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Speaker 2: Welcome back in or Welcome in to What's Right, Episode
Speaker 2: one fifty three. If I you know, I don't think
Speaker 2: I've ever messed up the intro of this podcast, you.
Speaker 3: Gus I need to do it now.
Speaker 2: Well, little frazzled, Little rattled, fifty to one bet down
Speaker 2: the tubes again once again. Get to the final four
Speaker 2: with a fifty to one wager. Can't make it across
Speaker 2: the finish line. I watched Lebron have arguably one of
Speaker 2: the three greatest playoff halves of his career, only to
Speaker 2: have it squandered in minutes to start the second half,
Speaker 2: and then the game end and a loss, the season
Speaker 2: end in a sweep, and if that's not enough, I
Speaker 2: didn't go to sleep. I turn everything off, don't read
Speaker 2: anything on social.
Speaker 3: Media, and cry yourself to sleep.
Speaker 2: Did not There was no there were no tears, but
Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta it's gonna be a long
Speaker 2: day for me tomorrow, meaning today I got this show,
Speaker 2: I have the Herd, I have my own TV show.
Speaker 2: All of that on a day after my pick to
Speaker 2: win the time Idol gets swept in the conference finals
Speaker 2: against a team and a player that I have been
Speaker 2: Let's call it a somewhat vocal skeptic of like, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna consume any of the postgame stuffle. Deal with
Speaker 2: it in the morning. Wake up this morning, walk your
Speaker 2: little sister to the bus stop, open up the old phone,
Speaker 2: say okay, gotta start preparing for the show. And people
Speaker 2: are talking about Lebron James retiring, retiring.
Speaker 3: That's when the tears came. There were no tears, but
Speaker 3: you are loud.
Speaker 2: There is a sense of mortality, a sense of wistfulness.
Speaker 2: Lebron James famously has been in the league. It's played
Speaker 2: in the NBA for over half its life, but he's
Speaker 2: the exact same age as me, which means same for me.
Speaker 2: Over half my life, I've watched this guy play basketball.
Speaker 2: He's never once talked about retirement. And now the door
Speaker 2: has been cracked open, So we will get to that momentarily.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be lashing out today one person in particular,
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly.
Speaker 3: He called me hysterical this morning.
Speaker 2: Guys, I did not call you hysterical this morning.
Speaker 3: Do you guess what happened happened?
Speaker 2: Well, that's because I can't trust your professionalism to even
Speaker 2: know what happened in the NBA life.
Speaker 3: Don't say that because you.
Speaker 2: I would like to say, is he a prom No?
Speaker 3: I would like to say my entire prom weekend, I
Speaker 3: was checking scores and everything, something I never think i'd
Speaker 3: be doing.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly the entire prom weekend, which involved multiple
Speaker 2: post prom parties. Well, you were multiple houses in the
Speaker 2: Hamptons with your bougie friends and their bougie be towels.
Speaker 2: But I'm not listening there. You think I'm coming for
Speaker 2: you or for Victor who can't handle the microphone levels,
Speaker 2: Wait till I get to producer Daniel and his future
Speaker 2: with this with this show. Wow, we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2: Welcome in for the pod listeners. Episode one Free the
Speaker 2: Lakers lost, Lebron's contemplating retiring. Here's what missed the cut
Speaker 2: for today's show. Tom Brady comes Raiders Minority owner don't
Speaker 2: care brooks Koepka win says it validates live golfers. I
Speaker 2: would care about that, and my little gambling consortium that
Speaker 2: I'm just wait a moment, please, young lady in the
Speaker 2: little gambling consortium that I'm in. I tried to bet
Speaker 2: brooks Koepka on Saturday morning to win the tournament, and
Speaker 2: no one would take my bet, and then I had
Speaker 2: to watch him run away with the tournament. That was frustrating.
Speaker 2: And Demon's evidently feuding with his new snake. I told
Speaker 2: him to wait to get a snake. I told him
Speaker 2: to wait. He didn't listen, and now evidently he's got
Speaker 2: a problem with it. But none of that is where
Speaker 2: we're starting. DOORA, go right ahead. Where are we starting?
Speaker 3: So? Oh yeah, so we're starting with, of course, your boyfriend,
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Lebron. Despite Lebron dropping forty ten and nine,
Speaker 3: the Nuggets were just too much for the Lakers, as
Speaker 3: they completed the sweep. However, the story is actually about
Speaker 3: what happened after the game, not during, as Lebron, for
Speaker 3: the first time ever, seems to be contemplating retirement.
Speaker 2: So we can read you the quote that Lebron said
Speaker 2: at the podium, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So he had he said just for me personally, going
Speaker 3: forward with the game of basketball. I got a lot
Speaker 3: to think about it.
Speaker 2: And then Dave mcminnimmon and fellow Syracuse grad great journalists
Speaker 2: for ESPN followed up with him. He was like, are
Speaker 2: you actually talking about your futureies? And he confirmed yes,
Speaker 2: he's contemplating retirement. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: So I have three questions for you. Yeah, are you okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine?
Speaker 3: And are you actually okay? Is my second question?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fo okay.
Speaker 3: And are you buying that Lebron could actually retired? And
Speaker 3: if so, are you retiring?
Speaker 2: No? I won't be retiring. Am I buying that Lebron
Speaker 2: could actually retire? Yeah? I think I think it's on
Speaker 2: the board. I don't. I said on TV yesterday that
Speaker 2: just like it was on the board that the Lakers
Speaker 2: could be the first team ever to come back from
Speaker 2: three to zero down, it was on the board. That
Speaker 2: last night would be Lebron's final playoff game of his career.
Speaker 2: It's on the board, and I will tell you Lebron
Speaker 2: played as if he thought it might be his final
Speaker 2: time playing. He played the entire game except for the
Speaker 2: final four seconds of the first half. He came out
Speaker 2: guns blazing, trying to give the Lakers a big enough
Speaker 2: cushion that potent I would imagine. The plan was, shoot
Speaker 2: all your bullets in the first half, build a big lead.
