

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Speaker 1: to you. You asked me before your first game. It

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Speaker 1: said something like, listen, you're gonna be nervous. I should

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Speaker 1: have really said something nice. I was like, Tommy, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be nervous for the first five minutes. And you're like, oh, thanks.

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Speaker 1: Really that really helped a lot.

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Speaker 5: Calling.

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Speaker 1: But like, it's I think broadcasting similar to football. It's

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Speaker 1: just reps. It's like work reps. And I will just

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Speaker 1: say this, Are you enjoying it as much as it

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Speaker 1: appears you're enjoying it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I could not have imagined it the transition being any

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Speaker 4: more fun and enjoyable than it's been. I have the

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Speaker 4: greatest team in the world, the greatest partner in Kevin Burkhart,

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Speaker 4: Aaron and Tom Dean Blandino up there with me in

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Speaker 4: the boot, the people that work with us, our whole crew,

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Speaker 4: our director, rich and Richie, our producer, our whole crew,

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Speaker 4: our graphics team, everybody in the truck, our cameramen. We

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Speaker 4: have so much fun. It is such a team environment.

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Speaker 4: We give each other shit all day, We laugh all day.

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Speaker 4: You know, and we get to cover football, and the

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Speaker 4: only thing you want as a broadcaster is a good game.

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Speaker 4: I'm rooting for good game, for good football. I want

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Speaker 4: to see guys perform very well. I want to see

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks play well. I want to see them read the defense.

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Speaker 4: I want to see good blocks. I want to see

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Speaker 4: hard hits. I want the viewer to really understand why

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Speaker 4: this game is so fun to watch, and then teach

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Speaker 4: them a little bit along the way about you know,

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Speaker 4: different things that may come up. But it's such an

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Speaker 4: entertaining it's such an entertaining medium, and I think I've

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed it and it's gone on. You know, you

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Speaker 4: continue to gain more confidence about what your role is

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Speaker 4: and I just know our best is yet to come.

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Speaker 1: But saying your role is welcome, you know, I don't,

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Speaker 1: they asked me. I always tell management, I don't bother him.

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Speaker 1: He's busy, he's always welcome. But you know, you're always welcome.

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Speaker 1: So we just love having you on it and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Colin. Yeah, you do such a great job.

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Speaker 4: You keep up the great work your IOE on top

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Speaker 4: of everything, and it's it's amazing what you do every day.

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Speaker 4: So keep up the great work yourself.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Tom, Yeah, it's thanks.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You bet. Broadcasting's fun. It is got good cruise here

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Speaker 1: and I'll watch the cold well. I always said, there

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Speaker 1: was always a piece of video. It was live. I

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Speaker 1: was watching. It was on another network and it was

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Speaker 1: I lived on the other coast and I was watching.

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Speaker 1: It was New England. It was Brady against Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: and it was like AFC Championship or something, and it

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Speaker 1: was snowing in Foxboro. Therefore, you know, I was an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half away. It was snowing at my

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Speaker 1: house and it was just one of those things. It

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Speaker 1: was a big sandwich game, big sandwich. I'm sitting watching

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Speaker 1: TV for four hours and Jim Nantz is getting ready,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's, oh boy, I got the kickoffs coming

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Speaker 1: up next. And they show a picture of Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: snowing and he looks so cold, and I'm sitting with

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Speaker 1: a friend. I'm like, game's over. New England's winning the game.

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Speaker 1: I said, look at Manning and it just looked like

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Speaker 1: he was, you know, he's playing the dome and it

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Speaker 1: was it was Foxborough cold, and I'm like that's bad

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Speaker 1: body language, like he's cold now, and the Patriots did

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Speaker 1: win that game. By the way, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady just stopped by for about twenty five minute interview.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I asked him about is, you

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Speaker 1: know bow Nicks and Caleb Williams. I've comped them. They

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Speaker 1: have great offensive coaches, They're very athletic, they can make

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Speaker 1: big plays, they're excellent late in games, but both have

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Speaker 1: struggled with accuracy, Specifically, Caleb Williams and Tom Brady said

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Speaker 1: that will eventually be a problem.

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Speaker 4: When you get to the bigger games in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: and the defenses are better in the margin of eras less,

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Speaker 4: you have to be an incredibly accurate passer, and the

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Speaker 4: passing game is so important when you're behind in games,

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Speaker 4: when you are down twenty eight to three, you better

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Speaker 4: be extremely accurate because the windows are very tight.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to.

