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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. We have an amazing show for everybody today.

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Speaker 1: What do we have, Crystal. Indeed, we do, obviously lots

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Speaker 1: and lots of big news, starting with that monumental, era

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 1: response on both sides of this issue is extremely telling.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans are saying, what's next? How do we get

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Speaker 1: to that nationwide ban? How do we even in states

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Speaker 1: like Texas and Missouri where we already have the bands

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Speaker 1: in place, how do we go even further and make

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Speaker 1: sure that women can't go out in a state to

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Speaker 1: get abortions? Also, how do we crack down on abortion pills?

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Speaker 1: How do we you know, in states that have a

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Speaker 1: fifteen week ban, how do we push forward for the

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Speaker 1: six week ban? They are focused on what's the next step,

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Speaker 1: what's the next action? How do we organize to get there?

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Speaker 1: Public opinion be damned by the way, And I think

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Speaker 1: that's important too, because there's been a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: on the left about popularism and all this sort of stuff. Listen,

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Speaker 1: they don't care if it's popular or not. They care

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Speaker 1: about their agenda and they're going to do it come

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Speaker 1: hell or high water. They're going to figure out the

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Speaker 1: lever to use power to get done what they want

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Speaker 1: to get done. And the response on the Democratic side

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Speaker 1: is like chip in fifteen dollars to send more them.

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Speaker 1: We like, you're already there and you didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: So what's going to be different this time around? No plan,

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Speaker 1: no strategy, no nothing. Even though again Democrats have the

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Speaker 1: people on their side. They have certainly in the Democratic

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Speaker 1: base on their side, but they also have independence on

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Speaker 1: their side and twenty two percent of Republicans on their

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Speaker 1: side too in terms of how they feel about this decision.

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Speaker 1: And yet is there any grand strategy to, you know,

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Speaker 1: try to roll these things back, to try to get

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Speaker 1: the other side on the defense. No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: I see that as a major political failure. I really do,

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Speaker 1: especially because, like I was saying, these proliferation, these groups

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Speaker 1: like Ultra Violet, why were they spending time trying to

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Speaker 1: cancel Joe Rogan three months ago? I knew this decision

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Speaker 1: was coming, so did you. We talked about it here

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Speaker 1: the day that the court accepted it. I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy's like from what I'm hearing, you know,

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Speaker 1: it pretty much says Roe is dead. Why are these

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Speaker 1: organizations spending time talking about pregnant people and you know,

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Speaker 1: making a laughing stock of themselves by picking fights with

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Speaker 1: other liberal groups or tweeting out clips of Joe Rogan

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Speaker 1: when they should have been doing this. So I think

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Speaker 1: it does show a fundamental lack of seriousness. As you said,

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Speaker 1: say what you want about the fed sock, but like

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Speaker 1: they knew what they were doing over the last forty

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Speaker 1: years organized and the Catholic groups for Life and all

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Speaker 1: these people. They spend a lot of money and they

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Speaker 1: draw a lot of attention. I mean, I remember, I

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Speaker 1: think it was under Trump there was a justice who

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Speaker 1: had not even said she was pro choice, but had

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Speaker 1: not been like wholesale like I'm one hundred percent pro life,

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Speaker 1: and they almost vetoed her actually to make sure that

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Speaker 1: she didn't get onto the I believe it was the

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Speaker 1: DC Circuit Court. This caused like a big brewha in

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Speaker 1: Republican politics. I don't see any level of seriousness sens

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Speaker 1: on that level of organized opposition. All these girls that

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Speaker 1: were supposed to be there to push Biden left, like, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: just jokeing. I mean, they've just disappeared. They really have.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that I don't know that it's

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the issue, but I do think

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is this like cia op that

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Speaker 1: has cased progressives has spent all their time fighting with

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Speaker 1: each other and like, you know, deciding who's the real

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Speaker 1: progressive and who's woken off rather than actually pushing any

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Speaker 1: sort of mission or agenda forward and lets Democrats get

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Speaker 1: off the hook, I mean. And so now you do

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Speaker 1: have maybe a little bit of an awakening of some

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Speaker 1: liberals of just the extent of the failure, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and the rot on the Democratic side. Does that turn

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Speaker 1: into anything? I have no idea, but it is kind

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Speaker 1: of an interesting moment in terms of Democrats grappling with

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Speaker 1: how we got here. Let's talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about the politics. Kamala Harris had a big sit down

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Speaker 1: interview yesterday with Dana Bash and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats we talked yesterday about how a

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Speaker 1: lot of the Democratic base is really waking up to

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Speaker 1: just how failed Democrats have been over the past fifty years.

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Speaker 1: And preparing for this moment or even consider you know,

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration kind of got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a head start on this, since the draft was leaked,

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Speaker 1: we all knew this was coming. They had quite a

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Speaker 1: bit of time to prepare some kind of a response,

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Speaker 1: and they got nothing, you know, any idea that anyone

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Speaker 1: puts forward of Hey, let's get rid of the philibust

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Speaker 1: lit codify. I wrote, Hey, how about we you know,

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Speaker 1: what about we could put something Elizabeth warrensyte, we could

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Speaker 1: put clinics on federal lands. What about these justices that

518
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Speaker 1: lie during their confirmation hearing? Should we do something about that?

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Speaker 1: One after another, it's just like, oh, we're really upset

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Speaker 1: and give us fifteen dollars. Are you going to do anything? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: not so much. Here's one example of that with Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris and Dana Bash. Can the administration expand abortion access

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Speaker 1: or abortion services on federal land, meaning provide the access

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Speaker 1: on federal land that might be in and around states

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Speaker 1: that ban abortion. I think that what is most important

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Speaker 1: right now is that we ensure that the restrictions of

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Speaker 1: the states are trying to put up that would prohibit

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Speaker 1: a woman from exercising. What we still maintain is her

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Speaker 1: right that we do everything we can to empower women

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Speaker 1: to not only seek but to receive the care where

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Speaker 1: it is available. Is a federal land one of those options.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not right now what we are discussing,

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Speaker 1: but I will say that when I think about what

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Speaker 1: is happening in terms of the States, we have to

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Speaker 1: also recognize, Dana, that we are one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: odd days away from an election, which is going to

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Speaker 1: include Senate races. Right. Part of the issue here is

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Speaker 1: that the Court has acted. Now Congress needs to act.

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Speaker 1: But we if you count the votes, don't appear to

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Speaker 1: have the votes in the Senate. Well what do you

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Speaker 1: think of that, Crystal? I mean, personally, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a I think it's an idea that is worth exploring.

