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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in or Welcome in to What's Right, Episode

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<v Speaker 2>one fifty three. If I you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever messed up the intro of this podcast, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gus I need to do it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, little frazzled, Little rattled, fifty to one bet down

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<v Speaker 2>the tubes again once again. Get to the final four

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<v Speaker 2>with a fifty to one wager. Can't make it across

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<v Speaker 2>the finish line. I watched Lebron have arguably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the three greatest playoff halves of his career, only to

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<v Speaker 2>have it squandered in minutes to start the second half,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the game end and a loss, the season

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<v Speaker 2>end in a sweep, and if that's not enough, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go to sleep. I turn everything off, don't read

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<v Speaker 2>anything on social.

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<v Speaker 3>Media, and cry yourself to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not There was no there were no tears, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I gotta it's gonna be a long

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<v Speaker 2>day for me tomorrow, meaning today I got this show,

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<v Speaker 2>I have the Herd, I have my own TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that on a day after my pick to

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<v Speaker 2>win the time Idol gets swept in the conference finals

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<v Speaker 2>against a team and a player that I have been

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<v Speaker 2>Let's call it a somewhat vocal skeptic of like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna consume any of the postgame stuffle. Deal with

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<v Speaker 2>it in the morning. Wake up this morning, walk your

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<v Speaker 2>little sister to the bus stop, open up the old phone,

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<v Speaker 2>say okay, gotta start preparing for the show. And people

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about Lebron James retiring, retiring.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when the tears came. There were no tears, but

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<v Speaker 3>you are loud.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a sense of mortality, a sense of wistfulness.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James famously has been in the league. It's played

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA for over half its life, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same age as me, which means same for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Over half my life, I've watched this guy play basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never once talked about retirement. And now the door

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<v Speaker 2>has been cracked open, So we will get to that momentarily.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be lashing out today one person in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>He called me hysterical this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, I did not call you hysterical this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you guess what happened happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's because I can't trust your professionalism to even

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened in the NBA life.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't say that because you.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to say, is he a prom No?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to say my entire prom weekend, I

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<v Speaker 3>was checking scores and everything, something I never think i'd

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<v Speaker 3>be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly the entire prom weekend, which involved multiple

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<v Speaker 2>post prom parties. Well, you were multiple houses in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hamptons with your bougie friends and their bougie be towels.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not listening there. You think I'm coming for

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<v Speaker 2>you or for Victor who can't handle the microphone levels,

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<v Speaker 2>Wait till I get to producer Daniel and his future

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<v Speaker 2>with this with this show. Wow, we'll get to that later.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in for the pod listeners. Episode one Free the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers lost, Lebron's contemplating retiring. Here's what missed the cut

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<v Speaker 2>for today's show. Tom Brady comes Raiders Minority owner don't

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<v Speaker 2>care brooks Koepka win says it validates live golfers. I

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<v Speaker 2>would care about that, and my little gambling consortium that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wait a moment, please, young lady in the

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<v Speaker 2>little gambling consortium that I'm in. I tried to bet

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<v Speaker 2>brooks Koepka on Saturday morning to win the tournament, and

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<v Speaker 2>no one would take my bet, and then I had

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<v Speaker 2>to watch him run away with the tournament. That was frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>And Demon's evidently feuding with his new snake. I told

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<v Speaker 2>him to wait to get a snake. I told him

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<v Speaker 2>to wait. He didn't listen, and now evidently he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with it. But none of that is where

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<v Speaker 2>we're starting. DOORA, go right ahead. Where are we starting?

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<v Speaker 3>So? Oh yeah, so we're starting with, of course, your boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, Lebron. Despite Lebron dropping forty ten and nine,

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<v Speaker 3>the Nuggets were just too much for the Lakers, as

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<v Speaker 3>they completed the sweep. However, the story is actually about

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<v Speaker 3>what happened after the game, not during, as Lebron, for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time ever, seems to be contemplating retirement.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can read you the quote that Lebron said

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<v Speaker 2>at the podium, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So he had he said just for me personally, going

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<v Speaker 3>forward with the game of basketball. I got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Dave mcminnimmon and fellow Syracuse grad great journalists

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<v Speaker 2>for ESPN followed up with him. He was like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you actually talking about your futureies? And he confirmed yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's contemplating retirement. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have three questions for you. Yeah, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm fine?

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<v Speaker 3>And are you actually okay? Is my second question?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm fo okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And are you buying that Lebron could actually retired? And

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<v Speaker 3>if so, are you retiring?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I won't be retiring. Am I buying that Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>could actually retire? Yeah? I think I think it's on

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<v Speaker 2>the board. I don't. I said on TV yesterday that

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<v Speaker 2>just like it was on the board that the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>could be the first team ever to come back from

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<v Speaker 2>three to zero down, it was on the board. That

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<v Speaker 2>last night would be Lebron's final playoff game of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on the board, and I will tell you Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>played as if he thought it might be his final

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<v Speaker 2>time playing. He played the entire game except for the

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<v Speaker 2>final four seconds of the first half. He came out

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<v Speaker 2>guns blazing, trying to give the Lakers a big enough

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<v Speaker 2>cushion that potent I would imagine. The plan was, shoot

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<v Speaker 2>all your bullets in the first half, build a big lead.

