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Speaker 4: And so it begins. Finally, President Trump, that's what we're

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Speaker 5: That's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 8: He's very young, and he just pulled off something's very

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Speaker 4: So I'll get in a second article up on Political

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Speaker 4: Last night Lee wamsgan monumental win. She had three and

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Speaker 4: in Texas, I got to tell you, Chip, there's a

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Speaker 13: We've got to start getting serious about this in this election.

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Speaker 7: That's what happened in Virginia. You're dead right.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's three and a half years we got to get.

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Speaker 4: Last night, you know Wes Moore wants to be vice president.

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Speaker 4: This fight over the redistioning wars now are going to

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Speaker 4: you're going to be Texas ag, would you tell Abbot

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Speaker 13: Sir, Yeah, we need to lean into more seats, not

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Speaker 7: So they're playing hardball.

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Speaker 13: They're at war with us, and we're not, you know,

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Speaker 13: But we should be limiting the flow of people into

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Speaker 13: We should be putting and codifying what President Trump is

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Speaker 7: President Trump wants to lead.

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Speaker 13: Dallas in particular Texas is the epicenter of what they're

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Speaker 13: trying to do for the Islamification of not just Texas,

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Speaker 13: not just America, but the Western hemisphere. They're planning the

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Speaker 13: seeds here and we've got to rip those seeds up

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Speaker 13: and get them out of Texas.

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Speaker 4: Before I lose you. By the way, one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood should be designated terrorist organization today, real quickly.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be tons of pressure from Rhino senators for

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Speaker 4: President Trump put it in his ear. Oh, it's all

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Speaker 4: about the shutdown. That Democrats still want to put a

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Speaker 4: tradion dollars in to financing illegal alien healthcare. The reason

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Speaker 4: he lost to New York City last night. Is forty

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Speaker 4: or fifty years of bad immigration policy, of visa scams,

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Speaker 4: all of it. Where do you stand on the shutdown

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Speaker 4: right now?

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Speaker 7: Chip?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, one hundred percent standing. The President has been doing

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Speaker 13: the right thing. We've got to hold the line, but

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Speaker 13: we need to hold the line with a more forceful message.

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Speaker 13: Democrats are the ones that are causing this. They want

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Speaker 13: to take this into Thanksgiving. Make them own it. But

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Speaker 13: we've got to be on offense. Don't just sit here

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Speaker 13: quietly being on defense. Let's go back to Washington. Let's

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Speaker 13: get up there. Let's pass righteous bills. Let's send them

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Speaker 13: over to the Senate. Let's demand that they take action

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Speaker 13: on those righteous bills. Let's pass HR two from the

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Speaker 13: last converge security the border. Let's pass bills that limit

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Speaker 13: Sharia law coming into our country. Let's pass the same

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Speaker 13: again and tell them that we shouldn't have just citizens

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Speaker 13: voting in American elections.

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Speaker 7: Let's pass legislation banning stock.

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Speaker 13: Trading for members of Congress who are riching themselves while

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Speaker 13: they're you know, on committees and self trading. Let's do

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Speaker 13: those things and demonstrate we've got an agenda. And let's

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Speaker 13: get aggressive on healthcare, go after the corporate cronyism, go

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Speaker 13: after the PBMs, demonstrate that we're with the hardworking Americans

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Speaker 13: and not the ruling class.

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Speaker 7: If we do that, we win.

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Speaker 13: If we sit back on defense and if we side

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Speaker 13: with the moderates, and if we undermine President Trump, then

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Speaker 13: it will be a bloodbath in the midterms, and that

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Speaker 13: will do nothing to advance the agenda for a free country.

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Speaker 7: So we've got to get off the picture. That's my view.

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Speaker 4: We'll get twenty seconds social media and your website for

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Speaker 4: your campaign where they go, Yeah, Troy dot.

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Speaker 13: Com and chip ROYTX, chiproy TX on x slash Twitter.

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Speaker 13: Thanks Steve got Blasha.