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Speaker 1: And you know, to the broader point, issue an idea

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Speaker 1: after idea after idea, they just say, now, we can't

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Speaker 1: do that, Now we won't do that. And yet they

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Speaker 1: somehow want the Democratic base to believe that if you

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Speaker 1: put them back in power in the fall, that things

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Speaker 1: are going to be different, and there's just no evidence

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Speaker 1: whatsoever that that's the case. So you can't send out

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Speaker 1: these fundraising miss have send us fifteen dollars so we

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Speaker 1: can protect row and so that we can overturn this

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Speaker 1: r president. And then every idea that's brought to you

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Speaker 1: is you shoot it down for one reason or another,

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Speaker 1: or you say, as she did, there not even look,

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Speaker 1: I'd respect it more of they said, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a good idea for X and Y and Z. Reason. No,

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Speaker 1: it's we're not even really thinking about that. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean on that particular proposal, I'm pretty sure we'll

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Speaker 1: just get defunded and there's no way that would get

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Speaker 1: funded by the Senate. So I do think that the

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Speaker 1: core pointer on the Senate is important. But look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to the point that we talked about earlier, there is

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Speaker 1: no actual real plan that I've seen from the Democrats

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Speaker 1: yet beyond give us some money, and to do that,

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to win elections and you need

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Speaker 1: to look, I honestly don't think it would be that difficult.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Louisiana, for example, does have that pro life

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Speaker 1: governor John Bell Edwards. I don't actually see anybody even

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Speaker 1: talking about that, even though he's a Democrat, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of mystifying to me same whenever it comes on

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Speaker 1: terms of codifying it at a national level. I mean

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Speaker 1: that really they need to present a plan they've talked previously.

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Speaker 1: I mean, actually, you know, I guess Elizabeth Warren is

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Speaker 1: the only person I've even said this or seen say this. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to pick up these two seats Pennsylvania and

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin that would give us enough votes in order to

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Speaker 1: end the filibuster in the case of this particular vote.

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Speaker 1: And we could do that, but I haven't heard that

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Speaker 1: yet from President Vitra. If you believe in that, then

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Speaker 1: you should run on it. So this is there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of dishonesty. I think that is happening on the

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Speaker 1: political fallout point from the right, as we predicted in

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Speaker 1: the preview yesterday. Let's put this up there on the

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Speaker 1: screen here. In Virginia, Abigail span Burger in a districtors

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about in a second, which is very much

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Speaker 1: a toss up for the Democrats. She was running in

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Speaker 1: a very tight race. Yasilly Vega, who's the Republican nominee

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Speaker 1: against Abigail span Burger. Here's what she had to say

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Speaker 1: at an event in Stafford County in Stafford County, say

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Speaker 1: she said, quote, I've actually heard it's harder for a

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Speaker 1: woman to get pregnant if she's been raped. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard that she was asked this and then she responded, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe because there's so much going on the body. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't you seen any studies I'm processing

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. It wouldn't surprise it's not something that's

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Speaker 1: happening organically. You're forcing it. The individual is not. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I can't even continue reading this, which just look, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Toddak and Vibes. It just shows you the spot that

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Speaker 1: a lot of these people are in. They have to

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Speaker 1: juggle extraordinarily religious voters at the primary level, and also

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Speaker 1: not sound fricking crazy. I mean, this is something where look,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take a genius or reproductive health expert in

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Speaker 1: order to tell you that there's no validity to what

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Speaker 1: she's saying, But it is a preview of exactly the

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Speaker 1: problems that the GOP will face down ballot now for

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Speaker 1: a long time. And it exactly shows your there's no

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Speaker 1: claim on the show that's going to lead to some

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Speaker 1: blue wave come November. But put this up there in

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Speaker 1: terms of the Cook Political Report and their toss up races.

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Speaker 1: You know, Spanberger is right there in the toss up category.

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Speaker 1: There are twenty three races that are right on the edge.

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Speaker 1: Henry Quaar's district. It was an example there because you

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Speaker 1: were telling me that she's still probably going to win

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Speaker 1: this Republican lady, given what's happened with me. Well, a districting,

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Speaker 1: but who I looked into me, I mean, yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 1: It's actually my district now I've been redistricted into this one.

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Speaker 1: So it's a choice of a former CIA and this

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Speaker 1: lady who was actually a cop. Oh so yeah, this

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Speaker 1: all came up because she brought up the fact, seeming

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Speaker 1: again to downplay that getting pregnant from rape was a thing.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I've only dealt with one instance like this

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Speaker 1: in my career in law enforcement, and that's what led

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Speaker 1: to this exchange. Or whoever she's talking to is like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Is that? Like is

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Speaker 1: it less common? And then she goes, well, I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen any studies, but yeah, that kind of makes sense

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Speaker 1: to me. Anyway. It's a D plus one district. That

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Speaker 1: means that the district votes on average one point more

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Speaker 1: democratic than the nation as a whole. I would say

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Speaker 1: that's going to be very tough sledding in this particular year. Now, Listen,

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Speaker 1: you always have an advantage when you're in covent and

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Speaker 1: you have another advantage when you have your opponents saying

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Speaker 1: things like this. But I will also say that at

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Speaker 1: the congressional level, the house level, it's very hard to

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Speaker 1: break apart from sort of whatever the national trends are. Now,

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Speaker 1: if it's a Senate candidate like Todd Aichen was, for example,

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Speaker 1: gubernatorial candidate's a statewide race, you've got more media, you've

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Speaker 1: got more money, you've got more media attention like earned media.

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Speaker 1: Then candidate quality and some of the crazy things they're

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Speaker 1: saying can make more of a difference. At the house level,

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Speaker 1: it's hard. It's mostly just people are voting based on

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Speaker 1: whatever the national wins are. Really doesn't matter how people

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Speaker 1: position themselves, what they're saying, et cetera, et cetera. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be tough for Abigail Spanberger,

645
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Speaker 1: but ultimately we'll see. I mean, one of the other

646
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Speaker 1: races that is going to be really critical here is

647
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Speaker 1: the I mean, there's a few of them. I actually

648
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: think the gubernatorial races, it's going to be really interesting

649
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: to see how this impacts things at the state level

650
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: because there are such clear stakes in this fight now

651
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: since it has been kicked to the state level. So

652
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania perfect example. You have Republicans have nominated to someone

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Speaker 1: who is extreme on everything, including abortion, you know, wants

654
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Speaker 1: to ban it outright in a swing state, and so

655
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: far the race has been pretty close. The Democrat Joshapiro,

656
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: has been up inside the margin by a few points,

657
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: but more or less inside the margin of error. So

658
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: this is one that you know, if it was if

659
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Speaker 1: there wasn't row and if Republicans had nominated someone who

660
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Speaker 1: is more moderate, they would probably win this seat. Now

661
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: you'd have to say that Democrats will probably win this seat.

662
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: And again the stakes are quite high, not only for

663
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Speaker 1: abortion but also as we've discussed on Stop the Steal Insanity,

664
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Speaker 1: where this dude is a total nut job on those

665
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Speaker 1: issues as well, and would be able to appoint a

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Speaker 1: secretary of State. So I think at the gubernatorial level

667
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Speaker 1: you may see more of a shift towards Democrats candidate

668
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: by candidate than you see at the federal level. And

669
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Speaker 1: certainly at the House level, where it's hard to distinguish yourself.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting too to think about this in the Obama context,

671
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: which is what is it. A thousand state legislature seats

672
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: went Republican under Barack Obama. People really do forget this,

673
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: but the country became very red at the state level

674
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Speaker 1: under Obama as part of that backlash. He was always

675
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: fine in terms of getting himself elected, but for down

676
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: ballot it was kind of a disaster, both our Senate

677
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: and yes, especially for every other level of the Democroduct party.