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<v Speaker 2>See if the Nuggets with a three to zero lead

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<v Speaker 2>on the road, fold up shop, and then you can

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<v Speaker 2>get some actual rest in the second half, and then

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<v Speaker 2>put some pressure on them in Game five thirty one,

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half, eleven of thirteen shooting his first

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<v Speaker 2>half alone was the greatest old guy playoff game ever,

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<v Speaker 2>and far and away the greatest year eighteen, nineteen or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty playoff game ever. Just the first half. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers immediately blew the lead. And we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the game and the Nuggets side of

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<v Speaker 2>it in a bit. And then after the game, Lebron's

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<v Speaker 2>questioning his basketball mortality. Now I know everyone's saying something

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<v Speaker 2>of a similar thing. So Lebron's gonna talk about and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about and talk about how he wants to play

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<v Speaker 2>with Bronni, and then when he's potentially just two seasons

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<v Speaker 2>away from being able to do that, that's when he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna walk away. Well, Lebron softened that play with Bronni's

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<v Speaker 2>stance a few months ago when he said, just because

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<v Speaker 2>that's my dream or my ambition doesn't mean it's his.

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<v Speaker 2>And if Bronni doesn't think he's one and done, that

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<v Speaker 2>then extends the timeline. If Bronni doesn't necessarily want to

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<v Speaker 2>play with his dad, that extends the timeline. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of There are factors where maybe Bronni does

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<v Speaker 2>think he's one and done but has made it clear

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to be on a team with his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lebron might feel uncomfortable competing against him they're on

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<v Speaker 2>different teams. What do you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's a thing, though, that you have to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no one's the history of basketball's ever had to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not with your child, but right other family members.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's stall too, and but we've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>We we we saw King Griffy Junior and King Griffy's

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<v Speaker 2>senior play together. And baseball is also different because unless

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<v Speaker 2>one was a pitcher and one was a hitter, which

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't, you're not in direct conflict. We've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>a father and son competing against each other at that level,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there is so I don't know. I do

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<v Speaker 2>know that through the first fifteen years of his career,

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron was the most durable athlete in NBA history, he

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<v Speaker 2>and Karl Malone. And then in year sixteen he tores groin.

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<v Speaker 2>In year eighteen he suffered he ripped up a ten

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<v Speaker 2>in his ankle. In year nineteen, I forget even what

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<v Speaker 2>the injury was last year, and this year he ripped

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<v Speaker 2>up at tend in his foot. So the injuries are

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<v Speaker 2>starting to pile up, which is what happens with older ambulance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well okay, well that's just what happens with older athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>And so is it on the board that he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I broke Kareem's record. I've done everything I

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<v Speaker 2>came here to do. I'm done. That's on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it on the board. This is a leverage play, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to what I would do if I

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<v Speaker 2>were the Lakers later that this is a leverage play

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<v Speaker 2>to get them to go all in, to go for

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie to do all those things. Yes, that is on

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<v Speaker 2>the board. Is it on the board that Lebron takes

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<v Speaker 2>a year off to rest and recuperate and then tries

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<v Speaker 2>to come back to play with Bronni Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's possible. On the board that he has off season surgery,

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<v Speaker 2>does not retire and misses the beginning of next season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that one might be the most

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<v Speaker 2>likely of the outcomes. But it was jarring to hear

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<v Speaker 2>a player who has never talked about retiring all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden volunteer it. And while I understand at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the game he got his shot blocked, he

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<v Speaker 2>was spectacular yesterday and this is not the biggest story

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<v Speaker 2>of the day. But I'm going to use this time

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<v Speaker 2>for a moment before we talk about what's next for

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers, to talk about guys that I like, but

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought did the audience a total disservice calling

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<v Speaker 2>this game yesterday. In Van Gundy and Mark Jackson. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had Van when I did radio in Houston. Jeff Van

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<v Speaker 2>Gundy would come in studio and talk hoops with us.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the guy Mark Jackson. I don't know personally,

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<v Speaker 2>but my TV co host Chris Brussard does says nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but great things about him. I think Van Gundy, Breen

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<v Speaker 2>and Jackson are a great booth, the best NBA booth

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<v Speaker 2>aside from Hubie and Doris when they're together in a

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<v Speaker 2>three person booth. But their commentary in the second half

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<v Speaker 2>of yesterday's game was as fascile and to me misleading

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<v Speaker 2>to the audience as anything I can remember. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>a ninety second stretch. Van Gundy demanded of Lebron, who

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<v Speaker 2>had played the entire game sixty five thousand minutes into

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<v Speaker 2>his career at age thirty eight in year twenty, to

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<v Speaker 2>drive to the basket every play, to do work in

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<v Speaker 2>the low post, to run the pick and roll through him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then threw in there at the end gard Nikolajokic

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<v Speaker 2>and they were commentating just clueless while Lebron was taking

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<v Speaker 2>some possessions off offensively floating around at the three point line,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark Jackson had the audacity to say, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're tired, but the great ones find a way. Pardon

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<v Speaker 2>me here, give me a goddamn break, Give me a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Davis, ten years younger than Lebron, in the prime

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<v Speaker 2>of his career, sat for eight minutes last night, played

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<v Speaker 2>forty and wasn't guarding Yo Kich every play, wasn't banging

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<v Speaker 2>on the low post every play. The idea that you

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<v Speaker 2>would call this game and act confused, Why isn't Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>driving to the basket with the same regularity that he

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<v Speaker 2>was in the first half of the second half, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not NBA two K with the fatigue sliders turned off,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's exhausting, because these are professional athletes, not robots,

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<v Speaker 2>who have a set amount of energy. Could prime Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>have done it? Yeah, that's what made him the best

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<v Speaker 2>player ever. The fact that year twenty Lebron can somehow

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to give you forty ten to nine

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<v Speaker 2>in a closeout game against the one seed playing forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven minutes and fifty six seconds is of forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>minutes is incomprehensible. The fact that Lebron I thought people

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<v Speaker 2>always kill him for taking threes at the end of games.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the final possession he should have pulled up

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<v Speaker 2>from three, because had the layup been successful, all that

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<v Speaker 2>would have done was guarantee another five minutes of overtime,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were clearly gas. But it was to not

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that he was the only guy on either team

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<v Speaker 2>to play the entire game was crazy to me, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to me. All right, what's next.