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Speaker 7: Let's keep at it, Chip.

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Speaker 4: The Commonwealth of Virginia has fallen absolutely repulsive next in the.

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Speaker 7: World as.

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Speaker 18: The vehicle is in position of taxes on Americans. And

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Speaker 18: that has always been the core power of Congress. So

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Speaker 18: to have the president's foreign affairs power at Trump that

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Speaker 18: that basic power for.

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Speaker 5: Congress seems to me to kind of at least.

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Speaker 18: Neutralize between the two powers, the executive power and the

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Speaker 18: legislative power.

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Speaker 5: Let me say two things response that. First, the notion

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Speaker 5: that these are the taxes.

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Speaker 17: Are all born by Americans that are not born by

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Speaker 17: foreign foreign producers.

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Speaker 5: Who are whose goods are imported.

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Speaker 17: Is empirically that's not there's no basis for that in

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Speaker 17: the record.

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Speaker 5: It's actually a mix. Who pays the tariffs.

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Speaker 18: If a tariff is imposed on the automobiles, who pays them?

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Speaker 17: There's a Typically there'd be a regardless who the importer

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Speaker 17: of record is, there'd be a contract that would go

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Speaker 17: along the sort of line of transfer that would allocate

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Speaker 17: the tariff, and there'd be different Sometimes that foreign the

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Speaker 17: foreign producer would pay them. Sometimes the import would bear

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Speaker 17: the cost. The import could be an American, could be

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Speaker 17: a foreign company. A lot of times it's a wholly

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Speaker 17: owned American subsidiary of a foreign corporation, so it gets allocated.

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Speaker 17: The peer blesson has ranged from like thirty percent to

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Speaker 17: eighty percent of like how much is born by I mean, it's.

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Speaker 18: Been suggested that the tariffs are responsible for significant reduction

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Speaker 18: in our deficit. I would say that's raising revenue domestically.

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Speaker 17: There certainly is an incidental and collateral effect to the

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Speaker 17: tariffs that they do raise revenue, but it's very important

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Speaker 17: that they are regulatory tariffs, not revenue, raising tariffs and

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Speaker 17: the way you can see this, I think if you

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Speaker 17: look at this policy, this policy is by far the

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Speaker 17: most effective if nobody.

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Speaker 5: Ever pays the tariffs.

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Speaker 17: And I say two policies, right, So if you look

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Speaker 17: at the trade deficit emergency, if nobody ever pays the

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Speaker 17: tariffs and instead Americans direct their consumption towards American producers

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Speaker 17: and stimulate the rebuilding of our hollowed out manufacturing base,

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Speaker 17: then the policy is by far the most effective.

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Speaker 14: So a tariff rail tariff that why not do what

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Speaker 14: the statute permits, bar importation of products altogether? That would

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Speaker 14: be the most effective way to do it. Well, the

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Speaker 14: question you follow the statue. The statute says the president

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Speaker 14: can do that. What it doesn't say is the president

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Speaker 14: can raise revenue.

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Speaker 17: What it says he can regulate importation and go years

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Speaker 17: the way you are it does.

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Speaker 2: They're all seeing it.

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Speaker 14: Subjecting some countries and not others to importation bins. There's

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Speaker 14: a lot of verbs, but none of them include generating

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Speaker 14: revenue as a side effect or directly.

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Speaker 17: Let me address that verb point if I may, because

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Speaker 17: think about the canonical example a statue that refers to

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Speaker 17: a list of swords, knives, daggers, dirks, and pikes.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 17: You look at those that list of things and you say, aha,

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Speaker 17: those are all weapons. Therefore a pike is a spear,

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Speaker 17: not not a fish in that particular context. Now look

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Speaker 17: at this list of verbs, block, prohibit, capel, direct, and

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Speaker 17: so forth. You don't look at that naturally as an

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Speaker 17: ordinary reader, and oh, look, we're all not revenue raising.

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Speaker 5: What you say is they're all very.