678
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Speaker 1: And if you consider the state legislature, Republicans do have

679
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Speaker 1: a major advantage. They've been concentrating a lot of their

680
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: efforts there for decades now. So this actually brings me

681
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: back to the Fedsock point it made yesterday. The organizing

682
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: level on that down ballot in terms of fundraising, knowledge,

683
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: attention here in Washington seems very very lacking compared to

684
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Speaker 1: the gops. Well, and I do want to go back

685
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: to the discussion we're having Abou Kamala Harri and Joe Biden,

686
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: and you know, all like, yes, there are barriers to

687
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: them doing everything they would or could or should do,

688
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: or what the base wants them to do. But contrast

689
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: their posture versus the Republican posture. Republicans didn't look at

690
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: the polling or the you know what numbers they had

691
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: at that moment in the House or the senator state

692
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: legislation saying, ah, nothing we can do. And even now

693
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: they're not saying we want nothing more we can do.

694
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Speaker 1: They find a way to get done what they want

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00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: to get done. Democrats have this, first of all, they

696
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: have an allergy to governing right. Second of all, they

697
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: have and Obama's notorious for this. They have this view

698
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: of politics like it's totally static, Like nothing can move,

699
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: minds can be arms can't be twisted, nobody's minds can

700
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: be changed. Like the votes are what the votes are,

701
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: and that's that. And you know, if we've got the

702
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: filibuster in place today, there's nothing we can do about it.

703
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: And they they have this idea that they are completely

704
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: powerless to change the dynamics of the political landscape. And so,

705
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'll give you one example of

706
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: something they could do that doesn't even have to do

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00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: with abortion. But Clarence Thomas in his Justice Thomas and

708
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: his concurring opinion said, Hey, I think we should come

709
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: for marriage equality and contraception and gay intimacy. Next, Okay, well,

710
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: what's stopping you Democrats from codifying gay marriage into law.

711
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Speaker 1: I mean that would be a very tough vote for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: How would Republicans fall on that in the Senate? Sure?

713
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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? So idea. Yeah I don't either. And

714
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Speaker 1: it's very possible that you actually could get to sixty

715
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: votes for gay marriage in the Senate because of how

716
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Speaker 1: much the politics have shifted on that issue. And if

717
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you don't, then you have, you know, in Stone where

718
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: these people actually stand on an issue that they don't

719
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: really want to say anything about. So just as one

720
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: example of something that they could potentially do that would

721
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: it is not going to do anything about abortion RTE,

722
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: but at least it will help to protect another existing

723
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: right that very much seems to be on the table now.

724
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Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm not impressed with their feigned impotence,

725
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: their total lack of creativity, their unwillingness to sort of

726
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: rise up and meet the moment, and their constant, constant

727
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: obsession with basically finding excuses to do absolutely nothing, keeping

728
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: an eye on inflation and look it's always better to

729
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: try and connect it to something that everybody's been experience

730
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: in their daily life. So let's go ahead and put

731
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Speaker 1: this up there on the screen. July fourth barbecue season

732
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: is here. People are getting ready, and the inflation index

733
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Speaker 1: on this. We did this in Thanksgiving and I remember

734
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Speaker 1: being shocked to the numbers. Then now we're talking about

735
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Speaker 1: July fourth, Well, the price it will be up as

736
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Speaker 1: much as thirty six percent. It is led by beef,

737
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Speaker 1: but grocery costs for the Independence Day party are rising

738
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Speaker 1: the most since the Farm Bureau began even tracking all

739
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: of the day. So ground beef prices are up thirty

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Speaker 1: six percent. Chicken breast has actually also gone up by

741
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Speaker 1: an entire third. People can expect to spend seventeen percent

742
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: more on food across the board for the barbecue, the

743
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: biggest increase since people began tracking. And in twenty twenty one,

744
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: the cost of the Independence Day cookout actually declined by

745
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: about one percent. But since then, obviously things have skyrocketed.

746
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: They can't blame this one on Putin, and when you

747
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: look at it, it really is insane. So ground beef,

748
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: chicken both above thirty pork and beans also up at

749
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Speaker 1: thirty three percent, center cut pork chops thirty one percent,

750
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: fresh squeeze lemonade twenty two percent. How is lemonade up

751
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty percent? What's happening? Potato salad twenty percent, hamburger bun

752
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: sixteen percent, vanilla ice cream ten percent, thirteen ounce bag

753
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: of chocolate chip cookies seven percent. Strawberries are down sixty Wow.

754
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the strawberry farmers. I know what's

755
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: going on there. Sliced cheese is actually down thirteen I

756
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: yuess that's a I guess it's a good thing, depending

757
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: on what type of cheese you're buying. And potato chips

758
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: are relatively flat. So not sure what's going on in

759
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: the lemonade markets. I should do a deep dive into

760
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: exactly what's going on there. But I do think that

761
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: just focusing on the most basic areas of life where

762
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: stuff is getting more expensive, is something that our government lacks.

763
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Speaker 1: And you know, you and I have noticed with great

764
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Speaker 1: interest our airline segments are doing phenomenally, and I was like, huh,

765
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Speaker 1: you know, like why, like why are people so interested?

766
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Speaker 1: Anytime I see something unexpected pop, I'm like, wow, that's interesting,

767
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's because a lot of people are flying.

768
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday was a TSA record over the last

769
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: two years, and like, hey, this shit is crazy, this

770
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: is crazy. This stuff is canceled all the time. I

771
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: saw a story of a guy who's connecting via Europe

772
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Air Canada just canceled as a connection. They said, oh,

773
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: you have another flight two days from now, and there's

774
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: no they're not taking phone and there's a three hour

775
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: line at the airport. That's nuts, I mean, in terms

776
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Speaker 1: of the disruption to daily life. People are wanting to

777
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: visit their parents, people are flying internationally, people are finally

778
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: going vacation for the first time. It's a total disaster.

779
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Lots of reports about honeymoon couples who had booked travel

780
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: and they're losing one, two, three whole days in order

781
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Speaker 1: to travel. Nightmares. This is not a well ordered society.

782
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Speaker 1: And another area where I'm looking at this is cars.

783
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Speaker 1: Let's throw this up there on the screen. The cost

784
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Speaker 1: of finance a new car right now is at six

785
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month, and auto shoppers are actually going

786
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: to have to pay even more because of the Federal

787
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: reserve rate hike. So new car prices not only are

788
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: up thirteen percent and used car up sixteen percent according

789
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: to the latest data. But the point seventy five percent

790
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: basis pump, the seventy five basis point bump is actually

791
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Speaker 1: going to increase the average auto loan to five percent

792
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Speaker 1: over seventy months, meaning that just for a basic average car,

793
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: you're paying six hundred and fifty per month. Then you

794
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: consider gas. I've already run the numbers on that. Depending

795
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: on where you live, it's anywhere between two hundred and

796
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: fifty to three hundred dollars a month. So now you're

797
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: looking at one thousand bucks if you consider insurance depending

798
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: on the type of car, and more, let's call it

799
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Speaker 1: two hundred maybe you know, on average, depending on who

800
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: you are, family all of it. If you have a

801
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: family here, especially those, but if you're a single person.