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<v Speaker 3>To your Okay? If you were running the Lakers, what

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<v Speaker 3>would you do this offseason?

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<v Speaker 2>Run it back? I know there's a ton of conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about Kyrie. Kyrie the juice has not been worth the

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<v Speaker 2>squeeze with Kyrie in seven years, and you would have

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<v Speaker 2>to give up all of your flexibility. You would have

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<v Speaker 2>to give up all of your potential depth in order

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<v Speaker 2>to get Kyrie irving. I would not do that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no chance I would do that. One of the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>to having young players is you can expect them to improve.

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<v Speaker 2>Austin Reeves has been a revelation. He should get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever contract he gets offered, you have the rights to

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<v Speaker 2>match match it. Ruy Hachimura is a young player coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the best stretch of basketball in his career, A

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<v Speaker 2>former lottery pick, match whatever contract offer he gets. He's

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<v Speaker 2>also restricted free agent, and expect him to get better.

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<v Speaker 2>De'angelo Russell was unplayable in the Conference finals. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to re sign him for a reasonable number and

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<v Speaker 2>see if he takes the defensive ends seriously for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in his career. Great. If not, you move

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<v Speaker 2>him at the deadline, and you challenge Anthony Davis to

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<v Speaker 2>night in, night out be the guy we saw at

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<v Speaker 2>different moments this postseason to take that next step to

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<v Speaker 2>be an actual MVP candidate. But the idea of trading

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<v Speaker 2>away and moving on from all your depth so you

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<v Speaker 2>can sign an unreliable, injury prone Kyrie Irving is totally

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<v Speaker 2>insane to me. The Lakers post deadline had the second

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<v Speaker 2>best record in all of basketball. They got beat by

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<v Speaker 2>a better team, and we'll get to the Nuggets in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. But I wouldn't make drastic changes assuming Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>is back. Now, what I would do is tell Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>and get on the same page with Lebron that it's

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be Duncan in year seventeen and eighteen Lebron in

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<v Speaker 2>year twenty one, meaning thirty minutes a night and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of nights off.

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<v Speaker 3>You should tell your buddy Maverick that it would really

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<v Speaker 3>hurt your feelings if Lebron retired.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the see so the I mean, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the attempted humor while I'm trying to give cogent analysis

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<v Speaker 2>to the listeners. I was being serious, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I I do wonder MAV tweeted, and MAV doesn't tweet much.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple months ago from a game, saying like watching

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<v Speaker 2>watching you play will never get old. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>never retire. I wonder if for Maverick's business purposes, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's if it's better if Lebron retires and they can

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<v Speaker 2>go full fledged into that phase of their career. My

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<v Speaker 2>my guess is Lebron's playing two more years. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be my to kind of finish that part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was saying about the minutes is the other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said this on TV, but it warrants mentioning again.

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<v Speaker 2>Here one of the great things about sports is more

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<v Speaker 2>often than not, every bill becomes due. So the Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics make the NBA Finals, they look like they're right

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<v Speaker 2>on the cusp, and then right before the season, their

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<v Speaker 2>head coach is involved in an infidelity scandal and he's

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed from the team essentially, and they have to promote

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant who's not ready named Joe Missoula, and all

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<v Speaker 2>year long, they're fine, they're fine, they're fine, And then

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs come around and he goes up against the

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<v Speaker 2>best coach in basketball, Eric Spolstra, and he's getting undressed.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk series later, but that emo Udoka bill finally

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:09.200
<v Speaker 2>became due these conference finals. Draymond Green punches Jordan Poole

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<v Speaker 2>in the face before the season starts, and the team

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of scuffed pretty aggressive. Yeah, it's terrible on

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<v Speaker 2>the road. No one can quite put their finger on why,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it was obvious why. And then they lose

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year, losing three straight road games,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kerr and Raymond said, yeah, the punch ruined our

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<v Speaker 2>team chemistry. That bill became due. Why am I bring

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<v Speaker 2>that up here? In this context? The Los Angeles Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>decided to start this year with a roster they knew

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<v Speaker 2>was broken, with Russell Westbrook as the point guard and

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<v Speaker 2>no shooting, and they started the year two and ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they eventually traded him fixed the right sure to

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<v Speaker 2>do would agree, went on a playoff run. So how

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<v Speaker 2>did that bill become due? Because it's quite clear watching

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<v Speaker 2>this series that the Lakers, most notably, Lebron ran out

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<v Speaker 2>of gas at the very end. Why because they had

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<v Speaker 2>to start playing playoff basketball with a month left in

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Because of that two and ten start, that

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<v Speaker 2>bill became due. That bill came due. Pardon me, they

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<v Speaker 2>did have two months of playoff basketball in them. Unfortunately

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 2>for them, their playoffs started a month before everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Is then a play in game, overtime in the playing game,

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and they ran out of gas three weeks before the

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<v Speaker 2>finish line. Everything matters. There are no free passes in

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, and I hope the Lakers know that. Moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a follow up question. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>If the Lebron era is over, was it a successful

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<v Speaker 3>tenure in La?

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<v Speaker 2>So full disclosure. I put this question in here something

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<v Speaker 2>of a I guess it would be a rhetorical question.

