1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: a little thing we'd like to call the after party. 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: episode of Disgracelands to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: about juvenile delinquency and how it could possibly prevent great art. 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne, more on al Pacino and of course your voicemails, texts, 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: dms and more and as always, a whole lot of rosie. 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: All right, Discos, let's get into it. I've never been arrested. 14 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: I've never been part of some criminal scandal. I've never 15 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: done time. I've never spent the night in jail. The 16 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: closest I came to getting into real trouble, real trouble 17 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: with the law was I was caught shoplifting in Ozzy 18 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Osborne cassette when I was in the seventh grade. I 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: didn't get arrested, but I didn't get in trouble and 20 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: have to go to court, where the judge, in all seriousness, 21 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: asked me, son, did Ozzy Osborne make you do this 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: ridiculous question? Of course, I've told some of you this before. 23 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I'm sure my friends have all heard this story, and 24 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: those who have heard it know that the rest of 25 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: this story goes as follows. My father, who was accompanying 26 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: me to my court date, nearly fell out of his 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: chair laughing, and even so everything ended fine. I still 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: can't tell it the was serious or not. I was 29 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: let go on the promise that I'd never shoplift again, 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: I'd never get into trouble again. I was a minor. 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even get a black mark on my record. 32 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Nothing really happened, thankfully, because I acted like an idiot. 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: But the whole experience, it was scary. It woke me up. 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: It taught me. I guess that there are real consequences. 35 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: There were real consequences, I should say, for my juvenile 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: delinquency and my budding career as a teenage dirt bag. 37 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I think where I grew up, Clinton, Massachusetts, a small 38 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: town west of Boston, a town that threw no fault 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: of its own didn't have a lot to offer me 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: by the time I hit my teens, and I didn't 41 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: have a lot to offer it either. Like a lot 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: of the kids I grew up with, I was a 43 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: tough kid. I don't mean like tough, like like fighting 44 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I mean tough like then. I didn't 45 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: realize it, but now I do. I put up with 46 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot, and I developed some resiliency because of my upbringing. 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: But like most kids thirteen fourteen years old, back then, 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I wanted out of my life. 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: I was unknowingly doing most things wrong, as I'm sure 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: that a lot of latch key kids were doing at 51 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the same time back in the late eighties. I smoked, 52 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I drank, I got really shitty grades. I skipped school 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: as much as possible. I cursed like a freaking sailor. 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: I didn't listen to really anything my parents had to say. 55 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: I listened to just enough to keep them off my 56 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: back when they were around. I guess my dad lived 57 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: in the city. My mom and stepdad, who were raising me, 58 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: were distracted. Was trying to make enough money to keep 59 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: the lights on and raise three kids. Parenting the oldest. 60 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: That would be me out of a life of crime. 61 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: That's an overstatement, a life of juvenile delinquency that didn't 62 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: fit into their schedule. And even if it did, by 63 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: that point in my young life, I doubt that it 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: would have mattered. That was nineteen eighty seven. I was 65 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: pretty convinced that I'd be dead by the time I 66 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: was eighteen years old. Not exaggerating. I was sure, as 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming a lot of young people are now, that 68 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: the world was going to blow itself up. The threat 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: then was nuclear war. Today it's the ever constant threat 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: of climate catastrophe, and back then it was the Russians. 71 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I guess it still is. But what was the point? 72 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: Why study? Why get good grades? Why go to school? 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Why get a date to the Sadie Hawkins dance? Why 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: cut my hair just because my baseball coach told me too. 75 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: By the time I was in seventh grade, I was 76 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: such a little unknowing nihilist that I brazenly pocketed that 77 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne cassette the Randy Rose Tribute. Didn't matter the consequences, 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: and I did so because heavy metal was at the 79 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: time one of the only things in the world that 80 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: made sense to me that in Girls, But I'm going 81 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: to skip the girl's part for now and focus on 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the metal and the consequences of my juvenile delinquency. For 83 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: the moment, Heavy Metal was everything you ever see the 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: movie Heavy Metal Parking Lot. Okay, that vibe was pretty 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: much my ideal notion of heaven in the seventh grade 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: of paradise, unlimited good times and no parents in sight. 