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Speaker 2: Welcome back in or Welcome in to What's Right, Episode

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Speaker 2: one fifty three. If I you know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've ever messed up the intro of this podcast, you.

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Speaker 3: Gus I need to do it now.

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Speaker 2: Well, little frazzled, Little rattled, fifty to one bet down

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Speaker 2: the tubes again once again. Get to the final four

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Speaker 2: with a fifty to one wager. Can't make it across

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Speaker 2: the finish line. I watched Lebron have arguably one of

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Speaker 2: the three greatest playoff halves of his career, only to

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Speaker 2: and then the game end and a loss, the season

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Speaker 2: end in a sweep, and if that's not enough, I

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Speaker 2: didn't go to sleep. I turn everything off, don't read

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Speaker 2: anything on social.

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Speaker 3: Media, and cry yourself to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Did not There was no there were no tears, but

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Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta it's gonna be a long

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Speaker 2: day for me tomorrow, meaning today I got this show,

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Speaker 2: I have the Herd, I have my own TV show.

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Speaker 2: All of that on a day after my pick to

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Speaker 2: win the time Idol gets swept in the conference finals

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Speaker 2: against a team and a player that I have been

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Speaker 2: Let's call it a somewhat vocal skeptic of like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna consume any of the postgame stuffle. Deal with

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Speaker 2: it in the morning. Wake up this morning, walk your

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Speaker 2: little sister to the bus stop, open up the old phone,

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Speaker 2: say okay, gotta start preparing for the show. And people

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Speaker 2: are talking about Lebron James retiring, retiring.

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Speaker 3: That's when the tears came. There were no tears, but

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Speaker 3: you are loud.

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Speaker 2: There is a sense of mortality, a sense of wistfulness.

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Speaker 2: Lebron James famously has been in the league. It's played

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Speaker 2: in the NBA for over half its life, but he's

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Speaker 2: the exact same age as me, which means same for me.

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Speaker 2: Over half my life, I've watched this guy play basketball.

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Speaker 2: He's never once talked about retirement. And now the door

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Speaker 2: has been cracked open, So we will get to that momentarily.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be lashing out today one person in particular,

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly.

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Speaker 3: He called me hysterical this morning.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I did not call you hysterical this morning.

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Speaker 3: Do you guess what happened happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's because I can't trust your professionalism to even

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Speaker 2: know what happened in the NBA life.

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Speaker 3: Don't say that because you.

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Speaker 2: I would like to say, is he a prom No?

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Speaker 3: I would like to say my entire prom weekend, I

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly the entire prom weekend, which involved multiple

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Speaker 2: post prom parties. Well, you were multiple houses in the

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Speaker 2: Hamptons with your bougie friends and their bougie be towels.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not listening there. You think I'm coming for

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Speaker 2: you or for Victor who can't handle the microphone levels,

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Speaker 2: Wait till I get to producer Daniel and his future

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Speaker 2: with this with this show. Wow, we'll get to that later.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in for the pod listeners. Episode one Free the

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Speaker 2: Lakers lost, Lebron's contemplating retiring. Here's what missed the cut

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Speaker 2: for today's show. Tom Brady comes Raiders Minority owner don't

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Speaker 2: care brooks Koepka win says it validates live golfers. I

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Speaker 2: I'm just wait a moment, please, young lady in the

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Speaker 2: little gambling consortium that I'm in. I tried to bet

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Speaker 2: to watch him run away with the tournament. That was frustrating.

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Speaker 2: And Demon's evidently feuding with his new snake. I told

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Speaker 2: we're starting. DOORA, go right ahead. Where are we starting?

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Speaker 3: So? Oh yeah, so we're starting with, of course, your boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, Lebron. Despite Lebron dropping forty ten and nine,

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Speaker 3: the Nuggets were just too much for the Lakers, as

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Speaker 2: So we can read you the quote that Lebron said

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Speaker 3: So he had he said just for me personally, going

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Speaker 2: And then Dave mcminnimmon and fellow Syracuse grad great journalists

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Speaker 2: for ESPN followed up with him. He was like, are

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Speaker 2: you actually talking about your futureies? And he confirmed yes,

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Speaker 3: So I have three questions for you. Yeah, are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine?