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Speaker 16: Broad powerful, you know, general actions?

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Speaker 15: Are these general the verbs that are in the statute

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Speaker 15: are actually doing something. I mean, they're in the statute

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Speaker 15: for a reason. And as I understand it, Congress actually

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Speaker 15: explained to us in its Senate Report and House Report

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Speaker 15: when it enacted the nineteen forty one Amendments to TWEA

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Speaker 15: what it was doing. It said that what we are

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Speaker 15: doing is authorizing the president the Senate Report quote, to

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Speaker 15: control or freeze property transactions where a foreign interest is involved.

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Speaker 15: There's similar language about controlling, freezing, control in.

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Speaker 16: The House Report. So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 15: Generally, you can look at these words and you can

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Speaker 15: imagine that they mean certain things. But here we have

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Speaker 15: evidence that Congress was actually trying to do a particular thing.

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Speaker 15: With respect to the authority that it was presenting to

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Speaker 15: the president, and that thing was not raising revenue.

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Speaker 17: I think that the powers that Congress was conferring on

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Speaker 17: the president are best understood through the plain text of

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Speaker 17: the statutes, which.

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Speaker 15: Includes regulating I know, but some of us care about

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Speaker 15: the legislative history, and so the plan text of the

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Speaker 15: statute has certain verbs in it. It also has regulate commerce,

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Speaker 15: as you say, And when I look at the legislative history,

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Speaker 15: it appears as though Congress was trying to give the

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Speaker 15: president the authority to quote control or freeze property transactions

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Speaker 15: where a foreign interest is involved. And in the TWIA context,

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Speaker 15: that makes perfect sense because we're talking about a wartime dynamic,

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Speaker 15: and what is happening is the president needs the authority

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Speaker 15: to prevent trading with the enemy in the midst of

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Speaker 15: a war, and.

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Speaker 16: That seems to be the focus of this statute.

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Speaker 15: So I guess I'm concerned about just sort of taking

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Speaker 15: a particular word here and there and saying that the

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Speaker 15: general view of it might include raising revenue, when in fact,

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Speaker 15: it looks as though the aim of this was really

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Speaker 15: to give the president a certain kind.

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Speaker 16: Of authority to freeze the assets of the enemy.

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Speaker 17: And let me say two things in a response that First,

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Speaker 17: as the notion that this is a revenue raising tactic

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Speaker 17: or power, it is not. We are asserting it regulatory power.

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Speaker 17: It's a delegation the power to regulate foreign commerce. The

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Speaker 17: way to control imports traditionally has been to tariff them.

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Speaker 5: They say, well, you can post quotas well.

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Speaker 17: Quotas are essentially economically, you know, economically equivalent to tariffs.

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Speaker 17: So the question is why would you be able to

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Speaker 17: quota underregulate but not tariff under regulate when the tariffs

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Speaker 17: are themselves regulatory.

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Speaker 5: And let me turn back to the question I was

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Speaker 5: giving the response I was good the answer.

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Speaker 15: Would the answer be that in other places where Congress

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Speaker 15: wants that particular form of regulation to be used, they say,

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Speaker 15: impose duties, they say con tax, mister president, here they

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Speaker 15: don't say that.

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Speaker 17: I'd say two things in response that that's the very

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Speaker 17: argument that this court rejected in Algonquin.

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Speaker 5: That the fact that these other specific status say about

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Speaker 5: the way you have.

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Speaker 15: To if we with you that Algonquin is a similar context,

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Speaker 15: do you have another statute or another circumstance.

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Speaker 5: And again, not decide I'm not going again.

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Speaker 17: But obviously we discussed the phrase adjust imports and they said,

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Speaker 17: now the natural way to do that is to tariff them.

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Speaker 5: And it specifically said it makes no.

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Speaker 17: Sense at all to authorize quotas, which was conceded that

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Speaker 17: that sent you did authorize, but not tariffs because those

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Speaker 17: are equivalent.