802
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, now we're talking about twelve hundred and fifty

803
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: hunred dollars just for a basic brand new car or

804
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: even for a used car. These that's a lot of

805
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: the bundest car numbers are not much lower by forty

806
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: six for used cars versus six fifty six. Since when

807
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: has that ever happened in history? When terms of the

808
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: used car, I tell you, look, my jeep just got

809
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: into an accident, and they're like, ohyah, it's going to

810
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: take a long time in order to try and fix this.

811
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: There's no parts for all of this. The bills are

812
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: astronaut luckily insurance covering it because some lady came and

813
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: hit the jeep. But look, I mean this is it's

814
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: difficult for people who are out there. Not everybody can't

815
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Speaker 1: afford it. Also, you know, just track going without a

816
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: car for like an entire month while you're waiting for

817
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: it to get fixed in the shop. Yeah, I mean possible,

818
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: especially given the shit status of public transit in almost

819
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: all of the country, like New York, like the only exception.

820
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to score with regards to

821
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Speaker 1: the cost of financing a vehicle. This is the intent,

822
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: the explicit intent of the FED lifting rates. This is

823
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: what they want, this is their goal. And again, I mean,

824
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: we've discussed this, but it's so important to underscore that

825
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: because our political system has failed and is unable to

826
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Speaker 1: deal with some of the other underlying issues, the supply

827
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: chain issues. Because Biden's committed to keeping the war in

828
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Ukraine going forever, it all falls to the FED. And

829
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: what the FED can do and what they're being pushed

830
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: to do by Biden and by Republicans have the same desires,

831
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: is to make it much more difficult for you to

832
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: do things like buy a car, buy a house, to

833
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: hit your bank account. Okay, to lower your wages. I

834
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: mean they explicitly said this, to lower your wages and

835
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: to hike unemployment. We did that segment about how Larry

836
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: Summers is saying we need ten percent unemployment for a year,

837
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: ten percent casually like just like like, you're not talking

838
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: about millions of people's lives and livelihoods, and as you

839
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: always rightly point out, people will literally die because of

840
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: that pain and depression from losing their livelihood. That's this

841
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: is the sign that you know, the policy that they

842
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: are trying to implement here, the goal of it, which

843
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: is to hurt you, is working. And the really scary

844
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: thing though, is that it may not even work to

845
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Speaker 1: get inflation under control, because as I just said, there

846
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of other factors that are going in

847
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Speaker 1: and in fact, you know, the stimulus that was given

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Speaker 1: the American people, which, as I pointed out to Bill Maher,

849
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: was much less than what was given to Wall Street

850
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: and corporate America. But but the stimulus that was given

851
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: to working class people that's mostly burned off. I mean,

852
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: we haven't had a new stimulus program in what fifteen months.

853
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: It's been a long time. People's bank accounts are down,

854
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: credit card debt is high, as high as it has

855
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: ever been in history. So we are now dealing with

856
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: a problem that doesn't exist, and the other things that

857
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: are festering that are keeping inflation high we're doing nothing about.

858
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Look again, to go back to democratic impotence here, Yes,

859
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: in certain ways they have political constraints, There's no doubt

860
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: about it. But just take the example of after the

861
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: stock market crash in nineteen twenty nine, Congress held a

862
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: series of hearings called the Pacora Hearings, where they investigated

863
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: Wall Street to see how the hell this happened, and

864
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: lo and behold, it wasn't just the all knowing market

865
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: and it had a hiccup whatever. There were wrongdoers there

866
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: who were intentionally fleecing regular people, getting them into the

867
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: stock market. They introduced oh you can buy this on margin,

868
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: just outright fleecing consumers, lying to them about what the

869
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: risks were, and then betting on the other side is

870
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: exactly the same thing that happened in the housing financial

871
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: in the crash there as well, where they knew these

872
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: were bad investments, they're betting on the other side of

873
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: it and screwing over the very customers that they claim

874
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: to be serving. This all came out in the core hearings.

875
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: Guess what politics isn't static. When the public learned the

876
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: way that they had been screwed over, there was a

877
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: massive outcry for financial regulation, and some of the bedrock

878
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: financial regulation that made banking a relatively safe and stable

879
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: and boring enterprise for a lot of years, for decades

880
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: until basically the Clintons came along, was implemented during that

881
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: time because there was something exposed that was so deeply

882
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: shocking and outrageous to the public that they would not

883
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: let the politician stand by and do nothing. Where is

884
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: that energy? How, where's that energy? How to do something

885
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: about this? So even if you don't have the votes

886
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: right at this second, that doesn't mean that you cannot

887
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: do anything, that you are completely helpless, that you can't

888
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: move things forward. And especially listen, the power of the

889
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: bully pulpit is very powerful. If you call these you know,

890
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: corporate CEOs who are intentionally hiking up their prices because

891
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: they can because their monopolies. You call them before Congress,

892
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: you call them to account. That in and of itself

893
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: cools things down in terms of corporations jacking up prices

894
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: because they don't want to be the next one that

895
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: is the subject of a public eyr. Yeah, nearly one

896
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: third of inflation is actually expectations. So being able in

897
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: order to set expectations in a different direction by the government,

898
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: you know, either talking specifically about what they're going to do,

899
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: or calling people out, or even looking at ways in

900
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: order to ease supply. I mean, I think it's telling

901
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: that it took children starving from lack of baby formula

902
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: for the government to invoke the DPA, and that took months.

903
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: But look, it's not as dire, but it's still bad

904
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 1: when people can barely afford to live and to work.

905
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at an article that just came

906
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: out this morning about all of the macro data tells

907
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: us that people are cutting back significantly on quality of life.

908
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Is they're pulling their kids out of summer camps or

909
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: not pursuing activities that they're extracurriculous for their children, driving less,

910
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: cutting off of any sort of driving, cutting down any

911
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: sort of vacation that had already been planned, eating out less. Look,

912
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: you don't have a right to eat out, but you

913
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: know it's nice. So for people it eases the burden

914
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: sometimes whenever you want to. Sometimes it's fun in order

915
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: to change things up on a Saturday set. Those are

916
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: the first things in order to go for a lot

917
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: of people. And the cost of eggs, you know, even

918
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: is up seventy five percent in a year. That's crazy

919
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: you consider all of these price increases on the aggregate,

920
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, when you're looking

921
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: at your credit card bill, you know another for a

922
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: thing I was going to tell people, go and look

923
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: at some of your old Amazon purchases or past purposes

924
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: from like five years ago on basics like paper towels,

925
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: and you'll be shocked at how much more you're paying.

926
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: And it's like people can see that, they feel it viscerally.

927
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: That is, if Biden I would be I would be

928
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: talking about gas and cars and food every single day.

929
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: That's all I would spend my time on. And yet

930
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing a whole monologue on this. They're

931
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: proposing yet another inflationary move in order to stick it

932
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: to Russia, which is probably not even going to work.

933
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: It's I can't get my minds around these politicians. I

934
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: don't know what they do all day. Yeah, I really don't. Yeah.

