1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: The Patriots Training Camp Cast is your source for all 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: the news from Patriots Training Camp. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Well, I do still watch the news. Practice is over, 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: but the writers of Patriots dot com have you covered? 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: What did I miss yesterday? 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 4: Now here to review today's practice? 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: The writers of Patriots dot Com. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 5: All right, welcome into another edition of the Patriots Training 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 5: Camp Cast. I'm Mike do So, joined by Paul Perillo 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 5: and Tamara Brown, and we are literally right off the field. 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 5: We haven't even compared notes. Paul, I don't even know 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 5: what you thought of this practice today. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: So I mean, this could go anywhere. 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: I have no idea what you guys, So let's dive in. 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 5: I mean, we know there's a game in a couple 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 5: of days, and I, you know, I felt it was 18 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 5: a little bit dial back in places. There was you know, 19 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 5: there were some plays made here and there, some of 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 5: them like out of bounds maybe that were kind of whoa. 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 5: But otherwise I didn't really feel that great about this practice. 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 5: It felt kind of like slogging. And you know, again 23 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 5: like you've talked a lot, Paul about the the rhythm 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 5: of it, and it just it felt plotting a lot 25 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 5: of the times, and there were some big plays that 26 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: we'll get into that were that were kind of nice 27 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 5: and encouraging. But overall, I just felt like, this feels 28 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 5: like a couple of days before a game. 29 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought because they were so physical yesterday, 30 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: I felt like they dialed it back a little bit. 31 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: It was much more passing today than yesterday. And I 32 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: thought there was some moments here or there. You know, 33 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: I think there were times when you see Drake May 34 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: get in a rhythm, and generally those are seven on seven's, 35 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: not not the full team, but you see it, you 36 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: see some of the things that people are excited about. 37 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: Still a work in progress, but yeah, there were some 38 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: outstanding catches made today. Whether or not they were all, 39 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: you know, all in about, I think most of them were. 40 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: There was one toward the end that I'm pretty sure 41 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 3: was out of bounds, but like, there was a couple 42 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: of really really nice catches, athletic plays made during the 43 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: course of the day. And again, I thought the defense 44 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: more often than not was in control. Yeah, we'll get 45 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: into it stood out too. 46 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up to me? And I hate to be 47 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: a little bit nitpicky. Here was Drake May in the 48 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: situational periods. I think he's still a bit bumpy there, 49 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: kind of a roller coaster especially, you know, I think 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: it was like under a minute, fifty eight seconds whatever 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: it was, But the supporting cast didn't help him. There 52 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: were a lot of drops. There's a bad snap, So 53 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to blame it all on him, but 54 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: those seemed to be the areas where he can have 55 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: some growth. And obviously the preseason game coming up have 56 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: plenty of opportunities to get reps. But he is showing 57 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: flashes throughout practice that good to see. 58 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let's let's highlight some of these stories that 59 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 5: we're talking about. I mean, seven on seven May with 60 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 5: a couple I just I wrote dimes it to Booty 61 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 5: and to our friend. We haven't really seen jahean Bell 62 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: a couple of nice throws. Again, kind of hard from 63 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 5: my vantage point. 64 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: To see if I gave him a touchdown because the 65 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: first time I've noticed jehem Bell in camp, so I 66 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: figured out they give me an opportunity to strow write 67 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: about him. But yeah, I know exactly the play you're 68 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: talking about came right at us in the the know 69 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: what all tents, and I agree with Samara's assessment of 70 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: the of the hurry up. The two minute drill is 71 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: continuing to me to be sort of plotting for both 72 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: both quarterbacks. And there was one play, you know, I'm 73 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: trying to find. I think it was with Brissett. You know, 74 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: they had a fourth down and they complete a pretty 75 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: sizable seam route to kJ Osborne and Osbo just keeps 76 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: running and I'm like running, like there needs to be 77 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: a situational awareness in that kind of a you know, spot, 78 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: And I thought that you get the first down, there's 79 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: no time to celebrate. I think they ended up resetting 80 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: the clock where he would have been sort of stopped. 81 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: So like like like you said, it wasn't like it 82 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: was without any plays at all. Offensively. There were some 83 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: plays made, just not enough of them. And I do 84 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: think Tamara mentioned a snap issue. I think that the 85 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: rain today in Foxboro casts some problems handling the ball. 86 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: I thought the long snapping we should add that Tucker 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: Addington was was added to the roster. His snaps were 88 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: a little erratic today. I thought they had some hard 89 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: time and there was a fumble I think by Kevin Harris. 90 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: There was a couple of fumbled exchanges involving the quarterbacks 91 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: and some guys on jet sweep. So I thought the 92 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: rain created some adversity. 93 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: Today, Let's keep building off of that because Javon Baker 94 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: had which this is a crazy catch, I mean and 95 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: back and when that's the one? 96 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: Was that the one you were talking about in on 97 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: that one? It couldn't tell, but yeah it was. 98 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: It was parab completely parallel to the ground. He makes 99 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: that diving catch, then he drops like three us. 100 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: You know, it's just like, yeah, that was and that 101 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: was you talked about samaraw with Drake May where Drake 102 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 5: fired I think a couple passes that you know in 103 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: his area. It's hard to say, but you could tell 104 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 5: the wet ball was definitely coming into it. 105 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: It's strange because it's like those diving acrobatic catches. You 106 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: see his catch radius and his strong hands and Javon Baker, 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: but then it's something with the short passes that he 108 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: drops them. And I will say a lot of the 109 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: passes were behind him. There were a few moments where 110 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: I know Fred brought up next to me a bunch 111 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 2: of times, like why is he throwing the ball behind 112 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: the guy? Yeah? But still you. 113 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: Got to credit the quarterback guru. 114 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, good observations. 