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 2>I wanted you to ask because this has become a

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<v Speaker 2>line of questioning, and I think it's the most ridiculous

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>line of questioning there is. Lebron has been with the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers from twenty nineteen to now five years. At worst,

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<v Speaker 2>at worst, they've been the third most successful franchise in

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<v Speaker 2>the league, likely been the second most. Let's just the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that the Lakers under with Lebron have not been

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<v Speaker 2>a success, then no one's been a success in this timeframe.

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<v Speaker 2>So five years, right, let's go through the champions and

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<v Speaker 2>what they've done. The Warriors in these five years have

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<v Speaker 2>won one title, made one other finals, two years they

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<v Speaker 2>missed the playoffs. One year they made the playoffs and lost.

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<v Speaker 2>That was this year, by the way. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>years they missed the playoffs in the play in and

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<v Speaker 2>this year they were knocked out by the Lakers. But

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<v Speaker 2>they are the benchmark. They have been the most successful.

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<v Speaker 2>The next most successful is the Lakers. They won a

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<v Speaker 2>championship and made a conference finals. That is more successful

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<v Speaker 2>than the Raptors who won a championship in this timeline

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<v Speaker 2>and did nothing else in the playoffs, or the Bucks

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<v Speaker 2>who won a championship in this timeline and did not

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<v Speaker 2>make another conference finals. Now there's the Heat. If the

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<v Speaker 2>Heat win the title this year, then they leap frog

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers because they would have made two finals, an

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<v Speaker 2>additional conference championship year or appearance, and won a title.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Nuggets win the championship this year, they will

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<v Speaker 2>have the exact same resume as the Lakers, both winning

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<v Speaker 2>one title. Both being knocked out by the other one

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<v Speaker 2>in the conference finals. So if this tenure wasn't successful

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<v Speaker 2>for the Lakers, then it wasn't successful for any team

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<v Speaker 2>over the last five years. It is an absurd question.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that you're asking it. I asked to be asked it.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it's been successful. A championship and a

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals appearance is more deep playoff runs and more

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<v Speaker 2>success than any team has had in these five years

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 2>other than Golden State, and Golden State twice had their

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<v Speaker 2>season ended by the Lakers. Uh. All right, let's move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's a question that you didn't ask to be asked.

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Producer Dan warned you about the number one seed Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 3>but you didn't listen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Before we get to the actual question, let's

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 2>talk about this for a moment. So I know some

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>people on this show. I don't know others because the

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 2>show's by coastal where in New York, show's in LA.

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 3>You're about to say something.

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I obviously know Demanse's my son, works on the show.

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I know Diora, she's my daughter, works on the show.

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I know Gabe because Gabe worked at FS one. Right

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 2>when I was hired, and Gabe and I developed a

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 2>real friendship. I know Matt Ford from the show. I've

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>actually hung out with Matt briefly in Vegas. I know Victor, who,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>even though he seemed to have some technical difficulties today Victor,

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I met him in person in New York. I see

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 2>him on Cameron Studio. I felt I got to know

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Karra a bit because I misidentified her job title and

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 2>felt terribly about it. I don't know Daniel that well. However,

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 2>I did find I did, despite not knowing him that well,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 2>develop a deep seated boiling anger towards him throughout these

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>playoffs because on our let me count ten person group chat,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Daniel found it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I also know Nick Wider. I think he plays basketball

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>at the Monse. Daniel found it appropriate after each game

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to send either videos from the game saying love butterfingers,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>trolling UH texts saying keep hating Denver, will still welcome

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>everyone with open arm UH sending UH eyeball emojis after

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>other games, sending video of him pretty videoing well. I

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't see any of that until this morning, and I

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>missed important texts because after about the third unprompted, unrequested

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 2>text from Daniel. I just muted the thread.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Now you muted the thread? Yeah, after we were talking

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 3>during the game and you just decided you didn't want

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 3>to hear us anymore.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, guys, if I want to be trolled by people,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll check my Twitter mentions, not my work text thread

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>that there's ways if you would like to send me

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>your trolley Nuggets thoughts at get Nick right, not the

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>What's right show text thread? So I mute to the

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. And I know there's probably a question of like,

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>is Nick serious or joking right now? I'm serious, so

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>serious and so angry about it that I was like,

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>who is this guy?

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 4>That I googled him and found Daniel graduated from USC

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 4>a year ago, found his Twitter, found this website that

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 4>I sent to game of Daniel from college doing his

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 4>sports show.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Just trolling me the whole time because he's a Nuggets fan.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't need that shit in my life. I'm gambling

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>on these games. I'm emotionally invested in these games. And Daniel,

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>who's younger than Demon's, is in my mentions sending me,

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>not even in my mentions in my actual phone sending

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>me texts that say love but her fingers like like

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>the worst of Twitter trolls. And now I got to

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 2>see him in the control room holding a broom sweeping

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>back and forth. It's unbelievable.

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>We're in the same sweatshirt from the video to exactly.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Coach lebron at usc all right, I gotta tell you,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you something. Everybody smiling and seems to

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>be having a good time. I really really hope because

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Gabe the Big Boss is there today. I really really hope.

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Daniel's awesome at his job, irreplaceable level awesome.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Why are you trying to get him fired?

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, I'm sure there's other Blue Duck projects that

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>would love his contributions. Wow, I don't know. I don't

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>know if Beatles Show needs a Nuggets troll on there.

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I listen, let this be a lesson.

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Victor now gets it. Victor has looked down and has

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>put his hand through his there. He's like, oh, I'm

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>not sure how if Nick's doing if this is a

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>bit or not, I'll just let it just sit in

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the room. Is this a bit or not?

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Everyone looks a little scary.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, what the I'm trying to watch basketball,

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>give analysis, put myself out there and gamble on these games,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and I gotta get a video of Lebron turning the

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>ball over.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>You can't take the heat.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I can take the heat.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 3>You obviously cannot take this.