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Speaker 6: Is just by any means necessary, which kind of beefs

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Speaker 6: up the adjust And also, and this is actually I

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Speaker 6: just don't know the answer to this question. So maybe

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Speaker 6: you can help, and maybe the other side can help

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Speaker 6: as well. Algonquin was very careful to always call it

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Speaker 6: a license and a licensing fee. And in the oral

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Speaker 6: argument that came up to the distinction between a tariff

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Speaker 6: and a licensing fee. And I can understand how in

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Speaker 6: some context it would be very difficult. You would press

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Speaker 6: on it and you would say, well, if this license

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Speaker 6: fee is raising revenue, then it actually functions as a tariff.

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Speaker 6: But what is the significance of that Because an AIPA

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Speaker 6: it also says it refers a particularly to licenses. It

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Speaker 6: says you can license and license would be a way

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Speaker 6: of giving permission. That's actually the lat The language also

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Speaker 6: used in the Civil War one and.

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Speaker 5: It handles it against exactly. Yes, it does.

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Speaker 16: It was a license.

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Speaker 6: It was a license fee, and that's a way to

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Speaker 6: grant permission that you wouldn't otherwise have to trade and

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Speaker 6: import and let it through. So tell me what the

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Speaker 6: distinction is between licenses and fees, and if it matters,

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Speaker 6: it's hard for.

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Speaker 17: Me to see one, because what President Lincoln said is, Okay,

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Speaker 17: we're going to allow imports from hostle foreign powers, basically

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Speaker 17: rebellious Confederate states of cotton subject to a license.

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Speaker 5: But you got to pay four cents a pound and

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Speaker 5: cotton when you do it.

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Speaker 17: That's the condition that is so nearly equivalent to a

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Speaker 17: tear if that says, you can bring these goods to

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Speaker 17: our country.

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Speaker 5: But you got to pay, you know, advilorum assessment on it.

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Speaker 17: And so, and of course they have in their briefs

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Speaker 17: concede that quotas apply, that licensing may apply. There is

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Speaker 17: the language in the beginning of seventeen O one that

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Speaker 17: talks about instruments, you know, or other methods instrument's license.

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Speaker 6: But if that was drew, why couldn't you just call

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Speaker 6: this a license? And it's also true that in the

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Speaker 6: cotton example, the court said the exaction itself was not

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Speaker 6: properly a tax, but a bonus required as a conditioned

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Speaker 6: precedent for engaging in the trade. So it seems like

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Speaker 6: it was a little squirrely about how it was proceeding.

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Speaker 6: And if there really is no distinction, why couldn't you

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Speaker 6: just call it a license?

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Speaker 14: Here?

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Speaker 17: Very briefly, the other two cases, you know, the Pole

666
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Speaker 17: case and then the president came the case talk about duties.

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Speaker 5: So I see it equivalents there, mister guess.

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Speaker 18: Thank you counsel, Justice Thomas.

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Speaker 19: Any further, the other side is going to argue, make

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Speaker 19: it an argue on delegation, I believe. Would you anticipate

671
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Speaker 19: that and give us your understanding of the delegation argument?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Justice Thomas, I'd say a couple of things in

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Speaker 5: response to that.

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Speaker 17: First of all, this Court has stated that the non

675
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Speaker 17: delegation document does not apply with anything like the same

676
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Speaker 17: force as it does in the domestic contact in the

677
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Speaker 17: foreign context, and that again to cite James and Moore.

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Speaker 5: Again, James and Moore.

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Speaker 17: Cites Youngstown and Youngstown and footnote two of Justice Jack's opinion.

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Speaker 17: He goes into detail about this. He addresses Curtis right.

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Speaker 17: He says there's a lot of broad dicta in curtis right.

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Speaker 17: But the holding of Curtis right, the Ratzeo dissidentity is

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Speaker 17: that not the domestic non delegation doctrine does not apply

684
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Speaker 17: with the same force in the foreign context.