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't know, Heavy Metal 88 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: Parking Lot is a documentary, I guess basically it's a 89 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: camera crew set loose in the parking lot of a 90 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: stadium where Judas, Priests and Dawkin are about to play 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: a concert in nineteen eighty six. I think it's in 92 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Maryland or Delaware or somewhere on the East coast. So 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: it looked very familiar to me. It looks very familiar 94 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to me, I should say. The filmmakers interview a bunch 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: of teenage wastoids. Dudes in half shirts with their cut 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: abs showing and feathered hair parted in the middle, chicks 97 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: and spandex and hair aquaneted to the moon. Most are wasted, 98 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: all are having the time of their lives. Where are 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: they now? Who knows how many of those metal heads 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: are living full, rewarding lives. I'm going to guess that 101 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: most are, because that's human nature. People find their way. 102 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: I found mine, but I very easily could have been rerouted, 103 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: gone through the wrong sliding door, or whatever. Fucked up bad, 104 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: real bad, as some of my friends did. Friends who 105 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: ended up dead, friends who ended up in prison. There 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: wasn't much difference between their childhoods and mind So why 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: did I end up here right now talking to you? Incidentally, 108 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: you might be able to tell from the sound of 109 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: this recording, I'm not in my studio at the time. 110 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm in a cabin whereas my six year old calls 111 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: at a cabbage in the middle of the woods on 112 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: an island. You can probably hear my kids outside running around. 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: They're bug hunting right now. I've got the microphone set 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the cabin here. It's quite idyllic, 115 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: even if it doesn't sound. So we'll be back in 116 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the studio next week. But the point is, I'm recording 117 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: this on vacation, and it's a pretty awesome vacation, if 118 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, A vacation in a place that's so beautiful. 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: I didn't even know it existed when I was a 120 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: teenager in a place so idyllic that I never would 121 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: have imagined I'd ever have been able to visit here 122 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: if I was aware of it. But here I am. 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of this is luck, a lot of 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: it is randomness. Life can turn bad in an instant, 125 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes we have no control over it, but sometimes 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: we do. Al Pacino, as a young juvenile delinquent, he 127 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: knew he had control over his life, the free will 128 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: to write what was almost a terrible wrong, so wrong 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: that he was about to get into serious life altering 130 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: trouble for an act that he hadn't even followed through with. 131 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: This story, as you probably know, is the subject of 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: our last full episode of Disgraceland. Now. Al Pacino's choice 133 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to act his way out of what was almost a 134 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: ten year prison sentence, a role that, had he not aced, 135 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: would have resulted in the world being a little less 136 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: interesting or perhaps a lot less interesting, depending on your 137 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: point of view. Now, perhaps had al done that time, 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: that prison time, he would have got out of jail 139 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: and resumed his acting career and became a version of 140 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: the same star that he is today. But I highly 141 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: doubt it. Prison, despite what authorities and social scientists preached, 142 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really reform criminals. It refines them, gives them the 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: skills that they need to become better criminals, not better people. 144 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: So al likely after ten years in lock up would 145 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: have emerged more criminal minded than he was when he 146 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: went in, and likely would have wound up back in 147 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: prison at some point and not starring in some of 148 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: the greatest films in Hollywood history. Okay, these films, particularly 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: the iconic ones from the nineteen seventies that al Pacino made, 150 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: never would have existed, or if they did, they'd be 151 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: a lot different without al Pacino. I guess that's the point. 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Is The Godfather any good with Robert Redford in the 153 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: role of Michael as the studios wanted? I don't think so. 154 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Does Serpico even get made without al Pacino? Who plays 155 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Sonny in Dog Day Afternoon? Dustin Hoffmann, I can actually 156 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: see that one. Who does Robert Nero star opposite and 157 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: in Heat? I have no answer for you on that one. 158 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone is scarfaced, definitely not as far as I'm concerned. 159 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: No one about al Pacino could have played Left and 160 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Donnie Brosco. And on the other hand, the dude who 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: served me my coffee at Dunkin Donuts this morning could 162 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: have done a better job than Al did as Jimmy 163 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Hoffa and the Irishman, but Al gets a pass for 164 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: that one. There's a lot of what ifs, is my point, 165 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: and I can't imagine a Hollywood history without Al Pacino, 166 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: or at least I don't really want to. The randomness 167 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: of life is so absolute sometimes that when we consider 168 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: what we have for films, for music, the astonishing art 169 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: that's part of our modern culture on screen and in 170 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: our speakers, we are so lucky. We are blessed. Think 171 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: of these artists, these actors, the musicians. Think of the 172 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: way they live their lives. How close to the edge 173 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: they were, how close to death they came, never mind prison, 174 