935
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: And they have the American people ready to hear this message. Yes,

936
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: you know about Wall Street speculation, about corporate americath greed,

937
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: and it's it's not the whole picture, but it's a

938
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: part of the picture. So tell that story, call themto account,

939
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: do something instead of just saying what can we do?

940
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: The baby formula thing is interesting because you know, up

941
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: to a point they were dragging their dollar. There's how

942
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: much we can do and blah blah blah. And then

943
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: once it got to a point, oh guess what they

944
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: figured out how to do something. Isn't that interesting? Oh yeah,

945
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: you do almost love to see it. All right, let's

946
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: talk about NATO. So some seismic moves being made across

947
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: the pond. Let's go and put this up there on

948
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: the screen. So President Airdowan of Turkey has lifted his

949
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: hold on Finland in Sweden, joining NATO. He announced that

950
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: at the recent NATO summit in Spain that happened yesterday.

951
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: So what he said is that he will be lifting

952
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: he will be lifting his hold because Sweden and Finland

953
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: lifted some restrictions on a Turkish group, on a Kurdish

954
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: group which he claims as a foreign terrorist organization. That's

955
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: not for here right now of discussion, but anyway, that's

956
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: all you need to know. He was the only person

957
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: who was holding it up, and now he's allowing them in.

958
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: And so NATO has formally extended an invitation to both

959
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: Turkey and to Sweden and to Finland. Now it leaves

960
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: it up to all of the NATO countries themselves in

961
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: order to ratify the NATO Treaty and allow their ascension

962
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: of which is very likely to happen without any debate whatsoever. Now,

963
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: I actually do think the more noteworthy piece to me

964
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: is not even that it is the current expansion of

965
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: the US military footprint in Eastern Europe. People are not

966
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: discussing this, but this is a seismic change, to put

967
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: it up there on the screen. So President Biden in

968
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: his speech at NATO, here's what he said. We are

969
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: going to establish a permanent military headquarters for the fifth

970
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: Army Corps in Poland, one of the most forward deployed

971
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: permanent arm army deployments of the United States, all the

972
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: way up near the Russian border. Number two maintain an

973
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: additional rotational brigade of three thousand troops in Romania, even

974
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: more forward deployed than the troops who are in Poland,

975
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: and then enhance rotational deployments to the Baltic States, obviously

976
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: the most cutting edge of the NATO Alliance. On top

977
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: of that, sending more f thirty five jet squadrons to

978
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom, additional air defense and other capabilities in

979
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Germany and in Italy, and then two new destroyers to

980
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: the Naval Air State to the naval station in Spain.

981
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: So a massive buildup of new military equipment and of

982
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: military deployment which is permanently deployed, not temporary, towards the

983
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: eastern European flank, right up against the Russians. Let's also

984
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: throw this up there on the screen. Here's what they claim,

985
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: just so you know. They say, we now have many

986
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: allies spending above NATO's benchmark of two percent, increasingly seen

987
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: a floor, not a ceiling. The White House says nine

988
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: allies will be two percent this year. Nineteen have clear

989
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: plans to meet it by twenty twenty four. Five more

990
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: have commitments to meet it later. So another way of

991
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: reading that is that the vast majority of the people

992
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: in NATO are not paying they're two percent on defense,

993
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: and that five of them are think that we are

994
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: such jokes that they don't even have to fake commit

995
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: to a two percent defense spending. They're just like, yeah,

996
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: for sure, we'll eventually we'll get there. And America's like,

997
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: oh cool, all right, we'll continue to, you know, blow

998
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: out our military budget like four percent of GDP, and

999
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: we'll put all these troops in your country and all

1000
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: these nuclear weapons and the umbrella and air defense, and

1001
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. If you eventually get there, it's

1002
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: all good. Finland and Sweden, you know, Sweden won't even

1003
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: commit actually to two percent in perpetuity. They also promise

1004
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: they'll get there. I'm sure they'll get NATO membership before

1005
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: that they do that. Finland is the same thing. And look,

1006
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: I just think in general it's a seismic move. It

1007
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: is somewhat predictable given the invasion. Actually said this, I think,

1008
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, the day after I was like, look, you know,

1009
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: I was wrong Putin would invade. Part of the reason

1010
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: I didn't think he would do it is because he's

1011
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: now united the entire West, and now he's basically guaranteed

1012
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: American and NATO troops on the eastern flank of NATO

1013
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: and all the way up to the Russian border, which

1014
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: is what he claimed that he didn't want. He's united

1015
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: and increased military budgets of the entire He got the

1016
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: French to spend more money on the military. I mean,

1017
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: that's an impossible task. The Germans, you know, also committing

1018
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: now to two percent. They were at one point four

1019
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: one point six for a long time. The UK spending

1020
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: more than they ever have at a certain point. Politically,

1021
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: this is a FATA compley. I hate to say it.

1022
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: I think we should have a much more robust debate.

1023
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: But I don't see any way that sixty seven people

1024
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: in the Senate that there's less than Yeah, I don't

1025
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: see any way that there are less than sixty seven votes.

1026
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Basically every member of the Senate supports it. I do

1027
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: think we should add a debate and like, hey, you know,

1028
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: is this wise? Like is this could this trigger more problems?

1029
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: With Russia. Is you know, I actually think we should

1030
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: take a page out of the turks books. I'm not

1031
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: saying that their demands of Finland and Sweden were just,

1032
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: but they were like, hey, we have something it's important

1033
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: to us, so unless you give it to us, we're

1034
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: not going to give you NATO membership in the West.

1035
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, we'll just give it to you whatever

1036
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: you want. It's like, oh, I didn't know that Helsinki

1037
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: and Stockholm have a right to the US nuclear umbrella

1038
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: just whenever they request it, and they ask for it

1039
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: like there's no debate in our country. It is. Is

1040
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: it thorough indictment of our political system and our media

1041
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: class that this is happening with next to no discussion,

1042
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: next to no discussion, and you know, it's echoes of

1043
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: the way that NATO expansion has worked over decades, where

1044
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: this is done casually, there's next to no debate. The

1045
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: people who are out there warning that this could go

1046
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: badly are treated as cranks and you know, crumlin apologists

1047
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I'm sure they'll come at me

1048
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: for this well, of course, of course, but the reality

1049
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: is this is an extraordinarily significant development, not just the

1050
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: addition of Sweden and Finland, but also as you point to,

1051
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Bloomberg phrased this as this addition of troops

1052
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: and bases in all of this capacity to NATO, they say,

1053
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: NATO returns to combat stance to counter a new and

1054
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: hostile world. This is the biggest upgrade of NATO's military

1055
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: presence in Europe since the end of the Cold War.