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I can take the heat from people that I signed

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>up to receive the heat from.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, your friends are your biggest you know.

0:32:54.280 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed, my friend agreed. Wow, now finish the question.

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not insane. That's insane. It's it's I'm telling you

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>diora if. Remember when I did that talk for your

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>uh friends at school?

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Your friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're sorry, Sorry everyone, fellow students remember that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I I tried to be nice and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give folks, this actually wasn't even your school. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>different talk I gave. I don't want to put this

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<v Speaker 2>on your friends, but sometimes trying to give talks to

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<v Speaker 2>these kids like hey, can we keep in touch? Blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. I give my number. One person that I've

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<v Speaker 2>done that with has decided that's just a direct line

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>to troll me for my takes, like to just be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I have Nick's phone number now, I can just troll

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<v Speaker 2>him for his takes inappropriate? Now, am I saying producers?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I saying Daniel and putting them in the same

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<v Speaker 2>bucket as them? Bucket adjacent? All right, go ahead, what's

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 2>what's the nuggets? What's the nuggets? Question? Here?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So, as you said today, every bill becomes due.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 3>So do you owe the Nuggets? Jokic and most of

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>all recently promoted Koe p Daniel and the apologies. Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's no, no, and no.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing. I only demanded of Nikola Jokic

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<v Speaker 2>what we have always demanded of players that turn into

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<v Speaker 2>great players, which is, earn it before you are anointed. Annointed,

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<v Speaker 2>and if we go through the timeline, which we can

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<v Speaker 2>of my Jokic opinions in twenty twenty, when he started

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<v Speaker 2>to get the superstar buzz I said he was not

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<v Speaker 2>ready for the challenge at hand. In the conference finals,

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I was one of the only people in the world

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 2>that picked the Nuggets to beat the Clippers that year,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>picked them suck with him down three to one, and

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, but Anthony Davis, Lebron's gonna be too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was correct. The next year when he was

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<v Speaker 2>the runaway MVP. I raised the question, guys, are we

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 2>getting are we making the Russell Westbrook mistake of a

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 2>few years prior of giving the MVP to a guy

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<v Speaker 2>because he has gaudy awe offensive numbers when we know

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>that they are not yet a winning team. I made

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the case that Chris Paul, despite worse numbers, deserved league

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>MVP than they did. Happen to meet in the playoffs,

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and Chris Paul, I think beat him in five or

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 2>swept him. I don't even remember. It's pretty damn great.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Felt a little vindicated. The next year, no one denied

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that Jokic was excellent. I said, at the time he

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>was one of the six or seven best players in

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>the league, But now they were talking about giving him

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<v Speaker 2>his second MVP while everyone acknowledged the team could win nothing.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Now that was because of injuries. But I said, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to care about precedent and standard of

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>what the NBA MVP had? My history has been and

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<v Speaker 2>if we are just going to give it to the

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>guy who is carrying an inferior supporting cast, why not

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>give it to Luka? And then Luca made the Conference finals,

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<v Speaker 2>which up to that point was the high water mark

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>of Jokic's career, and Jokic got swept in Round one

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<v Speaker 2>This year, I said repeatedly, had the previous MVPs not

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<v Speaker 2>been misallocated? In my opinion, this was the year that

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<v Speaker 2>Jokic deserved it, But because he had just won two

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 2>straight and we'd had one three straight MVP in the

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>last sixty five years of the NBA, I didn't want

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 2>to break that for a guy who had yet to

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 2>break through. That's it. Did Jokic impress me this postseason?

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Of course? Is he this close to having a legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>claim that he is the best player in the world. Yes,

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 2>but it is not unfair or unreasonable to say you

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>have to show it. You have to prove it, and

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA that is done in the postseason. It

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 2>has never been done in the regular season ever. And

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 2>while yo Gets prior to this year had been statistically

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>a very good postseason performer, prior to this year, the

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 2>worst postseason series of his career by a mile was

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>his one conference finals. That does this change things? Of

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>course it does. He was just in a conference finals

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<v Speaker 2>again Lebron against Anthony Davis and was dominant, but this

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>idea that, and this is where and now it'll get

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a little Harry Kendrick Perkins brought up the race factor

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 2>of this and did it kind of haphazardly and awkwardly,

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and everyone just killed him for it. But this is

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 2>where there is an interesting uh comp The one other

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>guy that I can remember that we placed these type

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 2>of regular season accolades at his feet without him ever

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>show going on this type of playoff run was Steve

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Nash and that was a mistake. So it was odd

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and a little uncomfortable that we were doing it. Never

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>goes in this order ever. But now Jokic has a

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>dominant start to finish well, not quite finished, but as

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>far as he could have gone up to this point,

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<v Speaker 2>playoff run under his belt, the unbelievable regular seasons, and

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.879
<v Speaker 2>his biggest liability defense, which is defense he more than

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>held up in this series post game one. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the benchmarks to being one of the greatest players ever

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and he's checking them all off. But will I apologize

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 2>for not wanting to let him skip steps? I will not.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he now have an unimpeachable claim that he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the top three players in the world? Yes? Is

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 2>he one series away from having an incredibly strong claim

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 2>that he's the best player in the world. Yes, does

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 2>he maybe already have a decent claim that he's the

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>best player in the world. Yes, But I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to I am not going to rewrite history on how

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 2>we have always treated anyone that is trying to become

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the guy in the NBA. I'm just not going to

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 2>do it. Uh, the followup for him, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to root for the Nuggets to win at all?

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Now right?