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Speaker 4: Throw, you know, thirty forty passes in the second half

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Speaker 4: in overtime of a game against a myriad of different coverages,

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Speaker 4: so you're gonna have to understand the strengths and weaknesses

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Speaker 4: of all the coverages.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and you could argue, we'll see Colin green

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Speaker 1: Bay's an elite team and an elite defense, and he

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Speaker 1: threw a big interception. Fair argument. He also made two

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Speaker 1: or three throws that I'm not sure three guys in

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Speaker 1: the league can make. But Chicago in a rare spot

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Speaker 1: this weekend. They're a big favorite over Cleveland and that defense.

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Speaker 1: So we'll keep our eye on that and we'll have

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Speaker 1: Herdline news next.

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 6: We've got a huge sec Biggies battle on Fox. College

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Speaker 6: Hoops Friday, as Texas takes on Solo Ball and fifth

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Speaker 6: rank Yukon. It all tips off tomorrow night at eight

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Speaker 6: eastern Fox.

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Speaker 1: It's not a waste study time lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Turns. This is the headline news.

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Speaker 1: All right. We got to go back to the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Colin.

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Speaker 6: It is looking bleak. Three straight losses in a row.

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Speaker 6: The Vibes Bunny deal thing is over. Jalen Hurts, Listen,

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Speaker 6: let's be real. He's had a rough stretch here.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He only had two picks coming into the Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: He had four five turnovers overall.

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Speaker 6: He's confident in a bounce back against the hapless Raiders.

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Speaker 7: Success or greatness, those things aren't in near. You have yours,

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Speaker 7: you have your downs with Sabah, you respond to it,

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Speaker 7: and I think about think about that. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: it's nothing new that I haven't faced before. It's a

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Speaker 7: matter of responding to it. And I got a lot

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Speaker 7: of confidence how we respond. I've got a lot of

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Speaker 7: confidence how we go.

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Speaker 6: Really struggled reading that Jesse mintor zone defense just confused,

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Speaker 6: throws off Raiders play a lot of his own. Fortunately,

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Speaker 6: Raiders aren't any good players on their defense. But you

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Speaker 6: believe in a bounce back here.

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Speaker 3: Right I do.

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Speaker 1: I don't like these big spreads, Well, then just do

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Speaker 1: like a money line parlay the five big favorites. Put

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Speaker 1: them all together, which one of the ore the Jags losers,

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Speaker 1: the jedli my favorites, the Texans. Texans are beating the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the Eagles losing to the Raiders. If

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Speaker 1: they do, then we can talk about Defcon one and

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Speaker 1: what your favorite big number of the week.

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Speaker 2: It might be the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what a good bye. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how Minnesota is going to score. You're a value investment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the cult are going to score

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Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. They won't, probably like twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: Nothing may mean John Taylor Taylor breaks off a big

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Speaker 6: run or something, but I think the Eagles bounce back. Listen,

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Speaker 6: if they struggle against the Raiders, we really have problems. Otherwise,

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Speaker 6: I think they're fine and they coast after this. They

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Speaker 6: have Washington could be Daniels or Mariota Buffalo good game, and.

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Speaker 1: Then Washington again.

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Speaker 6: They're making the playoffs, right, Sirianni cannot possibly butcher this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure what really Buffalo beats them and

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Speaker 1: Washington beat some ones.

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Speaker 6: Which Washington team shows up? I mean, come on, I

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Speaker 6: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, yeah, they'll minimum they win ten,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna host a playoff game.

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Speaker 6: I think that Seahawks at Eagles would be really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Oh that would wait, Sam Darnold January outdoors against the

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Speaker 1: Eagles defense. That's gonna be a low scoring game. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Weirdly I like the Eagles. I mean it

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Speaker 1: helps because the crush the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so I love them. But anyways, let's move on to.

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Speaker 6: The Pittsburgh Steelers. There were some Mike Tomlin drama recently.

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Speaker 6: Colin fans were chanting fire Tomlin, but there was a

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Speaker 6: report that talked about Tomlin during the final years of

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Speaker 6: his deal. Well, according to Steelers to a Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Insider, get this, the leak of.