1056
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: And you just always have to ask yourself, how is

1057
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: Russia going to perceive that? How is Russia going to

1058
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: react to that. The more that we make this war

1059
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: an existential threat to Russia, the more dangerous we make

1060
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: the landscape, and the more likely we make it that

1061
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: they use nukes. They in their nuclear doctrine say that

1062
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: it is justified to use nuclear weapons in the event

1063
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: of an existential threat to Russia, which they define all

1064
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: of with Jay defined the however they want exactly Every

1065
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: move that we are making here makes it more likely

1066
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: that they interpret the stakes of this war as an

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00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: existential matter for Russia. And that is a potential disaster

1068
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: and no one is talking about it. I mean, we're

1069
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: just this was our fear from the beginning, that we're

1070
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: just sleepwalking through this thing. No one is really dealing

1071
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: with its series. No one's considering, Okay, what might Russia

1072
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: do in response? And in fact, Russia is already warning

1073
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: Putin warns NATO on moving military personnel and infrastructure to

1074
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: Finland and Sweden, saying they will respond in kind to

1075
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: any build up in the Nordic nations. So I think

1076
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: that this is extraordinarily foolish and haphazard what we're engaging

1077
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: in with next to no debate. And it gets back

1078
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: to this bigger picture question of you know, the instinct,

1079
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: the sort of neoliberal instinct of oh, we'll just trust

1080
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: the experts. We're not going to actually delve into the

1081
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: details ourselves. I'm sure they're handling it. We're just gonna

1082
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: accept we're being fed. They understand, we don't know. We

1083
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: need the public to be deeply involved and deeply engaged

1084
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: in this debate because ultimately, you are the ones who

1085
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: are going to be most impacted by these decisions and

1086
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: also by the endless continuation of this war, which is

1087
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: having its own, you know, impacts on us and on

1088
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: the world in terms of food prices and gas prices

1089
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: and all the rest. So it says everything about our

1090
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: political culture, how we are just sleepwalking into some whatever

1091
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: you think of them, support or do own support incredibly

1092
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: significant momentous decisions, no discussion. I think people should may

1093
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: have to make the case who support this, why American

1094
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: troops should die for the integrity of Helsinki and of Stockholm.

1095
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: And if you're Finish and you're Swedish, listen, I get it.

1096
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's beautiful, beautiful countries, all of that. However,

1097
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about our resources and our blood. If I

1098
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: were you, I would do the same thing, but I'm not.

1099
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: We have to decide what it's good for us. You

1100
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: and their advocates should make the case as to why

1101
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: it's in the strategic interests of the United States. So,

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00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: like I said, I'll present the counter argument, which I

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: do think is a fair one, which is that any

1104
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: world where Russia is going to invade Finland and Sweden

1105
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: is going to involve the United States anyway, as we

1106
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: always get dragged into these European conflicts, like in World

1107
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: War One and in World War Two, so we might

1108
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: as well just extend them the protection at the top.

1109
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: My response to that is very simple. I would rather

1110
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: get dragged into that kicking and screaming whenever it actually

1111
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: attacks our fundamental interests rather than and that should just

1112
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: go in automatically, which we Article five would require. The

1113
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: other question is whether this action makes that eventuality more likely. Yeah,

1114
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: it's good because it's a provocation. It is a provocation.

1115
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: So from the beginning, the lack of debate, the lack

1116
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: of seriousness, the lack of discussion, it is extraordinarily troubling

1117
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: and really underminds our ability to actually function as a

1118
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: democracy when these decisions are just made and never taken

1119
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: to the American people whatsoever. Well, it'll go to the

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00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: Senate and we'll cover it here. I want to cover it.

1121
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: I want to see at least one say something on

1122
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: the floor like, Hey, does anyone want to make the case?

1123
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: Do we want to just sign ourselves up and for

1124
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: an automatic trigger in order to go to war for

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00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: the integrity of the most eastern part of Europe, of

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: which we've never traditionally defended Europeans. I know you're all

1127
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: mad at me and will we are airing our segment

1128
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: about this right now, but listen, I have to make

1129
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: this case very simply. Europe is one sixth of global GDP. Okay,

1130
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: it is declining area of the world. It's mostly old people, demographics.

1131
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: They have a problem innovation, they have some real issues.

1132
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: It's basically a welfare state whose best days are long

1133
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: behind them. Yes, we have cultural ties with Europe that

1134
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: go back a long time. However, I mean whenever you're

1135
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: staking the future of your country militarily the use of

1136
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, you should consider what those resources really mean.

1137
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: And if you think that Asia is the future, which

1138
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: I certainly do think it is, overtook Europe on GDP

1139
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: both in twenty nineteen. Going forward, it will be our

1140
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: major trading relationship, and I believe our future rests far

1141
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: more there than over there. Well, you know, military resources

1142
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: actually are finite, and now we are deploying even more

1143
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: both of an extension of commitment and of military resources

1144
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: on the European continent, which at the very least could

1145
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: be directed elsewhere innovation, maybe even to our own domestic

1146
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: populace to shore up our domestic political problems. None of this,

1147
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: again is of a consideration. None of it is being debated.

1148
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: This is probably the only dissenting view that is even

1149
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: out there, which is even in the same semi mainstream.

1150
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's a major indictment. I think the

1151
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: American people should have a say, as we had to

1152
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: say in World War One, as we had to say

1153
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: after World War One, and we also all had to

1154
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: say on the Marshall Plan on you know, that was

1155
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: a buy in by America to say, you know what,

1156
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: we agree with this vision of the world. President Truman,

1157
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marshall. This is the world our boys

1158
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: fought and died for Europe, and so let's make sure

1159
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: that we rebuild it and reap the benefits going forward

1160
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: and protect democracy against the Iron curtain. But nobody's making

1161
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: that case out there right now. And I personally think

1162
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: that we deserve much more of a say in this

1163
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: than is being given to all of us. Yeah. Indeed,

1164
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: and by the way, guys, Soccer and I did have

1165
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: a big old debate Europe, so you can catch that

1166
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: over again. So yes, okay, this one. We will not

1167
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: forget about what happened in Uvaldi. We're just not going

1168
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: to forget what happened in Uvaldi, as much as the

1169
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: cops and the government officials want us to ignore all

1170
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: of it and move on. And there's a new piece

1171
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: in the Washington Post about just some of the conduct

1172
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: here in stonewalling journalists who are trying to get to

1173
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: the truth of what actually happened on that day when

1174
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: those kids were massacred. Put this up on the screen.

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: The headline here from the post is journalists in Uvaldi

1176
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 1: are stone walled, hassled, threatened with arrest. And I want

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: to read to you from the very beginning sort of

1178
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: the lead of this article, just to give you a

1179
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: visceral sense of what is happening to these journalists on

1180
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: the ground who are just trying to get the actual

1181
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: facts of what happened, which I don't think any of

1182
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: us feels confident we have at this point. They said

1183
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: that journalists had been threatened with arrest for getting too

1184
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: close to the mourners, So Houston Chronicle reporter Julian Gil

1185
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: stayed in the designated media area, so he was doing

1186
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: what they told him he had to do when he

1187
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: was reporting on funerals. Nevertheless, less a PAILANX of uniformed

1188
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: bikers confronted Gil the journalists outside the cemetery gates. They

1189
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: called themselves guardians of the children and claimed to be

1190
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 1: working with police officers who stood watch Gil, the journalist says,

1191
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to disturb anyone, guys, according to a

1192
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: video that he posted online, I'm not trying to ask

1193
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: anybody any questions. I just want to watch. That's all

1194
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: we can do, right The bikers followed and harassed journalists anyway,

1195
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: Gil wrote in the Chronicle. When he accidentally bumped into