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Speaker 5: And then and he uses that phrase does not apply.

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Speaker 17: He says, the strict limitations on delegation that apply, you know,

687
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Speaker 17: in the internal context, do not apply in the external context.

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Speaker 5: And so we rely on that line of cases and

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Speaker 5: further reasons I talked about earlier.

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Speaker 17: We're talking about a situation where the president has his

691
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Speaker 17: own inherent authority to address foreign a rising emergencies, and

692
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Speaker 17: Congress is conferring tools on him that expand.

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Speaker 5: His ability his capacity to do so. We are in

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Speaker 5: the area of Youngstown's own one.

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Speaker 19: A few times you have alluded to the history as

696
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Speaker 19: being important and interpreting the statute, and also that this

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Speaker 19: language comes from the trading with the enemies and that

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Speaker 19: has its own pedigree. Could you just sketch out this

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Speaker 19: direct line that you were alluding to as a basis

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Speaker 19: for interpreting the current emergency statute as you would like

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Speaker 19: it interpret.

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Speaker 17: Yes, Justice Thomas, And turning back to the response I

703
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Speaker 17: was given a justice spirit earlier. There is I think

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Speaker 17: it's very well the set out and presser bombs eize

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Speaker 17: a meekas brief. There is this history of presidents using

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 17: a tariffing power or a tariff equivalent power very very

707
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Speaker 17: close to tariffing power in wartime to tariff trading with enemies,

708
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Speaker 17: and that when the Trading with the Enemy Act was

709
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Speaker 17: enacted in nineteen seventeen, it was deliberately evoking that. And

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Speaker 17: when it brings in the power to regulate importation, it's

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Speaker 17: essentially codifying for the inherent power that president is already

712
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 17: recognized to have. And then in nineteen thirty three, when

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Speaker 17: that power is expanded to an area where he wouldn't

714
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Speaker 17: inherently have it the peacetime context, that codification, the meaning

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Speaker 17: of that remains the same. The regulate importation language that's

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Speaker 17: brought in from TWEA and then ultimately.

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00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: To AIPA in nineteen seventy seven is.

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Speaker 17: Carrying with it that connotation, and that's reinforced by all

719
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Speaker 17: the cases we said in our brief where there's been

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Speaker 17: extremely broad delegations of the power to tariffs specifically and

721
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 17: the power to regulate foreign commerce more generally going back

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Speaker 17: to the time of the Fountain, which ties to your

723
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 17: question about non delegation.

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Speaker 20: Justice alito, the Court of the CCPA said several said

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Speaker 20: things in Yoshida that are helpful to your position, but

726
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Speaker 20: it also said some other things. It said that future

727
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Speaker 20: search churches quote must of course.

728
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Speaker 21: Comply with Section one twenty two of the Trade Act

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Speaker 21: of nineteen seventy four, and it said that the Trading

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Speaker 21: with the Enemy Act did not authorize the President to

731
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Speaker 21: quote fix rates of duty at will without regard to

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Speaker 21: statutory rates prescribed by Congress.

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Speaker 5: So do you.

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Speaker 21: Think that Congress to the extent Congress has add that

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Speaker 21: decision in mind and relied on it. Do you think

736
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Speaker 21: it also relied on those statements in the opinion.

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Speaker 17: Not in the same way, because those statements are read

738
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Speaker 17: into other provisions of TWIA that Congress did not enact

739
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 17: in ANEPA. They may still be there in Twiya, but

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Speaker 17: those are limitations that it wouldn't make sense to do.

741
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Speaker 17: And I think the significance of you sheet is at

742
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 17: a higher level. Keep in mind that their principal position

743
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 17: is no tariffs at all. Regular importation just doesn't carry

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Speaker 17: a connotation of the power to tariff, and we say

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Speaker 17: we've got historical sources going back to Gibbons against Ogden

746
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 17: that say the opposite. But more fundamentally, everyone knew that

747
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 17: at the time I was enacted, that regular importation had

748
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Speaker 17: just very visibly and very prominently been upheld to include

749
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Speaker 17: a sweeping global terranf.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, this is so mereric.