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Speaker 6: Tomlin's contract came from his agent, and the insider for

686
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Speaker 6: the Steelers believes they're setting things up for a parting

687
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Speaker 6: of ways with the Steelers and Tomlin after the season,

688
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Speaker 6: So Tomlin's people leaked at Tomlin's people leaked it to

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Speaker 6: show that Pittsburgh has a March first deadline to pick

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Speaker 6: up his twenty twenty seven option. So by March first,

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Speaker 6: if they don't pick up the option, he's a lame

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Speaker 6: duck coach. Nobody wants to be lame duck, right. I

693
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Speaker 6: just still don't agree with this. I know a lot

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Speaker 6: of Steelers fans are like, we had a good run,

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Speaker 6: it's over, You're moving on from Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: I feel like every Steelers season is the same as

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Speaker 1: I grabbed. Well, when you watch this team, what is

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Speaker 1: the only redeemable or give me things that you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get every week.

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin showing up on the sideline, good quotes, And

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know about TJ. Watt. I don't know if you saw,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what the healthy Aaron Rodgers has been one

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Speaker 1: of the more come on.

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Speaker 6: He would couldn't move in the pocket against the Bills, okay,

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Speaker 6: and then a week later we look good against the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's consistent. DK Metcalf has been up

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Speaker 6: and down. They don't You're right, they don't have any

709
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 6: great players anymore? Who's your best player on the Pittsborg

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Speaker 6: Seiels don't say Rogers, It's.

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Speaker 1: They're center from West Virginia, Fraser, If you say so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't know that they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of high end talent. Shalen Wore in their running back.

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Speaker 1: I think TJ. Watt is one or two. And then

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Speaker 1: the center for must.

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Speaker 6: Ja what I believe as a career low in pressures

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Speaker 6: this season.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when I suggested last year and you did,

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Speaker 1: it's time to move him. That was met with outrage.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, gotta get ahead of that stuff. Uh, Steelers hosting

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Speaker 6: the Dolphins Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: I see a three as well all Miami games. Check

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Speaker 1: the weather.

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Speaker 6: If it's in the thirties, consider fading the Dolphins. Although

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Speaker 6: that did not work against the Jets. Last week's final

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Speaker 6: story Shiner Sanders. We have not talked about him yet today.

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Speaker 6: Obviously he's battled, Uh, you know, to move up the

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Speaker 6: depth chart, and he's out starting the final three games

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Speaker 6: of the season.

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Speaker 1: There's a great coach. Sell acknowledged he was good on tape.

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Speaker 1: He was good on tape against Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: Okay, anyway, here's what Shador said about the audition that

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Speaker 6: he has to be the starter of the rest of

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Speaker 6: the season.

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Speaker 5: I just go here and enjoy my day, you know,

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Speaker 5: work hard, do everything I can, and if I'm here,

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Speaker 5: I'm here. I'm not like it's none in my control.

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Speaker 3: So I try to control what I can't control.

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Speaker 5: That's going out there making the right reads, going out

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Speaker 5: there doing the right things, being the person I am,

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Speaker 5: and uh, things will fall how they're supposed to.

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Speaker 6: Good quote is that Shador flexing his own merch there

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Speaker 6: at the at the FT. I mean I saw a

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Speaker 6: money sign and to the second palle, I think I've

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Speaker 6: never seen that before.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I think he's played well. I think

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Speaker 1: I think there's a percentage of people in America that

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Speaker 1: think there are those of us rooting against him. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was going to be a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: so I look like a dope because he goes in

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Speaker 1: the fifth round. So I liked him out of college.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he had a traits, but I thought

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Speaker 1: he was a good beat at dart.

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Speaker 6: Right, there's a clean window.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people are rooting against him. I think

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Speaker 1: there's people absolutely rooting for him. Some what bizarrely. Uh,

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00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: but this idea that there's this group of people on

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Speaker 1: the Browns and outside of the Browns rooting against if

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Speaker 1: you will. Yeah, it's like, folks, I don't like watching

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00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: bad quarterback play. I like one. I mean, Chador's games

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Speaker 1: are fun to watch. He's gonna throw a really bad

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00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: pick every week. That's what young quarterbacks do.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the guy's had two starts at home. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel was like, hey, go international game, go play

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Speaker 6: over there. He's better than Dylan. Come back and play

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Speaker 6: the Steelers. I don't know, he's got much higher So

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Speaker 6: you should we should have Sefan Ski on the show

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Speaker 6: and ask.

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Speaker 1: Him what he thinks. Well, he's not gonna give it obviously.