1196
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: one of these biker cop affiliated people who claimed to

1197
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: be a paramedic, the bikers accused him of assault and battery,

1198
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: and they said to him, as a public servant, that's

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: kind of a felony. According again to the video, they

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01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: go on to say that journalists have been threatened with

1201
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: arrest for quote unquote trespassing outside public outside public buildings, okay,

1202
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote trespassing. They've been barred from public meetings, refused

1203
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: basic information about what police did during the May twenty

1204
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: fourth attack, and after several early air field news conferences,

1205
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,959
Speaker 1: officials have routinely turned down interview quest refused to hold

1206
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: news briefings. The situation has made even more fraught by

1207
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: the Spider's web of local and state agencies involved in

1208
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: responding to investigating the shooting, some of which now blame

1209
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: each other for the chaos. So they are being shut

1210
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: down and intimidated, actively intimidated in every possible way. And

1211
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: we know that the cops directly have also intimidated that

1212
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: incredibly courageous mom who was handcuffed and then when they

1213
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: had the handcuffs taken off, or she runs in the

1214
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: school and saves her kids. They've been coming and flashing

1215
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: their lives and trying to intimidate her and threatening her

1216
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: with criminal charges just for her willingness to speak out

1217
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: and be honest about what happened on the day. So

1218
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: this is a whole of government cover up at this point.

1219
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: There's just no other way to spin it when media

1220
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: organizations are being stonewalled, shut out for sound of public spaces,

1221
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: and being blocked from access to any of the records

1222
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: and data from that day. Yeah, and I want to

1223
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: emphasize these ain't Jim Acosta or CNN like crying people.

1224
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: These are people who work for univisual news agencies, Houston Chronicle,

1225
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: San Antonio Express. You know, these are all local reporters,

1226
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: people who are trying to do their jobs for their

1227
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: actual communities. You know, they literally live there and they're

1228
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: trying to bring the news to mostly Hispanic many of

1229
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: them are even Spanish language reporters, and they're getting uplocked,

1230
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: frozen out, intimidated going after them. The fact that they

1231
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: have people, you know, kind of surround them and block

1232
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: them from public spaces, this is outrageous. You combine it

1233
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: with what's happening with that Uvaldi mother who's being harassed

1234
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: and she's so afraid that she had to separate herself

1235
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: from her kids, who you know, were in a horrific shooting,

1236
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: traumatic event. YEA, like a good thing that happens. And

1237
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: we've pointed before about the cops, you know, trying to

1238
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: arrest journalists for to kind of go into the city council.

1239
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: Pete Rodondo is just in hiding even though he's been

1240
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: placed on quote unquote leave this mayor and all these

1241
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: guys or you know, shooting, they're like shooting accusations at

1242
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: each other. They're saying, oh, they're lying. They're like, no,

1243
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: you're lying again. I'm just saying the governor, the attorney general,

1244
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: somebody needs to step up actually take control of the situation.

1245
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: Whoever this police force is. They need to be completely

1246
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: either disbanded taken over by the state. Somebody needs to

1247
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: move in here. And restore like order and give people

1248
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: confidence that what's happening is not a horrific and tremendous

1249
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: cover up, because that's what everything, everything currently points to.

1250
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to avoid jail time and public scrutiny. And

1251
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: you know what, you let eighteen little kids get murdered

1252
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: while you know, you satire with your thumb up your

1253
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: ass for you deserve it whatever comes your way. That's

1254
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: we're supposed to have real accountability. You know, they could

1255
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: have used somebody, you know who, They could have used

1256
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: the diligence that you're putting and protecting your reputation in

1257
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: your life and all that while they were in there.

1258
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's how most people feel. And I

1259
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: really just wish somebody had text us of the government, FBI,

1260
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: somebody would step up. But they're not. You know, it's

1261
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: a total shit show, what's happening down there. It's it's

1262
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: completely insane, it's disgusting. All right, let's move on some

1263
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: I guess good news, mixed bag. Let's go and put

1264
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: this up there on the screen. Gallaine Maxwell has been

1265
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: given twenty years for aiding Jeffrey Epstein in trafficking. This

1266
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: is something we've been covering and looking at for a

1267
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: long time. The problem, unfortunately we covered basically since the

1268
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: day that it all broke back in twenty nineteen, is that,

1269
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, we really just did not learn allow a

1270
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: lot about Ja Gelaine Maxwell, and about Jeffrey Epstein in

1271
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: this trial. It's like the FBI went out of its

1272
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: way in order to proces you crimes that happened, you know,

1273
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: decades and decades ago. They focused very specifically on the

1274
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: two or three crimes. They did not focus on many

1275
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: of the famous people that Glaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein were

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: involved in. And with the conclusion of the trial, you

1277
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: actually basically end the ability to gain access to the

1278
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: FBI's evidence that they did seize from Epstein's mansion and

1279
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: for many of the Epstein affiliated you know, finance networks

1280
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: and more. The indictment and all that gave us a

1281
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: little bit of a preview into how Epstein would move

1282
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: money around and her him and Maxwell would you know,

1283
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: work together and to fund both European prostitutes and all

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: this other disgusting behavior. But a lot of the open

1285
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: inquiries are closed at this point. The Virgin Islands, you know,

1286
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: we still haven't heard a hell of a lot about

1287
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: exactly his estate getting divvied up. Maybe you'll learn more

1288
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: because many of the victims are actually suing. But the

1289
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: point is is that this was the last chance in

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01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: criminal court in order to air this out to the public,

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: and the grand trial that we all deserved where names

1292
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: were named, has just not come out. And conveniently, you know,

1293
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, let's put this up there. Maxwell

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: has now been placed on suicide watch. You know, they

1295
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: say ahead of her sentencing that they say that, oh,

1296
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: she's exhibited, you know, she's exhibited behavior in which she's depressed.

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01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously our lawyer says she's not suicidal. But right,

1298
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: lawyer says she's not suicidal. She's been placed on suicide watch. Anyway,

1299
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't know who should believe. Maybe that's a way

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: of trying to get around it. They are preparing her

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: for sentencing. Now she's been sentenced to twenty years in prison.

1302
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: But just remember there's she has a hell of a

1303
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: lot of information and she's still not talking. She is

1304
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: protecting Prince Andrew and continues to reports were that will help.

1305
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: A lot of famous people were very upset and worried

1306
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: whenever she was arrested at that FBI compound in the

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01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: middle of like New Hampshire or whatever, and they can

1308
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: probably sleep easy. I mean, at this point, what confidence

1309
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: should we have that any information is going to come

1310
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 1: out of this. Basically everything we've learned has come out.

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01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm glad that she's going to spend

1312
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: twenty years in prison, but frankly, she's sixty years old.