Speaker 2: See if the Nuggets with a three to zero lead
Speaker 2: on the road, fold up shop, and then you can
Speaker 2: get some actual rest in the second half, and then
Speaker 2: put some pressure on them in Game five thirty one,
Speaker 2: in the first half, eleven of thirteen shooting his first
Speaker 2: half alone was the greatest old guy playoff game ever,
Speaker 2: and far and away the greatest year eighteen, nineteen or
Speaker 2: twenty playoff game ever. Just the first half. And then
Speaker 2: the Lakers immediately blew the lead. And we'll get to
Speaker 2: the end of the game and the Nuggets side of
Speaker 2: it in a bit. And then after the game, Lebron's
Speaker 2: questioning his basketball mortality. Now I know everyone's saying something
Speaker 2: of a similar thing. So Lebron's gonna talk about and
Speaker 2: talk about and talk about how he wants to play
Speaker 2: with Bronni, and then when he's potentially just two seasons
Speaker 2: away from being able to do that, that's when he's
Speaker 2: gonna walk away. Well, Lebron softened that play with Bronni's
Speaker 2: stance a few months ago when he said, just because
Speaker 2: that's my dream or my ambition doesn't mean it's his.
Speaker 2: And if Bronni doesn't think he's one and done, that
Speaker 2: then extends the timeline. If Bronni doesn't necessarily want to
Speaker 2: play with his dad, that extends the timeline. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of There are factors where maybe Bronni does
Speaker 2: think he's one and done but has made it clear
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be on a team with his dad,
Speaker 2: and Lebron might feel uncomfortable competing against him they're on
Speaker 2: different teams. What do you do.
Speaker 3: Like, that's a thing, though, that you have to kind
Speaker 3: of deal with.
Speaker 2: Well, no one's the history of basketball's ever had to
Speaker 2: deal with it.
Speaker 3: Well, not with your child, but right other family members.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's stall too, and but we've never seen it.
Speaker 2: We we we saw King Griffy Junior and King Griffy's
Speaker 2: senior play together. And baseball is also different because unless
Speaker 2: one was a pitcher and one was a hitter, which
Speaker 2: they weren't, you're not in direct conflict. We've never seen
Speaker 2: a father and son competing against each other at that level,
Speaker 2: and so there is so I don't know. I do
Speaker 2: know that through the first fifteen years of his career,
Speaker 2: Lebron was the most durable athlete in NBA history, he
Speaker 2: and Karl Malone. And then in year sixteen he tores groin.
Speaker 2: In year eighteen he suffered he ripped up a ten
Speaker 2: in his ankle. In year nineteen, I forget even what
Speaker 2: the injury was last year, and this year he ripped
Speaker 2: up at tend in his foot. So the injuries are
Speaker 2: starting to pile up, which is what happens with older ambulance.
Speaker 2: Well okay, well that's just what happens with older athletes.
Speaker 2: And so is it on the board that he says, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I broke Kareem's record. I've done everything I
Speaker 2: came here to do. I'm done. That's on the board.
Speaker 2: Is it on the board. This is a leverage play, sure,
Speaker 2: and we'll get to what I would do if I
Speaker 2: were the Lakers later that this is a leverage play
Speaker 2: to get them to go all in, to go for
Speaker 2: Kyrie to do all those things. Yes, that is on
Speaker 2: the board. Is it on the board that Lebron takes
Speaker 2: a year off to rest and recuperate and then tries
Speaker 2: to come back to play with Bronni Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's possible. On the board that he has off season surgery,
Speaker 2: does not retire and misses the beginning of next season. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that one might be the most
Speaker 2: likely of the outcomes. But it was jarring to hear
Speaker 2: a player who has never talked about retiring all of
Speaker 2: a sudden volunteer it. And while I understand at the
Speaker 2: end of the game he got his shot blocked, he
Speaker 2: was spectacular yesterday and this is not the biggest story
Speaker 2: of the day. But I'm going to use this time
Speaker 2: for a moment before we talk about what's next for
Speaker 2: the Lakers, to talk about guys that I like, but
Speaker 2: that I thought did the audience a total disservice calling
Speaker 2: this game yesterday. In Van Gundy and Mark Jackson. I've
Speaker 2: had Van when I did radio in Houston. Jeff Van
Speaker 2: Gundy would come in studio and talk hoops with us.
Speaker 2: I love the guy Mark Jackson. I don't know personally,
Speaker 2: but my TV co host Chris Brussard does says nothing
Speaker 2: but great things about him. I think Van Gundy, Breen
Speaker 2: and Jackson are a great booth, the best NBA booth
Speaker 2: aside from Hubie and Doris when they're together in a
Speaker 2: three person booth. But their commentary in the second half
Speaker 2: of yesterday's game was as fascile and to me misleading
Speaker 2: to the audience as anything I can remember. They're in
Speaker 2: a ninety second stretch. Van Gundy demanded of Lebron, who
Speaker 2: had played the entire game sixty five thousand minutes into
Speaker 2: his career at age thirty eight in year twenty, to
Speaker 2: drive to the basket every play, to do work in
Speaker 2: the low post, to run the pick and roll through him,
Speaker 2: and then threw in there at the end gard Nikolajokic
Speaker 2: and they were commentating just clueless while Lebron was taking
Speaker 2: some possessions off offensively floating around at the three point line,
Speaker 2: and Mark Jackson had the audacity to say, I know
Speaker 2: you're tired, but the great ones find a way. Pardon
Speaker 2: me here, give me a goddamn break, Give me a break.
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, ten years younger than Lebron, in the prime
Speaker 2: of his career, sat for eight minutes last night, played
Speaker 2: forty and wasn't guarding Yo Kich every play, wasn't banging
Speaker 2: on the low post every play. The idea that you
Speaker 2: would call this game and act confused, Why isn't Lebron
Speaker 2: driving to the basket with the same regularity that he
Speaker 2: was in the first half of the second half, because
Speaker 2: it's not NBA two K with the fatigue sliders turned off,
Speaker 2: because it's exhausting, because these are professional athletes, not robots,
Speaker 2: who have a set amount of energy. Could prime Lebron
Speaker 2: have done it? Yeah, that's what made him the best
Speaker 2: player ever. The fact that year twenty Lebron can somehow
Speaker 2: find a way to give you forty ten to nine
Speaker 2: in a closeout game against the one seed playing forty
Speaker 2: seven minutes and fifty six seconds is of forty eight
Speaker 2: minutes is incomprehensible. The fact that Lebron I thought people
Speaker 2: always kill him for taking threes at the end of games.