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Speaker 14: I'd like to go back to Justice Barrett's question on

752
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Speaker 14: the word license is used in APA. It's not used

753
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Speaker 14: as a verb. It's used as a noun by the

754
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Speaker 14: president may, under such regulations as he may prescribe by

755
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Speaker 14: means of instructions, licensed or otherwise, then do what the

756
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Speaker 14: verbs permit him to do. By license, he can nullify, void,

757
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Speaker 14: prevent or prohibit any acquisition, et cetera. So license is

758
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Speaker 14: not being used as a verb that through licensing he

759
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Speaker 14: can raise revenue. He can only use licenses to accomplish

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Speaker 14: the verbs. So I don't understand how we can treat

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Speaker 14: licensing as equivalent to revenue raising it as used in AEPA.

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Speaker 14: The license is only to accomplish what B permits.

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Speaker 17: In Hamilton against Dylan licenses. Once you have the license,

764
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Speaker 17: then you had to.

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Speaker 5: Pay the fees.

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Speaker 14: But that's still those points I'm making, which is that

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Speaker 14: the only use of license here is a noun. You

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Speaker 14: can license to accomplish the powers that be gives the president.

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Speaker 5: Let me be clear, we rely in the phrase of

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Speaker 5: regular importation. We're not saying that exactly.

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Speaker 14: We're not relying on licenses for that reason.

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Speaker 5: No, I only cite that language. I talked your language about,

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Speaker 5: you know, instrument's licenses that your other one on another

774
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Speaker 5: layer of bread.

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Speaker 14: In this PET Council, would you listen to my question.

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Speaker 14: You're not relying on license for the reason I just said,

777
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Speaker 14: because it is a noun, not the verb. You're relying

778
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Speaker 14: on regulate, correct.

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Speaker 5: Yes, regulate importation.

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Speaker 14: And despite the fact that no other president in the

781
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Speaker 14: history of an EPA has ever used, has ever imported,

782
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Speaker 14: used tariffs as a power.

783
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Speaker 5: Under an ephah, Well, President.

784
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Speaker 14: Nixon is one under a predecessor, and we have all

785
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Speaker 14: the limitations of that, all right. Number two, whenever Congress

786
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Speaker 14: intends to permit texting and regulate, it uses the word

787
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 14: tax and regulate in every other statute.

788
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Speaker 5: Correct.

789
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Speaker 17: I don't can see that. I mean two very visible

790
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 17: examples again are TWA. In Section one twenty two. We're

791
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Speaker 17: back to the question here. Okay, thank you, Gils just

792
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Speaker 17: so a mirror.

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Speaker 22: No, she's just a sort of mirror.

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Speaker 16: She just finished Justice Cagan, General.

795
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Speaker 2: Are they're friends.

796
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Speaker 22: I want to take you back to Justice Thomas's question

797
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Speaker 22: about non delegation, and if I understood your answer correctly,

798
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 22: it was really similar to the answer that you started

799
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 22: off with when you talk with Justice Thomas about the

800
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 22: Major Questions doctrine, which is sort of everything's different because

801
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 22: the president has independent constitutional.

802
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: Powers in this area.

803
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Speaker 22: And so that if one does not think that with

804
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Speaker 22: respect to tariff's, if one thinks that a tariff is

805
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 22: a taxing power, is a regulation of foreign commerce that

806
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 22: is really delegated by the Constitution to Congress, that argument

807
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 22: does not sound so well. And in fact, when you

808
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 22: look at JW. Hampton, which gives rise to the non

809
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 22: delegation tests that we usually use.

810
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Speaker 16: JW.

811
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Speaker 22: Hampton is a tariff's case, and the court did not say, oh,

812
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 22: we need some special new principle here, some stricter rule

813
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 22: because we're dealing with tariffs in which presidents are directly

814
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 22: concerned as a matter of foreign relations. It enunciated the

815
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 22: test we use for all non delegations so how does

816
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 22: that fit with your theory?