1313
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: That means she could actually walk at some point, which

1314
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: I think is disgusting and outrageous. And at the end

1315
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: of the day, all of my hope for the trial

1316
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: were dashed basically the day that the FBI charged her

1317
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: with those two older crimes. I'm not saying those crimes

1318
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: aren't just, but you know, we have crising committed. Up

1319
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: until twenty thirteen, we had no information about it. And

1320
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: it also was part of just remind everybody. The prosecution

1321
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: strategy was what they called thin to win, which means,

1322
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: like you just focus narrowly on these couple of pieces

1323
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: to try to get the conviction without painting the broader

1324
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 1: portrait of all of the decades of criminal behavior, the

1325
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: massive pattern of recruiting and grooming these children into this,

1326
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, horrific abuse, sexual abuse, and rape. You know,

1327
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,480
Speaker 1: that was they introduced some of that during the sentencing,

1328
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: But in terms of the actual trial and what the

1329
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: convictions were based on, they just tried to focus in

1330
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: on these few narrow charges again, which were very serious

1331
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: and obviously which ends up with her receiving twenty years

1332
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: in prison. They say that with potential will credit for

1333
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: good behavior in the two years she's spent in jail,

1334
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: she could leave prison in her seventies. So yeah, see

1335
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: that's out ray. Also, see the light of day, she

1336
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: was given a sentence which was less than the recommended

1337
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: you know, the yeah Ed's asked for thirty twenty five.

1338
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: I think this is the problem. If you go thin

1339
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: to win, then they get sentenced on you know, whatever

1340
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: they're actually convicted of, which is Look, that's how it

1341
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: should work in a court of law. I'm not saying

1342
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: that it should work otherwise. But there's a hell of

1343
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: a lot more they could have come out on this

1344
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: trial that never actually did end up coming out. And

1345
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: now you know, there's a lot of guys Leon Black,

1346
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: Leslie Wexner, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Aude Barack. I can

1347
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: go on forever, billionaires and others that she had not

1348
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: only been pictured with, but had covoorded with privately. We

1349
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: don't even know Kevin Spacey, who's a guy from Rush Hour,

1350
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: Chris Tucker, Bill Richard, Bill Richardson. Yeah, there's a lot

1351
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: of folks, Alan Dershowitz, there's still a hell of a

1352
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: lot of folks who can probably sleep easier. So I

1353
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: guess good news, mixed bag. Let's go and put this

1354
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: up there on the screen. Gallaine Maxwell has been given

1355
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: twenty years for aiding Jeffrey Epstein in trafficking. This is

1356
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: something we've been covering and looking at for a long time.

1357
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: The problem, unfortunately we covered basically since the day that

1358
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: it all broke back in twenty nineteen, is that, you know,

1359
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: we really just did not learn all a lot about

1360
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: Jacklaine Maxwell and about Jeffrey Epstein in this trial. It's

1361
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: like the FBI went out of its way in order

1362
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: to proceed crimes that happened, you know, decades and decades ago.

1363
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: They focused very specifically on these two or three crimes.

1364
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: They did not focus on many of the famous people

1365
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: that Glaine Maxwell Jeffrey Epstein were involved in and with

1366
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: the conclusion of the trial, you actually basically end the

1367
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: ability to gain access to the FBI's evidence that they

1368
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: did seize from Epstein's mansion and for many of the

1369
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: Epstein affiliated you know, finance networks and more. The indictment

1370
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: and all that gave us a little bit of a

1371
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: preview into how Epstein would move money around and her

1372
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: him and Maxwell would you know, work together and to

1373
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,879
Speaker 1: fund both European prostitutes and all this other disgusting behavior.

1374
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: But a lot of the open inquiry are closed at

1375
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: this point, the Virgin Islands. You know, we still haven't

1376
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: heard a hell of a lot about exactly his estate

1377
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: getting divvied up. Maybe you we'll learn more because many

1378
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: of the victims are actually suing. But the point is

1379
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: is that this was the last chance in criminal court

1380
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: in order to air this out to the public, and

1381
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: the grand trial that we all deserved where names were named,

1382
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: has just not come out. And conveniently, you know, at

1383
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: the same time, let's put this up there. Maxwell has

1384
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: now been placed on suicide watch. You know, they say

1385
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: ahead of her sentencing that they say that, oh, she's exhibited,

1386
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, she's exhibited behavior in which she's depressed. I mean, obviously,

1387
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: our lawyer says she's not suicidal, but right the lawyer

1388
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: says he's not suicidal. She's been placed on suicide watch. Anyway,

1389
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: I don't know who you should believe. Maybe that's a

1390
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: way of trying to get around it. And they are

1391
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: preparing her for sentencing. Now she's been sentenced to twenty

1392
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: years in prison. But just remember there's she has a

1393
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: hell of a lot of information and she's still not talking.

1394
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: She is protecting Prince Andrew and continues to reports were

1395
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: that will help. A lot of famous people were very

1396
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: upset and worried whenever she was arrested at that FBI

1397
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: compound in the middle of like New Hampshire or whatever,

1398
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,919
Speaker 1: and they can probably sleep easy. I mean, at this point,

1399
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: what confidence should we have that any information is going

1400
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: to come out of this. Basically everything we've learned has

1401
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: come out. I'm you know, I'm glad that she's going

1402
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: to spend twenty years in prison, but frankly, she's sixty

1403
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: years old. That means she could actually walk at some point,

1404
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 1: which I think is disgusting and outrageous. And at the

1405
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: end of the day, all of my hopes for the

1406
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: trial were dashed basically the day that the FBI charged

1407
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: her with those two older crimes. I'm not saying those

1408
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: crimes aren't just, but you know, we have been committed.

1409
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: Up until twenty thirteen, we had no information about it,

1410
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: and it also was part of just remind everybody. The

1411
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: prosecution strategy was what they called thin to win, which means,

1412
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: like you just focus narrowly on these couple of pieces

1413
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 1: to try to get the conviction without painting the broader

1414
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: portrait of all of the decades of criminal behavior, the

1415
01:12:55,160 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: massive pattern of recruiting and grooming these children into this

1416
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, horrific abuse, sexual abuse, and rape. You know,

1417
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: that was they introduced some of that during the sentencing,

1418
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: but in terms of the actual trial and what the

1419
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: convictions were based on, they just tried to focus in

1420
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: on these few narrow charges again, which were very serious

1421
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: and obviously which ends up with her receiving twenty years

1422
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: in prison. They say that with potential credit for good

1423
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: behavior in the two years she's spent in jail, she

1424
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: could leave prison in her seventies. So yeah, see that's

1425
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: out right. She may al still see the light of day.

1426
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: She was given a sentence which was less than the

1427
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: recommended you know, the yeah fads asked for thirty as

1428
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: a fifty five. I think this is the problem. If

1429
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: you go thin to win, then they get sentenced on

1430
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, whatever they're actually convicted of, which is Look,

1431
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: that's how it should work in a court of law.

1432
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it should work otherwise, but as

1433
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot more they could have come

1434
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: out on this trial that never actually did end up

1435
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: coming out. And now you know, there's a lot of

1436
01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 1: guys Leon Black, Leslie Wexner, Prince Andrew, Bill, Clinton, Barack.

1437
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: I can go on forever, billionaires and others that she'd

1438
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: not only been pictured with, but had covoorded with privately.

1439
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, who's a guy from Rush Hour, Chris Tucker, Bill,

1440
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: Bill Richardson. Yeah, there's a lot of folks, Alan Dershowitz,

1441
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: there's still a hell of a lot of folks who

1442
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: can probably sleep easier,