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Why would I have to root for the Nuggets to

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 2>win at all? Who? Well? I mean, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>will talk about the heat in the moment the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy's pretty impressive take quick break talk Heat Celtics. Next

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 2>we'll trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Back. In episode one fifty three, What's Right with

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Nick Wright? We'd spent the first forty minutes of the

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 2>show on everything Lebron, Lakers, retirement, Nuggets, Lakers, all of it.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>We now have got to do. These are armored finals,

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 2>which by the time we talk on Thursday, could be

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 2>over pinning the result of tonight's game. So do you

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>go right ahead?

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So the Celtics have imploded and even the coach

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 3>is saying that the team is disconnected. Celtics expert Demonse

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:02.959
<v Speaker 3>Bird also had something to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and his tweet that he had here, Yeah, bro,

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 2>go ahead read it.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bro, I honestly got nothing to say about this.

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>The Celtics are lacking a certain household pets.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what he means by that, a certain

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 2>household pet? Like when you read it, do you know

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>what he's talking about? No, saying they don't have that

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 2>dog in them. He's such a dopest. I mean, it's

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>just such a dope. But I told him the Celtics

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>were didn't have it for this series. But go ahead now, uh,

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you can ask me.

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 3>The question, what's wrong with the Celtics? All right?

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, if there was ever a question about does coaching

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>matter in the NBA, here's your case study. Best coach

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 2>in the league, worst coach in the league, and it's

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 2>playing it all like that. Jimmy Butler is awesome. I

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.240
<v Speaker 2>think Butler's better than Tatum. I think he's more reliable

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>than Tatum in the playoffs. But Jimmy hasn't been the different.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>It is the fact that the Heat are totally connected.

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows their job, playing with massive confidence, and the

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Celtics are not the Celtics. Also, the Jalen Brown stuff

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>has been simmering all year long and it's now coming

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 2>to a head with him having the two worst playoff

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>games of his adult NBA career in Games two and

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>three of this series. Now, I picked the Heat to

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 2>win this series. Did I think they were gonna sweep them? No?

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 2>But does it look like they're gonna get swept now? Yes?

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And we'll do more of a Celtics post mortem. What

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>do they do from here once their season is officially over?

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>But we went so long in that first segment, Let's

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 2>just keep it moving here and we can talk a

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>little bit about the Heat.

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<v Speaker 3>So the eight seed Heat are on a legendary run playoff.

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy has stolen the show. Let's not forget about the

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>seven undrafted players on this roster or that coach Spoe

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 3>is running circles around the Celtics. What is the most

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 3>impressive part about this team, all right?

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It is that the undrafted guys are playing with this

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 2>level of confidence. Duncan Robinson, now that he's Duncan Robinson's

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 2>undrafted got eighty million bucks, then was getting DNP coaches

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>decisions for months on end, stepped into his role and

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't miss a beat. Struce and Vincent and Caleb Martin

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.919
<v Speaker 2>have been integral pieces of what the Heat have done

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and their undrafted players. That is Heat culture, that is

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 2>pat Riley. There's just no way around it. There's no

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 2>denying it, there's no trying to obfuscate what they are anymore.

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>They are a special organization with a great head coach,

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a great team president, and a great superstar that just

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 2>imbues confidence in everyone else and Bam when Bam is

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 2>right and rolling and awesome. Number two. Even though He's

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 2>not great offensively, and so I don't know what more

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 2>the he'd have to do. They rolled the Bucks, they

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.879
<v Speaker 2>rolled the Knicks. They are rolling the Celtics. They are

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 2>eleven and three in this series. The only other thing

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to say about this series is I want

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 2>to talk about ESPN's BPI, the Basketball Power Index. I've

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>talked about this before in regards to five thirty eight's

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Basketball Playoff calculator. I do not understand how a massive

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 2>sports media operation can trot something out there that is

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 2>so flagrantly and clearly incorrect and couch it in. This

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>is what our analytics, this is what our numbers tell us.

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 2>So ESPN's BPI said this was a ninety seven percent

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 2>chance for the Celtics to win this series. As of

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>this moment, they give the Celtics a thirty two percent

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>chance to win. So think about that for a moment.

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 2>ESPN's proprietary Basketball Power Index believes that right now the

0:47:54.400 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Celtics are ten times more likely to win a series

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 2>they are down three to zero in which has obviously

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 2>never been done. Then that same algorithm BPI thought the

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Heat were to win the series when it started. That

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:30.359
<v Speaker 2>is proof of concept that your algo is not any good,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 2>not because an outlier event happens. Outlier events happen, but

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 2>because any NBA series that your algorithm says is ninety

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 2>seven to three, any singular series you that you can

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>put in that says a team has a one in

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty three chance of winning means your formula is bunk.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 2>And why you would not, as a multi billion dollar

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 2>operation say guys, we just got to pull it off

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 2>the market until we can figure out what's wrong with it.

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>It's similar to and it is not a shot at

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 2>nikolajokicch I promise, but the Advanced Analytic Defensive box Score

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:32.359
<v Speaker 2>plus minus says that Nikolajokic is one of the four

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 2>greatest defensive players defensive players in the history of the NBA.

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 2>The moment your formula spits out that result, it is

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 2>proof that your formula is broken. And I don't know

0:49:53.880 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>how people didn't continue to trot it out there embarrasing.

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say it's irresponsible, because it's not

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 2>important enough to be irresponsible, but it is embarrassing. Uh,

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>And so I just I the Heat had the best

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 2>coach in basketball and the best player in the series.

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I understand why they were underdogs. I understand why you'd

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 2>be surprised that it's three to zero. No one should

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>be shocked that this is happening all right, time for

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 2>our game, which is right in the game of right ends,

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>all right, go right ahead, scoot So first.