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Speaker 6: I mean if he thinks Chador is better, he would

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Speaker 6: have started Chadur.

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Speaker 1: Well, Chador wasn't ready because Dylan had so many college starts,

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Speaker 1: he was more prepared. I agree.

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Speaker 6: I mean you could say Chadour has the higher ceiling,

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Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel has the higher floor. I mean if that, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean neither of them is starting week going kids,

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Speaker 6: they mature at different paces incredibly, so yeah, like it's

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Speaker 6: bizarre who's the.

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Speaker 1: Starting quarterback for Brown's Week one next year.

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 1: Oh stop, they're too good to get the number one

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Speaker 1: or number two pick. They're gonna win games. What No, really, could.

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Speaker 6: We get this Brown schedule for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, don't game here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So they're losing the Bears. They ain't beating the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. They're gonna give that Bills.

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Speaker 1: They can run the ball. They just lost to the Titans,

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Speaker 1: the one win Titans. How are they beating any of

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Speaker 1: these teams. Cleveland's absolutely winning one of those games. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's winning one of those games that off social media

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Speaker 1: Teamsburg Cincinnati could win.

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Speaker 6: List the more she do her on tape, they're gonna

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Speaker 6: just eat him up.

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Speaker 1: I mean that resurgent Bengals. I'm telling you can't say

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Speaker 1: the straight face. You can say what you want. They

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Speaker 1: beat Green Bay. That's with the less talented quarterback. Well

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Speaker 1: that was Flaco actually less talented.

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Speaker 6: So just remember Fernando Mendoza could go one or two.

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Speaker 6: If the Titans get one, they're not taking it, and

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Speaker 6: then I don't think there's a big trade up.

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Speaker 1: So it's a browns Land tool there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: huge trade up for Fernando Mendoza for massive three ones,

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Speaker 1: three one. I'm not joking.

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Speaker 6: If the Jets do that, I will renounce on this show.

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Speaker 6: My Jets fandom. Thirty years as a Jets fan, it's over.

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Speaker 6: I'm not trading up three ones. That's insanity.

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Speaker 1: Stop. Okay, three, I didn't say it, didn't get stuff back?

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Speaker 1: Couple five, round, fifth round. I love those Jmack with

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was on earlier and everybody knows how aspirational

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Speaker 1: he's been. But he started talking about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: things that he looks for in quarterbacks and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it's just the drive, the want to be great.

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Speaker 4: If you want to be successful in the NFL, you

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Speaker 4: better have the drive and determination every day of your life,

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Speaker 4: in season and off season, to try to go out

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Speaker 4: and be the best in the world. You've got to

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Speaker 4: be brushing your teeth in the morning, thinking about your

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Speaker 4: throwing mechanics, thinking about the calls your coach is going

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Speaker 4: to make on third down, the anticipation you need to

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Speaker 4: throw in a particular game.

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Speaker 3: This has to be your life.

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Speaker 4: It has to be so important that you're thinking about

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Speaker 4: it all day.

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Speaker 3: Every day, certainly during the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's very true about

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Speaker 1: almost everything, is that you know, there's one or two

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Speaker 1: things are true. You have work. You have to outwork

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Speaker 1: people to move up the chain faster, and you also

833
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: have to take some big swings in your life or

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Speaker 1: you're going to be in the middle of the pack.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, I mean Tom took a big

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Speaker 1: swing going to Tampa. And you say, well, what kind

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Speaker 1: of big swing it was. When he was in New England,

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Speaker 1: the regular commentary was, well, Belichick's about seventy thirty. Belichick

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Speaker 1: won eleven games with Matt Cassel. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: way Tom changed the entire narrative. He goes to Tampa,

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Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl, New England circles the dream. That

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00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: was a risk. Not a lot of people predicted Tom's

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Speaker 1: going to the wacky Buccaneers. That's not what people thought.

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Speaker 1: When that came out, people went WHOA. Then they looked

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Speaker 1: at it and went, Bruce arians good receivers, He's going

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Speaker 1: to bring Gronk down. But it is you got to

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Speaker 1: take swings That's why I don't beat up people too much.

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Speaker 1: When they take swings and miss, you got to take them,

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Speaker 1: and the hit rate. The bigger the swing, the uglier

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Speaker 1: the miss, and the more often you miss. First things

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Speaker 1: first is coming up now,