115 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 5: And I mean, of course, the team has a game 116 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: coming up, so I just noticed a lot of rotation. 117 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: There were you know, kind of maybe a little bit more. 118 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: We talked a lot about the rotation, Paul, but like 119 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 5: even along the offensive line, there were, you know, some 120 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 5: guys working in a little bit. 121 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. 122 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: City. 123 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: So looked like he was at his normal spot at 124 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: left guard during the war through period at the beginning 125 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: of practice. Then when they went team it was Michael Jordan, 126 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: not that one and not the actor, this Michael Jordan. 127 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: He and I thought he actually looked pretty good. I 128 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: thought on the move some of those zone plays that 129 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: Evan talks about all the time. 130 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: I thought he was leading. 131 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: On a Kevin Harris sort of off tackle play on 132 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: an inside zone. I thought he got out and made 133 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 3: a kicked out, made a big block to remove Jelani 134 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: Tavai out of the hole, which was was one of 135 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: the rare running plays that I thought looked like it 136 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: had some positive yardage. So something to keep an eye 137 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: on there. Venerian low continues just like five days in 138 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 3: a row now, at left tackle for low Calvin Anderson 139 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: back at right tackle. So you know, it's two days 140 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: in a row, kind of the same group at the beginning, 141 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: you know, and then Jordan mixing in. So we'll see 142 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: how that goes Thursday. But to me, the big takeaway 143 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: was Drod Mayo saying that, you know, everybody who's healthy 144 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: is going to play Thursday night in the preseason opener. 145 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kate Wallace who kind of banged up during practice, 146 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: got looked at, did go back to back, but you know, again, 147 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: and we had a similar situation with Calvin Anderson earlier 148 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 5: in the week. 149 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: They're very banged up. 150 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 5: They went out, they signed another left tackle this week, 151 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: but you know, otherwise, you just wonder how they're going 152 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 5: to go into this game with kind of the tackles. 153 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it's an uncertain situation even with everyone healthy, 154 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 5: and now with a couple guys banged up, you're kind 155 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: of limited a quarters four again just watch, so really 156 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 5: some attrition there at tackle is kind of building up 157 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 5: to Marrow. It makes me wonder, you know, how you're 158 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: gonna juggle it when you get into this preseason game 159 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: where you're gonna have guys like Zuri Henry, you know, 160 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 5: playing extensive snaps. 161 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: I think it's going to make it tough to get 162 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: a good assessment of Drake may especially because we've only 163 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: seen him in practice with like the second string type 164 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: of guys. But if you keep getting thin because of 165 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: these injuries, then it's like those guys are going to 166 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: end up playing with Jacoby Brissett too. So I think 167 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be tough to assess the quarterback play 168 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: when the offensive line is still bad. 169 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean I did think they had some 170 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 5: periods today where there were you know, pretty good protection 171 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 5: for Presette, but not a lot you know, just not 172 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: a lot of continuity, not able to really stack drives. 173 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: I think that's what I'm most interested to see with 174 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: that Jacoby Brissette offense. Can they stack a drive, you know, 175 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: in real time? And it's not make a play stop 176 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: all right? He said, you know, it's just you never 177 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 5: felt that real kind of game scenario yet in practice, and. 178 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Whenever they do sort of get in the rhythm. To me, 179 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: it's all the short, quick throws. It's little hooks, it's curls, 180 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: it's slants. There's nothing that's you know, takes any time 181 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: to develop, so you know some of those deep overs 182 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: that you know, you see the crossing routes that that 183 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: you know that that that a VP system is supposed 184 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: to be about. We haven't really seen a lot of 185 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: that yet. 186 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's wrap up with some housekeeping notes. 187 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: I mean twenty four Josh Bledsoe back in uniform, so 188 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: a little boost there to the safety group. Marcus Jones 189 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: remains out. The rest of the group that that has 190 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: been out remains out. Marte Mapu among others. Matthew Judahm 191 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: we got to you know, was out there initially, not 192 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: in pads today, looked like he just had shells to me, 193 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: did not have a helmet, disappeared for a portion after stretching, 194 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: reappeared on the sidelines, not really participating. 195 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: To me, this felt again like a little bit of 196 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: a shift. 197 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: He's been out there, he's been participating, been a good 198 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: you know, the good the you know, the good employee kind. 199 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: Of We heard from him yesterday and sound like a 200 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: guy with that was overly pleased and yeah, he spent 201 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: some time talking to joke him and the outside linebackers. 202 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: Coach Wilkins Drewe. 203 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: Drew Wilkins ye from ball was close. 204 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, spent a lot of time talking to those guys 205 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: did not have pads on today, did not take part. 206 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: It's definitely very misleading when you listen to him in 207 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: his press conference yesterday and then you see him out 208 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: of practice. He obviously sounds like he is going to play, 209 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: but maybe that means hey, I'm just going to play 210 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: in the games and practice. 211 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: When I want to. 212 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this is it, folks. 213 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: Preseason has finally arrived, so stay tuned here Patriots dot com. 214 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 5: We'll have the pregame show, Paul and I will be 215 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: on there in the postgame show, of course, and then 216 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: these training camp casts will be back next week. We're 217 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: anticipating maybe Sunday, something going on there, We're not sure, 218 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 5: but certainly Monday, and then a joint practice Tuesday. 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