817
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 17: Eight years later, in Curtis Right, the Court held the

818
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 17: non delegation doctrine for domestic affairs does not apply with

819
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 17: the same forces.

820
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 22: Doesn't but not with respect to tariffs, not with respect

821
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Speaker 22: to quintessential taxing powers which are given by the Constitution

822
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 22: to Congress.

823
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 17: I think Justice of his Court have recognized in their

824
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 17: opinions that one of the reasons that the non delegation doctrine,

825
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 17: you know, that intelligible principal test has impacked as much

826
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 17: punch as just as Cavili side one of his opinions,

827
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 17: as it might otherwise have done, is it did arise

828
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 17: in the forid affairs context, because there the Court has

829
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 17: a storically been very very comfortable with very broad delegations.

830
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 17: Chicago and Southern Airlines another case of the nineteen thirty

831
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 17: shortly after JW.

832
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Speaker 5: Hampton talked about.

833
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Speaker 17: Being very large delegations of the foreign commerce power being

834
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 17: very effective. And of course this goes back to the

835
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 17: very dawn of the Republic. In seventeen ninety, for example,

836
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 17: Congress conferred on President Washington basically the entire Indian commerce

837
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 17: power is that go, you know, get licenses, right to

838
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 17: do commerce with the Indians, and there'll be subject to

839
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 17: whatever rules and regulations President Washington can make. So I

840
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 17: do think there's a profound consistency between the announcement of

841
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Speaker 17: the intelligible principal test in JW.

842
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Speaker 5: Hampton and then.

843
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Speaker 17: The subsequent recognition by this court in Curtis Right that

844
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 17: the non delegation doctum doesn't.

845
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Speaker 5: Apply the same force in this content.

846
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Speaker 22: In consumers' research. Just last year, we had a tax

847
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Speaker 22: before us, and the question was was this delegation issue?

848
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 22: There was, of course a much smaller tax which dealt

849
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 22: with many fewer tax payers. Notwithstanding that, we said, if

850
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 22: there's no ceiling on this tax. We sort of assumed

851
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 22: that if there were no ceiling on this tax, it

852
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 22: would raise a delegation problem. And the most of the

853
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 22: opinion was given over to showing that there in fact

854
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 22: was a ceiling on the tax, not a quantitative one,

855
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 22: but a qualitative one. But how does your argument fit

856
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 22: with the idea that attacks with no ceiling a tax

857
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 22: that can be anything that here the president once there

858
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 22: in agency once would raise a pretty deep delegation problem.

859
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Speaker 17: First of all, I can't say enough it is a

860
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 17: regulatory tariff not a tax, and that I think ties

861
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 17: to my response to that, which is that this is

862
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 17: a totally different context. This is AIPA, a statue that

863
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 17: Congress carefully crafted to grant the president admittedly broad powers

864
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Speaker 17: to address foreign rising emergencies. It's outward facing to foreign affairs,

865
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 17: where there's the broadest level of deference to.

866
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Speaker 5: The political branches. This court is recognized.

867
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Speaker 17: In many cases it imposed not a floor or limit

868
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Speaker 17: on the amount of a tariff that could be imposed

869
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 17: very natally, because, for example, is this court said, in

870
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Speaker 17: loving quoting you know, Alexander Hamilton in the Federals Number

871
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Speaker 17: twenty three, it's impossible to foresee either what exigencies may

872
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 17: arise or what tools may be needed to address those edges,

873
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 17: the means that may be required to address those agencies. Instead,

874
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 17: Congress grant very broad powers, but they're confined to a

875
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 17: particular domain. This domain is any property in which any

876
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 17: foreign government or any national thereof has any interests. So

877
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 17: the sort of discipline if one were to apply we

878
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 17: say you shouldn't, but if you would apply the non

879
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 17: delegation doctrine, the domestic facing non delegation doctor in this context,

880
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 17: there's a significant limitation there.