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<v Speaker 3>One, Carmelo Anthony finally announced his retirement yesterday. Yep, you

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 3>will remember mellow as Oh that's easy.

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I will remember Carmelo as a Syracuse Orangeman or an

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Orange as they are called. Now. Uh, the best one

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<v Speaker 2>and done in the history of the NCAA and under career.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you what did you write?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Uh, I'm gonna give you a short list tried

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<v Speaker 2>to off top my head. Lebron Kareem Mailman, Kobe, Michael, Dirk,

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 2>wilt Shack. Those eight names, that's the entire list of

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:38.240
<v Speaker 2>people who scored more points in the NBA than Carmelo Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the ninth all time leading scorer. I understand his

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<v Speaker 2>postseason resume is quite threadbare. Only three postseason series victories.

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<v Speaker 2>There are only a handful of times, though he lost

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<v Speaker 2>as the favorite six first round against the Clippers bad

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty thirteen second round with the Knicks against the Pacers.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a great one, but he rarely was on the

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<v Speaker 2>better team. He had a great chance two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>nine to make the finals. Lakers Nuggets Game five, Western

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<v Speaker 2>Conference Finals, tie game going into the fourth quarter. Carmelo

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<v Speaker 2>scores eleven, Kobe goes zero for five, but the Lakers

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 2>win anyway, and they win Game six, win the title.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Carmelo was better than Kobe that night to go up

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<v Speaker 2>three to two in the series. His teammates weren't there

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and they that was his best chance. His

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<v Speaker 2>big mistake was instead of just signing with the Knicks,

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 2>demanding to be traded to the Knicks so they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the resources to put a championship team around him.

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<v Speaker 2>But still a deserving member of the All seventy five team,

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest men's basketball Olympian ever, NCAA champion. Great score.

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<v Speaker 2>I love mellow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So next is Lamar. After an endless contract negotiation,

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens extended Lamar. So all is good, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, sto, you gotta move the board a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. There you go, no problem, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So so all is good right? Well, reports out of

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore is that the QB didn't show up for the

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<v Speaker 3>first day of OTAs. Lamar not showing up to OTAs is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna write and say not great. But so

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing I actually support. I would support the

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<v Speaker 2>entire league taking off OTAs. We've talked about this four

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it briefly again. Here. The players in the

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<v Speaker 2>last CBA wanted more money. The owners didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>give them more money. Instead, they give them less days

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<v Speaker 2>at work, less mandatory offseason days, and then the so

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<v Speaker 2>that players take that instead of getting more money, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the owner use the media to pressure the players

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<v Speaker 2>to turn the optionals off season stuff into mandatory. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that. It strikes me as unfair. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would understand if nobody showed up, and I support almost

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<v Speaker 2>any player that doesn't want to show up. You negotiated

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<v Speaker 2>have this be optional, with the exception of the super

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<v Speaker 2>high paid quarterbacks. I do think, even though I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>union guy and a worker not a management guy, if

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<v Speaker 2>you are the face of an organization and paid as such,

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<v Speaker 2>there are other things that go along with it. There

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<v Speaker 2>are certain things that are expected of me at FS

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<v Speaker 2>one that are not expected of Demanse who works for

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<v Speaker 2>FS one. I'm one of the forward facing people. They

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<v Speaker 2>pay me a lot of money. Sometimes you got to

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<v Speaker 2>go above and beyond. So I'm not going to kill

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar for this, but it's not great. And even though

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<v Speaker 2>while I would support almost anyone skipping these things, the

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<v Speaker 2>super high paid quarterbacks probably should be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Next okay, next one, big Ben Ben Rothlessberger, good job.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I did it? Said he hoped Kenny

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<v Speaker 3>Pickett didn't succeed as a rookie. I hope he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>come ball out, because then it's like Ben who. Ben

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<v Speaker 3>big Ben's comments are.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote, they are kind of honest, not entirely honest,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of honest. They are honest in that I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe that there was an I appreciate the honesty

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<v Speaker 2>of him saying that he didn't want Kenny Pickett to

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<v Speaker 2>come out instantly be awesome. When I'm saying kind of honest,

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 2>it's because he knew no one would ever say Ben who,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a false humility to it. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that he didn't want Big Ben to instantly I'm sorry,

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 2>can you pick it to instantly come out and kick

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<v Speaker 2>ass all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Next okay, next one is yeah, the NFL agreed that

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<v Speaker 3>they screwed you out of your fifty to one Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl bet. Teams will now be allowed to designate an

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<v Speaker 3>emergency QB on game days. After we saw CMC and

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<v Speaker 3>a one armed rock party in the NFC Title Game.

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<v Speaker 3>If this rule was already in place, your fifty to

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<v Speaker 3>one Super Bowl ticket would have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Worth zero dollars. Zero dollars what I wrote, Because they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't gonna win with a fifth string or fourth string quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I say something about this? This is the most overwrought,

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous story I can remember the NFL. Let me just

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<v Speaker 2>tell people how it used to be. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three man roster, Forty five guys were active on

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<v Speaker 2>game day, with a forty sixth guy who was your

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<v Speaker 2>emergency third string quarterback who was also semi active on

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<v Speaker 2>game day. You could dress a forty sixth guy if

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<v Speaker 2>he was your third string quarterback, but if he played,

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<v Speaker 2>your other two quarterbacks couldn't go back in. The NFL

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<v Speaker 2>did not get rid of that. They simply said, your

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<v Speaker 2>forty sixth guy can be any position, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>dress forty six guys. On game day. Teams then decided

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want to waste one of those forty six

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<v Speaker 2>game day active spots on a third quarterback. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when this thing happened, the entire football media started saying,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, why doesn't the NFL let you dress

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<v Speaker 2>a third quarterback. You could dress ten quarterbacks if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to. They never changed that.