Speaker 2: I thought the final possession he should have pulled up
Speaker 2: from three, because had the layup been successful, all that
Speaker 2: would have done was guarantee another five minutes of overtime,
Speaker 2: and they were clearly gas. But it was to not
Speaker 2: acknowledge that he was the only guy on either team
Speaker 2: to play the entire game was crazy to me, absolutely
Speaker 2: crazy to me. All right, what's next.
Speaker 3: To your Okay? If you were running the Lakers, what
Speaker 3: would you do this offseason?
Speaker 2: Run it back? I know there's a ton of conversation
Speaker 2: about Kyrie. Kyrie the juice has not been worth the
Speaker 2: squeeze with Kyrie in seven years, and you would have
Speaker 2: to give up all of your flexibility. You would have
Speaker 2: to give up all of your potential depth in order
Speaker 2: to get Kyrie irving. I would not do that. There's
Speaker 2: no chance I would do that. One of the benefits
Speaker 2: to having young players is you can expect them to improve.
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves has been a revelation. He should get better.
Speaker 2: Whatever contract he gets offered, you have the rights to
Speaker 2: match match it. Ruy Hachimura is a young player coming
Speaker 2: off the best stretch of basketball in his career, A
Speaker 2: former lottery pick, match whatever contract offer he gets. He's
Speaker 2: also restricted free agent, and expect him to get better.
Speaker 2: De'angelo Russell was unplayable in the Conference finals. If you
Speaker 2: want to re sign him for a reasonable number and
Speaker 2: see if he takes the defensive ends seriously for the
Speaker 2: first time in his career. Great. If not, you move
Speaker 2: him at the deadline, and you challenge Anthony Davis to
Speaker 2: night in, night out be the guy we saw at
Speaker 2: different moments this postseason to take that next step to
Speaker 2: be an actual MVP candidate. But the idea of trading
Speaker 2: away and moving on from all your depth so you
Speaker 2: can sign an unreliable, injury prone Kyrie Irving is totally
Speaker 2: insane to me. The Lakers post deadline had the second
Speaker 2: best record in all of basketball. They got beat by
Speaker 2: a better team, and we'll get to the Nuggets in
Speaker 2: a moment. But I wouldn't make drastic changes assuming Lebron
Speaker 2: is back. Now, what I would do is tell Lebron
Speaker 2: and get on the same page with Lebron that it's
Speaker 2: gotta be Duncan in year seventeen and eighteen Lebron in
Speaker 2: year twenty one, meaning thirty minutes a night and a
Speaker 2: lot of nights off.
Speaker 3: You should tell your buddy Maverick that it would really
Speaker 3: hurt your feelings if Lebron retired.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the see so the I mean, I appreciate
Speaker 2: the attempted humor while I'm trying to give cogent analysis
Speaker 2: to the listeners. I was being serious, but I mean,
Speaker 2: I I do wonder MAV tweeted, and MAV doesn't tweet much.
Speaker 2: A couple months ago from a game, saying like watching
Speaker 2: watching you play will never get old. I hope you
Speaker 2: never retire. I wonder if for Maverick's business purposes, if
Speaker 2: it's if it's better if Lebron retires and they can
Speaker 2: go full fledged into that phase of their career. My
Speaker 2: my guess is Lebron's playing two more years. That would
Speaker 2: be my to kind of finish that part of the conversation.
Speaker 2: But I was saying about the minutes is the other thing,
Speaker 2: and I said this on TV, but it warrants mentioning again.
Speaker 2: Here one of the great things about sports is more
Speaker 2: often than not, every bill becomes due. So the Boston
Speaker 2: Celtics make the NBA Finals, they look like they're right
Speaker 2: on the cusp, and then right before the season, their
Speaker 2: head coach is involved in an infidelity scandal and he's
Speaker 2: dismissed from the team essentially, and they have to promote
Speaker 2: an assistant who's not ready named Joe Missoula, and all
Speaker 2: year long, they're fine, they're fine, they're fine, And then
Speaker 2: the playoffs come around and he goes up against the
Speaker 2: best coach in basketball, Eric Spolstra, and he's getting undressed.
Speaker 2: We'll talk series later, but that emo Udoka bill finally
Speaker 2: became due these conference finals. Draymond Green punches Jordan Poole
Speaker 2: in the face before the season starts, and the team
Speaker 2: just kind of scuffed pretty aggressive. Yeah, it's terrible on
Speaker 2: the road. No one can quite put their finger on why,
Speaker 2: even though it was obvious why. And then they lose
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, losing three straight road games,
Speaker 2: and Kerr and Raymond said, yeah, the punch ruined our
Speaker 2: team chemistry. That bill became due. Why am I bring
Speaker 2: that up here? In this context? The Los Angeles Lakers
Speaker 2: decided to start this year with a roster they knew
Speaker 2: was broken, with Russell Westbrook as the point guard and
Speaker 2: no shooting, and they started the year two and ten.
Speaker 2: Now they eventually traded him fixed the right sure to
Speaker 2: do would agree, went on a playoff run. So how
Speaker 2: did that bill become due? Because it's quite clear watching
Speaker 2: this series that the Lakers, most notably, Lebron ran out
Speaker 2: of gas at the very end. Why because they had
Speaker 2: to start playing playoff basketball with a month left in
Speaker 2: the year. Because of that two and ten start, that
Speaker 2: bill became due. That bill came due. Pardon me, they
Speaker 2: did have two months of playoff basketball in them. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: for them, their playoffs started a month before everyone else.
Speaker 2: Is then a play in game, overtime in the playing game,
Speaker 2: and they ran out of gas three weeks before the
Speaker 2: finish line. Everything matters. There are no free passes in
Speaker 2: this stuff, and I hope the Lakers know that. Moving forward,
Speaker 2: you have a follow up question. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: If the Lebron era is over, was it a successful
Speaker 3: tenure in La?
Speaker 2: So full disclosure. I put this question in here something
Speaker 2: of a I guess it would be a rhetorical question.
Speaker 2: I wanted you to ask because this has become a
Speaker 2: line of questioning, and I think it's the most ridiculous
Speaker 2: line of questioning there is. Lebron has been with the
Speaker 2: Lakers from twenty nineteen to now five years. At worst,
Speaker 2: at worst, they've been the third most successful franchise in
Speaker 2: the league, likely been the second most. Let's just the
Speaker 2: idea that the Lakers under with Lebron have not been
Speaker 2: a success, then no one's been a success in this timeframe.