881
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Speaker 16: Yeah, you have.

882
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Speaker 22: My last question really does have to do with that point,

883
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Speaker 22: which is how or weather this is confined, because if

884
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Speaker 22: you look at Title nineteen, which is loaded with tariffs

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Speaker 22: and duties of various kinds, all of them have real

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Speaker 22: constraints on them. They are you know, you can't go over.

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Speaker 4: X percent one of the we'll make sure this all

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Speaker 4: gets played. One of the most important arguments in Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: You see how tough it is. That's the Solicitor General

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Speaker 4: of the United States, John Sower, that did so much

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Speaker 4: great work for President Trump. A solicitor general, you've got

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Speaker 4: to be ready normally, walk in there, you've got your

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Speaker 4: case or brief. You're going to take your I don't

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Speaker 4: know ten or fifteen minutes to present it.

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Speaker 7: Boom.

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Speaker 4: Right at the start, they're up in your face with

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Speaker 4: these questions, and you see how complicated you are, and

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Speaker 4: you don't have time to look it up.

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Speaker 7: You got to know it.

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Speaker 4: That's the amazing thing about these arguments right there. And

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court so far has gone has I don't

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Speaker 4: say gone along, but they've been very adamant that they're

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Speaker 4: not the Warren Court, that they're not a activist court.

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Speaker 4: They have come back on these. Remember the Article two

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Speaker 4: powers of the president and the quite frankly the maximust

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Speaker 4: strategy of those Article two powers as chief executive officer,

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Speaker 4: as commander in chief, and as a chief magistrate and

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Speaker 4: chief law enforcement officer. Here it's about essentially President Trump's

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Speaker 4: trade and tariff policies and the underlying laws that he

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Speaker 4: used to to stitch that together and right there getting

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Speaker 4: getting completely getting hammered as he should. These are. This

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Speaker 4: is a very very important argument. It's the basis for

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Speaker 4: redoing the commercial relationships in the world and restoring America

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Speaker 4: as a as a manufacturing superpower, a manufacturing superpower. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Senator Hawley is running a few minutes late. He's gonna

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Speaker 4: come at the top of the hour. We got John Solomon,

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Speaker 4: got big breaking news in the investigations, plus more of

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Speaker 4: the politics. Let me just go over. There's an article

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Speaker 4: in Politico now, an interview Grace in mo. If you

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Speaker 4: then you know, get it past the paywall at Politico.

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Speaker 4: It's time to double and triple down. President Trump is

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Speaker 4: still the vehicle forget to low propensity voters. Why do

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Speaker 4: you understand he's trying to do something with the country.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: Look, he's been you know, had a huge emphasis on

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Speaker 4: the international side because we are in the beginning stages

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Speaker 4: of the Third World War and he's tried to put

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Speaker 4: that to bed. Also hemispheric defense, and like I said,

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with all of this. I particularly think

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Speaker 4: the Middle East has been way overplayed. And now it's

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Speaker 4: time the Middle East is a side show and Israel's

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Speaker 4: a side show to a side show. We got to

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Speaker 4: get focused and particularly focused here American for America first

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Speaker 4: and American citizens first. But when you've made a bet,

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Speaker 4: You've got to execute on it. And right now that's

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Speaker 4: the key part of it's a supply side tax cut.

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Speaker 4: Then we've got to make sure that all these investments

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Speaker 4: designates somewhere on the cabinet to do it. President Trump's

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Speaker 4: too busy, he can't do everything. He's go flying down

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Speaker 4: today for a day trip down to Florida to talk

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Speaker 4: to a business Council about what about investment in the

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Speaker 4: United States of America. That's what he should be doing.

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Speaker 4: The arrested guys in the cabinet, Best and Latinik, all

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Speaker 4: another reconciliation. How about this for the reconciliation, Let's now

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Speaker 4: done the first time to start to close this budget

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