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<v Speaker 3>Try not to blow out your mic again.

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<v Speaker 2>So now all they've done is say, now you can

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<v Speaker 2>have a forty seventh guy dress, and he's gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>a third string quarterback, so be it. But everyone's saying, oh,

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the NFL screwed everyone here. No they didn't. They gave

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<v Speaker 2>teams more choices on what they want to do with

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<v Speaker 2>that forty sixth roster spot, and teams decided we would

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<v Speaker 2>rather have a backup linebacker offensive lineman than a third

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 2>string quarterback. That's their prerogative. But I and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I think most teams are not going to dress a

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<v Speaker 2>third quarterback for forty seventh game day roster spot because

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<v Speaker 2>that guy's got to be on your active roster and

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<v Speaker 2>most teams are not gonna have three of their fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three spots on their active roster be quarterbacks. Most teams

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna have their starter, a backup, and a practice

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<v Speaker 2>squad quarterback. Read your fan questions. Next quick break, what's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, episode one fifty. Now we're going to answer

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<v Speaker 3>your listener questions. Sure, go right ahead, Jack Fischker Fisher fish, Okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>Fisher go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Said you should people be able to talk about how

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<v Speaker 3>many undrafted players the Heat have as if it's a

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<v Speaker 3>bad thing if they win at all. The Nuggets aren't

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<v Speaker 3>untalented just because their best player is a second round.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, I think the undrafted thing with the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>is actually at this point a compliment. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted like whether people view it as that or not,

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<v Speaker 2>they should. It is a testament to their ability to

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<v Speaker 2>develop talent, identify their guys, identify market inefficiencies, and find

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 2>more than competent NBA role players that forget being second rounders,

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 2>that are just undrafted players. All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Next, okay? LJG asked, how is Luca a top twenty

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<v Speaker 3>player in the last fifty years, but Jokic couldn't make

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<v Speaker 3>the list with just as much playoff success up to

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<v Speaker 3>that point.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, to be clear, when we did the list,

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<v Speaker 2>Jokic had one MVP, not two. The two MVPs would

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<v Speaker 2>have got him on there. He obviously at this point

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<v Speaker 2>is a top fifty player of the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>The two MVPs plus this regular season plus this playoff

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<v Speaker 2>run makes it undeniable. As far as Luca goes. Watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Luca video, I explain that he was the one

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<v Speaker 2>guy on there that we were projecting forward. It was

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<v Speaker 2>an homage to Shack being on the NBA's fifty best

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<v Speaker 2>of the first fifty years, even though he'd only played

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<v Speaker 2>in the league for four years. That was the precedent

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<v Speaker 2>for it that we did with Luca.

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<v Speaker 3>Next, Okay, next question, Peter Alton's asked, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>think of the rumors of the Lakers pursuing Trey Young

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<v Speaker 3>and what could that potential trade package look like.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no potential trade package where the Lakers could

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<v Speaker 2>acquire Troy Young. It does not exist. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the picks. That is a nonsense story. In my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that this morning. It is a nonsense story.

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<v Speaker 3>Next, Jacob Connell asked who has been the player that

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<v Speaker 3>has individually overachieved the most in the ns in this NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Season, individually, overachieved the most gotta be Austin Reeves. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Austin Reeves has been outstanding and he's another

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted guy, but he's got himself probably a seventy million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar contract. I don't know if overachieved almost sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>an insult. It's not meant to be. But it's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be Austin Reeves. All right, what's the last one?

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<v Speaker 3>Producer? Dan asked when he comes out to New York

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<v Speaker 3>next month, do you do you want him to bring

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<v Speaker 3>a Jokich jersey or do you want another Pap Bab jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know Dan was coming out to New York

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<v Speaker 2>next month.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now you got to watch her back job interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I mean, I'm sure it's not to come to

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<v Speaker 2>this show. I don't know what it would be. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm not sure what the what the plan is there? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he says he'll stop by if I'll have him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, this isn't really my nature and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to be this guy. If I'm being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that's probably going to solve this fissure

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<v Speaker 2>in me and Dan's relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Is if he becomes no, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>About that is, if the Heat end up beating the Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 2>and if I get my get back via text at

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<v Speaker 2>his lowest moment, because.

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<v Speaker 3>He says that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing for the Nuggets right now. The Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>and their fans. I don't know if they'll admit this,

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<v Speaker 2>but they feel like they won the championship, not because

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<v Speaker 2>all beating the Lakers is more than a but because they,

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone else, are going to underestimate the Heat. The

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets and their fans. I'm certain we're rooting against Boston,

1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:33.360
<v Speaker 2>rooting against Milwaukee, thrilled to see all these big dogs

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<v Speaker 2>fall off, saying, oh my god, how lucky we earned

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<v Speaker 2>the one seed. We had a smooth path to the

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<v Speaker 2>Western Conference Finals. We then rolled the Lakers, and now

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna roll Miami. They are counting their championship. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see what playoff Jimmy does. If play off Jimmy rips

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuggets heart out and I am able to exact

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<v Speaker 2>revenge on producer Dan, then he can come by this show.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, then I just assume never actually meet him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, listen, that's just that is who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no regrets about that, and we'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. I think the Heat win tonight. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we have nine days between the end of the conference

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<v Speaker 2>finals in the NBA Finals, and I think even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the Marquis Lakers Celtics Finals, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us thought we were getting. I think it'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>great series. Talk to you guys on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>What's right, he's still sweeping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,