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: and how they survived only to continue making great art. 175 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: The Beatles were lucky to make it out of Germany 176 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: alive in their early days. Imagine if John's Nazi goose 177 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: stepping on stage insulted the wrong tough at nails German 178 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: from the Reaperbond District and he wound up dead. Imagine 179 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: if Sean Penn assaulted the wrong dude on the set 180 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: of and ended up with a bullet in his belly 181 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: instead of a light sixty day jail sentence. What if 182 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: Easy suffered the same drug dealer's fate as his dead 183 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: cousin Horace. What if George Lucas died in that car 184 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: crash as a kid. What if Madonna in Blondie's Debbie 185 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Harry didn't overcome the trauma of being raped. What if 186 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe didn't overcome the sexual abuse she suffered as 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: a child. Can you imagine a world where we have 188 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: no Beatles, no NWA, no Star Wars, no Madonna, no Marilyn, 189 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: no Al Pacino. I can't. It all makes me wonder 190 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: now what we're missing? What incredible works of art, What albums? 191 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: What movies were never made because the people who would 192 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: have made them never had the opportunity because they were jailed, 193 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: or they died too young. However you look at it, 194 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that Al Pacino survived 195 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and became one of the greatest actors of all time. 196 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Last week I asked you guys, in preparation of our 197 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: full Al Pacino episode, if al was the greatest actor 198 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: of the seventies, and we'll get into that answer in 199 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: a bit, but I can share with you now a 200 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of you submitted Al's friend John Cazel as your answer, 201 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: and on this sort of cultural sliding doors topic that 202 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: we have here, John Cozel is a perfect answer. Cazelle, 203 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: of course, played Fredo in The Godfather and was romantically 204 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: involved during his career with Meryl Streep. But more important, 205 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: John Cazel died young at the age of forty two 206 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: from chainsmoking cigarettes. He died of lung cancer. But before 207 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: he died, and here's the point, he made only five movies, 208 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: and each of them is an undeniable masterpiece. Each movie 209 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: that John Cozelle made, all five of them were nominated 210 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: for Best Picture, The Godfather, Godfather Too, Dog Day Afternoon, 211 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Deer Hunter, and Francis FOURT. Cooppola is the conversation, what 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the hell would John Cozel's career have been like had 213 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: he lived? What movies would he have starreded that don't 214 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: exist right now? What would he in Meryl Street have 215 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: given us Beyond the Deer Hunter? It's fun to think about. 216 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: I'll get more into John Cazel when I answer your 217 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: calls and texts in a bit, but right now I 218 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: want to hit on next week's disgrace Land subject real quick, 219 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: I want to hit on Metallica. This episode on Metallica 220 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: is largely about Cliff Burton and the impact of his 221 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: death on the band, and Metallica is such an institution 222 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: now that it's hard to fully understand how important Cliff 223 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: Burton was to Metallica. He was the group's heart and soul. 224 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: He was the medal in Metallica. The band beat to 225 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: his heart rate. If Metallica broke up after Cliff's death 226 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six, as led Zeppelin had broken up 227 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: after John Bottom's death in nineteen eighty nineteen seventy nine, 228 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I think it was early eighty. I doubt that those 229 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: who knew Metallica personally would have been surprised if they 230 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: broke up, because Cliff was that important, and Cliff's death 231 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: was a giant loss that the band somehow overcame. When 232 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: you listening to the Metallica episode next week, I'm going 233 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: to ask you guys to think about the episode's theme 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: of loss and think about which living artists you can't 235 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: afford to lose and why why would you be devastated 236 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: if God forbid, we lost Dave Grohl or Taylor Swift 237 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: or Beyonce or Morgan Wallen or Jack White or Casey 238 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Musgraves or Chris Stapleton or Billie Eilish or Lady Gaga 239 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: or Adele any modern artists? Which modern artists can't you 240 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: afford to lose? And why? What do they provide for you? 241 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: What do these artists give you that makes them so 242 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: indispensable to your lives? I want to know who can't 243 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: you live without? Right now? Call me six one seven 244 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight to let me know, 245 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Leave me a voicemail, send me a text, or hit 246 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: me up on the socials at disgrace lampod. I'll be 247 00:13:42,800 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: back in a flash. All right, let's get into your voicemails. 