Speaker 2: So five years, right, let's go through the champions and
Speaker 2: what they've done. The Warriors in these five years have
Speaker 2: won one title, made one other finals, two years they
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. One year they made the playoffs and lost.
Speaker 2: That was this year, by the way. One of the
Speaker 2: years they missed the playoffs in the play in and
Speaker 2: this year they were knocked out by the Lakers. But
Speaker 2: they are the benchmark. They have been the most successful.
Speaker 2: The next most successful is the Lakers. They won a
Speaker 2: championship and made a conference finals. That is more successful
Speaker 2: than the Raptors who won a championship in this timeline
Speaker 2: and did nothing else in the playoffs, or the Bucks
Speaker 2: who won a championship in this timeline and did not
Speaker 2: make another conference finals. Now there's the Heat. If the
Speaker 2: Heat win the title this year, then they leap frog
Speaker 2: the Lakers because they would have made two finals, an
Speaker 2: additional conference championship year or appearance, and won a title.
Speaker 2: If the Nuggets win the championship this year, they will
Speaker 2: have the exact same resume as the Lakers, both winning
Speaker 2: one title. Both being knocked out by the other one
Speaker 2: in the conference finals. So if this tenure wasn't successful
Speaker 2: for the Lakers, then it wasn't successful for any team
Speaker 2: over the last five years. It is an absurd question.
Speaker 2: Not that you're asking it. I asked to be asked it.
Speaker 2: But of course it's been successful. A championship and a
Speaker 2: conference finals appearance is more deep playoff runs and more
Speaker 2: success than any team has had in these five years
Speaker 2: other than Golden State, and Golden State twice had their
Speaker 2: season ended by the Lakers. Uh. All right, let's move
Speaker 2: on to the Nuggets.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's a question that you didn't ask to be asked.
Speaker 3: Producer Dan warned you about the number one seed Nuggets,
Speaker 3: but you didn't listen.
Speaker 2: All right, Before we get to the actual question, let's
Speaker 2: talk about this for a moment. So I know some
Speaker 2: people on this show. I don't know others because the
Speaker 2: show's by coastal where in New York, show's in LA.
Speaker 3: You're about to say something.
Speaker 2: I obviously know Demanse's my son, works on the show.
Speaker 2: I know Diora, she's my daughter, works on the show.
Speaker 2: I know Gabe because Gabe worked at FS one. Right
Speaker 2: when I was hired, and Gabe and I developed a
Speaker 2: real friendship. I know Matt Ford from the show. I've
Speaker 2: actually hung out with Matt briefly in Vegas. I know Victor, who,
Speaker 2: even though he seemed to have some technical difficulties today Victor,
Speaker 2: I met him in person in New York. I see
Speaker 2: him on Cameron Studio. I felt I got to know
Speaker 2: Karra a bit because I misidentified her job title and
Speaker 2: felt terribly about it. I don't know Daniel that well. However,
Speaker 2: I did find I did, despite not knowing him that well,
Speaker 2: develop a deep seated boiling anger towards him throughout these
Speaker 2: playoffs because on our let me count ten person group chat,
Speaker 2: Daniel found it.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I also know Nick Wider. I think he plays basketball
Speaker 2: at the Monse. Daniel found it appropriate after each game
Speaker 2: to send either videos from the game saying love butterfingers,
Speaker 2: trolling UH texts saying keep hating Denver, will still welcome
Speaker 2: everyone with open arm UH sending UH eyeball emojis after
Speaker 2: other games, sending video of him pretty videoing well. I
Speaker 2: didn't see any of that until this morning, and I
Speaker 2: missed important texts because after about the third unprompted, unrequested
Speaker 2: text from Daniel. I just muted the thread.
Speaker 3: Now you muted the thread? Yeah, after we were talking
Speaker 3: during the game and you just decided you didn't want
Speaker 3: to hear us anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, guys, if I want to be trolled by people,
Speaker 2: I'll check my Twitter mentions, not my work text thread
Speaker 2: that there's ways if you would like to send me
Speaker 2: your trolley Nuggets thoughts at get Nick right, not the
Speaker 2: What's right show text thread? So I mute to the
Speaker 2: whole thing. And I know there's probably a question of like,
Speaker 2: is Nick serious or joking right now? I'm serious, so
Speaker 2: serious and so angry about it that I was like,
Speaker 2: who is this guy?
Speaker 4: That I googled him and found Daniel graduated from USC
Speaker 4: a year ago, found his Twitter, found this website that
Speaker 4: I sent to game of Daniel from college doing his
Speaker 4: sports show.
Speaker 2: Just trolling me the whole time because he's a Nuggets fan.
Speaker 2: I don't need that shit in my life. I'm gambling
Speaker 2: on these games. I'm emotionally invested in these games. And Daniel,
Speaker 2: who's younger than Demon's, is in my mentions sending me,
Speaker 2: not even in my mentions in my actual phone sending
Speaker 2: me texts that say love but her fingers like like
Speaker 2: the worst of Twitter trolls. And now I got to
Speaker 2: see him in the control room holding a broom sweeping
Speaker 2: back and forth. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: We're in the same sweatshirt from the video to exactly.
Speaker 2: Coach lebron at usc all right, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you something. Everybody smiling and seems to
Speaker 2: be having a good time. I really really hope because
Speaker 2: Gabe the Big Boss is there today. I really really hope.
Speaker 2: Daniel's awesome at his job, irreplaceable level awesome.
Speaker 3: Why are you trying to get him fired?
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm sure there's other Blue Duck projects that
Speaker 2: would love his contributions. Wow, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Beatles Show needs a Nuggets troll on there.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I listen, let this be a lesson.
Speaker 2: Victor now gets it. Victor has looked down and has
Speaker 2: put his hand through his there. He's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure how if Nick's doing if this is a
Speaker 2: bit or not, I'll just let it just sit in
Speaker 2: the room. Is this a bit or not?
Speaker 3: Everyone looks a little scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what the I'm trying to watch basketball,
Speaker 2: give analysis, put myself out there and gamble on these games,
Speaker 2: and I gotta get a video of Lebron turning the
Speaker 2: ball over.
Speaker 3: You can't take the heat.
Speaker 2: I can take the heat.
Speaker 3: You obviously cannot take this.
Speaker 2: I can take the heat from people that I signed
Speaker 2: up to receive the heat from.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, your friends are your biggest you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, my friend agreed. Wow, now finish the question.
Speaker 2: It's not insane. That's insane. It's it's I'm telling you
Speaker 2: diora if. Remember when I did that talk for your
Speaker 2: uh friends at school?
Speaker 3: Your friends?
Speaker 2: Okay, you're sorry, Sorry everyone, fellow students remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I tried to be nice and like, you know,
Speaker 2: give folks, this actually wasn't even your school. It's a
Speaker 2: different talk I gave. I don't want to put this
Speaker 2: on your friends, but sometimes trying to give talks to
Speaker 2: these kids like hey, can we keep in touch? Blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. I give my number. One person that I've
Speaker 2: done that with has decided that's just a direct line
Speaker 2: to troll me for my takes, like to just be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have Nick's phone number now, I can just troll
Speaker 2: him for his takes inappropriate? Now, am I saying producers?
Speaker 2: Am I saying Daniel and putting them in the same
Speaker 2: bucket as them? Bucket adjacent? All right, go ahead, what's
Speaker 2: what's the nuggets? What's the nuggets? Question? Here?
Speaker 3: Okay? So, as you said today, every bill becomes due.
Speaker 3: So do you owe the Nuggets? Jokic and most of
Speaker 3: all recently promoted Koe p Daniel and the apologies. Okay, no,
Speaker 3: it's no, no, and no.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I only demanded of Nikola Jokic
Speaker 2: what we have always demanded of players that turn into
Speaker 2: great players, which is, earn it before you are anointed. Annointed,
Speaker 2: and if we go through the timeline, which we can
Speaker 2: of my Jokic opinions in twenty twenty, when he started
Speaker 2: to get the superstar buzz I said he was not
Speaker 2: ready for the challenge at hand. In the conference finals,
Speaker 2: I was one of the only people in the world
Speaker 2: that picked the Nuggets to beat the Clippers that year,
Speaker 2: picked them suck with him down three to one, and
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, but Anthony Davis, Lebron's gonna be too much.
Speaker 2: And I was correct. The next year when he was
Speaker 2: the runaway MVP. I raised the question, guys, are we
Speaker 2: getting are we making the Russell Westbrook mistake of a
Speaker 2: few years prior of giving the MVP to a guy
Speaker 2: because he has gaudy awe offensive numbers when we know
Speaker 2: that they are not yet a winning team. I made
Speaker 2: the case that Chris Paul, despite worse numbers, deserved league
Speaker 2: MVP than they did. Happen to meet in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and Chris Paul, I think beat him in five or
Speaker 2: swept him. I don't even remember. It's pretty damn great.
Speaker 2: Felt a little vindicated. The next year, no one denied
Speaker 2: that Jokic was excellent. I said, at the time he
Speaker 2: was one of the six or seven best players in
Speaker 2: the league, But now they were talking about giving him
Speaker 2: his second MVP while everyone acknowledged the team could win nothing.
Speaker 2: Now that was because of injuries. But I said, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: are we going to care about precedent and standard of
Speaker 2: what the NBA MVP had? My history has been and
Speaker 2: if we are just going to give it to the
Speaker 2: guy who is carrying an inferior supporting cast, why not
Speaker 2: give it to Luka? And then Luca made the Conference finals,
Speaker 2: which up to that point was the high water mark
Speaker 2: of Jokic's career, and Jokic got swept in Round one
Speaker 2: This year, I said repeatedly, had the previous MVPs not
Speaker 2: been misallocated? In my opinion, this was the year that
Speaker 2: Jokic deserved it, But because he had just won two
Speaker 2: straight and we'd had one three straight MVP in the
Speaker 2: last sixty five years of the NBA, I didn't want
Speaker 2: to break that for a guy who had yet to
Speaker 2: break through. That's it. Did Jokic impress me this postseason?
Speaker 2: Of course? Is he this close to having a legitimate
Speaker 2: claim that he is the best player in the world. Yes,
Speaker 2: but it is not unfair or unreasonable to say you
Speaker 2: have to show it. You have to prove it, and
Speaker 2: in the NBA that is done in the postseason. It
Speaker 2: has never been done in the regular season ever. And
Speaker 2: while yo Gets prior to this year had been statistically
Speaker 2: a very good postseason performer, prior to this year, the
Speaker 2: worst postseason series of his career by a mile was
Speaker 2: his one conference finals. That does this change things? Of
Speaker 2: course it does. He was just in a conference finals
Speaker 2: again Lebron against Anthony Davis and was dominant, but this
Speaker 2: idea that, and this is where and now it'll get
Speaker 2: a little Harry Kendrick Perkins brought up the race factor
Speaker 2: of this and did it kind of haphazardly and awkwardly,
Speaker 2: and everyone just killed him for it. But this is
Speaker 2: where there is an interesting uh comp The one other
Speaker 2: guy that I can remember that we placed these type
Speaker 2: of regular season accolades at his feet without him ever
Speaker 2: show going on this type of playoff run was Steve
Speaker 2: Nash and that was a mistake. So it was odd
Speaker 2: and a little uncomfortable that we were doing it. Never
Speaker 2: goes in this order ever. But now Jokic has a
Speaker 2: dominant start to finish well, not quite finished, but as
Speaker 2: far as he could have gone up to this point,
Speaker 2: playoff run under his belt, the unbelievable regular seasons, and
Speaker 2: his biggest liability defense, which is defense he more than
Speaker 2: held up in this series post game one. Those are
Speaker 2: the benchmarks to being one of the greatest players ever
Speaker 2: and he's checking them all off. But will I apologize
Speaker 2: for not wanting to let him skip steps? I will not.
Speaker 2: Does he now have an unimpeachable claim that he's one
Speaker 2: of the top three players in the world? Yes? Is
Speaker 2: he one series away from having an incredibly strong claim
Speaker 2: that he's the best player in the world. Yes, does
Speaker 2: he maybe already have a decent claim that he's the
Speaker 2: best player in the world. Yes, But I'm not going
Speaker 2: to I am not going to rewrite history on how
Speaker 2: we have always treated anyone that is trying to become
Speaker 2: the guy in the NBA. I'm just not going to
Speaker 2: do it. Uh, the followup for him, So.
Speaker 3: You have to root for the Nuggets to win at all?
Speaker 3: Now right?
Speaker 2: Why would I have to root for the Nuggets to
Speaker 2: win at all? Who? Well? I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 2: will talk about the heat in the moment the playoff.
Speaker 2: Jimmy's pretty impressive take quick break talk Heat Celtics. Next
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Speaker 2: Welcome Back. In episode one fifty three, What's Right with
Speaker 2: Nick Wright? We'd spent the first forty minutes of the
Speaker 2: show on everything Lebron, Lakers, retirement, Nuggets, Lakers, all of it.
Speaker 2: We now have got to do. These are armored finals,
Speaker 2: which by the time we talk on Thursday, could be
Speaker 2: over pinning the result of tonight's game. So do you
Speaker 2: go right ahead?
Speaker 3: Okay? So the Celtics have imploded and even the coach
Speaker 3: is saying that the team is disconnected. Celtics expert Demonse
Speaker 3: Bird also had something to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his tweet that he had here, Yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: go ahead read it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, I honestly got nothing to say about this.
Speaker 3: The Celtics are lacking a certain household pets.
Speaker 2: Do you know what he means by that, a certain
Speaker 2: household pet? Like when you read it, do you know
Speaker 2: what he's talking about? No, saying they don't have that
Speaker 2: dog in them. He's such a dopest. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just such a dope. But I told him the Celtics
Speaker 2: were didn't have it for this series. But go ahead now, uh,
Speaker 2: you can ask me.
Speaker 3: The question, what's wrong with the Celtics? All right?
Speaker 2: Well, if there was ever a question about does coaching
Speaker 2: matter in the NBA, here's your case study. Best coach
Speaker 2: in the league, worst coach in the league, and it's
Speaker 2: playing it all like that. Jimmy Butler is awesome. I
Speaker 2: think Butler's better than Tatum. I think he's more reliable
Speaker 2: than Tatum in the playoffs. But Jimmy hasn't been the different.
Speaker 2: It is the fact that the Heat are totally connected.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows their job, playing with massive confidence, and the
Speaker 2: Celtics are not the Celtics. Also, the Jalen Brown stuff
Speaker 2: has been simmering all year long and it's now coming
Speaker 2: to a head with him having the two worst playoff
Speaker 2: games of his adult NBA career in Games two and
Speaker 2: three of this series. Now, I picked the Heat to
Speaker 2: win this series. Did I think they were gonna sweep them? No?
Speaker 2: But does it look like they're gonna get swept now? Yes?
Speaker 2: And we'll do more of a Celtics post mortem. What
Speaker 2: do they do from here once their season is officially over?
Speaker 2: But we went so long in that first segment, Let's
Speaker 2: just keep it moving here and we can talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about the Heat.
Speaker 3: So the eight seed Heat are on a legendary run playoff.
Speaker 3: Jimmy has stolen the show. Let's not forget about the
Speaker 3: seven undrafted players on this roster or that coach Spoe
Speaker 3: is running circles around the Celtics. What is the most
Speaker 3: impressive part about this team, all right?
Speaker 2: It is that the undrafted guys are playing with this
Speaker 2: level of confidence. Duncan Robinson, now that he's Duncan Robinson's
Speaker 2: undrafted got eighty million bucks, then was getting DNP coaches
Speaker 2: decisions for months on end, stepped into his role and
Speaker 2: didn't miss a beat. Struce and Vincent and Caleb Martin
Speaker 2: have been integral pieces of what the Heat have done
Speaker 2: and their undrafted players. That is Heat culture, that is
Speaker 2: pat Riley. There's just no way around it. There's no
Speaker 2: denying it, there's no trying to obfuscate what they are anymore.
Speaker 2: They are a special organization with a great head coach,
Speaker 2: a great team president, and a great superstar that just
Speaker 2: imbues confidence in everyone else and Bam when Bam is
Speaker 2: right and rolling and awesome. Number two. Even though He's
Speaker 2: not great offensively, and so I don't know what more
Speaker 2: the he'd have to do. They rolled the Bucks, they
Speaker 2: rolled the Knicks. They are rolling the Celtics. They are
Speaker 2: eleven and three in this series. The only other thing
Speaker 2: I want to say about this series is I want
Speaker 2: to talk about ESPN's BPI, the Basketball Power Index. I've
Speaker 2: talked about this before in regards to five thirty eight's
Speaker 2: Basketball Playoff calculator. I do not understand how a massive
Speaker 2: sports media operation can trot something out there that is
Speaker 2: so flagrantly and clearly incorrect and couch it in. This
Speaker 2: is what our analytics, this is what our numbers tell us.
Speaker 2: So ESPN's BPI said this was a ninety seven percent
Speaker 2: chance for the Celtics to win this series. As of
Speaker 2: this moment, they give the Celtics a thirty two percent
Speaker 2: chance to win. So think about that for a moment.
Speaker 2: ESPN's proprietary Basketball Power Index believes that right now the
Speaker 2: Celtics are ten times more likely to win a series
Speaker 2: they are down three to zero in which has obviously
Speaker 2: never been done. Then that same algorithm BPI thought the
Speaker 2: Heat were to win the series when it started. That
Speaker 2: is proof of concept that your algo is not any good,
Speaker 2: not because an outlier event happens. Outlier events happen, but
Speaker 2: because any NBA series that your algorithm says is ninety
Speaker 2: seven to three, any singular series you that you can
Speaker 2: put in that says a team has a one in
Speaker 2: thirty three chance of winning means your formula is bunk.
Speaker 2: And why you would not, as a multi billion dollar
Speaker 2: operation say guys, we just got to pull it off
Speaker 2: the market until we can figure out what's wrong with it.
Speaker 2: It's similar to and it is not a shot at
Speaker 2: nikolajokicch I promise, but the Advanced Analytic Defensive box Score
Speaker 2: plus minus says that Nikolajokic is one of the four
Speaker 2: greatest defensive players defensive players in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 2: The moment your formula spits out that result, it is
Speaker 2: proof that your formula is broken. And I don't know
Speaker 2: how people didn't continue to trot it out there embarrasing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's irresponsible, because it's not
Speaker 2: important enough to be irresponsible, but it is embarrassing. Uh,
Speaker 2: And so I just I the Heat had the best
Speaker 2: coach in basketball and the best player in the series.
Speaker 2: I understand why they were underdogs. I understand why you'd
Speaker 2: be surprised that it's three to zero. No one should
Speaker 2: be shocked that this is happening all right, time for
Speaker 2: our game, which is right in the game of right ends,
Speaker 2: all right, go right ahead, scoot So first.
Speaker 3: One, Carmelo Anthony finally announced his retirement yesterday. Yep, you
Speaker 3: will remember mellow as Oh that's easy.
Speaker 2: I will remember Carmelo as a Syracuse Orangeman or an
Speaker 2: Orange as they are called. Now. Uh, the best one
Speaker 2: and done in the history of the NCAA and under career.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you what did you write?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Okay? Uh, I'm gonna give you a short list tried
Speaker 2: to off top my head. Lebron Kareem Mailman, Kobe, Michael, Dirk,
Speaker 2: wilt Shack. Those eight names, that's the entire list of
Speaker 2: people who scored more points in the NBA than Carmelo Anthony.
Speaker 2: He's the ninth all time leading scorer. I understand his
Speaker 2: postseason resume is quite threadbare. Only three postseason series victories.
Speaker 2: There are only a handful of times, though he lost
Speaker 2: as the favorite six first round against the Clippers bad
Speaker 2: one twenty thirteen second round with the Knicks against the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Not a great one, but he rarely was on the
Speaker 2: better team. He had a great chance two thousand and
Speaker 2: nine to make the finals. Lakers Nuggets Game five, Western
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, tie game going into the fourth quarter. Carmelo
Speaker 2: scores eleven, Kobe goes zero for five, but the Lakers
Speaker 2: win anyway, and they win Game six, win the title.
Speaker 2: Carmelo was better than Kobe that night to go up
Speaker 2: three to two in the series. His teammates weren't there
Speaker 2: for him, and they that was his best chance. His
Speaker 2: big mistake was instead of just signing with the Knicks,
Speaker 2: demanding to be traded to the Knicks so they didn't
Speaker 2: have the resources to put a championship team around him.
Speaker 2: But still a deserving member of the All seventy five team,
Speaker 2: the greatest men's basketball Olympian ever, NCAA champion. Great score.
Speaker 2: I love mellow.
Speaker 3: Okay, So next is Lamar. After an endless contract negotiation,
Speaker 3: the Ravens extended Lamar. So all is good, right?
Speaker 2: Well, of course, sto, you gotta move the board a
Speaker 2: little bit. There you go, no problem, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So so all is good right? Well, reports out of
Speaker 3: Baltimore is that the QB didn't show up for the
Speaker 3: first day of OTAs. Lamar not showing up to OTAs is.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna write and say not great. But so
Speaker 2: here's the thing I actually support. I would support the
Speaker 2: entire league taking off OTAs. We've talked about this four
Speaker 2: I'll do it briefly again. Here. The players in the
Speaker 2: last CBA wanted more money. The owners didn't want to
Speaker 2: give them more money. Instead, they give them less days
Speaker 2: at work, less mandatory offseason days, and then the so
Speaker 2: that players take that instead of getting more money, and
Speaker 2: then the owner use the media to pressure the players
Speaker 2: to turn the optionals off season stuff into mandatory. I
Speaker 2: don't like that. It strikes me as unfair. So I
Speaker 2: would understand if nobody showed up, and I support almost
Speaker 2: any player that doesn't want to show up. You negotiated
Speaker 2: have this be optional, with the exception of the super
Speaker 2: high paid quarterbacks. I do think, even though I'm a
Speaker 2: union guy and a worker not a management guy, if
Speaker 2: you are the face of an organization and paid as such,
Speaker 2: there are other things that go along with it. There
Speaker 2: are certain things that are expected of me at FS
Speaker 2: one that are not expected of Demanse who works for
Speaker 2: FS one. I'm one of the forward facing people. They
Speaker 2: pay me a lot of money. Sometimes you got to
Speaker 2: go above and beyond. So I'm not going to kill
Speaker 2: Lamar for this, but it's not great. And even though
Speaker 2: while I would support almost anyone skipping these things, the
Speaker 2: super high paid quarterbacks probably should be there.
Speaker 3: Next okay, next one, big Ben Ben Rothlessberger, good job.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did it? Said he hoped Kenny
Speaker 3: Pickett didn't succeed as a rookie. I hope he doesn't
Speaker 3: come ball out, because then it's like Ben who. Ben
Speaker 3: big Ben's comments are.
Speaker 2: I wrote, they are kind of honest, not entirely honest,
Speaker 2: but kind of honest. They are honest in that I
Speaker 2: do believe that there was an I appreciate the honesty
Speaker 2: of him saying that he didn't want Kenny Pickett to
Speaker 2: come out instantly be awesome. When I'm saying kind of honest,
Speaker 2: it's because he knew no one would ever say Ben who,
Speaker 2: And that's a false humility to it. But I do
Speaker 2: believe that he didn't want Big Ben to instantly I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: can you pick it to instantly come out and kick
Speaker 2: ass all right.
Speaker 3: Next okay, next one is yeah, the NFL agreed that
Speaker 3: they screwed you out of your fifty to one Super
Speaker 3: Bowl bet. Teams will now be allowed to designate an
Speaker 3: emergency QB on game days. After we saw CMC and
Speaker 3: a one armed rock party in the NFC Title Game.
Speaker 3: If this rule was already in place, your fifty to
Speaker 3: one Super Bowl ticket would have been.
Speaker 2: Worth zero dollars. Zero dollars what I wrote, Because they
Speaker 2: weren't gonna win with a fifth string or fourth string quarterback.
Speaker 2: Can I say something about this? This is the most overwrought,
Speaker 2: ridiculous story I can remember the NFL. Let me just
Speaker 2: tell people how it used to be. You have a
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster, Forty five guys were active on
Speaker 2: game day, with a forty sixth guy who was your
Speaker 2: emergency third string quarterback who was also semi active on
Speaker 2: game day. You could dress a forty sixth guy if
Speaker 2: he was your third string quarterback, but if he played,
Speaker 2: your other two quarterbacks couldn't go back in. The NFL
Speaker 2: did not get rid of that. They simply said, your
Speaker 2: forty sixth guy can be any position, and you can
Speaker 2: dress forty six guys. On game day. Teams then decided
Speaker 2: they didn't want to waste one of those forty six
Speaker 2: game day active spots on a third quarterback. And then
Speaker 2: when this thing happened, the entire football media started saying,
Speaker 2: oh my god, why doesn't the NFL let you dress
Speaker 2: a third quarterback. You could dress ten quarterbacks if you
Speaker 2: wanted to. They never changed that.
Speaker 3: Try not to blow out your mic again.
Speaker 2: So now all they've done is say, now you can
Speaker 2: have a forty seventh guy dress, and he's gotta be
Speaker 2: a third string quarterback, so be it. But everyone's saying, oh,
Speaker 2: the NFL screwed everyone here. No they didn't. They gave
Speaker 2: teams more choices on what they want to do with
Speaker 2: that forty sixth roster spot, and teams decided we would
Speaker 2: rather have a backup linebacker offensive lineman than a third
Speaker 2: string quarterback. That's their prerogative. But I and by the way,
Speaker 2: I think most teams are not going to dress a
Speaker 2: third quarterback for forty seventh game day roster spot because
Speaker 2: that guy's got to be on your active roster and
Speaker 2: most teams are not gonna have three of their fifty
Speaker 2: three spots on their active roster be quarterbacks. Most teams
Speaker 2: are gonna have their starter, a backup, and a practice
Speaker 2: squad quarterback. Read your fan questions. Next quick break, what's right?
Speaker 3: Welcome back, episode one fifty. Now we're going to answer
Speaker 3: your listener questions. Sure, go right ahead, Jack Fischker Fisher fish, Okay, whatever,
Speaker 3: Fisher go ahead?
Speaker 2: Uh huh, go ahead?
Speaker 3: Said you should people be able to talk about how
Speaker 3: many undrafted players the Heat have as if it's a
Speaker 3: bad thing if they win at all. The Nuggets aren't
Speaker 3: untalented just because their best player is a second round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think the undrafted thing with the Heat
Speaker 2: is actually at this point a compliment. I think the
Speaker 2: undrafted like whether people view it as that or not,
Speaker 2: they should. It is a testament to their ability to
Speaker 2: develop talent, identify their guys, identify market inefficiencies, and find
Speaker 2: more than competent NBA role players that forget being second rounders,
Speaker 2: that are just undrafted players. All right?
Speaker 3: Next, okay? LJG asked, how is Luca a top twenty
Speaker 3: player in the last fifty years, but Jokic couldn't make
Speaker 3: the list with just as much playoff success up to
Speaker 3: that point.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, to be clear, when we did the list,
Speaker 2: Jokic had one MVP, not two. The two MVPs would
Speaker 2: have got him on there. He obviously at this point
Speaker 2: is a top fifty player of the last fifty years.
Speaker 2: The two MVPs plus this regular season plus this playoff
Speaker 2: run makes it undeniable. As far as Luca goes. Watch
Speaker 2: the Luca video, I explain that he was the one
Speaker 2: guy on there that we were projecting forward. It was
Speaker 2: an homage to Shack being on the NBA's fifty best
Speaker 2: of the first fifty years, even though he'd only played
Speaker 2: in the league for four years. That was the precedent
Speaker 2: for it that we did with Luca.
Speaker 3: Next, Okay, next question, Peter Alton's asked, what do you
Speaker 3: think of the rumors of the Lakers pursuing Trey Young
Speaker 3: and what could that potential trade package look like.
Speaker 2: There is no potential trade package where the Lakers could
Speaker 2: acquire Troy Young. It does not exist. They don't have
Speaker 2: the picks. That is a nonsense story. In my opinion.
Speaker 2: I saw that this morning. It is a nonsense story.
Speaker 3: Next, Jacob Connell asked who has been the player that
Speaker 3: has individually overachieved the most in the ns in this NBA.
Speaker 2: Season, individually, overachieved the most gotta be Austin Reeves. And
Speaker 2: I think Austin Reeves has been outstanding and he's another
Speaker 2: undrafted guy, but he's got himself probably a seventy million
Speaker 2: dollar contract. I don't know if overachieved almost sounds like
Speaker 2: an insult. It's not meant to be. But it's got
Speaker 2: to be Austin Reeves. All right, what's the last one?
Speaker 3: Producer? Dan asked when he comes out to New York
Speaker 3: next month, do you do you want him to bring
Speaker 3: a Jokich jersey or do you want another Pap Bab jersey.
Speaker 2: I didn't know Dan was coming out to New York
Speaker 2: next month.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you got to watch her back job interview.
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean, I'm sure it's not to come to
Speaker 2: this show. I don't know what it would be. I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not sure what the what the plan is there? Uh,
Speaker 2: he says he'll stop by if I'll have him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: here's the thing, this isn't really my nature and I
Speaker 2: don't like to be this guy. If I'm being honest.
Speaker 2: The only thing that's probably going to solve this fissure
Speaker 2: in me and Dan's relationship.
Speaker 3: Is if he becomes no, I don't care.
Speaker 2: About that is, if the Heat end up beating the Nuggets,
Speaker 2: and if I get my get back via text at
Speaker 2: his lowest moment, because.
Speaker 3: He says that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing for the Nuggets right now. The Nuggets
Speaker 2: and their fans. I don't know if they'll admit this,
Speaker 2: but they feel like they won the championship, not because
Speaker 2: all beating the Lakers is more than a but because they,
Speaker 2: like everyone else, are going to underestimate the Heat. The
Speaker 2: Nuggets and their fans. I'm certain we're rooting against Boston,
Speaker 2: rooting against Milwaukee, thrilled to see all these big dogs
Speaker 2: fall off, saying, oh my god, how lucky we earned
Speaker 2: the one seed. We had a smooth path to the
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals. We then rolled the Lakers, and now
Speaker 2: we're gonna roll Miami. They are counting their championship. Let's
Speaker 2: see what playoff Jimmy does. If play off Jimmy rips
Speaker 2: the Nuggets heart out and I am able to exact
Speaker 2: revenge on producer Dan, then he can come by this show.
Speaker 2: If not, then I just assume never actually meet him.
Speaker 2: So I mean, listen, that's just that is who I am.
Speaker 2: I have no regrets about that, and we'll see how
Speaker 2: it goes. I think the Heat win tonight. I think
Speaker 2: we have nine days between the end of the conference
Speaker 2: finals in the NBA Finals, and I think even though
Speaker 2: it's not the Marquis Lakers Celtics Finals, a lot of
Speaker 2: us thought we were getting. I think it'll be a
Speaker 2: great series. Talk to you guys on Thursday.
Speaker 3: What's right, he's still sweeping.
Speaker 2: Yeah,