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Speaker 3: And are you actually okay? Is my second question?

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Speaker 3: And are you buying that Lebron could actually retired? And

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Speaker 3: if so, are you retiring?

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Speaker 2: No? I won't be retiring. Am I buying that Lebron

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Speaker 2: could actually retire? Yeah? I think I think it's on

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Speaker 2: the board. I don't. I said on TV yesterday that

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Speaker 2: just like it was on the board that the Lakers

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Speaker 2: three to zero down, it was on the board. That

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Speaker 2: last night would be Lebron's final playoff game of his career.

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Speaker 2: It's on the board, and I will tell you Lebron

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Speaker 2: played as if he thought it might be his final

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Speaker 2: all your bullets in the first half, build a big lead.

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Speaker 2: See if the Nuggets with a three to zero lead

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Speaker 2: put some pressure on them in Game five thirty one,

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Speaker 2: in the first half, eleven of thirteen shooting his first

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Speaker 2: the Lakers immediately blew the lead. And we'll get to

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Speaker 2: questioning his basketball mortality. Now I know everyone's saying something

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Speaker 2: with Bronni, and then when he's potentially just two seasons

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Speaker 2: gonna walk away. Well, Lebron softened that play with Bronni's

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Speaker 2: And if Bronni doesn't think he's one and done, that

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Speaker 2: then extends the timeline. If Bronni doesn't necessarily want to

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Speaker 2: play with his dad, that extends the timeline. There are

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Speaker 2: a lot of There are factors where maybe Bronni does

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Speaker 2: think he's one and done but has made it clear

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Speaker 2: and Lebron might feel uncomfortable competing against him they're on

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Speaker 2: different teams. What do you do.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's a thing, though, that you have to kind

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Speaker 2: Well, no one's the history of basketball's ever had to

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Speaker 3: Well, not with your child, but right other family members.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's stall too, and but we've never seen it.

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Speaker 2: We we we saw King Griffy Junior and King Griffy's

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Speaker 2: they weren't, you're not in direct conflict. We've never seen

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Speaker 2: and so there is so I don't know. I do

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Speaker 2: know that through the first fifteen years of his career,

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Speaker 2: Lebron was the most durable athlete in NBA history, he

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Speaker 2: and Karl Malone. And then in year sixteen he tores groin.

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Speaker 2: In year eighteen he suffered he ripped up a ten

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Speaker 2: the injury was last year, and this year he ripped

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Speaker 2: starting to pile up, which is what happens with older ambulance.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, well that's just what happens with older athletes.

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Speaker 2: And so is it on the board that he says, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I broke Kareem's record. I've done everything I

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Speaker 2: came here to do. I'm done. That's on the board.

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Speaker 2: Is it on the board. This is a leverage play, sure,

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Speaker 2: Kyrie to do all those things. Yes, that is on

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Speaker 2: to come back to play with Bronni Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: that's possible. On the board that he has off season surgery,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that one might be the most

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Speaker 2: I love the guy Mark Jackson. I don't know personally,

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Speaker 2: but my TV co host Chris Brussard does says nothing

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Speaker 2: but great things about him. I think Van Gundy, Breen

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Speaker 2: to the audience as anything I can remember. They're in

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Speaker 2: a ninety second stretch. Van Gundy demanded of Lebron, who

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Speaker 2: had played the entire game sixty five thousand minutes into

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Speaker 2: his career at age thirty eight in year twenty, to

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Speaker 2: some possessions off offensively floating around at the three point line,

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Speaker 2: and Mark Jackson had the audacity to say, I know

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Speaker 2: me here, give me a goddamn break, Give me a break.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, ten years younger than Lebron, in the prime

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Speaker 2: forty and wasn't guarding Yo Kich every play, wasn't banging

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Speaker 2: So five years, right, let's go through the champions and

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Speaker 2: If the Nuggets win the championship this year, they will

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's a question that you didn't ask to be asked.

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Speaker 3: You're about to say something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, guys, if I want to be trolled by people,

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Speaker 2: Just trolling me the whole time because he's a Nuggets fan.

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Speaker 2: Daniel's awesome at his job, irreplaceable level awesome.

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Speaker 2: know if Beatles Show needs a Nuggets troll on there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I listen, let this be a lesson.

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: Victor now gets it. Victor has looked down and has

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Speaker 2: put his hand through his there. He's like, oh, I'm

435
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: not sure how if Nick's doing if this is a

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: bit or not, I'll just let it just sit in

437
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: the room. Is this a bit or not?

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Speaker 3: Everyone looks a little scary.

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00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what the I'm trying to watch basketball,

440
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: give analysis, put myself out there and gamble on these games,

441
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: and I gotta get a video of Lebron turning the

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Speaker 2: ball over.

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Speaker 3: You can't take the heat.

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00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: I can take the heat.

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00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: You obviously cannot take this.

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00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: I can take the heat from people that I signed

447
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: up to receive the heat from.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, your friends are your biggest you know.

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00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, my friend agreed. Wow, now finish the question.

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00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: It's not insane. That's insane. It's it's I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: diora if. Remember when I did that talk for your

452
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Speaker 2: uh friends at school?

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Speaker 3: Your friends?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're sorry, Sorry everyone, fellow students remember that. Yeah,

455
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: I I tried to be nice and like, you know,

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00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: give folks, this actually wasn't even your school. It's a

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00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: different talk I gave. I don't want to put this

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Speaker 2: on your friends, but sometimes trying to give talks to

459
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: these kids like hey, can we keep in touch? Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. I give my number. One person that I've

461
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: done that with has decided that's just a direct line

462
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: to troll me for my takes, like to just be like, oh,

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00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: I have Nick's phone number now, I can just troll

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Speaker 2: him for his takes inappropriate? Now, am I saying producers?

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Speaker 2: Am I saying Daniel and putting them in the same

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00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: bucket as them? Bucket adjacent? All right, go ahead, what's

467
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: what's the nuggets? What's the nuggets? Question? Here?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So, as you said today, every bill becomes due.

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00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: So do you owe the Nuggets? Jokic and most of

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00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: all recently promoted Koe p Daniel and the apologies. Okay, no,

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Speaker 3: it's no, no, and no.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I only demanded of Nikola Jokic

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Speaker 2: what we have always demanded of players that turn into

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Speaker 2: great players, which is, earn it before you are anointed. Annointed,

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Speaker 2: and if we go through the timeline, which we can

476
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: of my Jokic opinions in twenty twenty, when he started

477
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: to get the superstar buzz I said he was not

478
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: ready for the challenge at hand. In the conference finals,

479
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Speaker 2: I was one of the only people in the world

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00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: that picked the Nuggets to beat the Clippers that year,

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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: picked them suck with him down three to one, and

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00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, but Anthony Davis, Lebron's gonna be too much.

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: And I was correct. The next year when he was

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Speaker 2: the runaway MVP. I raised the question, guys, are we

485
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Speaker 2: getting are we making the Russell Westbrook mistake of a

486
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 2: few years prior of giving the MVP to a guy

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00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: because he has gaudy awe offensive numbers when we know

488
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: that they are not yet a winning team. I made

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Speaker 2: the case that Chris Paul, despite worse numbers, deserved league

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Speaker 2: MVP than they did. Happen to meet in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and Chris Paul, I think beat him in five or

492
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: swept him. I don't even remember. It's pretty damn great.

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Speaker 2: Felt a little vindicated. The next year, no one denied

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Speaker 2: that Jokic was excellent. I said, at the time he

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00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: was one of the six or seven best players in

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Speaker 2: the league, But now they were talking about giving him

497
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: his second MVP while everyone acknowledged the team could win nothing.

498
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: Now that was because of injuries. But I said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: are we going to care about precedent and standard of

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Speaker 2: what the NBA MVP had? My history has been and

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00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: if we are just going to give it to the

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00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: guy who is carrying an inferior supporting cast, why not

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Speaker 2: give it to Luka? And then Luca made the Conference finals,

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00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: which up to that point was the high water mark

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Speaker 2: of Jokic's career, and Jokic got swept in Round one

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Speaker 2: This year, I said repeatedly, had the previous MVPs not

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Speaker 2: been misallocated? In my opinion, this was the year that

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00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: Jokic deserved it, But because he had just won two

509
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Speaker 2: straight and we'd had one three straight MVP in the

510
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: last sixty five years of the NBA, I didn't want

511
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: to break that for a guy who had yet to

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00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: break through. That's it. Did Jokic impress me this postseason?

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Speaker 2: Of course? Is he this close to having a legitimate

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Speaker 2: claim that he is the best player in the world. Yes,

515
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: but it is not unfair or unreasonable to say you

516
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: have to show it. You have to prove it, and

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Speaker 2: in the NBA that is done in the postseason. It

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Speaker 2: has never been done in the regular season ever. And

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00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: while yo Gets prior to this year had been statistically

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Speaker 2: a very good postseason performer, prior to this year, the

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Speaker 2: worst postseason series of his career by a mile was

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Speaker 2: his one conference finals. That does this change things? Of

523
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: course it does. He was just in a conference finals

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00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: again Lebron against Anthony Davis and was dominant, but this

525
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: idea that, and this is where and now it'll get

526
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: a little Harry Kendrick Perkins brought up the race factor

527
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Speaker 2: of this and did it kind of haphazardly and awkwardly,

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00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: and everyone just killed him for it. But this is

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Speaker 2: where there is an interesting uh comp The one other

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Speaker 2: guy that I can remember that we placed these type

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Speaker 2: of regular season accolades at his feet without him ever

532
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: show going on this type of playoff run was Steve

533
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: Nash and that was a mistake. So it was odd

534
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: and a little uncomfortable that we were doing it. Never

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Speaker 2: goes in this order ever. But now Jokic has a

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Speaker 2: dominant start to finish well, not quite finished, but as

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Speaker 2: far as he could have gone up to this point,

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Speaker 2: playoff run under his belt, the unbelievable regular seasons, and

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00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 2: his biggest liability defense, which is defense he more than

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Speaker 2: held up in this series post game one. Those are

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Speaker 2: the benchmarks to being one of the greatest players ever

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00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: and he's checking them all off. But will I apologize

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00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: for not wanting to let him skip steps? I will not.

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Speaker 2: Does he now have an unimpeachable claim that he's one

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00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: of the top three players in the world? Yes? Is

546
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: he one series away from having an incredibly strong claim

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Speaker 2: that he's the best player in the world. Yes, does

548
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: he maybe already have a decent claim that he's the

549
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: best player in the world. Yes, But I'm not going

550
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: to I am not going to rewrite history on how

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00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: we have always treated anyone that is trying to become

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00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: the guy in the NBA. I'm just not going to

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Speaker 2: do it. Uh, the followup for him, So.

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Speaker 3: You have to root for the Nuggets to win at all?

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00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: Now right?

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Speaker 2: Why would I have to root for the Nuggets to

557
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: win at all? Who? Well? I mean, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: will talk about the heat in the moment the playoff.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy's pretty impressive take quick break talk Heat Celtics. Next

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00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,359
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Speaker 2: Welcome Back. In episode one fifty three, What's Right with

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Speaker 2: Nick Wright? We'd spent the first forty minutes of the

571
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: show on everything Lebron, Lakers, retirement, Nuggets, Lakers, all of it.

572
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: We now have got to do. These are armored finals,

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Speaker 2: which by the time we talk on Thursday, could be

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Speaker 2: over pinning the result of tonight's game. So do you

575
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Speaker 2: go right ahead?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So the Celtics have imploded and even the coach

577
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: is saying that the team is disconnected. Celtics expert Demonse

578
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Speaker 3: Bird also had something to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his tweet that he had here, Yeah, bro,

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00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: go ahead read it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, I honestly got nothing to say about this.

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Speaker 3: The Celtics are lacking a certain household pets.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what he means by that, a certain

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00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: household pet? Like when you read it, do you know

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00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: what he's talking about? No, saying they don't have that

586
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: dog in them. He's such a dopest. I mean, it's

587
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: just such a dope. But I told him the Celtics

588
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: were didn't have it for this series. But go ahead now, uh,

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00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: you can ask me.

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Speaker 3: The question, what's wrong with the Celtics? All right?

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00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, if there was ever a question about does coaching

592
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: matter in the NBA, here's your case study. Best coach

593
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: in the league, worst coach in the league, and it's

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00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: playing it all like that. Jimmy Butler is awesome. I

595
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: think Butler's better than Tatum. I think he's more reliable

596
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: than Tatum in the playoffs. But Jimmy hasn't been the different.

597
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: It is the fact that the Heat are totally connected.

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00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: Everyone knows their job, playing with massive confidence, and the

599
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: Celtics are not the Celtics. Also, the Jalen Brown stuff

600
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: has been simmering all year long and it's now coming

601
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: to a head with him having the two worst playoff

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Speaker 2: games of his adult NBA career in Games two and

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Speaker 2: three of this series. Now, I picked the Heat to

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Speaker 2: win this series. Did I think they were gonna sweep them? No?

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Speaker 2: But does it look like they're gonna get swept now? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And we'll do more of a Celtics post mortem. What

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00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: do they do from here once their season is officially over?

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Speaker 2: But we went so long in that first segment, Let's

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00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: just keep it moving here and we can talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the Heat.

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Speaker 3: So the eight seed Heat are on a legendary run playoff.

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00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: Jimmy has stolen the show. Let's not forget about the

613
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: seven undrafted players on this roster or that coach Spoe

614
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: is running circles around the Celtics. What is the most

615
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: impressive part about this team, all right?

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Speaker 2: It is that the undrafted guys are playing with this

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00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: level of confidence. Duncan Robinson, now that he's Duncan Robinson's

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00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: undrafted got eighty million bucks, then was getting DNP coaches

619
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Speaker 2: decisions for months on end, stepped into his role and

620
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: didn't miss a beat. Struce and Vincent and Caleb Martin

621
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Speaker 2: have been integral pieces of what the Heat have done

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Speaker 2: and their undrafted players. That is Heat culture, that is

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Speaker 2: pat Riley. There's just no way around it. There's no

624
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: denying it, there's no trying to obfuscate what they are anymore.

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00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: They are a special organization with a great head coach,

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00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: a great team president, and a great superstar that just

627
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: imbues confidence in everyone else and Bam when Bam is

628
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: right and rolling and awesome. Number two. Even though He's

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Speaker 2: not great offensively, and so I don't know what more

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Speaker 2: the he'd have to do. They rolled the Bucks, they

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00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 2: rolled the Knicks. They are rolling the Celtics. They are

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00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: eleven and three in this series. The only other thing

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Speaker 2: I want to say about this series is I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about ESPN's BPI, the Basketball Power Index. I've

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Speaker 2: talked about this before in regards to five thirty eight's

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Speaker 2: Basketball Playoff calculator. I do not understand how a massive

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00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: sports media operation can trot something out there that is

638
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: so flagrantly and clearly incorrect and couch it in. This

639
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: is what our analytics, this is what our numbers tell us.

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00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: So ESPN's BPI said this was a ninety seven percent

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00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: chance for the Celtics to win this series. As of

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00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: this moment, they give the Celtics a thirty two percent

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00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: chance to win. So think about that for a moment.

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00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: ESPN's proprietary Basketball Power Index believes that right now the

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00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Celtics are ten times more likely to win a series

646
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Speaker 2: they are down three to zero in which has obviously

647
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Speaker 2: never been done. Then that same algorithm BPI thought the

648
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: Heat were to win the series when it started. That

649
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: is proof of concept that your algo is not any good,

650
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: not because an outlier event happens. Outlier events happen, but

651
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: because any NBA series that your algorithm says is ninety

652
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Speaker 2: seven to three, any singular series you that you can

653
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: put in that says a team has a one in

654
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: thirty three chance of winning means your formula is bunk.

655
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: And why you would not, as a multi billion dollar

656
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: operation say guys, we just got to pull it off

657
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: the market until we can figure out what's wrong with it.

658
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Speaker 2: It's similar to and it is not a shot at

659
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: nikolajokicch I promise, but the Advanced Analytic Defensive box Score

660
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: plus minus says that Nikolajokic is one of the four

661
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: greatest defensive players defensive players in the history of the NBA.

662
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: The moment your formula spits out that result, it is

663
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: proof that your formula is broken. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: how people didn't continue to trot it out there embarrasing.

665
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's irresponsible, because it's not

666
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Speaker 2: important enough to be irresponsible, but it is embarrassing. Uh,

667
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: And so I just I the Heat had the best

668
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: coach in basketball and the best player in the series.

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Speaker 2: I understand why they were underdogs. I understand why you'd

670
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Speaker 2: be surprised that it's three to zero. No one should

671
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Speaker 2: be shocked that this is happening all right, time for

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00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: our game, which is right in the game of right ends,

673
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Speaker 2: all right, go right ahead, scoot So first.

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Speaker 3: One, Carmelo Anthony finally announced his retirement yesterday. Yep, you

675
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Speaker 3: will remember mellow as Oh that's easy.

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00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: I will remember Carmelo as a Syracuse Orangeman or an

677
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: Orange as they are called. Now. Uh, the best one

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Speaker 2: and done in the history of the NCAA and under career.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you what did you write?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: Okay? Uh, I'm gonna give you a short list tried

682
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Speaker 2: to off top my head. Lebron Kareem Mailman, Kobe, Michael, Dirk,

683
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: wilt Shack. Those eight names, that's the entire list of

684
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: people who scored more points in the NBA than Carmelo Anthony.

685
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: He's the ninth all time leading scorer. I understand his

686
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: postseason resume is quite threadbare. Only three postseason series victories.

687
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Speaker 2: There are only a handful of times, though he lost

688
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: as the favorite six first round against the Clippers bad

689
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: one twenty thirteen second round with the Knicks against the Pacers.

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00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: Not a great one, but he rarely was on the

691
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: better team. He had a great chance two thousand and

692
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: nine to make the finals. Lakers Nuggets Game five, Western

693
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, tie game going into the fourth quarter. Carmelo

694
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: scores eleven, Kobe goes zero for five, but the Lakers

695
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: win anyway, and they win Game six, win the title.

696
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: Carmelo was better than Kobe that night to go up

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00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: three to two in the series. His teammates weren't there

698
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: for him, and they that was his best chance. His

699
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: big mistake was instead of just signing with the Knicks,

700
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: demanding to be traded to the Knicks so they didn't

701
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: have the resources to put a championship team around him.

702
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: But still a deserving member of the All seventy five team,

703
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: the greatest men's basketball Olympian ever, NCAA champion. Great score.

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Speaker 2: I love mellow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So next is Lamar. After an endless contract negotiation,

706
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: the Ravens extended Lamar. So all is good, right?

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, sto, you gotta move the board a

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00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: little bit. There you go, no problem, go ahead.

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00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: So so all is good right? Well, reports out of

710
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: Baltimore is that the QB didn't show up for the

711
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: first day of OTAs. Lamar not showing up to OTAs is.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna write and say not great. But so

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00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: here's the thing I actually support. I would support the

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00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: entire league taking off OTAs. We've talked about this four

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00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: I'll do it briefly again. Here. The players in the

716
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: last CBA wanted more money. The owners didn't want to

717
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Speaker 2: give them more money. Instead, they give them less days

718
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: at work, less mandatory offseason days, and then the so

719
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Speaker 2: that players take that instead of getting more money, and

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Speaker 2: then the owner use the media to pressure the players

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Speaker 2: to turn the optionals off season stuff into mandatory. I

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00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: don't like that. It strikes me as unfair. So I

723
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Speaker 2: would understand if nobody showed up, and I support almost

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Speaker 2: any player that doesn't want to show up. You negotiated

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Speaker 2: have this be optional, with the exception of the super

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Speaker 2: high paid quarterbacks. I do think, even though I'm a

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Speaker 2: union guy and a worker not a management guy, if

728
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: you are the face of an organization and paid as such,

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: there are other things that go along with it. There

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Speaker 2: are certain things that are expected of me at FS

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Speaker 2: one that are not expected of Demanse who works for

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Speaker 2: FS one. I'm one of the forward facing people. They

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Speaker 2: pay me a lot of money. Sometimes you got to

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Speaker 2: go above and beyond. So I'm not going to kill

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Speaker 2: Lamar for this, but it's not great. And even though

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Speaker 2: while I would support almost anyone skipping these things, the

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Speaker 2: super high paid quarterbacks probably should be there.

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Speaker 3: Next okay, next one, big Ben Ben Rothlessberger, good job.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did it? Said he hoped Kenny

740
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Speaker 3: Pickett didn't succeed as a rookie. I hope he doesn't

741
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Speaker 3: come ball out, because then it's like Ben who. Ben

742
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Speaker 3: big Ben's comments are.

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Speaker 2: I wrote, they are kind of honest, not entirely honest,

744
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: but kind of honest. They are honest in that I

745
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: do believe that there was an I appreciate the honesty

746
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: of him saying that he didn't want Kenny Pickett to

747
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: come out instantly be awesome. When I'm saying kind of honest,

748
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: it's because he knew no one would ever say Ben who,

749
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Speaker 2: And that's a false humility to it. But I do

750
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Speaker 2: believe that he didn't want Big Ben to instantly I'm sorry,

751
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: can you pick it to instantly come out and kick

752
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Speaker 2: ass all right.

753
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Speaker 3: Next okay, next one is yeah, the NFL agreed that

754
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: they screwed you out of your fifty to one Super

755
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: Bowl bet. Teams will now be allowed to designate an

756
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 3: emergency QB on game days. After we saw CMC and

757
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 3: a one armed rock party in the NFC Title Game.

758
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: If this rule was already in place, your fifty to

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: one Super Bowl ticket would have been.

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Speaker 2: Worth zero dollars. Zero dollars what I wrote, Because they

761
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: weren't gonna win with a fifth string or fourth string quarterback.

762
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: Can I say something about this? This is the most overwrought,

763
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: ridiculous story I can remember the NFL. Let me just

764
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: tell people how it used to be. You have a

765
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster, Forty five guys were active on

766
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: game day, with a forty sixth guy who was your

767
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: emergency third string quarterback who was also semi active on

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00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: game day. You could dress a forty sixth guy if

769
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: he was your third string quarterback, but if he played,

770
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: your other two quarterbacks couldn't go back in. The NFL

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00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: did not get rid of that. They simply said, your

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00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: forty sixth guy can be any position, and you can

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00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: dress forty six guys. On game day. Teams then decided

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Speaker 2: they didn't want to waste one of those forty six

775
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: game day active spots on a third quarterback. And then

776
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: when this thing happened, the entire football media started saying,

777
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: oh my god, why doesn't the NFL let you dress

778
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: a third quarterback. You could dress ten quarterbacks if you

779
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: wanted to. They never changed that.

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00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 3: Try not to blow out your mic again.

781
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: So now all they've done is say, now you can

782
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: have a forty seventh guy dress, and he's gotta be

783
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: a third string quarterback, so be it. But everyone's saying, oh,

784
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: the NFL screwed everyone here. No they didn't. They gave

785
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: teams more choices on what they want to do with

786
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: that forty sixth roster spot, and teams decided we would

787
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: rather have a backup linebacker offensive lineman than a third

788
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: string quarterback. That's their prerogative. But I and by the way,

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Speaker 2: I think most teams are not going to dress a

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Speaker 2: third quarterback for forty seventh game day roster spot because

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00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: that guy's got to be on your active roster and

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: most teams are not gonna have three of their fifty

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00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: three spots on their active roster be quarterbacks. Most teams

794
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: are gonna have their starter, a backup, and a practice

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Speaker 2: squad quarterback. Read your fan questions. Next quick break, what's right?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, episode one fifty. Now we're going to answer

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00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: your listener questions. Sure, go right ahead, Jack Fischker Fisher fish, Okay, whatever,

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Speaker 3: Fisher go ahead?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Said you should people be able to talk about how

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: many undrafted players the Heat have as if it's a

802
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: bad thing if they win at all. The Nuggets aren't

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: untalented just because their best player is a second round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think the undrafted thing with the Heat

805
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: is actually at this point a compliment. I think the

806
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: undrafted like whether people view it as that or not,

807
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: they should. It is a testament to their ability to

808
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: develop talent, identify their guys, identify market inefficiencies, and find

809
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: more than competent NBA role players that forget being second rounders,

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: that are just undrafted players. All right?

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Speaker 3: Next, okay? LJG asked, how is Luca a top twenty

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00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: player in the last fifty years, but Jokic couldn't make

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Speaker 3: the list with just as much playoff success up to

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Speaker 3: that point.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, to be clear, when we did the list,

816
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Speaker 2: Jokic had one MVP, not two. The two MVPs would

817
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Speaker 2: have got him on there. He obviously at this point

818
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Speaker 2: is a top fifty player of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: The two MVPs plus this regular season plus this playoff

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Speaker 2: run makes it undeniable. As far as Luca goes. Watch

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Speaker 2: the Luca video, I explain that he was the one

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Speaker 2: guy on there that we were projecting forward. It was

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Speaker 2: an homage to Shack being on the NBA's fifty best

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Speaker 2: of the first fifty years, even though he'd only played

825
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: in the league for four years. That was the precedent

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Speaker 2: for it that we did with Luca.

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Speaker 3: Next, Okay, next question, Peter Alton's asked, what do you

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Speaker 3: think of the rumors of the Lakers pursuing Trey Young

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Speaker 3: and what could that potential trade package look like.

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Speaker 2: There is no potential trade package where the Lakers could

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Speaker 2: acquire Troy Young. It does not exist. They don't have

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: the picks. That is a nonsense story. In my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I saw that this morning. It is a nonsense story.

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Speaker 3: Next, Jacob Connell asked who has been the player that

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Speaker 3: has individually overachieved the most in the ns in this NBA.

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Speaker 2: Season, individually, overachieved the most gotta be Austin Reeves. And

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Speaker 2: I think Austin Reeves has been outstanding and he's another

838
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Speaker 2: undrafted guy, but he's got himself probably a seventy million

839
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Speaker 2: dollar contract. I don't know if overachieved almost sounds like

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Speaker 2: an insult. It's not meant to be. But it's got

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Speaker 2: to be Austin Reeves. All right, what's the last one?

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Speaker 3: Producer? Dan asked when he comes out to New York

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Speaker 3: next month, do you do you want him to bring

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Speaker 3: a Jokich jersey or do you want another Pap Bab jersey.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know Dan was coming out to New York

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Speaker 2: next month.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you got to watch her back job interview.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I mean, I'm sure it's not to come to

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Speaker 2: this show. I don't know what it would be. I'm

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Speaker 2: not I'm not sure what the what the plan is there? Uh,

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Speaker 2: he says he'll stop by if I'll have him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing, this isn't really my nature and I

853
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: don't like to be this guy. If I'm being honest.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that's probably going to solve this fissure

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Speaker 2: in me and Dan's relationship.

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Speaker 3: Is if he becomes no, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: About that is, if the Heat end up beating the Nuggets,

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Speaker 2: and if I get my get back via text at

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Speaker 2: his lowest moment, because.

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Speaker 3: He says that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing for the Nuggets right now. The Nuggets

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: and their fans. I don't know if they'll admit this,

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: but they feel like they won the championship, not because

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01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 2: all beating the Lakers is more than a but because they,

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: like everyone else, are going to underestimate the Heat. The

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01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: Nuggets and their fans. I'm certain we're rooting against Boston,

867
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: rooting against Milwaukee, thrilled to see all these big dogs

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01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: fall off, saying, oh my god, how lucky we earned

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01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: the one seed. We had a smooth path to the

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Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals. We then rolled the Lakers, and now

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna roll Miami. They are counting their championship. Let's

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01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: see what playoff Jimmy does. If play off Jimmy rips

873
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: the Nuggets heart out and I am able to exact

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01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: revenge on producer Dan, then he can come by this show.

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: If not, then I just assume never actually meet him.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, listen, that's just that is who I am.

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Speaker 2: I have no regrets about that, and we'll see how

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Speaker 2: it goes. I think the Heat win tonight. I think

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Speaker 2: we have nine days between the end of the conference

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Speaker 2: finals in the NBA Finals, and I think even though

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Speaker 2: it's not the Marquis Lakers Celtics Finals, a lot of

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Speaker 2: us thought we were getting. I think it'll be a

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Speaker 2: great series. Talk to you guys on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: What's right, he's still sweeping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,