248 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Let's get into your texts. Last week, like I mentioned before, 249 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: we asked in honor of al Pacino, who the greatest 250 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: actor of the nineteen seventies might have been? Who you 251 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: think deserves that crown? Got some interesting answers from a 252 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: bunch of you. Let's check out this answer from Cynthia 253 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: in the five Away. 254 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Hey, Jake and Cynthia, I've been thinking about what you 255 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: were saying about the best seventies who owned the seventies 256 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: as far as acting, And I gotta say Donald Sutherland's 257 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: because well, I think of movies like Mash and Animal House, 258 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: Don't Look Now, which I just saw not too long 259 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: ago really freaked me out, and Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 260 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: which traumatized me as a child. But honestly, he runs 261 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: the gamut of genres and it's not a seventies movie. 262 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: But in nineteen eighty he did Ordinary People, which is 263 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: completely different from the other movies that I mentioned. So 264 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: I just got to say his face was everywhere and 265 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: in all of these movies that were you know, that 266 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: have longevity that will be forever. That's my input. Thanks. 267 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Donald Sutherland is a is a sneaky pick and not 268 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: one that I would have thought of. I wouldn't I 269 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't claim donalds I wouldn't give him the crown. But 270 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: he's He's up there in a handful of grtes from 271 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: the decade, for sure, if for no other reason than 272 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: his his brief pantsless role in an Animal House, which 273 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: I just every time I see it, I laugh my 274 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: ass off. Also, a Mash is clute, is clute? The 275 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies or is that like sixty nine, sixty eight, 276 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: sixty nine, something like that. Love Donald Sutherland, rest in peace. 277 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: He just passed away a little while ago. On the 278 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: same subject to three ZHO two rights in Gene Hackman. Shit, 279 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: he's been out of the spotlight for years and slipped 280 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: from my mind. Hackman or Paccino, I don't know, dude, 281 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: That's a fucking Sophie's choice conundrum. I feel like Gene 282 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Hackman is a just great, one of the greatest actors 283 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: of all time, for sure, and we overlook him, all 284 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: of us. I feel like he doesn't get mentioned enough. 285 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: And when we talk about the greatest actors. He's tremendous 286 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: in everything I've seen him, and even movies I don't like. 287 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: If I'm switching through the channels and I see Gene 288 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Hackman's face, I'm gonna stop and I'm gonna watch it 289 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. These aren't seventies movies, 290 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: but Hoosiers hits. Of course, we're ad ten and bombs. 291 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: Even the Firm. He's fantastic in the Firm. I almost 292 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: said cocktail. He's not in cocktail, but Tom Cruise is 293 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: in a tropical place in both those movies. Have you 294 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: guys seen the recent you said he's not in the 295 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: spotlight here the three or two mentioned that, But have 296 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: you seen the recent pictures of Gene Hackman. I believe 297 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: there are some paparazzi get photos of him. I think 298 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: he lives in like New Mexico or Arizona or something 299 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: like that. And he's getting out of his pickup truck 300 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: at ninety something years old. He looks nothing like you 301 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: would expect. Google these images. They're they're really fantastic, kind 302 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: of shocking given how different he looks. But he's old, 303 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: but he's up and around. Man, he's up and around him. 304 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: And Clint Eastwood get a handed to those guys. Yeah, 305 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: where's Clint Eastwood on the list of seventies actors? I 306 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: don't think anybody mentioned Clint Eastwood eight point eight text 307 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: in Hey, Jake Mickey here on the topic of best 308 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: actors in the seventies. I think we both know that 309 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of peeps will say de Niro. It's tough 310 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: not to, but I'm gonna throw this name in the hat, 311 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: mister Richard pryor not all of them comedies either, Lady 312 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Sings the Blues, for example, a very solid seventies catalog 313 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: for the Man until next time, Mickey, I could very 314 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: easily google Richard Pryor's videography from the nineteen seventies, but 315 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that right now because i 316 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: want to keep talking to you. But hit me back, 317 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: give me more. Besides Lady Sings the Blues, I'm thinking 318 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: of prior movies and I'm I guess maybe it's because 319 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: of my age, but I'm thinking eighties. I'm thinking Brewsters, Millions, 320 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking the Toy I know I have some big 321 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: ones that I'm missing here. What is that one Blue 322 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: Collar the Paul Schrader film that's seventies I believe, with 323 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: Harvey Kaitel and Richard Pryor. Yeah, there's a lot from 324 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: the seventies, but there's not a lot that's popping off 325 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: at the top of my head right now. Also, why 326 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: can't you find Lady Sings the Blues anywhere? What's the 327 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: story with that? I want to watch that movie again, 328 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: the bill It's a Billie Holiday story and you can't 329 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: find it anywhere. If you have the reason, Mickey, let 330 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: me know. Get back in touch on Instagram at Young 331 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Base these writes in the greatest actor in the nineteen 332 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: seventies is John Kezel. He made five movies, all of 333 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: them were great. Yes, we talked about that at Young 334 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: Basti's and I also what we didn't talk about what 335 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: we mentioned John Gazelle is the fact that John Kazelle 336 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: was born I believe in Revere, Massachusetts, and he's buried 337 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: in Maldon. He was a Boston boy. I think he 338 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: hooked up with Pacino in Boston. In the episode that 339 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: we have on al Pacino, al Pacino, this incident that 340 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I talked about where he gets hauled in by police, 341 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: he gets arrested. That happens in Rhode Island while al 342 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: Pacino was on his way to Boston to do some acting, 343 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: to try and pick up an acting gig. And I 344 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: believe that's where he and Kazeale hooked up and became 345 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: fast friends and started to act in off Broadway, not 346 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: off Broadway, just out of New York theater. And then 347 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: I don't know where the relationship went from there, but 348 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: they obviously became friends. Cazel made a bunch of great 349 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: movies and here we are. And even though Kazel made 350 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: those five grade films. He didn't carry those films, so 351 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: it's tough to count Kazel as the greatest actor of 352 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: the seventies at young Bastes. Ah. And honestly, if I'm 353 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: answering this question, I don't know that I have an 354 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: answer al Pacino or Robert de Niro, But I think 355 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm leaning de Niro. No, I don't know, because I 356 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: feel like the stuff with de Niro that really really 357 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: hits hard for me. Not that Mean Streets isn't great, 358 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: not that Godfather Too isn't great, But I think most 359 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: of de Niro's truly great stuff for me happens in 360 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: the eighties. So I think I'm giving the seventies crown 361 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: to al Paccino. Guys, listen, we got more text, more 362 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: voicemails being answered in the exclusive part of this episode, 363 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: which is for our all Access members, which you could 364 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: join for just five dollars a month. Go to Disgrace 365 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: slampod dot com slash membership to sign up. There, you 366 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: know the drill. You get this exclusive portion of the 367 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: after party. 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We talked a 459 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: lot about teenage delinquency in our episode today and of 460 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: course some heavy metal and on the teenage delinquency tip. 461 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: We invite you to dive into our archive to check 462 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: out the story of Take A forty seven, a young, 463 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: aspiring hip hop artist whose life imitated art in one 464 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: of the worst ways possible, as he found himself the 465 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: subject of a nationwide manhunt for murder at the tender 466 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: age of seventeen. Ta K forty seven is episode eight 467 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: of Disgraceland, going back all the way to season one. 468 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: It was originally released on May fifteenth, twenty eighteen, and 469 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: also in this episode, we of course talked about Ozzy Osbourne, 470 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: who was at the center of my own juvenile delinquency 471 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: like I mentioned, and back on April twenty eight, twenty twenty, 472 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: we released our Ozzy Osbourne episode. That's episode number fifty 473 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: six from season five of Disgraced Land. That's in the archives, 474 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: So check that one out now, all right? That brings 475 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: us nearly two and end, folks. So let's recap, shall we? 476 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: Number one right now in your feed, A brand new 477 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: episode on al Pacino, number two coming tomorrow, a special 478 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: rewind episode from our archive, and we are talking Metallica 479 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: next week and the loss of founding member Cliff Burton. 480 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: And I want to know which living artist or musician 481 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: inspires you, guys so much, speaks to you so directly 482 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: that you cannot bear to lose him or her. Who 483 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: is it and why? What do your favorite living artists 484 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: mean to you? How do they help you, how do 485 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: they inspire you? Why can't you live without them? And 486 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: who are they? Let me know? Hit me up number three, 487 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: hit me up six one seven nine oh six six 488 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: six three eight, you gotta tell me, call me on 489 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: the telephone, send me a text, or hit me up 490 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: at disgrace. Lampod on the Socials merch winners, get in touch. 491 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: You know who you are. Number five, I skipped a 492 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: bunch of numbers here. I don't care number five. Remember 493 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: no one cares about great storytelling more than you do. 494 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. In honor of 495 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: al Pacino's buddy, the great John Cazell, who died on 496 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: March thirteenth, nineteen seventy eight, I get to you me 497 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: reading you. The Billboard charts from that week. Number one, 498 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: Love is Thicker than Water Andy Gibb last week one, 499 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: peak position one weeks on Chart nineteen. Number two night 500 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Fever Begs last week five, peak position two weeks on 501 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: chart six. Number three Times when We Touched Dan Hills. 502 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: Last week number three, peak positions one, three weeks on 503 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: charpill sixteen. Last week number four, Emotion Samantha Sashion last 504 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: ten number RECIPI position Samantha last last Team too number 505 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: flash position La back down sex on chip clap Te 506 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: last seven of the second K position weeks on number six. 507 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing